LIBERTARIAN *ISM* Wait... shit.

Statism is the worst of all that.

@WitchyWagonReal

6 жыл бұрын

bergonius -- Statism is one of those messy human dichotomies... because, at its heart, it has good intentions. Regardless which Statist-based "-ism" philosophy we consider, the good majority of them begin with the premise that "this system is what will work best for the most people" and often even start out sincerely, idealistically attempting to improve all fellow mens' lot in life. From Hitler, to Lenin, to Mao, and countless others, they all began wanting to improve the lives of their people, regardless how corrupted and doomed. Yes... it usually doesn't work out, and even the best, most fair systems of government are horribly flawed and susceptible to corruption and the self-perpetuating survivalism of any entrenched bureaucracy. (How many governments, for thousands of years, have persisted on nothing better than, "Well it's not perfect, but it is the best system we have..." ?) But, that is way beyond the scope of a quick KZread comment. The point is... I think Statism exists, regardless what type any given people may choose, because large groups and societies long ago realized that some form of functional governmental system is necessary for a productive society to exist and thrive, and perhaps even survive at all. Otherwise, you'll eventually default to Statism anyway, in the form of warlord feudalism and slavery (like Mad Max Fury or TWD-- for those youngsters who own no books and still need some frame of reference...). So, Statism in some form... however we earnestly try to manage its real potential problems... is probably unavoidable for human civilization to endure on any reasonable scale. Two buddies in the woods, anarchy works. Three buddies in the woods, and you probably needs Statism in the form of some amiable hierarchy. Personally, libertarianism works best for me... minimal infringements, minimal governmental overreach, but still harboring a moral framework that recognizes helping and contributing to your fellow man is a good thing most of the time. The basic idea being: "live and let live," unless one's actions infringes upon another's right to live equally, at which time we agree to work out a compromise that is either beneficial or benign to each party. Not a big a fan of Statism... because in practice, it's almost always hopelessly corrupt, abusive of power, and indifferent to the suffering it causes by trampling on civil liberties... the State, as an entity, is not your friend.

@cnault3244

Жыл бұрын

Along with theism.

Don't hurt people and don't take their stuff. WOW

@ShamefulSociety

6 жыл бұрын

Woah, woah, woah. How am I supposed to make a profit without hurting people or stealing from other people? Is there even a point? /s

@mastring1966

6 жыл бұрын

the concept of private property is the foundation of a free people. with that one idea, with that one concept founding a system of government as it's core, you get amazing prosperity. There's some turd in that sandwich too, but for the most part, compared to the other meals out there, it's a very crap free option.

@mastring1966

6 жыл бұрын

I'm sure the people of Venezuela would totally agree with you...you know, if you were to give them a sammich or something to eat. Since they're starving to death, murder is through the roof and the government has taken over all forms of private property and dictates what is and is not a human right.

@shankthebat8654

6 жыл бұрын

You can't not have government. You can say that, but sooner or later, you'll need it. Even if only in some very limited form. If a free people want to stay free, they need some organization with a mandate to protect them; both from outside threats, and from the abuse of power by other free people. Sooner or later, those free people will demand one body exists that protects them from, say, lead in the children's toys, toxic levels of chemicals in their food, protects their borders, protects them from foreign invasion, from the chemical company down the street from dumping sludge into their drinking water. Companies want someone to protect their intellectual property, to collect their debts from people who feel too "free" to have to pay them. And people in general want someone to do all those things without a profit motive. None of this is me advocating what we have now, but having no government means that sooner or later, someone's going to come around to the line of thinking that their way is right, and you don't need to get a vote on it. We NEED government, to administrate the binding rules we have as a society, and keep companies from abusing, or being abused. Yes, there's a lot of things that could be privatized, and should be, no argument there. But no government at all is not a solution. If nothing else, because sooner or later someone's going to make one, and they won't be asking you for your thoughts on how it's run.

