Are you feeling confused after watching this video? Do you find yourself asking "So, if VPNs don't protect my privacy, what should I use instead?"? Well, I've finally made a video answering that exact question: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o455lpeDXbCvhco.html

@user-wy2ne9sq9j

3 жыл бұрын

Ok

@catcheeks4295

3 жыл бұрын

Hi

@tostadoramagic

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Mr Fbi agent

@Skely

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@despairgaming6669

3 жыл бұрын

How good is TOR ? I have been using it for like 6 years now..

*stops using VPN* "Sorry, the content provider has not made this video available in your region." *starts using VPN again*

@Hans_247

4 жыл бұрын

Vpn is not a big deal. Real gangs doesn’t even talk directly with their unregistered sim cards often. It’s just for the sake of blocked contents. And Privacy? Huh funny.

@basweshwarthakkarwad5035

4 жыл бұрын

If you really need to use a vpn then you should create your own openVPN server.

@yeshello8934

4 жыл бұрын

HAHAHHAHAHAHA

@reapthewhirlwind6915

4 жыл бұрын

@@Hans_247 the cartel has tgeir own cellphone networks. Epstein had his own cellphone network on pedo island.

@Horfenico

4 жыл бұрын

From my experience they don't even work that well for that shit. The connection is slow as fuck.

Title: Stop using VPNs. KZread: "Let's place NordVPN ad here!"

@ShinareAeruil

4 жыл бұрын

@TheRealBandito I know it most likely isn't that smart, but it is still ironic. Also, you never know how far Google's AIs have gone :/

@kisansab9129

4 жыл бұрын

I got an ade for Mayo

@opsoc777

4 жыл бұрын

I was confused for a second, then I realized, I have an adblocker. It's been so long...

@user-qb3kg1yj7h

4 жыл бұрын

Actually..." protect your IP with IPvanish!"

@Nickholast

4 жыл бұрын

@@opsoc777 same here!

Plot twist: hes just a hacker and hes tired of getting stoped by vpns (this is a joke, I dont care if vps dont stop hackers) Edit 2: this was supposed to be funny. You can stop trying to argue another point in the replies?

@emilianofernandezcervantes4042

3 жыл бұрын

VPNs do not stop hackers

@UlyssesSGrant-lg8lh

3 жыл бұрын

@@emilianofernandezcervantes4042 they kinda do

@christiannielsen1569

3 жыл бұрын

Kinda how?

@UlyssesSGrant-lg8lh

3 жыл бұрын

@@christiannielsen1569 they stop them from getting your location and data

@Sasujerk

3 жыл бұрын

@@UlyssesSGrant-lg8lh go watch Tom Scott's video on vpns and realise how wrong you are

When reading the comments, a counter-argument can be found for each argument: ''Use this. Do this. Don't use that, it's useless'' and so on. You can read the comments all day trying to find out how it really is, to get what is true and what is not, until you finally realize that no one really fully understands how it is. The more you read, the more you understand that.

@Antisocial19999

2 жыл бұрын

here's a like.

@donhoolieo4896

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the other side 😂

@throughfaithweunderstand4901

2 жыл бұрын

Man, does this ever sum up my experience trying to understand VPNs. The whole thing has always seemed like a bit of a religion; the adherents all zealously believe in it, but cannot provide any proof for why. It seems largely faith-based. Not that I'm entirely against that (hint: my name), it's just not enough for me to be sold on the whole thing.

NordVPN could've just used a VPN to protect themselves from the hacker attack

@dansmare1201

4 жыл бұрын

How didn't they think of that?

@terrawind287

4 жыл бұрын

200 IQ!

@LegalizeTheNuclearBomb

4 жыл бұрын

Warehouse was broken into it, nothing got hacked and no personal data was revealed because they don't keep logs.

@user-ro5ko3vs3c

4 жыл бұрын

That isn’t quite how it works kiddie, the attacks were formed when a company installed software on it that contained exploits that allowed the attacker to hack it, if they used an VPN on a VPN server would change nothing at all

@richtofen4888

4 жыл бұрын

Online Satanas Sorry kiddie, but OPs comment was a very obvious joke that only a smartarse like yourself would fail to notice.

I got a VPN ad before watching this.

@TheKeule33

4 жыл бұрын

what are ads?

@ancapftw9113

4 жыл бұрын

"With IP Vanish..." Skip

@luciusmarcin8811

4 жыл бұрын

Haha

@thenoseflap521

4 жыл бұрын

Algorithms

@xNoLiix

4 жыл бұрын

same, IPVanish for me 😂

Also, any time a service becomes large enough to be publicly recognizable; instantly becomes a target not only for hacking but also for corporate and political infiltration.

@EveryTimeV2

Жыл бұрын

So stop using online banking.

Glad some one is telling the truth. The real truth is privacy online has been dead for 10 years. The system was never built for privacy it was built to connect.

@user-yl4zj2hx2b

Жыл бұрын

No it hasn't lol how does this post have 30 likes ??

@paytonestrada7746

11 ай бұрын

You are stupid.

@justanotherguyful

11 ай бұрын

​@@user-yl4zj2hx2bi also noticed sometimes random braindead comments have a ridiculous number of likes. I wonder if some of these "top commenters" are using bots...

@loufbread26

11 ай бұрын

you sound like a person explaining connection in death stranding game 🤣

@VVS7600

8 ай бұрын

“Connect” isn’t the best word. That’s the humans/users manipulation of how we use technology but creators of all this internet? It’s to monitor

All I want to do is just watch stuff thats not available in my country.

@wandaphelps3152

3 жыл бұрын

I hear you! There are times I wonder sitting in front of the TV if I’m being watched ,OMG i go through the living room I always have a towel ,my dog barks for nothing..👀 it May sound like I’m deranged but I wonder everything that’s going on I wonder I can be talking about something to someone and all of a sudden it’s on my phone I didn’t look it up it just appears there. Thanks for listening I use my laptop looking up things that I’m interested in

@user-jv7sz7vh5y

3 жыл бұрын

@#medy actually nothing illegal just something that our governments afraid of lol

@samusgridman8843

3 жыл бұрын

Thank You! I'll bet The Secret Service (US Politicans bodyguards or whoever they are) use VPNs, & U.S. Military members & U.S. Air Force & The (US) SpaceForce (wait do they exist yet?) use 1 too!

@hap6782

3 жыл бұрын

Tor. And it's free, and it's more private

@ShadowSand147

3 жыл бұрын

@@andikatrin.2574 anime

Thats it I'm never using the internet.

@lollys2galaxy317

4 жыл бұрын

😋

@ChubboF

4 жыл бұрын

(Go's on internet)

@kowsalya.g8493

4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@DemonHeart719

4 жыл бұрын

Flyze that’s the joke

@guacamoli7

4 жыл бұрын

Alpi 545 why

Thank you man. Having no knowledge of networks and VPNs I still had a gut feeling that VPN providers can monitor your traffic if the decide to, what's to stop them. That was the answer I was looking for. Your video is great and to the point.

