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  • @LironSegev
    @LironSegev Жыл бұрын

    "what if your house burns down or NAS is stolen" - Most of us connect an external drive to the NAS, back up the important data to it automatically, and then put it in a Fireproof & Waterproof safe along with our passports/ wills and other important stuff. Rotate it with last month's backup drive. Don't have a safe? keep the external drive in your car/ parent's house. "Cloud providers, they don't go down" - eh... nope. Just google "google services down" and see that 3 days ago (at the time of writing this) it was down. "Can you backup the NAS offsite?" - 100% - you can do a NAS-to-NAS backup. So you take your nas and it gets backed up to your NAS located in your office or your parent's house. In fact, you can set up the NAS for your parents/ brothers/ sisters and you become each other's backup. If you want to, use CloudSyc to back up your data from your NAS to the Cloud and visa versa. So when Google goes down, or if you are locked out of your Google account, you can still access your stuff. You can use BackBlaze too. I want MY data to remain under MY control. If you don't and trust Cloud providers, by all means - you do that. Just please back up your stuff - and NOT just your documents. I have been in this industry for a long time and I 100% know that the same people who come up with all the excuses of why "on prem NAS is a bad idea", are the same people who will bitch and moan WHEN they lose their data and have to rebuild their entire system because they only backed up some data so they can make use of the "free storage". But hey, you can use whatever you want - there is no one-solution-fits-all.

  • @jbooks888

    @jbooks888

    Жыл бұрын

    EXACTLY

  • @Apeiron242

    @Apeiron242

    Жыл бұрын

    Or, I could use the storage that comes with my MS Office account. It doesn't cost me more, their servers would be pretty hard to steal, and if their server building burns down they probably have a back up of that....

  • @travislehman9275

    @travislehman9275

    Жыл бұрын

    I do a combo of Synology Drive and then backup crucial data using AWS Glacier

  • @gregg5958

    @gregg5958

    11 ай бұрын

    Some people don’t have living parents or family members that they could (or would want) to store data at. So for some people this idea is more challenging and more of an expense as now you are talking about renting a storage unit or safety deposit box and making regular trips to them to swap drives. But….what if you have no transportation or mobility or the finances to do that?

  • @iZacq

    @iZacq

    11 ай бұрын

    Time 0:42 How to encrypt the External SSD drive

  • @EyeOnSciFiPod
    @EyeOnSciFiPod Жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately, my house burned down in 2021. My family and I are fine, but we lost almost everything. Fortunately, my data is backed up on the cloud and it was hassle-free to access my data. NAS systems are great for those who can afford it, but it IS a physical system you must maintain and it's vulnerable to fire, natural disasters, and theft. Cloud storage is off-site and that's the biggest selling point for me. I'll stick with my external hard drive and my cloud storage option. It works for me.

  • @dcentral

    @dcentral

    Жыл бұрын

    Cloud Storage are physical data storage facilities that are also at risk to electrical fires, natural disasters, terrorism etc… The solution is to have dual storage setups at different physical locations. Homeowners should have fire rated storage boxes/safes where you can keep your hard-drives.

  • @keithsmith3118

    @keithsmith3118

    Жыл бұрын

    There's nothing wrong with local NAS and cloud backup. The cloud backup would be your offsite NAS. Your local NAS can still handle all of your needs with the added advantage of you being to control the data the way you want. Cloud services can have some funky rules, especially when it comes to how you share data with others.

  • @aliservan7188

    @aliservan7188

    Жыл бұрын

    @@keithsmith3118 It's just too expensive for large amounts of data but for local, critical files, absolutely!

  • @prashanthb6521

    @prashanthb6521

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you mean houses get burnt every month or is it a rare occurrence ? For my work I run 3 local machines holding 3 copies with ZFS raidz1 file system.

  • @LK-bz9sk

    @LK-bz9sk

    Жыл бұрын

    Fire, flooding, theft….now you have a device that needs protection from all three…….I agree with your strategy and sorry you lost your home in 2021

  • @AarizDanish2023
    @AarizDanish2023 Жыл бұрын

    A few years ago, I had set up something comparable. However, both hard disks were damaged by an unfortunate lightning surge, resulting in their failure. Therefore, I chose to continue using cloud storage.

  • @kat75085

    @kat75085

    8 ай бұрын

    I had the same, my NAS ran on it's own OS and it died, fortunately I was able to remove the HDD and, eventually, with a lot help from University Google was able to retrieve most of the data. Now I'm totally won on Cloud storage.

  • @kystars
    @kystars Жыл бұрын

    I LOVE Liron Segev and his channel. I have learned SO MUCH from him, I would be totally lost otherwise. Thank you very much!!

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    Great to hear!

  • @user-3tf67bk46u

    @user-3tf67bk46u

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LironSegev At 4:35 I saw "! All your data will be deleted and is irreversible!" Could please elaborate what this means? It had to do with the start of software install I think but I'm not very familiar with this topic. I do get that this is physical back-up vs cloud tho.

