What did you think of Vecna? Let us know in the comments. For all the details and easter eggs you missed this season, check out this video!: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dGip09GvZ5W4lrQ.html

@harjonotanuwira8226

2 жыл бұрын

1st

@GracefulWarrior1

2 жыл бұрын

2nd

@Reaperguy67

2 жыл бұрын

@@harjonotanuwira8226 guess what. A pinned comment does not count

@Reaperguy67

2 жыл бұрын

@@GracefulWarrior1 it doesn't matter if you are

@lebonk8081

2 жыл бұрын

not as trashy as you guys

I was skeptical about the new villain but they really tied it in well ..that episode with Max gave me chills

@marvdatboi

2 жыл бұрын

I had faith that they’d make an awesome villian

@zacharyberridge7239

2 жыл бұрын

I have enjoyed this season so far. Pleasantly surprised. 1 is still the best, 2 is the worst, and 3 was fun.

@NitwitNick1302

2 жыл бұрын

And tears

@joeyweinstock2272

2 жыл бұрын

I teared up

@bobcatbix

2 жыл бұрын

That episode made me say MAX! DONT EVER SCARE ME LIKE THAT AGAIN DAMNIT! 😆

The moment where Max breaks free of Vecna’s control is probably my favorite moment of this season so far

@rtotheeeeee2804

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. This was the best stranger things character moment and the best action scene was seeing the demagorgon slaughter those russian prisoners

@kakarrotchronic

2 жыл бұрын

Straight plot armor

@mguap702

2 жыл бұрын

Yea I def thought she was gon die even after the music started playing cuz she was still tied

@natelecoure9379

2 жыл бұрын

11 vs 1 just hit different

@godhallelujahgaming7947

2 жыл бұрын

That's the scene that made me stop watching this season, that's where they could have given stranger things the chance to finally reach Game of thrones status, but they decided to save a protagonist 🤷🏿‍♂️

I was so shocked to discover that Henry Creel is One who also became Vecna. All three combine into One.

@jordon6411

2 жыл бұрын

duh?

@RadX_98

2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t get it, what do you mean? Care to explain?

@isaacharvison5323

2 жыл бұрын

It was kind of obvious all the monsters were after 11 lol it was someone close to her 😅😅

@baileighb

2 жыл бұрын

I was surprised too, I knew him being her “mentor” in the rainbow room had to be something more but wasn’t expecting that. To those who caught on good for you 😅

@426AM

2 жыл бұрын

001 is the little boy who grows to become Vecna after 11 sends him to the Under

So I'll admit the first half of season 4 was a little slow in some parts, but I really enjoyed 11's story and Vecna's story, I thought they built up his character well over the 7 episodes, and I really like the actor they got to play him, I look forword to seeing more in the next few episodes of season 4! 😊

@TreeHouse2023

2 жыл бұрын

the Russia part was a nice throw back to the Demogorgon tho...

@valhalax25

2 жыл бұрын

I was a bit skeptical after watching episode 3. But the pieces started to fall into place. Great story development. Initially, I thought this was something completely new, and technically it was but I liked that knowing about El’s past was tied up with this new villain at the same time explaining how and why El opened the gate in events prior to what we saw on season 1.

@markc8329

2 жыл бұрын

"first half" bro the second part is literally only 2 episodes

@valhalax25

2 жыл бұрын

@@markc8329 2 long ass episodes. Combined is like watching the extended version of Lord of the Rings: Return of the King. Plus all the other episodes have been above the 1hr mark. They have done a good job, thus far.

@nicolepershall3419

2 жыл бұрын

@@valhalax25 Ya poll mb I’m B Mmm n ok lol mnlmm I’m poop

I did not see that coming. Jamie did a great job as Number 1 and Vecna.

@Gaia_Seraphina

2 жыл бұрын

I knew "young Grindelwald" wouldn't be the good guy.

@danwarner7816

2 жыл бұрын

Well I did believe it until very last episode where eleven did ask why is he helping. I started have doubts as he didn't explain that really happened to no.1

@jellisocrazy

Жыл бұрын

When he first appear in her memories I just got a feeling he was not good lol. I just keep saying something is off and then when they kept revealing who he is I was like wow I knew something was off but they twisted it beautifully

@danwarner7816

Жыл бұрын

@@jellisocrazy yeah same cus he did give hints towards last episode. I originally thought eleven was poessessed by vecna during massacre but never expected Henry to be son of Victor creel good twist

I love how they name the villains after D&D characters. He's not actually named Vecna they just named him that. So cool. It's also cool how you can tell who the villain will be in the season seeing as how they usually name them by playing D&D in the first episode.