@notsure6222

2 жыл бұрын

There isn't a thing online that is be all end all and will solve your privacy issues completely. A vpn is a good layer of safety that makes the process of sniffing your traffic harder, but it's just that - another layer. Take what I said with a grain of salt, I'm not an expert myself, this is just my personal view on this, based on what I've read and what I know (limited information).

@Aerogrow

2 жыл бұрын

eh; just a bunch of fallacies and hand waving with very little facts. Was hoping for more. The basic premise; VPNs are not 100% privacy/infallible so they should not be used is a bit of a contrite fallacy. 99% of your basic users are perfect safe behind a VPN; if you are going to do a "severe felony" act of some sort; then VPN is not going to save you. ie: if your are using a certain hacked firestick or downloading illegal movies; good step to take and "probably" fine; if you are going to start a mail-order drug business; you going to jail. I still side on; don't do illegal shit anymore on interwebs; true anomity is pretty much gone without taking servere steps, shrug.... Proxy, onion, tor and VPN; along with a OS built around privacy (ie Kali) and no user-accounts / data / etc... Arguable they can still find you; just a matter of how much they want to spend.

@DavidHushio

2 ай бұрын

Indeed, maintaining complete anonymity is crucial. My DaoNet VPN Android apps requires no registration at all.

Me: searches for vpn youtube: Stop using VPN

@plazmaguy13yago9

2 жыл бұрын

Sus

Nice try FBI. I still ain’t gonna turn it off Edit: people below can’t comprehend the concept of satirical comedy

@qualityvideos1

3 жыл бұрын

Fax fuck that shit

@temudjin1155

3 жыл бұрын

LOL

@reesericdotci

3 жыл бұрын

Its fine to keep wasting your money for no real benefit besides confidence (I guess).

@80obsession

3 жыл бұрын

@@reesericdotci do u not know what a VPN does?

@temudjin1155

3 жыл бұрын

@@reesericdotci you have a contract for some services. Depending on the location of the company, they might not be subject to your isp complains, like on the isle of man. If they offer no logs as a service, they must respect contracts. Otherwise it's see you in court

I saw this in my feed today, finally, someone who understands that VPN's are NOT protection for privacy but simply an exit point somewhere else in the world and the provider can LOG everything.

@NeonNotch

2 жыл бұрын

As can your provider. As can the cell towers that you’re near. Etc. Just because they can does not mean you should stop using VPNs entirely.

You had my heart at LD's theme! Nice take. Appreciate time spent on this. Keep up the passion...

That’s it. I’m moving to Montana, starting a potato farm, and building my own ISP. Who’s with me?

@ditto9174

3 жыл бұрын

Me

@iamlight9198

3 жыл бұрын

I am

@marindraganov8765

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed but I am doing a tomato farm :)))

@andimal1

3 жыл бұрын

Too cold in Montana

@Zimmar

3 жыл бұрын

I might be movin' to Montana soon, just to raise me up a crop of Dental Floss

Wolfgang: “Don’t use a VPN” KZread Ad after video: “need a VPN? Get one here.”

@biggiedogs2505

3 жыл бұрын

Same here, bro.

@biggiedogs2505

3 жыл бұрын

Ouch.

@cougargold

3 жыл бұрын

@Don't Talk Zoomer: A bunch of shit hawks.

@Thapanirmal

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@cougargold

3 жыл бұрын

@s A l l e e You mean someone somewhere made the same comment under this video? Oh no!! Covid got you really bored...

definitely diving into your videos. Thank you so much for taking the ti to teach us that are green in the field. Have a great day

You use VPN to protect your privacy, i use VPN for visiting website censored by my government. WE'RE NOT THE SAME

Meanwhile KZread users in China: "Sure, I'm gonna stop using them right n

@dubcusb

4 жыл бұрын

@fakefirstname fakelastname lmao what are you talking abo

@Hypenexy

4 жыл бұрын

@fakefirstname fakelastname you wouldn't get it

@vladnex1741

4 жыл бұрын

@fakefirstname fakelastname ok boomer

@12isaac00

4 жыл бұрын

@fakefirstname fakelastname no u

@MrVuckFiacom

4 жыл бұрын

@fakefirstname fakelastname You do realize that not finishing sentences have been a part of jokes before people starting calling everything "memes"? Btw, joke =/= meme

I disagree with a few points here. I don't think VPNs are a flawed idea. But they're marketed in a way that is just deceptive.

@nabinrai749

4 жыл бұрын

You are still alive tesla?

@maximusextreme3725

3 жыл бұрын

@@nabinrai749 Um yeah, he's selling cars now, where you been??

@OFNDKing

3 жыл бұрын

maximusextreme No HE IS THE CAR

@nabinrai749

3 жыл бұрын

@@maximusextreme3725 i have been trying to stop using vpn ..sure time flies fast

@ViralShid

3 жыл бұрын

@@maximusextreme3725 that's Elon musk you fool

Stop using seatbelts for safety... because it might not save you. Yeah, that logic.

I trust my vpn more than I trust my ISP. Plus, it's not Nord throttling my connection to netflix

Stop using bad VPN's would be a better title.

@damian007567

4 жыл бұрын

But how do you know what is a good VPN? You only know that they are bad after they got hacked. But not before :D

@annekedebruyn7797

4 жыл бұрын

@@damian007567 There are VPNs out there that are very open. If you go to the expensive route you get even a server appointed to you. Moral of the story is, if your VPN is only a few bucks per month, it's probably shit.

@snowingfate6100

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@H11X11N

4 жыл бұрын

So what is the best trustworthy vpn?

@snowingfate6100

4 жыл бұрын

@@H11X11N Right now I dont know. Force your DNS sercive to open DNS your connection will be slow but I guess windscribe will have to do for now

A better title would be “Don’t rely on a VPN for privacy”, more accurate however is less clickbaity

@Nemoticon

4 жыл бұрын

But clickbait is how these guys make a living!

@pastoryoda2789

4 жыл бұрын

Big John Memes i agree

@hrvtk

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but that's the title

@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413

4 жыл бұрын

@@hrvtk he changed the title

@JG_08

3 жыл бұрын

I just use it to watch naruto Shippuden on Netflix

Another valid use case for VPN: livestreamers and social influencers concerned with bad actors (or just whiney script kiddies) from capturing their IP address

Dude that was the sponser ever. Thank you. cheers my friend & flysafe.

"There are minor exceptions" *Proceeds to state very good reasons for using a VPN*

@babybirdhome

4 жыл бұрын

Vaprin yes and you'll notice that those very good reasons for using a VPN service are almost never mentioned in any of the VPN service advertisements.

@squatch545

4 жыл бұрын

More media companies like Netflix and ESPN can detect if you're using a VPN, which they can now block. VPNs are slowly becoming useless.

@tomweh3710

4 жыл бұрын

@@squatch545 *becoming useless for watching netflix, as stated there are still valid reasons

@squatch545

4 жыл бұрын

@ProseColored Glasses Torrenting is also illegal. What does the legality of this have to do with anything anyway? This is a technical discussion of what reasons people might have for wanting to use a VPN.

@squatch545

4 жыл бұрын

@ProseColored Glasses Ok, in that case, yes....good point.

