Struggling to Improvise over II-V-I's?

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Did you know that most of the standards jazz musicians play today weren't always so harmonically sophisticated and were easier to improvise over? Many of them were popular songs written during the early 20th century, and it wasn't until bebop musicians in the mid 1940s started adding II-Vs all over the place that they became harder to play. So, if you are starting out with jazz improvisation, in this lesson I teach you 1 simple rule to simplify jazz progressions in order to make them easier to improvise over!
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  • @professorsc213
    @professorsc213 Жыл бұрын

    As a guitar teacher of 42 years, kudos to you. You are a great teacher. You speak clearly and concise and you have a very non intimidating way about you. That is a gift. Your students are lucky to have you.

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you kindly Scott, much appreciated!

  • @syn707

    @syn707

    Жыл бұрын

    Clearly, how whole demeanor invites you in and welcomes you.

  • @onehere9065
    @onehere90654 жыл бұрын

    giving a thumbs down on any of this man's videos is an unspeakable act.

  • @tenbroeck1958
    @tenbroeck1958 Жыл бұрын

    Your lessons and the parts 1 and 2 B ebop guitar books are finally helping me break away from memorizing licks, to understanding chord tones, guide tones, etc. This is a fundamental lesson here.

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear that, thanks!

  • @syn707
    @syn707 Жыл бұрын

    You are an excellent instructor. I envy those who have studied directly from you!

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Robert, much appreciated!

  • @Morganstudios
    @Morganstudios Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the lesson! Btw in classical theory a "perfect cadence" means the bass plays the roots of both the V and I chords and the top voice plays(or sings) the tonic over the I chord.

  • @ddanze
    @ddanze4 жыл бұрын

    Excellent. The best and clearest explanation I"ve heard yet of looking at jazz this way.

  • @diego2246
    @diego22464 жыл бұрын

    Great lesson from an outstanding teacher!

  • @proequipments7210
    @proequipments72102 жыл бұрын

    a perfect story teller

  • @jmkt7
    @jmkt74 жыл бұрын

    I love when you delve into theory. Your approach and teaching methods have improved incredibly. Clear, succinct and the diagrams are a great tool. Thank you.

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your feedback John, it is much appreciated!

  • @timdouglas620
    @timdouglas620 Жыл бұрын

    This is when theory makes sense! Thank you.

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful ☺️

  • @jayspicer2259
    @jayspicer22594 жыл бұрын

    Whoa. I had to go and test this out for myself over an Autumn Leaves backing track. One question: WHY DID NOBODY EXPLAIN THIS TO ME BEFORE? I feel like this is a top ten beginner/intermediate tip. Thank you!!

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're very welcome...glad to be of help!

  • @PeterGuyMyrand1
    @PeterGuyMyrand1 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent breakdown, explanation on giant steps.

  • @robertdouglas4293
    @robertdouglas42932 жыл бұрын

    Kinda cool Man, from the 60s, nice.

  • @jcspaziano
    @jcspaziano2 жыл бұрын

    Gosh...where the heck was this when I was a metal kid in Jazz Music school?! Thanks and great playing too!

  • @kasramoghaddam1389
    @kasramoghaddam13894 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the lesson!

  • @jumemowery9434
    @jumemowery94344 жыл бұрын

    Loved the lesson. Thanks for stretching me Richie!

  • @preacherjayk
    @preacherjayk4 жыл бұрын

    Great lesson , Thanks,

  • @robertcorel5161
    @robertcorel51614 жыл бұрын

    Pure gold! Thank you, sir.

  • @matthewbrenes699
    @matthewbrenes6994 жыл бұрын

    Love your lessons. You say more than,”put your fingers here and listen to this.” You teach how music works, when you understand how this works, then you can really taking you musicianship to the next level. I’m a bass player learning to play guitar, I’m having to relearn how to play all the standards I have already learned, and your videos are helping me a lot.

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Matthew, glad to be of help and above all happy to hear that unlike many out there, you understand that to play jazz it takes more than just being told to place your fingers in a certain place and produce a sound! :)

  • @iloverumi
    @iloverumi4 жыл бұрын

    amazing lesson and understanding of jazz! very impressive.

  • @mariussolbakken5043
    @mariussolbakken50434 жыл бұрын

    Great video, Richie! Very nice tip indeed:)

  • @alto1955
    @alto19552 жыл бұрын

    Thanks it makes a lot of sense.

  • @richardgagliano1618
    @richardgagliano16183 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Richie, that was helpful!

  • @dkwvt13
    @dkwvt134 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. Most tutorials are going the other direction, its nice to see how to occasionally get OUT of the deep end...! ;-). Thank You!

  • @kulahit50
    @kulahit502 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for clearing this up for me

  • @skale1963
    @skale1963 Жыл бұрын

    👍🏻 Helpful and immediately applicable. By thinking only V7, I found I got a more "jazzy/blues" sound, and also gave me "more space" to develop longer melodic lines as opposed to shorter phrases when I try to outline over two chords.

