Will you be thinking about a Donaldson Filter Solution for your 200? Or the upcoming Hilux and 70 series?

@dustyfarmer

9 ай бұрын

Not at the price Donaldson are asking for the initial purchase price & then the cost of replacement filters, just not worth it to fix a problem that doesn't exist on my vehicle. I can do many, many, many years of standard airfilter replacement for the initial purchase price of the Donaldson kit & when you work out the cost ratio between the options over time it doesn't look good. I don't have any dusting issues with my stock VDJ79R airbox, you just have to know how to fit the lid properly when changing the filter which is not hard. Ryco also offer the Fireguardian air filter element for the stock airfilter box which I run during bushfire season.

@LockyourHubs4WDing

9 ай бұрын

@@dustyfarmer interesting, nothing up the inlet pipe at all? The 70 series seems to be almost as bad as the 200 with dusting. You're right that the Donaldson will set you back around 1k + fitting. Though a replacement long motor will set a person back 30k+. The Donaldson element is at least 3 times the cost of a standard genuine element, though the service interval is only determined by the amount of restriction once it fills up, it should be around 3 times as long. So other than the initial purchase price, ongoing maintenance costs are about the same.

@dustyfarmer

9 ай бұрын

@@LockyourHubs4WDing I check the intake tract well beyond the MAF & the airbox upper lid does have a smear of rubber grease on the sealing area which also has one of those Terrain Tamer stainless steel seal extender kits fitted to the upper lid & no dust or fine particles leaking past the filter seal & the tract is pretty much clean too, the turbo vanes are good too so it hasn't been eating dust at any time in the past. I do run a Donaldson cyclonic pre filter which picks up alot before it makes its way down to the air filter element. I do altleast 20 K's of dirt road & 150 K's of sealed road driving everyday.

@LockyourHubs4WDing

9 ай бұрын

@@dustyfarmer great to hear, those cyclonic snorkel inlets work great and flow surprisingly well

@holgermuller2987

9 ай бұрын

@@dustyfarmer the Rayco filter I purchased I through strait into the bin because the rubber seal were not high enough and insufficient compression by the lid while the clamps was closed. Original Toyo filter rubber seal new version was higher and clamping force Ok. Who cannot fit the lid properly without moving the seal from filter must learn the basics. Sure a bit Vaseline makes the cover fitting over the seal more easy You see there are many different experience Cheers

I love the data and measurements you always provide. Keep up the great work.

@LockyourHubs4WDing

9 ай бұрын

Cheers. I was completely surprised how well it flowed. I was looking at it as a reliability mod, not a performance mod!

Awesome bit of kit and a must do for any 200 series , great video thanks

@LockyourHubs4WDing

9 ай бұрын

You're welcome, Donaldson have always been leaders in auto filtration, great to see this product is maintaining the status quo!

G’day You forgot to install the 45 degrees angle adapter to the airfilter clogging indicator and cover to change the angle to not let the indicator touch the hood insulation. 😊 Cheers

@LockyourHubs4WDing

9 ай бұрын

Surprisingly didn't come in the box. I understand Donaldson will send one out to you. Though there was no evidence after installation and testing of the gauge touching the under bonnet insulation.

Put one on a few months ago and drove it Melbourne to Cape York (With your buddy from Ed's 4WD) and then on to Darwin on the dustiest roads around. Very happy with the performance. Like the testing video to show before and after, I wasn't sure if I was imagining the performance increase of not but 6% is nothing to sneeze at.

@LockyourHubs4WDing

9 ай бұрын

You put up with Ed all the way to the Cape? You're a keener bloke than me Gunga Din! I was surprised at the restriction decrease along with the performance increase. Pleasantly surprised that is.

wow thats amazing

@LockyourHubs4WDing

9 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Nice one

@LockyourHubs4WDing

9 ай бұрын

Thank mate!

