Stroke Video Analysis … How to Find and Fix Technique Flaws

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Dr. Dave and co Billiard University Boot-Camp instructors Samm Diep and Randy Russell show how to do video analysis of stroke mechanics. You can use our approach to try to diagnose and fix stroke issues on your own. We also show examples of common stroke flaws we routinely see in our students. Stroke examples from pro players Aloysius Yapp (821 Fargo) and Sharik Sayed (763 Fargo) are also included.
Content:
0:00 - Intro
0:32 - Video Procedure
2:03 - Side View - Draw
5:02 - Rear View - Fast Follow
6:15 - Front View - Cut Shot
9:45 - Wrap Up
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  • @DrDaveBilliards
    @DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын

    *Content:* 0:00 - Intro 0:32 - Video Procedure 2:03 - Side View - Draw 5:02 - Rear View - Fast Follow 6:15 - Front View - Cut Shot 9:45 - Wrap Up *Supporting Resources:* - Billiard University Boot Camp: billiarduniversity.org/instruction/school/ - “Billiard University Boot Camp Experience” video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZniJmcqIodLUkso.html - stroke video analysis procedure: billiards.colostate.edu/resource_files/stroke_video_analysis.pdf - fundamentals “best practices” check list: billiards.colostate.edu/resource_files/fundamentals_check_list.pdf - “Top 10 SECRETS of a Good DRAW/Backspin/Screw-Back SHOT” video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z4uEschsdaarlZc.html - how to find your “person vision center” head position: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/eyes/vision-center/ - fundamentals tutorials: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/fundamentals/ - “Got English?” and other T-shirts: drdavebilliardtshirts.com/ *Subscribe to Dr. Dave's KZread Channel:* kzread.info

  • @zanethind

    @zanethind

    2 ай бұрын

    I tend to lift my my head a bit when I follow through. I gotta fix that

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    2 ай бұрын

    @@zanethind That’s a good thing to fix.

  • @zanethind

    @zanethind

    2 ай бұрын

    @@DrDaveBilliards yeah and my friend is trying to help me to terminate the chicken wing.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    2 ай бұрын

    @@zanethind That’s a smart and good friend.

  • @sasikanthmalladi4804
    @sasikanthmalladi4804 Жыл бұрын

    It's so awesome that you're giving away all this knowledge for free! While there might be a handful of students who can make it to your camp, there are several thousand across the world who benefit from your instructional videos. Dr.Dave for president!

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m glad you like my stuff. Good luck with your game.

  • @magicayu
    @magicayu Жыл бұрын

    Ah.., Sharik Sayed and Aloysius yapp, yay! Go team Singapore.

  • @xTCxSTEADY
    @xTCxSTEADY Жыл бұрын

    See you're getting more pros involved which is pretty cool. Would love to see 3 pros compete in the billiards university test. Maybe give Svb another try

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    I would also love to see SVB try the BU Exams again, especially after a little practice with some of the tougher drills. I'll try to make it happen some day.

  • @eddiesmurfy

    @eddiesmurfy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DrDaveBilliards That would be amazing! I would love to know how pros match us against each other in taking this exam. That would make some great videos!

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    @@eddiesmurfy We've had some pros (SVB, Tobias Bongers, Mark Gray, Marc Vidal, others) try the exams already. All their videos can be found here along with videos from other great players: billiarduniversity.org/testing/alumni/ It is interesting to see how top pros do on their first attempt like SVB. It is also interesting to see how they do after dedicated practice with the Exams like Tobias.

  • @nvpoolshooter
    @nvpoolshooter Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Like all serious pool players at any level, we strive for the Holy Grail of pocket billiards, the smooth perfectly straight stroke. Correcting what ails your stroke is a whole nuther thing. Breaking muscle and mind memory habits takes a lot work.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I’m glad you liked it. And you are right … change takes work.

  • @jerryhughes4256
    @jerryhughes4256 Жыл бұрын

    You’re the best Dr Dave!

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I aim to swerve. :)

  • @10efranco

    @10efranco

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DrDaveBilliards 😂😂

  • @procrastinator6902
    @procrastinator6902Ай бұрын

    Not related to the content but I was just glad to hear someone pronounce the name "Aloysius" correctly. It almost always ends up butchered (especially by match commentators) as "Aloy Shus", "Ah Loy Sius", "Allew Shus" or some other odd variant.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Ай бұрын

    I usually try to pronounce pro names correctly, but it isn't always easy, especially some of those Polish pro names.

