Do you use Coltrane Patterns like this? Or do you have another name for them? Check out this video if you want to see some pentatonic scale applications which are closely related to this sound: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hoGAxpR8e9bIe5M.html

@TheThierrysub

3 жыл бұрын

What about "Out of nowhere"as name? ;)

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheThierrysub And the minor one?

@Maks2Art

3 жыл бұрын

good ideas to play E maj over Gmaj....I didn't think about it special.. Thanks!

@ryanbrayguitar2473

3 жыл бұрын

My teacher used to call them tetrachords so that’s what I call them. I’ve never heard anyone else use tetrachord in that context but it works for me. Love your channel, man. ✌🏻❤️

@Gregorypeckory

3 жыл бұрын

It's mind blowing that people are so anxious to be offended that they got mad simply because you used the term "Coltrane pattern" for the patterns commonly known by that name; the world is burning, we have a psychotic madman destroying America and recklessly accelerating the climate crisis as he lies his denial of (he applied for building a sea wall to protect one of his golf courses from sea level rise resulting from melting ice caps), but apparently what really pisses off some people is a nice friendly guy teaching great guitar lessons for free, calling 4 note patterns by their common name.

Hi Jens, from a fellow Dane. I played the blues guitar since I was about 13 y.o. Now I'm 66, and your lessons just woke me up. I'll use my retirement to learn the jazz guitar. Great lessons you give for free. Thanks so much 👌🇩🇰

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Tusind tak Allan! :)

Hi Jens! Dennis Sandole taught John Coltrane, Pat Martino, and a number of others in Philadelphia. My teacher studied with Dennis, and used these patterns for me in a lesson years ago. I'm not sure if this is a Sandole creation, something even older, or just a coincidence. Either way, "Coltrane pattern" is a fine name for them! Thank you so much for your wonderful work, Jens!

God Jens I cannot tell you how invaluable these videos are. I had a jazz guitar teacher back in high school who I always wanted to play like and at the time I just couldn’t grasp everything he played. Your videos are finally helping me understand and I cannot tell you how much I appreciate it.

I'm overwhelmed, there is so much to learn, I think I'll start with the beginner playlist first

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

That's probably a good idea! You could try to check out this post: jenslarsen.nl/how-to-learn-jazz-guitar-suggestions-to-begin-studying/ to get some suggestions!

Pat lived on my block in Philly in the 70's ... i had a De angelico in the 80's ... i miss it

Thank you, Jens. It's amazing how in music short easy patterns can produce interesting melodies. The more I deepen in that concert, the more I see that it's all about the rhythm.

I love that even when providing free and supremely helpful lessons, people still feel the obligation to complain about the title of the concept that you’re taking time to explain. Love your videos, Jens - you’ve made jazz guitar more accessible than I would’ve hoped.

It might be worth mentioning that this 1-2-3-5 "Coltrane Pattern" was first recognized from his Giant Steps solo in a very fast tempo song with almost constant chord changes, 2 to a bar. It's broadly recognized as THE challenging song to conquer as a student. And Coltrane rips those 1-2-3-5 notes over the different chords so fluently. We learned this pattern back in the late '70's in Jazz Improv and Jazz Theory classes in college, and turned that pattern into a practice exercise (just playing that pattern, slowly at first, over the root of each chord in the song for the full chorus, then faster and then in different positions, etc.). We didn't call them "Coltrane Patterns" back then, just the 1-2-3-5 pattern, and of course it doesn't go anywhere near defining Coltrane. But for lack of a better name, until something better comes along, why not give tribute to the genius who established it? Here's a link to Giant Steps for all you students out there, where the 1-2-3-5 pattern is clearly heard - if your ear is fast enough! Warning: if you've never heard this then DO NOT give up your instrument and walk away shaking your head - most who play this song don't attempt it at quite this break-neck tempo. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fat9pZh7j8fch5c.html

You are THE guy to go to on youtube for jazz guitar lessons. Thanks for all your hard work.

