My quantum theory is that there's only 1 electron trying really hard, but it has performance anxiety.

@azulBjort_1406

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@IgnasMikalajunas

3 жыл бұрын

You might be joking, but John Wheeler proposed a One-electron universe theory in 1940. So it's not that outlandish :)

@sdfkjgh

3 жыл бұрын

@@IgnasMikalajunas: Even weirder, the one-electron theory proposes that positrons are actually electrons going backwards in time; Feynman threw out everything else about that theory, and went on to mathematically prove this facet to be true.

@Alex2Buzz

3 жыл бұрын

@@sdfkjgh Well, with a one-electron Universe, it has to be able to be in many places at once, so it has to go back in time, thus why positrons (and annihilation is just when the electron flips around). It's intuitive when you think about it that way

@MinorZero

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alex2Buzz It doesn't have to go back in time if you accept it is at all the positions at once, since it has been mathematically proven wormholes are possible, then it also could be the case it is the same electron linked through space time at all positions Thinking it need to time travel to be at multiple positions is too much old way macro world thinking seeping through, so no, it doesn't _have_ to time travel.

who'd a thought what is basically a blob of electrochemically charged fat could be so infuriatingly complex.

@toddchavez8274

3 жыл бұрын

Electric Fat - Album name

@shoebsmk

3 жыл бұрын

The one who designed it, there has to be one, don't you think?

@meowmeowmeow594

3 жыл бұрын

@@shoebsmk No.

@DemonXeron

3 жыл бұрын

​@@shoebsmk Not necessarily. lots of complex things can be incidental or mistakes. Who is to say life is any different? It could be argued it is simply a mechanism to accellerate entropic progress, thus is bound to happen. No creator needed, especially with all the evidence that shows the slow evolution of our species among others on our planet. This is not saying a creator didn't exist to create the universe to observe life forms that evolve however. That is still a possibility, but with no solid evidence of such a being, it would be foolish to base our scientific models, morals and behaviour on such a speculation. Nothing wrong with being a fool however, as long as you don't force your foolishness onto others as facts. We may be incidental, but we can choose our own purpose. Much like creatures in nature carve their own paths, we can do the same. I hope you and anyone who reads this strives to better humanity somehow. Perhaps by serving those who need assistance, providing essential service or bettering our knowledge or culture. Any way we improve, we leave a better more fulfilled planet for those who occupy it in the future.

@OfNoImport

3 жыл бұрын

@@shoebsmk Don't worry Shoeb. As counter-intuitive as it is to say on a science channel, yes, I do.

as an aspiring computational neuroscientist, this has been my favorite episode :)

@merpie1017

3 жыл бұрын

huh, thats a really neat field of study

@entyropy3262

3 жыл бұрын

The classical reality is constructed by the brain, the quantum reality does exist.

@MrUtak

3 жыл бұрын

I’m also trying to get into the field and this episode is one of many reasons why math and psych should be better friends :)

@BenReillySpydr1962

3 жыл бұрын

As an A.I. Developer I completely agree!

@SunnySzetoSz2000

3 жыл бұрын

I thought he is going to talk about Matthew fisher's quantum brain theory........

So, just to be clear: we are talking about _mathematical models_ that _describe_ the results of experiment, not _explanations of why_ stuff happens.

@IvanDmitriev1

3 жыл бұрын

Very fortunately, yes. Otherwise, and specifically in this and only this case, it would have been horrifying.

@MinorZero

3 жыл бұрын

Math in a nutshell. You may not know what it is, but you can work with it anyway as long as you can assign it somewhere. Ever heard of irreel numbers (I'm Dutch, it i what they call it here)? Used in electronics a lot (learned in school for that), shorthand a lowercase "i" after the number. Guess what does the i stand for? Answer: the square root of -1!!! But it is an impossible number! Math doesn't care, you can still do maths with it :)

@lazergurka-smerlin6561

3 жыл бұрын

@@MinorZero I do think you mean irrational numbers if you mean numbers like 3+3i

@MinorZero

3 жыл бұрын

@@lazergurka-smerlin6561 that is the word I was looking for :) - thanks

@refinandor7720

3 жыл бұрын

@@MinorZero Those are called complex numbers and the letter "i" comes from "imaginary". Irrational numbers are real numbers that you can't express as the ratio of two integers.

That is when the science shows its true beauty, when you are able to predict something without a single clue about how it works, lol.

@jeffforsythe9514

2 жыл бұрын

The body is like an aircraft, the brain is the cockpit and the soul is the pilot.

While watching this I didn't really get why it'd be confusing that people's answers would change based on the order of questions. Maybe it's because I teach English so I focus a lot on how language is used to convey meaning, but for me it was a "no duh" in that the first question someone asks is going to be used to frame all subsequent questions. So if you ask about Someone's vacation, then they're thinking about it as a whole, while if you first ask about how they got on with their sister (and they had a fight), then the next question is actively being re-framed in reference to that fight having occurred. Our opening question is a way to focus the rest of the conversation or essay, or list of questions, giving context and a value system to how we should be evaluating the next questions. Whether consciously or unconsciously, we can't help but evaluate things based on the established rubric or framing device posed by the initial statement that set the scene so to speak. Even if all the information is "the same" we're re-contextualizing it. If I asked someone what their favorite color was, and then how they felt about purple, they're going to be comparing how much they like purple with their favorite color. If I asked someone how they feel about the color purple first, their answer may be much more positive, because they aren't being asked about it after talking about their favorite color, so there's no comparison taking place. I'm not sure how much this makes sense to y'all, but language is powerful, and definitely shapes our perceptions of reality by creating contexts and conceptualizing things in relationship to other things.

@driftingdruid

3 жыл бұрын

it makes sense to me, and I agree

@pomtubes1205

3 жыл бұрын

i.e., it's pragmatics at work :)

@xponen

3 жыл бұрын

we can rationalise this behaviour because we are self-aware of us and others, but imagine an AI trying to rationalise our behaviour without understanding of emotion. Then it found out that we follow the Quantum model very closely. So it deduct that we and atoms has brains.

@RosemaryWilliams49fruits

3 жыл бұрын

@@xponen Thinking about it from the perspective of AI trying to understand why "all the information is the same but the results are different" it definitely makes a lot more sense. I got the impression they were talking about it from people analyzing the data, but perhaps I missed something that said otherwise.

@xponen

3 жыл бұрын

@@RosemaryWilliams49fruits I studies Physic, and there's this important event in Quantum Physic during its conception, the debate between Einstein and the pioneers of Quantum Physic. Einstein argued that there must be an underlying mechanism that explain Quantum behaviour (in subatomic particles) and it should be discovered, but others disagree, the Quantum behaviour (of subatomic particles) is the Physic of sub-atomic scales and it is just not like Classical physics, and nothing else is needed to understand it. So that is how I think about this issue. If we were to speculate the underlying mechanism then that'll be very speculative and not science.

My mental health is in superposition: I feel happy, free, confused and lonely at the same time

@honeys.kapoor2838

2 жыл бұрын

The universe is a brain. Because; We are Never separate from the quantum field, most people are just unaware of it. and if you are unaware of it, it doesn't exist for you. --- dr. Joe Dispenza Any information in creation exists in parallel. Because; every being is a spark of the divine. --- Eckhart tolle Space and time ? Space and silence are two aspects of the same thing. The same no-thing. They are externalization of inner space and inner silence, which is stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence. -- Eckhart Tolle Time isn't precious at all, because it is an illusion. -- Eckhart tolle __________________________________________ Nothing + silence + stillness ! = Stillness; the infinitely creative womb of all existence; point of view! you are an image. And; the image is a dead thing. --- Jiddu krishnamurti From the perspective of the image he has a mind, soul and EGO. Otherwise; you are not your mind. --- Eckhart tolle You are not your body. --- Eckhart tolle Nor are you nor your body. --- Buddha You exist as an idea in your mind. --- Suzuki Science deals with matter only and the soul is an atomic particle of consciousness. -- Erwin schrodinger ( Noblest ). I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness. -- Max Planck ( Noblest ) All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force -- Max Planck Force ? = Slavery is a state controlled by the upper force. Excessive pressure of slavery creates a force that destroys this slavery. Common force! = Any desire of the universe produces a force according to its own needs. Thinking and Imagination is a process that no rules apply to, and it is a state of consciousness of an endless singularity. Thinking is a process of changing (as needed ) thinking of another thought. Imagination means creating images. -- Jiddu Krishnamurti Because; the thought ( you are ) is not thinker. -- Eckhart tolle And; there can be no thinker without thought. -- Jiddu Krushnamurti The total number of minds in the universe is one; in fact, consciousness is a singularity phasing within all beings. -- Erwin schrodinger ( Noblest ) _________________________________________The mind is always quiet. the mind becomes perfectly still - not enforced, not controlled, not hypnotised. And it must be still because it is only in stillness that a totally new, unrecognisable thing can take place. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti the stillness of a mind that has struggled with thought, controlled thought, suppressed thought. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti time and order exist chronologically-the bus, the train. time is a gradual process, a continuation of yesterday through today to tomorrow-a duration. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti Without consciousness we cannot talk to ourselves. Between two Thoughts pure consciousness. -- Eckhart tolle Present moment is possible only through consciousness. The moment you realize you are not present, you are present. --- Eckhart tolle Otherwise when you are conscious of a subject then one image is conscious of another image. Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience. --- Jiddu krishnamurti Your life is a mirror image of your mind, your consciousness, and who you really are. -- dr. Joe Dispenza

To apply occam's razor: A feeling that something is uncertain or unknown generates a reluctance to perform positive actions. Likewise, being provided addition information (including outcomes) tricks the brain into feelings of relevance, power, and control, as evidenced in video game huds.