  • @pbkfl22
    @pbkfl22 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. I just started recording my Stroke a few weeks ago, this really helps with more of what to look for.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope it helps. Good luck.

  • @talhi1988
    @talhi1988 Жыл бұрын

    thank you very much all of you 🤝

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    You’re welcome. We aim to swerve. :)

  • @10efranco
    @10efranco Жыл бұрын

    What a great video. Thank you Dr. Dave

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, and you're welcome.

  • @Pile711
    @Pile711 Жыл бұрын

    Rearly great video with very specific straight to the point tips. Amazing work. Keep it up

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I'm glad you liked it.

  • @klawiehr
    @klawiehr Жыл бұрын

    Great video! I was waiting for this one. Now I feel I can diagnose which part of the stroke routine I'm inconsistent in.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I hope it helps.

  • @endogine58
    @endogine58 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all your videos DrDave, greetings from Honduras!!

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome. Greetings from the US.

  • @born2push
    @born2push10 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Great instructional video. The stroke is so foundational to great play.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    10 ай бұрын

    You're welcome, and thank you.

  • @Senior-tr4le
    @Senior-tr4le Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video! Will definitely use this.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I hope it helps.

  • @eddiesmurfy
    @eddiesmurfy Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Dr. Dave, Samm and Randy for this!

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome! We aim to swerve. :)

  • @CocoboloCowboy
    @CocoboloCowboy Жыл бұрын

    Dr. Dave’s advice is good, watching & practice is the only way to get results.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. Smart practice (with proper understanding) is the only way to improve.

  • @JoeyApoolcommentator
    @JoeyApoolcommentator Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video!

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @mikewilson3169
    @mikewilson3169 Жыл бұрын

    Info rich. Well done. I think I will try this out.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I hope it helps.

  • @MrEerwin
    @MrEerwin Жыл бұрын

    This is an outstanding video! Thank you.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, and you’re welcome.

  • @TM-bd7nf
    @TM-bd7nf Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this video. I know my stroke is a major weakness of mine and these checklists will help me recognize how to improve it.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    You’re welcome. I hope it helps.

  • @johnhester4024

    @johnhester4024

    Жыл бұрын

    Can we start calling it " cue delivery " stroke is to mysterious of a term and I have always not liked it.😂

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnhester4024 Good luck with that. The term "stroke" has been around a really long time (in all cue sports) and is used in countless books and videos.

  • @peteb6325
    @peteb6325 Жыл бұрын

    Outstanding. Lots of things I can work on. 👍

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope it helps.

  • @lisaleffingwell3939
    @lisaleffingwell3939 Жыл бұрын

    Another great video!

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @waseemcurry7062
    @waseemcurry7062 Жыл бұрын

    Dr. Dave knows my heart

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry, but I'm not that kind of doctor. :)

  • @JimStout3
    @JimStout3 Жыл бұрын

    This video fixed my draw shot! Thanks Dave!

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad to hear it. You're welcome. BTW, if you want more draw shot advice and help, see the videos and other info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/draw/advice-and-drills/

  • @HillbillyIslandLife
    @HillbillyIslandLife Жыл бұрын

    Great Video! Thx

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! YW

  • @gtrmusic69
    @gtrmusic6911 ай бұрын

    Good video. Thanks

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    11 ай бұрын

    Thank you, and you’re welcome. I hope you find it useful.

  • @dspiveyjr
    @dspiveyjr Жыл бұрын

    Dejavu, from the boot camp last week. Great video Dr. Dave

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Don. Hopefully, you now have some extra visual reminders.

  • @AlsAllMetalDetecting
    @AlsAllMetalDetecting Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video Dave! Be well, Al-Fu

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @nolhoutman
    @nolhoutman Жыл бұрын

    Thanks guys !

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome. We aim to swerve. :)

  • @valentenicoletti3622
    @valentenicoletti3622 Жыл бұрын

    really good video

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @puboh
    @puboh Жыл бұрын

    Yapp was so funny haha! Also DrDave did you change your cue?