"Coltrane Pattern " name makes me feel like I'm getting in on the magic of Coltrane's great music. Thanks

@Cyprous

3 жыл бұрын

Relatable :D

Jens, thanks for building your channel the right way, without click bait and hyperbole. Content rules. Please keep up the great work.

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like the videos 🙂

Here’s a quote “no good deed goes unpunished “ and another “some things never change”. Thanks for all the great knowledge you share with us.

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Good one! Thanks :)

Long familiar with the Bergonzi approaches, very much enjoyed hearing you combine Coltrane cells with arpeggios and enclosures. Thanks Jens! Best, Daniel

Thanks Jens! It's amazing how much there is to create with using simple building blocks.

I've always loved Coltrane. He turned me on to jazz. The older I get, the more I love him. Thanks.

Always been fascinated by Coltrane Patterns, I think they are definitely straightforward, but another viable tool in the arsenal of jazz playing.

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks RC! :)

@RC32Smiths01

3 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen Always my pleasure!

I'm so happy I found your channel, Jens. I'm a bassist, and these lessons you share are invaluable! Thank you! 💙🎸

This was the most significant lesson I had in years. My ability to play more melodically over chords blossomed after ten minutes playing with this idea- thank you!

@JensLarsen

Жыл бұрын

That is great to hear 🙂 Go for it!

Oh man the production quality of Jens videos has just gotten better and better! Great content for years, but the videos look so good now, I hadn’t been watching as frequently until lately again

Another excellent lesson and great licks ! Thank you Jens

Listening to this and knowing that Coltrane sound make it easy to remember what you're teaching. This is a very kind way of pay homage to mr. Coltrane, especially since he is recognized a one of Jazz's greatest pioneers. Since a lot of what you post is jazz oriented, one should expect such references. Thanks for expanding the skill of even those who've been playing for years. I always refer you channel to guitarist from beginners to the advanced. The lessons are priceless!

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much Bryant! Very nice of you to say so :)

These patterns are so melodic !!! All by just adding one note to the triad. You are an awesome Teacher.

Jen, this is an excellent video explanation for putting melodic fragments to use. Jerry Coker calls them “digital patterns” in his book Patterns for Jazz, in which he acknowledges Coltrane’s creative and extensive use.

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

I think this video has unlocked some things that I've been trying to get at for a long time. Thank you so much. I needed this idea of "4 note pattern". I actually searched for "8th note runs", and found one of your other videos in which you used the term Coltrane Pattern. Then I searched for that, and you came up again! I guess I have a lot to learn from you! Your generosity for sharing is much appreciated!

@JensLarsen

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it 🙂

Super video, thanks for all these ideas and licks!! Never thought one could do inversions of the Coltrane pattern! That Partino lick is just great....

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome, Mike 🙂

greatest jazz lessons online. Thank you for all the great jazz stuff

Thanks Jens, another great lesson , I really hear the outline of the chords with the John Coltrane way of playing... Respect to you for sharing your great love of Jazz 👌

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Slightly different approach but some of my FAVORITE patterns are four note patterns. Lydian 1 2 #4 5 (or 1 9 #11 5 if you’re a stickler about jazz harmony) played up the octaves sounds incredible. Same thing with the Phrygian 1 b2 4 5....so menacing and mysterious. They’re relatively uncommon patterns too so they make your colleagues/buddies on the bandstand go 🧐

Like a Manheim Rocket. It has to be called something.I was introduced to the Manheim Rocket by a theory instructor in college and Ive been fascinated by such devices ever since. When I saw your video i immediately clicked. Thanks.

This gives me practice exercises as a flute player to explore . It helps me to define the circuitous rotation of notes played within a fixed distance from one another . Thanks for simplifying concepts that often challenge a players vocabulary .

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Great that you find it useful on flute 🙂

I always appreciate and take away so much from your Videos Jens. Thank you for your wisdom and your humbleness to share it. I’ve taken classical and gypsy jazz lessons at college and I always felt that the professors were holding back their secrets and didn’t want to tell their students in fear that they’d get better than them. You’re obviously not like that and it doesn’t go unnoticed. Thanks again!

@AmandaKaymusic

3 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Patrick!

