almost made it to 1 million subscribers, Anton! Well-deserved, thank you for the hard work, deep coverage, scholarly approach, and scientific objectivity. I learned a lot from you. Stay wonderful!

@jennyanydots2389

2 жыл бұрын

Over 2/3rd's of those subscribers are from russian click farms. Have you heard anton talk? He's clearly not from 'merica. Not only does he get his custom fitted adult sized diapers from china he also orders his fancy boys from the Ukraine. Last I heard he had three fancy boys in the basement. He used to have four but the other one's bee whole became too loose and he was just making too much of a mess with all the juices leaking out.

@chaotix5513

2 жыл бұрын

@@jennyanydots2389 you are speaking nosense with no proof to back up your claims

@dt4676

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder how many people work for him now. He can't be researching, writing scripts and filming alone at the rate he does

@jennyanydots2389

2 жыл бұрын

@@dt4676 He probably orders in a couple new fancy boys a month for his basement project. He doesn't like to use the same boys more than a couple times in a row for his basement video film's. They have to take time off and tighten up their bee wholes every other month, do you know what I am saying dawg?

@Thomas.Wright

2 жыл бұрын

@@chaotix5513 "Jenny" is just an 8-year-old someone left unsupervised at a computer.

Hearing Anton say "some type of sky-panther dropping rocks on the ground" made my year

@MaryAnnNytowl

2 жыл бұрын

I imagined a really vivid meteor shower when he said that, myself! It must have been pretty cool to see!

@eekee6034

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. :) I love the animated wireframe panther too.

@philpaine3068

Жыл бұрын

In my neck of the woods, Sky-Panther often drops rocks on us. You know, it's like a regular thing --- like the Northern Lights, or having lynx mess up your trapline. It's true, I swear to Sky-Panther.

I believe that the Hopewell Culture was a continuation of the Adena (Mounds-builders). These two cultures had extensive trade that stretched from the great lakes to the Gulf Coast and were noted for their cremation mounds and there art work. From what I have read all of this came to a grinding halt around 500 A.D. NO more art work, no more mounds building, no more trading.

I live in n Georgia. About 2 feet deep in my yard, just below the red clay layer, there is an inch thick layer of highly compressed ash. Its wide spread in my neighborhood. This area burned in a very intense way. Id love to know how long ago this happened.

@I.amthatrealJuan

2 жыл бұрын

It can have a variety of causes. Maybe an intense wildfire, or a volcano

@metatechnologist

2 жыл бұрын

Carbon date the ash and get back to us. Georgia has had huge pine forests in the past!

@snickle1980

2 жыл бұрын

@@metatechnologist Time to consult a KZread geologist channel. Someone like Nick Zentner. They likely know about that region, and what lies beneath that ancient land of Georgia. 😐

@tdsdave

2 жыл бұрын

@@metatechnologist Needs to be organic to be carbon dated, though even if non-organic ash , dating on either side should give a result , also not that deep so likely in the range of Carbon Dating(

@brianstevens3858

2 жыл бұрын

Since the last ashfall thick enough to be measurable on a large scale was in the Ordovician, it's most likely from forest fire, or even a coal ash dump from industry.

I grew up next to one of the Hopewell Indian mounds!!! Great video! Something to think about.

@John77Doe

2 жыл бұрын

The last tragic remnants of a once thriving Native American civilization destroyed by the atmospheric disintegration of a comet. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

@jennyanydots2389

2 жыл бұрын

You sound like you have kids. It's probably a mess down there.

@MaryAnnNytowl

2 жыл бұрын

@@John77Doe doubtful. It was much more likely they simply moved on. It could be there was a large drought, or a disease, or any number of other reasons that made the civilization move elsewhere. This isn't a very good study. It's sloppy science, and will likely be pulled from the publication when no one else can replicate their study.

@MaryAnnNytowl

2 жыл бұрын

I'm near some, as well! It certainly sparks the imagination! ❤❤

@jennyanydots2389

2 жыл бұрын

@@MaryAnnNytowl You definitely sound like you have a bunch of kids. It's definitely probably a mess down there. Is it true that after your fifth kid you have to wear custom fitted adult sized diapers because of the leakage?

I live near the Cahokia Mounds and have been studying the Hopewell culture and other since 2015. I have found over 50 lost artifacts and posted many of the videos on this KZread channel of mine. Everyone please remember to be respectful towards past cultures that are have been destroyed and help everyone find the fragments information leading to discoveries like this

@SLYdevil

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a crime, dawg. My entire culture is laid back in white men's sock drawers & hung up on the walls of the ghost men. It's 2022 & I hope you are not washing them before you donate the finds for research, or it's definitely a crime; even if you get it out of your own yard. Fug it, right? You've taken everything else, might as well steal our grandparents teeth/bone, throw your plastic down on my grand dads back. Long & happy life

@snowmiaow

2 жыл бұрын

I am really interested in the cultures of this region. We need a lot more study of it. I think there were many lifeways and civilizations that have not yet been figured out or given the respect they deserve.

@MiltonRoe

2 жыл бұрын

@@SLYdevil u ok?

