Predubut Yuju is *chef's kiss* I can't believe she's real :)

From Solji's clip to the Lina's one is such a perfect example to the title.

I'm so surprised that Jeongyeon's B4 is strained. It sounds so nice :(

@JS-st8pp

3 жыл бұрын

She usually keep good placement up there thats why.

@amayaclark9147

3 жыл бұрын

But it isn't

@diegooo283

3 жыл бұрын

strained it's not the same as bad, some singers do it on propouse

@myaris.m

3 жыл бұрын

@@diegooo283 mmm, sometimes... But it's not very healthy.

@myaabby2753

2 жыл бұрын

cause she has good tonal quality singers with good tonal quality can often cover up their fails with their tone alone and it can get pass an untrained ear.

dawon with the C5 oh my goddd !! i had no idea she could support that high, i thought it was only yeonjung who had a couple of good C5s and C#5s predebut (i think, cant even find the videos anymore) shes a whole queen tho. thank you for this video! :)

@slaypa

3 жыл бұрын

dawon is actually the best singer in wjsn

@klavmeu7301

2 жыл бұрын

@@slaypa too bad she hardly ever gets the highlight notes.

@UchihaItachiXoxo2

Жыл бұрын

Actually C5 isn't that high its my vocal range i can reach C5 Just in time

@teenysss

Жыл бұрын

@@UchihaItachiXoxo2 good for you! 🥰 and yeah most sopranos can reach C5 very easily lol. i just meant supporting it bc a lot of female idols dont support in the fifth octave at all

I always shock when I hear Song Seung Yoon and other vocalist sing the same song because I always love the good support. It makes the sound more full even if it doesn't reach the super high note. I have friends who is so into high notes and Idk how to tell him that support makes the song has more gravita than just how high they reach the note.

as a rosé ulted it always makes my heart comfy when people use her as good examples, cause overall people talk like she can't sing at all

@ieltcsn4712

3 жыл бұрын

Of course, she can sing. I just hope she won't end up like Bom. YG always has some strategy on how to gradually ruin their artist's natural instrument. Their like buying Bass just to play them like a cello.

@foreverinsfired

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@visit4873

3 жыл бұрын

@@ieltcsn4712 what happened to bom?

@ieltcsn4712

3 жыл бұрын

@@visit4873 she used to have a more than decent technique.YG forced her to fake her tone. Her technique deteriorated.

@ceoofsleepingintheclouds6504

3 жыл бұрын

@@ieltcsn4712 seriously tho her voice in the audition for yge that she covered Never gonna let you go sounds so Powerful

that Maria comparison though 😆

@heejinsnose2027

3 жыл бұрын

Not about the comparison but I love the song❤️

love the description - very well formulated language. it reminds me of my own writing style actually :>

@themradio4600

3 жыл бұрын

You're one of my inspirations! I've watched your videos sooo many times haha! Do you ever consider to start making new ones at some point :>?

It's surprising that despite having an amazing vibrato Siyeon can't support. Seems more like she choses not to support BEcause of her stylistic technique

@zimzalabimdenickimenajzala2003

2 жыл бұрын

No.insomnias get BEcause jokes

@mimitabiswas4534

2 жыл бұрын

@@zimzalabimdenickimenajzala2003 Lol now I've used that style of writing BEcause so much that my keyboard autocorrects it 😂😂

@YEOUN_channel

2 жыл бұрын

@@mimitabiswas4534 Although she doesn't support but I have to admit that she have nice musicianship skills imo.

@mimitabiswas4534

2 жыл бұрын

@@YEOUN_channel her musicianship skills are on some different level ngl it makes her one of the top 5 vocalists imo cuz a lot of vocalists who can support don't have any musicianship skills which makes their performances dull and boring

@YEOUN_channel

2 жыл бұрын

@@mimitabiswas4534 Yeahh, sadly she's more to a great singer than a great vocalist,I hope she can get proper training to balance her style and technique in the future before her voice deteriorating more.

