Stuart Kauffman is definitely in my Top 10!

This is by far one of the best Episodes to date. Stuart is knocking on a VERY particular door with his reasoning. Robert, if you haven't please dig up an old book from the 80's called Evolution as Entropy, by Daniel R. Brooks and E.O. Wiley. I really don't know why it isn't more widely known. It talks (from an ecological point of view) about the reason for "reasons" in nature in very similar terms to what Stuart describes as the adjacent possible. Actual entropy values lagging behind maximum entropy values, producing order and complexity as a result of constraining effects (history, gravity, relativity... the physical laws of the cosmos if you will) on matter rearranging itself in an expanding phase space. An expanding universe. It's profound. Give the authors a ring if you can. They're still working. I think you might find some real gems... some real ANSWERS, in their research. DZ

@schenzur

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for the recommendation! I will definitely give it a read.

"I don't think it's impossible. I don't believe it, but I don't think it's impossible". Love it.

@ladoparts

2 жыл бұрын

That's freaking idiotic

@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy

Жыл бұрын

Zen

@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy

Жыл бұрын

Ditto.

@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy

Жыл бұрын

I mean to Johan Euys

Very interesting ... Kaufman always gives different views and approaches to problems .

His talk about diversity makes me think of mind, how two people get together, one creates something, shares it with the other, then that person, inspired or influenced by the first creation, creates something new, that only exists in its form because they experienced the first persons creation. Each new creation, original, yet formed with the influence of the previous creation, and influential on the next creation, and on and on. It's reproduction, evolution of mind, creation. I think this process is a possible "reason" for the existence of the universe. The evolution of mind. If so, you can imagine where that could lead.

@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy

Жыл бұрын

Check. V good

@jamesdewane1642

Жыл бұрын

With the measure that you measure out, it shall be measured back to you, and more besides. I'm not a standard Christian, and I would never say that the bible contains all wisdom, but holy moly, I REALLY like that sentence above, attributed to Jesus!

Love this channel

This series asks a lot of "ifs" and gets a lot of guesses in return. But that's good because some day, maybe very soon, someone is going to make the right guess and think of all this in a way that has never occurred to anyone else, and the world will never be the same.

@chrisc1257

2 жыл бұрын

Paid Opinions designed to misdirect the slave stock.

@brandursimonsen4427

2 жыл бұрын

It is not a guess. In the beginning of time the universe was free, and end of time, the universe is determined. So time is from free to determined. We are in the middle of time and determine that the universe has order. Order means complexity. Like the order of a fractal has infinite detail. Ajacent possible is like a fractal description.

@allenrussell1947

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandursimonsen4427 the guest, Stuart Kauffman, says as much in almost every sentence. And, no matter how much pretty math you have in your theory, until it is proved it's just a highly educated guess. That why they call them theories.

@Stefan-gh7xr

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt it on this channel. Globusters DITRH David Weiss Taboo conspiracy

@jonhowe2960

2 жыл бұрын

@@allenrussell1947 you might want to review what a theory is in the context of physics/cosmology.

Fascinating, but now my brain hurts! Even Robert Kuhn seems uncharacteristically quiet and perplexed.

@wesboundmusic

2 жыл бұрын

lol, davetubervid.. Yes, indeed.☺️

@jamesdewane1642

Жыл бұрын

Anything that keeps Kuhn quiet is a plus. He couldn't figure out how to condescend to Kaufman. I like the interviews, don't like Kuhn. Life is full of hard choices.

Desire to continuously exist and grow dictates why beings exist in so many different varieties, thriving in so many different spheres, and for those with developed cognitive ability tirelessly asking such a grand philosophical question.

@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy

Жыл бұрын

And that desire, is something, all, ?, the reason,..???

@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy

Жыл бұрын

What is 'God's' will? Not that everything continues to exist, survive, thrive, flourish?

Awsum! Best yet! Thank you!

This was really brilliant

Sir what have done with the video of the soul? Its no longer available.

The best way to define reality is to define self first. This is possible only in a state of deep meditation, where the mind is instructed to ignore all material influences and focus on itself. Here's a problem, energy can't interact with other potentials directly, potentials must discharge into something else and reflect physical forces back to conscious focus. It's complicated mechanics, but not impossible to imagine, we can see how complexity give rise to meaningful patterns in our computers. Problem is how can mind focus it's perception into nothing that is made of. Perhaps it can, we imagine neurons work like tinny eyes, so meditative trance is a very colorful space. It's like neurons can visualize electrical inner workings in a shape of flashes, electric discharges at various frequencies results in a chaotic light show. But if we want to engage our conscious perception into this mental disco, illusion vanish and perception of light is transformed into hallucinations and emotional sensations. It's possible because light can't see the light, energy potential can only stimulate neurons, but those are material substance. So substance reflects energy back into a brain matrix, resulting in some shaped and structured flow of meaningful impressions. Something is telling me this is exactly how the universe works. I'm not saying it's conscious or anything like that, but physical space is shaped and transformed by this weird relativity dynamics. By empty space, i mean any point between objects, everywhere is a convergence of the nearest surrounding physical influences. That's probably what Smollin was talking about in his tetrahedron's generation, not sure why this special coordinates must be described in geometrical terms, probably because of the nature of light waves, always traveling at apparent straight lines over curved space. We imagine energy convergence points as some invisible and dense energetic structures, that's important for the following conclusions. We think of empty space as distance between objects, shaped by gravity influences. But place is never only an empty curvature in space-time, simply because the entire universe is in constant motion and all objects constantly absorb and radiate energy potentials. There are two things in play everywhere, gravitational influence from object mass and light waves interfering with each other. We can describe space-time, but can't detect light fields before rays hit something and reflect information to some object, device or an organ. Not even that is entirely true because all objects are porous composites of atoms and charges. This means reality is not what we perceive. It's in a solid state only when objects are very near to us, but dissolves with a distance. More over, we should not think of matter being the same as light, because light doesn't experience time. In a sense we can see the entire image of surroundings like one whole thing, perspectives doesn't matter so much when objects are close to us, but distortions are getting huge when looking at entire cosmos and paint completely false picture in our minds. There's a reason for that, illusion reminds us there's always something meaningful going on around us, regardless if remote events have some direct influence on our situation or not. There's much more to that story, don't want to troll too much.