@shankthebat8654

6 жыл бұрын

I didn't realize you knew what I studied, where, or for how long. I congratulate you on your spy network. When I reach the point in a discussion where someone presumes to know the details of my life and education, especially in the negative, especially because I happen to not agree with them, I'm out. Why bother discussing things with you, clearly you already know me so well....

Stosselism

There one blindingly brilliant and moral exception to this video, namely INDIVIDUALISM!!!

@paulangeli9710

6 жыл бұрын

JohnnieGarner Well put! I agree totally!

@JohnnieGarner

6 жыл бұрын

Ridiculous! If all individuals are valued for themselves, society would be simply be the sum of all individuals as values in themselves. There is no conflict and no actual "balance" to be considered. Such notion of "balance" is confused at best and a scam at worst.

@taxslave5906

3 жыл бұрын

@@thotslayer9914, exactly! I am also an anarcho-individualist.

@taxslave5906

3 жыл бұрын

@@thotslayer9914, then why did say you are an anarcho-individualist? Individualism is right-wing. Collectivism is left-wing. Unless you are no longer an individualist. I am an anarchist-capitalism. Capitalism is a individualistic economic system.

Thank you! This has been an issue thats always bothered me and it's great someones finally giving it light.

Link to the content would be great!

Thanks for sharing Matt Kibbe. He needs a wider audience. When speaking to leftists who hate capitalism, I'm always careful to first define terms so we're speaking the same language. I try to get them to understand that they don't like cronyism and corporatism, but that's not capitalism. It's not even crony capitalism. There's no such thing. It doesn't make any sense to juxtapose those two words. They're essentially opposites. Capitalism is two people voluntarily exchanging value because both benefit. How is there any room in that definition for someone to find fault? You prefer coercion to voluntary action? You prefer people suffering instead of prospering? You like race to the bottom poverty?

@GBart

6 жыл бұрын

Liberty4Ever You said you were careful to define your terms - how do you define Cronyism? "How is there any room in that definition for someone to find fault" Because it's easy to be convinced you're benefitting from an exchange when you're not. That's why false advertising is illegal, for instance. But it can be a lot more subtle than that...

@Liberty4Ever

6 жыл бұрын

Cronyism is benefit bestowed based on a close association with government. Examples would be lobbyists giving a lot of money to politicians who then give a lot more of our tax money to the corporations they represent. Or Senator Dianne Feinstein's husband making a lot of money selling US Post Office properties as part of the downsizing restructuring. Or city council members buying a lot of commercial property and then voting to spend tax dollars to develop an area, increase traffic flow, grant tax benefits for business development, etc. To the extent that someone can believe they're benefiting when they're being exploited in a transaction, that's more fraud than capitalism, but there is a sliding scale and at some point it's weasel business practices that don't meet the legal definition of fraud, but even then, capitalism has a great corrective measure to punish the perpetrators. Markets run on information. Usually, that prevents an uninformed purchase where one party isn't better after the trade. If not, it's still in the long term interest of the seller to ensure that the customer is happy. One disgruntled customer can ruin a business. Buyers have a lot more power than sellers, so it's actually sellers that are more at risk of being taken advantage of in a commercial exchange. I don't argue that capitalism is perfect. Nothing is perfect. But capitalism is by far the best economic ism. And by best, I mean best for everyone. Buyers. Sellers. Society at large. Wealth creation benefits everyone, at every level. The keys are to ensure that the trades are voluntary, people are informed, and there is competition so there is choice in the marketplace. Note that government interactions with people is generally the opposite of this.

@GBart

6 жыл бұрын

"capitalism has a great corrective measure to punish the perpetrators. Markets run on information" This is the problem. They have some control over that information, and they aren't always punished. The bigger the institution, the more easily it can control that information. "...Buyers have a lot more power than sellers" I really like this argument in theory, but I'm not sure it works so well in practice. I've seen it fail too many times. " capitalism is by far the best economic ism" Well, yes and no. It's a pretty broad category and not everything in that category is great (e.g. cronyism). I think it has to overlap with socialism somewhere, and that's the healthy place for an economic system to be. "The keys are to ensure that the trades are voluntary, people are informed, and there is competition so there is choice in the marketplace. Note that government interactions with people is generally the opposite of this." Yes, generally I agree with this, but this also doesn't always work. Sometimes the government just does it better, like with prisons - private prisons are more expensive and less effective than public ones. Sometimes a market is inappropriate - it depends on what we want to accomplish.

