Stop Buying New Games. Really.

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5,000 games come out each year, and that number is only growing. From those, even after applying filter and filter to try to only play the good ones, you're still stuck with hundreds of new games every single year. You can't play them all. You just can't. So stop trying to.
TimeStamps:
0:00:00 - Introduction
0:01:19 - Trying To Filter The Games
0:04:45 - Why Are You Playing Games?
0:06:00 - Trying To Filter Further
0:08:05 - Let Games Settle First
0:14:15 - Good Games Come Back (Mostly)
0:15:10 - What's the Takeaway?
0:16:10 - Older Games Have More Information & Data
0:17:25 - Playing New Games Means Playing A Lot of Only "Good" Games
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  • @chuckallen7384
    @chuckallen73842 жыл бұрын

    While I do enjoy your coverage and reviews of new games, I appreciate these “real talk” videos much more. These videos are realistic with practical advice. I don’t like all of the games you personally love, but I find myself always respecting your opinion about them and the hobby as a whole. Thank you.

  • @FemmeSensei

    @FemmeSensei

    2 жыл бұрын

    On one hand, it's really counter-productive for Alex, on the other hand I respect the living heck out of his willingness to have the integrity to put out videos like this!

  • @chuckallen7384

    @chuckallen7384

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FemmeSensei I agree wholeheartedly with you. It’s because of this type of content I easily suggest to others BoardGameCo as a go-to source of board game news, reviews, and introspection.

  • @zoopzoooom

    @zoopzoooom

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s actually this type of “tough love” that drew me into his channel, then i stayed for the his reviews. It wasn’t until much later that i figured out BoardGameCo was the same name of the store, duh! So i totally agree with everyone here.

  • @danielscheri6589
    @danielscheri65892 жыл бұрын

    Alex, this is a perfectly timed video. Thank you! Recently, I discovered (or became self aware) that I don’t have a ton of time to board game, yet I have maybe 10-15 incoming KS arriving over the next 6-18 months. And I keep pledging. And I have PLENTY of games I either haven’t played yet or want to play more of. About a week ago, I stopped. I cancelled my Tamashii pledge. I cancelled my Jurassic Park Legacy pledge. Thanks for trying to help those of us who have a problem with FOMO or just wanting to collect them all.

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Happy to help Daniel :)

  • @VincentBalmont

    @VincentBalmont

    2 жыл бұрын

    i got tamashii but i cancelled darkest doom, though i like the look of it i cant see my self playing it over other games

  • @dave0754
    @dave07542 жыл бұрын

    "Let games settle first" is probably the best purchasing advice I have ever heard and I really need to follow it. Also, I need to stop with kickstarters. All the ones I have backed have ended up being ok at best and their resale value is very low outside from the blockbusters.

  • @williamblack6912
    @williamblack69122 жыл бұрын

    Since I reached a good base collection the urge to get the new stuff has certainly died down. It usually gets to theme and mechanics, do I have something similar. But sometimes I still loose control and back something like darkest dungeon or harakiri. The only point I don't agree is that good games get reprints, some great games didn't get a reprint in ages like shadows over camelot.

  • @lyth7745
    @lyth77452 жыл бұрын

    Your “cult of the now” segments really do help give perspective to the myriad of great games available available right now rather that having to wait a year and pay a premium for unproven kickstarter games. And sometimes it’s best for us to take a step back and appreciate all that we have already. Thank you as always for the great content and hope you have a wonderful day

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate it, you as well.

  • @jedisparky
    @jedisparky2 жыл бұрын

    This is by far the best subject you have broached on your channel. Thanks. Ive bought 10 games already this year, and 5 more Kickstarters yet to come this year and Ive decided I'm done for a LONG time. Ive got enough games recently that I can enjoy for YEARS!! So I will. And that's plenty for now. Again, great topic and well explained.

  • @sethwinslow
    @sethwinslow2 жыл бұрын

    I’d love to see a “top 3 from 3 years ago video that we still play/talk about” type video series.

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    I do these from time to time but I'm down for another.

  • @sethwinslow

    @sethwinslow

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BoardGameCo I know this is contrary to the theme of this video, but what are your thoughts on Golem? I’m interested in it for obvious reasons. I remember you did a short thing on it a year ago, but nothing since.

  • @coreymayo8321
    @coreymayo83212 жыл бұрын

    Quoting someone I heard on a podcast years ago: "By definition, half of the games on Kickstarter are below average."

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol 100% that

  • @cfosburg
    @cfosburg2 жыл бұрын

    This is what I tell my dad. If you only look at the ‘games of the year’ (dice Tower awards, golden geek, etc…)from the previous year, you will be left with nothing but amazing choices.

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes!

  • @kimberlycarter369

    @kimberlycarter369

    2 жыл бұрын

    Disagree. I have some amazing games that I backed that where a fraction of the price of those “amazing choices” and, they only saw a small print run of 100 or 200 copies. These games not only gave me a similar experience but, did it better.

