This has nothing to do with the ball, but it's really cool hearing Chris do commentary while Ryan's bowling. The pride coming from behind the camera is really, REALLY clear.

This is really great to see both of you guys throw, pretty much covers both types of styles and what the differences are between something that might be a ball up or ball down.

Chris you are not old. And you still throw a great ball. Summit hits hard.

Thanks Chris! I will be getting mine on 6/24! Will use with my DNA/GEM combo if I need one a bit longer

Thanks for the shout out for the memorial at spectrum. Great review

Looking forward to this ball. Love my Nova, though, but I like to try something new that’s similar to the Nova, and I think I might have just found one, even the pros in a pro shop in Houston, Carol, Donna, and Nick, suggested it to me.

I just picked up the 900 global- eternity yesterday! And cannot wait till this is released June 23rd! I’m definitely preordering this ball!

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

Use the link in the description!! ♥️

Very good video !!! Really nice comparison to phase 2 and duo.😊

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Thanks again Chris. Keep The reviews coming👍🤙🏿💯

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

Will do!

Thanks so much for including Ryan. It was very helpful seeing another 2 hander throw a few shots.

Well I’m getting this ball & great video their Mr.Barnzy and Son. I just gave away to a good friend my last Axiom blue/white, still have NIB The pearl Axiom but I can mess with the cover a bit then a stage 2 on it from 1k pad. Wow Storms biggest symmetrical ever. I’m loving it

YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST THANKS !!!!!

Thank you for making this video

Use to bowl league in Lewisville. I've bowled several tournaments with you but no regionals. Bowled regional stops with Simo. The last time you and I were at Lewisville together, your twins were about 5 years old. You drove a Honda Pilot back then. Hope you, Linda and the kids are doing well.

A very great 👍 ball roll very smoothly on the lanes

My home lanes! Good to see a review of this one. I think I'm going to have to be patient until the get your gear league ends in August and see what else they put out. Currently have the Infinite Physix and Phase V, I'm curious to see what they replace it with.

@joshmontgomery9232

Жыл бұрын

It will be a great option inbetween your Infinite and Phaze 5.

I enjoyed watching this video alot

Amazing video about bowling ball

I know it takes after the family line of the R2s Marvel solid & pearl & the Nano solid now we have the Hybrid with a new name. If the cover takes after the IQ line so we had the OG iq , the gold pearl and the iQ fusion hybrid. So if you follow the shapes of balls the fusion was a Traction shape vs the iq tour being arc, the gold being angular. The fusion hybrid had so much RA value so I’m sure this hybrid has teeth! If we drill this pin down the drilled numbers should raise the RG to near 2.50 maybe?

Logo is even reminiscent of the Axiom. Looks like it could be a really good ball for me. I'm a one-hander lefty with higher speed than Ryan (my normal once loose is slightly above his high-speed throw here, without muscling) but way less revs.

@ashatid4525

Жыл бұрын

I’m on the same situation as you for now.

very good video. im a beginner and want to build a 3 to 4 ball bag would this or a Gem/ Reality be good option for THS league bag? wow i cant find the burner pearl on any website did they discontinue?

I clicked on this video while was at work and i had to set my phone down to talk to a truck driver, and after about 30 seconds of listening to the video play(he couldn't see it) he said "why are you listening to Luke Bryan talk sbout bowling??" About died laughing🤣🤣🤣

GO BARNES! GO BARNES!!

I wanna bowl with this ball!

What do you get when an Axoim and a Soniq leave the bar late at night.....

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

😂

@Poundcakebowler

Жыл бұрын

That ain’t right Charlie 😂😂😂

I would love a comparison with an axiom. I have both axiom solid and pearl. My axiom solid started to crack so not much life left

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

Hard to find a solid axiom in good enough condition to compare

I wish I can get some coaching in , Its Nolan btw , I met you at Bowlero watuaga, my average is a 180

Hope is there are others that can wrap their head around this.

Would you recommend taking it too 2000 grit for medium/heavier oil?

I wonder how this compares to the Zen Soul I have. The Zen Soul and the Gem are my go to balls all the time.

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

It will be in between the soul and gem for sure. Almost a symmetrical gem really

What would you buy if you only had one choice, Phaze 2 or summit?

I'm with all the other commenters that love watching Father and Son crush the rack. I feel the same way about the Bohns! Now about the actual Summit... Does Belmo's Trend balls fit somewhere near this ball? And/Or does the Summit replace any of those Trends?

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

I don't think this is close to any of the trend balls. Way earlier and way stronger. The trends were higher rg and cleaner covers than the summit

That second shot from Ryan was just nasty!