@stvia

3 жыл бұрын

Or more simple not knowing why you're doing something makes it harder to motivate you to do it. If you're friend rats you out you can justify ratting him out with that, if you're friend doesn't rat you out, you're free to think of yourself and do the necessary moral justification to rat him out. If however you don't know you can't do that moral justification aswell because you don't wanna justify him ratting you out. So all you can do is hope he doesn't rat you out and if you don't have reason to assume he did that forces you to not rat him out

@SahilP2648

3 жыл бұрын

That's our survival instinct basically at play. The more close you are to survival, the more you think about how to efficiently manage your resources. Give some person a boatload of resources to waste and they may do some expriments to get better future outcomes or waste all of it thinking they are 'secure' because of their abundance of resources. That's why the value of money increases when you have less money and decreases when you have a lot. That would be the primary reason of inflation overall.

@jeffforsythe9514

2 жыл бұрын

The body is like an aircraft, the brain is the cockpit and the soul is the pilot.

@jeffforsythe9514

2 жыл бұрын

The brain just controls the body, it is the soul that gives it orders.

As a Terry Pratchett character stated: "And then there’s quantum, of course... There’s always bloody quantum."

@ketchup016

3 жыл бұрын

And as Ant-man Scott Lang asked, "Do you guys just put the word quantum in front of everything?"

@MinorZero

3 жыл бұрын

@@ketchup016 Where getting there :)

@honeys.kapoor2838

2 жыл бұрын

The universe is a brain. Because; We are Never separate from the quantum field, most people are just unaware of it. and if you are unaware of it, it doesn't exist for you. --- dr. Joe Dispenza Any information in creation exists in parallel. Because; every being is a spark of the divine. --- Eckhart tolle Space and time ? Space and silence are two aspects of the same thing. The same no-thing. They are externalization of inner space and inner silence, which is stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence. -- Eckhart Tolle Time isn't precious at all, because it is an illusion. -- Eckhart tolle __________________________________________ Nothing + silence + stillness ! = Stillness; the infinitely creative womb of all existence; point of view! you are an image. And; the image is a dead thing. --- Jiddu krishnamurti From the perspective of the image he has a mind, soul and EGO. Otherwise; you are not your mind. --- Eckhart tolle You are not your body. --- Eckhart tolle Nor are you nor your body. --- Buddha You exist as an idea in your mind. --- Suzuki Science deals with matter only and the soul is an atomic particle of consciousness. -- Erwin schrodinger ( Noblest ). I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness. -- Max Planck ( Noblest ) All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force -- Max Planck Force ? = Slavery is a state controlled by the upper force. Excessive pressure of slavery creates a force that destroys this slavery. Common force! = Any desire of the universe produces a force according to its own needs. Thinking and Imagination is a process that no rules apply to, and it is a state of consciousness of an endless singularity. Thinking is a process of changing (as needed ) thinking of another thought. Imagination means creating images. -- Jiddu Krishnamurti Because; the thought ( you are ) is not thinker. -- Eckhart tolle And; there can be no thinker without thought. -- Jiddu Krushnamurti The total number of minds in the universe is one; in fact, consciousness is a singularity phasing within all beings. -- Erwin schrodinger ( Noblest ) _________________________________________The mind is always quiet. the mind becomes perfectly still - not enforced, not controlled, not hypnotised. And it must be still because it is only in stillness that a totally new, unrecognisable thing can take place. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti the stillness of a mind that has struggled with thought, controlled thought, suppressed thought. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti time and order exist chronologically-the bus, the train. time is a gradual process, a continuation of yesterday through today to tomorrow-a duration. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti Without consciousness we cannot talk to ourselves. Between two Thoughts pure consciousness. -- Eckhart tolle Present moment is possible only through consciousness. The moment you realize you are not present, you are present. --- Eckhart tolle Otherwise when you are conscious of a subject then one image is conscious of another image. Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience. --- Jiddu krishnamurti Your life is a mirror image of your mind, your consciousness, and who you really are. -- dr. Joe Dispenza

@jeffforsythe9514

2 жыл бұрын

The body is like an aircraft, the brain is the cockpit and the soul is the pilot.

And suddenly, mathematically inclined psychologists are looking to be an attractive hire for companies looking to predict people's interests in advertising. Gotta get that sweet sweet ad. money.

@jacob9673

3 жыл бұрын

I’d say neuroscientists and mathematically literate marketers are, but the vast majority of people going into psychology aren’t mathematically inclined. Sadly, many undergrad psych curricula are watered down.

@SahilP2648

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacob9673 psychology is very overrated anyways. Not one psychologist can influence the thinking of another person, negatively or positively. There's just some studies of cause, effect and inference but that's about it.

@ClintEPereira

3 жыл бұрын

@@SahilP2648 maybe I'm misreading but did you suggest psychology is useless because it hasn't produced mind control?

@SahilP2648

3 жыл бұрын

@@ClintEPereira let me put it this way, psychology is useless cause its useless

@Andrea-fd2bw

2 жыл бұрын

@@SahilP2648 psychology saves lives and tries to make life worth living,that is all that matters,any other subject that doesn't do that it's useless

The image at 4:57 is wrong. It should be two dark bands that get lighter as you move away from their two centers. Basically, the odds of hitting a spot is a bell curve around the straight line directly through the slit.

This is absolutely correct. Especially when you take into account Nische's "Stare long enough into the abyss and it will stare into you". This is why elderly professors of quantum mechanics know what they are doing or where they are but never both at the same time.

Why am I interpreting this as "quantum computing is going to make it easier for robots to impersonate us"?

@chaizea9429

3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I was thinking! Not sure if it would be super cool or super creepy...

@bigprojects2560

3 жыл бұрын

@@chaizea9429 the first step to sentient ai

@oscia3741

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't trust quite a few very powerful people with this knowledge. Seem incredibly apt for abuse.

@leomadero562

3 жыл бұрын

Because you have a fundamental lack of understanding of both this science and how governments and large companies work

It's logical if you remember snitches get stitches

@seinfan9

3 жыл бұрын

Damn stool pigeons.

@honeys.kapoor2838

2 жыл бұрын

The universe is a brain. Because; We are Never separate from the quantum field, most people are just unaware of it. and if you are unaware of it, it doesn't exist for you. --- dr. Joe Dispenza Any information in creation exists in parallel. Because; every being is a spark of the divine. --- Eckhart tolle Space and time ? Space and silence are two aspects of the same thing. The same no-thing. They are externalization of inner space and inner silence, which is stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence. -- Eckhart Tolle Time isn't precious at all, because it is an illusion. -- Eckhart tolle __________________________________________ Nothing + silence + stillness ! = Stillness; the infinitely creative womb of all existence; point of view! you are an image. And; the image is a dead thing. --- Jiddu krishnamurti From the perspective of the image he has a mind, soul and EGO. Otherwise; you are not your mind. --- Eckhart tolle You are not your body. --- Eckhart tolle Nor are you nor your body. --- Buddha You exist as an idea in your mind. --- Suzuki Science deals with matter only and the soul is an atomic particle of consciousness. -- Erwin schrodinger ( Noblest ). I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness. -- Max Planck ( Noblest ) All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force -- Max Planck Force ? = Slavery is a state controlled by the upper force. Excessive pressure of slavery creates a force that destroys this slavery. Common force! = Any desire of the universe produces a force according to its own needs. Thinking and Imagination is a process that no rules apply to, and it is a state of consciousness of an endless singularity. Thinking is a process of changing (as needed ) thinking of another thought. Imagination means creating images. -- Jiddu Krishnamurti Because; the thought ( you are ) is not thinker. -- Eckhart tolle And; there can be no thinker without thought. -- Jiddu Krushnamurti The total number of minds in the universe is one; in fact, consciousness is a singularity phasing within all beings. -- Erwin schrodinger ( Noblest ) _________________________________________The mind is always quiet. the mind becomes perfectly still - not enforced, not controlled, not hypnotised. And it must be still because it is only in stillness that a totally new, unrecognisable thing can take place. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti the stillness of a mind that has struggled with thought, controlled thought, suppressed thought. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti time and order exist chronologically-the bus, the train. time is a gradual process, a continuation of yesterday through today to tomorrow-a duration. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti Without consciousness we cannot talk to ourselves. Between two Thoughts pure consciousness. -- Eckhart tolle Present moment is possible only through consciousness. The moment you realize you are not present, you are present. --- Eckhart tolle Otherwise when you are conscious of a subject then one image is conscious of another image. Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience. --- Jiddu krishnamurti Your life is a mirror image of your mind, your consciousness, and who you really are. -- dr. Joe Dispenza

Just a little correction concerning the double-slit experiment: When a single electron traverses a double slit, it is not quite correct to say there would be some ambiguity through which slit it passes. That expression implies that it actually does pass through one specific slit, but we do not know which. The weird thing is, that the electron just has no defined point in space at a specific time as long as you don't measure it and there is no ambiguity in that. The ambiguity only is part of measuring the place where the electron is, but that does not mean that there was any ambiguity of where the electron was before measuring, because the electron simply did not have a location before, cause location is not a defining property of the state of the electron.

