Stop Asking What the "Best Way to Train" Is. Do This Instead.

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  • @The21okok
    @The21okok2 жыл бұрын

    strong man who has a logical mind and calm voice like jm blakley

  • @andreabarone4964
    @andreabarone49642 жыл бұрын

    THE KING IS BACK

  • @MB2.0

    @MB2.0

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤴🤴🤴🤴

  • @irkenempire
    @irkenempire2 жыл бұрын

    I used to hang with a group that studied Kungfu and the teacher described the situation at hand as a "changing maze." Like, even if you did the same stuff in the same way tomorrow, you have so many different variables at play you should be forced to reorient yourself and start fresh...

  • @johntrains1317
    @johntrains13172 жыл бұрын

    Honestly the most useful thing to me and the thing that sets this channel apart from the sea of competitors is Bromley's ability simplify the process of improvement.

  • @kirby7475
    @kirby74752 жыл бұрын

    Excited to have you back, Bromley! Congrats on the new house, too. Bold move convincing the mrs. to have your setup in the living room lol. I’d never get away with that

  • @janpokrzywinski
    @janpokrzywinski2 жыл бұрын

    Great to see you back. Also, instructions unclear: I picked up "My FIrst Encyclopedia" instead of "Encyclopedia of bodybuilding".

  • @getsome3797
    @getsome37972 жыл бұрын

    Hey brother…..congrats on recent events and accomplishments. I’m an over 50 “trying to be a powerlifter” and I’ve learned so much from you. My squats have increased so fast, my buddy (also an old man) was very impressed. I learned that when i was young i could train like a mad man. But in my early 40’s, I definitely overtrained. In my mid 50’s, i squat every 10-14 days or so….great results. Thanks brother…

  • @G00FYG00B3

    @G00FYG00B3

    2 жыл бұрын

    This makes me happy , killing it man

  • @MiroTheHero7
    @MiroTheHero72 жыл бұрын

    I’m a simple guy. Bromley posts - I like the video

  • @Tom-tw1wd
    @Tom-tw1wd2 жыл бұрын

    This is true, for a long time I program hopped for minor things like some programs had bicep curls; some didn't. Some programs were specified to maybe using a trap bar instead of a straight bar for deadlifts. All kinds of nonsense. After going through the ringer a couple of times I realised that most programs just do this to either sell you their product or it will be a youtuber trying to make you watch their channel. I eventually just found one I liked and started focusing on getting stronger and threw caution to the wind and I'm actually enjoying lifting again instead of being really neurotic. Same thing happens a lot with nutrition I think as well (how much should i eat, how much protein, how many carbs etc) now I just eat a lot of clean healthy food, limit my crappy food intake to maybe once or twice a week then if my lifts feel like they're stalling I just add another 300 calories. Form as well I think kinda has this issue too, a lot of the time I used to stress about my form not being perfect when I was doing a balls to the wall set as if it would help me generate some hidden key to lifting more weight because the youtube gurus preach that without impeccable form you won't grow but I realised that perfect form under a true heavy load with fatigue is kinda a fairy tale (Yet there still is channels dedicated purely to squat form, wtf.) and that form improves as you get stronger. All just marketing bollocks to try and get more views I like your channel cos it's honest, I've unsubbed most others tbh.

  • @BaldOmniMan
    @BaldOmniMan2 жыл бұрын

    One of the few channels I cross reference. Great video

  • @ambatukoom

    @ambatukoom

    2 жыл бұрын

    hello serial commenter

  • @BaldOmniMan

    @BaldOmniMan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ambatukoom what did you gain from this comment?

  • @ambatukoom

    @ambatukoom

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BaldOmniMan baited a reply

  • @BaldOmniMan

    @BaldOmniMan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ambatukoom shame on you

  • @MB2.0

    @MB2.0

    2 жыл бұрын

    👀

  • @rh.m6660
    @rh.m66602 жыл бұрын

    I cant believe i watch shit like this for free. You're a king.

  • @aeadlich
    @aeadlich2 жыл бұрын

    Please contact elitefts to be on table talk. I would love to see you and Dave Tate geek out on programming.

  • @mickantra

    @mickantra

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tate mentioned you as a good source in one of his podcasts

  • @tuukkakankkunen2869

    @tuukkakankkunen2869

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, that would be awesome!