Hard to believe people would leave you angry comments Jens...

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Haha! Thanks Paul! I think I have a few on this video already :D I can't say that it really gets to me though...

@paulreddy5275

3 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen I can see that Jens. There are a lot of teachers out there but a good instructor is hard to find, I somehow just stumbled across you just recently and your lessons already have made a marked difference in my playing and theory knowledge. Thank you Sir! Much Respect, Paul

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulreddy5275 Really glad to hear that :)

@JazzDuets

3 жыл бұрын

haha! I had the same anger when I made a video called Coltrane Pentatonic. Great video btw!

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nick 😂

Love these patterns! With the ukulele's limited range, it is not always possible to utilize arpeggios the way many other instruments do, so these condensed patterns are a great tool to have. As usual, you took them to a whole new level in this lesson. Thank you! -JoJo

Jens, there will be always people complaining and whining. Your presentation of this soloing approach is impeccable, and use of Coltrane Patterns is absolutely legitimate. Thank you for sharing this with us and investing your time and effort in preparing this study on Coltrane Patterns concept applied to jazz guitar improvisation. 👍

Thanks a lot Jens for this very instructive tutorial, thanks for your time and dedication, great stuff here, thanks!

Thanks to KZread caption I now have a much better grasp on cold train changes haha! Been evading me for years! Seriously though I love this channel! Thank you so much!

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Haha! Cold train rules!

Fantastic Jens. I love your channel. Thank you

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

What a phenomenal channel! Thank you very much!

Thank youJens for your instruction,time,& patience.Im reminded of Out Of Nowhere,the song Bandleader Peter Graves would use to get folks to come in at functions or events when they opened the room.

Thank you Jens, Coltrane is very inspiring for me.

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome!

Yes, people are always angry at something. Thanks for the lesson. I will put this to good use.

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Haha! go for it :)

Love this video with these patterns, especially the shifting a half-step. Just got the Modern Jazz Guitar Concepts book and delighted to see the "Coltrane patterns" listed there:)

As often this is a great breakdown of such a mammoth musician’s methods! Great work Jens! Breaking complex large scales into “packets” is helpful for students. Recently I’ve been doing that as a neck learning exercise for my students. Taking a B major scale tune but using just 3 treble strings to start with. Starting at 1st fret. But each note packet I remove the 6th degree of that modal packet. Get creative with the remaining 6 notes in that mode (which starts on G#). Then learn the next mode from A# but again remove the 6th degree of THAT mode. So you end up with 7 modal packets in B but each has a different note removed to make hexatonic modal packets. The student learns the notes on the neck in digestible small packets on treble string. But the sonic possibilities with these 7 varying hexatonics is very wide and some sound really exotic even though they only come from B major. Next is to move to middle & bass strings in similar fashion. It’s huge possibilities for students learning the neck and modes and harmony.

Brilliant again,Thank you so much Jens.

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

For those who are angry, throw in that F and be a rebel.

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah! Sit on it in your solos!! :D

@Cyprous

3 жыл бұрын

Play F patterns on Cmaj7 to sound outside xD

I should have had a teacher like you when I started interesting in jazz time ago. Always great lessons! Thanks!

Great channel. Jerry Coker calls them digital patterns in his book I'd highly recommend: Elements of Jazz Language for the Developing Improvisor. All these years think this is my first comment, this area always has great info and further rabbit holes to fall down. If this introduces even one person to the material mission accomplished.

Great teacher...great Chanel wonderful lessons always thank you jens larsen

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Great video Jens! Looking forward to trying these out!

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy! :)

great lesson and enjoyed it. This openned up new doors for me in jazz.

I can't understand why people would get angry at calling these structures Coltrane patterns; some people use any excuse to release their anger. Perhaps they're just angry at themselves. Thanks for yet another a fantastic video Jens, cheers from Australia.

