Steven Seagal vs Olympic Boxer! / What people don't Understand about this Master! @Tony_Jeffries
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In this video, I address comments that Olympic Bronze medalist boxer Tony Jeffries says about Steven Seagal and Aikido!
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My man, if you win a bronze medal at the Olympics you have beating somebody. Those guys are elite athletes. As far the the Aikido goes. I think you are better served with boxing in the real world. I do agree however, that one should not disrespect another style, because of lack of understanding.
@robertschoelerman7496
24 күн бұрын
But he ain't a pro no where on the level of a pro martial artist
@Andylismore76
24 күн бұрын
@@robertschoelerman7496 aye just an olympian...nothing special..😜🤣🤣
@TheTrollHunter2024
15 күн бұрын
@@robertschoelerman7496you do know a lot of the great pro boxers came from the Olympics? As much as I'm not a fan of the individual I'm about to mention, but Deontay Wilder was a bronze medalist as well and could definitely destroy most people.
@iDrum90
7 күн бұрын
@@robertschoelerman7496Steven isn’t a real pro martial artists and NO martial artist that I’ve followed ever legitimately acknowledge him as one
I can see where people have questions about this demonstration as they do most times when seeing them. AND lets face it,Seagal has a bad image with the general public. AND by that i mean arrogant, smug, his image as in overweight "people dont take us fluffy guys serious if we have some weight on us" lol..AND Aikido has a bad rap in not being effective and looking quite comical "for lack of better words". I have given my thoughts and opinions on Seagal but over the months im starting to at least accept the guy and appreciate his contribution to the movie world and marital arts scene. WHY? Mostly because of your channel David. AND another note, have you noticed how every division of hand to hand combat has their opinions on all other forms of hand to hand combat? They all seem to look down on oneanother and make fun of each type of fighting skill. How about everyone work together and support oneanother? Thanks for the video and your help in opening up peoples minds to Seagal and Aikido..
Do people really think these guys are gonna break their teeth just for the sake of showing that "this is LeGiT"? It's a demonstration, do people know what that means? Yes they do, but still they keep hating. I mean, if you think Aikido is bad and it's for you that is completely fine. But I guess trashing on Aikido and Seagal is good for the algorithm.
@jamiemccutcheon8302
26 күн бұрын
Get three top level aikido practitioners and tony in a room Tony is walking out leaving three bullshido experts ready for hospital
@welcometothemovies9157
20 күн бұрын
@jamiemccutcheon8302 you do know that Seagal is not training him in boxing, right? He's giving him some pointers and advice for the fight. Viking is actually at a boxing fight camp with a boxing trainer. Back in early 70s Ali was friends with a karateka and asked for advice to help his punches get faster. So it's not that weird that someone outside of boxing to help. Yes he's mostly aikido but he did take karate in his past so he knows how to punch and kick. No he didn't get taught by Mas Oyama lol
@Durante_di_Alighiero
14 күн бұрын
@@jamiemccutcheon8302 Nah, one sumiotoshi or aikitoshi and he's down on the ground and the other guys are stomping him on his head.
@jamiemccutcheon8302
14 күн бұрын
@@Durante_di_Alighiero I think your as delusional as David I think you are mistaken Aikido for a practical martial art which it is not
@Durante_di_Alighiero
14 күн бұрын
@@jamiemccutcheon8302 Yeah it's quite obvious you don't know what the hell you are talking about 🤣. Like I said one of those guys does either a sumiotoshi or an aikiotoshi and the boxer is on the ground while they are stomping his head.
Chuck Norris also used some aikido in certain fight scenes ,even before Seagal came on the scene He also apllied BJJ techniques in Walker Texas Ranger in the 90's before the mainstream knew what it was
@EltonBrasilTV
26 күн бұрын
In which movie please?
@tomdewyn5689
25 күн бұрын
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@tomdewyn5689
25 күн бұрын
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@1_Bad_Z
19 күн бұрын
There are shared techniques. We have used some Aikido wrist locks in Kung Fu.
@EltonBrasilTV
18 күн бұрын
@@1_Bad_Z ok, but in what movie?
He's not a boxing coach lol how we gonna make like he is?