  • @helmutkrusemann9194

    @helmutkrusemann9194

    2 жыл бұрын

    agree 1000% but I think we should comment on elitefts videos that Dave reaches out to Alex

  • @aeadlich

    @aeadlich

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dave has made it clear that he doesn’t usually bother others to be guests. Still maybe worth a shot though.

  • @heeebeeegeeebeee
    @heeebeeegeeebeee2 жыл бұрын

    Haven’t watched bromley in a while - the channel has gotten some upgrades! Looks like the views are up and the video quality is better! Awesome - I’ll keep coming back

  • @lukehewko260
    @lukehewko2602 жыл бұрын

    Dude you seem like... excited and super fresh. I think the break did you some good!

  • @AlexanderBromley

    @AlexanderBromley

    2 жыл бұрын

    Might be. Taking my time with videos alleviates a lot of the panicky stress I get when I fall behind.

  • @pancakespushups4318
    @pancakespushups43182 жыл бұрын

    Happy to see you upload again man. Can’t wait to dive into this.

  • @thecowcanon
    @thecowcanon2 жыл бұрын

    Great video Coach! Good to see you back again

  • @jtdegaetani3123
    @jtdegaetani31232 жыл бұрын

    Glad to see these videos coming back. Helped clear up so much for me over the last year!🙌

  • @dhruvmandlik1533
    @dhruvmandlik15332 жыл бұрын

    You're a treasure .. please keep posting . It's of great help !

  • @kevinwestgate6308
    @kevinwestgate6308 Жыл бұрын

    Just bought your "base strength" book, can't wait to dig into it. Keep up the great content!

  • @haloty77
    @haloty772 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for coming back Alex, I was very sad for a month straight

  • @25davidhenry
    @25davidhenry2 жыл бұрын

    The wait was worth it! Great breakdown of training. I love how you focus the process down to progress. And even bringing up that's what you are after in other endeavors - studying, skills, etc. Just a well-thought-out plan and explained with organization and great metaphors.

  • @jacobhenderson9605
    @jacobhenderson96052 жыл бұрын

    Excited to see you back big guy and congratz on the house!

  • @Blood_fog
    @Blood_fog2 жыл бұрын

    FINALLY. Been waiting for new videos since the last one. Welcome back king

  • @porqpine53
    @porqpine532 жыл бұрын

    Production quality has been on a steady rise Bromley! The lighting on this one is spot on. I'm in Week 2 on a 4th Wave of the Baby Bully from Peak Strength and I'm already seeing insane hypertrophy and endurance gains. Took a week deload between Wave 3 and 4 and was much needed for me to hit the gas at the start of last week. Excited to transition into a full blown Bullmastiff Base at the beginning of next year!

  • @antonisgkiokas4359
    @antonisgkiokas43592 жыл бұрын

    thank you for these incredible information. the way you explain things is really outstanding.KEEP IT UP!

  • @JamesSchanen
    @JamesSchanen Жыл бұрын

    This was really helpful. Thank you.

  • @pragmaticfitness9151
    @pragmaticfitness91512 жыл бұрын

    What a gift to have this man. Thank you. God bless.

  • @fourleaf3797
    @fourleaf37972 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all the videos!

  • @cls34
    @cls342 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the book, Bromley!

  • @jonm2631
    @jonm26312 жыл бұрын

    Hey Alex, I know it may not necessarily be your focus, but I’d love to see a BJJ/MMA program video to follow up your precious video on the subject of strength for those sports. Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on balancing the stress and fatigue of training vs strength and conditioning and how that impacts things like volume, frequency, etc.

  • @gaminikokawalage7124

    @gaminikokawalage7124

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well I think its pretty manageable since a strength routine can be as little as 3 days per week, and depending on your program, you don't necessarily be that fatigued after a workout. On the harder strength training days, you can spar lighter, more technical

  • @jamesbedwell8793
    @jamesbedwell87932 жыл бұрын

    More top tier content, love to see it

  • @zorgivanov8685
    @zorgivanov86852 жыл бұрын

    Extremely good content! Thank you!

  • @utgardkraft1412
    @utgardkraft14122 жыл бұрын

    Man, the commonest sensest man on the fitness tube. This is gold. Im closing in on the end of a little diet to get less fluffy. Then Im going into a real "base phase" for at least 6 months.

  • @indian419

    @indian419

    2 жыл бұрын

    What's a base phase and are you doing a moderate carb high protein low fat diet to get less fluffy??