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Yapp is definitely a happy guy (when he doesn't have his intense "game face" on). I did change my butt from a P3 to a 9K. I like the all-black look. God observation!

  • @goCubsgo102
    @goCubsgo102 Жыл бұрын

    Great vid as usual Dr. Dave. I thought I saw you at hall ranch last week, youtube celebrity sighting?

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I love Hall Ranch, but I wasn't there last week. Maybe next time.

  • @danp6101
    @danp6101 Жыл бұрын

    Hey Dr Dave. Here is a tip for your students if they are struggling to find the aiming point and / or contact point. You May be aware of this tip already though. what you do is hold your pool cue over the cue ball through the center of it. then line up tip to were it is the correct aiming point on the object and leave it rest on table but not touching the object ball or cue ball. Have them stare at the cue stick for 30 to 40 seconds longer is better. Then when you take the cue stick away. You will see a shadow of where the cue stick was. Then They can line up with that shadow to help them make the ball. the longer you hold the cue stick there the longer the Shadow will remain there.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Good tip. I have tried this before. Other ways to use your cue to help aim can be found in my "12 Ways to AIM WITH A POOL CUE" video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mnWNzMmKfprIp5s.html Check it out.

  • @donkeydiehard879
    @donkeydiehard879 Жыл бұрын

    Man I miss living in Denver! Having Samm so close for lessons was awesome. Not many great coaches, that I've seen, out here in NC. 7 years off after first working with Samm. Definitely need to find a coach to tune up fundamentals here.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    FYI, you might be able to find an instructor via the links at the bottom of the page here: billiards.colostate.edu/links/instructors/ Although, Samm is a tough act to follow.

  • @donkeydiehard879

    @donkeydiehard879

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DrDaveBilliards there is no one in NC on that list. Apperantly there is a good older gentleman that's been coaching forever. He's like 85 years old, think his name is Ray Martin. Kinda crazy there is not more coaches. There are a ton of pool rooms out here. Was surprised that they are all 9 footers too. In the Denver/Aurora area 90% were 7 footers. Definitely a different game but I enjoy it after I got use to it. Main house I play in uses diamond pro am tables so still adjusting. Yeah Samm was awesome, only did two lessons with her and it helped a ton. Wishing I did about 10 more seasons now though lol.

  • @slayerpouncing90
    @slayerpouncing909 ай бұрын

    Hi dr.dave, a great videos with great care! Very informative also. When i was watching this video, i recalled myself when play any shot with medium power or above. So i started recording myself with slow motion video and surprisingly my shooting shoulder always shrugging up as im approaching the cue ball. I tried many different ways to get rid of this shoulder shrugging movement. What can i do here dr.dave? And where could i send videos for u so u can clearly see what exactly happened with my shrugging shouldet?

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    9 ай бұрын

    I don't do video analysis for free, but I do offer it as a service. See the "Video/Phone/E-Mail Lessons and Coaching" section here: drdavebilliards.com/instruction/pool-school/

  • @slayerpouncing90

    @slayerpouncing90

    9 ай бұрын

    @@DrDaveBilliards definately having into your coaching :) however have you faced any cases that causing the shoulder to move like i described above? Shoulder joint is an universal joint which does have a lot of function like rotation, flexing, extending, abduction, aduction lead into a problem that if you dont keep your shoulder still (at least after the CB is gone) its likely you will have trouble with tip contact point, timing, etc. Via your “elbow drop resourses and the video on youtube” i find the lock and load method, i tried that but that cause a lot of tension in my back and i get some upperback soreness if i play like that for 2-3hours also for me its abit unnatural

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    9 ай бұрын

    @@slayerpouncing90 You don’t need to “lock and load” it too tight … just enough to help you keep it still. The advice under “How can I get rid of elbow drop?” On the resource page might be helpful: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stroke/elbow-drop/

  • @AlexM-sk3lw
    @AlexM-sk3lw Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Dave! Needed a dose of medicine from the doctor to get my stroke right.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome. And thank you! I'm glad you thought it was helpful enough to pay for the subscription. :)

  • @francker5510
    @francker5510 Жыл бұрын

    When speaking on the vision center @8:35 were you talking about Sam's left or your left? Because I got a little confused around there cause it appeared the cue was further under her right eye at the time of commentary. Either way major eye opener for me!