  • @mightymight365
    @mightymight365 Жыл бұрын

    That's why I wish they never got rid of DVDs. The DVD media itself isn't prone to shocks, floods, hackers, malware, extreme temps, or data depletion. Only scratches and fire. DVD's, if kept safely and securely, can lasts 100yrs. I saved all my pictures on dvd in the early years. I just wished they improved it. Imagine 100gb Dvd that are as fast as ssd.

  • @weevie833

    @weevie833

    Жыл бұрын

    The claim that they last eternally is contingent upon the integrity of the reflective layer. If that flakes or chips, you're dead. Who knows how long they will last, and moreover, whether you will ever be able to locate a working device to mount them?

  • @purpleghost4083

    @purpleghost4083

    Жыл бұрын

    Who is they? You can still use recordable DVD. As for improvements, although I haven't used them yet, there's the M-DISC recordable DVDs. Recordable Blu-ray (BD-R) does 25GB on a single layer disc, 50GB on a 2 layer disc, BDXL uses 3 and 4 layers to extend the capacity to 100GB & 128GB. Except for the 128GB version, these are also in M-DISC.

  • @ChatGTA345

    @ChatGTA345

    Жыл бұрын

    Problem with blu-rays and DVDs is they're unfortunately quite small for a data hoarder use case. Tape on the other hand can be that ultimate archival storage - it can store truly enormous amounts of data, last decades and be much cheaper than any other existing media (e.g. one cassette costing several $10 can store multiple TBs of data). This is also what cloud providers use for their cheap "archival" class storage (but unfortunately charge premium when you need to restore..)

  • @TechSway

    @TechSway

    Жыл бұрын

    DVDs as well as CDs suffer from disc rot caused by more than just fire and scratches e.g. UV damage, oxidation of the reflective layer, de-bonding of the adhesive used in layers (extreme temps of or - could cause this) but the fact they could barely handle being loose in a bag for 1 day meant they were always destined for the e-waste pile.

  • @ChatGTA345

    @ChatGTA345

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TechSway Agreed. And every type of storage media has its weak points, there's no one size that fits all.

  • @leosoundtrack
    @leosoundtrack Жыл бұрын

    For anyone at higher risk (of theft or natural disaster, for example), it is sensible to employ both local and cloud backup solutions.

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    true - that is ideal. But a fireproof safe with a network port takes care of that 👍

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    @Jason Westaway ja its just beyond ridiculous now

  • @steamfan007

    @steamfan007

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LironSegev I can't find one. Suggestions/recommendations?

  • @zeeksthegoblin7564

    @zeeksthegoblin7564

    Жыл бұрын

    So true. Cloud usually has file versions so if corrupted or encrypted files (virus related) get synced to local backup you can use the cloud to restore the files.

  • @subrec

    @subrec

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly! A local NAS provides no local redundancy. So when your house burns down/floods out/is otherwise destroyed, your data is gone with it. That’s the whole reason you have a backup, and a local copy does nothing to protect you. Plus you don’t have to maintain a service. Just pay a bill. Drive failures, data corruption, electricity/cooling/rent/noise all someone else’s problem. Pick your provider carefully. Ensure you have the level of security and privacy that you desire, and just pay a bill.

  • @StormChaserZ
    @StormChaserZ Жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately I am one of the few that couldn't afford the price for this so what I ended up doing instead is I own probably 5 backup HDD's that are encrypted and I use a simple adapter to copy/transfer all my files to every single drive and then put each drive in a locked, fire/water proof safe. Tedious but works like a charm. For my phone however I back it up to my pc or keep files local that I need but also I am one of the few that rarely leaves my home. Great video though as I have been wondering about this. Tired of Google Drive and am really not liking or trusting Google Photos as much anymore. I only put what I am willing to lose on those with zero personal info and back it up to the hdds weekly. *As a side note I also have 3 backup clone drives for my pc specifically. Something very few people I personally know do. Its amazing how many people get so upset when their hdd or ssd fails and their computer doesn't boot anymore and wonder what to do. I work on pcs all the time and these are amongst the most common calls for service.

  • @nickthenasguy

    @nickthenasguy

    Жыл бұрын

    Synology has a ton of way more affordable options on their site that you should look into. They make it super accessible for anyone trying to get into NAS.

  • @placesonthelist
    @placesonthelist Жыл бұрын

    I got one a couple of years ago. The setup is a little more complicated than how you explained it. There are several channels dedicated to NAS usage that show you step by step setup. I also spent Covid copying all of my movies onto the NAS and setup Plex.

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    The software have come a long way in a couple of years - so what used to be a lot more complicated, is now literally the wizard. You just need to go through it. This isn't meant to be a step-by-step guide but an option for people's data storage.

  • @michaelsechler4709

    @michaelsechler4709

    Жыл бұрын

    Does the Plex work directly from the NAS? I would love that. I have a small business and a personal use for such a system.

  • @placesonthelist

    @placesonthelist

    Жыл бұрын

    @Michael Sechler Plex runs on the NAS, and then you can view it on any device that runs the plex app. When you rip your media, just make sure you name it like plex likes it. It saves some time when plex identifies it. There are a lot of KZread videos about setting up plex on a nas.