  • @utgardkraft1412

    @utgardkraft1412

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@indian419 well, what I call a "base phase" would be the foundation. Building mass, not going for 1 rep maxes or so, having a variety of exercises to build up weak points etc. As to my "diet" it isnt one specific diet but more my regular food, with smaller portions. I care little for my ratio of macros as long as I get sufficient protein (around 200g for me). The only thing I have done to lose fat have been to reduce portions and not eat icecream, potato chips and general garbage. No need to go crazy with it.

  • @indian419

    @indian419

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@utgardkraft1412 alright what foundation exercises would you suggest for bench & deadlifts

  • @utgardkraft1412

    @utgardkraft1412

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@indian419 stuff that is mechanically harder for example. Similar but different. Like incline bench press, pin-presses from different heights, dumbells and of course overhead presses of all varieties, push, strict, behind the neck etc. Do all of those (not all at once) and progress them and your bench will follow. Same with deadlift. Rack pulls if you are weaker at lockout, deficits if you are weaker of the floor. RDL and Stiff Legged deadlifts for volume work. One legged stuff, lunges and so on, and leg curls bc the hamstring needs to be worked through both joints, helped me a tonne with knee pain. Pick 3-4 different exercises per movement pattern and go through them all over 12 weeks, progressing both weight and reps in each (nothing is cut in stone, so dont switch exercises if you are still progressing). None of this is magic. It worked 50 years ago and it works now. It took me a while to figure out I wasnt a special snowflake, but once I did I started growing again.

  • @CCSABCD
    @CCSABCD2 жыл бұрын

    My man it was about time!

  • @HAL-dm1eh
    @HAL-dm1eh2 жыл бұрын

    7:36 I had to learn this the hard way, and it cost me months of wasted time and effort. But I had to experience it to know the mechanism.

  • @phreekziq107
    @phreekziq1072 жыл бұрын

    thank you for your videos, man

  • @JonathanSchoreels91
    @JonathanSchoreels912 жыл бұрын

    We missed you Alexander!

  • @xnj_
    @xnj_2 жыл бұрын

    The quality of your content is growing exponentially

  • @andrewmaher8409
    @andrewmaher84092 жыл бұрын

    "Nowadays everybody is a critic because it comes at no cost. And everybody's superpower is calling things problematic. but very few people actually commit to a policy or a solution." Well said that man... Bromley gets it.

  • @gotahgemini6415
    @gotahgemini64152 жыл бұрын

    best video on the topic that I have watched so far

  • @jk-tn8ry
    @jk-tn8ry2 жыл бұрын

    Helpful as always

  • @isuzooms
    @isuzooms2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video!!

  • @lefonwastaken3393
    @lefonwastaken33932 жыл бұрын

    Coach Brom is back!

  • @jollysinghx3933
    @jollysinghx39332 жыл бұрын

    Waiting for the new book!

  • @georgesarreas5509
    @georgesarreas55092 жыл бұрын

    I missed you!!!

  • @LeeH3nson
    @LeeH3nson2 жыл бұрын

    Tank top, training, or supps, either way Bromley looking F'ing swole 💪🏿

  • @ramonkroes325
    @ramonkroes3252 жыл бұрын

    Hey Alexander, love your videos about programming and videos like this. I was wondering what your opinion is about the programming method that 'Reactive training systems' uses, "emerging strategies". Maybe you already made a post or blog about this before though. Keep the videos coming a lot of my knowledge is based on your vids!

  • @cocvhecv
    @cocvhecv2 жыл бұрын

    Base and Peak, purchased.

  • @wyattbreymeyer4033
    @wyattbreymeyer40332 жыл бұрын

    for real, its just about putting the work in, get in, grind, and get out,

  • @TheSacredOrderOfKnightlyValor
    @TheSacredOrderOfKnightlyValor2 жыл бұрын

    Great channel. Subbed! Topic suggestion: Follow-up to your video: Strongman Training Without Equipment. How would you program that?

  • @foreverendeavor5751
    @foreverendeavor57512 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Starting to get back in shape after 10 years on the couch being a piece of crap.

  • @benjamindavis2475

    @benjamindavis2475

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good luck 😃 take your time

  • @heveyweightheveyweight5399
    @heveyweightheveyweight53992 жыл бұрын

    Each time he breaks super sayin levels the hair line receedes by a millimeter and goes directly to the beard. Thanks for the upload bro good video

  • @andybiondi3626
    @andybiondi3626 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on the house. Too much multitasking is creating robots. U do you. Very good video. Lots of answers here. Some won't like it because there is no spoon feeding. Base strength is an amazing book. Will get peak strength soon.