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    … her left. The tip is moving to her left after the hit due to her left shoulder and head moving to her right.

  • @zanethind
    @zanethind5 ай бұрын

    Thanks Dr Dave as always I find your videos the most helpful. Hopefully this video will be able to help me analyze and fix any chicken winging

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    5 ай бұрын

    I’m glad to hear it. I hope it helps.

  • @zanethind

    @zanethind

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@DrDaveBilliardsyeah

  • @rifqifalih1968
    @rifqifalih19688 ай бұрын

    Which part of arms I should focus on when backswinging and stroking? Is it forearm only or wrist or hands?

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    8 ай бұрын

    If you are having trouble dropping your elbow, it is usually best to focus on your shoulder or upper arm. If you are having trouble tightening your grip, you should focus on your grip. etc. Otherwise, you should be focus only on your aiming target.

  • @mosesng6050
    @mosesng6050 Жыл бұрын

    Pool billiard fans all over the world can try these you’ve provided in the video, right? I wish I can visit you so that I’ll be able to get some assistance with my slight problems like break problems, aiming systems, and visual problems because I was wearing a pair of spectacles. And etc.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Anybody can try this on their own.

  • @anthonyp4617
    @anthonyp461710 ай бұрын

    Hi Dr. Dave, at 3:33 you say "If the cue is not level with the back of the cue elevated, even a tiny amount of unintentional sidespin will cause the cueball to swerve. My question is this. I have heard this many times about keeping the cue level but if the back of the cue is elevated it is impossible to have a level cue. Can you elaborate on what it means to have a "level" cue when every shot we take is with an unlevel cue?

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    10 ай бұрын

    Correct. For most shots, it is impossible to have the cue perfectly "level" (since the back of the cue usually needs to clear over a rail). However, the important message is to always have the cue as "level as possible" (i.e., "not elevated more than it needs to be") to minimize swerve from unintentional sidespin.

  • @desiwilliams2696
    @desiwilliams2696 Жыл бұрын

    Recently, I had to change the way I shoot due to illness. Do you have advice for people who can't level on the shot (I have to look at my shot at about 30° angle now)? I went from a 65-70% to 50% lifetime win rate in APA.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    I have lots of advice for finding your personal best stance in the videos here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stance/

  • @desiwilliams2696

    @desiwilliams2696

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    @@desiwilliams2696 You’re welcome. I hope they help.

  • @tarcisiolopescoach8994
    @tarcisiolopescoach8994 Жыл бұрын

    Excelent!

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @billteager3618
    @billteager36182 ай бұрын

    The got English shirt is awesome.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks: drdavebilliardtshirts.com/product-category/humor/got-english/

  • @jarosbilliards6074
    @jarosbilliards6074 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! I've learned alot from ur videos over the years Thank u Wanted to ask you if I could use part of the video from svb break video for my channel jaros Billiards I'd appreciate it

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I'm glad to hear it. Feel free to use a short excerpt from my SVB break video as long as you acknowledge the source (DrDaveBilliards) in the video and with a link in the video description.

  • @jarosbilliards6074

    @jarosbilliards6074

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DrDaveBilliards thank u I sure will Have a great weekend

  • @PoolProblems
    @PoolProblems7 ай бұрын

    Doc - hows Sam stroke work going? I see she has the same issue as I do, trying to avoid the chest, driving the cue around. The cue goes to the left and then to the right. Any ideas on how to fix that? I recently uploaded a video documenting how this has been an issue for me for several years.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    7 ай бұрын

    The easiest way to avoid the chest is to open the stance. It also helps to have the forearm vertical with the grip hand away from the body. For more info, see the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stance/

  • @ACT-sn9zk
    @ACT-sn9zk Жыл бұрын

    ok dr dave, thank you. when can you review alex higgins stroke style? I really admire his playing style

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    I have a really long list of videos I want to work on, but analyzing pro strokes would be fun to do some day.