@MilwaukeeF40C

6 жыл бұрын

"it's easy to be convinced you're benefitting from an exchange when you're not" Fuck off.

@Liberty4Ever

6 жыл бұрын

I just bought myself a $500 electric bass for Christmas. It's gorgeous. I'd much rather have the bass than the $500. The guitar seller would rather have the $500. Who was exploited in this voluntary exchange? Explain to me how this is not mutually beneficial. I wouldn't have agreed to purchase the bass if it wasn't beneficial to me. Capitalism FTW! This isn't complicated. Why do people keep insisting that voluntary exchanges are not mutually beneficial? I'm just not seeing the exploitation. I don't want to live in your world where I'm prevented from engaging in wonderful capitalism. I can't even imagine how much poorer my life would be if not for capitalism. I'd probably shivering in a cave, hunting everything I ate and dying at 34. I'm going to go play my bass now. I suggest you think about capitalism every time you buy anything you need or want, and be grateful for the blessings of capitalism that we've so taken for granted that socialism is becoming more popular in the United States. Madness!

I really enjoyed this segment- I wish it was longer! I fully agree that the titles of “left” and “right” have divided people and cause so much unnecessary strife. I can testify to this with examples within my own family. Oftentimes, people on either side don’t even know what the side they’re on supports. I appreciate that they presented an alternative to the “-isms of the left” and “-isms of the right.” This liberty, entrepreneurship, people cooperating, and ultimately freedom being an alternative to being put in a box with a label of one of the -isms is something I’d like to hear more about. I think that alternative is a better choice than any of the -isms we have on the table now.

It's all Statism, the most deadly religion of all.

@DrCruel

6 жыл бұрын

I prefer the terms "Thiefism" and "Gimmeism."

@EdwardFeenman

6 жыл бұрын

Wesen so you openly support slavery?

@DrCruel

6 жыл бұрын

Statism is natural in the same way that thievery and rape are natural. It may be impossible to abolish, but it's hardly moral to deliberately promote it. Anti-statism is not so much religious as ethical (indeed - religions are often used to justify the state). Not wanting to be robbed and abused is hardly a sign of religious fanaticism.

@DrCruel

6 жыл бұрын

Ignorance is Strength. Freedom is Slavery. War is Peace. We've been here before. Besides. If anti-statism is rape, then anti-statism is natural. You can't fight nature. Give it up.

@DrCruel

6 жыл бұрын

You've convinced me. Put this horse collar on and go pick me some cotton, lest I lay this People's Whip cross your libertarian back. And have your woman go fetch me a julip. I'm feeling quite ornery at the moment.

Where does he get all those wonderful mustaches?

Cool

Man ferris Bueller said this decades ago.

A video about how good another video was XD

Not knowing the difference between an individual with "right" values and what the politicicians have morphed it into is to not understand why Trump got elected. Not saying the man doesn't have flaws.

i respect both men's mustaches

Why is Fascism considered Right Wing? I guess socially it aligns more with right wing ideals, but if you're operating on a strictly economic basis, Fascism definitely leans more left. The further Left you go economically the more government involvement there is in the economy and vice versa. Fascism supports direct government involvement in and ownership of parts of the economy. It'd be interesting to see a video on how and when Fascism became the extreme side of the Right.

@creativeusername6453

6 жыл бұрын

Midironica fascism doesn't inherently have anything to say on economic matters is purely far right social policies. Nazism is somewhat of a weird case but Italy and Spain are better examples of pure fascism

love your videos, but seems lazy to just agree with another video and just comment on it.

"Crapitalism" - Hadn't heard that one. Fitting.

I think I've reached the point where politics doesn't matter to me anymore.

There's no "cronyism" in capitalism. I prefer the term Government Cronyism.