  • @celiachunk1616
    @celiachunk16162 жыл бұрын

    BROMLEY I MISSED YOU Also currently on Wave 3 of Bullmastiff. 12rm on squat has gone up 30lbs already. Excited to see where I end up, but holy moly the lower body days have me BEAT.

  • @AlexanderBromley

    @AlexanderBromley

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's awesome! Those methods are incredibly effective if you work them hard but few do. Keep an eye on the fatigue. It's ok to feel trashed for a day or two after a workout but consider deloading of moving into the next phase if it leads to performance dropping each workout.

  • @celiachunk1616

    @celiachunk1616

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AlexanderBromley thanks! Also quick question if you’ve got the time: my last day of wave 2 is today, and my shoulders have been feeling pretty beat up. Amraps aren’t regressing, but also not improving compared to previous cycles. My volume work on my variations is improving though. Do you think I should deload before wave 3 of Base? Or tough it out until Peak and accept that I’ll be fatigued in Base? Long question, but thanks for any help. Your content has helped me more than I can even say lol.

  • @cocvhecv
    @cocvhecv2 жыл бұрын

    Subscribed.

  • @jonmabi3608
    @jonmabi36082 жыл бұрын

    Hi Alex. I enjoyed this video very much. I learned a lot. I have a question unrelated to this video that perhaps you could address. Could you give your opinion on strength and conditioning for athletes especially for MMA? I’m not looking for a specific answer I just want to hear your thoughts on it. With what you knew back then versus what you know now, I would very much like to know your views on it now. Thank you for providing excellent content.

  • @TheBeast-qv2gy
    @TheBeast-qv2gy2 жыл бұрын

    Waited a long time but professor bromley is fuckin back💪💪💪

  • @jakobs2152
    @jakobs21522 жыл бұрын

    I like to use multiple methods at the same time, ill sometimes train more days a week than I normally do, I'll also switch up the exersises for the same body part and when I do a certain weight on an exersise for a few weeks I'll increase the weight by a few pounds

  • @hujiroyanma7257
    @hujiroyanma72572 жыл бұрын

    Quality content

  • @MDDeardorff
    @MDDeardorff2 жыл бұрын

    You definitely recover better when you don’t go to failure

  • @romainb6697
    @romainb66972 жыл бұрын

    I just started watching your KZread channel a few weeks ago and honestly you have one of the greatest quality of content I've seen. Jason Blaha and you are the only ones I'm watching at the moment. Thanks for the great videos !

  • @romainb6697

    @romainb6697

    2 жыл бұрын

    @TurboBaner A lot of people criticize him for what he's done a while ago, however he has some of the most honest and detailled content in the fitness game. He's also super close to the community and answers most good questions asked. I think he's a good person too

  • @CnCstrengthperformance
    @CnCstrengthperformance2 жыл бұрын

    Love it

  • @saz1471
    @saz1471 Жыл бұрын

    I love you king

  • @footballover01
    @footballover019 ай бұрын

    I've seen way too many lifting videos and channels, this though!!

  • @TheVanneo
    @TheVanneo2 жыл бұрын

    In the long run, just do what you enjoy.

  • @brockstar1311
    @brockstar13112 жыл бұрын

    Good to hear you are getting out of California.

  • @AlexanderBromley

    @AlexanderBromley

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm excited to be able to afford life.

  • @brockstar1311

    @brockstar1311

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AlexanderBromley currently mid egress myself. Many compelling reasons to leave.

  • @jingsndthings
    @jingsndthings2 жыл бұрын

    13:00 that's what she said

  • @moresizemoreguys9747
    @moresizemoreguys97472 жыл бұрын

    Cool to see you dress up as Phillion for halloween

  • @carlosbandit2889
    @carlosbandit28892 жыл бұрын

    Love u

  • @richardgoudeau8507
    @richardgoudeau8507 Жыл бұрын

    Mr Bromley, Love your videos. Im 72. Just started volumizing workout u talked about. How long should I keep doing it? I just want to stay strong for hunting!! Please help.