"Stop using vpns" Bruh I literally have to use a vpn to watch youtube

@WolfgangsChannel

4 жыл бұрын

Might as well use it to watch this video until the end 😁

@katrinabryce

4 жыл бұрын

I think a better title would be “stop using vpns for security”. Using them to get round content blocks is a valid use case, but it won’t make you any more secure.

@iagree3742

4 жыл бұрын

what country do you live in?

@arman4440

4 жыл бұрын

@@iagree3742 Iran

@iagree3742

4 жыл бұрын

@@arman4440 ... makes sense

Finally someone speaking sense while many other youtubers have commercials and sponsorship from vpn all the time... almost can't see any video related to tech without its sponsored by a vpn or the like Good this video 👍

Ultimately one of my primary reasons for using a VPN is privacy against my ISP and public networks. Which it does wonderfully.

@lelouchvibritannia4028

2 жыл бұрын

I need a VPN to play GTA 5 but I can't figure out which one is the best. Pretty much any R* game is not safe to play using any of their services because of their P2P servers and extremely outdated player security.

It's hard to believe that VPN companies aren't tracking and logging users' activity. It would be way too tempting to track users and amass huge volumes of data on people. That's where the real $$$ is. Not the $3/month subscription fee they collect.

@lightly-red-huedmaleindivi6266

2 жыл бұрын

Lifetime subscription VPNs double-dipping on the profits

@pointblank2890

Жыл бұрын

Its stupidly easy to create your own VPN, do sexy sleek marketing, and sell it to tech illiterate or tech heads that dont know when something is too good to be true.

@mrmcspiff4014

Жыл бұрын

Information collection is BIG business, and people are paying to send their info through a company. I guarantee that info is being sold somewhere, even if they label it as anonymous

@learn2farm509

Жыл бұрын

tons have been caught doing just that.. the power and coercion of government agencies are strong.. get your own client its the only way.. just like the crypto exchanges defeating the purpose of crypto by offering conveinance of instant transactions.. you lose all anonymity and all personal ownership of your crypto... run all these things on your side.. second you hand off security.. you introduced a whole host of new attack vectors.

@anarchy8968

Жыл бұрын

... and they get sued for a shitton of money after some 35 year old neckbeard deciphers them

This is hokum. One VPN service or server being compromised by a hacker does not negate the usefulness and security of most VPNs

@jayextarys8616

4 жыл бұрын

The only bad thing nordvpn did is that they didnt reveal the breach in time. I hope they learned their lesson.

@jayextarys8616

4 жыл бұрын

@flmvdvsrg I think what bothers most is the time it took them to tell that a server was compromised. (And the people just spreading rumors) There are some legit reasons to use a VPN - like banking on a public wifi tho it is better to do it at home on a wired device (paranoid much)

@Liberty_Prime199

4 жыл бұрын

His main argument is that you can't really trust the owners/operators of a VPN service, which is a 100% valid viewpoint in my opinion.

@marcusjackman1487

4 жыл бұрын

@Don Wallace You are, just as everyone else, entitled to your opinion. What he has said is all technically correct. However the message of this video is that VPNs are bad and as a whole useless so don't waste your time. I, personally, don't agree with that message. It offers more privacy than not using a VPN. I did enjoy the information about openVZ containers though.

@marcusjackman1487

4 жыл бұрын

@Don Wallace True, but it does require extra time and resources to go to the VPN provider and pull logs. It's more loops they'd have to go through.

Currently there is no way shape or form in the USA for anybody to speak freely without censorship ON EVERY PLATFORM.

people never consider the fact that i want whoever is spying on me to see the horrible things i say

VPN's are nice to have when you're on a school network that monitor every site you go to and give you a heavy-handed firewall blocking

@hidde3454

4 жыл бұрын

Tor browser and dns over https ?

@holysab7

4 жыл бұрын

Ok coomer

@Flea997

4 жыл бұрын

That's actually what he said in the end of the video

@hugorc343

4 жыл бұрын

Hidde 345 You clearly don't know how tor is for.

@dasdaasdasda1047

4 жыл бұрын

​@NZgamer How do they know that? The only way I can think of is to read the VPN server IP you are connecting to and check to see that it is a common VPN server. Your actual data is encrypted with https regardless of whether you are using a VPN or not. In which case you could try using tor, which is hosted by random volunteers .

This video is a little biased. You spend a lot of time telling us about how a VPN is bad and a false sense of security, then at the very end spend like ten seconds telling us that they're good for a handful of circumstances, which are likely the main circumstances that a VPN is used for. Instead of going for a clickbait title it would have been better to approach it as a "when a VPN is needed and when they are not", maybe with a guide on how to set one up yourself.

@uncannysnake

4 жыл бұрын

That would be in bad faith when the VPNs too market themselves as "Anti-NSA" to not be known as piracy companies.

@weridplusho

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed; a guide would be awesome.

@JosueRodriguez08

4 жыл бұрын

Why don't you make your own video in your own channel?

@gerot201

4 жыл бұрын

remember Edward snowman.... he sold to other countries

@kjartannn

4 жыл бұрын

@@gerot201 snowden*

my often accurate paranoia says: If I were a govt agency or govt employee whose job it was to track people's activity online, specifically people who attempt to hide their activity (meaning they are likely doing something they dont want the govt to see), I would create a vpn service. It would work perfectly, a vpn service run by the govt, disguised as an 'anti establishment' 'anti-govt' service that "keeps your data private", and people who want to hide their activity would voluntarily sign up for this vpn/trap, and would function as a pipeline of data to the govt, specifically from people trying to hide their data from the govt. i see youtube/google as part of the establishment, and if mainstream youtubers with big channels, who get paid by youtube, are advertising nordvpn, that is sketchy to me

@shinokami0076

Жыл бұрын

but most peoples are ignorant and will call you conspiracist

@twitchycorpse4378

Жыл бұрын

Well that would be illegal for the government to do

@LiEnby

8 ай бұрын

​​@@shinokami0076because it is conspiratory. It is completely possible that it's a government honeypot, but it's also equally possible that it's isnt.

@DrewPicklesTheDark

23 күн бұрын

@@twitchycorpse4378 Because the government has a perfect track record of following the law. /s

I feel like I've got the last puzzle piece to see a whole picture about VPNs) Thank you

If you want to stop me you'll have to find me first! **disappears into encrypted cyberspace*

There's a difference between wanting privacy and wanting anonymity. Anyone who uses a VPN for anonymity is not getting what they paid for, but VPN's are more than proxies. They specifically encapsulate your traffic inside of another protocol (the tunnel) so that it cant be inspected by any intermediary until its unpackaged at terminus.

@johnd1047

Жыл бұрын

You might not even have this account anymore, but if you do, and you’re feeling compassionate, I’d love a more simplistic understanding of your point? If that’s even at all possible.