@raspberrytaegi

3 жыл бұрын

i guess that was a little too hard for them to explain lmao

@little_forest

3 жыл бұрын

@@raspberrytaegi They did not need to explain it, but only then mention ambiguity, when it is about measuring its location and not mention it for where an electron is.

@fmleverynameistakenx

3 жыл бұрын

thanks, their explanation confused me a bit. still don't get how the electrone knows we measured it though...

@little_forest

3 жыл бұрын

@@fmleverynameistakenx Well, the electron wave function, sort of, is the electron. So if part of the electron wave function passes the measurement equipment, it "knows" it is being measured. It is just an interaction between those two. The unsolved riddle is, why the electron wave function does what it does when being measured. That is, why the electron wave function gets retracted to a defined space and why the probability of which space this is, is defined by the absolute value of the wave function at this space. And since quantum mechanics cannot answer that, it is incomplete. However, I guess this is a good point to emphasize that quantum cognition only uses to a degree the same math as quantum mechanics. That does not mean this math has the same reason or explanation, or can be interpreted in the same way in quantum cognition as in quantum mechanics.

@fmleverynameistakenx

3 жыл бұрын

@@little_forest thanks for taking the time to answer! Got it, so it's not necessarily act specifically the act of measuring, but the interaction with the measerment device, did i get that right? The electron wave doesn't "know" it's being measured, there is just some form of interaction with the device, the measurement itself just being a secondary effect. Because that's also how i always instinctively thought of the experinent, but since it is always framed in this metaphysical way, i get confused.

i disagree that the best solution to the prisoner's dilemma is to snitch. this is only the best move if you want to "beat" the other player. if you think as a team, you must stay silent.

@photonicpizza1466

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, it _is_ a problem in game theory, where the standard objective is to get the best outcome for yourself. The standard formulation of the prisoner dilemma works that way as well, and that's what the video is referencing. There are other formulations, but those aren't nearly as famous. This isn't about real life situations where interpersonal relationships and morals are a thing, mind you, it's simply a mathematical simplification.

@mystic_tacos

3 жыл бұрын

How much do you trust your partner? Is your partner cool under pressure? Did you and your partner ever discuss/practice this scenario? In the end you must try and think as your partner before deciding to "snitch" or stay iron lipped.

@watcherfox9698

3 жыл бұрын

@@photonicpizza1466 Even in pure game theory, the answer changes if the situation is continually repeated. That is, it's generally best to co-operate when you have to account for future rounds with the same individual. If you rat them out, they'll likely rat you out on future rounds, which is much worse for you. So to relate it to real life, it only makes sense to "always rat them out" if you expect to never have any future repercussions from it. And since humans are complex social creatures... future repercussions are quite likely.

@photonicpizza1466

3 жыл бұрын

@@watcherfox9698 The answer changes when the question changes, yes. A separate game theory problem has a separate solution. That's kind of a null point. Also, no, not really, it still makes sense to always rat them out unless the repercussions outweigh the gains, which they don't have to. It can easily be a net positive result for you, even if there's negatives, depending on how much you value your freedom. If you're in the exact same scenario again, sure, teamwork is better. But that rarely happens, especially since the scenario kind of demands cooperation in a crime, and that's unlikely to happen again when you've betrayed your compatriot in the first instance of the game. You can't just ignore that side of human complexity when you introduce the whole into the equation. Betraying them once and never repeating the game is total freedom; repeatedly not betraying them is 1 year of prison again and again. One of those sounds far better. And them not betraying you is far from a given even with a prior discussion, the likelihood decreasing with each progressive instance of the game; people generally get tired of prison. Humans are complex social creatures... you can't ever trust them 100%. Especially since humans have a tendency to be a little selfish, severing even previously important bonds once the negatives get a little too hard to bear (which prison generally is). Ratting them out is better.

Better than studying it with a regular mechanic, I guess. Getting your amygdala rotated every 3000 miles gets pricey.

@thekingoffailure9967

3 жыл бұрын

Took me a couple of times to get the joke but it was worth it haha

@oyecomova5478

3 жыл бұрын

Mine gets worn down so quick I might just ride it out

@honeys.kapoor2838

2 жыл бұрын

The universe is a brain. Because; We are Never separate from the quantum field, most people are just unaware of it. and if you are unaware of it, it doesn't exist for you. --- dr. Joe Dispenza Any information in creation exists in parallel. Because; every being is a spark of the divine. --- Eckhart tolle Space and time ? Space and silence are two aspects of the same thing. The same no-thing. They are externalization of inner space and inner silence, which is stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence. -- Eckhart Tolle Time isn't precious at all, because it is an illusion. -- Eckhart tolle __________________________________________ Nothing + silence + stillness ! = Stillness; the infinitely creative womb of all existence; point of view! you are an image. And; the image is a dead thing. --- Jiddu krishnamurti From the perspective of the image he has a mind, soul and EGO. Otherwise; you are not your mind. --- Eckhart tolle You are not your body. --- Eckhart tolle Nor are you nor your body. --- Buddha You exist as an idea in your mind. --- Suzuki Science deals with matter only and the soul is an atomic particle of consciousness. -- Erwin schrodinger ( Noblest ). I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness. -- Max Planck ( Noblest ) All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force -- Max Planck Force ? = Slavery is a state controlled by the upper force. Excessive pressure of slavery creates a force that destroys this slavery. Common force! = Any desire of the universe produces a force according to its own needs. Thinking and Imagination is a process that no rules apply to, and it is a state of consciousness of an endless singularity. Thinking is a process of changing (as needed ) thinking of another thought. Imagination means creating images. -- Jiddu Krishnamurti Because; the thought ( you are ) is not thinker. -- Eckhart tolle And; there can be no thinker without thought. -- Jiddu Krushnamurti The total number of minds in the universe is one; in fact, consciousness is a singularity phasing within all beings. -- Erwin schrodinger ( Noblest ) _________________________________________The mind is always quiet. the mind becomes perfectly still - not enforced, not controlled, not hypnotised. And it must be still because it is only in stillness that a totally new, unrecognisable thing can take place. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti the stillness of a mind that has struggled with thought, controlled thought, suppressed thought. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti time and order exist chronologically-the bus, the train. time is a gradual process, a continuation of yesterday through today to tomorrow-a duration. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti Without consciousness we cannot talk to ourselves. Between two Thoughts pure consciousness. -- Eckhart tolle Present moment is possible only through consciousness. The moment you realize you are not present, you are present. --- Eckhart tolle Otherwise when you are conscious of a subject then one image is conscious of another image. Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience. --- Jiddu krishnamurti Your life is a mirror image of your mind, your consciousness, and who you really are. -- dr. Joe Dispenza

This was a super duper interesting video. One of the best episodes yet across all the Scishow channels! So much information about psychology and quantum models (both incredibly complex to the layperson) crammed into 11 minutes.

If someone is in a bad mood, and expressing negative emotions, then you ask them about their vacation, if they respond emotionally, they’re simply going to respond based on how they feel. Which is a bad mood. Even if they may say “oh it was alright” it doesn’t change what they know. They still know they might’ve had a good vacation, they’re just not expressing their emotions that way, firstly because it’s awkward. And 2ndly I think the reason why it’s awkward is because it takes energy for us to change our mood, and we tend not to. If you were to ask me about my sister and then vacation or the other way around, it wouldn’t matter if I stopped thinking about the first question completely, to answer the 2nd.

@jeffforsythe9514

2 жыл бұрын

With a great teacher we can learn how to correct our thoughts and to rid ourselves of emotion and then compassion takes the place of emotion................falun dafa

This very interesting the second double slit animation depicts the wrong thing you would see as expected two bars.

@benjaminscott8511

3 жыл бұрын

It actually depends on how the electrons are being measured; for example if there's a lazer being shot across the opening and a detector to the right that's measuring how long it takes photons to hit the detector(a common way of measuring) even with a lazer that's built to be a steady stream of light, on the scale of electrons it's closer to a random cloud of photons hitting the electron at random angles, thus sending the electron away at random angles.This interaction is called compton scattering, and if that's considered then the animation is correct.

