One of my favorite things when analyzing Stockfish's games is when Stockfish gives itself brilliant moves or inaccuracies

@patstaysuckafreeboss8006

Жыл бұрын

Probably analyzing at a higher depth

@jean-pierrecoffe6666

Жыл бұрын

@@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 Higher depth, and the browser integrated version is often not the latest update

@MH_VOID

Жыл бұрын

@@jean-pierrecoffe6666 not to mention it's just straight-up less performant. Like, yeah WASM is pretty fast, but definitely not at native speeds - typically being 50%-250% slower - so that much less computation done and that many less brilliancies and inaccuracies gleaned

@veni1

Жыл бұрын

it's a low depth version analyzing the better one though

@Andrew-jh2bn

Жыл бұрын

@dude3000 yeah, they use stockfish, but the stockfish algorithm doesn't really have "brilliancy" or "inaccuracies", every position simply gets a score. The chess website decides what those are.

Levy talking about his dog gives the same vibes as when you try to distract the teacher by making him talk about his life 😂

@5bitcube

Жыл бұрын

Bro, this gave me major flashbacks. I don't remember doing it myself, but I definitely witnessed in the classroom and it was fucking funny haha

@jaideepshekhar4621

Жыл бұрын

Relatable AS FUCK.

@Shiver197

Жыл бұрын

@Seeing Star is this a link to my childhood?? or?

@vivvpprof

Жыл бұрын

Very astute observation. Like, I can't follow what's being said in the class but have you heard what Trump said about XYZ?

@noahollington9946

Жыл бұрын

so true! 🤣

No idea how anyone would be mad that the dog was "interrupting" the video, its genuinely like a treat or something for clicking on here. 😂

@malknight4197

Жыл бұрын

same

@dolthhaven8564

11 ай бұрын

i didnt like it

@jessetrueba9578

11 ай бұрын

Are you an uzi fan?

@serioussilliness2064

4 ай бұрын

Yayy

@L.G.X.69420

3 ай бұрын

​@@dolthhaven8564L

just love this guy's attitude and personality. Watching him is more fun than playing chess.

@igorignaz5319

Жыл бұрын

hes basicly gatekeeping us from getting good with good content :D haha love it

@yousufownzu6902

Жыл бұрын

What happened to alphazero?

@elynolamat674

Жыл бұрын

@@yousufownzu6902 The dev move on and LCZero is build from AZero framework.

@yousufownzu6902

Жыл бұрын

@@elynolamat674 so u r saying theybwere better engines than alphazero and googles deep mind smthing… Now stock fish is the best?

@elynolamat674

Жыл бұрын

@@yousufownzu6902 yes

"I'm giving Stockfish an honorary Grandmaster title" Stockfish: am I a joke to you?

@piggynatorcool668

Жыл бұрын

Stockfish is no mere GM

@lyfehaxandtrix3481

Жыл бұрын

Lmao Stockfish solos the whole verse

@Chaos_Theory947

Жыл бұрын

Levy should’ve given them honorary engine master titles

@phen-themoogle7651

Жыл бұрын

Stockfish should grant humans GM titles if they can draw against Stockfish jk

@bishlish

Жыл бұрын

Stockfish is a gm, god master

Levy: spends 5 minutes explaining 1 move Also Levy anyways so none of that happened

@benjaminoechsli1941

Жыл бұрын

It's honestly one of the most entertaining things about Gotham videos.

@Blinkers2007GameDev

Жыл бұрын

lmfao

@dugglinieduardo2690

Жыл бұрын

@@benjaminoechsli1941 Indeed. Exploring theoretical lines regardless of if they were played is the essence of chess.

@mihailmilev9909

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking about this a few videos ago as well lol

@ferociousfeind8538

Жыл бұрын

The engines each do about two hours of this before each of their moves, that's often how they play :P

One of the things I *LOVE* about engine games is how the tempo can get so high that they won't make immediate takes because something else needs to happen first and that something else is so important that they will just leave pieces lying around

@micayahritchie7158

Жыл бұрын

Do you know that the concept of having pets indoors and pets being cute and cuddly are not universal?