@xXDESTINYMBXx

Жыл бұрын

@@johnd1047 a vpn is like instead of sending a postcard via post you put your postcard in locked box and then give it to the post services. The person who receives the box knows how to open it. A vpn does not give you anonymity because you can easily get tracked by a state actor that high-jacked the website you are visiting and then puts bad stuff inside the locked box to find out where it goes. I hope this was helpful

@johnd1047

Жыл бұрын

@@xXDESTINYMBXx ah okay that’s what I thought but had a very low resolution picture of, thank you! So like an added filter? Patriot act still says “f**k your rights” but at least employers couldn’t access it if you weren’t on their system.

@xXDESTINYMBXx

Жыл бұрын

@@johnd1047 a good vpn will give you good protection against any non state actor. There are still many attack vectors left tough. Website you acces etc.

@DerTypOfficial

Жыл бұрын

​@@xXDESTINYMBXx I agree but there's one important thing missing in explanaition. To stay with your comparison of the locked box, the person who knows how to unlock it is NOT the final destination of your postcard but the VPN provider. The final destination (Website, another Persons computer, etc.) wouldn't know how to open the box either. That's why you have to trust your VPN provider. And that's the Point Wolfgang mentioned in his video. You just have to choose weather you want your Service Provider to be able reading your Postcard or your VPN Provider. Therefore, VPN doesn't guarantee you any privacy over your ISP. But to be even more precisely I would explain it like that: Connections over http (not encrypted) are like sending postcards, EVERYONE can read them Connections over https (encrypted) is like sending a letter in an envelope. Not everyone can read your letter but an envelope is a common standard and there are possibilitys someone could extract some data / open the envelope oder see through it Connections over VPN (encrypted) is like putting your postcard OR letter in a locked Box, which will then be unlocked at the shipping service (VPN provider). They then deliver the CONTENT to the final adress. Keep in mind, that they may even use a 3rd company for delivery as any VPN provider probably uses another ISP. Even tho there is a way of end to end encryption, when you set up your own vpn, for example on your router and connect to it. Then the whole way between your device and your router is encrypted. You could also set up a vpn between your router and the router of a friend. Then all the communication and data between your routers will be encrypted. But any way AFTER the router isn't encrypted anymore.

I like how he mentions you might be a security conscious law abiding citizen or you could be a hacker, drug dealer, activist, or journalist. Hahahahaha! They are all criminals! This guy is clever and I love it!

@jakesharp3072

2 жыл бұрын

Well except for journalists. I mean journalists who report crimes committed by dictatorships are only criminals in the eyes of the dictators. Right?

IT'S ALWAYS THE UNDERRATED VID THAT'S LEGIT! THANK YOU!

Today’s sponsor: “Nord VPN” I would have died if he said that XD

@asaphakeim3614

3 жыл бұрын

For real

@LoganT547

3 жыл бұрын

For real

@randomuniverse8770

3 жыл бұрын

For real

@chalkpitbullwatermelon1897

3 жыл бұрын

For real

@supercat2087

3 жыл бұрын

I got an ad for nord vpn at the start XD

A better bit of advice would be to state that a VPN isn't a magic wand, but it is a legitimate privacy tool. Make sure that your privacy toolbox contains the right tools, that your tools are of high quality, that you know how to use them properly, that you know what each tool's limitation is, and how to combine your tools to provide adequate privacy coverage. This will vary from person to person, depending on their threat assessment. For Joe Six-pack who just wants to stream or torrent without getting nasty letters from their ISP, pretty much any VPN will do. For journalists living under a hostile dictatorship, they'll need a safe and solid VPN in addition to several other necessary tools and steps. And of course there is everything in between.

@BrainPermaDeD

Жыл бұрын

Also many raspberry pis as proxies.

@ChristopherGray00

Жыл бұрын

@@BrainPermaDeD Proxies (mostly) are not an encrypted line and that is an absolute must have for a VPN.

@augmentin5460

7 ай бұрын

Can you tell me more please, what are the other tools and steps you’d need

Thank you for this!

A more correct video would be - stop using VPN companies that you cannot trust.

@lightly-red-huedmaleindivi6266

2 жыл бұрын

ok so which ones CAN I trust?

@awagnow

Жыл бұрын

How do you distinguish between VPNs you can and cant trust? What makes you trust a VPN provider?

@hamburger9434

Жыл бұрын

@@awagnow mullvad vpn got raided by police and no customer data was found. So to trust a vpn we raid them

@louie.idkone

10 ай бұрын

@@awagnow Mullvad is quite trustworthy since they were literally raided and the police found absolutely no data 💀💀

feel like this video's title is wrong and misrepresented

@yee6365

4 жыл бұрын

its called clickbait

Real title: "Don't use VPNs based in the US and don't use VPNs for things that VPNs aren't actually good for."

@chozen_1309

3 жыл бұрын

Or in the 5 eyes or the 14 eyes ... DO your Research... there are trusted vpns out there. Also, if you're just streaming its really not a big deal. It's the ppl that are doing the dirty dirty stuff that should worry

@user-wq9mw2xz3j

3 жыл бұрын

@Grand Imperius Realize first why you need a VPN.. Do you live in a country where websites are blocked or you can't write whatever you want? Or just because so many youtube videos lately have had so many VPN ads, and it's getting so popular that you think it's a must for privacy, when in fact, it isn't, The "worst" thing I've done is just downloading a couple of torrents, and even though that's illegal, the chance of actually anybody caring for it is almost non existent. When I need/want to access a webpage or video that's blocked in my country, I just use a free vpn like Windscribe, 10gb per account and can easily make more (I don't stream videos on it or download stuff, so it lasts a long while)

@allenja0

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, any privacy concious US based company just simply shut-down once those laws went into effect. I forget the company, but the CEO refused to comply with the new laws on having to keep logs and provide them on demand without subpoenas or warrants... but he just shut his doors, like nope, fuck that.

@andrewferris8782

3 жыл бұрын

@@allenja0 It was Nerdshack, AKA Mailshack. Anonymous email, useful for scam baiting for one thing. CEO had priciples. Even though it messed up a bait I was doing, I respect him for it.

@acw7998

3 жыл бұрын

Grand Imperius Actually IPVanish is the worst. They are based in the US, Florida which means, they are forced to give out all logs to agencies like FBI NSA etc. because the US are part of the 5 eyes.

Tldr: your ISP will see "vpn mysterious activity?!?!" Instead of knowing what you're doing, and you can simulate being somewhere else in the world. But other than that, vpn isn't going to magically protect you.

wow thank you so much. no joke it is now so much easier and u explained it really good.

I'm only using VPN so I can pirate shit without my ISP telling me I can't do that

@TheLondonCyclist

4 жыл бұрын

Just get real debrid or premoumize. They do all the downloading for you and you download at full speed from them and no one can see what you're downloading, just that you're downloading a 50gb file from real debrid.

@smeekle2000

4 жыл бұрын

Unless they warned you before, they generally don't take action. If they do, change your provider. No snitching when they're getting your money

@WolfgangsChannel

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, get a seedbox. VPN is ok if you can afford forgetting to turn it on, but in some countries you can get in serious trouble for torrenting (e.g. Germany, Austria). Alternatively set up a docker container with a VPN killswitch

@zachb1706

4 жыл бұрын

yyyjyyyj dint take the risk, ISP’s by law must log and give information to the government if asked - depending on what country you are in of course.