@sabarapitame

2 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy the reading. Actually stop the video

Yes. It's my oyster.

@xspotbox4400

2 жыл бұрын

The real truth was contained in that video and is now safely kept in a private collection, guarded as the most precious revelation humankind has ever heard.

@chrisc1257

2 жыл бұрын

@@xspotbox4400 Truth is an illusion, all is illusion in and on this realm of magicians.

Never ending. The various methods humans use to humanize energy / matter.

12:41 for this? It’s this simple: The question ”why is?” can not be posed, since ”why” is a part of ”is”.

I agree with Kaufman it makes more sense than the infinities of the multiverse and string fantasies. I Loved how he used Oakhams razor to point out how inane these pipe dreams are . It has always been stressed that infinities are a sign of error in a theory.

@TheShinedownfan21

Жыл бұрын

No matter what you theorize about the ultimate aspects of the universe you confront infinities, there is no avoiding them unless you just ignore anything beyond an arbitrary boundary.

@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy

Жыл бұрын

Ray, Okham's razor, love your comment tho.

@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheShinedownfan21 I can hear you, you're out there, and you're afraid, I haven't come here to tell you what will be, I've come to show you a world where anything is possible

@TheShinedownfan21

Жыл бұрын

@@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy Who do you think you're impressing with that sophistry-- yourself?

@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy

Жыл бұрын

@@TheShinedownfan21 Hm, impress myself? Generally, yes, repeating old ideas, my own or others' , not the best way to spend time and energy. However, I did not, mean it for you, especially, dunno why it appeared like that. It's from a film, and I just thought it added to what people were saying.

Everything has a reason or had a reason at some point and I mean everything. Is there some grand reason? I think so but not the way we can comprehend. But our universe is tiny compared to all that there is.

@ezbody

2 жыл бұрын

Can you even claim otherwise? Because no matter what nonsense happens, you can always say it has a reason, we just don't know what it is.

@lucifer.Morningstar369

2 жыл бұрын

@@ezbody comprehend it. It's not about knowing, our origin or cosmic origin is beyond our human ability to accept or comprehend

@suatustel746

2 жыл бұрын

Leibniz cited centuries ago what that you just said 'sufficient reason' for something to be happened , contingent event can not stretch infinitely unless necessary being said so but why can't we stretched necessary beings, events indefinitely...

@suatustel746

2 жыл бұрын

@@ezbody we'd never know because we're part of the reason..

@jameswaterhouse-brown6646

2 жыл бұрын

The universe arises in our awareness as us.

Yes it does. Its reason is to drive people nuts for nothing.

@nahCmeR

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds about right to me.

@jefffarris3359

2 жыл бұрын

You're totally right I go into these videos for years knowing that I won't be closer to truth but yet I keep trying.

@quannga99

2 жыл бұрын

@@jefffarris3359 I'm with you.

@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, coming to this place, ..., physical existence, has never been an automatic free coaster ride of fun, .... ..., they say it's a test,... ..., It has been said, rather to witness creation (.., this life, creatures, human existence, planets, etc, all, evolution, etc,..), to e x p e r I e n c e it,... If it was a

@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy

Жыл бұрын

..., if it was a free fun only coaster ride,... ...., what? Total boredom, nothing, worse than being driven, at times, 'nuts',.... ...enjoy it

Wow, exciting! I find his ideas to be so conclusive and plausible, he sold me on them right away! (maybe I'm a gullible person, that's possible).

@collieclone

2 жыл бұрын

It's not impossible. I don't believe it, but it's not impossible.