@rath60

3 жыл бұрын

Biscuit Stirving can you pass that by me again

@wzdew

3 жыл бұрын

@@rath60 They're still waves. They're not controlling which slit they're going through, but rather observing which slit any given particle is passing through. There's still scattering in either scenario, but when being observed directly, the particles no longer interfere with each other and so have a more even distribution.

@benjaminscott8511

3 жыл бұрын

@@rath60 Basically, the 2nd animation is correct if the electrons are being "observed" the way that most physicists know how to "observe" them.

@rath60

3 жыл бұрын

@@wzdew I understand you would expect scattering but that scattering should look like bimodal distribution about the the center of the slits. After all the particle emitter needs to be far enough away from the slits so that the field is for all intents and purposes normal to both slits. The detector then causes decoherence of the particles and allows the particles to take there original path. Effectively normal to the slit forwards as the slits are as far as the particle are concerned infinite in width. The electrons would only skater when interacting with the edge of the slit a statistically improbable event. As for the detector a simple magnetic field tester, gauss meter, would work for an electron as it is moving charge and has an intrinsic magnetic moment. The eddy current of the detector could change the path of the electron but a good experiment should work to minimize this interaction. Once again reducing the probability of land far from the center.

I feel like using the tools of quantum physics to understand the mind is something we've ignored for way too long in our current scientific paradigm.

@arnbrandy

3 жыл бұрын

I concur. When I understood a bit of the math behind quantum physics I immediately thought it REALLY looked like how people make decisions. I'm glad to see people trying to reuse the math here. Maybe some people got wary to call anything else "quantum" (for good reason!) but refusing to use the models is like declining to use, let us say, Calculus to anything other than calculating velocities and areas.

@mfaizsyahmi

3 жыл бұрын

psychology is consistently several decades behind other scientific disciplines after all...

@JonahPleatherbooth

3 жыл бұрын

If yall would take mystics seriously weve been suggesting this sort of thing for decades.

@coliimusic

3 жыл бұрын

@@JonahPleatherbooth Exactly! We're treading over old knowledge as if this a completely novel way of approaching the mystery of consciousness

@lVlearchen

3 жыл бұрын

Yea man you should look into the quantum consciousess theory by Penrose and Hameroff

pretty amazing episode!! one of your best in a while. absolutely love it

How could you detect which slit a single photon goes through without physically impacting it? Isn’t the actual act of measuring it causing it to react in some way?

I am a physicist and I will explain why our scientific knowledge refutes the idea that consciousness is generated by the brain and that the origin of our mental experiences is physical/biological (in my youtube channel you can find a video with more detailed explanations). My arguments prove the existence in us of an indivisible unphysical element, which is usually called soul or spirit. Physicalism/naturalism is based on the belief that consciousness is an emergent property of the brain, but I will discuss two arguments that prove that this hypothesis implies logical contradictions and is disproved by our scientific knowledge of the microscopic physical processes that take place in the brain. (With the word consciousness I do not refer to self-awareness, but to the property of being conscious= having a mental experiences such as sensations, emotions, thoughts, memories and even dreams). 1) All the alleged emergent properties are just simplified and approximate descriptions or subjective/arbitrary classifications of underlying physical processes or properties, which are described DIRECTLY by the fundamental laws of physics alone, without involving any emergent properties (arbitrariness/subjectivity is involved when more than one option is possible; in this case, more than one possible description). An approximate description is only an abstract idea, and no actual entity exists per se corresponding to that approximate description, simply because an actual entity is exactly what it is and not an approximation of itself. What physically exists are the underlying physical processes and not the emergent properties (=subjective classifications or approximate descriptions). This means that emergent properties do not refer to reality itself but to an arbitrary abstract concept (the approximate conceptual model of reality). Since consciousness is the precondition for the existence of concepts, approximations and arbitrariness/subjectivity, consciousness is a precondition for the existence of emergent properties. Therefore, consciousness cannot itself be an emergent property. The logical fallacy of materialists is that they try to explain the existence of consciousness by comparing consciousness to a concept that, if consciousness existed, a conscious mind could use to describe approximately a set of physical elements. Obviously this is a circular reasoning, since the existence of consciousness is implicitly assumed in an attempt to explain its existence. 2) An emergent property is defined as a property that is possessed by a set of elements that its individual components do not possess. The point is that every set of elements is inherently an arbitrary abstract idea which implies the arbitrary choice of determining which elements are to be included in the set; what exists objectively are only the single elements. In fact, when we define a set, it is like drawing an imaginary line that separates some elements from all the other elements; obviously this imaginary line does not exist physically, independently of our mind, and therefore any set is not a physical entity but just an abstract idea and so are all its properties. Any property attributed to the set as a whole is inherently an abstract idea that refers to another abstract idea (the set) and not to a physical entity. So any emergent property is by its very nature an arbitrary abstraction that refers to another arbitrary abstraction (the set). Since consciousness is a precondition for the existence of subjectivity/arbitrariness and abstractions, consciousness is the precondition for the existence of any emergent property, and cannot itself be an emergent property. Both arguments 1 and 2 are sufficient to prove that every emergent property requires a consciousness from which to be conceived. Therefore, that conceiving consciousness cannot be the emergent property itself. Conclusion: consciousness cannot be an emergent property; this is true for any property attributed to the neuron, the brain and any other system that can be broken down into smaller elements. On a fundamental material level, there is no brain, or heart, or any higher level groups or sets, but just fundamental particles interacting. Emergence itself is just a category imposed by a mind and used to establish arbitrary classifications, so the mind can't itself be explained as an emergent phenomenon. Obviously we must distinguish the concept of "something" from the "something" to which the concept refers. For example, the concept of consciousness is not the actual consciousness; the actual consciousness exists independently of the concept of consciousness since the actual consciousness is the precondition for the existence of the concept of consciousness itself. However, not all concepts refer to an actual entity and the question is whether a concept refers to an actual entity that can exist independently of consciousness or not. If a concept refers to "something" whose existence presupposes the existence of arbitrariness/subjectivity or is a property of an abstract object, such "something" is by its very nature abstract and cannot exist independently of a conscious mind, but it can only exist as an idea in a conscious mind. For example, consider the property of "beauty": beauty has an intrinsically subjective and conceptual nature and implies arbitrariness; therefore, beauty cannot exist independently of a conscious mind. My arguments prove that emergent properties, as well as complexity, are of the same nature as beauty; they refer to something that is intrinsically subjective, abstract and arbitrary, which is sufficient to prove that consciousness cannot be an emergent property because consciousness is the precondition for the existence of any emergent property. The "brain" doesn't objectively and physically exist as a single entity and the entity “brain” is only a conceptual model. We create the concept of the brain by arbitrarily "separating" it from everything else and by arbitrarily considering a bunch of quantum particles altogether as a whole; this separation is not done on the basis of the laws of physics, but using addictional arbitrary criteria, independent of the laws of physics. The property of being a brain, just like for example the property of being beautiiful, is just something you arbitrarily add in your mind to a bunch of quantum particles. Any set of elements is an arbitrary abstraction therefore any property attributed to the brain is an abstract idea that refers to another arbitrary abstract idea (the concept of brain). Furthermore, brain processes consist of many parallel sequences of ordinary elementary physical processes. There is no direct connection between the separate points in the brain and such connections are just a conceptual model used to approximately describe sequences of many distinct physical processes; interpreting these sequences as a unitary process or connection is an arbitrary act and such connections exist only in our imagination and not in physical reality. Indeed, considering consciousness as a property of an entire sequence of elementary processes implies the arbitrary definition of the entire sequence; the entire sequence as a whole is an arbitrary abstract idea , and not to an actual physical entity. For consciousness to be physical, first of all the brain as a whole (and brain processes as a whole) would have to physically exist, which means the laws of physics themselves would have to imply that the brain exists as a unitary entity and brain processes occur as a unitary process. However, this is false because according to the laws of physics, the brain is not a unitary entity but only an arbitrarily (and approximately) defined set of quantum particles involved in billions of parallel sequences of elementary physical processes occurring at separate points. This is sufficient to prove that consciousness is not physical since it is not reducible to the laws of physics, whereas brain processes are. According to the laws of physics, brain processes do not even have the prerequisites to be a possible cause of consciousness. As discussed above, an emergent property is a concept that refers to an arbitrary abstract idea (the set) and not to an actual entity; this rule out the possibility that the emergent property can exist independently of consciousness. Conversely, if a concept refers to “something” whose existence does not imply the existence of arbitrariness or abstract ideas, then such “something” might exist independently of consciousness. An example of such a concept is the concept of “indivisible entity”. Contrary to emergent properties, the concept of indivisible entity refers to something that might exist independently of the concept itself and independently of our consciousness. My arguments prove that the hypothesis that consciousness is an emergent property implies a logical fallacy and an hypothesis that contains a logical contradiction is certainly wrong. Consciousness cannot be an emergent property whatsoever because any set of elements is a subjective abstraction; since only indivisible elements may exist objectively and independently of consciousness, consciousness can exist only as a property of an indivisible element. Furthermore, this indivisible entity must interact globally with brain processes because we know that there is a correlation between brain processes and consciousness. This indivisible entity is not physical, since according to the laws of physics, there is no physical entity with such properties; therefore this indivisible entity corresponds to what is traditionally called soul or spirit. The soul is the missing element that interprets globally the distinct elementary physical processes occurring at separate points in the brain as a unified mental experience. Marco Biagini

@dcoded5217

Жыл бұрын

That was excellent sir...thank you for the edification.

the order of a question can be explained as perception bias/filter. i.e. go back a couple of year and randomly ask people how they think the human species will be in 1000 yrs. I bet it will be brighter future than if you ask the same people today. perception changes things.

whoa, my two favourite science fields, sociology and quantum mechanics, how cool

@auri1075

3 жыл бұрын

I learned to hate sociology. My teacher was so horrible, from not doing her job to getting angry at me for not listening to her life stories and giving me 7's all the year. I wasnt alone in the feeling that year....