@tristancruickshank7209

4 жыл бұрын

Ha same

I literally got an ipvanish VPN ad right before this.

@Ar021

4 жыл бұрын

NerdWorld same lol

Hello Wolfgang, thank you for sharing your knowledge around VPN's! Do you have any thoughts on Orchid (OXT) crypto based VPN regarding the points that you make in this video?

Me who still using vpn: "bruh I need that for crunchyroll...≥3≤"

*Welcome to the comments section! Please read this first:* Q: Who else got a VPN ad? A: Everyone did. The title has 'VPN' in it, so KZread puts VPN ads on the video Q: The title sucks! It should've been "stop using bad VPNs" or "stop using VPNs for wrong reasons" A: If I said "stop using bad VPNs" people would automatically assume their VPN is good. NordVPN, PIA and PureVPN were all considered "good" at some point. If the title was "stop using VPNs for wrong reasons", people would automatically assume their reason is valid. Q: What if I live in China/Russia/North Korea? A: There are good reasons for using a VPN and this is discussed in the video. Circumventing censorship is one of those reasons. Q: What if I want to torrent or watch porn? A: See previous answer Q: But without a VPN my ISP will be able to snoop on everything I'm doing! A: That's not true. HTTPS and SSL/TLS encrypt full URLs and contents of the websites you visit. Your ISP will still see the domain names, but so would the VPN provider. In some cases, if your ISP is affiliated with the government and you can get in serious trouble by browsing certain websites, it's reasonable to use VPN or Tor. However, for the most part, it's a choice between trusting a big ISP comany that resides in your country and trusting an anonymous nobody on the Internet who would have no accountability for misusing your data. Q: No A: Okay

@really296

4 жыл бұрын

I didnt get a VPN ad, but i did get a internet service ad. Close enough i believe you though.

@uniqhnd23

4 жыл бұрын

Use Doh to encrypt domain names. I recommend nextdns.io since it has an insane load of security features and pi hole level ad and tracker blocking

@WolfgangsChannel

4 жыл бұрын

IP address is not as useful to hackers as it used to be. Most ISPs assign dynamic IPs and utilize NATs. And since the number of devices per household increases, any kind of identity profiling has gotten very difficult. Plus, if you use a VPN for all your internet traffic, your identity will be linked with the VPN IP. Even if your VPN service has multiple IPs in different countries, those IPs are finite

@IvanferreroIt

4 жыл бұрын

How about hotels, public WiFi, or what i of someone intercept my connection? Is it safe not having a VPN? And: how does VPN improve my safety? I use a VPN right now: I do nothing illegal, I have nothing to hide, and yes Government has far more tools to spy on you. My only concern is bad people intercepting my connection and great informations such as passwords (emails, social networks, bank accounts) or credit card number (I buy only from big websites such as Amazon, Paypal, etc...). Thank you!

@SlideRSB

4 жыл бұрын

Front loading the comment section with rebuttals prior to people disagreeing. Well played. I still disagree.

Thanks, Wolfgang. Also I'd like to add that hosting your own VPN is a good method of reaching your localhost from anywhere in the world securely (through VPN split-tunneling) at a multi-layer service (bare-metal, VM and cloud) as long as you have ssh and a VPN client running.

In a nutshell: Don't try to protect your privacy because everything can be hacked.

@LiEnby

8 ай бұрын

Shit advice tbh

Does it count if I use Phone Guardian👀 I can't let go of ma boi Max!

Love your honesty and your concern for other people's privacy🔐. Refreshing to say the least. "Subbed 👍🏽"

@hamstermuncher6688

3 жыл бұрын

@guy behind the game why is that?

I used ExpressVPN for a while. I primarily only used it in public wifi areas, at hotels, conferences, etc. My initial concern came from people at tech conferences that I saw actively hacking the routers at the conference centers and just sitting and watching internet traffic. Some conference centers were either using outdated firmware with known vulnerabilities or in some cases setting ridiculously simple administrator passwords. Many people at conferences I have been do just to very blatant network scans as well, just trying to connect directly to shared drives over the network, over-trusting bluetooth devices, etc. A VPN won't protect you from direct attacks like that. I've heard a lot of people trying to use VPNs on public wifi for that reason, to which I always say to make sure you have a personal firewall or detection service on your machine. What I have found useful is having my own cloud account. Because I do a lot of cloud development, I have accounts on multiple cloud providers. I created a "hopping VPN" of my own that just jumps between clouds, services, regions, etc. with ephemeral IP addresses. Still limited range of IPs, but it's at least somewhat helpful. Through use of Terraform and a couple other tools, it's easy to get everything you need set up **FAST**.... but I'm also a software architect. I keep the Docker containers I use up-to-date with security patches, etc, which is part of my day-to-day job anyway. It's easier for me than the general public, but I am trying to think of ways to OSS my solution to help. I know it's only a small layer of protection, but when I'm in a public space I get paranoid about some of the bizarre things places do and restrict. We're in a state right now where privacy is a big concern, but there's also not much we can do about it. Everything has vulnerabilities and holes. I try to explain to corporate clients that even things like firewalls are merely a deterrent and not perfect, security and penetration scans only work for known things, etc. but it's rare people will listen. Many times, even for PCI compliance and other things, people scan once and never scan again nor set up active monitoring/logging for potential violations. Some new, innovative idea is needed - and I haven't seen one and haven't been able to think of one on my own... yet.

@lalalala-qc7cp

9 ай бұрын

valuable information thank you. even tho i don't understand anything about thsi field your explanation was very clear. but in a nutshell what vpn i should you ? what's the safest one

@simonwaffleman

9 ай бұрын

@@lalalala-qc7cp it depends. I find that most of the big name ones are "ok." Most of the big names are held accountable for "bait & switch" (where they protect you from your ISP seeing things, and they just sell it instead). I've had good luck with ExpressVPN (I specifically need global VPN for testing some stuff), I've *HEARD* (emphasis on heard) good things about Surfshark, NordVPN has a ton of people using it, CyberGhost is supposed to be good for people who travel a lot. I don't know must about Proton VPN, but they certainly have a heck of a showing out there and for the money they seem to be wonderful. If I was switching, I'd probably go Proton VPN at the moment for my own needs. Surfshark I think gives you more devices per account for less charge. I recommend looking up what your needs are. Such as "best VPN for simple home use" or "best VPN service for travel," etc. It's like when people ask me "what gun should I buy?" I always tell them "it's not about what I use, it's about what fits you, your comfort, and your usage/needs."

@vicvancen

5 ай бұрын

@@substance-1 ZenMate VPN or CyberGhost. They are situated in the EU and have stricter data protection laws.

Don't agree on few things but it was a very nice video! Well done and keep it up 👍

Me reading the title: "Stop using VPN's for piracy" *panic* Me reading again: "pRIVacy not pIRacy" *calm*

VPN's are fine for privacy, to be anonymous however use tails/tor etc. Privacy and anonymity are two very different things, you take your threat model into consideration and decide how much work and care you need to put in for whatever you're doing. This is pure clickbait.