  • @AlexanderBromley

    @AlexanderBromley

    Жыл бұрын

    I actually wouldn't recommend volumizing for you. Past a certain age, you are actually going to get more out of doing strength-specific work more often. I would have you do a simple linear progression and keep the emphasis on adding small amounts of weight each workout.

  • @richardgoudeau8507

    @richardgoudeau8507

    Жыл бұрын

    Ok Thx so much

  • @bushmaster6894
    @bushmaster68942 жыл бұрын

    Telling me not to ask makes me want to ask even more. That way I’ll have more videos to watch.

  • @darko_writes
    @darko_writes2 ай бұрын

    Quick question - what's the best way to train?

  • @nandoph8
    @nandoph82 жыл бұрын

    Where did you get that shirt??

  • @AlexanderBromley

    @AlexanderBromley

    2 жыл бұрын

    teepublic. Got a bunch of Halloween tanks from them

  • @The21okok
    @The21okok2 жыл бұрын

    The best choice to listen to while sleeping. I'm not being sarcastic lmao Please... make the video longer.

  • @tjrugbymuscle
    @tjrugbymuscle2 жыл бұрын

    I love the premise - but you're still getting dumb questions because it's easier to sell people that stuff, and people wanna make money

  • @simon4510
    @simon45102 жыл бұрын

    Comment for the algo 🙏

  • @mrmabb123
    @mrmabb1232 жыл бұрын

    So....wats da best way to tren?

  • @DiscomongoEGE
    @DiscomongoEGE2 жыл бұрын

    For the algorithm

  • @knrdklpn
    @knrdklpn2 жыл бұрын

    Welcome Texas!!!

  • @zsahe21
    @zsahe21 Жыл бұрын

    Sad this video has only 2K views.

  • @heathfisher8317
    @heathfisher83172 жыл бұрын

    Who is the Alex bromley of the running world

  • @fightingtalk6253
    @fightingtalk62532 жыл бұрын

    If you to get good at something train it everyday, you don’t need rest days

  • @zsahe21
    @zsahe21 Жыл бұрын

    !!!!!

  • @schonsense
    @schonsense2 жыл бұрын

    welcome to texas

  • @dadbod488
    @dadbod4882 жыл бұрын

    So what you're saying is, I need to do high volume rep work? You're most likely right, but.... Yuck 😂

  • @AlexanderBromley

    @AlexanderBromley

    2 жыл бұрын

    You need to do whatever you haven't been.... so yes

  • @danr3131
    @danr31312 жыл бұрын

    Hey man, I would appreciate it if I didn't have to feel attacked by your thumbnail 😅

  • @banjod5363
    @banjod53632 жыл бұрын

    I'm a little confused. When you say (in other videos), to for example do 60% x 3 x 8, that's not very heavy. Just feels like spinning my wheels, not actually pushing anything. You then say to add for example 5 lb to that next workout, then 5 lb again the next. So over time it actually gets difficult. Starting this program way below what you could actually do. The whole of the first workouts aren't very difficult or heavy, but a few weeks in they do become that. Is this accurate? Is this how marks 5x5 is actually meant to be run? Not starting with your max load on every 5x5 exercise, but starting way below?

  • @AlexanderBromley

    @AlexanderBromley

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's 100% correct. You cannot structure your training to go as hard as you can every workout without it becoming unsustainable and that's the hardest lesson for most gym rats to learn (going ham works in the context of bodybuilding, where small movements and high reps don't require so much systemic recovovey, but that doesn't work for performance goals so well). Some of the most productive training methods are sub-maximal, meaning you leave plenty in the tank on each set. As I said in the video, what your frequency is like, which exercises you pick, how much effort you apply..... these can all be tweaked and changed when putting together a program. The only thing that matters is that you increase stress consistently over time.

  • @sneeuwballa

    @sneeuwballa

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, you'd never start off with an absolute max because you need time to adapt to the volume of the new program and to iron out any tenchnical inconsistencies, which would be too hard using high relative intensities.

  • @banjod5363

    @banjod5363

    2 жыл бұрын

    I see. Thanks a lot. Just really confusing coming from a bodybuilding and max effort every workout type of mindset.

  • @chipsketo8109
    @chipsketo81092 жыл бұрын

    If you’ve never heard of Natural Hypertrophy, he is a true shut up and lift guy

  • @helmutkrusemann9194
    @helmutkrusemann91942 жыл бұрын

    ok, so for a dumb ass like me, hypertrophy and muscle building first, then strength like powerlifting? with which one of your programs should I start? thank you

  • @mickantra
    @mickantra2 жыл бұрын

    The title keeps changing! Ever think about doing these videos while rambling around in the woods with a selfie stick?