  • @johnhester4024
    @johnhester4024 Жыл бұрын

    Could you do deflection video for slow speed shots with the same cues and tips please.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    I test a range of cues in my "CUE TESTING for Cue Ball Deflection, And PREDATOR REVO Carbon Fiber Shaft SIZE EFFECTS" video at both slow and fast speeds: kzread.info/dash/bejne/c6BmyduJl6rSgMo.html

  • @chrisparker3227
    @chrisparker3227 Жыл бұрын

    Dr Dave I saw a post where people say clapping the playing bed on a slate table close to a slow rolling cue ball doesn't help slow it down some could you do a video about it if it does or doesn't help

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, the effect would be much too small to worry about. I honestly don't think it is worth a video. Tapping could actually speed up the ball; but again, the effect would be much too small to make any real difference. Regardless, a player should not tap on a table while balls are moving. That could be considered a form of "outside interference," which is a foul.

  • @chrisparker3227

    @chrisparker3227

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DrDaveBilliards could you make a video about it being a foul because the people in the post also say it's not a foul

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chrisparker3227 I didn't say it is a foul. I said it could be considered a form of "outside interference, (which would be a foul if it were considered as such).

  • @bigpoppapump620
    @bigpoppapump6208 ай бұрын

    Sandy’s got the orange crush

  • @planetscore
    @planetscore5 ай бұрын

    Don't know if that's related but I am very inconsistent. On a good day I hit 12+ balls on average in a row on a large table with tight pockets, testing equal offense. Then there are days, although rare, I average just 3. I try to focus on my fundamentals, stroke, follow through, grip but seem to consistently miss on those days. It seems like my vision centre changed on that day because I have one particular spot on my chin I always use and long shots seem to be way off. It's like I lost all my talent to feel the shot that day. I am as back to be a total beginner that very day despite of thousands of hours of playing and practicing pool and even playing league 15 years ago. Any ideas what causes this inconsistency? Is this common among better players?

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    5 ай бұрын

    Inconsistency is almost always due to poor fundamentals: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/fundamentals/ Although, the mental game could also be a factor: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/mental/

  • @planetscore

    @planetscore

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@DrDaveBilliards thanks will look at the material. Stupid question there. 😂 Could be vision centre is actually changing and dependent on the day? For info: I have a very dominant right eye and no 3D vision due to a weak left eye owing to an accident as a child. It doesn't seem to have an impact on my game though. At an an amateur level I am very good performingl though. I can't remember losing match against any recreational player for many years. Aiming is equally good/bad for both long and short shots. So is missing. Having said that I seem to have a similar pocketing rate for both long and short shots. It seems to be more an issue of "seeing the angle" as a good friend of mine used to say. That feel you have when you know you are going to hit. Why I think my vision centre changes depending on the day? Since I am 100% right eye dominant I have the cue right under it at the chin where there is a small bone dip. This is the vision centre I tested and confirmed. When I practice straight long shots it seems to work very well with pocketing on average 14/20 across the table straight into the corner pocket. Today I missed almost all. These days seem to come once in a blue moon I am at a loss explaining this inconsistency in my game.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    5 ай бұрын

    @@planetscore Your ideal vision center position is not always related to which eye is dominant or not. You should carefully check it using the procedure in the first video here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/eyes/vision-center/ As long as your head angle and gaze direction (face squareness) does not change, I don't think your "vision center" should change.

  • @fabianmarquezc
    @fabianmarquezc Жыл бұрын

    Someone please explain to me why is better the OB focus during and after final stroke 🙏🏻

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    It helps keep your focus on and cue aligned with the aiming line. For more info, see the videos and other stuff here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/eyes/pattern/

  • @walterreedjr6762
    @walterreedjr6762 Жыл бұрын

    Mine needs work Quite often I run into an issue right before contact with the cue ball. I see where I want to contact the cue ball, go through a few practice strokes and I just miss where I want to contact the cue ball

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope the video helps you find your issues.

  • @Busboo
    @Busboo8 ай бұрын

    Hi Dr. Dave. how would you describe Muhammad Soufi's arm and stroke? Isn't it unorthodox with his bending right arm?

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    8 ай бұрын

    Many pros have "unorthodox" strokes, but if you work hard at something and are consistent (and have a little natural talent), any technique can be mastered. For more examples, see the beginning and end of my "10 Secrets of a GOOD STROKE in Pool" video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJmOsq5_h5azcso.html

  • @VinayPai
    @VinayPai Жыл бұрын

    At 5:32 it looks like Aloysius Yapp's elbow sticks out like a bit of chicken wing. Is that just an illusion added by the camera? Or is it one of those situations where a top pro has practiced enough to get good results without "perfect" form?