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

Just a ho hum from him though! Lol

How does this ball compare to the Storm Fate?

Chris, on hybrids, do the colors dictate what part is solid versus pearl?

@steve4880

Жыл бұрын

Think any color can be a solid or pearl. Just on hybrid, should be easily identified. Normally, the dark colors will be a solid and a lighter color will be the pearl to make the color pop.

Quick lane shine. Sounds like Storm may still have some surface issues from the factory. Easily fixed with a spinner and a couple good pads.

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

Im pretty sure any ball that comes at 3000 is going to lane shine, its kinda what all balls do

@brood5503

Жыл бұрын

@@BeefandBarnzy I get that. Balls are always going to move to equalize with the lane. But if it's shining as fast as say an idol pro with the 3000 sheen, I'd be looking to throw it on a spinner. Lane shine isn't a bad thing on some balls. I personally like a freshly sanded cover to hold its teeth a bit longer than a couple sets.

I added a 1500 grit surface to it.

Shooting at the 3-6-10, what has the highest percentage of carrying? Throwing across the alley like you do or throwing straight down right side of the alley?

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

Think going cross lane gives more room to make spare at the pins. Sometime on easy conditions throwing straight up lane can give you more miss room to get back to right spot

Any idea when you might be doing the review for the new Hustles ?

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

I ordered the RIP today. Will probably be middle of next week. Thanks for letting me know you would be interested in a review. Often we don’t review the lower end balls

That ball looks good!

Superman and Superboy 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

I thought Axiom just as soon as I seen the color and logo

LOL you aren't old Chris but I can agree you are getting older LOL

How does this ball compare to both axioms is it like an in between ball

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

This is a little stronger but similar shape to the original solid axiom

Newbie question. What changes do you and Ryan make to alter the roll and speed of the ball? Particularly interested in the speed? Is it all in the feet or a change in puahaway or ? Thanks

@mikedonzero2692

Жыл бұрын

Speed is controlled mostly by the height at which you hold the ball prior to the beginning of your approach. Higher height will generate ball speed ,lower height generates less speed. Gravity should control most if not all of the arm swing.

@stevenkahan5345

Жыл бұрын

I'm not necessarily seeing that in the video but may try it. Thanks.

Thing looks like a 10pin machine for me lol. Although thats most balls so who really knows. Guess thats why i like pearls for house

Would you say this ball would be a good replacement for a phaze 3? Got it last year before it was discontinued, and the cover is started to die on me.

@elijahpipkin4081

Жыл бұрын

I would say something like a phaze 2 or an axiom replacement

@lucaslafountain6542

Жыл бұрын

@@elijahpipkin4081 I gotcha, just wanted more opinion on it. My PSO said that the phase 2 would be the closest I can get for it unless I want to pay 200 for a new phaze 3 and they'll just keep getting more expensive since they stopped making them last November.

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

closest to a phase 3 would either be a zen or phaze V. I would think zen is closer, this summit isn't close to phaze 3 at all tbh

@elijahpipkin4081

Жыл бұрын

@@lucaslafountain6542 it depends what you have your phaze 3’s grit and layout but I would say something akin to a rstx3 if you wanna go a bit bigger, hyped Pearl is longer and sharper, summit is earlier and smoother and maybe a absolute or a revenant could be close or a phaze 5

If all the lanes are oiled the same, how do they differ?

@drakedbz

Жыл бұрын

Every lane is different due to minor differences in topography. This basically means slight differences in the levelness of the lane that makes a (sometimes large) difference in how the ball moves.

@bunker5696

Жыл бұрын

Some lanes have been bowled on more over the years, creating lots of friction (which can cause the ball to jump). Sometimes a high rev player can shred the oil pattern. Sometimes if lots of people Bowl on a lane the oil pattern gets really worn out. Lots of little factors.

@iceman5117

Жыл бұрын

They aren't oiled the same. Especially with older machines, you'll get significant variations in topography from lane to lane. If the operator has to fill the machine twice to cover 40 lanes, lanes 1, 20 and 40 are going to be dry while 10 and 30 are going to be heavy

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

Topography has nothing to do with the lane machine. Would be strange if they needed to fill machine multiple times like you are saying. Also won’t change how much oil is on each lane. Machine will warn not enough oil to cover pattern

@iceman5117

Жыл бұрын

@@BeefandBarnzy tell that to the guy running my house lol

How does the Summit compare to the Trend?

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

Sunmit is way stronger. Much earlier and smoother. I would say summit to Phaze 2 to trend in that order!