Need to check if the Donaldson filters as efficiently tho. Less restriction could be a function of how many microns it filters down to and how much dirt it captures. Not a valid comparison in my view

@4xplor_au

9 ай бұрын

Its already been very effectively tested here kzread.info/dash/bejne/a3Zk1Mmeiq3RnMo.html

@holgermuller2987

9 ай бұрын

Mate, That was not a comparison Comparison info you will find in another video appr 1 year ago. Tested with talcum powder and blower. So far the only seen comparison Cheers

@LockyourHubs4WDing

9 ай бұрын

Project 200 did a pretty good job comparing the filtering ability of the Donaldson and others. Though the restriction hasn't been addressed by anyone I've seen. So that's what I focussed on.

@mjhmech4903

2 ай бұрын

So are we spending over a grand on a Donaldson replacement air box for shits n giggles or because we know the factory VDJ200 air box & filter is quite inclusive when it comes to microns 😉🤔

I'm with pvcs1754 love your data and measurements you provide,❤ your work👎👎=👍

@LockyourHubs4WDing

9 ай бұрын

Hahaha! Thanks.

Just a pity it was really 10 years too late to the party - better late than never and it seems Toyota still hasn't acknowledged the issue as the 300 is fitted with a very similar intake box and flat panel filter. Great video as always!

@LockyourHubs4WDing

9 ай бұрын

100% agree, considering the 200 is an off-roader, the stock filter isn't "fit for purpose". I understand the 70, Hilux and 300 are next, and no doubt they'll sell like hotcakes as well. Just a shame Toyota, even after the numerous issues with the 200, basically fitted the same arrangement in the 300.

@Mouldyturnip75

9 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Decades of success with the drum style filtration systems in 40, 60, 80 and 100 series. All that $ to R&D for these later models vehicles and some bean counter creates a major brand integrity issue.

@LockyourHubs4WDing

9 ай бұрын

@@Mouldyturnip75 you're right, this issue is costing the brand reputation. I think they primarily used a flat panel filter because of packaging.

Shame they have not done it for the 70 series yet as well

@LockyourHubs4WDing

7 ай бұрын

Don't tell anyone! The 70 series is going to be released soon, it'll use a slightly smaller element than the 200 (packaging constraints) . I think they'll sell like hot cakes!

@adamnorton9701

7 ай бұрын

💯 my old man put one in his car after seeing the project 200 series videos

@LockyourHubs4WDing

7 ай бұрын

@@adamnorton9701 he did a great job, I couldn't believe how much resistance the standard setup had as well, it's really strangling the engine.

Was that with snorkel attached?

@LockyourHubs4WDing

9 ай бұрын

The car has a safari "v spec"ram head snorkel.

@ausguy4385

9 ай бұрын

@LockyourHubs4WDing how did the service one go? Did that trip the replacement amount even as new filter? Seems they do but your data shows it shouldn't

@LockyourHubs4WDing

9 ай бұрын

@@ausguy4385 when testing the Donaldson, I used the gauge port to plumb the manometer.

@ausguy4385

9 ай бұрын

​@LockyourHubs4WDing just wondering if the service one supplied read replacement even with new element. As this seems to be the norm, yet your test says it should not

@LockyourHubs4WDing

9 ай бұрын

@@ausguy4385 not that I know of, I'll ask the owner and if it did, update this thread.

Thought you were one of the only honest people left on you tube . But hence seems you are all the same . Why the hell don’t you mention the cost ? What does the bloody thing cost ? 99% of people want to know that and no I won’t go to a website to find out it’s your job to be honest and tell the people watching no just all the so called good points .

@4xplor_au

9 ай бұрын

I don't see how omitting a price factor makes him "dishonest" considering that any price he says here will be wrong in a few months time anyway.

@trickymon

9 ай бұрын

@@4xplor_au it’s the most important factor for 99% of people if they choose a product . He knows the price like all you tubers but yet none ever mention it. It’s a useless review otherwise .

@LockyourHubs4WDing

9 ай бұрын

You're right, no price was mentioned, this one cost $1050 though are priced anywhere up to $1400.

@trickymon

9 ай бұрын

@@LockyourHubs4WDing maybe that explains why the price wasn’t mentioned . That’s expensive. Did you pay for it ? Or is it a sponsor

@LockyourHubs4WDing

9 ай бұрын

@@trickymon it was purchased by the owner of the 200. Not sponsored.