Who were the 40 politicians that disliked this video?

Don’t forget Feminism

1:37 - pelosi - bohner Masonic Handshake lol

So what about independent politicians? They are in the middle.

ism's are bad, but aren't you finding a way to categorize just about everyone? Obama wasn't a capitalist, he was a crony capitalist, which is just as bad. I agree that we should get away from labels, but what's the alternative? What's a good country that doesn't use any forms of isms?

Only 2 isms you need to worry about, collectivism and individualism

@cnault3244

Жыл бұрын

And theism.

@edictzero

Жыл бұрын

@@cnault3244 that falls under collectivism

I used to be libertarian but ultimately it is naive to suppose that oversight of government should be limited across the board. There are areas of society that are more vulnerable to abuse. In order to guarantee that we have liberty we cannot just be reactive to abuses, we need to remain proactive in our guard of the things that enable people to have liberty. Let's be clear, not everyone has integrity and if we don't have a lock on the door, they will access the means to deny liberty to others. No referee in a fight gives no intensive to fight fair, and no reason to win.

But A socialist told me that all the innovation we enjoy, come from Government Subsidy and funding. But is this really the case?

LibertarianISM

You missed one: theism

Multi-culturalism

The only true spectrum has State on one end, and human on the other.

don't hurt people and don't take their stuff.... Where is that stone tablet need to put an addition on it.

@GBart

6 жыл бұрын

NEVER BOIL A GOAT IN ITS MOTHER'S MILK!

Capital ism?

Catholicism, mormonism, hinduism and so on and so on.

conservatism, libertarianism, capitalism though

You mean libertarianism is a philosophy to get behind? Isn't that an -ism???

@mjtheko

6 жыл бұрын

Ken MacDonald the argument outlined in the video is "isms are bad, liberty good!" I'm just using the videos argument against itself.

@mjtheko

6 жыл бұрын

And of course I know Islamism is 10 times more shit than liberalism. I'm just attempting to point out this video's presumption of -ism = bad is bullshit.

@finerbiner

6 жыл бұрын

Truly tripe for the indoctrinated.

@DrCruel

6 жыл бұрын

I think it's a workaround for the argument that National Socialism somehow isn't "really" just another form of socialism. More simple and pertinent to say that all forms of socialism are self-evident scams.

as on now 56 communists and Nazis disliked this video

The work of Dr. Jordan B Peterson, a renown clinical psychologist out of the University of Toronto, proves beyond a doubt that the liberal vs conservative political divide is not an arbitrary social construct but rather the physical manifestation of different but equally valuable innate personality traits.

@Drumsgoon

6 жыл бұрын

fine as far as personality goes, but maybe political philosophy should be concerned with what is best for every individual, not just the psychological group one is a part of. In other words: liberty.

@willhelmberkly3025

6 жыл бұрын

In order for a political system to be capable of evaluating which course of action would produce a net benefit for every individual to whom that political system is responsible it would require the operator of that system to be able to transcend the space time continuum.

@MilwaukeeF40C

6 жыл бұрын

That's libertarianism. Everything has been done multiple times. There is far more than enough empirical evidence to do that already.

While there are good points here, admittedly I'm not big on how this is formulated as anti "-ism"s. The implicit suggestion here is that taking any kind of stand on principle which you can name and identify is wrong. Is that really the case? I certainly don't think so. I don't really associate myself with the term libertarianism anymore, not not out of fear of isms so much as out of disdain for the likes of Rothbard and Hoppe, who I found came across as pretty anti liberty in many cases. I'm not without my isms though-- social liberalism, capitalism, Objectivism. Framing this debate around the idea of isms being bad strikes me as inadvertently reinforcing the standard left-right dichotomy, but particularly from an angle that implicitly supports a middle of the road. I know this isn't the intent, but that's certainly an implication you can get out of it. An ism is an ideological or philosophical stand of some kind. By its nature, a stand is "extremist." You'll find that philosophies like pragmatism don't really take much of a stand at all, which is why they can be middle of the roaders, and I think you'll find the same value deficit in libertarian ethics of you look deep enough-- which is why this kind of video might seem at first appealing. Libertarians do have a kind of ethical principle, nonaggression, but no thanks to the influence of Rothbardians this has been treated as axiomatic rather than as a derived principle. Freedom from violence for its own sake is a pretty pointless adage and suggests that there's no value being defended by such a stand for freedom. It is of the utmost importance philosophically to not replace principles of social interaction with axiomatic commands for obedience, especially if you actually care about liberty and know why. Trying to treat nonaggression as some amoral non-ism is not going to cut it. That's deceptive and assumes people are far more stupid than they actually are. Come out in the open and say what you stand for (and why) and articulate what this implies you're against (and why). Nothing less would prove intellectually useful.