@xxphoenixx8398

3 жыл бұрын

@@auri1075 That's so sad:( Sociology is something really pleasing to learn about when the teacher is good! Hope you give it another chance

@taritangeo4948

3 жыл бұрын

Im sick of sociology bc im sick of people.

Thank you for make it easy to understand for people like me who don’t know the first thing about quantom etc but still really interested in the subject.

In your example of the two questions: How was your vacation? Did you get along with you sister? The order in which these questions were asked affected the outcome of the vacation answer. As human beings we are emotional creatures, and our current emotional state can and does affect how we respond. So in the first example, you ask what is presumably a generally positive question and you get a positive response. But when you invert the questions you subject then has their emotional state changed by the sibling question prior to asking the control/vacation question. Therefore, even though the questions are identical, and we are dealing with the same subject, there is a difference in emotional states when the vacation question is posed. The variance is therefore unsurprising.

4:55 - That animation is wrong, it doesn't just splatter the whole wall, it creates two slits. Somebody tell Juboroff he messed up (and tell Hank and Aimee to source their animations more carefully).

@Sam_on_YouTube

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, I just posted that. You beat me to it.

So, Dirac notation cognition? As someone with a Physics degree who understand nothing about Quantum Mechanics, Psychologists dipping into Quantum Mechanic mathematical tools is awesome, all for it. Psychologists calling their use on decisions "Quantum Cognition " reallllly irks me. Quantum has a specific definition, so by combining the two it's saying that Cognition has some discrete unit of energy when it comes to decisions and that's meaningless. That being said, unless you're referring to cogniton on specific decisions having a specific unit of energy like joules that's proportional to the difficulty of the task, in my uneducated opinion, that sounds closer to quantum chemistry or microbiology than the extremely large world, by comparison, of cogniton. Furthermore it's clear than quantizing energy for one brain would assume that all brains would use the same quanta; with the diversity of energy usage in the population based on different tasks the theory breaks down when you look from one person to the next. Though like anything I say ever, I could absolutely be wrong. Regardless, there really needs to be a term that is refering to Quantum Theory and its interpretations that isn't "Quantum" ; the countless number of people with physics degrees are getting irked like crazy, and I know I speak for everyone in the comments when I say, this is of dire importance.

@stevenfenster1798

2 жыл бұрын

Applying the concepts in a way that does not follow along your particular discipline does not invalid that application.

@churro6160

2 жыл бұрын

As someone actively working on a psych degree I see what you are saying. The same can be applied to how we label things and those labels being misused in popular culture, like "antisocial" for example . For the little that I understand about how the methods of quantum mechanics being applied in human behavior, I agree there can be a better name to it since those principles dont apply exactly the same at this time (maybe it does, never know what the future holds). Until we can find evidence, or create a theory that sees quantum mechanics at play in the brain, we can't really use that term in psychology because like you said bu definition it doesn't make sense. It is interesting how there is evidence in applying quantum mathematical principals in psychology works so well, I wonder what connection t is there. Excited what the future had in store

I usually understand scishow videos, but this one went over my head. I'll have to try it again tomorrow.

@jeffforsythe9514

2 жыл бұрын

The body is like an aircraft, the brain is the cockpit and the soul is the pilot.

@alexbenzie6585

Жыл бұрын

This is a science channel get outta here with that vague nonsense 🤣

This one was really good. Thank you!

Nicely described!

Very interesting and worthwhile video.

Amazing how many fields are suddenly realizing the value of the "Boil it down to the numbers, find a physicist, and say 'Hey, look at this.'" strategy of discovery. Us compsci people have been doing it for decades now lol. And before you ask, physicists take their numbers to mathematicians when they're stuck. Mathematicians just float around in the abstract space of the human understanding of symbolic logic plucking magic out of the ether.

@sdfkjgh

3 жыл бұрын

@Teth47: Trufax. I are related to an mathemagician.

This video is one of the best things you've ever made Hank & friends. It's so good. Thank you!

This is an interesting analogy

@honeys.kapoor2838

2 жыл бұрын

The universe is a brain. Because; We are Never separate from the quantum field, most people are just unaware of it. and if you are unaware of it, it doesn't exist for you. --- dr. Joe Dispenza Any information in creation exists in parallel. Because; every being is a spark of the divine. --- Eckhart tolle Space and time ? Space and silence are two aspects of the same thing. The same no-thing. They are externalization of inner space and inner silence, which is stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence. -- Eckhart Tolle Time isn't precious at all, because it is an illusion. -- Eckhart tolle __________________________________________ Nothing + silence + stillness ! = Stillness; the infinitely creative womb of all existence; point of view! you are an image. And; the image is a dead thing. --- Jiddu krishnamurti From the perspective of the image he has a mind, soul and EGO. Otherwise; you are not your mind. --- Eckhart tolle You are not your body. --- Eckhart tolle Nor are you nor your body. --- Buddha You exist as an idea in your mind. --- Suzuki Science deals with matter only and the soul is an atomic particle of consciousness. -- Erwin schrodinger ( Noblest ). I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness. -- Max Planck ( Noblest ) All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force -- Max Planck Force ? = Slavery is a state controlled by the upper force. Excessive pressure of slavery creates a force that destroys this slavery. Common force! = Any desire of the universe produces a force according to its own needs. Thinking and Imagination is a process that no rules apply to, and it is a state of consciousness of an endless singularity. Thinking is a process of changing (as needed ) thinking of another thought. Imagination means creating images. -- Jiddu Krishnamurti Because; the thought ( you are ) is not thinker. -- Eckhart tolle And; there can be no thinker without thought. -- Jiddu Krushnamurti The total number of minds in the universe is one; in fact, consciousness is a singularity phasing within all beings. -- Erwin schrodinger ( Noblest ) _________________________________________The mind is always quiet. the mind becomes perfectly still - not enforced, not controlled, not hypnotised. And it must be still because it is only in stillness that a totally new, unrecognisable thing can take place. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti the stillness of a mind that has struggled with thought, controlled thought, suppressed thought. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti time and order exist chronologically-the bus, the train. time is a gradual process, a continuation of yesterday through today to tomorrow-a duration. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti Without consciousness we cannot talk to ourselves. Between two Thoughts pure consciousness. -- Eckhart tolle Present moment is possible only through consciousness. The moment you realize you are not present, you are present. --- Eckhart tolle Otherwise when you are conscious of a subject then one image is conscious of another image. Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience. --- Jiddu krishnamurti Your life is a mirror image of your mind, your consciousness, and who you really are. -- dr. Joe Dispenza

wait, the cube flip is supposed to be random? you can just get it to change by relaxing your eyes like a magic eye.

@lh3540

3 жыл бұрын

yeah, this particular illusion can be done by switching between your near/ far field depth perception. It might be a bad example. I'd say if you were looking at it from a near field point, like on a computer screen or book, you'd be more likely to see it opening like a cubby, where as if you were already further away it looks down like a trashcan.

@4saken404

3 жыл бұрын

But for most people it also flips states unintentionally. And the experiment looked at how often that involuntary flip occurs and ties it to neural processes. Learning to control how you perceive it is another matter entirely.

@markbutler4033

3 жыл бұрын

so what does it mean if i dont see it as a 3d object...

@leomadero562

3 жыл бұрын

@@markbutler4033 then you are taking it too literally or making a bad joke

I'm a neuroscience student and this is the coolest thing I've ever heard! Thanks for being so clear and concise; I feel like if I were taught this in school it would take the professor 2 class periods to explain.