@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy

Жыл бұрын

Good

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Ty 💓

A segment from 'Saved by the Light of the Buddha Within'... My new understandings of what many call 'God -The Holy Spirit' - resulting from some of the extraordinary ongoing after-effects relating to my NDE... Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what some scientists are now referring to as the unified field of consciousnesses. In other words, it’s the essence of all existence and non-existence - the ultimate creative force behind planets, stars, nebulae, people, animals, trees, fish, birds, and all phenomena, manifest or latent. All matter and intelligence are simply waves or ripples manifesting to and from this core source. Consciousness (enlightenment) is itself the actual creator of everything that exists now, ever existed in the past, or will exist in the future - right down to the minutest particles of dust - each being an individual ripple or wave. The big difference between chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo and most other conventional prayers is that instead of depending on a ‘middleman’ to connect us to our state of inner enlightenment, we’re able to do it ourselves. That’s because chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo allows us to tap directly into our enlightened state by way of this self-produced sound vibration. ‘Who or What Is God?’ If we compare the concept of God being a separate entity that is forever watching down on us, to the teachings of Nichiren, it makes more sense to me that the true omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence of what most people perceive to be God, is the fantastic state of enlightenment that exists within each of us. Some say that God is an entity that’s beyond physical matter - I think that the vast amount of information continuously being conveyed via electromagnetic waves in today’s world gives us proof of how an invisible state of God could indeed exist. For example, it’s now widely known that specific data relayed by way of electromagnetic waves has the potential to help bring about extraordinary and powerful effects - including an instant global awareness of something or a mass emotional reaction. It’s also common knowledge that these invisible waves can easily be used to detonate a bomb or to enable NASA to control the movements of a robot as far away as the Moon or Mars - none of which is possible without a receiver to decode the information that’s being transmitted. Without the receiver, the data would remain impotent. In a very similar way, we need to have our own ‘receiver’ switched on so that we can activate a clear and precise understanding of our own life, all other life and what everything else in existence is. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day helps us to achieve this because it allows us to reach the core of our enlightenment and keep it switched on. That’s because Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what scientists now refer to as the unified field of consciousnesses. To break it down - Myoho represents the Law of manifestation and latency (Nature) and consists of two alternating states. For example, the state of Myo is where everything in life that’s not obvious to us exists - including our stored memories when we’re not thinking about them - our hidden potential and inner emotions whenever they’re dormant - our desires, our fears, our wisdom, happiness, karma - and more importantly, our enlightenment. The other state, ho, is where everything in Life exists whenever it becomes evident to us, such as when a thought pops up from within our memory - whenever we experience or express our emotions - or whenever a good or bad cause manifests as an effect from our karma. When anything becomes apparent, it merely means that it’s come out of the state of Myo (dormancy/latency) and into a state of ho (manifestation). It’s the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness, being awake or asleep, or knowing and not knowing. The second law - Renge - Ren meaning cause and ge meaning effect, governs and controls the functions of Myoho - these two laws of Myoho and Renge, not only function together simultaneously but also underlies all spiritual and physical existence. The final and third part of the tri-combination - Kyo, is the Law that allows Myoho to integrate with Renge - or vice versa. It’s the great, invisible thread of energy that fuses and connects all Life and matter - as well as the past, present and future. It’s also sometimes termed the Universal Law of Communication - perhaps it could even be compared with the string theory that many scientists now suspect exists. Just as the cells in our body, our thoughts, feelings and everything else is continually fluctuating within us - all that exists in the world around us and beyond is also in a constant state of flux - constantly controlled by these three fundamental laws. In fact, more things are going back and forth between the two states of Myo and ho in a single moment than it would ever be possible to calculate or describe. And it doesn’t matter how big or small, famous or trivial anything or anyone may appear to be, everything that’s ever existed in the past, exists now or will exist in the future, exists only because of the workings of the Laws ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ - the basis of the four fundamental forces, and if they didn’t function, neither we nor anything else could go on existing. That’s because all forms of existence, including the seasons, day, night, birth, death and so on, are moving forward in an ongoing flow of continuation - rhythmically reverting back and forth between the two fundamental states of Myo and ho in absolute accordance with Renge - and by way of Kyo. Even stars are dying and being reborn under the workings of what the combination ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ represents. Nam, or Namu - which mean the same thing, are vibrational passwords or keys that allow us to reach deep into our life and fuse with or become one with ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’. On a more personal level, nothing ever happens by chance or coincidence, it’s the causes that we’ve made in our past, or are presently making, that determine how these laws function uniquely in each of our lives - as well as the environment from moment to moment. By facing east, in harmony with the direction that the Earth is spinning, and chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo for a minimum of, let’s say, ten minutes daily to start with, any of us can experience actual proof of its positive effects in our lives - even if it only makes us feel good on the inside, there will be a definite positive effect. That’s because we’re able to pierce through the thickest layers of our karma and activate our inherent Buddha Nature (our enlightened state). By so doing, we’re then able to bring forth the wisdom and good fortune that we need to challenge, overcome and change our adverse circumstances - turn them into positive ones - or manifest and gain even greater fulfilment in our daily lives from our accumulated good karma. This also allows us to bring forth the wisdom that can free us from the ignorance and stupidity that’s preventing us from accepting and being proud of the person that we indeed are - regardless of our race, colour, gender or sexuality. We’re also able to see and understand our circumstances and the environment far more clearly, as well as attract and connect with any needed external beneficial forces and situations. As I’ve already mentioned, everything is subject to the law of Cause and Effect - the ‘actual-proof-strength’ resulting from chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo always depends on our determination, sincerity and dedication. For example, the levels of difference could be compared to making a sound on a piano, creating a melody, producing a great song, and so on. Something else that’s very important to always respect and acknowledge is that the Law (or if you prefer God) is in everyone and everything. NB: There are frightening and disturbing sounds, and there are tranquil and relaxing sounds. It’s the emotional result of any noise or sound that can trigger off a mood or even instantly change one. When chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day, we are producing a sound vibration that’s the password to our true inner-self - this soon becomes apparent when you start reassessing your views on various things - such as your fears and desires etc. The best way to get the desired result when chanting is not to view things conventionally - rather than reaching out to an external source, we need to reach into our own lives and bring our needs and desires to fruition from within - including the good fortune and strength to achieve any help that we may need. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo also reaches out externally and draws us towards, or draws towards us, what we need to make us happy from our environment. For example, it helps us to be in the right place at the right time - to make better choices and decisions and so forth. We need to think of it as a seed within us that we’re watering and bringing sunshine to for it to grow, blossom and bring forth fruit or flowers. It’s also important to understand that everything we need in life, including the answer to every question and the potential to achieve every dream, already exists within us.

The biologists know more than anyone that organism and environment go together. They imply each other, in other words they are one process. The hummingbird and the flower are really one thing, despite the appearance (at least to us) of being separate. You can’t have an organism without an environment, because you need energy (environment) for something to emerge (organism). This emergence then which is our organism then evokes its environment through its senses. In other words then, the energy, space, cosmos, universe, whatever you want to call it, becomes aware of itself. You’re it!

@xspotbox4400

2 жыл бұрын

So Mars is like... a dumb planet?

@aqilshamil9633

2 жыл бұрын

@@xspotbox4400 perhaps

Brilliant!

excellent

Reason is a tool humans have developed to investigate and describe the universe to ourselves. If you use reason to "see" the universe it appears to have a reason or purpose. We see the universe not as it is but as WE are.

Now thats a great philosophical question. What is free will if we are all subject to entropy. N if we can predict entropy. Can we ever imagine beyond our entropic reality?

So basically the reason of existance is the endless creation of posibilities

Great

Beautiful though. Brother James 🙏

Brilliant

The cosmos could very well be the dream and the reality that we call the mind.

7:32: "That means by which the universe grows its adjacent possible the fastest yields the winning universe" ... I love that. But for the adjacent possibles to compete they must dwell in the same space. Is this "space" a kind of "meta universe"?