  • @cfosburg

    @cfosburg

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kimberlycarter369 good for you! ☺️

  • @billable1861

    @billable1861

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kimberlycarter369 can you give me some examples id like to look into the ones you have a high opinion of

  • @morpheus587

    @morpheus587

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kimberlycarter369 what games?

  • @JohnBrown-wk4io
    @JohnBrown-wk4io2 жыл бұрын

    WOW that is one thing that is always amazing about your vids. You will make recommendations that could negatively impact your viewership, your vid on slowing down unnecessary buying that included cutting out watching game review vids, & now this one that recommends the value of waiting to buy a game. Rare to find that sort of honesty. Love it.

  • @aaronleon8098
    @aaronleon80982 жыл бұрын

    I admit to having the issues you discuss about new games. I get excited by hearing others discuss how amazing it is (including you). Something that has helped temper my addiction is watching the "How to play" videos. If they seem too complicated, I am out. It has helped with several games I was on the fence about.

  • @jamesalexander8908
    @jamesalexander89082 жыл бұрын

    Great video! And I’ve been very pulled in by your videos about “The Cult of the New.” I would love to see videos about games you have seen that had a lot of hype but significantly seemed to lose value after they “settled” for a year or two.

  • @330nate
    @330nate2 жыл бұрын

    I feel like there’s a deeper psychology here that stretches way beyond board games. But it’s spot on

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    💯

  • @bobcattom5997
    @bobcattom59972 жыл бұрын

    I think these are the types of videos that make your channel unique from all the rest. It's refreshing to have someone who has been in the hobby for some time give advice (based on experience over years of collecting and playing games) on how to manage a collection. Discovering your channel almost 2 years ago has helped me employ strategies to cull a sizeable portion of my collection and think more critically about what I add to it. All that to say, great video! I always enjoy these ones.

  • @petergross7235
    @petergross72352 жыл бұрын

    I love it when you do these videos Alex. Thanks for the good suggestions. The filter is a really nice tool on BGG.

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Peter :)

  • @stuck804
    @stuck8042 жыл бұрын

    Great video! This is the number one advice I tell friends. Not too mention, my collection is always open to friends and family.

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Scott.

  • @successfulgeek
    @successfulgeek2 жыл бұрын

    Love this video! I've slowed way down on buying and it is very freeing and more fun. But sometimes getting new shiny is still fun too.

  • @GingerNinjaNicko
    @GingerNinjaNicko2 жыл бұрын

    Just want to express my gratitude for this video. I'm struggling with spending to deal with hard times and hopefully this advice will stay in my mind to help me regain control. Thank you.

  • @adrianhill3797
    @adrianhill37972 жыл бұрын

    There's definitely a board game buying addiction within our hobby. Some Facebook pages i'm in have people who post new arrivals on a weekly basis and I always think 'how could they possibly have time to learn and play AND enjoy all of these games'. I pretty much only buy 2 games a year and play them over and over. I also sell games that I haven't played for years (unless they are my favourites).

  • @gabrielm.k.8094
    @gabrielm.k.80942 жыл бұрын

    A very complicated discussion to have, but a necessary one. Great content!

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Gabriel.

  • @isiadhitumup
    @isiadhitumup2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the advice, will definitely take it. 👍

  • @bryanwinston8820
    @bryanwinston88202 жыл бұрын

    I really love yoru channel, but this is by far my favorite video of yours I've seen. Actually my favorite non how to play or play through video of all time. I've been a 1 in 1 out guy for a while and it means I walk away from stuff that wouldn't have been a good fit for me, Thanks man.

  • @jamierufe
    @jamierufe2 жыл бұрын

    My key principle for exploring new games and enjoying favorites in my collection is keeping my collection size to 40 max (and I’m even thinking of lowering to 30). With such a tight constraint, it takes a LOT for a game to pass muster, in other words, it has to be special and great. At the same time, it gives me the freedom to explore and take a risk on a newer unproven game. If it’s just okay or nor what I was expecting, I can always sell it. On the other hand, If I discover a new favorite, then another tough cull will need to be made.

  • @larrye

    @larrye

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was about to say something similar to this, but my number is 100. I've gotten to the point where I'm actually getting rid of really good games to keep the number under 100.

  • @grog3514

    @grog3514

    2 жыл бұрын

    What are the top 10 games you own?