  • @AlexanderBromley

    @AlexanderBromley

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol part of the evolution of the KZreadr. Testing thumbs and titles to see what sticks. It's dumb, but necessary. I would actually love to do that because my best thoughts come when I'm walking (and I refuse to do that around other people).

  • @mickantra

    @mickantra

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AlexanderBromley Rossman's bike rides and Luke Smith's rambling rants are always entertaining. Your stuff is great btw, it's nice getting reminded to ignore the noise.

  • @diarmuidbalfe7264
    @diarmuidbalfe72642 жыл бұрын

    Algorithm

  • @Chem_Cat
    @Chem_Cat2 жыл бұрын

    Some points I really disagree with. 1:52 False dichotomy: Who the hell is claiming or even thinking this? It is better to do the work than to think about? Offcourse… You can also think a bit about your training without having to ‘sift through’ every study and also train with effort. 2:26 A bit ironic you are following your own golden rule in this video. 3:02 This is YOUR viewpoint of the so called ‘academic approach’. The people I follow don’t use studies as a tool for binary thoughts. It is to fill in the grey shades. The ‘science-based fitness’ I follow DO get into the weeds about some minutiae but at the same time they talk all the time how little those aspects rly make a difference. Those things are there to optimize for advanced/profesionnals. Most of the results from studies just show us some trends and how big the range is for a positive result. 4:08 I want this ‘nugget of truth’ out of my brain asap. It IS the stress itself your body responds to! If it adapts then you can increase the stress, progress it. This could be described as the training dose (volume, effort, intensity, external factors, nutrition,...). If those parameters form a training dose that is somewhere in a range that you would respond positively to, then you can adapt and then progress it to keep the dose in the beneficial range for you. Your nugget is very vague for me. Reminds me off ‘train harder than last time’. If you start you with one set/week for a muscle at RIR 10. and progress it over 10 weeks to a RIR 8, I’m willing to bet my left nut that you would not have made muscle gains. So the specific stress IS important. There are some min and max’s that apply and it thus follows that there is an optimal range for your training dose for any 1 time. it just happens to be that you would need to increase/progress that dose over time. This is not the same as that the progression itself is what you adapt to. About your dials point. This fits in with the dose concept. One dial can have a bigger impact on the dose than another dial. (in studies they try to keep as many dials steady and only turn one to see what it does). One person can respond bad to intensity. So if he turns on the intensity dial, his dose shoots up like crazy. He gets hurt or overtrains. One can have the same with volume or effort… What studies show us is that the average beginners underrate their effort somewhat, so the average trainnee needs to train harder. They also benefit from higher volume, they are not doing enough. More advanced ppl can rate their effort quite well. Does this mean all of them can, no. It’s just a general trend we can see.