@continentalgin

2 жыл бұрын

Also, 'adjacent possibles' and a self-propelled propagation of diversity --- is that not a description of multiverse theory?

@jamesdewane1642

Жыл бұрын

If the whole can communicate with its parts, would it encourage activity that leads to more possibilities and discourage activity that closes off possibilities? If yes, would the parts experience that as divine guidance?

@jwingit

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesdewane1642 Sure, why not? Go forth and procreate my son....

We call it an expanding universe, but I think it’s actually growing because of parts of the universe/multiverse that we will never see is making it grow

@helderalmeida3417

2 жыл бұрын

I don't believe in the multiverse, somehow I think its wrong.

@alanbrady420

2 жыл бұрын

@@helderalmeida3417 possibly but then again it could be true because at makes sense mathematically even if we cannot see it so who knows. But the universe is expanding for some reason and I think that may be the answer

@alanbrady420

2 жыл бұрын

Why else would it expand if it wasn’t growing some how?

@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy

Жыл бұрын

Hm, good, 'scientists', know full well they know full well, they know v little,.. .., but to get 'their' (yours and mine) money, they have to keep bontificating on, they know, this, that, the, other. When they don't.😊 Quite funny really! Say?

Very interesting. I wonder how a theory of ever increasing diversity as a reason to exist works along with the expected end state of the universe - Which seems to be a gigantic void . Is that quantum sauce then the ultimate realm of unlimited possibility without restrictions ?

@wesboundmusic

2 жыл бұрын

As for that end state of the universe, @derSchmidi: I find Sir Roger Penrose's musings quite fascinating and somewhat plausible, too. He says something to the effect that this "end state" may be(come) the precursor to yet another "Big Bang" in his Conformal Cyclic Cosmology, with the punch line/reasoning being: The universe "forgets" time (as well as space) it's gotten so big and matter become so diluted that no point of reference nor "speed of motion" can be determined to clock anything. Sounds about right to my ears. No time, no space. And voilà: Another universe begins. I find it to be a plausible idea.

I refer to my 5 yr old nephew for wisdom... Me: Kyle, whats the reason for the universe? Kyle: Just because. and thats good enough for me!

@Novastar.SaberCombat

2 жыл бұрын

Precisely one of the reasons that humans (overall) remain in their infantile stages. True wisdom and science needs to be passed down, not up... but with a few simple (yet difficult to comprehend) exceptions.

@jameswaterhouse-brown6646

2 жыл бұрын

When the student is ready... the nephew will appear.

@con.troller4183

2 жыл бұрын

@@Novastar.SaberCombat There is nothing wrong with Kyle's answer. It is more honest than any theistic gymnastics and as accurate as any cosmological data can infer. The universe just is, and that's ok.

terence mckenna would find this interesting. this seems similar to novelty theory.

@vladimir0700

2 жыл бұрын

Not really. mckenna’s is dopehead theory-everything in the universe is about taking as much/many psychotropic substances as possible before you die

@bobdhitman

2 жыл бұрын

@@vladimir0700 - pretty sad if you think this was McKenna’s message

@SpacePonder

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it is quite similar.

@ayoubzahiri1918

2 жыл бұрын

i literally had god told me under psychdelics the reason of existence, he said being the only one in the cosmos fucking sucks, so he created this experiences of 'multiplicity' and forgot himself being god into limited forms to experience a perfect multiplicity experiences

@bobdhitman

2 жыл бұрын

@@ayoubzahiri1918 - “you are the universe experiencing itself.” That must have been a powerful and moving trip

What he's describing, reminds me of a fractal.

We are eternal beings in a eternal existence. There is no meaning to it, it's just the way things are but since deep down we are eternal then we must create new realitys and new places to experince or we will be bored for eternity. If you were always you it would be boring so its arranged you die and come back as something or someone else. Or back to the void or maybe a whole different reality. But the rule of our reality is you must be born into it and loose all memory of what you really are.

@Gielderst

2 жыл бұрын

Good thinking. In this case i really wish to never ever exist in any way and form in this reality on this planet once i'm dead. Cause personally it's quite a struggle for me and i don't find it to be worth living as a human or anything else in this reality and planet. Cause there's no balance or fairness in life. For some it's mostly positive for others there's up's and down's and for some it's mostly negative. I happen to experience reality mostly negatively from the events that unfold out of my control. So i pray i'll never be alive again after i'm dead. I appreciate that i go through some experience in this reality. But i wouldn't want to experience it ever again once i'm gone. Cause it's just not worth it in my eyes. I'd take eternal oblivion over existing any day. lol

@lucifer.Morningstar369

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gielderst same here. I study many topics and this is the conclusion I've come to. What we are deep deep down far far in is not this human lifetime. If I told you what I really believe you would think I'm nuts. I believe the world is ran by fallen entites, they feed off of human fear and negativity. They keep the world in a negative state of fear and greed. These fallen entities represent the eye on the top of the pyramid on the dollar bill, the elites worship them. But for you to understand this takes years of research in the rabbit hole of conspiracy. What we really are is light beings that are from the source, the source is what generates reality the same way a lightbulb generates light. We are from this source and these fallen entities try to damn us to be stuck in a lower vibrational state so we can't return to the source. I've experienced the source along with millions of others through 5 meo dmt. The source when experienced is pure love, pure light, pure being and the only way to describe it is nothing. So really what we are is everything and nothing. You can call this source god if you like but it's not religious. For a understanding of my conspiracy topic watch the movie they live, it tells the truth of our society and world. At the end of our tunnel isn't non existence, it's pure bliss.

@lucifer.Morningstar369

2 жыл бұрын

@@tukayz254 god doesn't individually create us. Our souls were not created, they have always existed. The soul is like a tiny piece of god. God doesn't decide our human body, genetics does. Saying god made each of us purposely is like say god created somebody with a birth defect. God simply put the universe and life into motion, doesnt control every aspect of it. Our souls link to a human body, genetics decide what the human body will look like, the soul or god has no control over that natural process

@sarahjoseph9996

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gielderst I felt that.