  • @jamierufe

    @jamierufe

    2 жыл бұрын

    Spirit Island, Codex, Radlands, Argent: The Consortium, Puzzle Strike, Tak, Zendo, On Mars, Mottainai The Great Zimbabwe

  • @brookxiaofengxiong8473

    @brookxiaofengxiong8473

    Жыл бұрын

    40? I keep my game collection numbers under 10

  • @DumahAtreides
    @DumahAtreides2 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I'm hitting this stage where I've backed so much and realized how much will be coming in versus what I already have from retail ready to play. I'm learning more when a campaign may look good, but offers little incentive to back now versus waiting for retail. When a campaign offers a lot of promise, but no guarantees of the game's quality when complete. I'm still backing games, but trying to find the stride that works. Even as someone who can play more than some content creators at 60 games per month with gaming partners who also enjoy learning new stuff, there are hard limits to the amount of new I can take on while still enjoying any portion of the existing games. Also, absolutely ignore everything said because Mind MGMT is still great! Haha.

  • @giulianogaldi139
    @giulianogaldi1392 жыл бұрын

    Oh man, this video makes all the sense! Great content, Alex!

  • @FemmeSensei
    @FemmeSensei2 жыл бұрын

    Considering your avocation pursuit relies on folks following new games and cult-of-the-new chasing, or crowdfunding research, your willingness and integrity to put a video like this out there, is simply incredible. Hats off to you friend, you're next level.

  • @anthonystahl4877
    @anthonystahl48772 жыл бұрын

    Videos like this is what drew me in to watching BoardGameCo. I really dig the perspective and advice on taking a systematic approach to acquiring new games. I've started using the filter system after watching some of your earlier video series on keeping a lean collection. Now, I look forward to simply upgrading my games with deluxe components versus buying the latest greatest. Only one game on my list this year: the reprint of Obsession!

  • @dannygosselin2875
    @dannygosselin28752 жыл бұрын

    Wow what a good video! Thank you so much. I've been really into gaming this past year and I realize that it can be really addictive. At the beginning of the year, I told a friend that I had bought enough games for the year and that I would try to wait another year before buying more. Then, I just kickstarted my first two games 🤦‍♂️.

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    That sounds like a normal week :)

  • @Michael.Virtus
    @Michael.Virtus2 жыл бұрын

    Great video as usual. I have a very strict filters for my board games. Based on theme, art, engine, type, etc. And that definitely helps me keep it reasonable. Actually that makes me not even being a proper board gamer. Because my collection is pretty small compared to many others. And the games are very specific, so I am not going for a wide spectrum of games. The urge for new stuff is still there tho. But I am fighting myself.

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, and good luck!

  • @helxis
    @helxis2 жыл бұрын

    The "stop buying games" message is one I have been sending to my peers for some time now. It is good that there are people willing to stand up to the notion of "stop telling people how to enjoy things", because some people truly need that. There's actually many reasons for this beyond the economic one: 1. Unhealthy pattern of behavior. Stop "collecting" things. Stop associating pleasure with the purchase of games, or anything for that matter. Everything has a purpose, and that purpose is not "to be purchased". The purpose of games is to be played. If your unplayed games shelf is 10s or more deep, you have messed up. Accept that, start selling games, and adjust the pattern of behavior. Play your games. Play them more than once. More than twice. Play them 50 times. A 100 times. If the game doesn't hold up to that, sell it! There are plenty that do. 2. "Cult of the new" exhaustion. The worst part about people that uncontrollably purchase games is that it is not only *their* problem. It is a problem that they inflict upon all of their fellow gamers. This can't be overstated. Even having one person in a group with an unending supply of unplayed games is awful. Every time that person shows up, they are pushing a new game so that they can get the 'played once' checkbox before moving to the next one. When people are first getting into the hobby, this can feel really fun. Ooo and awe at all the new-to-you mechanisms and designs. But eventually, inevitably, you hit a mental wall. Learning new game after new game after new game is truly exhausting. The games start to lose their meaning. They begin to feel like more of a chore than a joy. Anxiety over engaging with games at all starts to develop. And it starts to feel bad when the rare chance comes up that you want to play a new game, yourself, because you don't want to add to the problem. Now imagine when "that person" is 80+% of all gamers in a group. It's dizzying. Experience the magic and joy of bringing out a game that the entire group knows, can set up together, and immediately just begin playing. Be the person that brings the same exact small stack of games to every. single. gaming. meet. There are no perfect games. Stop looking. Find the one(s) that you truly love, and embrace them wholeheartedly.

  • @thomgizziz

    @thomgizziz

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bad hot take. If people want to collect games that is their prerogative and not your place to tell them not to. Can you not tell others no? You are over opinionated here and in real life you must be a pushover. You aren't talking about general problems you are talking about your own problems. Your first issue with people collecting seems to be jealousy and the second is that you seem to be spineless. Take some responsibility and control in your own life and you won't have to come to the internet to complain about non-issues.

  • @helxis

    @helxis

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thomgizziz I'll stick to encouraging people to be better, thanks. Nothing else you stated here makes any sense in the context of my post and just comes off as a defensive, petty personal attack.