  • @gordon8130

    @gordon8130

    11 ай бұрын

    Does it have 256 bit encryption? From debice to storage cloud

  • @richard1113
    @richard1113 Жыл бұрын

    Their software has definitely come a ways. When I set up my DS220j a couple years ago I had no idea what I was doing. I have it as my backup storage for Time Machine and it acts as a de facto media server. I'm sure it's capable of more as there are a ton of apps I'm currently not using.

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    100% there is so much stuff in there!

  • @jaspermcfly2765
    @jaspermcfly27659 ай бұрын

    Nice video. I also use Synology - the NAS DS220j two bay. But, online cloud backup with DropBox or similar is super easy, so you can easily do both. I even backup to an external hard drive every week that I store in one of those fireproof envelopes. So my laptop data gets backed up to Synology once an hour, DropBox cloud in real time, and to an external HD every week or so. Therefore there are "4 instances of all my files". For data that I keep "off my laptop" I use the NAS as primary and Synology will sync the off laptop data to BackBlaze cloud and I also back up the NAS off laptop data to an external HD so there are 3 instances of all of my "off laptop" data.

  • @ne0ne0
    @ne0ne08 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this video, very interesting and well pesented! I myself use restic in combination with naeon to store my backup (chunks) in untrusted environments like the cloud. That way I avoid having to depend on the cloud hosting provider when it comes to proper encryption key management.

  • @186ceegee
    @186ceegee Жыл бұрын

    I use Synology as a file sync and file sharing solution for most of my clients. All clients also use Synology C2 offsite cloud storage to ensure that data is always redundant. I like the control and ability to setup customized retention policies vs. off the shelf cloud providers.

  • @ErvigHenry
    @ErvigHenry5 ай бұрын

    Great video! As someone who loves outdoor camping and values quality family time, having a reliable backup power source is crucial. The Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series seems like a fantastic option. With its massive capacity, fast recharging, and versatile sockets, it's perfect for powering all our devices during our outdoor adventures. Thanks for sharing this recommendation!

  • @ErvigHenry

    @ErvigHenry

    5 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the video! I completely agree that having a reliable backup power source is crucial, especially during outdoor adventures. The Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series seems like a fantastic option with its massive capacity, fast recharging, and versatile sockets. It's definitely worth considering for powering all our devices while camping or spending quality family time. Thanks for the recommendation!

  • @charliewilson3234
    @charliewilson32349 ай бұрын

    I've watched videos link this before and bought a NAS. Problem is this, with the cloud services you can share your family videos with others, its easy with a link and the videos work. With a NAS videos never load and have horrible LAG and family and friends will always struggle. Its a great option to connect it to your computer as off computer storage-thats all.

  • @nice_petr
    @nice_petr4 ай бұрын

    very solid viedo. good advice AND narration. Thank you Liron!

  • @RajuDas-qu1li
    @RajuDas-qu1li Жыл бұрын

    A great day along with a great comforting belly! It is the most peaceful and grounding realization on this earth! Great doctor!

  • @leanderperera8467
    @leanderperera84677 ай бұрын

    Curious if it provides client-side encryption or not. Would be great if I could setup my own encryption keys so Synology or anyone else does not have access to my data.

  • @robertharshaa
    @robertharshaa Жыл бұрын

    I agree with you that I would like to have the DATA on a RELIABLE DRIVE I HAVE ACCESS TO. I believe that the better thing to do it automatically back it up to a second off-site (maybe at your parents house) drive and in some case even on a third overseas location if you have a relative or friend available over there. What do you suggest?

  • @cengizc2456

    @cengizc2456

    5 ай бұрын

    That's what I do. Instead of this, not that easy-peasy system, I have 4 external hard drives in two different houses. I'm not a tech kid, who is able to remove my internal hard drive from my device. Also, the hard drives in the devices I use (smartphone, tablet and laptop) are not removable.

  • @andreymor5201
    @andreymor52018 ай бұрын

    Over my life I’ve had several hard drives failed on me. It cost so much money to recover data. Now I’m keeping for each drive at lease two backed up drives 😅

  • @ahmedrazajan4236
    @ahmedrazajan4236 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Liron Segev, Great video. I have two questions: 1. How is this product different from WD Cloud products? I had one of those WD cloud products that failed during the pandemic and it costed me an arm and a leg to get my data back. 2. I have some SATA HDD from previous computers, can use those in this device?

  • @LM43243
    @LM4324310 ай бұрын

    Great vid mate. For a beginner who wants go backup mainly photos and videos on my phone etc, which of those u linked would u recommend? Thanks!

  • @PoeLemic
    @PoeLemic11 ай бұрын

    After watching this video, I think you're right that most people should have a Synology. So, I jumped out on your links and am looking at how much Synology you said is. Thanks.

  • @mylilpc
    @mylilpc11 ай бұрын

    Yeeessss!! This is exactly what I was looking for. I hate being so enmeshed into iCloud and G Drive!! Thanks for the video!!