  • @AlexanderBromley

    @AlexanderBromley

    2 жыл бұрын

    1:52 No, it's not. The dichotomy holds up. Read on. 2:31 Lol.... ok. I push that 'methods are many, principles are few' and principles are inherently vague. My work, however, is overflowing with concrete examples of these principles in action. My recommendations are compatible with the entire history of the field (both informal and scientific) so I feel comfortable saying that I'm not deficient, you just aren't well read. 3:02 My viewpoint doesn't concern your idealized fantasy about how these hollow research studies supposedly make coaches and lifters' lives better. Dead serious, the way you seem to think these guys apply 'science' to their methods.... they don't. It's branding and fiction. The things they do in training that get a good result are done by everyone already. My viewpoint is about what happens in real life when white-belt lifters feel obligated to further complicate an already complex endeavor by forcing the findings of these studies onto methods that have worked independantly for the better part of a century. It doesn't yield a better outcome. "in studies they try to keep as many dials steady and only turn one to see what it does" Totes, in real life this teaches students to see a binary question where there shouldn't be one. I watched Nippard on Fouad's podcast and he asked him a painfully simple question; "go to failure or no?". Nippard squirmed for 10 minutes trying to stretch his knowledge of studies on the matter into something that looked like a useful conclusion. The correct answer is "it depends entirely on where the lifter is in their training cycle; for example: someone who is not conditioned to failure sets or who has spent a lot of time with sub-max volume will respond better in the short term than someone who already trains to failure on a consistent basis". Nippard failed; instead of applying common sense context, he treated the question as if one approach might objectively be better than the other. Fantastic examples of how, even with the most accomplished persons, studies don't aid but actually confound what should be simple and straight forward. To take it a step further, Google any shieko template or look into the decoupling of volume and intensity that the soviets did, then ponder how useless a question like 'which reps are best?' is. The bit about 'grey shades'..... jesus man. I'm getting a very clear picture as to your experience level given how easily you gobble up these nonsense rationalizations. What is a 'grey shade' and how is it different than the 'minutiae that doesn't matter that much'? Do you really, truly believe that Nippard or Israetel's own training is substantially better or unique than the 99% of their bodybuilding peers who don't use research studies at all? Give me an example of a formal research paper filling in a 'grey shade' for an elite lifter/bodybuilder, their coach or their established training method. I'll make a video on whatever you submit and give you full credit for bringing it to my attention. Not even kidding. 4:08 Dead wrong and a way to waste a lot of your workouts worrying about things that don't matter. You assume that a specific stress that creates a positive result is somehow inherently 'better' for that lifter and not a result of the lifter's current (and temporary) circumstance. The BIG piece you are missing is that the mode of stress that works best for a lifter CHANGES AS THE LIFTER DEVELOPS. Your 'best' training threshold stops yielding returns BECAUSE you adapted to it. That's the point of adaptation, to render the same stress inert, and a novel stress is required to spur further adaptation. Andy Baker has a good bit on the HIT craze perpetuated by Mike Mentzer. These guys all jumped on the bandwagon when they started using few sets with all-out effort and grew like crazy. "This is the way to train!". The reality is that their training foundation was years spent with traditional high volume work and their new growth was a result of the shift in training threshold. It was the intensity work ON TOP of years of volume training, not the intensity work by itself. So no, dodo, the EXACT stress is not important because you can't keep using the EXACT stress to keep growing. You have to manipulate anyone of those dials (and the rest have to turn in a specific way with it that the studies don't know how to address) to continuously get a good result and continue growth. That's what periodization is. There are a million rep/volume prescriptions that cause long term growth and they are all viable. Nuckols had a good piece on volume that talked about similarities in muscle mass of the worlds most elite lifters. Google "Johnnie Jackson", "Pudzianowski" and "Vasily Aleexeyev" and evaluate the similarities in delt size and pressing ability, despite spending their lives in wildly different training thresholds relative to each other. Triples make you bigger and stronger, 8s make you bigger and stronger and 15s make you bigger and stronger. Obsessing over which is better/faster based on a 12 week study is useless because it doesn't ask what happens when that rep range stops working for you.

  • @Chem_Cat

    @Chem_Cat

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AlexanderBromley -Reading on I guess, even if this is a logical fallacy... - Clearly mad at the science base. And vague in this video ( you do better job in other vids tbh) because that golden nugget I needed to tattoo on my head is just not correctly worded. - 3:02 You say it is my fantasy, I say you have a warped view. I guess we see it differently. They do apply the science, they also apply what gets results and what has been done by other succesfull coaches. It is not mutually exclusive. - Point about white belt lifters I agree on. I’m not talking about a random joe discussing a study in a facebook post tho. If you get your info from them, idk man… -How do you know what students see? There are many stupid ppl, but common. Most of ‘the students’ (who tf are you talking about) don’t get their info straight from a study, they get it through MASS or youtube or a podcast. There they give context and nuance, the opposite of binary. -The correct answer point. I don’t recall this podcast that well tbh. There are many considerations here not only their training history, but it is a factor. (How frequent, excercise, reps,...) To exaggerate, you are not going to failure on a 50 rep squat for 5 sets 7 times a week. -Gobble grey gobble shades gobble -So I need to find a nuanced training idea for a random established coach that they are not aware off? Do you want me to search and figure out their whole training collection? LMFAO -Okay let me give you something that is at the top of my memory. Look up stretch-mediated-hypertrophy-rom on Menno Henselmans site. Some top coaches are probably open to partials and are not full nazi on only full ROM. But for me this was a bit of grey in the FULL ROM ONLY I hear all the time. And I probably won't do many partials at lockout for isolations. Sadly I'm not omniscent, so this might be something all of them know. I could search a bit more but I need to actually sleep soon and not read studies, I'm not that nerdy. As usual the study had limitations 🤡 -On 4:08 I think in practice we agree, some semantics and terms are muddled I feel like. Where do I assume this? I do assume something positive is better than a negative result, yes? It applies to that current circumstance indeed. And it also changes over time. Did I not state this correctly? You adapt to a dose if that dose is in the beneficial response range for you. You apply progressive overload to the training dose so the dose stays in the beneficial range. -I don’t say the EXACT stress. I talk about how a range exists to a training dose. And that dose range can be created by many different configuration of your dials/parameters. -Don’t call me names or I’ll become vile. Mr T-REX ;) Base phase had better storytelling than peak phase btw 😇 -So the point where we start to rly drift apart is here. So you can’t keep using the exact same configuration to keep growing? The exact same? No, not exactly the same. If you add load/reps/volume it is not the exactly the same. Didn’t you talk about Mike T’s programming once? He used the same succesfull microcycle weeks on end. -I also use periodization in my own program. (powerlifting focus) But I think (assumption) many bodybuilders don’t use it, and for what it is worth to you it hasn’t be shown important for BB in studies. ‘Minutiae’