@jmfoty4280

Жыл бұрын

@@BeefandBarnzy Thank you!

isnt TX23 just Traction X 2023 and TX16 is Traction X 2016

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

Yea, 2023 I imagine is update version of cover

Could this be the replacement to the Phase II?

@vance836

Жыл бұрын

No chance. It is a step up that basically replaces the Axiom line.

@grillmaster95

Жыл бұрын

@@vance836 Yeah, it looks like the summit will be better for the higher speed or very low rev players. Gonna be hard for more rev matched players to get this to match up on house unless they really load up the fronts. Phaze 2 is just so good still

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

Summit is definitely stronger than Phaze 2

@UtahKent

Жыл бұрын

Replace the Phaze 2? Heresy! No it's a slightly stronger symmetrical ball, but not a replacement.

I'm 61 years old. I was primarily taught to bowl by a Strohs beer team individual from the 1950's Dave Percudani sr. He was also responsible for tutoring a Lady Proffesional bowler, Audrey Coburn who in 1970 entered her first pro tournament & managed to finish 17th. My reasons for bringing this up is many. Today's lane conditions are generated to increase scoring. In the earlier days oil was applied gutter to gutter. Scoring wasn't as high yet those that had ability with accuracy were still able to score well. The game today is now full of so called 200 average bowlers due to lane conditions favoring a ( AREA ) that can cover for lack of ability. I don't like where the game has gone. It's disappointing to see what's happened over the years. Bowling balls are nothing more today than taking advantage of the current area type conditions found on most of today's lane conditions.

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

on 3/12/1958 the Budweiser team had the following scores. Carter 754 Bluth 834 Patterson 736 Hennessey 759 Weber 775 Total 3825 = 257.2 Ave To say the lanes were never easy back in the day, and that they were oiled gutter to gutter is just factually incorrect. Has technology made the game easier, YES. But I don't think that bowling has really every been a super hard game except with professional tournaments. I can appreciate you don't like the game as much today and that it is too easy now..... But don't say it was super impossible 60 years ago!!

@mikedonzero2692

Жыл бұрын

@@BeefandBarnzy yes ! However the condition those fellas were on was certainly conducive to scoring high. Hard rubber bowling balls on a Laquer finish. Nothing was Reactive back then. Those guys were very accurate as well. Your point is taken however you understand my point. I still like / love the game.

@mikedonzero2692

Жыл бұрын

@@BeefandBarnzy thanks for looking those scores up. That list of players was some of the best there was back then. I remember reading about Ray Bluth when I was in elementary school. 2nd grade. The league averages were nowhere near 200 back in those days unless a person developed the skills to be at that level. Unlike today. The game has changed over the years.

@mikedonzero2692

Жыл бұрын

@@BeefandBarnzy watching that score fest back in 1958 had to be very entertaining. The amount. Of carry to support those scores is incredible. Exhibition was certainly in the mix yet those bowlers could take advantage of the shot put down.

@mikedonzero2692

Жыл бұрын

@@BeefandBarnzy I certainly appreciate your replies.

Is the summit too close to the reality as a benchmark ball?

Why do i feel like this looks a lot like a symmetric Nova?

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

I think this has more downlane shape myself

Did your Tuesday morning stream get deleted?

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

Yes, we had some audio issues. I’m going to chop them out and re upload tomorrow

Summit kinda moves like a TNT.. Maybe a little continous.

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

A LOT MORE! Lol

Chris man, that gray hair bro…..do you need me to buy you some hair color?

In my opinion the game has been compromised by lane conditions promoting very high scores. 700 series today are now a dime a dozen. Early 1960's in norther Indiana & Chicago land area a series of 701 was high for the season. Again on a lane condition that was oil applied across all 40 boards. Bowling performance by the bowler was to be appreciated. Not the lanes. Lol

I love it when god speaks

I’m getting old, I need less hooking balls lol

What were they smoking when they came up with those colors? : ) yuck, lol

Jelly of 18mph! Looks like a perfect fresh ball. Can't get over the colors though. Ugly 😅

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

Yeh, going to have to strike to win your heart!

@iceman5117

Жыл бұрын

Downlane and hand ball speed are wal different. Add 3 to whatever you're throwing

@questfor900

Жыл бұрын

@@iceman5117 I'm familiar with that. Thanks anyways though

I'm pretty sure the sky raptor, crypto boom and stealth pearl are all stronger than this by some margin

@BeefandBarnzy

Жыл бұрын

Define what you think stronger is….

Someone fix that right gutter, Some bowler who is good for 4oo in 3 games on a sport shot is gonna ruin their ball *looks in mirror*

It’s ugly color pattern

Guy's got a great stroke. 🎳