@xspotbox4400

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gielderst Don't you worry, once you die, you will be gone from existence forever. But you don't need to wait so long, go to sleep tonight, and you will wake up as a different person tomorrow morning. In case you worry about BS concepts like reincarnation, you can forget about that nonsense, the only reason those ideas were invented is that people were wondering about simple facts of life as i explained before. In old days they believed people can never change, but obviously we do, so they thought it must be because there are so many forms of life and biological diversity is somehow reflected in human essence. But it's not about that, we are made from molecules contained in a food, water and air, body must constantly preplace atoms, so a state of constant change of body and spirit is inevitable.

Reason has a cosmos.

@paymonbidari3513

2 жыл бұрын

❤

etymologically speaking, "cosmos" implies order, not chaos.

@ggstylz

2 жыл бұрын

What about something like chaotic order?

Could there be something naturally selecting a diversity / complexity in cosmos, perhaps from quantum mechanics? Might there be relationship between complexity / diversity and free will?

@NightmareCourtPictures

2 жыл бұрын

You can derive certain view points from thinking about Complexity and free-will...but it goes very deep...and it can be a little bit of an existential crisis...so prepare yourself before reading any further: Complexity in a physical sense, is derived by two things: The number of elements, and the dimensionality those elements can have. So you can imagine that if you have 32x32x32 sized box, and 16 cubes in the box, then the complexity of this system is 16 cubes times the dimensionality (6 sides x 32x32x32 factorial or something like that) possible configurations that the cubes can be in, inside this box. The thermodynamic equilibrium, or the maximal entropy of this system is much much lower number in comparison, because there are huge multitude of possible configurations where the cubes can be distributed evenly throughout the box. So now think about the universe....the universe is heading towards a state of maximal entropy (thermodynamic equilibrium) there isn't just one configuration of maximal entropy there's a near infinite number of them...so what happens is that statistically you are more likely to encounter an entropy bounce than reaching what's called "Maximal Complexity" which is basically just the maximal entropic state of the complexity space. This would mean that the universe would be periodic, and cyclical model. If it is cyclical as a consequence of complexity entropy, then the complexity then permits that all possible configurations that the universe COULD EVER TAKE ARE POSSIBLE. So not only do you live this current life reading this comment on the internet...you live an infinite number of possible lives where you are also writing this comment...where you are born a medival knight in Europe, where you basically live every life there is to live and you experience every experience there ever was from their perspective. In this case...Free-will doesn't exist...because you get the chance to live every single choice you could have ever made and you make them. Another perspective is that, because of complexity, every universe you get to experience follows a unique evolution, and because you can't predict that evolution, you in a sense have free will in that way. Another caveat is that reaching maximal complexity takes extremely long and i mean long time scales...we are talking 10 to the 10 to the 10 to the 10 to the 10 to the googleplex years. Now if you die and you don't "remember" anything from a past life, than that time will seemingly be inexperienceable and you would wake up as you would now as if there was only a single universe, when in actuality you've probably experienced all configurations of the universe already an infinite number of times...but you just wouldn't know it. If you want to do a little research, go and watch Leonard Susskind's "Complexity and Gravity" series, and he explains via mathematics, the differences and similarities between complexity and entropy, and how their relationship creates a cyclical and near infinite space of possible entropy bounces.

@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy

Жыл бұрын

Free will is the huge question. However, if no free will, what? A piece of machinery, totally safe, predictable,.... ...., Why would a,."fundamental law" create that? It wouldn't. I think

The truth keeps to expand everyday, quantum, but no string 😁

The "random" universe is strangely consistent what with all the planets and stars being round and with gravity so things on them don't fly off into space, what a remarkable random convenience. Signs are there for those who can be bothered to think for themselves.

@domcasmurro2417

2 жыл бұрын

Massive objects are round because time passes faster in the "head" than in the "feet" of a body. So particles are dragged to the center of mass where time is slower. Why? Because we always travel at speed of light in the spacetime(your speed in time + your speed in space). So when time is faster for you, it will be seen as an acelleration in the space, and you will be dragged to the center of mass, to be in a more stable configuration. The net result of this aspect of space time will create round massive objects.

@schenzur

2 жыл бұрын

@@domcasmurro2417 I think you missed the point. No one knows how gravity operates and why gravity exists in the first place. No one knows why things always have to return to a 'stable configuration.' One can always say because that's the only way it could be or else the universe couldn't exist, but I think we are limited by our imagination. The universe can have different laws where a stable configuration isn't arbitrary. Regardless, I don't think anyone can claim that it has or doesn't have a reason with certainty yet.

In the next 1000 years we must only think of the hypothetical meanings possible. And only if we find one, then we can test if this perceived Cosmos comes a little bit close to providing that.

Our bodies are known as vessels vessels have spaces that need to be filled and it's pretty crazy that we can make more vessels to be filled my wife and I have made six vessels that have been filled. And there's vessels can choose to be filled with sour bitter wine or sweet and delightful wine.

@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy

Жыл бұрын

The best wine,is yet to come,.. ...... which reminds me, have you had a drink today?

@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy

Жыл бұрын

Much in the Bible, and New Testament, misunderstood. Bless you, you're a teacher,..I think

The reason is for us to figure it out!

Etymologically speaking, the word Cosmos and Reason are identical. That being said; the meaning of Life is Love. Blessings.

No doubt Everything has a reason for being .

@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy

Жыл бұрын

Like God, truth, love, a certain power

@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, the '-------s, who hate everyone, make them stronger, more sure.

Symmetry excludes uniqueness. My observation is that every living creation is unique.