  • @robertbouley7697

    @robertbouley7697

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree with a lot of #2. It’s a principle/poison that is running wild in many areas of society #1 overextends. Each person is responsible for assessing their enjoyment. I will never understand collecting sports memorabilia, but I wouldn’t presume to tell someone how many minutes a week they should look at someone’s jersey before adding to their collection. However, I do appreciate your sentiment to help others examine their habits.

  • @helxis

    @helxis

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@robertbouley7697 Guilt is a good thing, in proper doses! People have become so averse to it that they will perform all manner of mental gymnastics to not experience it. I maintain that accountability is something that we should have more of -- not less. Outside of the extremely rare event that someone was performing the duties of an archivist whose goal was to maintain a living record of important/rare/all board games, I would recommend anyone else to not hoard them. Board games are for playing. Their enjoyment is not attached to their purchase or ownership. If you attach enjoyment to their purchase or ownership, you are doing it wrong and should stop. I will happily be the person to tell people that. If it helps even a single person to cease contributing to the problems that I originally cited, I will consider my efforts a success.

  • @robertbouley7697

    @robertbouley7697

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@helxis So now you’re beginning to stray. Where is guilt stemming from, and why would you think I’m adverse to it? “If you attach enjoyment to their purchase or ownership, you are doing it wrong and should stop.” Absolutely not. You’re recommendation is only helpful if they’re NOT enjoying their games with this method. Your presumption here only allows for games to be experienced your way. If everyone lived in the same subjective world that would work, but we don’t. I sleeve my cards, but I’m not daft enough to say that everyone else has to. You can offer this thought as a lens for self-exploration, but not much else. I would also advise you not to paint the message with this (thin) coat of self-righteousness that you present. You will reach more people who could benefit from the idea.

  • @Chenzana
    @Chenzana Жыл бұрын

    Boy, I needed this video so much. Thank you for words of wisdom

  • @TheLivingTed42
    @TheLivingTed426 ай бұрын

    Just stumbled on to this video, and I just wanted to say thanks. I had an idea that was sending me down a huge dark hole and would have required me to buy TONs of board games. This has help me reset, redirect, and figure out a better way. So I just wanted to say Thanks.

  • @smoothrivera1928
    @smoothrivera19282 жыл бұрын

    A video like this is one of the reasons that this channel has quickly become one of the most trusted places for board game news, reviews, and advice. Alex, you continue to prove that you’re not here just for the views, but you actually care for the community you’ve established. The pull toward the “new” is real and can cause discontent with games we already have that are great, not to mention the financial burden Kickstarter can cause! Thank you for speaking out about this. Self control is a lost discipline but is so key to foster contentment and ultimately deeper enjoyment with what a person already has.

  • @petergallai469
    @petergallai4692 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for constantly raising awareness regarding this problem in the board gaming space :)

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely :)

  • @subalru
    @subalru2 жыл бұрын

    "Good game will come back !" That's the best thing to remember as a buyer. Thanks to make this statement as a youtuber👏🏼 I was watching you're channel for a long time... you'dd make me subscribe for this video and point of view. 🗣

  • @Wealtharch
    @Wealtharch2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video Alex. Thanks

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Earl :)

  • @blacktablegaming5481
    @blacktablegaming54812 жыл бұрын

    Alex I needed this video. Thank you for this. Your one of my favourite reviewers likely the top. I did this with Nightmare Cathedral I watched your video on it and backed it right away. Immediately thanks to a good friend re-evaluated and cancelled it. I have so many games and have so many backed games coming soon. “Let it settle” great advice. Appreciate you. -Mike

  • @joetrotta9211
    @joetrotta92112 жыл бұрын

    I don't usually comment on videos, but I have to say this really stuck a chord with me. Kudos to you sir, great video, great advice. I watch a lot of KZread videos on board games and for me it is important that I trust the reviewer (even though I can often disagree with that reviewer) and that the reviews are carried out and presented in good faith.On that note, I don't always agree with your reviews, but I trust them, and that's important. I haven't read though the comments, but worth mentioning on this topic is that, depending on where you live, you can sometimes test a game before you buy it - there are a lot of gaming groups out there and your flgs will usually have a game night and there may be a game there that you can borrow for the evening, or someone else attending may have a game you are curious about (maybe not an option with KS and GF stuff, but still). Thanks again and keep up the good work!

  • @svachalek
    @svachalek2 жыл бұрын

    I think any kind of artistic experience, like music or books or movies, depends at least somewhat on what you put into it as the listener or reader or viewer. Some more than others, for example books require more from us than movies. Board games are already on the highest end and demand a lot from us as consumers but then they also usually need us to add more people to it too! So, it’s hard to put a number on it but let’s say bringing yourself and your friends and your board game to the table, you’re only able to change 1/3 of the experience by bringing in a new game. That said it’s definitely fun and worthwhile to change up the game. But I think a lot of “us” (ok me) focus too much on trying to find that perfect game when really there may be more gains in learning more about the games we have or simply finding more time to play.