Chowon although not having the support i was really shocked with her delivery on that note

@cutiieeepatootieee2002

3 жыл бұрын

@@izonexbae how high chowon supports consistently? it seems like people claim her to be the strongest in pd48. also how about jo yuri?

@izonexbae

3 жыл бұрын

@@cutiieeepatootieee2002 oh sorry for the late reply, Chowon had some sense of support but she was definitely not the best maybe one of the stronger ones but not the best. She has some nice B4’s but shallow Yuri has stronger sense and is consistent with Bb3-Bb4 but has done higher notes with support

@cutiieeepatootieee2002

3 жыл бұрын

@@izonexbae how about huh yunjin or haeyoon's support??

@izonexbae

3 жыл бұрын

@@cutiieeepatootieee2002 oh idk them hahha

@cutiieeepatootieee2002

3 жыл бұрын

@@izonexbae oh, i thought you watch pd48 so i assume you know them

When Minkyung supports E5 despite of being the weaker vocalist in Davichi is so amazing. Im not looking down on her, it's just, it proves that her and Haeri is a powerful pair to begin with 💖

@thdrgnn_

2 жыл бұрын

Both of Davichi members have support

@YeppiyeppiYooo

Жыл бұрын

Both are strong vocalist Minkyung is AA or AA-P Haeri is Good

Yeonjung’s tense C♯5 going down to that beautifully supported B4 is such a clear example of the benefits of good technique. The C♯5 sounds good on its own, but the comparison to the B4 just goes to show how much better your voice can sound when you use it well.

Yuju ate Let It Go

@msnobodybutabuddy3134

2 жыл бұрын

Spilled

Yeonjung’s case is a perfect example of closed and open vowels and vowel shaping. It’s harder to open up and support when the vowel is a closed vowel.

ok this came on my feed and as i watched and see a variety of singer examples, especially with the many king of masked singer clips, i got my hopes up to see Yeoeun listed... she's imo one of the most amazing vocalists and one of the earlier idols to ever crowned as King, she was rookie even at the time n nobody thought she's an idol from her singing. as a fan of her who knows nothing abt musical n vocal terms(i did learn something from reading the description though) i'd love to know a bit more about her vocals too. well, i watched to the end n feel a lil empty now lol. but the variety is nevertheless nice to see.

yuju.

Hi vọng clip này không bị đánh bản quyền =))))) lấy mấy màn trong Masked Singer dễ bị đánh gậy lắm á. Btw, cảm ơn vì bạn đã làm clip

@wenreneisreal6668

2 жыл бұрын

cho mình hỏi đây có phải kênh của page fabulous watermelon ko vậy?

Not me waiting for taeyeon cuz she's literally in the thumbnail 🧍🏻‍♀️

I was expecting Yuju's supported F5 from the 'All for you' cover to show up

@themradio4600

2 жыл бұрын

That note was too overused so i didnt choose it lol

Poor Loona all having strained clips 💀

@sunmiswashingmachine

2 жыл бұрын

i mean loona arent that great in terms of vocals

@julianna9882

2 жыл бұрын

loona has beautiful vocals and skills but lack support unfortunately

Should’ve used Wendy’s D5 in Umpah Umpah😭😭

@whynot-sr8wn

3 жыл бұрын

It's strain or support?

@izonexbae

3 жыл бұрын

@@whynot-sr8wn support

@whynot-sr8wn

3 жыл бұрын

@@izonexbae how about seulgi and joy's highnote

@izonexbae

3 жыл бұрын

@@whynot-sr8wn both were strained, Seulgi’s approach was better more relaxed than Joy and she had less restriction. Seulgi has the issue of going back into her nasality it’s becoming a vocal habit that is restricting her alot, if she would get rid of it i’m sure she would be able to create better support above B’s and maybe even C’s. She starts the note out good but then the nasality just slips in

@whynot-sr8wn

3 жыл бұрын

@@izonexbae ok thank you, do you know Joy and Seulgi support range? Tell me please

In the examples given by this video, I can kinda hear that the their voices sounded more full when it's not strained. Or maybe that's just me 😅

Son seungyeon supported and resonance up to F#5 😳😱😱

I wouldn’t say some of these are strained. Some of them are pushed and not much support.