@RiverCrystal

2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: The Hand of Vecna is an actual artifact in DnD lore. His enlarged hand in ST wasn't an accident.

"Who knew something so small could cause so much trouble." Caught that double meaning hearing it a second time. Nicely done.

@Therealjujueats

2 жыл бұрын

That line also reminded me of Buffy the vampire slayer when willow took the bullet from Buffy

@somerandomguy9891

2 жыл бұрын

​@@Therealjujueats In my case, it reminded me of a line of Boromir in the first Lord of the rings movie.

@Therealjujueats

2 жыл бұрын

@@somerandomguy9891 I so need to watch lord of the rings I haven’t seen them

My heart was pumping so hard and fast when Max was running from the dream world. After a few episodes I thought one of the main characters was getting the axe due to how dark the season was going.

@ChatiseE

2 жыл бұрын

still could happen

@valhalax25

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChatiseE my bet is on Steve to die anytime soon.

@Culley91

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChatiseE lmao Facts The season ain’t over till it’s over 😩😩

@PotatoCruncher12

2 жыл бұрын

Nancy is still with Vecna ☠️

@valhalax25

2 жыл бұрын

@@PotatoCruncher12 what’s your point?

I actually really enjoyed his backstory, and his arc with 11 manipulating her into helping him was quite well done, and I also sort of felt sympathetic to his ideology. If they tie it together well in the last two episodes he could be a truly great villain

@ralliedcookies4403

2 жыл бұрын

Ur comment has 11 likes

I loved Crissy. I thought Eddie and Crissy could’ve been a great story line. But Sadie Sinks performance here is Emmy worthy. She really gets her moment in the sun this season so far. Stellar performance.

@426AM

2 жыл бұрын

Me too she was cool man!

Just a little bit of D&D lore: Vecna the Archlich has many titles including the Undying King, the Lord of the Rotted Tower and the Master of the Spider Throne. He’s also known as “The Whispered One”. Vecna in Stranger Things also drew on these titles. He is resides in his rotted away home in the Upside Down upon a spidery web and he is quite literally the whispered 001.

@FLUXXEUS

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget "Vecnards" (If you know you know) 🙃

@PrinceoftheAbyss

2 жыл бұрын

Oh-ho! That was clever. Well done!

@ignightor8577

2 жыл бұрын

I have a question,is there anymore DnD bosses that could relate or come in future Stranger Things?

@davewire87

2 жыл бұрын

@@ignightor8577 I’ve always thought the Beholder might make a good boss for Stranger Things. It’s one of the most iconic monsters from the franchise with one adorning the cover of the 5th edition monster manual. There’s also Lolth the Spider Queen, the evil goddess of the Drow; Orcus the Demon Lord of the Undead from whom it is rumored that Vecna learned the secrets of becoming a Lich. Along with the Demogorgon, Orcus and Lolth adorn the covers of the 4th edition Monster Manuals. Other popular D&D villains include the vampire Strahd von Zarovich, the death knight Lord Soth, Venger, the villain from the old D&D cartoon, Tiamat, Asmodeus, Tharazduin, and a whole host of deities demon lords and devils.

@ignightor8577

2 жыл бұрын

@@davewire87 Thank you❤

Amazing season tying all the seasons together. I love that we now know what lead 11 to open the gate.

Loved the similarities to the scene in “The Watchmen” when doctor manhattan’s origins are explained. Same song, same tone, it’s crazy! Love it.

@ggthewhale

2 жыл бұрын

Plus the clockmaker callout from steve hearkens back to the same chapter name in the watchmen graphic novel

@RadX_98

2 жыл бұрын

Good catch !!!!

@Sparky-kn6up

2 жыл бұрын

Yesss as soon as prophecies started playing in the background I got watchmen vibes. Ep 7 was peak

@bachnguyen7411

2 жыл бұрын

OH MY GOD I WAS WONDERING WHY IT SEEMED SO FAMILIAR

vecna is the best villain in stranger things its not even close. 3 completely different characters all put into 1 absolutely insane writing from the brothers 🤌

@uruacufutsal1

2 жыл бұрын

I still like Billy controlled by the Mind Flayer more

@yashee3421

2 жыл бұрын

@@uruacufutsal1 u like a puppet over a fully developed villain Yhman makes sense bro 👌

@michaelbarrett8141

2 жыл бұрын

@@yashee3421 vecna is also a puppet he is a general for the Mind flayer. Do you really think a Lich is more powerful then a being who can control minds and overpower all other lifeforms? He is not even that great as a villain he is a Human who became trough reserach and science a supernatural monster. Then he get Banned into the upside Down. And because of that he dispise humans and want to create his own world. Im sorry but the Mindflayer is far more interesting then him.