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    It is out just a tad (the camera view makes it look worse than it actually is); but because he starts with the cue tip very close to the CB and keeps his elbow still during the stroke into the CB, it is not an issue.

  • @kostaszontoner
    @kostaszontoner Жыл бұрын

    as far as the eyes being level to the shot and the head being square to the shot, if you play with your face angled and the eyes not level, won't the brain correct everything automatically with a little practice and give you a correct shot picture?i think the main thing is to find your vision center regardless of the face being square or the eyes being level

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    One can learn to aim well with any face and eye alignment, but a square and level setup does offer some advantages per the info in this article: billiards.colostate.edu/bd_articles/2011/july11.pdf

  • @kostaszontoner

    @kostaszontoner

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DrDaveBilliards i'm a little confused. if you don't set up square and level, does the brain work out the correct picture or not? because you say one can learn to aim very well with any head alignment, does that mean that with practice, the brain works everything out and gives you a correct shot picture? or does the brain get used to aim very well with the wrong shot picture?

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kostaszontoner If you play for a long time with your head not in your personal vision center position, your brain can learn to aim correctly with the wrong shot picture (assuming your alignment is consistent and you put in enough trial-and-error practice).

  • @kostaszontoner

    @kostaszontoner

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DrDaveBilliards ok thanks dave.

  • @kostaszontoner

    @kostaszontoner

    9 ай бұрын

    hi dave after working on my visual alignment for a couple of weeks,my game has improved and my potting has become more consistent so thanks for that! but i still have a question and it maybe a little difficult to answer because i'm a very analytical person : if you find your personal vision center position, will you be seeing the shot picture, (cue,CB,OB and pocket) correctly on just about every shot?and will you be seeing the cue,CB,OB and pocket perfectly straight on every straight-in shot? or will you still have some small optical illusions like sometimes not perceiving the true center of the cue ball as you get down on the ball or sometimes perceiving the cue a tiny bit angled towards the shot line?

  • @JosePolanco-my7nb
    @JosePolanco-my7nb Жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @christhornberry7502
    @christhornberry7502 Жыл бұрын

    Every time I shoot hard I hit myself in the side is there a way to fix this

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    The videos and info here might help: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stance/

  • @christhornberry7502

    @christhornberry7502

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DrDaveBilliards thank you

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    @@christhornberry7502 You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)

  • @drincmusic2769
    @drincmusic2769 Жыл бұрын

    sam's shooting around something that's attached to her body that would hurt to hit. I just watched a video with jasmine ouschan explaining that to us that women actually might need a different stroke to accommodate for body differences.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    We considered and discussed this. Samm’s issue was instead with the motions described in the video. She has no trouble with bringing her hand to her chest.

  • @drincmusic2769

    @drincmusic2769

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DrDaveBilliards ok ok

  • @TimeForTrim
    @TimeForTrim4 ай бұрын

    Why does it look like every single person tightens that grip during that stroke, even Dr Dave

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    4 ай бұрын

    ... probably because the fingers close as the stroke goes forward (without adding gripping pressure). For more info and detailed demonstrations, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/grip/technique/

  • @darkinertia2
    @darkinertia210 ай бұрын

    after watching jasmine ouschauns video, do you think sams crooked stroke might be from, you know, being a woman with a chest? lol never thought about that until she said it

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    10 ай бұрын

    No. We considered that when we were filming and discussing things, and it was not the issue. She has no trouble with the finish position on her chest. The problem is the torso turn and bridge arm motion described in the video.

  • @bryceantelope2879
    @bryceantelope287911 ай бұрын

    Dr Dave be thicc

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    11 ай бұрын

    … and sexy: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g4CprrKGc9PWdpc.html

  • @bigpoppapump620
    @bigpoppapump6208 ай бұрын

    Randy’s got the 8

  • @sman7198
    @sman7198 Жыл бұрын

    why "grip too far back" is so bad?

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    It is better to have the forearm perpendicular to the cue at CB contact because it results in the tip is moving more straight at the CB (resulting in better tip contact point accuracy).