@virutech32

2 жыл бұрын

@@SLYdevil dude i get that archeology is a field full of some real bastard colonizers, specially historically not that much has changed when it comes to stealing shit. however if a dude digs up a rock that's been sitting in the ground for hundreds of years outta their back yard there's nothing wrong with that. sure they should be careful about how they treat their finds, but chill. it belongs to no one anymore & as long as it adds to our collection of knowledge about our past id say it's a good move

@factanonverba7547

2 жыл бұрын

@@SLYdevil what's a ghost man? Btw, don't feel too bad about other people's greed and selfishness. Your ancestors' greatest treasure is alive in you. And, eventually, this will all be over anyways; from insurmountable human weaknesses. Keep in mind, given enough time, your ancestors could have been the colonizers, or, your descendants will be.

I would like to thank you Anton for not giving in & selling out to the "Ads". it's really hard to find a decent place to watch videos without being drowned in Ads. so once again thank you

As we know from Chelyabinsk, an air bolite can explode over a populated area and scare a lot of people and cause a lot of localized damage and injuries without completely annihilating the city.

@W1LdnKai

2 жыл бұрын

glad someone brought that up!

@Kais.

2 жыл бұрын

Very solid point.

@allangibson8494

Жыл бұрын

And Tunguska didn’t produce a crater…

The area seems to be too big for being hit by one airburst alone. But a meteorite desintegrating in just the right moment to form a swarm of airbursts could be an explanation of the iridium and platinum being spread over this relatively large area while no fragment was big enough to make it all the way down and create a crater. If some or many of their villages were destroyed by airbursts or the resulting fires, there should be something to find. The area is so large and the number of sites is so high. If large scale destruction happened, it is highly unlikely that no trace at all is left. Large scale destruction through wildfires should also be detectable in the sediments outside the settlements. If there is no trace of fire and destruction, then there was no major destruction. It makes limited sense to believe in airbursts killing a culture when archaeology can prove that it existed 200 years longer. A collapse of a society due to instant destruction of infrastructure happens much faster. Even though I don't see a close connection between these airburts and the demise of the Hopewell Culture, I don't like the way many scientists think about the danger of airbursts and impacts. Statistically airburst and impacts occure way too often to have never had caused serious damage to human settlements throughout history. It makes no sense to accept the large number of airbursts and impacts as truth and at the same time think that all the myth of destruction coming from the sky is purely made up storytelling and every demise of cultures is totally unrelated to any airbursts or impacts. Most probably major breakdowns were caused not by one catastrophic event alone but by bad luck sending two or more unrelated catastrophic events within a timeframe that was too short to recover.

@mahonesjones4190

2 жыл бұрын

Wat about tunguska

@TeroHal

2 жыл бұрын

The Tenoumer crater (1.9 km in diameter) is 200km upstream of the ancient river that fed the lake at the Richat structure. Many think that the Richat structure matches the description of Atlantis. The crater was created 21,400 - 9,700 years ago, matching the supposed destruction of Atlantis. The thing is that while Atlantis might have been “magnificient” by that year's standards, it probably was nothing more than 5,000 people living mostly in elephant-leather tents, which explains why no magnificent buildings have ever been found there... Just sayin’ 🤷‍♂️

@earthknight60

2 жыл бұрын

If you read the paper (it's not paywalled) they don't say that the culture was destroyed by the airburst, they say that it may have contributed to the decline, but not been the cause. They also address the idea that the impactor fragmented and there were multiple airbursts. Paper also presents a lot more evidence that Anton mentioned, including chemical analysis with other known impactors in the area, concentrations of carbon rich detritus, etc, etc, etc. Anton is somewhat misrepresenting both what the paper said and the evidence it presented.

@Unethical.Dodgson

2 жыл бұрын

@@TeroHal "Many think that the Richat structure matches the description of Atlantis." Makes about as much sense as saying "Many believe it matches the description of Hogwarts." Atlantis is entirely fiction.

@kv.b4735

2 жыл бұрын

@@Unethical.Dodgson did you read his full comment?

This is the scientific discipline of wild-ass guessing. But at least the professors got a paper published, that’s what matters.

@kalburgy2114

2 жыл бұрын

If a guess causes us to stop and think it has value.

@MaryAnnNytowl

2 жыл бұрын

That's why Anton dislikes it so much. It will likely be withdrawn when no one else can duplicate their results. 😄

What a lot of people forget is that these people had no beasts of burden, which means no domesticated animals (Apart from dogs) and no wheels to carry stuff around. So if you have a large settlement, its size is limited to how much food a guy can carry with him over the course of a day on his back. If you overfarm the area, or have a drought, or whatever, the food has to come from further away ,and that *generally* means that the settlement is abandoned for literally-and-not-figuratively greener pastures. We see a lot of this in mesoamerica, where sizeable towns were just abandoned in precolumbian times because the population grew larger than the local food supply could support. The Hopewell did better than most because they had access to a number of rivers which made it relatively easy to carry food to a large settlement, but even then that's just kicking the can down the road, you're still entirely dependent upon food that can be shipped in or locally grown/hunted. That makes you more flexible than a place with no rivers, but not vastly so. So the easiest explanation is that their population got big enough to exhaust the local food supplies and they left, or that other parts of the Hopewell Trade System started competing more, or, hell, although plagues were very rare in precolumbian times, they were not unheard of. All of those are way easier, way more likely explanations than "A bolide did it." If their theory is less likely than "St. Brendan did it," it's a bad theory indeed.

@NaatClark

2 жыл бұрын

Did pre-columbian plagues and famines leave iridium deposits in the ground?

@sciencerscientifico310

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the North American and South American societies never developed the wheel, glass, metal tools, animal domestication ( except for donkeys and a few other species ), or writing systems.