@pxdstudios

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelbarrett8141 well actually the actors acting upon the actualism, actually actualize the actors of the acted upon, therefore activating the actuaries. At least in my actual opinion anyway.

@Amy-co9to

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelbarrett8141 vecna isn’t a puppet, that was just dustins theory. we won’t find out what’s really going on until the next part of season 4

It wasn’t vecna being 1 that got me, it was him also being Henry creel. 🤯🤯

He killed his mother wanting to help him because she feared not just him but his future of being outcasted from others and be bullied for being different. He killed people that cared about him and punsih them for the mistake of loving him. His sister did nothing to him and still killed her.

We don't talk enough about how both young and older Henry look so alike. High five casting department!

For those still theorizing about the hierarchy, the Duffer Bros once again gave us exposition through Dustin. The Mind Flayer is an ancient primordial psychic entity that is the collective hive mind of all life in the Upside Down, a dark mirror dimension parallel to our own. Henry Creel aka 001, and Vecna was sent to the Upside Down in 1979 by 11/Jane. There he got burnt by lightning strikes. The being we call Vecna is Henry/001 becoming part of the hive of the Mind Flayer. Increasing his strength and abilities over the years, with the help of the Mind Flayer (the tentacle/spider legs coming from the MF) he healed and became this “dark wizard.” The creatures of the Upside Down, like Vecna have memories and actions of their own but they remain part of the super organism called the Mind Flayer. Vecna is his own person, but now part of the hive, and as Dustin said is the Mind Flayer’s 5-Star General. Manipulating his desire for vengeance and psychic abilities that can be used to open portals. The only weakness we’ve seen the Mind Flayer has (other than heat) is that it can’t crossover to our side fully. Which is why they’ve been able to defeat it’s vessels. Were it able to physically enter our world, not just psychically, it would be a huge world crisis and likely the plot of season 5.

@johnsonbaroncaveler6634

2 жыл бұрын

heh, ngl, i read MF as MoFo, and honestly i find that funny

@jameshiawo2771

2 жыл бұрын

I thought this was the final season?

@DanielLopez-fj9yz

2 жыл бұрын

Love this theory

@kanishkaupadhyay6119

2 жыл бұрын

There will be no season 5

@weabae5910

2 жыл бұрын

He isnt just a dark wizard he is a dark time wizard, “it is your time,____” the clock and the ticking. My theory is that vecna curses people with the dark wizard time bs from way back in the past like a hit list that will come into effect years later so you have virtually no chance to stop it. Thats why the last day in that girls diary in the upside-down was way back in s1 with the demogorgon and will. I think they basically defeat vecna not long after he was created because time flow can seperate between the worlds. For them vecnas been alive for years “dormant” and then begins attacking but in reality it is an attack from the past that they have already stopped, but not before they could figure it out and stop the inevitable deaths

Vecna’s a great villain - the monster is inspired by 80s movie monsters but the man is definitely based on real life serial killers. Absolutely chilling.

Vecna is a really awesome villain! Terrifying but also a really great backstory. This has been a really great season so far and I can't wait for the rest of it

I just finished Vol. One, and after watching that last episode, I can say for certainty that Vecna is now one of my favorite villains. I mean, the scene with Max in episode four was fantastic, but that whole monologue in the origin story in episode seven absolutely sealed the deal. It showed him not just an homage to Freddy Kruger, but also a nihilistic psychopath worthy of joining the Villain Hall of Fame. Right up there with Joker and Thanos, baby!

@DanielLopez-fj9yz

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn’t of said it better

@s1d3k1ckRO

2 жыл бұрын

Darth Sidious sends his regards.

@papa_ice_water

Жыл бұрын

You’re pathetic

This whole part 1 is a slam dunk. The way they laid out the story and how it all came together at the end. The Duffer brothers are geniuses

I love how Freddie was an inspiration on the character and Robert Englund makes an appearance. I have to wonder if he was able to help develop Vecna at all

@janderson947

2 жыл бұрын

what character?

@codyosteen7878

2 жыл бұрын

@@janderson947 vecna

@janderson947

2 жыл бұрын

@@codyosteen7878 really that's Robert Englund I thought he would play vector creel?