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    11 ай бұрын

    Appreciate you being here 🔥

  • @CT808
    @CT8087 ай бұрын

    Sorry if I missed it, but is there a wifi option? Physically, I wouldn't prefer to keep the NAS next to my router.

  • @virginiacantu8713
    @virginiacantu871311 ай бұрын

    Hello thank you for your video to inform us ! what would be the total cost once your purchase everything ?? and what is everything we would need to buy upfront ? thank you sir

  • @amen_ra6926
    @amen_ra6926 Жыл бұрын

    I have two NAS devices although I don't use them very often. But in the decade or so that I've used cloud storage, I have yet to experience down time or lost data. I get that having your own NAS allows control but it's not without its flaws. If the system board should die, can drives be dropped into another NAS and be expected to just work or do they get reformatted? If you use 3 or more drives in a striped array and one drive dies, then what? In a mirrored array you can rebuild the array and move on but in a striped array, isn't the data lost?

  • @JohnDoe-fx2ut
    @JohnDoe-fx2ut8 ай бұрын

    Can an AmberX device be connected to this? It's a cloud device as well that focuses on security as well.

  • @MichaelDoran23
    @MichaelDoran23 Жыл бұрын

    I use the synology ds220j which offer similar features and love it. Great piece of kit.

  • @daeejon3100
    @daeejon310010 ай бұрын

    Thanks for all your great videos. Can I put different sizes of hard drives( 12tb and 6tb) into those bays? And what is your advice about ds1823xs+ for the purpose you just mentioned and my movie server? I'm about to purchase it. Thank you

  • @IDNHANTU2day
    @IDNHANTU2day Жыл бұрын

    This is exactly the system I have. I can be on vacation and my photos get backed up to my RAID half way around the world.

  • @NR-nf1il
    @NR-nf1il9 ай бұрын

    I usually back things up to more than one backup option.

  • @williampennjr.4448
    @williampennjr.44487 ай бұрын

    I have an old Iomega drive that's about 20 years old. I stop using it about 10 years ago. Now I cant access anything on it because my computer wont recognize any of the files. All I get is a bunch of code at best. There should be a law against storage devices become obsolete, and company's charging you to access files just because they're old.

  • @robslatter3972
    @robslatter397217 күн бұрын

    Hey Liron, love your channel. Can you get a NAS that incorporates SSD instead of HDD?

  • @juliag4917
    @juliag4917 Жыл бұрын

    This is for real handy solution. I am using two memory drives to back up my data. So you can actually can put hard drive of any memory?

  • @TG-Maverick22
    @TG-Maverick22 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing video my friend! Thank you for this tutorial. 5/5

  • @AlainLafleche1
    @AlainLafleche1 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Liron, great video like always :-) If i want the same NAS with only 2 bays that i can access remotely... do you have a suggestion that is less expensive for me ? Thanks

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    My first Synology was a 2 bay 218+ amzn.to/41BkPVH and I see there is also this one that is 2 bay but I havent used this one: amzn.to/43CunBz

  • @BlackDaddy
    @BlackDaddy10 ай бұрын

    One of the others may be if the company goes down of abandoned the product then it may become obsolete

  • @thomasvoigt1050
    @thomasvoigt10505 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much Liron. You made my decision of creating soon a NAS easier.

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    5 ай бұрын

    Appreciate you being here 🔥

  • @thomasvoigt1050

    @thomasvoigt1050

    5 ай бұрын

    Thank you. Cool.@@LironSegev

  • @fredbureau-russell7718
    @fredbureau-russell7718 Жыл бұрын

    I will only ever use cloud storage backup. I’m never buying a hard drive and leaving it in my room and having to remember to back up to it. Hard drives fail all the time.

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    I think you missed the entire point of the video. But ok 🤪

  • @rm0924
    @rm0924 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Liron. I note that the offering is with traditional HDD. I have been upgrading systems with SSD implementations, and the results have been spectacular, particularly with older laptops. Wonder if there is a solution for a NAS system that uses SSD technology?

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    As far as I know, you can use SSD with Synology - but you would have to check the compatibility list on their website. In this particular model you can use 2x M.2 NVMe SSD which is amazing!

  • @1768ify

    @1768ify

    Жыл бұрын

    But it appears to be just for cache, not storage.

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    Which improves performance so you don't need the an SSD

  • @barryfriedman7840
    @barryfriedman7840 Жыл бұрын

    You have not solved the original issue you addressed at the beginning of this video. How are you protecting your files against fire, water damage or theft? Without a regular offsite storage solution, you are still at risk for data loss.

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    See pinned comment

  • @followthefocusofficial
    @followthefocusofficial7 ай бұрын

    I have a laptop that is connected 50% of the tike to my asus proart monitor so struggling to cone up woth something that suits me for storage and redundancy. I was thinking of doing a NAS but soon we are glojg travelling in a van and the lack of decent internet at times and lack if space will make that NAS idea not doable. Whatever direction i twke, my personal, non work stuff is backed up on 4 extetnal drives (2x seperate 2 disc raids in mirror) so the chances of both going down at the same time is practically nil. Plus 1x set is in my parents loft, out of the way. Any ideas on a lightweight, slim storage method for either 2 drives i can raid or even better, 4 drives i can raid?