@honeys.kapoor2838

2 жыл бұрын

The universe is a brain. Because; We are Never separate from the quantum field, most people are just unaware of it. and if you are unaware of it, it doesn't exist for you. --- dr. Joe Dispenza Any information in creation exists in parallel. Because; every being is a spark of the divine. --- Eckhart tolle Space and time ? Space and silence are two aspects of the same thing. The same no-thing. They are externalization of inner space and inner silence, which is stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence. -- Eckhart Tolle Time isn't precious at all, because it is an illusion. -- Eckhart tolle __________________________________________ Nothing + silence + stillness ! = Stillness; the infinitely creative womb of all existence; point of view! you are an image. And; the image is a dead thing. --- Jiddu krishnamurti From the perspective of the image he has a mind, soul and EGO. Otherwise; you are not your mind. --- Eckhart tolle You are not your body. --- Eckhart tolle Nor are you nor your body. --- Buddha You exist as an idea in your mind. --- Suzuki Science deals with matter only and the soul is an atomic particle of consciousness. -- Erwin schrodinger ( Noblest ). I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness. -- Max Planck ( Noblest ) All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force -- Max Planck Force ? = Slavery is a state controlled by the upper force. Excessive pressure of slavery creates a force that destroys this slavery. Common force! = Any desire of the universe produces a force according to its own needs. Thinking and Imagination is a process that no rules apply to, and it is a state of consciousness of an endless singularity. Thinking is a process of changing (as needed ) thinking of another thought. Imagination means creating images. -- Jiddu Krishnamurti Because; the thought ( you are ) is not thinker. -- Eckhart tolle And; there can be no thinker without thought. -- Jiddu Krushnamurti The total number of minds in the universe is one; in fact, consciousness is a singularity phasing within all beings. -- Erwin schrodinger ( Noblest ) _________________________________________The mind is always quiet. the mind becomes perfectly still - not enforced, not controlled, not hypnotised. And it must be still because it is only in stillness that a totally new, unrecognisable thing can take place. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti the stillness of a mind that has struggled with thought, controlled thought, suppressed thought. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti time and order exist chronologically-the bus, the train. time is a gradual process, a continuation of yesterday through today to tomorrow-a duration. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti Without consciousness we cannot talk to ourselves. Between two Thoughts pure consciousness. -- Eckhart tolle Present moment is possible only through consciousness. The moment you realize you are not present, you are present. --- Eckhart tolle Otherwise when you are conscious of a subject then one image is conscious of another image. Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience. --- Jiddu krishnamurti Your life is a mirror image of your mind, your consciousness, and who you really are. -- dr. Joe Dispenza

I am not a scientist, psychologist nor am I a graduate of any kind. But I have a lot of interests in a lot of things, this episode is now in the running for my favorite SSP episode!!!

Best video in awhile thanks

This is the coolest sci show video bar none.

Fun shirt with the lines at right angles to each side.

Amazing. Just amazing!

The order of questions influencing the outcome makes total sense from a computational pov. While the information is in long term storage, it is currently not being accessed. When you ask a question, you are loading the information into the working memory, where it is processed and incorporated into your current context. Since the current context also feeds back into the processing of every information being loaded into working memory, the order of memory queries is vital to the state of the context

Great video

More of this!

This is literally the basis of all thought. This is HUGE

Here is the thing, it is not knowledge that changes the quantum results, it is the measurement that changes the result. Our methods for measurement contains enough power to vastly affect the quantum particles involved. That probability map of where the electron is at any one time is the result of people trying to measure a faint current of air with a compressed air line at 10 times atmospheric pressure.

the double slit experiment overwhelms the mind

THANK you for addressing THIS particular topic (although I want MUCH MUCH greater scientific detail)

Sounds like the beginnings of the field of Psychohistory to me.

This has so much unintentionally reference to Robert Anton Wilson (Prometheus Rising, Email to the Universe, etc.) and Alfred Korzybski (Science and Sanity, etc.). WOW

I wonder about the cube. It would be interesting to do the same, but with the circles which would appear as a "tube" and compare if the people who saw they cube in one way saw the tube in the same direction.

Oh great, they're gonna misuse the name of this field of study hard

@photonicpizza1466

3 жыл бұрын

They already have long ago, it's often misused to describe quantum consciousness, i.e. a set of hypotheses that consciousness is a phenomenon arising from things like quantum superposition and quantum entanglement. Quantum cognition is nice and fun, quantum consciousness is just ridiculous.

@xyex

3 жыл бұрын

@@photonicpizza1466 I love the idea of the quantum mind. The idea that consciousness is some quantum mechanical process opens up so many possibilities, and provides avenues for scientific explanations for "supernatural" phenomena, like ESP, ghosts, and etc. Practically, it's unlikely. But conceptually, it's amazing. And it makes a great basis for sci-fi stories.

@SrValeriolete

3 жыл бұрын

Why quantum consciousness is ridiculous? It's just a hypothesis, it might well have some truth to it. We know quantum effects play roles in biological systems, for instance in photosynthesis and on detection of smell, why couldn't it play a role in the arising of consciousness? We don't know. What's woo woo is things like the idea that we can change physical reality by just thinking about it or similar things, because it's demonstrably false, but the idea that quantum effects might play a role in consciousness is as good as any other hypothesis at that point, seem how new this whole consciousness studies field is, and there even seems be some evidence in the research conducted by Penrose and Hameroff and others, specially in some Alzheimer research that seems to indicate some sort of information storing inside microtubules that could potentially be restored. If quantum cognition models become really useful this might also lend credibility to the idea that something more than an analogy could be going on. Not necessarily, there are complex completely classical systems that can mimic quantum behavior, but it's still a possibility.

@SrValeriolete

3 жыл бұрын

That reminds me in the past when doctors refused to wash their hands because the idea of washing was so linked with purification religious rituals that to think it could have any role in preventing diseases was considered woo woo. Just because some magical thinking had capitalized and explored the suposed connection between quantum mechanics and consciousness doesn't mean that there couldn't be a connection.

@TheZenytram

3 жыл бұрын

@@SrValeriolete when i read the title of the video i thought it would have been about those crazy ppl who think that by "observing" things they can change stuff. Gladly it isn't.

Actually, I always thought a lot of the mystery of human cognition was to be found in quantum mechanics.

@jeffforsythe9514

2 жыл бұрын

The body is like an aircraft, the brain is the cockpit and the soul is the pilot.

@4:33 If every electron is in orbit with a dark matter particle pulling it into a polarizable axial or helical wave, depending on its orientation relative to its travel, it could explain the double slit even when only one electron is sent at a time.

that necker cube...every time I switch my perception to the other version, it's like I feel a switch in my head for some reason...!!!so weird!!!

Why is it I can see multiple dimensions of this box easily? One where the 'front' is facing forward and down, and the other being opposite, up and to the right. Similarly, I can also see the 'sunken' box, where there are walls a ceiling and floor, in two positions. I can also kinda see both forward facing "boxes" (as opposed to the room with a missing wall type) at the same time.

Quantum cognition is a fancy way to talk about Bayesian approaches to behavior :P

The order change in how a person perceives and information after one information is given before or is not there before is called “emotion”

i wish i could send this to my physics prof bc he lost me when he was all “idk the relevance of my subject to ur program (psych)” as a starter of our first meeting

I might have actually done something like this. Actually helps me at my job

i think i´ve never seen a better depiction of quantum superposition as in this video ... as if someone was flicking a flashlight at all wall really fast and then taking a polaroid photo... genius

Wow this is fascinating. Math and psychology don't usually play well together. I hope it will lead to new insights in psychotherapy.

@photonicpizza1466

3 жыл бұрын

This won't have much bearing on clinical psychology, not directly at least. This is much more of a thing in computational neuroscience than anything, a way to mathematically model the mind, rather than directly explain how it works. This does lead to new insights of course, and those may eventually lead to advancements in psychotherapy and pharmacotherapy, but there really isn't a direct link.

@axion986

3 жыл бұрын

@@photonicpizza1466 Great explanation, I agree. That's kind of what I meant to say but you explained it in much more accurately lol.

Better explanation to the dual slit experiment? (Copy and paste from my files): It is only an idea on my part but it goes something like this: 1. Charged particles have their associated magnetic fields with them. 2. Protons and electrons are charged particles and have their associated magnetic fields with them. 3. Photons also have both an electrical and magnetic components to them. 4. Whenever a proton, electron, or photon is shot out of a gun, it's respective magnetic field interacts with the magnetic fields of the electrons in the atoms and molecules of the gun itself, the medium the projectile is traveling through (ie: air), and/or from around the slits themselves. 5. Via QED (quantum electrodynamics), newly generated photons might occur. 6. The projectile goes on it's own way and the newly generated photons go on their own way. It gives the illusion of a wave particle duality, but it is not that way in actual reality. 7. Specifically in the case of protons or electrons, the newly generated EM wave travels faster than the particles. The new EM waves go through both slits and sets up "hills and valleys" of field energy. When the proton or electron goes through one of the slits, it then follows whatever "valley" it enters thereby over time, even shooting only one proton or one electron at a time, the interference pattern will still emerge. 8. As far as detectors are concerned, they probably have an energy field that is one way when on and a different way when off. The interaction of this energy field (or the lack thereof) with whatever is passing through it, gives the indication that is observed. Now, for those who hold fast to reality being probability waves that are condensed down by an observer into one single physical reality, then: a. What exactly are these probability waves made up of? b. Where exactly are these probability waves stored at until they are observed? c. How exactly does an observer in physical reality actually observe these probability waves and condense them down into one single physical reality? d. Who and/or what observed the first observer? e. What exactly happens when two or more observers observe different probability waves? Which one takes precedent in physical reality? For me, while this observer condensing probability waves down into one single physical reality might work well on paper, it does not appear to reflect actual reality. Now, utilizing the scientific principal of Occam's razor, which way is more probably correct? My way by utilizing known scientific principals, or that is as discerned on paper as stated above is how reality actually is?