  • @zeynelkilinc
    @zeynelkilinc4 жыл бұрын

    thank you great man

  • @alarichzollerjazzguitar8948
    @alarichzollerjazzguitar89484 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful, great explanations, thanks

  • @danielt1985
    @danielt19853 жыл бұрын

    Great vid dude never stop

  • @Flavio0567
    @Flavio0567 Жыл бұрын

    Great lesson 🎉🎉🎉

  • @randolphcohen6522
    @randolphcohen65224 жыл бұрын

    Another superb lesson with great examples and demonstrations. Thanks Richie!

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    4 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure!

  • @russelllloyd6453
    @russelllloyd6453 Жыл бұрын

    Superb! Very helpful. As well as the best explanation of this subject I’ve heard, your excellent playing exemplifies everything. The historic preamble is important too. Thank you.

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Russell, much appreciated!

  • @Artsssssss
    @Artsssssss2 жыл бұрын

    maaan, you are king

  • @williamstanford7994
    @williamstanford79944 жыл бұрын

    Dynamite, Richie! Just dynamite!

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks William, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @williammorson1535
    @williammorson15352 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful. Thankyou. Very well explained it makes perfect sense. I am a student of the bass and find difficulty with the 251.

  • @danolivier4899
    @danolivier48994 жыл бұрын

    I really like your energy man, it makes it so much easier to learn

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Happy to hear that!

  • @DizzyKrissi
    @DizzyKrissi4 жыл бұрын

    well explained.

  • @chrisshipp7514
    @chrisshipp75144 жыл бұрын

    Great information, Richie! Eye-opening!

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Chris, glad it was helpful!

  • @jeffreyamado8027
    @jeffreyamado80272 жыл бұрын

    A great lesson, truly. You presented this so clearly. Joe Pass, in his instructional videos says this same thing-that he thinks of the V7 and ignores the II chord.

  • @ferfrant4425
    @ferfrant44254 жыл бұрын

    My first time here. Great stuff, first video and I left learning something new. Subscribed!

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, thank you!

  • @waynerice2484
    @waynerice2484 Жыл бұрын

    Great lesson & well presented! Thank-you.

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @young0804
    @young08044 жыл бұрын

    Muy buena clase estás dando maestro. Un abrazo

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Gracias!

  • @larsfocken3456
    @larsfocken34563 жыл бұрын

    You can do this also with some more advanced stuff. E.g. if you raise die 7th of the II Chord in a II-V-I you get melodic minor. Now when the chord changes to the V7 you get lydian b7 automatically.

  • @arvh1952
    @arvh19524 жыл бұрын

    genius... was awesome to meet u in Florida in WOLFES during ur lecture demonstration...wish I had jammed with u on Stella but was too nervous. thanks for uR books.

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, you should have jammed with us! Next time...enjoy the books!

  • @charliebarredafriends61
    @charliebarredafriends61 Жыл бұрын

    Good job Richie thumbs up! very good way to put it and simplify what is the art of improvisation - reminds me of my first Vibes teacher John Rae, recommended to me by Cal Tjader who wasn't taking on students (too busy touring) back in the early 80's. John would make me analyze Jazz tunes to see first what key and where is the harmony movement taking you.

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Charlie!

  • @Jamestele1
    @Jamestele12 жыл бұрын

    This is an awesome lesson sir. Should be required viewing for graduate Jazz Guitar studies (maybe it is!). I love it

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @vspaulding1
    @vspaulding13 жыл бұрын

    Nice:)

  • @frankking7687
    @frankking76874 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff! Thanks. Wondering about how to handle all the quick, half measure descending ii-V7s in jazz tunes (like "4 on 6") that leave out the Is?

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just play the V7...

  • @bones8057
    @bones80572 жыл бұрын

    What is the theory of the Cm scale over the G7 chord. Sounds cool. Thanks

  • @ismaeltonet
    @ismaeltonet4 жыл бұрын

    Hello Richie, qual é o modo que vc usou no V quando fez a demonstracão sobre o Autumn Leaves? Foi o Mixolídio?

  • @jazzguitarneophyte-christo7988
    @jazzguitarneophyte-christo79883 жыл бұрын

    The four idiots who gave this a thumbs down are just ignorant folks. I am taking Richie Zellon's Bebop Improv course and he does a phenomenal job as a teacher!

  • @delarkaBCN
    @delarkaBCN3 жыл бұрын

    came for the progression, stayed for the cool hat.

  • @delarkaBCN

    @delarkaBCN

    3 жыл бұрын

    it was really useful, btw

  • @luisalejandrodonatirobles660
    @luisalejandrodonatirobles6604 жыл бұрын

    Hola maestro ritchie, porque no hace sus tutoriales también en español? Un abrazo!

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    4 жыл бұрын

    La verdad es que lo hice con sub-titulos hace un tiempo pero no tuvo mucha acogida y no me justifico la inversión de tiempo y $. Ojala que en un futuro haya mas interes...Gracias!