Thank you Jens for doing this videos :) Cheers from Spain

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

I've been playing for 25 years, this is a wonderful simplification of a technique that will allow you to build some really great sounding licks that have the dexterity of people you admire, but by building it yourself you can inject your personality into it from the beginning. That in itself is a beautiful thing, and the sign of a good teacher. I see no problem with the name. It really helps to start at the shallow end of the pool with Coltrane because the deep end is like the Mariana Trench🤣

I'm just learning jazz guitar, your channel is a great contribution! Regards from Chile

Excelente lección. Muchas gracias maestro.

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome Salvador!

that’s a really solid offering for fashioning tasteful and effective solo lines. It’s great how you can inject sophisticated sounding outside notes simply by transposing a pattern up or down a half step which could function as chromatic passing tones or as some sort of Neapolitan relationship to a dominant, or be like changing lanes on the freeway and move right back to the lane you were in.

Thank you this is great info.

Gracias!!!!. Me encantan estos vídeos. Me están ayudando mucho. Explicas genial!! 🎸👌

@JensLarsen

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it Maria :)

Good video and don't worry about the pedantics who enjoy endless bloviations about "correct" terminology over getting on with the business of playing. I also enjoyed Jerry Coker's analysis of Coltrane patterns in his books where he breaks it down into digital patterns (instrument independent ones I might add). One has to begin somewhere.

The Pat Martino lick reminds me of a lick I learned from his short book called hot licks back in the 80s. I quoted the same lick in my song “Capacity” from my 2003 release Danny Masters “Keepers of the Time”

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Ok. I never heard of that hot licks video :)

@penchantmusic

3 жыл бұрын

Jens Larsen it was actually a little book I picked up visiting GIT in California. It had a crazy lick where he played a chromatic scale dispersed over 3 octaves. But it only had 10 links.

Great Jens!

Wow, there's allot of information here. Well done. Thank you.

Great lesson mate! It fits well what I`m studying right now! Cheers

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Really glad to hear that :)

I really like these as musical ideas for soloing material - especially intriguing was the slide slip around 7:54. That's really cool - not only can a beginner potentially sound like they are really playing jazz, but the basic target notes become very easy to see and play with when one is only dealing with 4 notes. Its almost like the shell chord version of scales.

I don't know of a specific Pat Martino solo, but it's used throughout his book, "Linear Expressions." I like how you described it as an enclosure of the root, as I've been thinking of it similarly.

Love how you explain man

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it! Thank you!

I've also seen the major ones call "Triad add 9", that's what Tim Miller refers to them as in his lessons.

This was very helpful! You are an excellent teacher.

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad it was helpful!

Cool guy. Great instruction and tips!

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! :)

Great video!

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Cool lesson, Jenzz Larson.

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

“Can’t Hardly Wait” by the Replacements is rooted in one of these Coltrane patterns from the opening riff.

Thanks Jens

I love it!

Thanks for all of your work Jens. When I learned these patterns they were introduced to me as tetrachords.

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like the videos! Usually tetra chords are something else.

@dcehm

3 жыл бұрын

Jens Larsen yeah, the terminology is problematic to say the least(or the most); thanks again for posting and taking the time to reply, I appreciate you and your work

@michaelkohan1251

3 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen "Tetratonic patterns" might be a good name and seems to be used a lot. Some people online call it "Quadratonic" but that doesn't fit with the Greek numbering system we use for Pentatonic, Hexatonic, etc. Thanks for all your great lessons, by the way!

good one!

You answered your own question there Jens - Why? COLTRANE!!! Genius. End Of. ;-)

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Haha :)

Great!

You’re an amazing teacher!! 🤘🏽🤘🏽

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙂 Glad you like the videos

@andreschapapote

3 жыл бұрын

Jens Larsen I’m an organist and I do love to study your videos with my Hammond organ 🎹 but, even if I don’t want to, I’m learning guitar! Keep on rocking!! 🤘🏽🔥

This is awesome.

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙂

I know what you mean about losing jazz licks, very frustrating, especially when you have a huge record collection, which I don't btw!! Great video as always!

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

Love you man

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like the videos :)

@workpine9195

3 жыл бұрын

@@JensLarsen I'm gonna to see all of them!