  • @AlexanderBromley

    @AlexanderBromley

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Chem_Cat The things that stood out: "They do apply science" - you just repeated your assertion, which you fundamentally have no basis to believe. Your consumption of internet content has given you an unearned sense of confidence as to what people do and don't do. That's a serious bias. "white belt lifters" - I'm not talking about getting information from them, I'm talking about how these messages affect them. That's the whole point of this, giving the audience better tools to get a positive result. The best have already figured it out one way or another, this discussion isn't for them. "the students" - This has been my living for the last 15 years. Between my gym, coaching and network of other professionals that range from personal trainers and college coaches to the best lifters in the world, I promise you I'm more qualified to talk about how the average lifter interprets things than anyone you know, which is the entire reason my channel is successful to begin with. You keep dismissing my points as saying "who is even saying this?". That's the same as saying 'I don't have this problem so it's not worth talking about'. Again, complete bias that's directly based on lack of experience. Grey area - yeah, i thought so "So I need to....?" No, you need to substantiate your world view with evidence. Mennos study - Very, very few bodybuilders train with full range of motion. 20 years ago, the muscle mags tried marketing them as X-reps and it never stuck, but many bodybuilders stay short of full stretch and short of lockout (funny because israetel insists on full range). This was paradigm shifting for absolutely no one. Mike Ts program example led to a growth effect, then diminished each week until a new block was required. 4-6 weeks, then the entire dose changed (not just increased, changed). These moves are entirely outside of what research can address, let alone make recommendations on. There's more and more and more Long story short, the people winning from top to bottom can take or leave formal academic research because it's already built into the established methods most everyone use. The ones emersing themselves in it are likely to get distracted and focus on minutiae or frame problems the wrong way because of the IMMENSE limit to studies.

  • @Chem_Cat

    @Chem_Cat

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AlexanderBromley With 'they' I was talking about the ppl I follow and their coaching practices. My basis of knowing what they do is them telling what they do. Them telling how they apply the science. And looking at their programs. Most of their practices are just logical or data-based but their starting framework and some diagnostic tools can have a 'science-base'. I just find it very hard to believe there are that many people reading and interpretting studies themselves. Reading so many of them and then getting confused by binary think. So yes this is a bias. I admit. I have no way of proving this. If you say the amount is substantial than I'll just take your word for it. When I started it was before much information was available. So i just blasted chest to failure. Bro split with no legs. Plateau very early on. Lost interest and quit for a few years. Until Nipples' videos caught my attention. Made me actually learn how to train. His fundamentals series opened my eyes to how much freedom there is. Way better than chasing the burn from arnie. This is my bias. Ah now it needs to be a nuanced idea that is also paradigm shifting. Sounds almost like it is not possible by definition itself. Just an impossible task. Go find something yourself and make a video. I'll watch. Easy win There is more and more... Just the part I wanted a response to. Could respond to this, but w/e. Ignore studies and just train harder than last time YEAH LETS GO. gET HypED. Thats your point right? 😉 Just kidding, I don't expect any response further. Cya in the gym or next vid

  • @tjcogger1974

    @tjcogger1974

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Chem_Cat you can take this L.

  • @aparthia
    @aparthia2 жыл бұрын

    Do not like those slowmotion cuts. Great information, but the delivery was honestly subpar in this video :/

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