@mahatmarandy5977

2 жыл бұрын

@@sciencerscientifico310 No donkeys. No equines at all. They didn't exist here until the Spanish brought them over. South Americans did have Llamas that they used in chains to haul small packages, but that was as close as anyone got.

I comment you Anton on these video's. I've received my PhD a long time ago and left science (I'm a teacher now) so watching these videos make me really feel nostaligic, longing back for the research days. A great analysis and applying of pure reasoning in this video, I fully agree. Also the fact that your upload rate is very high (i.e. almost daily) is really amazing. Keep it up and again my hats off to you! I will buy a T-shirt ;)

You will hit 1mil in a within the next month or so. I just want say thank you so much again for what you do for us. This kind of dedication to presenting current science events to the masses in such comprehensible manner is never before seen. You are a special type that is fully capable of using your media resources to perfectly articulate and express yourself to the masses in a way I havn't seen in a very long time. You, apart from all other content creaters and entertainers deserve a fruitful and influential career far beyond youtube by every means, and you will if you keep on this track. Cheers!

I used to live by Dickson mounds and also have been to Cahokia multiple times. These people had lots of food sources, annual flooding on the Mississippi and Illinois rivers provided multiples of fish management opportunities they could eat like kings considering that and deer,Turkey and waterfowl being plentiful in the Mississippi fly way. They also had a firebird motif that maybe was a memory of the asteroid which shows up in burials and artwork. Honestly given the abundance of food opportunities I don’t think a small asteroid would stop much of their culture. There is lots of evidence of hunting activity from arrowheads and axes all over Illinois, based on just that they were pretty active.

So much discussion about long-gone cultures strikes me as pure invention. My scorn for this field surpasses Sheldon Cooper's scorn for geology, so big points to Anton for reviewing this paper so courteously.

Didn’t expect a video of Anton trashing a paper but I enjoyed it

Fascinating clues that may mean anything at all, it seems. The beast in the sky dropping rocks could just be a meteor shower, frankly. But this is quite interesting, anyway, and I will definitely read your source material! Thanks so much for what you do, Anton. I see you're up to 963K subscribers! You're so very close to that 1 million mark that we followers can almost taste it! 😋 You shall have to throw a party when you reach that pinnacle!

@americansfirst1095

2 жыл бұрын

And mary gee wanna got those who were left......the hippies are now in charge....Clinton, Bush Jr., racist Obama, and now back to Biden. Same bunch for over 30 years......no different than Saddam Hussein.

@Jordan-Ramses

2 жыл бұрын

I wish people would stop trying to interpret ancient ruins. If all you see is walls or the foundation there is no way to know the purpose of the structure. It 'looks like a comet' it looks like a lot of things. It looks like the sun shining through a cloud break.

Love this channel more than just about any other I’m subscribed to. Appreciate your insight, don’t stop.

Woo, Hopewell stuff! Really fun to learn about this culture, especially when you consider the (admittedly not generally accepted and very speculative) idea that they may have once gone by a different name: Nephite.

@angelalewis3645

2 жыл бұрын

Precisely! Every time Anton said something like “They could have declined for another reason,” I thought, “Yup!” 😂

Wow! Some strangely diverse graphics going on in the background🤭 I found the Egyptians pretty distracting when the subject area was being introduced. One point about this theory which talks about a fairly diffuse community rather than a concentrated city state, suggests that an explosive event would have a proportionately less disastrous influence on widespread people than those in an urban impact area. No?

All I can say is that Randall Carlson is up to something. I in my opinion is that many civilizations disappeared due to a catastrophic celestial object. However, there is so much push back on this idea, when there are many unexplained monuments that are out place and out of time.

@Vulcano7965

2 жыл бұрын

You can't just explain any archeological mystery with an extraterrestrial airburst.

@mgman6000

Жыл бұрын

@@Vulcano7965 No but you can't discount it either

@Vulcano7965

Жыл бұрын

@@mgman6000 Yes you can, unless there is evidence. That's the scientific method. Anything else is myth-building and story telling. Or worse, deliberate disinformation.

@mgman6000

Жыл бұрын

@@Vulcano7965 It would be nice if the scientist would look at it without prejudice but we see the knee jerk reaction to discredit theories that don't fit their notions Be it from Bretz who claimed the scablands was created by massive floods and was criticized for decades until proven right to Graham Hancock who is still being denigrated with his theories being asked where is the evidence until finding gobeckli tepe I would think true scientists would want to investigate this but sadly many don't

@Vulcano7965

Жыл бұрын

@@mgman6000 So I see you like the storytelling more than actual science. Got it.

It was fun to see Anton discredit a paper with reason.

Very cool that your willing to discuss alternative theories so respectfully. Appreciate you. :)

Ive subscribed to hundreds and hundreds of different channels but you're one of only 3 channels that I set notifications for.

I appreciated your measured and objective evaluation of research such as this. There are many interesting theories being presented that propose the existence of technologically sophisticated cultures existing prior to our own, but not many provide evidence that stands up to scrutiny.

Anton, you’re such a wonderful person I’m wondering if they found meteor residue inside the earthworks. If not, it was made after the incident, not before. Many indigenous communities speak of things such as this, Thunderbird’s being one of them. Those people survived as did many others. An incident strong enough to wipeout an entire community over a large region would have been something quite large

Been watching your videos for awhile and finally subscribed. Love all the topics you pick. Keep up the good work.

Really great video, Anton. I love that you always stay well studied and skeptical.