@codyosteen7878

2 жыл бұрын

@@janderson947 no no no Robert did play victor creel. But part of the inspiration for vecna was Freddie. So with Robert being involved, I’m curious if he got to help with character development on vecna since he obviously was Freddie.

@janderson947

2 жыл бұрын

@@codyosteen7878 ohh got it my bad...😅

Really loved to see why 11 vs Vecna is not just most powerful things going against one another but is also personal to them. I really hope Vecna is the mind flayer in his complete form because, I don't see mind flayer can topping vecna in terms of motive.

The season started slow but the second half was amazing. Always thought Vecna was a great villain, we never had a vocal monster villain, always just a screaming ugly looking thing😂 but Vecna you can actually have dialogue and a deep story behind him which cleaned up nicely at the end

How is no one talking about Papa?… he’s been attacked multiple times with very little damage or injuries…I’d say he has some powers of his own…

@weirdlyevolvedcreature4828

2 жыл бұрын

Or just plot convenience

@AceFotinos

2 жыл бұрын

you make a keen observation I give you that, but chances are is Weird is right, likely plot convenience. Would be a nice twist if you're right!

What i find even more creepy is that vecna looks like 001 and he is but you only know until the last minute and you realize that the person who seemed so kind to help EL escape killed his family and just two random kids not to mention the fact that he still has his tattoo on his wrist makes me think that vecna is what a human would look like if they were born/lived in the upside down

@Culley91

2 жыл бұрын

Right makes me wonder can Vecna Change himself to human form passing through the upside down portal

@Briqnvr2

Жыл бұрын

Yeah and if you think about it isnt he a prime example of what humans would look like in the upside down

@maria-melek

Жыл бұрын

@@Culley91Holy sh!t what if he can? 😳

While Vecna is interesting, we all know the real villain is Angela.

@Marguerite21

2 жыл бұрын

Well, both Vecna and Angela are villains. What makes Henry Creel the villain is that he killed his family members. He also killed all the kids in Hawkens Lab, and he tried to kill El. Now he's terrorizing Hawkens and has already killed some people. El's friends are in grave danger, and she'll have to face Vecna in Vol 2. What's interesting about Vecna/Henry Creel is that he's some kind of psychopath. The new Stranger Things Season 4 should tell us more on why he chose the path of evil. It's not just because he was drawn to the spiders. It has to be something else. Something very bad must have happened to him before his family moved him into a brand new home. There has to be another screwed up reason on why he hates humanity. It is very sad for someone who was born a psychopath. But I'm not forgetting that a psychopath does have a choice. To try to be good, or to be harmful. Henry did have a loving family, and he chose to turn on them. He chose the path of evil at a very young age.

@goeasy8916

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marguerite21 uhm, ur too serious lmfao

@goeasy8916

2 жыл бұрын

@@Marguerite21 uhm, ur too serious lmfao

@estebangutierrez160

2 жыл бұрын

(Spoilers so do not read until you have finished part 1 of season 4) Even though El did take it too far with Angela, Angela did had it coming after all the harassment she did to El.

@RiverCrystal

2 жыл бұрын

@@estebangutierrez160 Yeah I agree, she was all "surprised Pikachu" when El finally lashed out, but like, what did she expect?

The soundtrack when 001 is explaining to eleven reminds me a lot the soundtrack of whatchmen

@bentallman4828

2 жыл бұрын

It’s funny you said that, both songs are by Phillip Glass off of the same album

@johnnygrandomstuff5882

2 жыл бұрын

@@bentallman4828 wow didn’t know that, it just sounded so similar, anyways I love it 😁

@poorwhitepeoplearefailures2396

2 жыл бұрын

Funny, I literally just came to that realization a few moments before seeing your comment. Same music of when Dr Manhattan talks about his origin

Hey guys, I just realized that in Season 4: "Dear Billy" Max hit Vecna in his neck in order for her to escape his grasp. The same area that 001 had that "tracking device" in which of course limited his powers!

@geoffreyprodapro2245

2 жыл бұрын

Nice observation,I really didn’t notice that so gj

@edwardomaino

2 жыл бұрын

the tracker was on the left side when he was 001/Henry under Dr. Brenner and 11 got it out, and max ripped at the right side.

@DubABattery

2 жыл бұрын

Nice observation. But she pulled the vine or vain thing on his neck. She did not hit him but still.