  • @sman7198

    @sman7198

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DrDaveBilliards Thank you for your polite answer. I understand very well.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sman7198 You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)

  • @zanethind
    @zanethind5 ай бұрын

    For me I already have a prestroke chicken wing it's just too natural for me

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    5 ай бұрын

    As long as you keep your shoulder and elbow still during the stroke, and you have the cue tip close to the CB at address, it doesn’t really matter.

  • @zanethind

    @zanethind

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@DrDaveBilliards👍

  • @jimmyleung4387_official
    @jimmyleung4387_official Жыл бұрын

    Hi Dr. Dave, some snooker players bend their cues during the last backswing before the stroke. This is due to their arm and hand raising during the last backswing, which forces the cue to bend against their chin. It seems that nobody who knows this skill wants to talk about it in public. Would you be willing to spend some time studying it and then make a video to explain it in detail? kzread.info/dash/bejne/oZ12ybyccpC_caQ.html

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn’t call it a “skill.” It is more of a side effect resulting from keeping the elbow still with a low stance and a long backstroke.

  • @jimmyleung4387_official

    @jimmyleung4387_official

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DrDaveBilliards My guess is: 1.Keep the cue touching the chin. 2.Keep the head low and still. 3.Let elbow raise at the last backswing (yes, they do this, different from the classic "keep the cue parallel to the table") In order to do these 3 things at the same time, the cue must be bent. I call it a skill because it requires training and practice to do so. I found no players used this technique before 2013, which means that those 10y professionals using this technique nowadays, have had to change their form after 10 to 20+ years of playing. And never a youtube snooker coach teach about it.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jimmyleung4387_official The fixed-elbow “pendulum stroke” is common in pool: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stroke/pendulum-piston/

  • @jimmyleung4387_official

    @jimmyleung4387_official

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DrDaveBilliards Yes, common in snooker as well. From the year of Joe Davis, Steve Davis, to nowadays, the standard form is fixed-elbow, pendulum stroke, head still, cue parallel to the table. But in the past ten years, more and more players changed to raise the cue at the last backswing, and bend the cue. No player bent their cue ten years before. So, why?

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jimmyleung4387_official With a pendulum stroke, the cue must go up when the grip hand goes back and up, which would cause the cue flex on the chin. With a "piston stroke," used by many snooker players, the elbow moves downs during the backstroke so the cue moves straight like a piston (resulting in no cue flex on the chin). I am not a snooker person, so I can't comment on why snooker strokes or some players might have changed over the years. It is possible they decided better tip contact point accuracy can be achieved with a pendulum stroke (as opposed to a piston stroke).

  • @fnaah_au
    @fnaah_au Жыл бұрын

    i'd be willing to wager that Samm's follow-through is 'bent' because of something that Jasmin Ouschan talked about a few weeks ago. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lX16w7OigtXFn5c.html her cueing hand looks like it's curving to go around her body.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    We considered that, but it not what is going on here. The bend in the follow through is due to the motions mentioned in the video. She has no problem bringing her hand into her chest.

  • @fnaah_au

    @fnaah_au

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DrDaveBilliards fair enough! :)

  • @jocu475
    @jocu475 Жыл бұрын

    As someone with seemingly unfixable chicken wing , thank you for this video I just got done practicing for 8 hours and I’m so frustrated

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    Жыл бұрын

    The video info under “How can I get rid of elbow drop?” Here might help: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stroke/elbow-drop/

  • @clarkcowan3984
    @clarkcowan39849 ай бұрын

    You showed good errors here, but not how to correct them.

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    9 ай бұрын

    The videos and links here are a good place to start: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/fundamentals/

  • @clarkcowan3984

    @clarkcowan3984

    9 ай бұрын

    @@DrDaveBilliards Wow! I never expected a response...much less quickly... Thanks Doctor Dave. Tons of respect to you!

  • @clarkcowan3984

    @clarkcowan3984

    9 ай бұрын

    Two videos in and loving the refresh. I'm very glad you emphasize that it is fun. If it isn't then why do it? Thanks for all you give, Dr Dave!!

  • @DrDaveBilliards

    @DrDaveBilliards

    9 ай бұрын

    You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)

  • @clarkcowan3984

    @clarkcowan3984

    9 ай бұрын

    @@DrDaveBilliards How do we make this hit the mainstream? This is a critical network of knowledge... Borderline APA 4-5... Honestly

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