It has happened many times before in many places, during catalogued human history as well as "pre-history," and will happen again.

@dlynchious1157

2 жыл бұрын

Sooner than most think

@BobbinMcferry

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, bob

@stefanschleps8758

2 жыл бұрын

No, no it won't. It will never happen again. Never ever. There's no more meteors, their all used up. lol Totally pointless.

@BobbinMcferry

2 жыл бұрын

@@stefanschleps8758 yes, I've heard of this imminent meteor shortage.

@pfzht

2 жыл бұрын

@@stefanschleps8758 yes, yes it will. That's why the DART mission exists and as NDT said "it's a shooting gallery."

you deserve a million subs! keep up the awesome daily research!

Hello wonderful Anton! Great vid and great to see you so often lately! Keep it up wonderful person!

The air burst probably contributed a little towards their demise, but the main cause is probably being absorbed by other stronger culture which is normally the case. One of the classic examples of this is with the Pict's in Scotland who were absorbed my the Celtic and Gaelic peoples who came after them. Another great video Anton, thank you for all your hard work.

I would love Anton to do a video on the meteorite that may have landed on a battlefield in the third Mithridatic War.

This has been batted around for years, I believe that back in the beginning they thought the clovis people were the ones that were wiped out.

Thanks Aton! You're always so cogent, lucid, and a viable source of information as there are so many with bogus claims and not fact based, robotic voices, only created to be click-bait and you're not that way, a very interesting, honest, and credible scientist! Thanks!

Long Time Subscriber, Love Your Rational, Scientific Presentations ~

Hello Anton, with the great quality I often wonder how you manage to keep up that output, do you have a team or do you work alone? I imagine it takes quite some time finding an interesting topic, reading up on it, finding material to show, writing a script, putting together the video. Keep it up :)

@LostInDub

2 жыл бұрын

I was just wondering the same thing as I watched & lo wasnt the only one :-O

@jennyanydots2389

2 жыл бұрын

@@LostInDub He has two fancy boys that he keeps in the basement. But they don't help him with youtube videos, they help him make a different sort of video in the basement involving hard core be whole beef outs. They all have to wear custom fitted adult sized diapers on account of their toilet rings being blasted out so often that they just leak be whole juices almost constantly. Barry knows what I'm talking about.

@a.N.....

2 жыл бұрын

@@jennyanydots2389 does anyone know what you're talking about?

@anesthetized7053

2 жыл бұрын

I imagine he works alone. i think anton reads research papers in his free time and just finds some good background footage to make a monologue over. He has a pretty good template for his videos and with a good workflow you could blast out one of these in a couple hours. he manages to get a lot of value out of relatively simple components which i admire a lot.

@simracingchannel7691

2 жыл бұрын

@@jennyanydots2389 uuuh, okay...

Imagine being on a ship or a plane over the ocean, being unfortunate enough to get hit by one of these explosions, and disappearing without ever seeing it coming or anyone ever finding out what happened to you.

@paavobergmann4920

2 жыл бұрын

Ships vanish without trace all the time for a variety of reasons

Great vid! Helps to remind me why I moved from geoarchaeology to astrogeology; anthropologists I kept meeting could hardly be called a scientist and almost certainly never heard the term critical thinking.

Interesting. This is a recent enough event that we should expect to see mention of it in Native American myths and legends. I'll have to go through the books I have on Native American Culture and see if there is anything that seems to align with this.

Earthworks imply there were enough people in the culture to build it. It would seem the culture was still vibrant to organize such work.

@loumencken9644

2 жыл бұрын

I think you're right. I visited one of the earthworks built by the Hopewell, Fort Ancient in Ohio. It was almost certainly not a fort (too many entrances to be defensible) but a religious center. The walls are enormous, over 20 feet high and 3 1/2 miles long, and to build them required the moving of over a half million cubic meters of earth. That kind of effort requires a stable civilization to support it.

When I watch your channel people think I'm smart for listening to a smart man talk about smart things 😅

Really appreciate your analysis. Thanks!

Love your content please keep going.

I support your position that a scientific solution is lacking.

Turtle Island. Before the world was created, there was and island in the sky, where the sky people lived. The land was covered in mud after a sky women was thrown to the earth, however the eagles stopped her from hitting the earth. She had two son's, Sapling (the word for small tree, saplings grow readily after massive fire) and Flint. An impact event causes massive fires would reveal areas where flint was readily available. That is the creation myth amongst all eastern tribes in North America. Also, the Hopewell culture, was quite different from the American peoples who inherited the earth after their disappearance. In George Gale's History of the Upper Mississippi River Valley, he painstakingly over views the differences of the skeletal attributes of his Native American peers, White Americans and the remains of the Mound Builders. The evidence was clear that the Mound builders were neither like the Native Peoples today nor similar to white people either.

An impact crater does exist in the area of concentrated Hopewell earthworks around Chillicothe Ohio. The Serpent Mound is constructed on a ridge line along the edge of this impact crater. These structures are built to include extremely accurate solar, lunar and astral site lines identifying solstices, equinoxes and other cosmic cycles. The crater however is older than the mound, predating its construction.

That's what I love about your videos : your critical sense ! Thank you very much Anton for all your good work ! Science is not how one think the world is, but rather how one can actually prove assumptions. Scientific journalists often use to much clickbait and do not deep dive the research papers. And that's a very bad habit ! It encourages to be naive, gullible...

This evidence seems like what happens when anthropologists try to do astronomy -- you end with with something very von Danniken-like. Astronomers shouldn't do anthropology, either. The idea is worth follow-up, though.