@quintessenceSL

6 жыл бұрын

I'd add that it is easy to support laissez-faire and non-aggression after the fact (to see a white guy in America say he is against taking other people's stuff is just precious). There may not be a feasible way to account for the sins of the father, but to ignore the march of history to this present state is duplicitous and naive. And there is a distinct negligence with the other flavors of libertarianism, not to mention lauding Smith and Hayek while curiously ignoring other aspects of their ideas. Axioms are great because it shuts down any further thinking, which aptly describes the mainstay of libertarianism.

@YamiShadowKitty

6 жыл бұрын

quintessenceSL Unfortunately, I have to agree with you here. Axioms are a very good way to shut down deeper discussion, especially when understood as actually axioms-- at least at a higher level than the most basic of the basic in epistemology anyway. The attacks on basic sensory data and logic by the Kantian types is pretty ridiculous. Anything more complex than "my eyes show me stuff" and "A is A" should be on the table to question and understand the basis of. It all comes down to rationally understood sensory data. The introduction of axioms at any higher level is the self confessed introduction of floating abstractions which have no connection back to the real world. As to the "sins of the father" point, this is something I've thought about quite a bit. Though I don't think anyone is responsible for the deeds of their ancestors, there are certainly consequences to deal with. (That said, for reference, I'm not so sure my family over the last two hundred years actually had much to do with land theft against natives. On the one side, I'm partly German three generations back and partly East coast American with Irish ancestry, too far north to be actively involved in slavery and too far East to be involved in expansionary action. On the other, about four generations back I think I'm English. I've been Canadian my entire life.) I really wouldn't know how involved my ancestors would be in any activities that bring up the sins of the father concept, but I don't see that being my doing even if they did. I still care, mind. I don't see oppression as being to my benefit. I would rather see such people brought out of their suffering than left in it, both for my interests and theirs.

@MilwaukeeF40C

6 жыл бұрын

Non aggression is derived from the way that pretty much everyone over the age of two considers consequences. Everyone is a libertarian when it comes to shit that they want to do. Having to spell it out for people is only necessary to show them how unprincipled and inconsistent they are when they are.

@YamiShadowKitty

6 жыл бұрын

Bushrod Rust Johnson That actions have consequences is kind of obvious, though. I don't think anybody but maybe the most hardcore platonists might contest that, and even then they'll acknowledge something of the sort in the "shadowy" world which we actually interact with. No; it's not just consequences. It's what consequences mean with respect to a person's standard of value. The reason aggression is a problem is because, to use an old Objectivist bromide, reason ends where the muzzle of a gun begins. The grounds by which one should worry about the freedom to think, which is what the positive statement of nonaggression really is, are that reason and the ability to act on one's own conclusions are the root source of prosperity and happiness. This is very important to grasp, or else one isn't going to make a valid case for nonaggression. But more to the point, if you really think the only reason for understanding the underlying basis of the non-aggression principle is to show people how stupid they are, you are deathly mistaken. The primary reason one must understand the basis of the ideas he or she accepts is so that she can articulate them clearly, not just to the uninitiated, but also to yourself. Doing so will make you dramatically more resilient against arguments to the contrary, or at the least better equipped to assess the quality of said arguments. I get treating something "like" an axiom among circles who all know the foundation of an idea. It would be impossible to communicate concisely if every time an Objectivist were to talk to a fellow Objectivist, he had to do a quick revision of every metaphysical and epistemological piece of information necessary to make a basic ethical or political claim. But, even then, you need to know the basis because otherwise you could easily say something at odds with it. To suggest that understanding the basis of a principle is only about showing others how stupid they are is at best itself stupid and at worst very dangerous.