@AdobeAirpods

3 жыл бұрын

Tor is good as well as proxy chains

@ifsck

3 жыл бұрын

The video completely failed to make that distinction, so thank you for bringing it up. Want something unavailable in your country? A quality VPN is fine. Need to stay anonymous for reasons? You need more than a commercial VPN and the information you're after isn't gonna be from some kid on youtube.

@athallahreyhan4896

3 жыл бұрын

It's safe to use VPN basically right?

@AdobeAirpods

3 жыл бұрын

@@athallahreyhan4896 for basic stuff like torrenting yea

@athallahreyhan4896

3 жыл бұрын

@@B-DINO I wanna use a free VPN to save money. If you were me would you use a free VPN or would you rather just use the legit ones?

Basically: Passwords have been hacked before. So stop using passwords.

@raman249

4 жыл бұрын

so do u need to pay for passwords too?

@WolfgangsChannel

4 жыл бұрын

Passwords are not inherently flawed services that can only stay afloat by the means of aggressive marketing and often, data collection. Your analogy is false.

@godbody2356

4 жыл бұрын

@@WolfgangsChannel The flaw IS inherent if it can be hacked. And if passwords aren't aggressively marketed, then how is it that people know MORE about passwords than VPNs? If manufacturers put VPNs on every device, they would be known/marketed as aggressively as passwords. So the only difference left is data collection. And in the context of @Wooty Wooter's analogy, it's a distinction without a difference because data collection doesn't change the following logic: just because something has been hacked before, doesn't mean it cannot provide general protection.

@merriejones6233

4 жыл бұрын

Yah; ...and why do we need doors when we poop too!

@brolysmash9333

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly, use certificate instead right? Lol

thanks for the help it help my every thing i need to install

I don't live in the US and when using a VPN I think about whether I can access the site at all, not about how anonymous it will be :)

There wasn't anything presented here to deter me from using a VPN. Hopefully, anyone using a VPN understands what it offers and those that don't know what is being offered are probably not being harmed.

@learn2farm509

Жыл бұрын

using a vpn is ok.. using a remotely ran one iswhere the issue is.. get your own client on your side of the network... there is no telling the amount of real world this caused as the hackers that got into my system are definately government... a loan hacker is not writting custom script to match my use cases across every single device including tons of proprietary devices and virtualizing copies of all of them and using microsoft asf servers to run biometric software for my video and audio feeds... there is not alot of profit in it.. nothing stolen now accounts ransomed nothing..just surveillance and data.. particularly the biometrics.. with that they could do a ton... dont like it one bit.

@learn2farm509

Жыл бұрын

again.. this includes windows built in proxy function.. dont use them.. use open source on built in on the device forms.. personally open source feels more secure as your still relying on the integrity of the company who sells the vpn intergrated device... but im doing that bc it comes with many other security functions like segmentation and isolation using vm on every device as a secondary security wall

@WayneTwitch

Жыл бұрын

I bet you use Norton as well XD

@vivek_sankath

10 ай бұрын

@@WayneTwitch XD

Thanks for the video! Here is another use case, your ISP throttles your connection based on what you are doing... with a VPN they can't use this technique to throttle your connection because they don't know what you are doing.

@Liggliluff

4 жыл бұрын

Then they'll throttle VPNs if those get popular enough

@Nickholast

4 жыл бұрын

@@Liggliluff then, they'll be losing customers.

@OmegaF77

4 жыл бұрын

@@DARTHMOBIUS Tor was technically created by the government anyways so selling out to NSA is like me selling out to grandma when she gave me a $20 bill for Christmas.

@Liggliluff

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nickholast Aren't they already by throttling? This is why we need net neutrality. Data is data, and shouldn't be charged based on what it is or its usage.

@annekedebruyn7797

4 жыл бұрын

@@DARTHMOBIUS Holy shit this is so wrong. Stop pretending to be smart please. First of all, TOR was co-funded and developed by the US. Second, it wasn't sold out to the NSA. There is exactly zero information on the web. Anyone can create nodes and gather data from it or hijack browsers if you are stupid enough to allow scripts.

Allot of people use VPN's to gain access to video content on other countries which are restricted by regions. Myself, i dont have any VPN's for my use. Just came across this video to see what you talk about. Thanks for this video.

The main reason I use VPNs is because of geo-locked websites that normally can't be accessed in my country, plus it's more recommended that you use one for "pirating" while torrenting.

I like how "journalist" got lumped together with "drug dealers"

@freedomforgames

4 жыл бұрын

And activist

@apexace2002

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, that does a disservice to drug dealers.

@viinisaari

4 жыл бұрын

I hold all of the three in high regard.

@whiteduck5563

4 жыл бұрын

Well to the eyes of government, they all are criminals

@mikebrady7110

4 жыл бұрын

ikr (well, except for CNN)

Appreciate this candid tutorial on VPNs ...I currently live abroad in a controversial country where one should cover their tracks when navigating online...being careful has become an established habit.

@fufnulius1

Жыл бұрын

If you connect to a VPN server outside of your country, which is the point in your case. It’s unlikely the country that has the vpn server will force the vpn provider the logs to your country

"I don't trust a certified company with my personal data... so I will give my data to another uncertified company, probably the cheapest one I can find"

@lightly-red-huedmaleindivi6266

2 жыл бұрын

"thank goodness I gave my data to uncertified company because certified company would send a DMCA letter to my house and sue me without uncertified company around to brush off what my data actually is"

I enjoyed the video. I have been using panda vpn for a year because I have been using it so well!

You basically only make two arguments, and they are really weak. *Logging* - Sure, your VPN may be logging your traffic. Maybe. One thing is for certain. Your ISP is _definitely_ logging your traffic. So in this situation, a VPN may help, but it certainly won't hurt. VPN companies stake their entire business on their reputation for providing privacy. When that is compromised, their business falls apart. This is a huge incentive for them to actually do a good job here. Yes there are perverse incentives like you mentioned, but those only pay off in the short term. Reputable companies that have been around a while and are based in countries that respect privacy are likely to have good privacy and security practices. *Identification* - You say that as soon as you use the VPN to access something like facebook, it reveals everything else you do from that IP address. This is not true. That IP address is likely shared by many other people so there is far too much noise to distinguish the users. Rolling your own VPN on a VPS does not give you anonymity. That IP address can be directly linked back to you, just like your normal IP.

@Caplin94

4 жыл бұрын

Logging: This is a pure "Who do you trust more?" question. I personaly trust my ISP more (with non-critical data and i am not from the USA) , then some offshore 3rd-party service that could be easily owned by a foreign goverment and used as a honeypot. Identification: Nobody really cares about your IP anyway, there are far better ways to identify somebody. And VPNs don't help you against it. Using your own VPN is useless? ...what's the point? Sorry, i normaly don't like to be rude but.... this statement is just retarded. If you have a vServer in a different country you can still use it against GeoBlocking and your personal VPN still encrypts your traffic on a public wifi. VPNs where never ment for anonymity.

@NeverSuspects

4 жыл бұрын

Your ISP has a strong incentive to maintain its customers approval. You send them a big check every month and some of us have been sending that check every month for 20 years, as for security you really should be using encryption for everything.