05:50 'Prisoner's Dilemma' - Snitching on your "friend" could result in your "friend" making life hell for you / family / pets etc, giving GOOD reason NOT to snitch. Ultimately, context is required.

@MegaFREAK313

2 жыл бұрын

There's also this thing called empathy

Is this a step towards the development of Psycohistory??? ;))

@mammajamma4397

3 жыл бұрын

Oooooooh!!!!

@ViNiMiCoRRizA

3 жыл бұрын

i've came here to say this! you've got first! :D

@xyex

3 жыл бұрын

lol, I just made the same comment. XD

@honeys.kapoor2838

2 жыл бұрын

The universe is a brain. Because; We are Never separate from the quantum field, most people are just unaware of it. and if you are unaware of it, it doesn't exist for you. --- dr. Joe Dispenza Any information in creation exists in parallel. Because; every being is a spark of the divine. --- Eckhart tolle Space and time ? Space and silence are two aspects of the same thing. The same no-thing. They are externalization of inner space and inner silence, which is stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence. -- Eckhart Tolle Time isn't precious at all, because it is an illusion. -- Eckhart tolle __________________________________________ Nothing + silence + stillness ! = Stillness; the infinitely creative womb of all existence; point of view! you are an image. And; the image is a dead thing. --- Jiddu krishnamurti From the perspective of the image he has a mind, soul and EGO. Otherwise; you are not your mind. --- Eckhart tolle You are not your body. --- Eckhart tolle Nor are you nor your body. --- Buddha You exist as an idea in your mind. --- Suzuki Science deals with matter only and the soul is an atomic particle of consciousness. -- Erwin schrodinger ( Noblest ). I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness. -- Max Planck ( Noblest ) All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force -- Max Planck Force ? = Slavery is a state controlled by the upper force. Excessive pressure of slavery creates a force that destroys this slavery. Common force! = Any desire of the universe produces a force according to its own needs. Thinking and Imagination is a process that no rules apply to, and it is a state of consciousness of an endless singularity. Thinking is a process of changing (as needed ) thinking of another thought. Imagination means creating images. -- Jiddu Krishnamurti Because; the thought ( you are ) is not thinker. -- Eckhart tolle And; there can be no thinker without thought. -- Jiddu Krushnamurti The total number of minds in the universe is one; in fact, consciousness is a singularity phasing within all beings. -- Erwin schrodinger ( Noblest ) _________________________________________The mind is always quiet. the mind becomes perfectly still - not enforced, not controlled, not hypnotised. And it must be still because it is only in stillness that a totally new, unrecognisable thing can take place. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti the stillness of a mind that has struggled with thought, controlled thought, suppressed thought. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti time and order exist chronologically-the bus, the train. time is a gradual process, a continuation of yesterday through today to tomorrow-a duration. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti Without consciousness we cannot talk to ourselves. Between two Thoughts pure consciousness. -- Eckhart tolle Present moment is possible only through consciousness. The moment you realize you are not present, you are present. --- Eckhart tolle Otherwise when you are conscious of a subject then one image is conscious of another image. Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience. --- Jiddu krishnamurti Your life is a mirror image of your mind, your consciousness, and who you really are. -- dr. Joe Dispenza

About the Necker cube illusion, I'm able to switch between each perspective at will. How would that fit into the model? As I understand it, the model assumes you're not doing it willingly.

3000 more videos like this, I would instantaneously become a neuroscientist

I mean it doesn't seem illogical. If you were to tell me I won a coin toss, but I didn't see the coin being flipped, nor hit the ground to view the results with my eyes, I wouldn't want to proceed either, because of that primitive instinct that I don't know what's going on and fear that I'm getting tricked. Even if I did gain something. Especially if I know that I might lose something valuable in the long run (money)

@SrValeriolete

3 жыл бұрын

Also, a lot of people don't understand probability and will prefer something certain that to play a game they don't understand the rules.

@SrValeriolete

3 жыл бұрын

I agree that the examples given in that video are horrible.

Im surprised Benford’s law wasn’t mentioned here. Can’t wait to hear more about quantum psychology. I’ve been trying to make connections as soon as I realized they were intertwined; consciousness and the universe.

@jeffforsythe9514

2 жыл бұрын

Your soul is your consciousness, every living thing has one.

I used to hate scishow but I began to genuinely enjoy it overtime.

I would totally agree with the observation that psychology has a "cululative emotional budget" that makes up a person's mood, and it works a lot like trigonometry, in your example, where you have to deal with polynomials, and the order of operations is important. The breakthrough is to see what emotional "order of operations" fits with the different emotional states a person has. Addition is addition and subtraction is subtraction, and how about division? Emotional states are based on the potentials a person has, and it's never binary, it's always floating on a spectrum with an established threshold. Nice work! I'd love to see if the application of "quantization" of emotional events in context can make a predictable result and tell you if the person is an Artificial Intelligence or not. It's literally a scene out of Blade-Runner, with the analysis machine testing the renegade artificial beings. The question becomes "Can you tell if someone is dangerous or not?" The results may not to be to catch the criminal, but to make them think they've been caught.

Moral of the story: Physicists are Great. Mathematicans: Am I a joke?

@nadiyayasmeen3928

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. I was wondering why is Hank praising physicists so much. All the tools (with a slight modification) came from mathematics. Mathematics is clearly superior

@comradeofthebalance3147

3 жыл бұрын

Nadiya Yasmeen Because physicists are mathematicians too.

@nadiyayasmeen3928

3 жыл бұрын

@@GabrielCazorlaPersson1 Let me tell you something. I'm a student of physics so my bias should be the other way round. I don't think physicists developed their own tools very often now do they? Take general relativity for example. The mathematics used in GR existed before Einstein picked up pen and paper for SR itself. Electrodynamics? I've heard people claim vector calculus was *invented* for electrodynamics which isn't quite true. The two main operations that are used in the differential form of Maxwell's equations grad and curl existed before vectors were born. QM you say? I'm terribly sorry. I do not know much about it. Maybe physics has helped mathematics there? Maybe not? Physics and mathematics of were together during Newton's time (maybe a bit after that too) but then mathematics advanced way faster as compared to physics. Maybe it didn't. Maybe I'm biased

@nUrnxvmhTEuU

3 жыл бұрын

​@@nadiyayasmeen3928 Hey, I'm a student of physics too. I think you're too harsh to physicists and present a non-complete picture. Physics has been a driving force behind many mathematical discoveries, and remains to be to this date. Newton & Leibniz invented calculus but it remained largely nonrigorous (thus, from a modern POV, non-mathematical) until Weierstrass invented the limit much later. Fourier invented his trigonometric series to solve the heat equation. While Dirac didn't exactly invent his delta "function", the popularity it gained in QM might have been a big factor in the development of distribution theory by Schwartz. The formulation of QM introduced by Heisenberg and others directly inspired Von Neumann to make big advancements in the theory of self-adjoint operators, the spectral theory and *-algebras. And more recently, the work in string theory is influencing even very remote areas of mathematics, such as the abstract group theory (see Monstrous moonshine). There's a whole field called “mathematical physics” whose entire point is to put physical theories onto more rigorous foundations and develop them into interesting mathematical theories. I understand your frustration with physicists' general lack of rigour, I feel that too, but saying that physicists don't contribute to mathematical discoveries would be unjust.

My new favorite video! Thanks ScishowPsych

The act of measuring changes what is being measured. Heisenberg uncertainty principle (double slit experiment). Same with consciousness.

As a social psychologist who studies uncertainty, this makes me so mad. Uncertainty as a metacognitive state changes people's behavior in predictable and comprehensible ways. We don't need quantum physics analogies to understand that-- we need people who understand the influence of situations, emotions, and metacognition. This feels like people from outside psychology suddenly "discovering" a psychological phenomenon and using imperfect tools at their disposal to try to understand it.

Sounds like we now have the basis for Psychohistory, the predictive model used by Hari Selden in Asimov's Foundation series.

10:22 if you focuse just right the box becomes a 2d diamond shape. Turn it so the two longes points go up and down.

The opening statement sums up 2020 pretty well.

10:57 I was really happy it was this set of words and it's this sentence. "General prediction". We're safe. For now.