  • @Tackleberry666
    @Tackleberry666 Жыл бұрын

    Own about 49 boardgames. About 10 of them haven't even touched. 10 only played solo. When hosting a bg evening my friends tend to lean the ones to know and not willing to learn new rules etc. Understandable

  • @dkartzinel
    @dkartzinel2 жыл бұрын

    Great video! I just saw a designer recently really leaning into the FOMO side of things - one of his answers to why you should back was basically "Look at my other game, you can't get it now, so you should get this one so you don't end up in that situation." Really didn't appreciate that - probably going to cancel my pledge. I know one of the filters I have tried to apply is "does this do something different or better than another game in my collection" - even though campaign dungeon crawlers are kind of my favorite lol.

  • @dominicthompson5443

    @dominicthompson5443

    2 жыл бұрын

    What designer?

  • @steveowen7508
    @steveowen75082 жыл бұрын

    Great advice. I've backed so many games, that I'm trying to be more selective about what I back going forward. Emphasis on *trying*. :-)

  • @pincao
    @pincao2 жыл бұрын

    Great thoughts. Thanks

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks :)

  • @thenerdgirl1
    @thenerdgirl12 жыл бұрын

    I notice that I've really slowed down on acquisitions this year. I think, do I want to play this new game more than something I already own and love and don't get to play enough of? And then I don't buy it. I have so many I love I don't get to play because I have newer stuff I haven't played yet that I feel obligated to play instead. A smaller collection gets to be more loved and it's really inspiring me to strip my collection in half.

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice, happy for you

  • @RaymondMillbrae
    @RaymondMillbrae2 жыл бұрын

    Solid advice. Your brain works very similar to mine. Appreciate your thoughts, as I can relate.

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Raymond

  • @Copterman
    @Copterman2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been working to bling out / finish the 10-15 games I enjoy playing before getting something new.

  • @christianbank393
    @christianbank3932 жыл бұрын

    Another reason to wait out the hype of a game is that you can usually get a newer edition without any errata. I was waiting to get GWT and then they announced the second edition. I'm glad I waited for that one.

  • @BoooVHW
    @BoooVHW2 жыл бұрын

    Nice video. I like to pledge on KS but sometimes its better to follow those project until near the end and pledge for $1 to get into pledge manager and have some more time to think before choose to full pledge it base with or without add-on. It’s still better to lose those $1 rather than regret for pledging too much games with full payments. It also help to maintain your budget for a few month to choose which KS that really you want to get. Secondly if you have play group of friends that also buying board games, sometimes it better not to buy the same games as they have. Except if you love it and willingly to play with other group or you want to solo those games, you might consider to buy it.

  • @tmorganriley

    @tmorganriley

    2 жыл бұрын

    I do this, and consider it like buying an option (as used in the business sense) on the game. I've found that the $1 is worth it to salve my FOMO on those I really want, and in about 3/4 of the time, when the pledge manager arrives I choose to pass. And actually feel better from the choice to pass than to have lost $1.

  • @thegreenyamo1995
    @thegreenyamo19952 жыл бұрын

    I stopped backing games after CMON's MOTU KS. I have so many big campaign games that are coming still from the COVID delays. I just have too much and simply don't need anymore. I may only back future KS stuff if they are expansions or add-ons to something I already have. I simply lack the time to even play what I have.

  • @siTortue
    @siTortue2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Alex! Thanks for your reflective videos about board games, I like them alot! In the first minute of the video you mentioned that you made another video on why we should rotate our games but I could not find it. Could share the link with me? Thanks for all the nice thoughts you share with us!

  • @kumanight
    @kumanight2 жыл бұрын

    Lately I've made an effort to buy games at retail more. To help, I've changed my backing habits to only pledge $1. My hope was that this would help me fight fomo/hype and its been working but not as well as I'd like. Fighting the Kickstarter addiction is hard.

  • @franktitzler2689
    @franktitzler26892 жыл бұрын

    What a great and thoughtful video! It’s made me reconsider my approach to future purchases and focus more on enjoying my existing highly-rated games or acquiring established games. Here’s to being a more discriminating buyer!

  • @SteveRB511
    @SteveRB5112 жыл бұрын

    Very good discussion. The thought that helps me for games and other things (which is pretty much paraphrasing things that you've said) is a "once in a lifetime opportunity" is followed by another "once in a lifetime opportunity" later on. There are some things I regret missing out on but over time they don't particularly bother me because some new shiny thing is on the horizon. That has really helped me from FOMO buying in particular. (My Achilles heel though is an appealing theme with great art and graphic design - working on it.) Culling also helps; the process of selling off games lessens my interest in buying more and I what do buy tends to be more selective.