  • @gordon8130
    @gordon813011 ай бұрын

    What is tue heighest rate of encryption that you can choose for these devices ? Thabk you 🙏

  • @alaskacpu
    @alaskacpu8 ай бұрын

    NAS Servers, but too expensive when hardware fails. Happen 3 times for me… and it was Synology. Dropbox works 100% of the time for me and my 10TB Regular Drive, just drag and drop for Dropbox. I have a copy & Dropbox is my failsafe 💞

  • @alethiaa.1593
    @alethiaa.15933 ай бұрын

    I was disappointed to learn how expensive this system is to obtain & put into operation. Well, I figure I will need to continue w/cloud storage.

  • @napalmstrike2007
    @napalmstrike2007 Жыл бұрын

    does the autosave to onedrive feature of ms office work on this? Regarding the cost: I've found older models of synology for around 250$, and two WD 1 tb HDD's cost around 200$ so it is 450$ for that. If you are paying 10$/month for a cloud service you break even in 4 years. It is not that bad. And if you have spare HDD's lying around like I do, you will break even in just 2 years. However if you go for premium models with 5 slots they indeed cost a lot.

  • @macbitz
    @macbitz Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Love NAS drives, got 5 of them, loads of redundancy, remote access, all encrypted yada yada. BUT.... _any_ on premise backup solution is still a single point of failure. Your house gets burgled, flooded or goes up in flames - you'll wish you had off premise cloud storage 😉

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    Fireproof safe with a data port. Also when was the last time your house went up in flames? That was a scare tactic used back in the day to get people to "trust the cloud" and it just lingered...

  • @chrisjlocke

    @chrisjlocke

    Жыл бұрын

    House fires in the UK are common. People use chip pans a lot, knock 'em over and set their kitchen on fire.

  • @SnowyRVulpix

    @SnowyRVulpix

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LironSegev mine did a few years ago. Lost a lot of crucial data.

  • @mightymight365

    @mightymight365

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@texanfournow Who the heck stores their NAS on the floor?

  • @kernow9324

    @kernow9324

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chrisjlocke At first I assumed you were talking nonsense, as I have never owned a chip pan and haven't seen once since the 1970s, but I've just read that every year there are 12,000 chip pan fires in the UK. That's horrendous!

  • @thealphacruze
    @thealphacruze Жыл бұрын

    What OS is that on the laptop/PC you using in the video? Also thanks for this Info⚜️

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    Windows. Just FYI: it works with all OS - both mobile and desktop

  • @booming3529
    @booming35298 ай бұрын

    it's perfect solution but very expensive comparing to external HDD, OR getting new PC equipped with needed HDD to store my data

  • @avamaria8447
    @avamaria844710 ай бұрын

    I love how you make things seem simple. Unfortunately i still got hung up on the raid part. I will read the link you posted

  • @michaeljackson62509
    @michaeljackson62509 Жыл бұрын

    Do they have any protections against ransomware? I use Google and iCloud to backup my files and data from my phone and computer. What if someone gets into your network, could they still download your files with zero day. There are benefits to each option. Buying drives can be expensive, but they should last 3-5 years especially if you put a UPS with it to prevent power outages.

  • @LesCish
    @LesCish Жыл бұрын

    Why is the term 'backup' used for a single copy/ instance of files and data? I.e. I've always considered "backup' to mean additional copies besides those on my PC hard drive. I understand advantages of data storage on a NAS but wouldn't consider that backup unless it was a copy with originals located elsewhere.

  • @robertharshaa
    @robertharshaa Жыл бұрын

    About 10 years ago I got a brand new Synology DS411 Slim just as my Dad had and backed up everything on it with a RAID 10 scheme. I thought a 4 x 2.5" drives HDD would have enough redundancy just to discover that after a power shortage three of my HDD's had malfunctioned which I fixed using their S.M.A.R.T app. After replacing the one HDD which couldn't be repaired, leaving the system to restore the data on the new drive over night, I came in the morning just to find out that ALL DATA WAS WIPED CLEAN. Their support could not offer any analysis of what happened nor did they have an explanation. The evening before I activated the restore of the new HDD, all the data was still there and intact - I've checked it thoroughly. - So I don't think I could trust anything from Synology again.

  • @Richard-or9rt

    @Richard-or9rt

    2 ай бұрын

    Honestly, after fiddling with raid for years, I've come to the conclusion that it's better simply to write to two separate disks, separately. Maybe not useful if you want protection for your OS disk, but for just backing up files, Raid just has too many complications.

  • @carnivorejail907
    @carnivorejail907 Жыл бұрын

    What about decentralized storage like "STORJ"? And thanks for the video. I didn't know about NAS.

  • @oldwizzy
    @oldwizzy3 ай бұрын

    A NAS/Server = not a substitute for a backup, times a backup of your DATA on your NAS/Server ANYTIME and use the 3-2-1 method to store it. There are MANY BACKUP methods, HD's is the cheapest method at the moment, TAPE is the safest for long-term storage.