I actually don't care if siyeon strains or not or if she has to, either way she, yoohyeon and siyeon will always be one of my fav vocalist of 3rd gen

I know all the female vocalist in this video have a good voice and power But do you know if Yuju have a collaboration with Loco (most famous rapper) when she before debut. And she and Loco can kill all the chart music, maybe they have the stage, but the music always on my heart

I think hwasa more to strain you can hear in her voice project

@YEOUN_channel

2 жыл бұрын

She sounds strained bcuz of her chest dominant mix,it gives an illusion that she's straining. She usually able to support consistently aorunt A3 ~ B4/C5.

@reganoswell6490

2 жыл бұрын

@@YEOUN_channel That's bullshit, that shit was so forced out. Just because she supports other times not mean she wasn't straining here.

@YEOUN_channel

2 жыл бұрын

@@reganoswell6490 That was supported but pushed and have some sort of tongue tension to it. Also why so harsh lol....

i don't understand. the girls who are singing in a strained way, looks so good. but then comes supported girls that are not singing really well. is insane. eunha singing beautifully with a not supported note and rose was supported and was bad tho

The 1st stained A4s don't sound strained to me, just unsupported

@slaypa

2 жыл бұрын

Eunha??

Now Jihyo and Momo from Twice, they reached the F5 note Momo in the song "last waltz" Jihyo in the song "Queen of Hearts"

@yerismind

Жыл бұрын

both strain i guess

@petucals

Жыл бұрын

Both strain

@soyeonvsveggies

Жыл бұрын

since when does momo have an f5 in last waltz?

eunjii

Who's the one on the top left in the thumbnail? And where is that picture from?

Im shocked all siyeons i saw strained

@hmmpftt1259

2 жыл бұрын

She strains super often. I've never heard her support above A4s actually (I'm an Insomniac!).

@stilllearning2561

2 жыл бұрын

@@hmmpftt1259 yeah she doesn't like to support all that much, tho she has so much potential

@diegooo283

2 жыл бұрын

It's because she only supported F#4 once and all notes of her above A4 are strained

@zimzalabimdenickimenajzala2003

2 жыл бұрын

Omg i got no notifications of these replys, i also think she trys too hit crazy notes too often and wear out her voice. Like her note in boca

@diegooo283

2 жыл бұрын

@@zimzalabimdenickimenajzala2003 it's because of her rocky technique, she strains on propouse

1:25 jeonyoung is actually unsupported not strained.

I like how you reused some clips

3:10 Predebut Yuju did that

@guinnmyahslaysstaymad

2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact source music didn‘t had vocal coaches so she grabed all her skills from her old vocal coach.

Tidak ada yg sambil tersenyum seperti jung eunji ketika high note.

To those singers who was labeled as "strained" are not strained at all there are just audible tension in their voice. Because if it is strained then their voice would crack before they get in to the note. For me tension ≠ strain. Because tension is lacking of vocal technique while, strain doesn't have technique at all. Ps. I've been watching your vid recently glad to know that there are people who are aware about vocal technicalities of this talented ladies! Pss. This is not a hate comment. I just want to expand knowledge and clarify some misunderstanding .

@phineasfacingfront6562

3 жыл бұрын

You're correct, these kinds of videos are enjoyable but very misinforming

@athxnamln

3 жыл бұрын

read the description

@meomeow2520

3 жыл бұрын

Read the discription

@BAZVOCALS

3 жыл бұрын

Can you precise the the notes you think are just tense and not strained ?