Thanks for mentioning Gellert Grindelwald. His and Vecna's character are super super similar. You can literally switch their dialogues and it still fits

I loved the reveal, the last episode was awesome cant wait for part 2. Super sad origin, left me with my jaw dropped

@NuggyPoundy1

2 жыл бұрын

dont u mean broken?

I love how they finally gave us the unanswered to the secret lab and all the number kids. I was always curious to who was #1. I had a feeling since season 2 he/her was being saved for later.

@novenzef

2 жыл бұрын

I still have some questions about the mastermind of the lab - What kind of doctor dr. Brenner is, like how tf did he know something unusual with Henry Creel? What is his origin story? - He survived the lab massacre and he survived the Demogorgon attack in season 1. He must be a superhuman too, right? Right? - Where are all the Demogorgons and Demodogs when Steve, Nancy, Eddie, and Robin were in Upside Down? All we see are Demobirds - How tf does a Demogorgon end up in Russia if the gate were closed in previous seasons?

@HemiJB91

2 жыл бұрын

@@novenzef he's mom figured it out at he's young age he was behind the attacks on them. That's how Dr Brenner met and took him in as #1. They couldn't control him so they made clones of #1 DNA and that's how the other #s came along including EL. We don't know how Henry got he's powers but they still give us enough details about what the lab was all about. The Russia part, they can make a whole season explaining that side of the story but it doesn't seem important to care about Russia.

@sammyofficial1

2 жыл бұрын

@@novenzef that last question i was wondering also. and the third question i also wondered. for the third question i think demodogs transformed into demogorgons and the demogorgons transformed into demobats

@ironboyjunior8509

9 ай бұрын

@@novenzef to answer the second question, vecna was controlling the demogorgon through the mind flayer's hivemind so the demogorgon didn't kill him and spared doctor brenner in the end

I was shocked at Vecna's true identity. In episode 1, the ending was very very terrifying. I was glad that he wasn't working for the mind flayer as we had that as the villain for 2 seasons. Though his Back story and his abilities are Freddy Krueger related but also unique kind of

Vecna’s story reminds me of two fictional characters with similar stories. Tom Riddle/ Voldemort from Harry Potter and Amon/Noatak from Legend of Korra.

@shawnpayne2497

2 жыл бұрын

Vecna/001/Henry Creel/Peter Ballard ____________________________________ •Yeah, especially with them both starting off as normal looking humans then not looking anything like human but only having some human resemblance. •And with them always having a very different point of view then other kids and there always being something wrong with them. •And Vecna was also being referred to as a “dark wizard” and a “spell-caster..” •And both don’t even have a nose. •Also Jamie Campbell Bower who plays Peter Ballard is also a very prominent role in the Wizarding World Franchise (him playing Young Gellert Grindelwald)

@joshuadumais6312

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I got the voldemort vibes from him too

@shawnpayne2497

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuadumais6312 Yeah, definitely the duffer brothers did great giving homage to very iconic movie villains like Freddy Kruger, Michael Myers, Jason Vorhees and Pennywise the Dancing Clown.

@DiamondWoodStudios

2 жыл бұрын

also getting huge Anakin/ Darth Vader vibes from him!!

@bernadethpoths7264

2 жыл бұрын

Well I'm been getting grindelwald vibes from him since the actor played the young version of grindelwald

I feel like Vecna is one of the greatest villains of all, he uses peoples fears and psychologically plays with you and kills you when he wants.

@dmin5782

2 жыл бұрын

No offense, but there are countless villains in both fiction and real life who do exactly that, but better.

@chris220293

2 жыл бұрын

@@dmin5782 max’s nearly death scene had me on the edge of my seat which no villain for years has got me even sat up from my seat

@dmin5782

2 жыл бұрын

@@chris220293 Sure, it depends on your preference, but still, there are multiple villains who do this more effectively than Vecna.

@RedLaneArts

2 жыл бұрын

@@dmin5782 Yeah,There is Agent Smith but we have to Appreciate the Duffers for writing a Great villain in 7 episodes.

I was pleasantly surprised at how frequently I was actually scared/frightened this season. I'm a horror officianado so it usually takes quite a lot to frighten me but something about Vecna's voice and the way he kills people by contorting them really creeped me out. Never thought I'd say that about Stranger Things but I couldn't be happier for it!

looking at Vecna's character, he really is the "Anakin" of Stranger Things I could really make an essay about how they are the same

@RiverCrystal

2 жыл бұрын

He even killed the younglings!

Jamie Campbell Bower is a great actor. I'm suprised he doesn't get more interesting roles. I hope with this role he will be on the spotlight!