@honeys.kapoor2838

2 жыл бұрын

The universe is a brain. Because; We are Never separate from the quantum field, most people are just unaware of it. and if you are unaware of it, it doesn't exist for you. --- dr. Joe Dispenza Any information in creation exists in parallel. Because; every being is a spark of the divine. --- Eckhart tolle Space and time ? Space and silence are two aspects of the same thing. The same no-thing. They are externalization of inner space and inner silence, which is stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence. -- Eckhart Tolle Time isn't precious at all, because it is an illusion. -- Eckhart tolle __________________________________________ Nothing + silence + stillness ! = Stillness; the infinitely creative womb of all existence; point of view! you are an image. And; the image is a dead thing. --- Jiddu krishnamurti From the perspective of the image he has a mind, soul and EGO. Otherwise; you are not your mind. --- Eckhart tolle You are not your body. --- Eckhart tolle Nor are you nor your body. --- Buddha You exist as an idea in your mind. --- Suzuki Science deals with matter only and the soul is an atomic particle of consciousness. -- Erwin schrodinger ( Noblest ). I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness. -- Max Planck ( Noblest ) All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force -- Max Planck Force ? = Slavery is a state controlled by the upper force. Excessive pressure of slavery creates a force that destroys this slavery. Common force! = Any desire of the universe produces a force according to its own needs. Thinking and Imagination is a process that no rules apply to, and it is a state of consciousness of an endless singularity. Thinking is a process of changing (as needed ) thinking of another thought. Imagination means creating images. -- Jiddu Krishnamurti Because; the thought ( you are ) is not thinker. -- Eckhart tolle And; there can be no thinker without thought. -- Jiddu Krushnamurti The total number of minds in the universe is one; in fact, consciousness is a singularity phasing within all beings. -- Erwin schrodinger ( Noblest ) _________________________________________The mind is always quiet. the mind becomes perfectly still - not enforced, not controlled, not hypnotised. And it must be still because it is only in stillness that a totally new, unrecognisable thing can take place. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti the stillness of a mind that has struggled with thought, controlled thought, suppressed thought. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti time and order exist chronologically-the bus, the train. time is a gradual process, a continuation of yesterday through today to tomorrow-a duration. --- Jiddu Krishnamurti Without consciousness we cannot talk to ourselves. Between two Thoughts pure consciousness. -- Eckhart tolle Present moment is possible only through consciousness. The moment you realize you are not present, you are present. --- Eckhart tolle Otherwise when you are conscious of a subject then one image is conscious of another image. Because the observer ( you are ) is total sum of past experience. --- Jiddu krishnamurti Your life is a mirror image of your mind, your consciousness, and who you really are. -- dr. Joe Dispenza

I have no idea why but the horizontal lines on one side of his shirt with vertical lines on the other made me want to re-sew his shirt properly...

If I didn't know whether I had won or lost the coin flip then I would probably do it again because worst case scenario I owe $200 and best case scenario I win $400 and this sounds like a logical enough reason to convince me that it would be worthwhile.

I think you could make an entire episode with all these times seemingly unrelated scientific disciplines connected with an interesting result. It seems to me that it is happening more and more recently.

Quantum mechanics never fail to give my brain a twist.

Man is necker cube weird, at first object appeared normal but as i continued to observe flips got more common, it even flipped upside down for a quick second and that caused me a headache.

i belive you can explain why the order changes the answer of the questions by just undeerstaning the emotinal oriciples of the brain regions and informaiton porcessing dynamics of memory. like when u call out an experince u may feel the sensaiton of stress respose at the time of the fight with your sister. and with the respose in the body ones thinking may be supllemented with negative thoughts. when the amyglada etc gets activated people may or not may be biased to be thinking with the repsose they have in the body. the emotinal ststes of before can influence the now and after . However if they were to anlayze the most objective way i beleive they can aswer with logical explaniton. as extra note: as we know memory can be decoded and encoded and change its sturcture so when having a non logical thoughts it may even change the event in the brain

Uhhhhhh I'm not sure where this is going, but I like it

6:33 I'm sure it helps that one will inevitably be told during interrogation that your partner snitched on you anyways, so is there even any way to be sure one way or another that your partner in crime hadn't?

anyone else perceive the necker cuber, when highlighted to show the different ways it could be seen, as the opposite of what hank was saying?

If you want to go down the right pathway in this study, try observing the human being as a means of expression, and for the life that is expressing itself. That detachment opens a whole new area of examination. The reasoning being that “life” is extant in all that respires. Therefore, does it have the same value in each limitation of expression.

It's like chemistry and dipole moments, so to speak, but with light and electromagnetism. The rotation of the earth affects your "two" halves in a pulse like vibration. But you aren't really two halves. You are spinning counter-clockwise, but your eyes know where the the body's escape velocity is. You, and everything for that matter, is always spinning right along with the earth. I have no formal education on this so I have a hard time explaining it. This is the reason I cannot see anything "Magic Eye" like the poster I had in high school. Never did see it, and cannot to this day. My left leg is 13mm shorter than my right leg. If i go out of focus that far it pulls my left eye out of focus and then the right eye compensates for it. It's either full blur or focus. I've never seen anything, any other way. Food for thought, I guess. 🙃

I was hoping they would cover Orch OR

The examples the video presented just seem to be so easily explained by much simpler considerations: uncertainty makes people not want to decide, for example.

Hello guys, IM here to ask ur opinion and maybe start some small discussion. Recently Ive heard and read about quantum consciousnes by roger Penrose and Stuart hameroff. It said that consciousnes start at quantum level presumably at cellular structure called microtubule. Do you guys think its a good Theory? And would it lead to more research on psychology on micro level

That's not really how the double slit experiment works. It's not the knowledge of the electron(particle) that changes the result of the experiment, it's the measurement that changes the outcome, because to measure the particle, you have to physically interact with it, which changes the environmental state of the particle. It's not the conscious knowledge of the particle's position, but the interaction (which in physics lingo, we call this physical interaction an observation) with the particle that changes the outcome

@shexec32

3 жыл бұрын

The observer-effect is just one of the explanations for what occurs during quantum decoherence. Other interpretations of quantum mechanics do not have to rely on observation to produce decoherence (some don't even require wavefunction-collapse). These theories thus avoid problems like Schrodinger's Cat and the EPR paradox. Hank gave a good explanation of the facts of the double-slit experiment, without bringing up Copenhagen-specific interpretations of quantum mechanics.

@tamarlambert6121

3 жыл бұрын

@@shexec32 yeah, except the "observer" affect is still apart of it. When you measure an "observable" quantity that is incompatible with another "observable" quantity, it does affect future measurements of that "incompatible observable". Again, an "observer" in nature is just anything that interacts with the system of interest

@shexec32

3 жыл бұрын

​@@tamarlambert6121 Great, we're agreed that measurement is the more fundamental mechanism underlying wavefunction collapse/decoherence rather than the presence of an observer (although consistent histories attempts to explain quantum decoherence without having to resort to measurement or observation). Hank did highlight the importance of the detector in affecting the outcome of particle's trajectory. He also notes that post-measurement, the wavefunction of the electron is altered, in agreement with your statement on the incompatibility of the position & momentum operators. We're also agreed that an interaction causes the electron's wavefunction to change. We're just in disagreement about the chain of events that makes that electron's wavefunction lose its entangled/interference pattern. I think Hank was wise to sidestep the question of what happens during interaction, otherwise his comments section would be filled with neverending flamewars about favouring one interpretation over another. For instance, the de Broglie-Bohm approach describes position as being a hidden value property intrinsic to the particle's wavefunction (measurement uncovers that value). In many-worlds & consistent-histories, it *is* the acquisition of the particle's position which causes the previously unknown wavefunction to decohere into a known state. RQM utilises a relativistic argument to explain away the perceived counterintuitive results of the double-slit experiment. And then we have Copenhagen, which is more about wavefunction collapse caused by measurement stemming from the uncertainty principle, rather than an observer being present (although, the observer knocking the particle off-course through measurement is frequently included as well). All very different explanations for wave function collapse. Hank could use the Copenhagen interpretation to explain loss of interference. However, he would have to balance that theory with the arguments from the alternative interpretations. The video would end up being a multi-hour video on the various interpretations of quantum mechanics, with

@tamarlambert6121

3 жыл бұрын

@@shexec32 maybe I misheard, but in this quantum psychology video it sounded like he said the knowledge of the measurement changes the outcome

You've never really forgotten anything, it just takes longer for your brain to put the pieces back together. Give yourself maybe 10 additional seconds and you can remember pretty much anything

@shamrock5725

3 жыл бұрын

There's also false memories people have to worry about. We make up stuff all the time to satisfy the need or desire against not knowing.

@jeffforsythe9514

2 жыл бұрын

The brain does not think, it is the soul.

@geezybop

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffforsythe9514 tf

I like your shirt!

As much as i love the beneficial possibilities this could being im absolutely terrified that this WILL be used for dastardly political ends. If you can predict behavior you can control it by controlling the variables.