@bartvlayen4413

2 жыл бұрын

Beware Cortese, even saying " the name of a book seller you mentioned" + -like makes me shudder.

@jcortese3300

2 жыл бұрын

@@missingsig Definitely -- I'd love to see them publish things like this together, at least. Cross-disciplinary research is great.

this is almost like saying the tunguska explosion caused the fall of the soviet union. Maybe if it had been over a major city it could have contributed. but the time line doesn't match up either way.

Thank you, Anton. Apologies for the excessive trolling of this post and of yourself. Stay wonderful!

Great video one of my favourite channels

Much of your imagery isn't of the Hopwell culture, but the Aztec and Inca. I live about 10 minutes away from the dirt mounts which was the center of the Hopwell empire. The thing about the Hopwell empire is that it was intensely river-based. So most people assume it was likely dispersed by a major flooding event, as that's a very common way for river based primitive cultures to get dispersed. Also, they talked about the Piasa bird, but not any sky-panthers or sky-snakes, in the local culture anyway. Anyway, the timing is wrong. The Hopwell empire mostly fell apart around 1000 CE. So I think the published paper is really stretching, and didn't do much homework.

@badlaamaurukehu

2 жыл бұрын

It's very annoying anthropologically when "educated" people do this. Aztec=Inca=Sitting Bull=Pocohontas, etc. Same happens to Africa and Europe and everywhere depending on the level of ignorance or ulterior agenda.

@kathrynck

2 жыл бұрын

@@badlaamaurukehu Often it's just "we need to publish something for our grant money". And having a hypothesis which turns out to not work, doesn't look good for the next grant. Unfortunately, there's sometimes also revisionist history going on, but not in this case I think.

Thank you for calling out bad science that relies on speculation over data.

@Baeur

2 жыл бұрын

You mean theories?

@raymondluxury-yacht1638

2 жыл бұрын

@@Baeur a theory has explanatory power, this proposition does not.

@MaryAnnNytowl

2 жыл бұрын

@@Baeur way to show that you don't comprehend what a theory is in science. A theory is the closest something gets in science to a fact. It has survived innumerable tests to try to falsify it, made many successful predictions, and explains all visible phenomena better than any other idea out there. It's not a .. fancy guess, or wild-eyed idea, like you seem to think it is. 🙄 If you're going to hang out here at Anton's channel, you're gonna have to learn what the word means. 🙄

I probably missed the episode where Anton discusses the younger dryas event and the associated black mat layer apparently coinciding with the demise of many species of mega fauna ranging from Sabre tooth tiger to the Clovis people ?

@gravitonthongs1363

2 жыл бұрын

That would be the evidence for the younger dryas volcanic hypothesis which is the most supported theory.

This was another wonderful video, thankyou Anton

An "air bolide"or "air burst" is by definition not going to leave a big crater. The presence of enhanced levels of things like iridium is going to be definitive in this case. Could this cause the decline and extinction of a whole culture? Well the damage in a fairly localized are could have been devastating (look at the Tunguska event) , but even at this point I would expect to see more evidence than just rare element enhancement. Depending on their religious beliefs and cultural practices, I suppose that is possible, without written records that would be hard to test, but it is an interesting proposal. I think worth thinking about and trying to think of ways to test, but just an interesting proposal at this point.

@markdakins7559

2 жыл бұрын

@UCwTAxZ2zEWu7a_HaaHSV3yA 😁 I agree. The North American plate is old, although I am not sure it is as old as the original cooling of the Earth. Certainly there was volcanism on this plate during the Appalachian Orogeny but that too was eons / ages before we are talking about. But it doesn't require any sort of "catastrophe" to cause a culture to decline and vanish. People have always been able to make up their own reasons to do that without actual help from the heavens or the underworld 😁. It is an interesting proposal but needs a Lot more work before being accepted.

I dunno why Anton would be skeptical. We basically have at least one decent sized meteor pass relatively close a year, and those are just the ones we actually catch. I guess close calls with comets are little less frequent though.

Thanks so much for the video and info. I wish you All the best.

This video came up on my tv and only had the title showing “Study claims exploding comet destroyed a Native American”. I thought, that comet must have been tiny to destroy a single person. Turns out I was mistaken.

@metronome8471

2 жыл бұрын

It'll happen like how the main character from final destination was killed off screen before the sequel.

Well... I agree. Those events happen a lot, maybe the traces come from more than one event. And maybe it had something to do with their demise, but I really don't see enough evidence for that here.

We know that the Tunguska event didn't leave a crater, but it did do a considerable amount of damage. We also know that sometimes the primary effects of a celestial event are only the tip of the iceberg, and it is the secondary and tertiary effects that cause the most long term devastation. Let us be kind and say that it is plausible that a massive air burst could be a contributing factor in the decline of the Hopewell culture.

@vapormissile

Жыл бұрын

Amen.

Wonderful as always anton 🙃👍

Awesome sky panther visuals. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that the relatively advanced cultures of central America built forts and trading towns along the Mississippi river. We often see ball courts in Hopewell towns, and the same spiritual iconography as is found in Aztec archaeology. Further, many of the townships on the river appear to have extensive fortifications based around river access. This means that the demise of the culture along the river may be associated with political or environmental events occurring at the centre of the trading empire responsible for the "higher" culture. I use the term somewhat ironically, as the Hopewell culture appears to have shared a gruesome habit of the Aztecs, which was the widespread consumption of humans for food.