My favorite part was when Steve got dragged through watergate and went absolute hulk mode on the bat monsters🤘🏻🤘🏻

Best season so far

@gman6862

2 жыл бұрын

Giving the baddy a voice is what gives this season that little bit extra!

Right at 7:20, the scratch on 1’s face, is the exact same shape as the lights were arranged on the board when dustin stole it from the little girl to contact Steve and Eddie and them in the upside down

I always find villains like this interesting. Their theories and philosophies aren't necessarily wrong but it's the violent way they go about teaching others them that makes them villains. The ideas he talks about have a very Buddhist flavor to them and there are valid philosophical bases to them. The Buddha taught about how all of our structures and "norms" are illusions. But in the mythology he didn't go around killing people to show them lol There are ways to teach these philosophies without hating humanity. In the end we are all victims of our cages.

@itsnotme987

2 жыл бұрын

He seems pretty messed up And he doesnt have any scene where anyone is remotely bullying or harassing(you know what i mean) And starts on animals You sure you dont need to talk to someone?

@lopirobinson1991

2 жыл бұрын

@@itsnotme987 his violent side is messed up. Read about Buddhism. Things he says, minus the humans are vile stuff, is founded in many philosophies. I said he was wrong in the way he acted. I wasn't sticking up for his actions. But villains can speak truth. They often do. It's the way they go about enacting that truth that make them either a villain or a hero. Many philosophies teach that time is a construct and not inherent or absolute. One of the things he spoke about was time. I don't advocate murdering people. But bad guys in stories and mythology often say things that are true, regardless if they're the bad guy.

@dmin5782

2 жыл бұрын

@@itsnotme987 He's simply saying that Henry's philosophy is not really wrong, but his actions are. Reading is not that hard.

This season is so good. Better than any horror movie out there and Jamie! Gosh Jamie is so damn good at playing the bad guy. I’m just a little concerned about the gang. I really hope they all will make it to season 5

Another unanswered question is: “Where’s Kali in all of this?”

@pimpXBT

2 жыл бұрын

bing chilling

@jeffbrehove2614

2 жыл бұрын

We riot if she doesn't cameo in volume 2

@tabbaldwin3165

2 жыл бұрын

We need her story!

@valhalax25

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffbrehove2614 in the many scenes El is walking through the hallways, you know how sometimes the shot points at a door or you can see the number of the doors? In those shots you never see Kali’s door number. But if 001 killed everyone and these events are what lead to the gate opening the first time and Eleven escaping, how the hell did Kali escape? Was she strong enough to make 001 see a vision of her bones snapping/diying and then she made a run for it? Too many questions! 😄

@jeffbrehove2614

2 жыл бұрын

@@valhalax25 Regardless, unless that spinoff around her and her gang is for real confirmed, she needs closure.

vecna ended up on stranger things after vox machina sealed him behind the divine gates

I love how Freddy Krueger was the inspiration and they have Robert Englund in this season

7:31 This has to be the most true monologue ever said by an antagonist.

Also curious is when 001 first gets put in the upside down. He gets dissolved by 11 but is whole when drifting through the upside down. Also there is ground on both sides. Like the upside down is actually space between realities/dimensions. But time there changed it. I'm betting the Mindflayer came from taking over one of those sides. Meets Vecna inbetween the realities and team up to move into the next one. The one with 11. They didn't know they could breach until 11 reached the Demogorgan in the Void in season 1 which showed them the way.

I read that Soteria is the Greek goddess of safety and preservation from harm. So the device that suppressed One’s abilities was given the perfect name so that he couldn’t harm anyone.

4:33 When Vecna sat down next to Eleven and said, "001 Learned sitting right here", I was so proud of myself for figuring it out before the reveal. Unfortunately, it made the reveal a lot less shocking when it did happen.

Episode 4 this season was magnificent that’s all

@junki9718

2 жыл бұрын

And 7

JUST WATCHED HIS ORIGIN EPISODE YESYERDAY , I WAS BLOWN AWAY

This new villain in Stranger Things season 4 is based on Freddy Krueger,Pinhead,Pennywise,Chucky,Michael Myers,Jason Vorhees,Leatherface,and Ghostface combined with Darth Vader,Lord Voldemort,and Dr.Manhattan.

