I love how organized you are. I see other builders just throw screws and parts on their dirty, cluttered workbench during the teardown. I often wonder if they get it put back 100% the same. You are meticulous and its a pleasure to watch. Great job

I sold my MS261 once I ported my MS241. FANTASTIC little saw!

@brettblack7049

Жыл бұрын

To bad they don't handle like a husky, at least they are light so it's not as big of a deal. Hope you're doing well.

@teammouse

Жыл бұрын

Oh and why didn’t you port the 261 instead i heard they were on overal better bang for buck i own a 240 myself and sometimes i think a 260 would be better chainsaw for this job

@jongray3797

Жыл бұрын

Thinking about doing the exact same thing myself…

@brettblack7049

Жыл бұрын

@@teammouse you obviously dont know who you're talking to, I'm sure his 261 was ported lol. The 241 is light with the 3005 mount bar, and the picco chain cuts well, a 261 is a nice saw but substantially heavier. I've personally had many of both, unfortunately I don't have a 241 right now, but I do still have a ported 261 :).

@SNELLERIZED

Жыл бұрын

@@teammouse It was ported, and a very strong one at that.

I heard so many great reports about the MS-241, after they were discontinued I searched every Stihl dealer within a 200km area and found 2… bought them both and did a simple muffler mod to one and can’t believe how much it completely woke it up after breakin. I run 15” cannnon superminis on Narrow Kerf .325 chains. Cuts like butter and superior over standard .325 bar and chain

@jbbolts

Жыл бұрын

were they based on the 261 platform?

@PurpleNovember

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@jbboltsThey’re split cases like pro saws but a smaller chassis than the 261, although not by much.

@jbbolts

10 ай бұрын

@@PurpleNovember ok thanks... theres one for sale locally would you know the weight difference and cc by any chance?

@PurpleNovember

10 ай бұрын

@@jbbolts 241 is around 41cc and the 261 is 50cc. The weight difference in the dry power heads is 0.9lbs, 10.8lbs to 9.9lbs. Those numbers change significantly with bar and chain, and full tanks. The 241 takes the small 3005 mount and 261 takes the medium 3003 mount, so there’s a big difference in weight and maneuverability. I think with a 20” .325” bar on the 261 and a 16” bar on the 241, the weight difference was a little over 3lbs or a little under 4lbs. I’m thoroughly impressed with the 241, especially with the 20” small mount .325 bar and chain. I’m running full skip chisel now for an experiment but it runs full comp chisel no problem, haven’t tried semi or chamfer chisel yet. I would definitely buy another if the opportunity presents itself.

Joe I just wanted to say: I FINALLY understand porting after this video. You have no idea how much confusion this cleared up for me. Thanks a lot

@thomaslindroos1667

Жыл бұрын

Anyone who thinks they understand porting, clearly dont understand porting

Thx man ;). A few months ago I asked you for a Video of porting the 241. I really Like this little beast 😏

I found a new 241 after searching dealers nationwide 2 years ago. I had heard good things and I had a 261. I love my 241. I will grab it over my 261 everyday. Well, that was until I got the 261 ported. Now I try and share limbing duties equal. Tempted to port the 241. Nice video. Thanks

I have one and love it would love to be able to get my hands on another new one. Great job Joe.

Love love love LOVE the MS241. Overshadowed by the newer 261's when they lost a little weight because of the numbers - on paper. But in the hand, the 241 and 261 are two different saws. the smaller bar mount and lighter bars make a big difference when handling the MS241. The 261 has more grunt, but definitely feels "bigger".

I have a 16 on mine. muffler modded it. I have looked for more 241s. Got mine used and it wasn't taken care of. Whomever had it before me beat it. I sure hope this build kicks butt. I have been waiting for this.

Nice video Joe. I have a ported 241 and love it. With Stihl lightweight 16” picco B/C it weighs 12 lb. 8 oz. (full tanks). That is REALLY light! The modern features are also a huge plus.

I have an MS 241c and i love it 🙂 Lighweight ond good power ...