Interesting. Comet evidence aside, one should consider the volcanic winter of 536 in the northern hemisphere . That could have put the nail in the coffin of faltering cultures.

@farmerfb

2 жыл бұрын

@@rdns263 was probably your Mom.

@TechnoMinarchist

2 жыл бұрын

@@rdns263 The Vikings hadn't ventured to America yet.

@MaryAnnNytowl

2 жыл бұрын

@@TechnoMinarchist why even bring up vikings? That's... asinine, and ignorant, both. European settlers destroyed many of the Tribes that used to exist in North America, and drove the rest out of their lands, starved them, forced their children into indoctrination centers, and nearly wiped the rest of them out in the process. That had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the Vikings - who, by the way, never ventured further south than what is now Canada.

@Tjalve70

2 жыл бұрын

@@MaryAnnNytowl The reason why he brought up Vikings, was because @Speak&Spell suggested it was European colonizers. As everyone knows, Columbus didn't come to America until 1000 years later. So only an idiot would have suggested that this was because of Columbus. So the other obvious possibility would then have been the Vikings (or more accurately the Norse). But they didn't come until 500 years later. So it couldn't have been them either.

@badlaamaurukehu

2 жыл бұрын

@@MaryAnnNytowl Which European settlers? Are all Europeans the same monolith in the same manner you group all native people in North America as poor little stereotypical forest creatures without any historical agency or distinctive cultural identities and problems of their own? I'm offended by people like you who run around being offended for people you can't even acknowledge and respect as having been individual and wildly varying distinct cultures both good and bad.

This reminds me of my hatred for Jared Diamond because many domesticated plants around the Mississippi were lost after maize and other crops came from the south. You can just go out and cultivate some grasses, goosefoot, wild rice, etc, native to North America and get double, triple yields in a small number of generations, but why would you.

@zer0nix

2 жыл бұрын

>why would you Hipster food sells well and for a lot of money. If what you say is true, it's worth doing. Better that some amerindian be the face of tradition (but anyone will do if it is in danger of being lost), and hopefully before increasing CO2 levels wipe out the unique flavors from unique plants. I had no idea such a thing even happened. Could you recommend any resources to learn more?

@TheThreatenedSwan

2 жыл бұрын

@@zer0nix That's basically what's being done with amaranth and quinoa. I gathered a lot of this information rather eclectically, but the main point is that there are so few staple crops, sort of, Diamond is wrong on that point rather it is the low number of inhabited climates that accounts for it, because people didn't improve plants once they had a sufficient one.

You explain things so I actually understand very gifted .

Hello, Hello there wonderful person - its so cool how to take these little diversions, history is so awesome!

My problem with all of these "object destroyed historical location/civilization" hypotheses is that the scales are wrong. To have these effects the objects need to have been quite large (in which case, where is the global/regional evidence for the impact?) or have been remarkably well placed. Bad luck does happen, but an object just the right size to destroy a city but not so large that it damages the surrounding areas would have had to have been extremely unlucky. To destroy a civilization, it would have had to have been enormous, triggering global repercussions. It just doesn'tmake sense.

@Windrake101

2 жыл бұрын

......Well then it obviously aliens.

@Vulcano7965

2 жыл бұрын

It's the wrath of god obviously! :P /S

@danielpaulson8838

2 жыл бұрын

Tunguska

@nickkorkodylas5005

2 жыл бұрын

_>an object just the right size to destroy a city but not so large that it damages the surrounding areas would have had to have been extremely unlucky_ Those feathered fuckers must had pissed off the wrong manitou.

@jasonpatterson8091

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielpaulson8838 Exactly. Tunguska roughly destroyed a circle with radius 17mi/27km. That's just not that big, and it's certainly not civilization ending. Again, for a single event it's possible, but the precision of the impact requires some serious bad luck.

If the culture were destroyed by a comet, I don't think they would have been in a position to make a monument about it afterwards.

@vapormissile

Жыл бұрын

Why wouldn't the survivors make a memorial?

I would use this video as a teaching tool in a class on how to read a scientific paper critically, and how to approach any claim made in the sciences.

Thanks for sorting that out. Any chance of seeing a list of links to your videos on catastrophic, astronomical events for human history in the description? KZread's search results are a little bit random.

I believe situations like this has happened many times over through out our history

@Sange4499

2 жыл бұрын

they definitely have, Randal Carlson outlines a timeline of catastrophic events humans have definitely lived through on one of his podcasts on Joe Rogan and there are over 20 catastrophic events we've survived, some of which that have likely brought humans down to the thousands that have occurred within the last 200,000 years. His evidence, not mine, but he only reads 3 scientific papers every day without fail so he might be wrong. I'm inclined to think he probably knows what he's talking about.

@virutech32

2 жыл бұрын

well yeah we literally have records of stuff like this. Nature is vicious place where a lot of, if not most, things are more likely than not to kill you. from volcanoes to earthquakes to climate change

Have you heard of Randall Carlson? He points at interesting geology and suggests a major cometary impact 13,000 years ago. Very interesting ideas.

@louk597

2 жыл бұрын

Have a look into graham hancock on KZread

@michaelsteger9898

2 жыл бұрын

Right around the time Atlantis was destroyed. Hmmm

@joearnold6881

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelsteger9898 Atlantis. 🤣

@metatechnologist

2 жыл бұрын

That would be about the time large N mammals went extinct like mammoths and giant Sloths.