@h.l.phillips3175

4 жыл бұрын

@@7ngel Facebook is a joke. Only the v unsavvy use!

@Professional_Youtube_Commenter

4 жыл бұрын

@@7ngel using a vpn on steam will get you banned as a cheater. Cheaters who get banned used vpns to rejoin and cheat.

@Kriae

4 жыл бұрын

The honeypot thing seems more like a thing to scare people from using VPNs than a real threat that has a chance of happening. With your ISP it's a 100% chance that they're logging everything (for most countries)

Nord actually got audited to verify their “no logs” claim as legit.

@WolfgangsChannel

4 жыл бұрын

Well, look how that turned out

@NeoCreo1

4 жыл бұрын

Wolfgang's Channel Pretty well? No user data was taken because no logs were kept.

@starfoxdelta

4 жыл бұрын

@@NeoCreo1 For real?

@NeoCreo1

4 жыл бұрын

Star Foxdelta Hmm?

@starfoxdelta

4 жыл бұрын

@@NeoCreo1 They really found no data since there were no logs?

what kind of keyboard do you have & what wall mount do you use also thanks

This isn't a reason not to use a vpn it's just pointing out that a lot of people have been mislead. That doesn't mean you shouldn't use them you just need to be me more aware of what it's actually doing. It's not a perfect solution but it is part of one. And make sure you choose your vpn carefully, do your research first don't just trust a youtube sponsorship.

7 minute video why you shoukdn't use a VPN Piracy: "i'm about to end this man whole career"

God no. They know what Netflix shows I watch.

@tristancruickshank7209

4 жыл бұрын

“Netflix”

@davidc.2164

4 жыл бұрын

It’s a joke dude 😅 Tristan Cruickshank

@ikramrafi6481

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidc.2164 that's a joke too

@budgetmomph1802

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@dinod7687

3 жыл бұрын

They know all incest porn u watch

I had Zero idea! Thank you 😊❤❤❤

@Wolfgang I was looking at getting a VPN to protect against DDoS attacks while gaming on XBOX. What do you recommend for that?

When you show your viewing audience something on the screen TO READ, perhaps you could possibly flash it even faster so there is absolutely no time to read what you have presented for them TO READ! Thanks.

@brutus3631

2 жыл бұрын

just pause the video

@m.e.bentoo2271

2 жыл бұрын

@@brutus3631 Yeah, I already knew dat, But, I watch a lot of stuff, research, info, curiosity, enjoyment - a lot, and almost always have to pause, which isn't how I prefer to watch so many videos. I don't look at them for the sheer enjoyment of constantly "having to" pause them. For one thing, in totality, it is wasteful time comsuming. Same applies to volume. My computers' volume is 100% and the video is 100% but still can't hear the voices probably because they didn't make sure their volume recording is high enough so that, if anything, I have to turn mine down. One thing is for sure, when I run into these irritations, I stop watching and they lose a viewer. Oh well, as Fleetwood Mac once wrote.

@brutus3631

2 жыл бұрын

@@m.e.bentoo2271 honestly i absolutely understand your point, i guess im just used to watching content that sometimes requires pausing

@m.e.bentoo2271

2 жыл бұрын

@@brutus3631 So am I. In fact, I pause a lot, ponder, use dictionaries, review from other sources and so on. I'm sure (assuming of course), you do as well. Many times, time is of the essence, and having to eat while viewing as one example and wanting to kill two birds with one stone, my hunger for information and food, the video forces me to pause over and over again. This is true because of my complaints. That I don't like. Maybe they skip past or fast trying to ignore a contradiction, to mislead or ignore or outright deceive the viewer. I don't know, but my experience of videos, movies and other visual presentations is they should be, as a sort of requirement, smooth and well paced and IF there is content to read, really, enough time to do so. Let me pause when and where. Don't force me. Now I'm not better than anyone else nor special but I am better than this kind of situation. And so are you. Thus, I won't watch their video. Don't they want me to? Having written a lot (books, screenplays, business plans, grant proposals, mission statements, financial projections, summaries, presentations, etc.), I know ones' premise is of utmost importance. If your audience doesn't buy, accept or believe your premise, your play is tossed, your plans rejected, your request denied. That's one reason why if you don't buy, say, a movies' "opening premise" and it's in the very beginning, if you leave in the first 20 minutes, you may ask for and legally request your money back. Did you go to a movie theater expecting starts and stops? No. Are you better than everyone else? No. But you are better than the situation. They want their money but are legally obligated to refund it. Do they want you to watch, like and subscribe? Yep. Then do it right. Those are the ones I watch, like and subscribe to.

@jazzman1626

2 жыл бұрын

I often play you tube videos on my TV with the sound via my hifi and sometimes have to turn up the volume on a quiet recording. Then I forget about the volume and when the next properly recorded video comes on, it near bursts my ear drums and both me and the cat jump out of our skins lol.

that's it, I'm gonna set my PC on fire

@awesomegamer9871

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣 do it

@xapakyriakoudi1524

2 жыл бұрын

HAHAH

An ISP may care about torrenting, an VPN service probably won't. It's an easily accessible extra layer of protection against lawsuits. If you only use it for downloading Linux ISOs and buying digital services abroad, you're probably fine. Just don't route all your traffic through it.

Dino told Fred not to get VPN. Wilma told Betty Fred was crazy listening to a Dinosaur. Betty told Barney let's get that shit. Pebbles said it was a good idea and Bam-Bam said Bam Bam, Bam Bam Bam.

Blanket statements like "Stop using VPN for Privacy" are not helpful, and are not based upon accurate network security fundamental principles. It really depends upon what you are doing at any given moment on your system, whether or not a VPN service is the correct choice to protect your privacy. If you want to protect your internet activities from the the prying eyes of your ISP then a reputable, stable, regularly audited VPN service is a good choice. It is not advisable to run the service all the time on your primary system but when you want your activity to encrypted, turn it on, and turn it off when you are done. Other options like proxy etc... will not shield you data from your ISP or the many routers your data will travel through during your internet session. All you have to do to confirm that is take a look at your own router traffic history logs when connected to VPN and when not connected to vpn. If your own personal router can identify your data traffic, so can your ISP. Simple as that. NordVPN experienced a hacking event, and they adjusted their practices based upon that event, and many other VPN providers followed suit, and now openly share security audit reports regularly to assure their customers they are doing everything they can and should do to protect their data. That said, I'm not advocating for or against any particular VPN provider. The choice of a provider is something an individual should research for themselves. Bottom line is network security and privacy are complex subjects and valid recommendations cannot be made with over-broad statements like the title of this video. How you protect your data, and/or your user's data (if you are an admin or engineer) really depends on the nature of the data, how it's being accessed, and who you are trying to prevent from seeing the data traffic.

@p5eudo883

3 жыл бұрын

@@s0lth885 ISPs take part in mass tracking and probably sharing/selling of your data. A reputable VPN -probably- won't engage in that behavior, and some actually have guarantees. A good VPN is better for privacy than no VPN.