@VikingSamurai
26 күн бұрын
Watch the video, my main coach is Phil Paolina
@robertschoelerman7496
24 күн бұрын
@@VikingSamurai Viking u are so right people talk to talk mad respect my man
You're living the life enjoy the moment enjoy the blessing from God and Christ you're encountering Legends you have stories to tell the traveling the world you're moving forward always when confronted with an obstacle look for the way to win and nothing else remember a human being is a human being mistakes can easily be made and that's when opportunity strikes be clever be resourceful all the best Keep on keepin on 👊
When I interview you VS, hopefully you or the great Sensei Seagal can teach me the aikido moves that Seagal used to beat big, bad Penn in Under Siege 2 where Penn tries to cut Seagal with the butcher knife & Seagal who was unarmed moves in a circle, waving his hands until Seagal found the opening to grab his wrist & flipping Penn in the kitchen resulting in Penn dropping the knife & Seagal going to the rear & snapping his neck. It seems Seagal moving in a circle & waving his hands was a way to distract Penn from being able to cut Seagal & I'd love to learn that aspect of aikido from the great Seagal or you if he has imparted & taught you that set of aikido moves.
What people dont understand about Seagal is its not just Aikido that he does. Its a mix of everything he has learned to formed his own style with it. Aikido is an excellent technique if you know what you're doing. It takes alot of skill and practice to master it though
@jamiemccutcheon8302
27 күн бұрын
Who's he fought and beaten?
@perceivedvelocity9914
26 күн бұрын
There are effective martial arts and there are fantasy martial arts. Seagal is the grand master of a pretend martial art. He has spent his entire life talking S about other people's abilities but he has never fought anyone. If Seagal actually publicly fought another person he would be exposed.
@guts7958
23 күн бұрын
@jamiemccutcheon8302 if you count movie fights, alot 😅
@1_Bad_Z
19 күн бұрын
Along with sword, and stick fighting. Also another thing that doesn't get mentioned that often; on the street, when you don't know what the other guy knows; you could be in trouble.
Hey David. Big fan of your channel and its content, especially the Stallone material. While I'm not the biggest fan of Seagal, there's no denying the impact he had on aikido in film and with the martial arts style in general. Keep up the great work and good luck against Mosley. Also, I was wondering what martial arts styles you've trained in in the past. You obviously have some boxing training and some good kicking prowess based off of Van Damme.
@VikingSamurai
27 күн бұрын
Thanks man... formal training in TaeKwonDo, Kenpo Karate, Krav Maga and Tang Soo Do...lot of Boxing lately, that will be the main focus of course, full camp starts next week and I'll be unrecognizable by Sept 28th as far as where my boxing will be level wise!
Great point about Aikido building situational awareness. I only did Aikido for about 3 and a half years, but it developed my situational awareness better than any other art I've studied. I did boxing, Muay Thai, wrestling, and several Chinese martial arts. They're all really great arts with a lot to offer, but Aikido is unique if it is trained correctly. Try doing lots of randori with multiple attackers coming at you and you'll understand.
I hope you share footage of your training with seagal after your fight in September. Also, I hope the Sugar Shane Mosley fight has better footage. Celebrity boxing didn't record your first fight.
@VikingSamurai
27 күн бұрын
It'll be on PPV, Triller, great footage!
Seagal is the world master of Bullshido.
@michaelmyers3709
26 күн бұрын
Original
@42VS42
26 күн бұрын
@@michaelmyers3709 Wow, I didn't realize he was the first one! Anyway, it's stunning that he made the switch to Stoogitsu.
@michaelmyers3709
26 күн бұрын
What
@42VS42
26 күн бұрын
@@michaelmyers3709 Stoogitsu, the art of being a stooge.
@michaelmyers3709
26 күн бұрын
Which one
Wish you all the best for your fight!
I don't really understand why Steven Seagal would be helpful in training for a boxing match, but hopefully it is. I've never met Seagal, or seen do anything that want either a demo or in a movie, so I don't know what he could actually do in a real situation. I don't understand the way so many people seen to have a visceral hated of the man, though, and the constant slamming of him is getting tedious. If someone thinks they could beat him in a fight and prove he can't do what he claims, then do it. Go challenge the guy, or you're just as full of BS as you claim he is.
@varanid9
26 күн бұрын
Segal can come across as arrogant (and often IS) and this tends to trigger beta males. Look at all the delusional hate Donald Trump gets just for being successful and telling it like it is. Once someone mobilizes the herd, they march mindlessly in unison, even if it's over a cliff. On the other hand, there have been some great Steven Segal jokes.......
@robertschoelerman7496
24 күн бұрын
Martial arts is universal it translates every where
Awesome that you train with Seagal in Russia. His movies are very entertaining and he shows great skill, next level Aikido really. Hey, ask him what he thinks about Ninjutsu when you can and make a video about it. For me, Ninjutsu is basically Aikido/JiuJitsu/Hapkido mixed with Striking, eg. Karate/Tang So Do. + other fun stuff.