@quintessenceSL

6 жыл бұрын

+Bushrod Rust Johnson That's interesting. Currently you have a national discussion as to different forms of aggression (whether you agree or not, it's clear different conceptions exist) and you also have abstract expressions, like Jim Crow Laws, while libertarians are quick to condemn, hem-and-haw if "aggression" can take any other forms (and isn't it convenient that libertarians get to define exactly what constitutes aggression). Of course pointing this out to someone who could justify something like the Ludlow Massacre under the auspices "They needed some kind of asset protection since the state sure as shit wasn't doing anything about private property being taken over by violent thieves. Fuck socialists." is certainly principled and consistent, as long as the state is serving your will. I often wondered how the Red Scare gained so much traction, especially since it is mostly a battle of words. Now I can turn to libertarians and think "oh, that's how".

Faith in Humanity lost for another four weeks...

Isms make schisms.

he forgot libertarianism...

@Rensune

6 жыл бұрын

adyagiler That's Because it's the "Deadly" isms. So Libertarianism and Capitalism wouldn't be on that list.

@damionjackson1743

6 жыл бұрын

Rensune Ever heard of the ludlow massacre or battle of Blair mountain?.

@klrdotorg7135

6 жыл бұрын

Damion jackson Ludlow and Blair Mountain were stains on our history regarding labor rights. Since that time, union goons have beat and harassed replacement workers much more frequently than any violence coming from big companies, or their collaboration with state officials.

CAPITALISM!!!

Judaism should be on that list.

List fails without feminism

Corporatism...Nepotism...

"OUR single entity telling you how to live your life is, like, TOTALLY DIFFERENT from YOUR single entity telling you how to live your life, man." 😏

@willhelmberkly3025

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah because the Russian people were SOOO much better off under Stalin then they were under Tsar Nicholas...

Why don't you just say that you, me and Dave Rubin believe just on libertarianism, individualism and voluntaryism?

This is kinda stupid because that's just a suffix. I.E. Libertarianism, Republicanism, Federalism, etc...

Capitalism too Tnx

@takesnosides3814

6 жыл бұрын

Feel free to explain your position on capitalism.

@donewiththeinternet

6 жыл бұрын

Baron VonPolity it's evil because I have to contribute to society ;( why can't the government give me handouts other than welfare social security etc.

GUESS you just didn't have the balls to list FEMINISM

how is providing a socialized public option "deadly"? social security, Medicare/medicaid, the post office, and tax-payer funded police are the opposite of deadly imo.

Why not just mirror Kibbe's video if you're not actually going to contribute anything new to it?

@NicholasLibby

6 жыл бұрын

Also... Maybe link to it ?

Libertarianism?

So called Crony-Capitalism is not Capitalism, it is a form of socialist corruption of Capitalism. I call it Gangsterism.

@MrWatchmen759

5 жыл бұрын

Michael Foye is capitalism u idiot

Libartarianism?

Don't forget the damage done by libertarianism.

@SergioKoolhaas

5 жыл бұрын

What's the damage?

"Capitalism is mostly good" Lololololol.

@hereticalbug3112

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah newzealand, france and germany is a very good place to live

"Clintonism"

libertarianism, stosslism, and ReasonTVism too. Pompass assism, smart assism, no shitism, and STFUism

@peachybiscuits

6 жыл бұрын

Joe Ciliberto what about capitalism?

@JoeCiliberto

6 жыл бұрын

Mike - Thanks, that was informative,

@JoeCiliberto

6 жыл бұрын

PB - That too! And I forgot that along with all the other ISM is isn'tism.