@Yafama

Жыл бұрын

@@micayahritchie7158 Wrong reply?

@micayahritchie7158

Жыл бұрын

@@Yafama Going to be real with you. I don't remember commenting here and I can't find it so idk

@Herculean.Aficionado

Жыл бұрын

@@micayahritchie7158 that comment looked so out of place 😂😂😂 Did you smoke something before you commented?

@micayahritchie7158

Жыл бұрын

@@Herculean.Aficionado i still can't see the comment you're referring to

20:17 We saw with the high level GO and DotA AIs that once they were guaranteed to win they started making moves that were no longer optimal. They didn't care if they won by a tiny margin or a massive one.

@KitKatHexe

Жыл бұрын

I came here after watching 40K videos and I thought my KZread app was glitching because when you said "DotA AI" I thought it said "DAoT AI" and my brain basically had to reboot

@kamiihate3733

Жыл бұрын

That's really interesting, do we have an explanation for that?

@snbeast9545

Жыл бұрын

Is it possible that it was diverting the king so that it could safely play Bc5? edit: what am I talking about the king moved on its own between those

@D3m0nX-01

Жыл бұрын

@@KitKatHexe I smell heresy

@NiliMoto

Жыл бұрын

@@snbeast9545 no i honestly think you're right! I cant begin to comprehend all the lines that could've come from not sacking the pawn but it very much looks like a classic attraction tactic and i can definitely imagine how the king on the 6th rank is better for black in some way so white chose to attract it to the 5th. If the king just moves out of check that pawn becomes another threat of queening. Again im no engine but in my eyes its more likely to be an attraction tactic rather than a humorous blunder

If Stockfish sacrifices material seemingly for no reason in the endgame (sometimes even a full queen), it's probably because it's close to getting into a theoretical (100%) known win according to the tablebase. It sacrifices the pieces to get into a known win faster (a position with 6 or 7 pieces on the board).

@javrancheng9917

Жыл бұрын

That's also my guess, if I'm not mistaken, the game is Superfinal game 88, and sf already given 150+ evaluation on move 53.

@tszyau7264

Жыл бұрын

I think the engines are only given 6 piece tablebase not 7 and that's why Leela instantly resigned when there are only 6 pieces left

@MacDaniboi

Жыл бұрын

If that is true, that is also very sad.

@RedArremer

Жыл бұрын

I posted this as well. It's because of TB probing. I'm surprised at how little chess masters know about how these chess engines work, seeing as how they have to use them all the time in pre-game prep. Also there's a lot of people confused in the comments asking why Leela didn't get a shot as white in the same opening. TCEC does in fact give each side a chance at the same opening, and SF still blew Leela out of the water with something like 18 winning game pairs to just ONE for Leela.

@ShadowOfCicero

Жыл бұрын

I mean, to an engine, a known win is no different than a checkmate, so logically, a known win in 2 would be preferred to a checkmate in 3.

Door: *OPENS* Levy: "Must have been the wind"

@seltascare4713

Жыл бұрын

Npc of Skyrim:

@MegaJohny777

Жыл бұрын

What's that then!? There's someone prowling round here!

@M_Zidane

Жыл бұрын

He would not survive in a horror movie

@Toshinben

Жыл бұрын

So, which horror movie villain would get Levy: Jason Voorhees, Freddy Krueger, his wife (as a zombie), his dog (as a zombie), his wife (Bodysnatched), his dog (alien parasite), the person who was murdered in his apartment (as a ghost), homicidal wasps, demons (the Devil's Advocate type - he lives in NYC)?

@M_Zidane

Жыл бұрын

@Toshinben even the scream guy would get him

The dog interactions made me so incredibly happy.

They say Levi's dog is still squeaking to this day.

We're doomed when Stockfish becomes self-aware

@setshabadipitsho1185

Жыл бұрын

Legit 😅😅

@eacringesports5137

Жыл бұрын

En passants behind you

@Suranda68

Жыл бұрын

yeah he is a real creep

@JimmyOlsson

Жыл бұрын

Check mate...

@thearcanehunter2736

Жыл бұрын

@@eacringesports5137 This is the best comment on youtube.