I like the concepts of aikido (not done it myself) and I agree with your statement and probably would add that it’s probably not the first martial art someone should start with. having an understanding of range, pace, timing and composure, I could see training in Aikido having useful tools used in the right way. It’s on my bucket list anyway, probably as I get older. Look forward to seeing you train with Seagal!
You really gonna train with Seagal? Nice! Hope you get some footage 👍🏻
@VikingSamurai
27 күн бұрын
It'll be documented
@herbojinator7706
26 күн бұрын
When I get to interview you VS, you or Seagal should teach me how he beat Penn in Under Siege 2 where as Penn tried to cut Seagal with the butcher knife, Seagal was able to quickly move in a circle, waving his hands, until he was able to find the opening in grabbing Penn's wrist & throwing him across the kitchen & finally snapping his neck. It seems that Seagal moving in a circle & waving his hands was to distract Penn until Seagal could find the opening to grab his wrist & do a throw. I'd love to learn that aspect of aikido from the great Seagal or you!
Aikido is similar in a way, to Tai Chi as in you don't necessarily use it in and of itself as a fighting art, it's rather an addition to other fighting arts. Aikido used in sword fighting or for law enforcement takedowns is great, but practitioners of it often know other stuff. Haters just show Aikido demonstrations and act like an Aikido practitioner will get their ass kicked, and they base it all on Aikido demonstrations. Sort of shallow minded.
I do like the interviews on your channel. But is this a publicly stunt?
@perceivedvelocity9914
26 күн бұрын
It feels like that to me.
@VikingSamurai
26 күн бұрын
No, I'm legitimately going to train with Seagal and fight Shane Mosley
Martial arts and boxing are so much different. I agree with you that improves situational awareness!
I would not seek out an Aikido Black Belt for help with training for an upcoming Boxing fight. But, there shouldn't be any problem with "hanging out" with Steven and pursuing a potentially closer relationship with another "Action Star" in the movie business.
Seagal isn't a perfect person and neither is anyone else, all that matters is what je brings to the martial arts world.
This is best channel. I just need more Frank Dux! 80s heroes forever!
Steven Seagal's version of Aikido is called dynamic Aikido which combines it with Karate strikes, Wing Chun techniques etc.. Not sure where the hate comes from.
@jamiemccutcheon8302
25 күн бұрын
@@AceeSoul you ever seen seagal in a real fight?
@AceeSoul
25 күн бұрын
@jamiemccutcheon8302 No, but you don't survive in Japan teaching their art as a foreigner if you don't know what you're doing. People who knew him in the early days say when he took over that dojo back in the day, people came and challenged him for the first couple months and he put them all down.
@jamiemccutcheon8302
25 күн бұрын
@@AceeSoul unfortunately even bean a expert in the bullshido martial art won't do anything for you in a street fight people Training this art would be better spending time learning Judo
@brentwithey4241
24 күн бұрын
Seagal would get cleaned up
@jamiemccutcheon8302
24 күн бұрын
@@brentwithey4241 absolutely
People really don't understand Aikido, yet they publicly trash it. And they dont know the difference between a martial artist and a fighter. And they dont understand the diffrence between fights with rules and fights without.
@varanid9
27 күн бұрын
Well, to be fair, most of the Segal trashing comes from ignorant YT commenters going along with the rest of the herd. NOOBs signing up for the local MMA class are just like all the strip mall Karate nerds loudly opining about combat as if they are now knowledgeable and experienced because they can parrot what their instructors told them. Most accomplished pro fighters rarely if ever dis the so-called "traditional" arts.
@brentwithey4241
24 күн бұрын
The reason people trash Sagal is he trashes real martial artists like he would wipe the floor with them, he has stated van dame wouldn't match him Lundgreon couldn't fight him etc these are proven fighters.
@varanid9
24 күн бұрын
@@brentwithey4241 Like I said, ignorant YT commenters going along with the herd. You proved my point. Nobody with a brain cares what he said FORTY YEARS AGO.
@robertschoelerman7496
24 күн бұрын
What u do in a demonstration in a controlled environment is not exactly what u do in real world fighting all martial arts demonstration s and training are in a controlled environment where every one is on the same page so no one gets hurt haters don't have under stand that because they have never done it or lived it trolling is what they are good at
Its embarrassing at this point with vikings praise of segal constantly.
@Elderpredator
21 күн бұрын
Stallone has commented that it was clear to him that Van Damme would have beaten up Seagal without much trouble for one main reason: he was in better physical shape.
@DirtBoyzProductions
20 күн бұрын
@@Elderpredator- I have yet to see Stallone even say this claim or verify this story.
@knightrider6473
18 күн бұрын
@@Elderpredator yep heard him say this in an interview. Segal would be no match for Van Damme. Van Damme would easily beat him.