@Glozzom

2 жыл бұрын

Symmetry in this context is physical Symmetry. Equal and opposite, translation, change of reference. It's mathematical Symmetry. Nothing to do with uniqueness. Symmetry is the fact that you can rotate an object 4 times on an axis and it looks the same again.

@chyfields

2 жыл бұрын

@@Glozzom Maybe that's why symmetry is not observable in nature?

Maybe, at some point, the creator became conscious of itself and wanted to expend it’s awareness, so created the cosmos and everything in it so it could experience itself and everything within it, subjectively through every single thing and every single experience? I dunno. I think about weird stuff sometimes.

@marka6487

2 жыл бұрын

Close, "it" created "us" to become conscious, to experience consciousness through us, we are the creator.

@catherinelh1979

2 жыл бұрын

@@marka6487 yeah, agreed. We’d have to be creators then ‘they’ could experience more things through each and every one of us. 💕💫☮️

@suatustel746

2 жыл бұрын

You've just touched upon the reciprocal benefits, interactions between the creator and created, stakes are so high for both parties he simply can not rest upon his last laurels or put all eggs in one basket, this attempt must have been experimented umpteen times....

@catherinelh1979

2 жыл бұрын

@D. Engelbrecht I’ve read a bit of Hegel.

This drives me crazy because even if the universe finds way to break symmetry to create a variant to find new symmetry, that only explains HOW it does it, it doesn’t explain WHY. Does this mean that the universe being subject to its own laws mean it doesn’t have free will, it’s only running through its programming - therefore if it doesn’t show signs of self awareness, it *must* have a creator.. who chose to not give it self awareness. I’m not religious at all, but the more I learn about what the universe does, it makes me question why it does it and how it learn to do it (and continues to). I’m starting to think that consciousness is a favourable emergent property of an inconsistency in the universes programming.

Could the "broken symmetries" be not unlike the Yin/Yang?

What is reason to the only thing in existence?

If the cosmos have a reason we can only hope that it´s reason that is aligned with the greater good for reality.

@JRBNinetynine-mf6gy

Жыл бұрын

You worded that slightly oddly, but, I think your spot on.

@bradmodd7856

10 ай бұрын

a reason that is good for reality....stoner science right there

Maybe it has a reason but not a reason we would find satisfying. What if the cosmos just has the reason that it's the cosmos?

The problem starts with the ambiguity of the central terms, "reason, purpose, meaning" and their surrogates. What does having a reason or a meaning even mean? Does a cog in a machine have a reason, a meaning, or does it have an immediate function or purpose instead? If we are part of a plan, do we have meaning or are we just cogs with a function? Are we co-planners or obligate employees? Sentient mechanisms? IMO, increasing complexity is not a meaning or a purpose for the universe, it is simply an emergent quality of this configuration of the four fundamental forces. In another iteration, with a different set of initial values, the result could be a sterile universe with no possibility of organic life to observe and ponder it. Would that universe have a purpose or a meaning? I don't think so. Meaning and purpose are human constructs, imposed on the emergent order of the universe. Something we tell ourselves as comfort, because our egos fear death, the ultimate absence of purpose. The question is an emotional one, not an objective one. One can lead a meaningful life in the context of being human, but what the universe means is something we cannot answer.

@davetubervid

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it all comes back to language, or perhaps philosophy of language. eg What does it mean to say something has a meaning? Surely we have to define all our words and their meanings before exploring any philosophical topic....

@con.troller4183

2 жыл бұрын

@@davetubervid I think it was Wittgenstein who said that philosophy was the by-product of misunderstanding language. My understanding of the being, philosophers haven't really resolved any deep questions about reality, they have only been refining the terms for use in that discussion.

Um, no it doesn't have a 'reason', that's one of those 'not even wrong' questions. But when you get through pontificating about the pointless, can you tell me which word is the dictionary? Thx.

If he’s framing this within the context of strict materialism, then there is no reason for the universe. When defining something, anything, the “thing” at the bottom or “final reality” is the thing that gives it meaning/purpose. Thus a reason cannot be extracted from material/energy.

Reason is a function of the Human mind, therefore any reason exists only within the mind.

@bradmodd7856

10 ай бұрын

nutty logic, imagine saying nuclear fusion is a function of the sun, therefor nuclear fusion exists only within the sun (it doesn't, we have achieved it on earth).

This realm is a Divine game/simulation, with the goal being to escape. The exit path is through the thought free state

Wowww

Reasons - diversity, novelty, complexity

@suatustel746

2 жыл бұрын

Adds up to cruelty fradulency duplicitous minds and grasping souls...

If the universe didn't have a reason, it does now. I just invented it: To turn all matter intelligent. For humanity, it's to create new intelligent species to colonize space operating in their own behalf. Such organisms should be story telling (so that there's hiStory) and kind (our morality).

IMHO all this theorizing is like fish in a fish tank theorizing about what, if anything, is outside the fish tank. No matter how intelligent the fish or how precise their their measuring devices or how advanced their technology, they will never know the true nature of their existence... unless they were able to go outside the tank. They wouldn't even know what water is in the same way we don't know what space is, and may never know. We cannot fully define a system of which we are an integral part while we are in the system, especially the "why" questions. It sure is fun to ask though, and some people make a very comfortable living by simply "theorizing" all day and calling that "work". Now THAT is the genius part to me. 😉

What I meant to say was: If we suppose a _reason_ for the cosmos, we're presupposing a mind that ascribes purpose. No mind, no purpose. But since humans _want_ to see their lives as part of something meaningful, we're prone to projecting out a Mind behind the cosmos.

@wesboundmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, @pbasswil1. Now I know what didn't sit right with me all along. Thanks.

@continentalgin

2 жыл бұрын

Someone once said that because humans can conceive of God, that in itself proves the existence of God. The reasoning for that is based on us and everything else being part of 'God as a Totality,' so when humans conceive of God, it is God thinking of itself, and it can only do so if God exists.

@pbasswil

2 жыл бұрын

@@continentalgin Ultimately most people settle on the belief system that satisfies some need in them. If those ideas satisfy you, you're probably already a believer in god.