  • @1980sLegoFan
    @1980sLegoFan8 ай бұрын

    But Apple iCloud and others use E2EE? Isn't that safe for sensitive documents? Not sure I want another piece of hardware.

  • @maxtrac1
    @maxtrac18 ай бұрын

    What if my hard drive in my computer crashes can it put the whole operating system back on a new drive?

  • @adamdavitkovski
    @adamdavitkovski11 ай бұрын

    Hi! Thank you for this video and all the insights. Unfortunately there is one thing I didn't understand completely: You said that this NAS option would be better if you don't trust cloud providers, on the other hand you create an account on Synology and have to agree to the EULA that you didn't read. What is the big difference between Synology and Google, OneDrive, Dropbox, etc.?

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    11 ай бұрын

    you aren't storing your stuff on their system. If you don't want to use their way to connect to your NAS, you don't have to - create your own.

  • @forest3
    @forest3 Жыл бұрын

    I am currently using a cloud storage service with end to end encryption. I also have 2 external drives that sync my data and are encrypted with bit locker. I am always looking for better ways but I believe I have a pretty good system for now.

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    awesome

  • @CosmicCitiZenOfficial

    @CosmicCitiZenOfficial

    Жыл бұрын

    why so secretive...😂😆

  • @waterspray5743

    @waterspray5743

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CosmicCitiZenOfficial He's a secret agent

  • @erroneouscode
    @erroneouscode9 ай бұрын

    With a usb only interface on the physical hard disk and SMR platter technology usb external hard drives are extremely unreliable nowadays. You can't even keep an eye on them via SMART monitoring because the usb interface prevents talking to the drives firmware directly. No-one should ever do a cut and paste or first and only write to them. They should be used as a 'copy to' device only.

  • @birthing4blokes46
    @birthing4blokes46 Жыл бұрын

    am I able to share a link to another when using a NAS, like on dropbox etc etc? Thanks for the video. I have now watched the video and subscribed. You answered my question Thank you again.

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    Epic! So yes. You can 👍

  • @summerbee80
    @summerbee80 Жыл бұрын

    😄 "the creep" lol!! that was classic 😁

  • @davidu01
    @davidu01 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video, but what do you install the NAS to ..a network server, your desktop, or your router?

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    you connect your NAS to the router with the network cable. The NAS is a self contained "computer"

  • @joeglennaz
    @joeglennaz Жыл бұрын

    This is a great video thank you I have two questions. Does this work on Mac? I assume it does the other bigger question is why aren’t they using SSD drives? Or not SSD drives much faster and more efficient?

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    yes it does and you can choose whatever storage option you want. You don't have to use the drives I showed you. This model can also handle NVMe SSD

  • @joeglennaz

    @joeglennaz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LironSegev thank you that’s great news. I assume it’s got some slots on it where you can insert SSD drives.

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup. The bays have screws for smaller dives. Just make sure the model you get can support SSD. They have a chart in their website

  • @RogerioPereiradaSilva77

    @RogerioPereiradaSilva77

    Жыл бұрын

    1. Most Synology NAS models only use SSD for caching purposes; they cannot be used as part of the storage pool. I believe that TerraMaster, a smaller less well known brand that also manufactures decent NAS appliances, allows one to use SSDs in any way he/she sees fit. 2. You probably don't want to use a SSD in these anyway as they typically wear down over time after a certain number of read/write operations which makes them not particularly desirable for long term storage purposes. See SSD Wear Indicator for further info on this. Not that HDDs don't suffer from similar issues; they do - some manufacturers such as Seagate even provide things like health management NAS plug-ins for their IronWolf line of drives to allow you to keep tabs on that - but not to the same extent.

  • @stephencali8902
    @stephencali8902 Жыл бұрын

    How about the DiskStation DS223 for a little less money? Or do you suggest the 4 bay is better

  • @motivate-today
    @motivate-today Жыл бұрын

    I once thought I had the solution - a duplicate PC, but both PCs failed on the same day! Now I have multiple backups.

  • @meccadon52
    @meccadon52Ай бұрын

    Sorry guys I’m really new to this. Literally started looking into something like this today. I have some questions….. Do you have to pay for the NAS service to get access to your files from your mobile device? I guess I’m asking, what’s the start up cost for something like this?

  • @bonzodimduly3633
    @bonzodimduly3633Ай бұрын

    i've spent the past week building a truenas in a tupperware container. this would be wayy easier, but i just love messing with computers and learning things on the way, its like a fun challenge, plus i get to say i store all my stuff remotely in a tupperware container. it's not as simple or user friendly as i have to do everything myself. but if i wasn't a nerd i'd recommend this to anyone who wants to get into NAS storage

  • @jongmedellin4890
    @jongmedellin48908 ай бұрын

    any guide how we setup sync locations two locations this to make sure , back are made in difference locations

  • @MoniqueJoinerSiedlak_Author
    @MoniqueJoinerSiedlak_Author Жыл бұрын

    I love mine! I have 4 12TBs. No such thing as "too much space."