I will never be disappointed by Benji's guest appearances

@dejackarse7278

Жыл бұрын

As a dog enthusiast. I enjoyed the guest star of this episode :D

@mihailmilev9909

Жыл бұрын

@@dejackarse7278 same. It's literally rn as I read this

@wow-roblox8370

Жыл бұрын

@@dejackarse7278 yep, and whenever you see them remember to like and subscribe

@JulianSloman

Жыл бұрын

I could very much live without - but there's this beautiful thing: fast fowarding!

Levy: “I’m not going to glorify bullying” Also Levy: Puts out multiple extensive videos of alpha zero murdering Stockfish.

@mohamademirhareez4651

Жыл бұрын

Alpha zero ain’t beating the most recent stockfish version now I think

@Baru_boy

Жыл бұрын

@@mohamademirhareez4651 what if they update alpha zero too

@mohamademirhareez4651

Жыл бұрын

@@Baru_boy i dont think they will, cuz rn im pretty sure alpha0 aint even the second or third best engine its leela 2nd now and not sure ab 3rd

@ronalddoctor8622

Жыл бұрын

Coward alpha 0

@volcanoraider9139

Жыл бұрын

@@mohamademirhareez4651 damn

Anyone who has a problem with your dog being in a video is the guy who the friend group secretly starts another group chat just to exclude.

If this game had been submitted for Guess The Elo, what would Levy's guess had been? 😂

@tejasshah7691

Жыл бұрын

400

@vholes2803

Жыл бұрын

16660

@Lordmewtwo151

Жыл бұрын

I'm thinking either 2700. I don't see any guess from 1000-2700 that would make any remote amount of sense.

@themind1401

Жыл бұрын

600 elo definitely

@badereric

Жыл бұрын

@@Lordmewtwo151 I don't think any two 2700+ players are ever playing this

This game was like a how to lose at chess episode except the 400s were accidentally playing brilliant moves

@yessir6427

Жыл бұрын

grow a brain pls

@benslater3588

Жыл бұрын

@@yessir6427 bro what

Stockfish: *does anything* Levi: *brain orgaam*

Came for stockfish, stayed for the doggo

The rook on h8 literally survived the entire game.

@benjaminoechsli1941

Жыл бұрын

"If I don't _move,_ they can't see me!"

@U20E0

Жыл бұрын

@@benjaminoechsli1941 says the tower standing on a battlefield

I remember when Leela was 1600 and I almost won a game against her. Later when Leela was around 2700 I really hoped for Magnus vs Leela game, human versus artificial intelligence, but sadly such a match never happened.

@BrennenChua

Жыл бұрын

There was a Leela vs penguin match though which you might find interesting.

@Litwinel

Жыл бұрын

@@BrennenChua yeah, that bullet match was exciting, I believe i even watched part of if live. But you know, I really wanted kind of Kasparov vs Deep Blue V2 match. Classical match. Deep positional thinking, who could win, a human, or a machine that thinks more like a human. But now it's far too late. Maybe another chance will emerge if some new revolution in technology happens and it will be used to create even more different chess AI.

@rickrick5041

Жыл бұрын

Magnus coward

@Greatermaxim

Жыл бұрын

You have me. I drew against Stockfish at its highest level. I was the first player in a QP game. I do not think anyone can win against it though a draw is not a loss.

@nishima-kun583

Жыл бұрын

@@Greatermaxim i drew out komodo dragon

levy: starts recording benji: peace was never an option

Levy: "What they do is make the chess engines perverted.." Me: *takes out pen and notepad* Levy: "...Not in that way." Me: *puts away*

Damn. Hans is playing really well

@truongthaiucduong2807

Жыл бұрын

the comment speaks for itself :))

The most insane part about the rook that was hanging for so many moves is that it lived until the end of the game.

Bro the rook on f3 survived the whole game it was the last piece

@Hanqy

Жыл бұрын

And the way it surrendered on the corner the board like… “fuck it, my comrades are all dead and my king is surrounded, i’m just gonna flee from the battlefield” 😂

That was a pretty cool game, no question. I like to watch engines play. What amazes me about engine play is that we can figure out why they moved where they moved after the fact, but we can't figure it out before hand.