@louk597

2 жыл бұрын

Graham hancock America Before: The Key to Earth's Lost Civilization

Really well done Anton!

@michaelvillarreal4202

2 жыл бұрын

Fake news

Hope you hit 1 million soon!

I cant imagine any scenario where a fireball could wipe out a society spread across half the continent without leaving much more of a trace than this. Except maybe some superstitious reaction that led to chaos.

@voidremoved

2 жыл бұрын

imagine the scorched earth theory?

@CChissel

2 жыл бұрын

It could wipe out one tribe, if it was the right place at the right time, ending that culture, but that’s extremely unlikely.

@dungbeetle0137

2 жыл бұрын

How about an impact with a glacier or the laurentide ice sheet? Obviously more than 1700 years ago but that’s a possible explanation for an impact not leaving as much evidence. There’s a black mat continental wide approximately 10,000 cal bp that is quite substantial containing high concentrations of hexagonal microspherules (nano diamonds ).There is mounting evidence of this happening that the scientific community turns their nose up at. It’s sad

@dungbeetle0137

2 жыл бұрын

Just listen to Randall Carlson and then tell me these bolides didn’t happen.

@MaryAnnNytowl

2 жыл бұрын

@@dungbeetle0137 citation effing needed.

In defense of the paper, sometimes in the old days societies were weakened by a cataclysmic event and it took awhile for them to disappear. For example, it is said the sack of Constantinople in 1204 fatally weakened it and it fell about 250 years later. I don't find that so convincing and instead subscribe to the historian Durant's rule that most civilizations last about 200 years before they weakened from internal strains and die out (a time constant that's also, at a faster rate, found in colonies of bacteria).

@sciencerscientifico310

2 жыл бұрын

Although, there have been civilizations that have lasted for thousands of years. The current record is dynastic China, which ran for about 5,000 years or so.

@badlaamaurukehu

2 жыл бұрын

"Civilization" being the operative definition. That said, historically(first documented) there was a very broad spectrum of societal and relative technological sophistication across North America. Not all people's in North America were the same culture no matter how badly the revisionist humanities idiots would like to have everyone believe.

@badlaamaurukehu

2 жыл бұрын

@@sciencerscientifico310 Ever heard of "The Mongols?"

There was no crater with the Tunguska event

Good skeptical eye Anton, thanks!

Confirmation bias If you search for it, you'll find it even if it isn't actually there.

@Vulcano7965

2 жыл бұрын

exactly what's happening here. I mean seriously, an earthwork that looks like a comet counts as evidence? Talking about grasping as straws! :D

@I.amthatrealJuan

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vulcano7965 It's Ancient Aliens logic

Thank you very much Anton. So often people on the internet put out stuff that's misleading. You take a picture or a word that means a certain thing in science and it's used in a totally different way. There's a video about the moon recently having lava on it.the problem is the word recently. In terms of recently the word can still mean a long stretch of time. It's good to see someone trying to clear this up.

@CosmicCleric

2 жыл бұрын

But he's not really. He's just saying because its unlikely it most likely didn't happen. I mean, the dinosaurs didn't have to worry about an asteroid for millions and millions of years, until one day, they did. So the "unlikely" excuse doesn't really hold true.

@roberttolbert7002

2 жыл бұрын

@@CosmicCleric For much of the science done in ancient times unlikely is all we have. Again my point was on wording . What does unlikely mean. In science it is talking about proof. What experiment can you do If you don't have enough proof something is unprovable . What do you do next. You turn to math. How many times has this happened since we've had records. Not hardly ever. So that's where we get to unlikely the time we know about put in the past. If you play the lottery it I'd unlikely that you'll win so don't go ahead and spend the money.

@CosmicCleric

2 жыл бұрын

@@roberttolbert7002 There are winners in the lottery, so saying that you won't win isn't true. My point is that the whole video was basically Anton pushing aside what the evidence suggests based on personal bias of because its improbable it means that its impossible, which leaning on personal bias isn't science either. Edit: Typos.

@roberttolbert7002

2 жыл бұрын

@@CosmicCleric yes Those are the odds and you still probably won't win. What test can we do to prove it one way or another?

@CosmicCleric

2 жыл бұрын

@@roberttolbert7002 We can't, and that's the point. Anton saying its not true when it can't be proven for sure either way. But THERE is evidence for it being true, and NO evidence for it being not true. So its better to not "bury our heads in the sand" and instead be aware of the potential dangers around us.

When you consider that the collapse of the Hopewell culture in North America roughly coincided with the dark ages in Europe it seems that there was probably some sort of event which affected the entire world, such as a volcano.

You deserve more subs then most KZreadrs.

Hi Anton! Thanks, that was very interesting. But the CGI at 1:35 is very unrelated. This hut is too european. Also, native americans definitely knew wheels, but didn't use wheels for anything besides children's toys. Also, the scene at 6:26 is wrong. The comet should have its tail coaligned with moon's dark side.

@jemhoare2105

2 жыл бұрын

That image at around 0.50 looks Egyptian. Anton probably has a limited amount of stock images and videos he can use.

@denispol79

2 жыл бұрын

​@@jemhoare2105 Yes, the symbols there are ancient egyptian. A while ago I read the book about Knorozov, the guy that deciphered mayan language. It looks totally different

@aleisterlavey9716

2 жыл бұрын

First Wheels work best, when you've got some controllable animal power, which the native American mostly lacked

@denispol79

2 жыл бұрын

@@aleisterlavey9716 Oh, good point! I didn't think of it.