@p5eudo883

3 жыл бұрын

@@s0lth885 Indeed. Some allow alternative payment methods, like store gift cards too.

@keithd.2722

3 жыл бұрын

Most of the people using VPN services today are just being scammed into paying for two ISPs and accessing the second ISP through the first ISP. Just choose a reputable ISP and you don't need to worry about choosing a reputable VPN service provider. If you're willing to do adequate homework to find what would be a reputable VPN provider for your use cases, then you will rarely need said VPN provider in the first place. If you're not willing or qualified to do that homework, then you're not qualified to be using a VPN to protect yourself at all, and if you do use one to "protect yourself" from some threat or another, then you're treading on very dangerous ground where you're likely not actually protecting yourself from that threat in the first place, and you can only believe you are because your actual risk was just that low in the first place. Choosing a VPN service provider for the correct reasons and not for things that they don't actually do, and then using that VPN correctly to protect yourself from whatever threats you're facing is incredibly complicated. If you're not qualified to work through those complications (hint: if you're not making well into 6 figures doing this for a living, then you're not qualified), you need to understand that you're almost certainly not protected from what you believe you're protected from by using your VPN service. There are A LOT of intricacies to evaluating this stuff and doing it correctly, and even your average IT admin doesn't know what most of those intricacies are, because very few targets actually face those kinds of risks in the real world.

@contrawise

3 жыл бұрын

The idea that your ISP will not track you, because you are their customer, so they will naturally want to be nice to you? I don't have the lung capacity to laugh loud enough. Several of the biggest ISPs are also cell providers. Please remember the scandal that several large cell providers were making tower login data available, *sold on the open market,* so stalkers could keep stalking the objects of their twisted affection!! They didn't didn't think twice about the practice until they were caught, and dragged through the sewer, by the good old main-stream media. If they could figure out a way to install trackers in the rivets of your jeans, they'd do it. I *absolutely* trust my VPN provider more than my ISP. Until we can restore the legal framework that makes it punishable for an ISP to provide its customers personal data, I'll be using a VPN on a fairly regular basis.

@luxemag4347

3 жыл бұрын

@@keithd.2722 A lot a FUD and very little actionable content. A lot of unfounded assumptions. A couple of patently false ones. I'm a network protocol engineer and I dissapprove your message.

The thing about having your password stolen that, sure you might have your whole bank account robbed and lose everything, but you have to remember is that money isn't everything. The thing that matters most in life is having strangers like your comment on the Internet. That's what real happiness is and no amount of money can make up for that.

@Jonaslobo20

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like someone should stop weed 🤣😂👍

@FreeJulianAssange23

3 жыл бұрын

🤣😂🤣😂

@nuclear_muffin5600

3 жыл бұрын

Biometric and multifactor security exists. Even if someone were to get your credit card number chances are they would be living somewhere else in the US or other. Banks have particular security in which users have to perform multi factor verification. Via gmail,email,phone number,location,biometrics,ect.

@azophi

3 жыл бұрын

@@nuclear_muffin5600 r/wooooosh

@hazeleyezluv

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂 Yes. Yes.

In the words of Tom Scott, VPNs are perfect for gay people, pirates, assassins, and gay pirate assassins

Man I accidentally bought a nord VPN because i didn't cancel the free trial, so I thought "welp Maybe I can get something out of this" and I see this video. Pain

@spiralingsphere3785

2 жыл бұрын

Anything with a free trial is already a scam. They don't believe enough in their product to give it out for free for 1-2 days without a payment to fall back on.

@lightly-red-huedmaleindivi6266

2 жыл бұрын

don't feel pain because Nord VPN is one of the better non-14 eyes VPNs and the video maker is a misleading asshole who conveniently did not mention that Nord breach didn't get attackers to access to data flowing through the server. They got access to a key, that could be used to fake their own server to seem like a Nord VPN server. But it is nether proofed, that this was used, nor did it affect most of the servers. Meaning Nord VPN was pretty much unaffected and the users were all safe.

Great video. I use expressVPN from Europe to access some of the geolocated content from my US streaming providers. While I think this is a good use case, sending all your traffic through a single point is a bit concerning. The things that people do for HBO!

Great video apart from the fact that you don't give a solution? How about Tor?

All I know is when my VPN is on my isp stops complaining about my eye patch and peg leg.

@shinokami0076

Жыл бұрын

the topic is: do you trust vpn company over your isp or govermnent?

What if I build my own VPN server, put it in Switzerland and go to Antarctica where there is no state?

@vdochev

4 жыл бұрын

I was wondering the same thing.

@ChrisJones-rd4wb

4 жыл бұрын

Putty SSH tunnel is easier

@CrissPivot

4 жыл бұрын

You can do that with a NAS

@thelongslowgoodbye

4 жыл бұрын

That already exists... ProtonVPN is based in Switzerland.

@elektron2kim666

4 жыл бұрын

Some science team is using the wire or whatever in Antarctica.

"Stop using VPNs" just don't use the Internet at all Edit: Thanks for the 400 likes

@yemmingtion

3 жыл бұрын

Marshal Murat wait huh

@hilalbolat9890

3 жыл бұрын

@@militaryjunkie6207 why would it matter to police or fbi seeing your stuff we are worthless to them

@TheDukeOfZill

3 жыл бұрын

install Temple OS

@Afitkid

3 жыл бұрын

Redinvite

@user-wq9mw2xz3j

3 жыл бұрын

@@hilalbolat9890 if you or any relative/friend ever decides to protest against the government, everything can be used against them. In the US, that is already a problem right now. Even worse so in most disctatorships, especially China, NK, HK, Taiwan, Thailand etc. Otherwise there is not a big chance they the gov. will use it against you, but never say never. It's also not just about governments but about hackers trying to steal your private information and possibly your money, or just random companies wanting more information from you so they can advertise more efficiently

Basically, VPNs are just classic tunnels, with some added security based on the config. The most common use case ? Being able to reach other networks without sending traffic unencrypted. For corporates that is both remote access VPNs and S2S tunnels (when they cheap out on leased lines) and for consumers, remote access. So as Wolfgang said - use it to access services that would normally not be available from your network (country), as that is and always was the intended use of a VPN. VPNs were never meant to be a privacy tool, although they can be used as such to a degree - aka Tunnel > Jumphost > tunnel > jumphost > etc etc. But then you're just reinventing the wheel of TOR.

You use VPNs for privacy, I use VPNs so I can watch KZread. We are not the same.

I need them for TOR, Torrenting, and Zeronet hosting. VPNs are not for you average users

@XXDarkDrekXX

4 жыл бұрын

hi, fellow zeronet user

@papabones8753

4 жыл бұрын

The last line is absolutely true. They are shilled everywhere but 99% of users don't do any of the above mentioned.

@sephisg.9127

4 жыл бұрын

you forgot porn

@IMaiaPT

4 жыл бұрын

I hope you are not using torrent over tor, that makes you a dumbass and miss informed

@ChrisJones-rd4wb

4 жыл бұрын

@@IMaiaPT Wow no shit Sherlock. Im just paranoid and don't want my ISP to see me connect to TOR