We want to see more of stockfish games from you levy

@tommydiefritte

Жыл бұрын

It's probably nothing

Stockfish playing for Norway is so great

@vowtekohnsurvateeve7689

Жыл бұрын

One of its inventor is from Norway

@vowtekohnsurvateeve7689

Жыл бұрын

and its a also fitting because the best player is from Norway too

@deinauge7894

Жыл бұрын

and stockfish was a relevant part of norwegian export once

@mooncalf_4534

Жыл бұрын

@@vowtekohnsurvateeve7689 I'm not from Norway

3:14 is easily the best part of this video

@AngelicHalo1

11 ай бұрын

The dog is famous now

he could have easily disguised this game as being played by two 300s and we would still believe it

Have someone realized the last piece of LCZero was the Rook that was hanging the whole game? Absolutely hilarious 😂

Came for chess, stayed for dog

@alvar6444

Жыл бұрын

Came for dog

Never apologize for Benji! More Benji!

@mikeluque6527

Жыл бұрын

Also, great Twitter reference

The pup was a welcome part of the video so cute

Stockfish just playing with Leela at the end there, love it.

@idontknowwhattowritehere.8361

Жыл бұрын

Leela got stocked by it's fish

@jarirepo1172

Жыл бұрын

And Leela resigning at move 69. :D

@tristanyokom1542

Жыл бұрын

Revenge for how much of a troll Leela is when given the chance

I appreciate you not cutting any part of the dog interaction. We are so used to videos being altered to show only the best and seeing that whole section felt really nice for a change!

Well it's clear that if Stockfish didn't senselessly give up the pawn in the endgame the game would not have ended on move 69 which would have been an L for everyone.

Ah yes, a chess game played on a knife edge

You know you are winning when the bar shows up for you even before the opening.

@pineapplelollipop1074

Жыл бұрын

Nice name

As long as you remain most focused on the chess, I actually really enjoy the occasional cameo of your family and home life. It lets us see Levy the person, and that's really cool

You don't give Stockfish honorary titles, Stockfish gives you honorary titles.

Joined for the chess, stayed because of the dog

3:02 Damn, only a couple moves into the game and we already have a zwischenzug.

Oh my. Next time Benji appears in a KZread video, he will be bigger than Levy!

One of the most amazing games I've ever seen. Shows what happens when the world's two greatest chess players ever face off.

Levy I’ll be totally honest, even ignoring your chess skill, you genuinely are just an amazing teacher. You’re just such a sociable guy, and I feel like you could talk about anything, no matter how boring, and be enticed by it. That’s true skill telling from my attention span lol.

Love when Benji comes through

I like how you break down games, but I also like seeing Levy, the human being, living life.

@theblinkingbrownie4654

Жыл бұрын

Clearly you skip the starts of the videos if you think levi is human

@greatmusic142

Жыл бұрын

@@theblinkingbrownie4654 Detroit becomes human reference? the blinking lights on the side of his head indicating he might a robot that turned deviant??

Benji is precious

How this guy can even make a robot battle so interesting?

That black rook which was open to take so many times.. survived till the end with his king--"Legendary Rook"

Imagine Tal playing in this computer era.. it would be amazing to see it working with them

I didn't see this TCEC game live, and it somehow flew under my radar, so thanks for covering it, Levy! Utterly bonkers. Worth mentioning that when Stockfish was forced to play black from the same starting position, Leela was able to win as well in a more straightforward game, with a very AlphaZero-style early pawn push to h6.

I love how during your chess explanation you give us little bits and pieces of what's going in your life, I enjoy it a lot and your doggo is adorable.

When you realize stockfish isn’t actually a fish…

Stockfish is so good that he starts with +0.6 ...I'm dieing

Great game that manages to be a 360 and 3600 elo game at the same time.

I expected a fish, got a dog. Not complaining.

Stockfish solved chess like levy solved the youtube algorithm

I completely support the puppy break in the video 🐕

The dog clearly thought Mittens was playing...