  • @beornthebear9023
    @beornthebear90232 жыл бұрын

    Last year I started setting some filters and it has resulted in buying much fewer average games. I back 5 Kickstarters a year. And then I have a month budget of about 50. And then I participate in math trades, local trades etc. ends up being around 30-40 new to me games a year and that has been a more manageable number than in the past.

  • @steeveman
    @steeveman2 жыл бұрын

    Another great show! Advice I need to take, lol!

  • @DaleNolanJr
    @DaleNolanJr2 жыл бұрын

    For those who want to try everything, I suggest finding a place that will allow you to rent most games, or use games in the store.

  • @ChromaTick360
    @ChromaTick3602 жыл бұрын

    It's been interesting to me to see how boardgaming has changed through the decades. Back before the internet things like this were almost never an issue. You would only buy games that you heard about by word of mouth or that the FLGS would recommend to you. You might occasionally buy something at the store on a whim, but there was none of the FOMO of Kickstarter/Gamefound, BGG, content creators, etc. pushing all the newest games 24/7. I may not always agree with your taste in games (although it's pretty close to mine), but I always appreciate these practical approaches to boardgame purchasing that you bring to the channel. I think videos like this are especially valuable to newer boardgamers getting into the hobby.

  • @joeferreti9442
    @joeferreti94422 жыл бұрын

    With the overflow of new game releases I think we all have to become more critical about the games in order to keep the number of games we purchase in a reasonable range. 100 ratings is not enough. 100 people might just be the circle around the designers and the publishing company. A few years ago somebody told me 800-1000 ratings is minimum for a reliable rating. Nowadays I think we should use 1000 as minimum if not more.

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm fine with less than that, but I also support setting whatever filters you want to limit the options.

  • @qvogames
    @qvogames2 жыл бұрын

    A lot of well needed advice. I believe one of the biggest gate keepers to the board gaming hobby was price of the games, and that is even after finding all these retailers who sold games a bit below MSRP. Therefore, being a bit more cautious of purchasing games can really help ease the spending and not cause a "board game burnout" or sorts. Good video Alex, I am sure this will be helpful to a lot of people

  • @kylemoore7746
    @kylemoore77462 жыл бұрын

    True, I'm taking a little break from crowdfunding. I'm going to focus on the ripe, long standing game known as Bardsung since I have it now. Did you get yours yet??

  • @Justin-MeepleMountain
    @Justin-MeepleMountain2 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff man!

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Justin :)

  • @intrepidfool
    @intrepidfool2 жыл бұрын

    Love this topic. We struggled with the transition from building our collection to maintaining / pruning / evolving our collection. Particularly as we became active KS backers starting around 2019. It took some conversations around KS and games. We have filters that we use for existing games (just as you recommended but more restrictive). With KS, we eliminate anything that isn’t well received by reviewers we have some affinity with (such as you). From those games, we then evaluate where it fits in our collection and what it might replace. Lastly, if there are many interesting releases in a month, we play our own version of “play this, not that” called “back this, not that”. FOMO is a hard drug to kick but I only have one game that I regret not backing in the past three years and only one KS game (that has arrived and been played) that was a miss for us. We also have purchased only one retail game that is a miss with our current filters. (Should have let it settle. LOL)

  • @eierlose
    @eierlose2 жыл бұрын

    Great Video!

  • @joelkong9060
    @joelkong90602 жыл бұрын

    In my humble opinion, games are just a medium to build new friendships with new people and strengthen the bonds with the existing friends and family. Stop chasing the rainbow...

  • @nihlify

    @nihlify

    2 жыл бұрын

    I play solo games, your humble opinion does not apply...

  • @joelkong9060

    @joelkong9060

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nihlify Indeed, my opinion doesn't apply.

  • @sherlockhomeless7138
    @sherlockhomeless71382 жыл бұрын

    This is so true. I was very excited about Great western trail and I bought it three years ago. But I still haven't played it. And it's not the only game... I do think I'm going to play it at some point. But like you said.. if you play it a few times.. then each play costs you around 20 dollars. That's not what you want when you spend money on your hobby. I did actually pick up a big box of Istanbul not too long ago for a great deal. The base game and two expansions. So yeah, waiting and then buying a big box is a good strategy as well.

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Istanbul is great!

  • @alholm6470
    @alholm64702 жыл бұрын

    The problem is when I finally watch a older review and find a game I want, it's used and costs $300

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    ya....that can happen. I still find it's far more the exception.

  • @Moonlighter_TV
    @Moonlighter_TV2 жыл бұрын

    But but but what if I can't find all 5 expansions, the stretch goals box and all the Kickstarter exclusive promos that add little to the game except for some poorly play tested bonus rules all on the secondary market?

  • @lauraweiss7875
    @lauraweiss78752 жыл бұрын

    With certain publishers (eg, Splotter), if you snooze, you lose. Even Ark Nova (which I pre-ordered based on a YT review), is parked on a ship in Long Beach, and that shipment is now sold out. I do try to wait, but you guys make these games look SO good!