Gettin close to that 10k mark buddy. Great videos! It would be cool to see you port and machine a 372 or something common with long blowdown dyno it and then raise the transfers way up to 18 and see what the power curves look like.

Incredible gains, nice work Joe! I wish I could find a job doing what you do. I love this stuff!

@PurpleNovember

10 ай бұрын

It’s not a job that’s found, it’s a job that’s made.

You hit the nail on the head, the price difference to the 261 is so small it’s a no brainier to get the bigger saw for less than 500g extra weight.

Very nice lil saw sir good job

Some day I’m going to get a ported echo 361! Not sure why because I already have two great 355Ts but they just make me want the rear handle version when on the ground. Appreciate your content 👍🏼

Respectable gains for sure. Bet that would do a nice job running an 18"× 3/8 picco setup.

Joe you are like the mad scientist of power saws. Your work is awesome & I admire your knowledge. You will be doing some stuff with Morgan & Billy. Can't wait to see. I'm a husky guy. Got a 345 & a 55 for short bars. Then of course our bigger saws. 262, 365 special, 394 & a cpl of 288's. Be good & carry on. Bye the way you sound a lot like an actor from before my time. And I'm 71. W. C. Fields. Look him up. You'll understand.. Later.

One of my favorite stihl saws is the 024 n 026 been running a pair of 024 avs and a super with muffler mod since mid 80's 13" to 18" bars 026 pro 20" light weight n fast cutting for bigger wood 038 magnum workhorse

That's great for 40cc sweet job on it it

@dynojoemods2764

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Beautiful Grinding and machine work. (I'm only a little past half way thru)

I've been trying to fix a Husqvarna 041, it's an old 40cc saw and it's not a professional saw, but I like it for me. Also it can't just be me, but I just love the sound of the 40cc range saws, they sound so good.

Im sitting here watching this and thinking to myself. If you was to put a pipe on the exhaust side of the jug with a vacuum on it and install a MAF sensor in it. You can get your flow numbers and you could measure velocity. So then when you do port work you can compare the gains if any. Gale banks does this with a flow bench to test intake systems.

@PurpleNovember

10 ай бұрын

Same thing can be done with a manometer and a shop vac. The manometer can be made with a ruler and some clear vinyl tubing with dyed water in it. Works good for comparisons.

For cleaning I use a paint brush, tooth brush, a plastic scraper and diesel fuel.

Great build! I love my Dolmar 421 in that class. With an easy muffler mod this thing performs well. I don’t know that porting would do it any measurable favors. The Dolmars always seemed hot right out of the box.

i spend quiet some time with this saw, cutting logging trails, wonderfull little saw, for running a 15" bar

Am I the only one seriously impressed with the stock numbers for a 40cc saw? It looks to me to be putting out 50cc numbers. A stock Husqvarna 55 Rancher is 3.4hp. Both Stihl and Husky's 45cc "firewood" saws put out 3hp, at least the 025 and 345 that I own did stock. Is that mostly due to the closed port of the 241 vs the open ports on the 345 and 0250? Joe's porting work means it blows the door's off all the stock 50cc class including Stihls' own 261 at 4hp even. I know the new 5 series from Husqvarna are leaving much less on the table than they did in the past but that's where you have to look to find any competition with this ported 241. That's one impressive 40cc saw ported or not. As a 55 year old living on a farm and heating with wood (around 6 cords a year) all my life, weight has become my biggest concern. I'm just finishing up on a 345 to 350 conversion I've been working on and am anxious to see what kind of power I can get out of it. It will be competing with my Stihl ms211 to see which one I reach for when it's time to go to work. The 211 only has a muffler mod but boy was that muffler mod beneficial. As I was still breaking the 211 in it felt to me like it didn't really need a muffler mod. Boy was I wrong. It is probably the biggest improvement I've ever seen from a simple muffler mod. It got rid of the "scream/bog, scream/bog" tendency of the stock 211. It was really hard to find the sweet spot where it liked to cut. It really wasn't usable as far as I'm concerned. I'm passionate about this hobby and never get nowhere near enough cut time with any my saws. The stock 211 just wasn't any fun to use before the MM. Anyway, I'll stop my yapping and go back to this 350 I'm almost ready to fire up for the first time. As always, I love all of the videos Dyno Joe puts out and I seriously appreciate the time and effort he puts in to these videos. No One else is doing what he is and I believe his sub numbers will rise exponentially as it picks up a head of steam and more people will discover this excellent channel.