@continentalgin

2 жыл бұрын

@@pbasswil My personal definition of God is as a totality of everything, of which we are all obviously a part of. God's in all of us and we are aware enough to conceive of that, which validates it. I don't mean God in a religious sense necessarily, but as a totality of all things and processes that exist anywhere and at any time. It's compatible with science.

@pbasswil

2 жыл бұрын

@@continentalgin Hm, not sure if I'd even choose the word 'god' for a non-religious type of a god-who-is-actually-a-totality of all phenomena. Sounds more like a philosophic concept, imho. One thing most religions do is conceive of their god as a kind of personage, with will, leadership qualities - and more often than not, a paper trail (scriptures) with instructions and proscriptions. Not sure how a totality can be a personage like that. But maybe you use the word god because your idea of it has _something_ in common with a religious god - like, it serves some similar function in your human life.

It's alive!

Imagine the microbes in your body discussing the purpose or reason for the human body that they exist in !

At 6:32 what is he saying exactly? I googled "botner move" and googled asked: did you mean "boner movie?" Haha

Depends on what one means by reason 😉

@suatustel746

2 жыл бұрын

Sufficient reason

@con.troller4183

2 жыл бұрын

@@suatustel746 Sufficient function? Sufficient motivation? Sufficient explanations?.... The ambiguity of the term reason is not resolved by adjectives.

@suatustel746

2 жыл бұрын

@@con.troller4183 words!!! Inadequate, there's not actual synonym when we unequivocally to express the EXISTENZ..., Karl Jasper mumbled a bit.. That's all

Why is it that no one starts outside for an explanation n always if looks inward for an explanation?

The people commenting here have clearly never read his work. Just because you don’t get it right away doesn’t mean it is wrong.

The cosmos has a REASON and a RITAM, a moral order.

@jonhowe2960

2 жыл бұрын

You should write that up and go get your Nobel.

The adjacent possible is optimally in the golden ratio. Like the seed packing in a sunflower.

@kvaka009

2 жыл бұрын

That doesn't make much sense.

Many if not most objects are part of something.

If it has a reason, what's the reason for it to have a reason? I ask you.

Whatever, we are forever children, in curious explanation.

The cosmos indeed has a reason. It can. Thats enough. Its basically a weird version of Murphy's law...... or Rule 34 for that matter. Whatever can happen, will happen. Because it can. If its not impossible, the universe will make it happen. Somewhere, someday, somehow.

@ajjs2011

2 жыл бұрын

Or can, or must. I like must more, I believe must is more probable. But if we are taking about the "can" option, then I wonder how the universe will look like if it "can" exist but wont bother to be in existence.

@AliothAncalagon

2 жыл бұрын

@@ajjs2011 Easy, it looks exactly like the ones that actually don't exist. And the stories of the people not living in it sound as if nobody is telling a story at all. But thats usually not a very satisfactory answer for most folks, because they have trouble with imagining nonexistence. I think thats due to our brain having a "bias" towards existing, since that is our preferred state xD

Supositions!!!

To be honest, I don't agree with his conclusion. It's a nice conclusion and i do think that the universe is tending towards higher diversity...but I don't think this is actually it's purpose at all. Someone pointed out a while back that Entropy or thermal equilibrium can be thought of as an approximation of some shape. Throw a bunch of particles into a polygon where you don't know the sides or vertices of...let those particles follow some basic laws, and those particles will eventually reach equilibrium inside the shape...therefor approximating it's size, sides, and vertices. Thinking about entropy in this way, you can conclude that, even though the purpose of the particles was to approximate the size of this shape...the particles inside are also Turing complete...because they can approximate literately any other shape during the process of approximating the original shape. This means that any computation done inside this Turing Complete world, is a non-purpose that simply happened because it was able to happen...when the original purpose was to approximate just that polygon. In other words, the purpose of the universe might be completely irrelevant to anything we are doing, and really, we are all here doing things because it's possible to do so...and from there you can see how it connects to Kauffman's diversity postulation. His diversity postulate would thus be an auxiliary purpose...but not the actual purpose of the universe. It could very well be that the universe has a goal that is completely irrelevant to us.

Its fun to think about there is maybe no point. It became an interesting world

Yes to find our purpose. Final goal is to know our true nature. We are pure consciousness but, live in lower consciousness called Ego

@jonnyroxx7172

2 жыл бұрын

Our purpose is to live and then to die. What’s the purpose of a flea?

@francesco5581

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonnyroxx7172 "They help dead things rot and enrich the soil. Flea larvae emerge from the eggs to feed on any available organic material such as dead insects, feces, and vegetable matter. Adult fleas also spread parasites which is important in regulating the breeding frequency of some mammals"

@ezbody

2 жыл бұрын

There is no true nature. Your nature always adapts to whatever swamp it happens to find itself in; it is influenced by it; or perishes.

@francesco5581

2 жыл бұрын

@@ezbody that is still a "true nature" = to always adapt (but still can be just a fraction of the story)

@xspotbox4400

2 жыл бұрын

Consciousness is not material, energy doesn't exist on it's own, only as a flow between different potentials, so however you imagine that purity it must definitely be a BS, since nothing like that can ever exist, by definition. You want to believe in what you were indoctrinated, that's another matter, then explain what do you mean by pure, non brainwashed you?

Does yellow have legs ?

Sometimes these 'Closer to Truth' episodes make me wish we had never invented a language. We're just blowing so much smoke, man and not the fun kind of smoke either.

@Novastar.SaberCombat

2 жыл бұрын

Technically, we didn't really 'invent' language so much as we did 'ways to communicate'. English is great and all, and so are many other methods of communication, but if we could connect our MINDS... that would be a true level of communication. 'Language' is permanently limited. Communication is only bound by TIME.

@tcl5853

2 жыл бұрын

That’s an interesting take on the conversation in the video. I found it thought provoking.