  • @irish1108inf
    @irish1108inf2 жыл бұрын

    great recommendations... i fell into the trap of "having" to buy.. afraid of missing out of an opportunity.. yet... have dozens of games that i've never played

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep, happens every time

  • @d3wey81
    @d3wey812 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Great advice. Now you need to do one about people trying to get full msrp from a 4 year old game because they only played it once lol.

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol, I actually did one a very long time ago but I should probably update it

  • @Boardgamegyrl
    @Boardgamegyrl2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve learned that I don’t like worker placement games in general so now I’ve got about 40 games to sell. This is helping me focus my purchases on games that I will actually play. I still struggle on letting go of a few games worth a lot of money, even though I never play them like Big Boss by Wolfgang Kramer. Why? I still haven’t figured it out. I need to let go….

  • @WalexG
    @WalexG2 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful advice and commentary

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Alex

  • @kimberlycarter369
    @kimberlycarter3692 жыл бұрын

    Agree to a point. Some smaller print run games will most likely never see a reprint. These games will rarely show up on places like eBay and, when they do you will pay a premium. Other more popular games you will pick up at cost or cheaper. And overly produced games, well you can usually get the game itself along with expansions in bundles for half the price. Predicting these things is the gamble, sure sometimes it obvious, but... well you get it.

  • @tmorganriley
    @tmorganriley2 жыл бұрын

    I long did this with video games. I always had plenty to play at the moment, and I just got on a cycle where if I waited a few years, one could get the game for $10; I picked up several of my all-time favorites that way. And since it was largely a solo activity, it didn't matter that I was on a several-year delay (and meant my machine could usually handle anything I threw at it). And aside from having a bit less to chat about with friends, I never felt I missed out. And with board games, the whole point of me buying them and building a collection in the first place is that I don't have a game group that is super-into the boardgaming hobby culture, so no one I play with wants or needs the new hotness. (If they did, I would just let them buy it instead). I can instead craft my collection for the long term (and it is nearly at its stable sustainable size, so I am ready to throttle down)

  • @lemilfy
    @lemilfy2 жыл бұрын

    I find that price is my main thing when picking up a game. You can typically get a used game for 20-30% off the price tag of a new game, and you can easily sell it for the same price you bought it for if you end up not liking the game.

  • @briwindau4861
    @briwindau48612 жыл бұрын

    I feel like this video needs a companion video with tips and general advice about when to support a Kickstarter board game. Things like supporting developers you respect, supporting projects that are less likely to get to retail, etc.

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Noted ;)

  • @fingerling1231
    @fingerling12312 жыл бұрын

    I've always taken the approach of trying to find the best game that gives me an experience my collection doesn't already have. I didn't have a hidden movement game so I picked up Mind MGMT but it's my only 2021 game. I've also kickstarted Blood on the Clocktower as I hadn't seen another game like it and loved NRB's plays of it. I've bought a few dozen games over the past couple of years but they were based on lots of top 10/100 lists as they were ones that stood the test of time for people whose opinions I respect (such as yourself).

  • @andressaldeno6568
    @andressaldeno65682 жыл бұрын

    Great to talk about past great games.

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep

  • @ambierona
    @ambierona2 жыл бұрын

    With pretty much everything I get, I usually put it on my wishlist first and then wait a while to see if I still want/need it. My mom taught us when we were little by telling us we had to wait a week to see if we still wanted whatever toy we saw a commercial for at that moment. And usually we would forget about it. With board games, nowadays a lot of times I try to play a game first before getting it to see if I actually like it. So instead of buying a new game, I just add it to "want to play" on BGG. With video games, I put them on my wishlist and wait for a good sale, because I don't have enough time to play all the games I already have so I don't need to buy new ones. I guess that's true for board games too, but we also cycle our board game collection a lot.

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Excellent concept in general. Works amazingly with my kids...."if you ask for it again in a week, that's when we'll have the conversation"

  • @PurifyWithLight
    @PurifyWithLight2 жыл бұрын

    I back one game a year. Thats my filter. Last year was Hero Quest. This year is He-Man. Passing on Marvel Zombies was really hard.

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice, excellent self control

  • @pzubets
    @pzubets2 жыл бұрын

    I just clicked because of the title. That's what I needed to hear. Thank you, really.

  • @man2plus
    @man2plus2 жыл бұрын

    Buying games or anything is just a path of self-learning. Eventually a person will stop chasing new things, just sooner or later.