They woke khalego didn't they? Jokes, Thanks for posting this very unlikely hypothesis, it's important to remember that being wrong is also part of the scientific process.

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Just wondering if the size of that comet earthwork is consistent with an archery practice range? Although I don't know of any constructed example in native American cultures, I do know cultural practices and constructions were extremely varies and included fortified tower constructions similar to European fortifications, so who who knows, what outliers exist.

@simonwaldock9689

2 жыл бұрын

The earthwork could be almost anything; a processional way or even a dog racing track. Start the animals from the open end, and the first one into the circular enclosure is the winner. Without context it's pretty meaningless.

@fepeerreview3150

2 жыл бұрын

I was also wondering about the possibility of a game or sports field. There really are so many practical/functional possibilities to explain something like that. Without more background knowledge on the culture I don't see how there's enough evidence there for archeologists to do anything more than wildly speculate.

@MaryAnnNytowl

2 жыл бұрын

@@fepeerreview3150 I'd lean towards a sport of some kind, as well. There were many games that the later tribes were known for, including a complicated ball game with its own court. They had to have started somewhere. 😄

@sciencerscientifico310

2 жыл бұрын

Guess some Mesoamerican and native American cultures may have had castles, after all, the Japanese built castles during their feudal period.

@badlaamaurukehu

2 жыл бұрын

@@fepeerreview3150 And not all speculation is without agenda. Just like many people fantastically insist on grouping relatively similar looking peoples into stereotypical monoliths as if there was only ever one culture/ethnicity on the continent.

Could "exploding comet(s)" _ALSO_ explain all *the peculiar oval markings* along the Eastern Coast of North America? (Aligned SE by NW, I think?)

@itsfonk

2 жыл бұрын

You mean The Carolina Bays? It would seem so, though I’m not sure if it’s “officially” accepted.

@sophierobinson2738

6 ай бұрын

Possibly. The main impact crater is in Canada, near the Great Lakes. The “Carolina Bays” and similar are the secondary impacts from the main impact. The object struck at such an angle that it shot debris out that far. One of the geology channels covered it.

Good work sir!!!

I don't know. It seems like when modern rural populations collapse quickly, it's almost always from war. People tend to stay and rebuild after one-off disasters. They only leave when they're fleeing someone.

I now take these announcements with a grain of salt. It seems like the easy way out.

@Cliffordlonghead

2 жыл бұрын

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@Thomas.Wright

2 жыл бұрын

@@Cliffordlonghead Hi, CliffordTheBot!

@gnomeofwar

2 жыл бұрын

@@Cliffordlonghead DERPY HERPES BOT

Anton, thanks for your service. Was just telling a friend in Brazil about the Illinois mounds and this video just got published 20min ago! Do you have any info on the Arkansas-Brazil Atlantis connection? The largest quartz strata are found in both places and supposed to be from Atlantean times

@benghazi4216

2 жыл бұрын

Atlantean times?

@voidremoved

2 жыл бұрын

@@benghazi4216 lol perplexing ancient alien theorist said pass the crack pipe

Excellent Reporting

Excellent summation!

Not sure why we have so many discounting it in the comments personally... We have an event within modern times along the same lines with the famous Tunguska Event of 1908 which was either a meteor of a comet air burst, it wiped out a 2150km square area of forest and was witnessed by people living in the area at the time. Thankfully the area was more or less uninhabited, but what if the area hadnt been and was home to a sizeable population, given the amount of devastation it could have easily wiped such a population out even if they were living relatively close to the edge of the destruction zone. We still arent sure at how common such events are with obvious reason, given the time frames we've been keeping for all we know it could be a fairly common event... it was just bad timing and bad luck possibly for these people, when nature roles those dice there's always a chance your number comes up. If an event like this happens probability says there's always a chance you might just happen to be at ground zero, even if its a really really low chance, it can happen.

@ruthnovena40

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad some one noticed. Look how long it took to fig. that out.The paper said it may nave contributed to the decline of Hopewell.The paper did not say it was the only reason.

@MaryAnnNytowl

2 жыл бұрын

The Tunguska event was quite a rare one. Of all of the inhabited areas of the world, how often do you hear of anything substantial happening to anyone at all from a bolide? Never, thats how often. There's nothing like it in the records of some very long-lived cultures, either. The chances of such an event targeting the one tiny little area that would make an entire culture fall apart are somewhere between very slim and none.

@NZBigfoot

2 жыл бұрын

@@MaryAnnNytowl Chelyabinsk meteor 2013... steeper angle of entry and who knows might have gone from breaking windows , and bringing down the odd roof and damaging over 7200 buildings to doing far more serious damage. Yeah, not enough to bring down a culture, but impacts like that and that could end in that way potentially, happen far more than you realise. Tunguska was in the last 100years, the Chelyabinsk meteor the last 10, when your talking about a civilization within the last 1000 years, the possibilities of events like this go up alot... to say such a thing has never or/and never will happened, that is the impossibility.

Maybe parts of the native american mythology stems that comet. There are tales of thunderbirds and flying snakes coming from the sky IIRC.

@Thomas.Wright

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure the flying snake was Trogdor the Burninator.

@MrTryAnotherOne

2 жыл бұрын

@@Thomas.Wright Quetzalcoatl

I'm from Marietta, Ohio, so it's cool to see a video related to the Hopewell culture.

Another great video Thanks Anton