Great channel man. Keep up the good work! Thanks

Damn fine results. It's a shame it was such a short run for the 241's

I have a 024, good saw for light work.

I like the 40cc saws for 8" trees and smaller. Anything above that I prefer my 60cc saws. I dont really feel a need for a 50cc saw but I have one. Cheers

Love my 241

I like high pressure air for cleaning. Finish with carb cleaner

Nice gain up high!!

Close to 4.5HP is kinda impressive, from 40cc!

@DavidBergman1776

Жыл бұрын

No kidding! A stock 372 has 5.4 hp. It's the torque that makes the difference. Still, this saw is impressive nonetheless. (and we also know what ported 372´s run like haha)

Love the small saw build! What does a similar “work” build do to the more common MS250 or 251’s?

When I bought my HQ 55 I wanted a saw that could do it all. Not too big not too little.

I have a 241. I bought it used. They were only $50 less than a 261 so that probably hurt sales. The are a nice small and light saw. I used mine 2 weeks ago to limb a pine. My dad was using his 261. The 261 revs up so much faster than a 241. The 261 sounds so much more sporty. Weren't they sold as 3hp? Nice numbers ported. You got 60cc power out of a 40cc saw. It would be cool if you did an overlay of the ported 241 and then a stock 60cc to see how they compare.

Thank s!

husky 242xp and 246 and ms260 are my go toos almost got a 241 i snoozed then they got discontinued

Great build, now to do your 4310. These small pro saws cost nearly as much to manufacture as their larger siblings, not much margin for manufacturers and dealers at the price point that they would sell well in the US. More profit in a 271 and only 2.5lbs of extra plastic to lug around.

@christopherlehman4045

Жыл бұрын

They didn’t sell well that’s why the usa doesn’t get them anymore. Local dealership had one for 3 years before they got rid of it, most people just spent a little extra on the 261

Nice job Joe, can you explain on another video how you you the ring to get your marks for porting, I have 021, 027, and 029 which I’m going big bore kit to make it 039 lol I like smaller saws for cleaning trails and small fire wood but i have bigger saws too like 372XP and 288XP none of my saws are ported just muffler mods and tuned maybe one day I’ll try porting one thanks for what you do and sharing it

@christopherlehman4045

Жыл бұрын

021 and 025? Or do you have an ms 270? The 029 I’d leave an 029 unless your going oem 039 cylinder and piston which will be expensive. Otherwise it’s likely the stock 029 cylinder with new piston and rings will out perform the 039 aftermarket stuff.

@joutdoorsmen23

Жыл бұрын

@@christopherlehman4045 sorry 025 not 027 my bad I have 170 too I have two 029 one is not running so I got a aftermarket top end to try my hand at cleaning up the intake and exhaust port to see how I do before I try porting

@PurpleNovember

10 ай бұрын

@@christopherlehman4045It’s not “likely”, it flat out does! Been there done that and working on trying to get some power back out of it. The 029 belonged to my dad so I decided upgrade the engine when the old one was getting tired. I bought the short block from Bailey’s. I’m still working on upgrading.

These saws are hard to find used. I’ve been looking for one to compliment my fleet. I have a 501P now, so I guess that niche is technically filled.

Nice work Joe. Assuming you removed the limiters on the carb? Did that have the aluminum ones? They can be a pain to remove. I didn’t buy one just because the price. I really like my modded MS250’s with a 14” lp bar and chain setup. My go to for tops and limbs

@dynojoemods2764

Жыл бұрын

This is the autotune carb. No limiters

What brand is that T handle nut driver ? I'm having trouble finding one that will fit inside the air horn of the carb to remove the nuts ....

@dynojoemods2764

Жыл бұрын

That one is part of the tool kit that comes with the neotec saws. I will look for a part number, but I don't think it has any.