Love how the rook which was hanging half of the game is the only black piece that survived until the end

Also I like the authenticity of your vids. You don’t edit out any parts that aren’t perfect & just be you. Respect💪.

This feels like they are playing a few moves in the future and are just constantly preparing

@emilyscloset2648

Жыл бұрын

reminds me of the Edward vs Alice in Twilight. Alice can see the future to see what Edward plays. Edward can read Alice's mind to know what she is going to play

you know a game is wild when the player who is up on material is losing.

gotta love stockfish awarding stockfish a good evaluation

I love engine videos. Makes me realize how little we understand about chess and that’s a surprisingly great feeling.

@jakovcu

Жыл бұрын

For me that is also scary in a way

I'm doing well levy! Keep up the amazing content! GTE and engine videos are my favorite type of content you make, and yes, Benji made it more entertaining:)

thank you for the lovely videos. these engine matches are fascinating and so much fun to watch! you do such a great job being entertaining and interesting. the dog cameos brought a smile to my face too :)

few videos make me laugh in the first 10 seconds, but you sir have done it again

I forgot how big Benji got, and burst out laughing when Levy had trouble lifting him up

Interestingly enough, since Benji was the costar of this episode, we just adopted an old man dog yesterday and he was my copilot watching this episode.

This game is beautiful because it shows how engines play without emotions. It only plays for best optimal play.

I’m doing good! I just finished a Discrete Math exam, and I think I did good on all the problems except the last, which counted for three points unfortunately. I’m about to go to a Data Structures lab, and I have an online Spanish exam due by midnight. It’s the end of the semester so teachers have to get their assignments in I didn’t mind the dog either

@soupdev3309

Жыл бұрын

?

@tomasbeltran04050

Жыл бұрын

qed

@kindlin

Жыл бұрын

@@soupdev3309 Last 10 seconds of the video.

@reflectivish385

Жыл бұрын

Bro who asked

@lancelee338

Жыл бұрын

@@reflectivish385 22:06 Mr. Gotham Chess did

Levy talking about his dog shows how good person he is

Stockfish is great but Benji is way too cute to overlook. Wish benji all the health

Benji just chilling/worrying in the background🤣😀and then when the circus starts just worries even more!!

I absolutely love how there is an eval bar when stockfish is playing

Leela didn't resign on move 69. It was because TSEC uses Tablebases and there were 6 pieces left and it is won for white, giving white the win.

I like that you just embraced the chaos. Much better than stressing about it

We all love to see 3000+ engines fight each other We all laugh when they make a weird looking move and deem it good for them

Your engine videos are the best. It would be awesome to see you feature more TCEC superfinal games with animated commentary

Came for the chess, stayed for the dog.

Actually loved Benji's moves

These past few videos from you are like coming out of a gold mine. GTE and analyzing one of stock fish's games 🥰

>Dog: *opens door* >Levy: "Must have been the wind"

We really need to see how much odds are needed for Magnus to defeat the newest version of Stockfish.

@skinnybonesjonestheallseei74

Жыл бұрын

Rook

@zex_1v1lol13

Жыл бұрын

@@skinnybonesjonestheallseei74 nah two rooks

@mismis3153

Жыл бұрын

Stockfish 14 won against komodo 3200 a knight down, for reference

@badereric

Жыл бұрын

@@mismis3153 wtf? Link pls?

8 minutes into the video and levy hasen't changed the title yet. Impressive stuff!

Sacing the last pawn shut the king out from the other side of the board. Look where the rook went and stayed.

i love the dog and his affection

This video is legendary man. I laughed so much in the portions, when Levy just makes random sounds, yes I am a child. Love the content, keep it up

Those 22 mins flew by.. I was spellbound by doggy cuteness and engine sorcery. 👍 Please sir, can I have some more?

Thank you for the dog intermission I needed that before this game

The engines engaged in a mild amount of tomfollery

kinda wish the rook that was hanging for half the game would be the last piece remaining for black but just wasn't the case...

Stockfish speaks for itself

"I thought it was just the wind." Levy would be perfect as a guard in stealth video games.

Thats my opening prep! Im so glad they played this.