@myaris.m

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't that the definition of strain? To have tension in your voice(? (I'm not an english speaker, so that's why I'm asking)

That Younhyun E5 is strained but the incredible thing about this is that d5 and eb5 with resonance Damn Girl

this is surprising to me because most of those I AVTUALLY thoguht were pretty good

@horizonkyun7203

2 жыл бұрын

notes can still sound good even when they’re strained! the issue is more about how it might affect a vocalist over time

@slehbencheikh2950

2 жыл бұрын

@@horizonkyun7203 thank you for the comment! My comment was 4 months ago and thankfully I took the time to learn a bite more about vocals now

1:58 where is this from

@themradio4600

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/i35o2dx7etbcZpM.html here.

2:38 is a bunch of B4s not C5

2:30 hơi tội cô Yves tại lúc đấy vừa bị dẫm vào mũi :< dù biết cô ý chả sup đc C5 đâu nhma xem đến đoạn đấy hơi sed :

@nguyenlamquocchien476

4 жыл бұрын

Tại con ếch kkkk

@nguyenlamquocchien476

4 жыл бұрын

Yves hát nghe airy quá chắc định hướng làm stylistic vocalist rồi

i could never strain

but sometimes I like strained vocal, is it actually bad?

@HeLlO__J

2 жыл бұрын

It's unhealthy

@brebutthecoolone

2 жыл бұрын

It is bad technique so it’s unhealthy for their vocal chords but a lot of artists do it for stylistic reasons

@kalamies.

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't mean it sounds bad always it just mean that in the long run you might damage your vocal chords

@jisooturtlerabbitkim7683

Жыл бұрын

It can lead to damage of the vocal chords, it's not healthy.

@melaniaarce8226

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes strain can sound good due to good placement but it depends.

what song was 1:04 ?

@Dimyixx

2 жыл бұрын

Rough by Gfriend

siyeon slaayeedd

Some of them are not really strain when singing, different part they use

I think many of the strain is not strained. Sounds like you are mixing up between strained and head voice. Head voice is not strained.

@themradio4600

3 жыл бұрын

First, I'm sure none of the videos I showed is head voice - you can still hear the "heaviness" of the chest voice mixed in to create the mixed voice. Second, your sentence doesn't really make much sense, because head voice is a vocal register, while "strained" is a quality. And lastly, head voice can still be strained if the vocalists raises their larynx, squeezes their throat,... pretty much everything that I've listed as a strain-causing factor in the description. Thanks for watching anyway!

@BAZVOCALS

3 жыл бұрын

Girl Where are you even hearing head voice

@mikeatback

3 жыл бұрын

@@themradio4600 many of them are head voice but that term is a gray area these days. But most of the clips are not full chest voice. Yes. My second statement does not make sense because I was just using that as statement. meaning it sounds like you are looking for a sound vs trying to hear if they are straining.

@meomeow2520

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikeatback headvoice can still strain baby

@JS-st8pp

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikeatback None of these notes is full chest voice, all are mixed voice the combination of chest and head voice

What ? Nayeon can support Bb4 Cover santa tell me in sixteen

@themradio4600

3 жыл бұрын

That was more of a one-time thing so I didn't include it lol

Oh I had no idea Dawon supports C5 now ?

@YEOUN_channel

3 жыл бұрын

@Ace Edith, Dawon has been supporting many C5s though it's not part of her concsistent supported range..but she's the strongest in WJSN..Yeonjung hve supported few C5s and one C#5 during trainee days...Also Dawon still have support C5. I would actually consider C5 as her consistent support as she showcased is many times alr

@wushyringg

3 жыл бұрын

@@YEOUN_channel Dawon has C5 in her consistent supported range tho.