In one of his four "Jazz Improvisation" books many years ago, John Mehegan had a similar approach that he called "scale fragments." His books are centered around the piano but are extremely informative.

Another book that thinks in these terms, but with a greater variety of patterns is The Cellular Approach by Randy Vincent. I am finding it very useful, especially for dealing with fast chord changes.

Hens, I love your tutorials because you explain things in a natural way. I'm a fan of Joe Pass ever since I found a second hand disc(vinyl) "For Django" back in the late 70's.Your tone and feel reminds me a lot of it, and I just wanted to ask if you plan ever to play a short piece or two occasionally on KZread, since it is the only online access I have.It would be worth hearing a little more of your playing from the other perspective of first playing, then analysing your own performance after the fact with an insight to what actually took place in reality, as well as your usual -find a concept, explain it, and then giving brief examples.Also I would love to hear more of your playing.sorry for hitting the wrong key on my old phone and miss spelling your name

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris! I did make a video breaking down one of my own solos, that is this one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y6qG2K-Lp9TMn5s.html And you can find a playlist with me playing on the channel if you go there :)

Great as always ❤️❤️ 4:28 smart 😂

There is a good book about this patterns by Jerry Bergonzi: Melodic structures.

@kramnewton8683

3 жыл бұрын

Andrew Green has a great book on four note patterns as well, Jazz Guitar Structures. Both of these books helped me a lot.

@Khayyam-vg9fw

3 жыл бұрын

@@kramnewton8683 An entire chapter of Jerry Coker's "Elements of the Jazz Language" (Chapter 2) also deals with these patterns (which Coker calls Digital Patterns).

@kramnewton8683

3 жыл бұрын

@@Khayyam-vg9fw Yes! I was trying to remember what I used to refer to these patterns as... I think the most correct term is Digital Patterns. Amazing book!

@zackdevinemusic

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, these structures are not specific to Coltrane. They're called tetrachords.

@ra6378

3 жыл бұрын

I'm currently working on my tenor sax improvisation and am use the melodic structured book as my main book. The book is fantastic as a practice tool to get busy with but I'm finding it difficult to connect the four voicings into actual music.it just sounds like in practicing them back to back, not playing them all as a larger melody. This discouraged me and I haven't practiced in a while.this video really connects the voicings toghether and helps me acknowledge them collectively as a whole melody. He adds arpeggios and chromaticism to it and it sounds fantastic. There is a lot to learn from this video.i think I'll need to use lots of manuscript paper to study this, rather that just trying to play it on my 🎷.

Great video. I feel like what you are calling the "Pat Martino Dominant" was always common in bebop, will try to come up with an example.

Hey Jens, The name my class was taught in Music School is "Digital Patterns." Cool Video!

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! That is indeed another common name :)

Nice pat martino licks!!!

Turns out this pattern idea was the sound I've been looking for! Looks like I have more improv tools to memorize.

I like 1, 2, min 3, 5, 6 (I know I know pentatonic, but dope nevertheless). like in wise one :) great lesson as always

Great lesson! I’ve also heard them called tetrachords or melodic cells. Whatever the name, they are slick!

I wonder what Coltrane called them?? Thanks for the excellent content. My guitar playing has improved so much using these videos and your books.

I’ve also learned the term Coltrane pattern, I think it’s commonly used

@JensLarsen

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, that is also my impression 🙂

On the one hand, you are murdering jazz with your silly names. On the other hand, I don't care and these videos are super helpful.

I think it can be a great game to use substitutions and explore, thank you. I use it random, but just a,few. I prefeer use menor melodics and myxo b13b19 with different roots in a same Dom7 and triads. use this patterns will expand my ear. thank you

We should name more musical ideas after greats to keep their legacy alive. Hendrix chord! Coltrane patterns! Legends!

I have learned the term "numerical patterns". This doesn't seem to be well established, but it makes sense: Such a pattern is given by a sequence of numbers (numerals) like 1-2-3-5. Notice that 5-3-2-1 or 1-5-2-3 are different sequences (order does matter), and also different musical patterns (4-note melodies).

@JensLarsen

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, that is very similar to digital patterns