@nathanforrest3483

2 жыл бұрын

We're just on a placid adjacent actual island of ignorance between two adjacent possible black infinities. 🤣

evolved so much that comments are still on bottom of page??

The purpose of the universe is to provide a vessel for intelligence to express itself.

The universe produced human beings. There must have been the kernel of life from the beginning. Human beings are complex enough to return energy to the universe feeding the universal ergodic cycle.

@Xloudy684

2 жыл бұрын

That’s interesting. How do we return energy? Sorry if it sounds like a dumb question.

@michaelterry3958

2 жыл бұрын

@@Xloudy684 That is a good question. There are levels of being within man. These levels have to do with the energy level of food he processes. When consciously ‘working’ from these energies he emanates them. That is an abbreviated answer. There is much to learn and understand.

(8:50) *"The creation of diversity"* is not a satisfactory reason for the universe. It begs the question, *"Why pursue diversity?"*

We know everything that we need to know about what Humans think about the Cosmos. We need a new perspective and ask the Aliens about what they think about the cosmos, but we still haven't detected any aliens in our own galaxy, the milk way.

Not sure what they mean by cosmos, probably entire universe or entire reality, everything that exist. If this is the case, the answer must be surprising yes, since this is reality when it's not nothing. Something exist and there must be a reason why is so.

@BLSFL_HAZE

2 жыл бұрын

Sure, reality isn't nothing, but it ALSO isn't anything, because there's nothing else. I know that's impossible to comprehend, but I can't see any reason to assume that Truth MUST be comprehensible. Can you?

@xspotbox4400

2 жыл бұрын

@@BLSFL_HAZE I can't see any objective reason why anything should exist, do you? Problem is, this reality has a real dimension to it and bothers me because we came from nothing and will return to non-existent state. In other words, we know for sure there is more to this reality than simply not to be. Why this is and everything else is not, there must be a good reason for that temporal anomaly.

@BLSFL_HAZE

2 жыл бұрын

@@xspotbox4400 Could it possibly be that it only SEEMS to us that there must be a reason because we are capable of formulating these questions? Are these questions REALLY as valid as they seem to be?

@BLSFL_HAZE

2 жыл бұрын

If we were incapable of formulating such questions, would it seem to us that there must be a reason?

@xspotbox4400

2 жыл бұрын

@@BLSFL_HAZE We are on the same track here, let me add some fuel to the confusion. Who says everything we can see and experience is real, light is only an information, so most of the reality is just an illusion fading over horizon. That's not exactly true, light has no material effect on us because it's massless, but does carry momentum, in a sense we can measure the force of a photon hitting our detectors. Does this constitute as influence or should we perceive past as a background noise, it's not very well-defined. We can experience history as a force, light caries meaningful information, while noise is just a physical pressure of some sort.

The reason is to exist

Listening to these great earthly minds trying to decipher the unimiginable power of whatever is behind the visible and invisible universe is laughable to say the least.....but hey so what...it's all we've got so let's get on with it .

Stuart Kauffman gave me a natural acid trip

"Does the cosmos have a reason?" No! it just is.

@rons5319

2 жыл бұрын

How do you know?

@francesco5581

2 жыл бұрын

@@rons5319 he has no idea .

@mattcorregan4760

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks KZread genius! Now no one has to think about this anymore.

@suatustel746

2 жыл бұрын

You copied Ludwig Wittgenstein comment"

@brandursimonsen4427

2 жыл бұрын

Any reason is the answer to a problem. The ajacent possible has a problem. What possible to pick? If a pick leads to a dead end, then reason says wrong possible. If the scope of picking possible includes all time. Then the reason of the universe is very finely tuned. And then the universe is a very smart problem solver.

If the cosmos is meaningless then so is the statement that it is so.

@nahCmeR

2 жыл бұрын

You can make a statement about something meaningless, that's not meaningless.

@paulrharmer

2 жыл бұрын

@@nahCmeR our true nature is the cosmos. We are not separate from it. So if we say it’s meaningless we are also talking about ourselves.

If the cosmos does have a reason, does it's reason have a reason? Does it's reason's reason have a reason (and so on, ad infinitum)? If, at any ANY point along this infinite regress of reasons, there is a reason that DOESN'T have a reason, then the cosmos CAN'T have a reason.

@xspotbox4400

2 жыл бұрын

Depends, can nothing exist or never was such a thing.

@BLSFL_HAZE

2 жыл бұрын

@@xspotbox4400 It seems to me that the simplest possible notion is that the cosmos is a reasonless eternal cycle.

@xspotbox4400

2 жыл бұрын

@@BLSFL_HAZE Cycle is a weird term, but think about the origin of a paradox, nothing seems way more likely to exist than anything else. But once we have nothing at all, there can't be anything ever again. So we're caught in a logical paradox of all paradoxes, this pathetic and boring reality is when everything is not nothing. If nothing could become something, then it was never nothing. But if something always existed, why not a magical, beautiful and exciting eternity, teaming with endless adventures and joys, where nobody ever dies, suffer or experience pain? Think about reality from a perspective of a dead person, it should be nothing, but this person was part of something once upon and he knew reality is a state between both extreme impossibilities. This means reality was always in a state between nothing and something, can't be either of those two absolutes.

@BLSFL_HAZE

2 жыл бұрын

@@xspotbox4400 I think the conundrum arises precisely from our apparent capability of highly abstract and imaginative thinking. Beings who can't do that likely just accept their direct sensory experience as reality. Are they wrong to do so?

@xspotbox4400

2 жыл бұрын

@@BLSFL_HAZE I have no idea how other creatures experience self, it's probably something as you described, a collage of broken perspectives and instinctual sensations, but no structured meaning. If an animal can't separate self from environment, then it must experience everything as a singular flow, with emphasis on emotional satisfactions, i think.

Of course it has a reason. However it's purpose escapes human intelligence

cue the mathematicians Godel .

Black holes are expanding?