  • @charlienyc1
    @charlienyc1 Жыл бұрын

    Ah, finally the NAS talk! 👍 👍 I'm rocking a DS918+ and love it.

  • @thomas1699
    @thomas16998 ай бұрын

    I would like to try this at the first opportunity.

  • @devaneizanardi
    @devaneizanardi9 ай бұрын

    Superb!! Thank you 👏👏🥰👍👍

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    9 ай бұрын

    Appreciate you being here

  • @ajp2279
    @ajp2279 Жыл бұрын

    Data can be recovered by the forensic tools in kali Linux, its probley the electronics thats given up the disc should be all good as long you wind the reader arm correctly and not scratch the disc. it can then be removed fited to a working drive where you can remove your files

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    not really something that just anyone can do 😂 I guess that is why companies charge a fortune to recover data from broken drives....

  • @stuartofblyth
    @stuartofblyth Жыл бұрын

    "There are only 10 kinds of people - those that have lost data, and those that will". I've been saying that for the last 11000+ years.

  • @Ozymandias1
    @Ozymandias1 Жыл бұрын

    I turned KZread in a free cloud service by creating a backup channel where I uploaded all my home videos (terabytes of content!) which I then set to private. Doing the same with a regular cloud service would cost a lot of money in monthly fees.

  • @LabArlyn

    @LabArlyn

    Жыл бұрын

    You're so smart.

  • @McLovinsFunhouse

    @McLovinsFunhouse

    Жыл бұрын

    KZread compresses those videos like a mf so quality won't be there as original files, even if you download them. I guess it works since there's really no chance of those videos ever dissapearing but just keep that in mind. Source: I made KZread videos for many years learned very quickly how having a local copy of my videos was always important in case I needed to reupload or if I wanted to retain original quality.

  • @dienekes4364
    @dienekes4364 Жыл бұрын

    I've been looking for this type of solution. I like it a lot!!!!!

  • @Sc4v3r
    @Sc4v3r10 ай бұрын

    Nice... and if my house burns down, I also loose any backup. So I rather will safe my backups encrypted in the cloud. And NAS and also a safe is not affordable for everyone!

  • @samirmehidi
    @samirmehidi Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Liron 👍

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    Appreciate you being here 🔥

  • @stevepovey2489
    @stevepovey248910 ай бұрын

    What sort of budget do you need for this? Say I need 4TB of redundant storage

  • @millianopinto9877
    @millianopinto9877 Жыл бұрын

    Thank You !! ❤

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome 😊

  • @pinterestexpress8870
    @pinterestexpress8870 Жыл бұрын

    You video are fantastic. Thanks for the content.

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    Appreciate you being here 🔥

  • @pinterestexpress8870

    @pinterestexpress8870

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LironSegev I have noticed that a lot of your vids are for windows based and i work off an iPhone and apple laptop. Do you do much on apple products?

  • @BB-uz4tc
    @BB-uz4tc Жыл бұрын

    Liron can this be hooked up as a DVR for the TV? What's needed besides the NAS and the TV channels lol?

  • @RogerioPereiradaSilva77

    @RogerioPereiradaSilva77

    Жыл бұрын

    Not sure that a NAS is the best tool for something like this. You would probably be best served by a DVR-like appliance such as HD HomeRun which, I believe - don't quote me on it! - can record live TV on the NAS instead of its built-in storage if you want it to.

  • @TankTheSpank
    @TankTheSpank9 ай бұрын

    Create your own storage system is still a single point of failure. If stolen you have nothing.

  • @subrec
    @subrec Жыл бұрын

    Here the reason to use cloud storage: your stuff is backed up with minimal effort, for a set fee. You don’t need to worry about drives failing (or having the skills to rebuild a raid). You also never have to remember to plug anything in. If your house is destroyed, or devices stollen, you still have your data. I’m not saying that a NAS is a bad idea, but for the average person that struggles to operate an iPhone, paying for cloud storage and loading an app to automatically backup your data every time you turn your devices on, a cloud solution is a much better solution. A local NAS in hour house is great until it’s hit by a tornado, hurricane, fire or flood. Are those odds low? Maybe, but isn’t that the reason why you have a backup anyway? I’m sure you could probably talk your mom or friend into letting you set up a mirrored site for your data…but now all your data is sitting at someone else’s house…and isn’t that your whole argument against cloud storage to begin with….it’s someone else’s computer???

  • @EyeOnSciFiPod

    @EyeOnSciFiPod

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Agree 100%. My house burned down and we lost almost everything in it. Unfortunately, this happens. Also, not everyone can afford a NAS system. The one in this video is on Amazon is $599 - not including the external hard drives to provide the actual storage

  • @ancipital

    @ancipital

    Жыл бұрын

    Downside of cloud storage - it is someone else's computer, they can have an issue and lose everything, they can delete all your stuff, missing paying your scheduled payment, gone. If you argue with them, they might get give you a month free storage or refund your last month - it has happened multiple times in the past and will happen again in the future. Unfortunately, you need a mix of technologies but this is outside most people who don't work in IT's skillset to implement

  • @subrec

    @subrec

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ancipital it’s pretty much always someone else’s computer if you want geo- redundancy though, unless you are rich enough to own multiple homes.