@EdwardFeenman

6 жыл бұрын

I get pissed off when someone forces me to watch a video I don't want to watch too! I mean, if I wasn't being forced and it made me that angry, I'd just click off, but when someone forces you to watch this shit, definitely make a dirty, nasty comment to show how pissed off you are.

@jaythrash8804

6 жыл бұрын

@mikebtko "Racism is the lowest, most primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social, or political significance to a man's genetic lineage- the notion that a man's intellectual and characterologic al traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry". ~Ayn Rand.

lmao he never mentions "capital-ism" or "libertarian-ism" but claims all "ism"s are bad. What a buffoon.

@Boristien405

6 жыл бұрын

J. L. Hamilton - Man, must be pretty easy to not watch the video and comment. He never said all isms are bad. He is a self proclaimed supporter of libertarianism and capitalism... think just a little.

I like freedom but I'm sorry capitalism is also a deadly ism. Seperating of church and state hasn't been achieved in most countries. I live in Germany which is pretty great but you still pay taxes for being part of the church and even if you don't there are still church hospitals that are funded by the government. So how do you think seperating government and business is possible? In Chile the US governments intervention led from a communist dictatorship to a capitalist dictorship. I wouldn't call that freedom. China has expirenced a massive increase in living standards but is still a totalitarian regime. Unfortunately, freeing markets under a dictator translates to economic growth but not necessarily more freedom in other parts of life.

ReasonTVism Stosselism ,Captialism,Libertarianism what a handy suffix for creating scapegoats and click bait titles

you forgot tribalism and identitarianism

I see that you've forgotten conservatism.

@harborseal1286

6 жыл бұрын

And Libertarianism.

@harborseal1286

6 жыл бұрын

Hmm

Pinochetism works

It like Stossel is trying to be Andy Rooney, and not the early Andy Rooney, but the late cry baby Andy Rooney... I do wish he would stop while I still have any desire to hear what he has to say.

@kandysman86

6 жыл бұрын

45von this is one of the better videos on this channel

@45von

6 жыл бұрын

I know... unfortunately you are right.

Conservatism...

Corporatism, is just another word for fascism, which is a form of socialism, and so is also a far left ideology.

Reality is ; centrist don’t get elected to Congress very often. Left and right is about values. The right values traditionalism and family. And the left values emotions and change

@Kikasitsu

6 жыл бұрын

AT Fly Really now? Have you looked up Rothbard’s “Right-Wing Populist Program?” Family has two *very different* meanings between Marx and someone like Rothbard. The key to use is the word: “Role.”

@GBart

6 жыл бұрын

I would say it's a little more precise to say the left values personal well-being and innovation. Progressive/liberal literally means "open to new ideas"

@Kikasitsu

6 жыл бұрын

When the Left talks about "Family" they talk about putting down the roles of "Mom" & "Dad", instead letting them BE how they wish to handle their parenting situation, as well as the kids granting them the ability to think critically. Basically, the Mom shouldn't stay at home, in the same manner that the dad shouldn't go to work. Instead, they could switch places, or they could be inclusive in each other's lives, as they both chase their dreams, or be humbled by their own ability, rather than by Tycoon that thinks they need to control and command everything.

Oversimplification logical fallacy.

@DrBrainTickler

6 жыл бұрын

Ken MacDonald pot calling the kettle black.

@DrBrainTickler

6 жыл бұрын

Ken MacDonald you're a debate troll. Shut the fuck up.

@DrBrainTickler

6 жыл бұрын

Ken MacDonald I hate every single person like you... go ahead, fuel my hate some more. Say something stupid again. kzread.info/dash/bejne/n3qsmcynfrXRgKw.html

@DrBrainTickler

6 жыл бұрын

Ken MacDonald kzread.info/dash/bejne/jGqJyLVmp8fgZLw.html

@DrBrainTickler

6 жыл бұрын

Ken MacDonald I'll make a deal with you. You delete your comment and I'll delete everything I said after it. You choose shitbag.

"as long as you don't take their stuff" okay is his argument that no one should have to pay taxes. does he realize nothing is free.