  • @ozwzrd
    @ozwzrd4 жыл бұрын

    Mister Can-do!

  • @raquelchicajazz121
    @raquelchicajazz1218 ай бұрын

    Swing era barely had an major 7ths, and crazy extentions. An example is all of me, using a Cmajor7 doesnt sound nearly as good as C6. What's cool is that some of the swing composers (duke ellington) can easily be harmonized with modern jazz/bop harmony

  • @mosesstewart1725
    @mosesstewart17254 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the lesson, by the way what guitar are you using?

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching! In this video I am using a Peerless Jazz City which I have customized with a Lollar humbucker.

  • @thomasa631
    @thomasa6313 жыл бұрын

    That's great how about were did you start when improvising over the V7 cord ?

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    3 жыл бұрын

    Which one?

  • @RaffaeleSansone
    @RaffaeleSansone4 жыл бұрын

    One thing that I hear a lot is that a chord can "function" as another, but it's really an abstract concept to grasp since they actually sound different. Could you explain that?

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    4 жыл бұрын

    In a few words, some chords have the same essential notes as a the one they are replacing. For instance, in the key of C, a Cmaj can be substituted for an Emin or Amin. Even though they will sound different, both will continue to work in place of the Cmaj in the original progression as well as retain the identity of the tonality. Sorry if it's not easy to understand without getting deeper into a breakdown of the theory!

  • @RaffaeleSansone

    @RaffaeleSansone

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RichieZellon oh so I think I got it, if you take Dm7 and Fmaj7 they overlap almost perfectly, leaving out only the root of Dm7 and the 7th of Fmaj7. So by that reasoning you could choose also an Am7 in place of the 4th (VI V I) to have a similar effect?

  • @joshuamarks1129

    @joshuamarks1129

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good question, here's an idea that might offer a different perspective: Many chord spellings are almost indistinguishable from one another Am7 = D9sus (no root) Am9 = D13sus (no root) Am11= D13sus/A Am6 = D9 (no root) Am6/9 = D13 (no root) Ao7 = D7(b9) (no root) Am7(b5) = D7sus(b9)(no root) All of those "ii" Chords could function or ("substitute") as the V going to I (Gmajor) Many of them could also be perceived as a substitute for the IV chord as well.

  • @lasdudas9210
    @lasdudas92102 жыл бұрын

    My man!!! HAHAAA ;)

  • @aadityakiran_s
    @aadityakiran_s3 жыл бұрын

    Pretty great videos but can you make some videos on how to get there? How to get to a level of mastery with the fretboard and with your ear such that you can get to play all these? How to get there? It seems like it's an uphill battle. Just hours and hours of singing G A B C D E F# G in several orders all over the neck all the while mentally mapping the freborad with each note. So like if you can make a series on that. It would be really helpful. I've been playing guitar for 2 years now and I don't really know how to get there even. How people attain such a mastery of the fretboard to get to play things like this. Improvise over the changes so quickly.

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry but in all honesty, no single video is going to teach you that and you are not going to attain that after playing guitar for 2 years. You need a good teacher to help you understand the finer details. Also knowing where all the notes are on the fretboard isn't going to make you a great player. You need to understand jazz harmony and other aspects.

  • @aadityakiran_s

    @aadityakiran_s

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RichieZellon Hmm.... That's a good point but I'm from India and good teachers are not here. There are great classical musicians but western especially jazz musicians there aren't many of. And since I'm in india, paying $100 per hour for lessons also won't make much economic sense. Isn't there any way to get there on my own like the way Wes Montgomery did? I'll try to find a teacher. The thing is, good musicians don't teach here. Maybe the pandemic has changed that, I'll have to see. But please do give me some ponters if you can. Also a video series on how to get there step by step would be greatly appreciated. Even if it's paid I shall buy it. Thanks for the great work. Also can you explain a reasonable timeline to get to a good level of jazz playing highlighting some milestones on the way?

  • @tlbtwanger
    @tlbtwanger4 жыл бұрын

    Maestro Zellon, would that I could always study at your feet. Namaste

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Any time :)

  • @noahshue5579
    @noahshue55793 жыл бұрын

    10:14 I heard the LICC

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    3 жыл бұрын

    What is the LICC ???

  • @noahshue5579

    @noahshue5579

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Jazz Guitar Channel kzread.info/dash/bejne/naZ42sqnka6qZ7Q.html

  • @MAP448
    @MAP4483 жыл бұрын

    Can I use a ii-v-i turnaround to connect any 2 chords I want to connect?

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that.

  • @MAP448

    @MAP448

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RichieZellon can I connect any 2 chords in music using a 2-5-1 turnaround?

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    3 жыл бұрын

    Give me an example

  • @MAP448

    @MAP448

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RichieZellon of I'm in G & I wanted to go to A. Could I just use the 2 & the 5 of G to connect to A?

  • @RichieZellon

    @RichieZellon

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MAP448 No, you would have to use the II-V of A.

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