@YEOUN_channel

3 жыл бұрын

@@wushyringg actually at debut her C5s were not really great some were very pushy and tense but starting in 2018/2019 its become more and more consistent,so yeahh i would consider it as consistent as she supported it more than 5 times

@BirdHater

3 жыл бұрын

She supports A3-B4/C5

@BirdHater

3 жыл бұрын

@@YEOUN_channel Yeonjung supported some C5's? I knew about her C#5 but I never thought she could support C5's sometimes.

Nako is Japanese

@themradio4600

3 жыл бұрын

Oh it was during her career as a Korean idol at the time, and I must've mistaken that with her nationality. My bad.

I’m tired of hearing Rosé goat clip

@kanzrifrosie

Жыл бұрын

Don't bring my Rosé here, if you don't like her, go away, don't leave hate comments.

@aeivyyy

Жыл бұрын

@@kanzrifrosie I like her but her forced vibrato is so annoying stfu and don’t get come in my comments

@kanzrifrosie

Жыл бұрын

@@aeivyyy you say she's like goat and I'm her fan, obviously I'm angry, if you don't like her, shut up or comment nicely, I know she's not the best singer, but hating someone doesn't give you peace.

@aeivyyy

Жыл бұрын

@@kanzrifrosie i’m literally her fan and i’m just tired of the caprino clip because it doesn’t sound good

@uglycow6204

Жыл бұрын

hun, shes better than half the people on this list.. and shes has supported a c5 now soo..

The person who makes this video doesn't even know what support mean in vocal

@diidii7641

2 жыл бұрын

So tell me what support is for you?

Chờ cô Quênđi :(

@thanhtuan8609

4 жыл бұрын

Việt Trung Đặng chắc chắn hóng rùi nè 💙

Rosé wasn't straining...

@Sun-kissed_lips

2 жыл бұрын

STRAIN: A lack of proper support, accompanied by the singer forcing out the note by squeezing the throat muscles together, raising the larynx and potentially having tension in the jaw, neck, tongue, etc. This creates a closed, sometimes yelled sound and is unhealthy for the vocal cords.

@miau5875

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sun-kissed_lips now it doesn't do that anymore, now it reaches C5 and C#5 with head voice

@borntodie2637

2 жыл бұрын

She was lol

@jisooturtlerabbitkim7683

Жыл бұрын

I love Rosé but she was

I've just got to add, quite a few of these clips used to differentiate between strain and support feature the vocalist singing in English, compared to Korean. Not sure if that was purposeful or just not even considered, but you can't technically compare between two very different languages such as English and Korean, and say it's just a lack of support (because it's their 2nd/3rd+ language they're still learning), when it's also largely a very different mouth, tongue, and throat placement (which is how strain is differentiated with support) that they're not used to. I would also bring up the point of natural accent and nasal surgeries in this industry, but definitely more so it not being fair if you're comparing two vocalists singing in two different languages, as well as group vs solo vocalists. Some videos are also from TV singing shows (e.g. 'King of Mask Singer'), which are proven to have edited vocals that are done before the episodes are aired. Other videos also have a vocalist moving or are fancams from concerts, which highly distort the vocals based on the phone's audio perception, but what you hear at concerts is also distorted with what is actually being sung if you have a good audio engineer. Another thing I'd argue is that all of these vocalists sing very different genres and have personal preferences into how they sing, such as a stylistic approach compared to a more technical approach. Both can sound great or horrible, one doesn't and isn't necessarily worse, just that vocal strain can and does happen to all, but a vocalist is more susceptible to strain if they aren't supported and are trying to sing outside of their current range (which, again, happens to all). I don't care about these rankings, as I genuinely couldn't care, but also because idol vocalists, especially group ones, often aren't given the opportunities to showcase their new abilities, which leaves fans with this perception of there being no improvement every comeback. And whilst I wouldn't know each idols' schedule, that would just be an utterly incorrect judgement, because they would continue to receive vocal coaching past official debut.

Who's the one on the top left in the thumbnail? And where is that picture from?