I use a mortar tub, paint brush, and gas.

Mate i love my 241cm. They sold well here in Australia. Would love to send you mine for a port job if you are interested.

@dynojoemods2764

2 ай бұрын

Would definitely be interested. Check out the website www.worksaws.com and send me an email

Could you gain anything if you give it some more ignition with a filed woodruff key?

@PurpleNovember

10 ай бұрын

I think M-Tronics makes that adjustment. Not totally sure though.

This is simply beyond my capabilities but interesting nonetheless. Hopefully I'll find a chainsaw geek friend one day to help me mod my saws. 😉

Am I the only one that uses the dishwasher to clean chainsaw parts when no one is looking?

@troy3052

Жыл бұрын

Lol nope

@larryreno8293

Жыл бұрын

Nope, but you’re the only person ducking your wife swing at your head with a frying pan now that she knows wtf happened to the dishwasher! Lol

👍

For those who have experience with this saw. What is your chain preference, 3/8 P/LP, or .325?

@dynojoemods2764

Жыл бұрын

The one we have is setup 14" 3/8p

💪😁👍

What does it weigh??

Is there may any possibility to port my 241 ? Could send you parts …. Good work . Greetings from Germany

What was the intake timing after the base gasket delete?

@dynojoemods2764

Жыл бұрын

Right at 70, I do believe

For me it wasn't the cost as much as the weight. It wasn't that much different than the 261 to make it irresistible. Don't get me wrong, I'd buy one if I found a nice one. Just haven't seen one in my area

@PurpleNovember

10 ай бұрын

Same here until I had two of them side by side. The empty power head weight numbers are deceiving when it comes to actually running them with full tanks with a bar and chain installed. How significant the weight difference is, between the two, seems to have a lot to do with how the saw is being used. Old injuries play a part too. Lol

Can you get that much gain out of a 440 Husky strato?

@dynojoemods2764

Жыл бұрын

I think the husky 440 would be a bit behind this one.

46cc poulan (2900) runs really good

Whoever is getting that saw is one lucky sob!

I have a 241. XS Ported. Its my favorite saw by far. I chose it because of back problems and every little bit of weight reduction matters. It would be interesting to see how it performs against a Husqvarna 543XP and that Echo 4310SX you got from overseas considering they are all 43cc saws.

Put the 261 pipe on it just to see

Too bad Joe didn’t show how he completely hogged the intake out on the cylinder,

@dynojoemods2764

Жыл бұрын

Didn't touch the intake, other than add some texture.

@FYMM69

Жыл бұрын

My apologies brother. I realized that Afterwards haha.

241c built right are devastating lil saws. With a 16” bar and a sharp picco chain they zip thru the smaller timber very very quickly … sip fuel too if ya don’t “gut da stratos”

Definitely nice one but that 4310sx is killing any other 40cc class chainsaw IMHO

40cc seems like a waste of money for the gains you get with 50cc. Just my opinion.

@fabzacres-blackcat

Жыл бұрын

Lighter weight and when built will annihilate the stock 261c. if ya build the 261c equally it will cut faster especially in bigger wood. 241c sips gas too , even when built - unless you gut the stratos that is ! Then you get a mosquito fogger and mileage goes in the toilet vs powa ya gain

@oldcodger1929

Жыл бұрын

@@fabzacres-blackcat well then there you go. That's why I don't like commenting on youtube opinions are like sphincters every one has one and they're all right. Have a great day and God bless.

@fabzacres-blackcat

Жыл бұрын

@@oldcodger1929 word … I’m blessed to have both saws and wouldn’t get rid of either one of em 😂

G'day DJ, that model wasn't available in Australia for some reason only the mS231 and the mS251 I always try to buy the highest power to weight saw in the class I need but I mistakenly got a mS291 a few years ago and then found out the mS261 has more output ! I got Kevin @MrHangerone on you tube to port it for me its a little ripper now. I like to put petrol in one of those pump up pressure sprayers to wash parts its a lot cheaper than buying pressure packs of carby clean and slightly better for the environment all the best 👍.