  • @ledunkman

    @ledunkman

    2 ай бұрын

    Agreed. Ppl that burn their house down or struggle with their phones shouldn’t attempt a NAS setup.

  • @rangeriver
    @rangeriver Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Liron

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    thank YOU for being here!

  • @hayleyscomet1
    @hayleyscomet1 Жыл бұрын

    Greetings from Sunny Cape Town South Africa . Good content 😮

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    Howzit !

  • @darianlee
    @darianlee8 ай бұрын

    What if there’s a house fire or it falls and breaks the drives

  • @cyberwasp461
    @cyberwasp461 Жыл бұрын

    Ive been running a DS920+ for years and have several other user, 16 to be exact. Most use synology photos to backup their phones. I also have 2 other offsite nas to backup my nas too.

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice! 🔥 🔥 🔥

  • @shazzadhasan3970

    @shazzadhasan3970

    Жыл бұрын

    @Steven for years? i was interested to setup a 50TB NAS, but i did some research and it seems like i might need to change the HDD's every 5 year or so. it seems very expensive.

  • @iddqds
    @iddqds8 ай бұрын

    My question is; how do i backup the files on each computer (5x) in a small network but make clients have no access or limited access to Synology in order to protect the backup.

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    8 ай бұрын

    You run the backup client software on each device and set permissions on the NAS software

  • @theeduplessis7074
    @theeduplessis70747 ай бұрын

    For me i trust cloud storage because my external storage devices i buy whether expensive or cheap, they always crash after a certain time...

  • @lanced.penascosa5427
    @lanced.penascosa5427 Жыл бұрын

    I recently bought a external HDD here in Japan which was 2T, I used the drive for 2 months and never had issues. But one day I heard it chiriping/beeping and disconnected while transferring 20gb of file. The hard drive failed, it has never fallen or dropped, the disk inside I can hear still spinning, I did every trouble shoot and none worked. I lost a lot of family photos since if it would have been ok if I deleted them accidentally because i can recover it. This video really helped me think about creating my own cloud, but wouldnt it still need maintenance? Google cloud replaces their malfunctioned HDDs ever so often and their server room is build for EMP attacks, google for me is safer but I wish there was a one time unlimited storage plan I can buy

  • @yeshuamyking
    @yeshuamyking Жыл бұрын

    What size drive(s) can each slot hold and can they be SSD?

  • @StefTechSurfer
    @StefTechSurfer7 ай бұрын

    Been using a DS 2disk bay since 2018.

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    7 ай бұрын

    Nice 👍

  • @MerkDolf
    @MerkDolf Жыл бұрын

    To be more secure get a second NAS and install it in your parents house or some other family member's and have back up the one NAS to the second one.

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    100% - see pinned comment!

  • @ProductReviewkk
    @ProductReviewkk Жыл бұрын

    If i'm out of town and I click pictures on my phone, would they be automatically backed up on the NAS from the remote place or do i have to manually do it from offsite or will it happen only when i'm in the same netwrok at home?

  • @ryutenmen
    @ryutenmen Жыл бұрын

    Aside from the fact that you can archive and put a (strong) password on the data you put on the "cloud", what is the fundamental difference between a NAS and a regular PC that you would keep it on while you are away and use it as a NAS where I would keep a second back-up of those files? For example a thin client/mini/micro PC that also draws very little power. Or a router with USB storage. Would that work as type of NAS?

  • @jasonsnell708

    @jasonsnell708

    Жыл бұрын

    for me, any NAS is a separate computer that runs/stores my library (movies, tv shows, etc) and anything else i want on there while i use my main computer without worrying if what i'm doing will mess up the NAS. the NAS, which is a computer running Windows 10 with 3 high end drives, does just one thing, that's it. It COULD do more but it just houses all my media and allows me to stream it.

  • @ryutenmen

    @ryutenmen

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jasonsnell708 So beyond the names(NAS, destop PC, laptop, mini PC, etc) they are basically both exactly the same thing, and each one can do what the other can, just that the user chose what specific work give to each of them. So any PC can be used as a NAS.

  • @jasonsnell708

    @jasonsnell708

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ryutenmen Absolutely. Regular Windows 10 can be used as a server if it's major or sole function is to "serve" something. I use my Windows 10 computer (it sits to the far right of my side desk area) to house my library and stream from Emby (just like Plex). A synology box is just like a PC, but it uses different hardware and a different OS. It does the same thing. It's really not complicated :)

  • @RobinJohnson
    @RobinJohnson8 ай бұрын

    My cloud Home just GOT RID of their desktop folder randomly WHAT A NIGHTMARE!

  • @DynamicSun
    @DynamicSun Жыл бұрын

    hi, great video! do you have cool informations for secure ubuntu server or nice software to use ? thanks

  • @LironSegev

    @LironSegev

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't

  • @leahlambert5737
    @leahlambert573711 ай бұрын

    Would you consider making a video on the harder way i brought myself a r710 and wanting to control my own data.

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