@bernadethpoths7264

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget about grindelwald too

Thay sure as hell know how to name their villains, DEMOGORGAN MINDFLAYER VECNA

I have theory: Brenner said in the beginning: "What have you done" after El fought One Alot of people think that Brenner thinks El killed all of her brothers and sisters. But what if Brenner said that because he knew that One was going to be a dangerous threat after One manipulated El to remove the "tracker" from Ones neck. He knew they were planning an escape plan, he knew El is stronger than One. He knows how dangerous One is, what if he also tried to trap El with a device in her neck instead of getting killed by her brothers and sisters

@erickamakeeaina1649

2 жыл бұрын

That actually makes sense, hell given he would have to realize One was one and thus it would be easy to piece together things

I just finished Part 1 tonight and it was CRAZY!!! My mind was 🤯🤯!! They left us with a cliffhanger and they left us with information that was so important to the story line!!!

the vena vs max confrontation was my pick for the best moment of this season. The only way the Duffers could have made it better is by fading to black and then the credits before Max makes it out. That would be a fantastic cliffhanger to end the first half of the fourth season on.

As soon as I found season 4 was out I was on it faster than you could blink.

What a twist & what an actor 001 is 👏👏 This scene kinda reminded me of Tom Riddle(Voldemort) Duffer Brothers r doing what D&D (GameOfThrones) couldn't do 🔥🔥

Stranger Things is the best series I've ever watched. The cast, the emotions, constant suspence and thrill, funny characters, too. The last two episodes were mindblowing. Amazing.

That was one hell of a monologue, I overall liked the season but I did have some issues with the writing. This is a lot of exposition at one go but this actor ,Jamie, crushed it gave it 110% no doubt.

This show has made me want to play dnd

The wait was so worth it

Cool glad to see the thumbnail giving away the main antagonist right away. Havent had the chance to watch cause im catching up on other things and been busy at other times. Thanks WatchMojo

@ambereyedbabygirl

2 жыл бұрын

Right what assholes

Vecna’s the most interesting villain we’ve had, but for me that makes him slightly less scary. He’s less of a force of nature than characters like the mindflayer and the demogorgon which is why I’m hoping he wasn’t pulling the strings the whole time

GOD HE PLAYED THIS PART SO WELL, SHEESH I STILL GET GOOSEBUMPS

Pretty wild to think that usually shows fall off and suck in season 4 but stranger things just changed the gamem

Vecna has similar mentality as Thanos..

Since it's considered an homage to Nightmare on Elm Street, you should have mentioned that Robert Englund is actually IN this season!

@janderson947

2 жыл бұрын

what character?

@captainatom7632

2 жыл бұрын

@@janderson947 Victor Creel. Father of Vecna(Henry Creel).

@janderson947

2 жыл бұрын

@@captainatom7632 ik that was an awesome twist it all made sense....

I always found it convenient in horror shows and movies that evil is always slow-moving physically. I knew from the very beginning that Peter was an extremely evil entity. He even sounds evil in his first scene where he addresses Eleven. He sounds sinister in his greeting. He then tries to groom her. It's strange he never went after Brenner. Then, this obsession psychopaths have with spiders in fiction and real life has always been something so stupid. It's this obsession that proves how limited their minds really are. There are things far more lethal and scary, such as a parasites, diseases, humans, and so on. Humans do so many things that are far more terrifying, torturous and evil, than a bunch of spiders. Why eight couldn't find Brenner or why didn't one kill Brenner? Eight and El could fight Vecna and defeat him forever. Nancy was always better off with Steve, because he actually cares and loves her. And Will should have powers of Eleven and Eight, because he is the best of the group of four original characters. I think the trailer park is connected to Vecna.

When they finally revealed that 001 was vecna that was an incredible way to bring the connection of the upsidedown and 11 full circle what an incredible episode

It was my 🧠 had all these tabs open: I was suspicious of the helpful orderly, I clocked that the young Henry only went into a coma and didn't die after the malevolent 'spirit' attacked etc..but was nicely surprised when it all tied together- nicely done👌🏾

Anyone see a correlation with the music while Henry explaining his life and his infatuation with the grandfather clock, and Dr Manhattan with the same music assembling a watch? Maybe it's just me, but these creators are definatly fans of the writer Alan Moore who wrote the Watchmen novels and Zach Snyder's live action film. Loved Watchmen and found that interesting. I'm sure someone pointed that out, but still, pretty cool.