  • @henryjoconnell
    @henryjoconnell Жыл бұрын

    I watched this video a few weeks ago and found it brilliant. I vowed to myself not to buy another game this year and save money as well as really appreciate the games I already have (many of which are unplayed). Thank you so much for putting this sort of content out there. Anyway, since then I watched several more of your videos and now own City of Spies, Paris: La Cité de la Lumiére, Watergate, Hadrian's Wall and Encyclopedia all based on your reviews 😂

  • @thepuppiesinpink
    @thepuppiesinpink2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making this video! I would be really interested to hear your thoughts on kickstarter exclusive content, especially when that content may be a majority of the game (look at you, Marvel United) and how that plays into this conversation. Personally, I think there should be a lot less exclusivity in the hobby. Sure, it feeds “the chase”, but it doesn’t build up the hobby at all.

  • @jamis00
    @jamis002 жыл бұрын

    I needed this.

  • @emmlim7
    @emmlim72 жыл бұрын

    Your review is another filter. Thanks 😊

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks :)

  • @Eh_Eh-Ron
    @Eh_Eh-Ron2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent PSA Alex! 🙌

  • @Chazzmasterful
    @Chazzmasterful2 жыл бұрын

    Love these videos. Just an observation, the game in the upper left corner was very distracting it was reflecting all your lights really bad, very distracting. But a great video as usual.

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks chazz, helpful to know

  • @nightwolf55555
    @nightwolf555552 жыл бұрын

    One of my big reasons to say yes or no to a game is how many people they play for. That lowers my pool quite a bit. Do you play games with a solo mode? Do you need up to 6 players because you have a large group of friends? Do you only by 2 player games because it's just you and your bestie?

  • @johngoodwin9606
    @johngoodwin96062 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I started in the hobby in 2019. To control buying, I only allow myself to start playing a "new game to me" once per month. I have about a year's worth of "new" games, so not much incentive to buy right now. However, I liked the looks of "Hamlet: The Village Building Game" and you and others didn't find it a dud - so I backed it. My current "new game of the month" is Sierra West (2019)". Got for $5 in an action so around $20 with shipping. Has built in solo and it's fun. I play a new game 10 times, then put "into rotation" with a goal to play 25 times. Games played 25 times are either added to permanent collection or traded/given away.

  • @jawsvvvvv
    @jawsvvvvv2 жыл бұрын

    I have so many kickstarters and gamefound projects out right now. Grey fox has game delays and now I have realized that they are now shipping so that will mean I will get those projects at the same time. I have stopped backing projects for a while.

  • @lyg
    @lyg Жыл бұрын

    @BoardGameCo May you tell me which of your video playlist you would have grouped this under? I want to watch all of the other videos around this topic that you have done. Thanks!

  • @Cemaran01
    @Cemaran012 жыл бұрын

    The only thing I would add is to even wait on Kickstarters. I very rarely back a kickstarter for a first time game (a whopping 1 so far - maybe soon 2 if you'll count Sleeping Gods: Distant Skies). My kickstarter rule is: If the game is THAT GOOD, it will: 1. Be kickstarted again (potentially with an expansion or two), 2. Be available in retail or 3. You will find a copy on the secondary market. Yes, you might have to spend more money on that specific game but you will save so much more by not kickstarting tons of games.

  • @tenplayreviews4702
    @tenplayreviews47022 жыл бұрын

    I find that I have sooooo many awesome games that I’m stuck deciding which to play.

  • @fcorafaelsv1
    @fcorafaelsv12 жыл бұрын

    the only thing im waiting for is Blood Rage KS edition, already try once.... felt in love

  • @johnathanrhoades7751
    @johnathanrhoades77512 жыл бұрын

    I have slowed down a lot on board game acquisition. I have a good sized collection at this point, and I'm only pulled in to the stuff that really piques my interest. Maybe 5 games a year or something like that number. I think part of it is I have a bunch of unplayed games that I'm still super excited to get played. I'll still pick up Lacerda and Splotter

  • @NovaGirl8
    @NovaGirl82 жыл бұрын

    my collection is good enough for now. I only backed one big game recently and it is going to be fulfilled in 3-4 months. I should be fine for a while.

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice, enjoy it :)

  • @gelui13
    @gelui132 жыл бұрын

    I honestly love good reviews, sometimes those are of older games, and I love it! Because that means that game I awesome enough that it lasted until today!

  • @kefyras347
    @kefyras3472 жыл бұрын

    I usually just skip the first edition, because if it's good, usually it gets a reprint/2nd edition. Which will have fixed errata, usually a better rulebook. Sometimes even balance/gameplay changes based on feedback. And it frequently contains all the stretch goals from previous edition. It might be a bit more expensive, but i find it's well worth the risk. Sometimes i do buy the first edition, but only after if i'm certain i'll like it (after watching reviews and reading the rules).

  • @drago939393
    @drago9393932 жыл бұрын

    I'm with you. I'm still waiting for this new-fangled game called "Cosmic Encounter" to settle. I'll probably pick it up if it gets to a 50th anniversary.

  • @BoardGameCo

    @BoardGameCo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol

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