@TheFloatingSheep

6 жыл бұрын

how is the fact that nothing is free an argument for government monopoly government steals your money and pushes their monopolized service down your throat whether you like it or not you should decide what services you want, and who you want them from where there's voluntary transactions there's competition, where there's competition there's improvement

@steviemarkjones

6 жыл бұрын

how is "the governments stealing your money" an argument for voluntarily paying your taxes? it's easy - if you don't like participating in the system, you don't have to live here. nothing is free.

@steviemarkjones

6 жыл бұрын

turn in your SOCIAL security card and move to a country where you don't have to pay taxes and you pay for everything out of pocket. no police dept? thats okay pay a private mercenary.

@steviemarkjones

6 жыл бұрын

TheFloatingSheep of the people, by the people, for the people. not just me, me, me.

@acex222

6 жыл бұрын

"if you don't like participating in the system, you don't have to live here." Yes you do. You have to pay an expatriation fee.

Another 3 minute video from Stossel with a depth of analysis equivalent to no more than the surface-tension of water. Who's the target audience for this simplistic propaganda? 12 year olds?

@bdk336

6 жыл бұрын

I have a pretty libertarian lean to my politics but I still agree this is a pretty pointless video. 'Isms are bad.' is not what should be taken away from looking at harmful ideologies or corrupt politics.

@oscardighton8580

6 жыл бұрын

this video was basically just an advert for a series, it wasnt meant to stand on its own

@Perserus

6 жыл бұрын

Ah, you're right. He does quite a few videos in this format though, which are stand-alone and meant to be taken seriously. For example the ones on climate change. Go look for some deep and nuanced analysis there. I mistook it for one of those.

@damionjackson1743

6 жыл бұрын

Alf Mikael Teenagers who have not experienced the real world.

How Nationalist Socialism is rightwing? Socialism is leftwing!

@sirtoby4939

6 жыл бұрын

And Nationalism is right-wing. Unfortunately for your non-argument, the Nazis put WAY more nationalism in their blending pot of bullshit, than they did socialism. So there you go.

@takesnosides3814

6 жыл бұрын

SirToby, that's not really true either. Socialism simply involves government owning the means of production in whole or in part. The Nazi Party did that as well in spades. Socially it may be considered right wing, due to the typical conservative propensity toward preserving a national identity. However, that would be like saying everyone who is left wing was totally chill with Stalin or Chairman Mao - which I suspect is generally not the case. In reality left and right wing labels are pretty meaningless - as most people's interests tend not be that polarized.

@oswaldorodriguez2357

6 жыл бұрын

Hitler is original "Soy Boy": missing balls, pro-vegan, anti-guns, central planning, anti-free-markets, socialize meds, free educations, regs controlling businesses, centralize banking, big Government etc..

@oswaldorodriguez2357

6 жыл бұрын

Note: Cuba is very Nationalist

@MilwaukeeF40C

6 жыл бұрын

I don't really think of the Soviet Union or China as being not nationalist.

Most people don't even know what Marxism is or even understand the basic concept of Marx's critique of Capitalism rather than debate on merit stossel resorts to strawman tactics and cheap characterization driven by cold war era politics so much for the market place of ideas which this channel tries to promote.

Where are Islamism and transgenderism?

@GBart

6 жыл бұрын

On the list of pretend isms. You could group them together and call it misunderstandism

D'you know the difference between a Libertarian and a baby ? One day the baby grows up !

@nobodymatters3294

6 жыл бұрын

Libertarian, the crazy concept that you mind your own business, pay your own way, take care of yourself, and no one rules over you. It was be thick to say a baby could construct any of these concepts and then carry them out.

@wrender

6 жыл бұрын

Wesen, No one's talking about living off the land in seclusion here. Although, why do you seem to have a problem with people doing that if they wish?

@jon-erich9752

6 жыл бұрын

Libertarians are young in spirit. If growing up involves stealing other people's money in order to finance illegal wars and the bailouts of banks, I would rather not grow up.