Finally, finally someone refers to the parallels between Henry/One/Vecna and Gellert Grindelwald !! \o/ I was getting desperate. Thank you and well done WatchMojo !

such a three way twist. I just thought monster from upside down steal El's power, cause I thought that no monster has done things like going into someone's mind before, as the show progress, it hinted right in the face, this blonde guy keeps showing up, he's must be very special that impacted El, turn out, he impacted the whole town

You have failed to mention an important aspect of the Eleven v. One showdown, when One asks eleven to join him it's a reference to Star Wars when Vader asks Luke to "join him to rule the Galaxy as father and son". This is even more clear given that One/Vecna's powers are fueled by negative emotions (Dark side of the Force) and Eleven's are fueled by positive emotions (Light side).

@cesargomes2378

2 жыл бұрын

i think this is a bit of a reach, but good observation

@PotatoCruncher12

2 жыл бұрын

@@cesargomes2378 he’s right . Eleven couldn’t use her powers when she was thinking of bad things

@cesargomes2378

2 жыл бұрын

@@PotatoCruncher12 yeah but that doesn’t make it a reference to star wars in my opinion

Vecna is the most terrifying villain in Stranger Things and he was more eerie and scary than the Mind Flayer . Vecna really scared me .

What’s crazy is the shot with Henry as a kid with his eyes closed in front of the clock…..and able to control the clocks hands without his eyes open really lookin at it 😱😱🔥🔥🔥🔥

I don't know if I believe in the Devil, but C.S. Lewis' description of him makes the most sense to me, and I think it sums up Vecna and the Mind Flayer perfectly - that his ultimate goal is to have a universe where every living thing is absorbed into him, and nothing exists but him.

*thumbnail* "HEY KIDS WANNA SEE A DEAD BODY?!" "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"

@Alrucards

2 жыл бұрын

PARTY PARTY PARTY.....

There's also one unanswered question which is how did Vecna got involve with Russia when we learn they kept a Demogorgon and why Russia wants the Upside Down creatures.

@luidelacruz4862

2 жыл бұрын

probably russia just wants the upside down creatures for war given the time period, also they could have gotten one from the experiments that the russians did on their own

@luidelacruz4862

2 жыл бұрын

just a thought

@DeviemTwen

2 жыл бұрын

⚠️ TV Theory ⚠️ I think the Demogorgan in Season 4 is the same from Season 1. Eleven dissolved Vecna the same way she did to the Demogorgan, except, Vecna got transferred to the Upside Down instead of disappearing...unless...the Demogorgan didn’t disappear at all, and just went back home. And in Season 3, a new gate opens which was how the Mind Flayer escaped into the Normal world again, but maybe the OG Demogorgan as well. As a result, the Russians capture the Demogorgan, and use it as a torture method. And finally, we see Hopper and his teammates battle the beast, and supposedly slay it. But hey, it’s just a theory. A GAME THE-

@TheKiraralover

2 жыл бұрын

@@DeviemTwen thats what I was thinking too!! Even though stranger things wiki says it was killed, idk if I truly belive that since we see Vecna in the upside down. This could mean that it's the same demogorgon from season 1 or a different one that somehow made its way to Russia.

@tabbaldwin3165

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe Russia want upside down creature to take down USA

Their house especially the entryway reminds me of the house in American Horror Story season 1.

@ambereyedbabygirl

2 жыл бұрын

Yesss

Really thought and I guess everyone for some time must've thought that it was actually dr. Brenner cause the teasers and the first 8 minutes brought him into the spotlight making it clear that he's returning with a key role to play...

Personally Vecna is by far one of the Best Villains of 2022.

blue and grey eyes always scared me!! this validate and enhanced my fear.

The Duffers took what is usually a messy and misused trope for any story and, so far, have made it work and it doesn't feel forced.

Amazing baddie this season. So excited to see him... I assume make it over to our side.

The only thing that isn't clear to me is how Joyce managed to communicate with Will via the lights in Season 1 if the up-side down never changed since Eleven touched the first demigorgon.

Hey I called it when I saw Jamie Bower playing the creepy orderly. It's always in the eyes

Yes I finished season 4 part one last night 🤩

0:01 "H-harder!" "WHAT?!" "What?"

I called the visions “Nightmare guilt” because they were struck using their own guilt and had nightmares formed by their internal struggle. I think it’s a fitting name

Vecna is a villian by many names -Lord Vecna -One -Peter Ballard -Henry Creel Whatever you call him one thing remains the same, a monster, broken mentally and physically.

OMG rebecca!!! i’ve missed you! hope you’re doing well 💕

Is it just me who loves Vecna's design? Not Henry's, not 001's, Vecna's. I just really like it.

If you watch the show you get an understanding of his origin as it explains it in the mid season finale

Love the thumbnail spoiler 🤙🏻

Best show on Netflix ever.