@AztecUnshaven
8 күн бұрын
@@knightrider6473Being ripped doesn't win fights whatsoever lol. Seagal is huge, Van Damme is not a big guy, and he has limited clinch wrestling or throwing experience. Seagal would demolish Van Damme badly man, Seagal has manhandled pro kickboxers with ease.
@knightrider6473
8 күн бұрын
@@AztecUnshaven but van damme wouldn't just throw himself down like all of segals demonstrations, and I didn't say anything about van damme being ripped. He actually has a fight record before he became an actor unlike segal.
A friend was at a disco in Bratislava, Slovakia, and he heard that he took one down in a few seconds. He went to the martial art of Aikido. I can't judge that, that's what I heard!!! He will take your energy, he knows where to hit!!! Everyone can only laugh, but he has not achieved anything in his life like Seagal, Van Damme etc Good luck!!!
I would not want to tangle with Seagal.
Use everything that helps expand you as a fighter. Very much looking forward to your video with Seagal Shihan if you’re able to share. Definitely next level understanding. All my best
Hey all the best coach!! All the best my man, I'm routing for you David.😄😁👍
Sean Chandler just mentioned you in his new "Blu-Ray Haul" video while discussing 'The Last Kumite,' very cool to hear you guys know each other!
@VikingSamurai
25 күн бұрын
Awesome!
Aikido isn't really an, "Empty Handed" Art like Boxing or Karate is. It's specifically for dealing with multiples coming at you with Knives or other weapons like Swords, Clubs or Staffs. It was more along the lines of what Ancient Samurai would use against one another. So the demonstrations looks different, and the trainning looks different. You can't really go "Full Speed" in most trainning, especially with someone who isn't advanced that can't absorb a technique properly or know how to fall, you'd simply dislocate their joints or break their bones. Mr. Boxer wouldn't know any of that. Most people don't really know what Aikido is about, and it would seem that most Dojos (especially in the U.S.) don't properly teach the Combat Version. Great video.
Yeah hes definitely a good boxer and extremely accomplished if you were to compare his combat record with ole Steven 😊
@robertschoelerman7496
24 күн бұрын
This boxer is at the amature level no where near the caliber of all the accomplished guys seagal is around him very day I would have make seagal over this guy 10out of 10rines no comparison in real combat nowledge
@kuwaitisnotadeployment1373
24 күн бұрын
@@robertschoelerman7496 😂😂😂 you're delusional
This is a training drill and they do learn how to fall so they don't get hurt. This doesn't represent the way they would do it in a real fight. Everyone should knows that by now but trashing Seagal seems to put youtubers on the top of the search engine.
Hey David, my name is Scott Rapp. I just wanted to wish you luck with your fight with Shane Mosley! I Would love to bring back the martial arts movies from the 80s and 90s, They were just the best. I’m an actor from Philly and work a lot in Atlanta, been in a lot of movies and it just doesn’t seem like the same! So I appreciate what you’re doing… It’s awesome and personally I think you’re going to beat Shane..so good luck man!!!
@VikingSamurai
25 күн бұрын
@@ScottRapp you should come out to the press conference in Philly on July 11th!
Irimi Omote. Ask Seagal. You, my friend, are going to win.
So sick of the overkill bashing of Seagal. Just how nobody was doing calculated slow motion helicopter kicks with Van Damme's athleticism and flexibility in films, he brought that. Like Seagal brought Aikido techniques, and lethal strikes the way he delivered them, nobody was flipping people and throwing them through walls, with leverage like that & wrist locks, or emphasizing on breaking limbs & gouging eyes, with his particular style & Charisma. Seagal brought that to Cinema.
oh I've seen this guy's videos before. I can see where he is coming from. But I think that's what always kind of bothered me. A lot of these boxers/UFC/MMA fighters etc. put down martial arts cuz they think it's not ideal in a real "street fight." And really.. who ever said it was? Martial arts has a lot more to do with body and mind. spiritual. control. It's primary is not self-defense, while I'm sure would be useful. If you are a fighter and put in such situation.. whether its intentional or not, why not be open to everything and not limit yourself? Steven Segal might have something to add. if not physically.. maybe mentally. Good luck on your training Viking!
Well said, thank you for your work in martial-arts👍
i talked with some aikido "teacher" in Poland. He've been on seminars where Steven Seagal was the main "master" (back in old times). And he told me that what we see in the movies (with Steven Seagal) in many cases is not how the aikido in "real fight" would look like. During demostrations, students are "flying" to.... to avoid breaking arms. If they would not fall in proper way - they would have broken elbows or shoulder. Even this polish teacher had an accident when his partner didn't fall properly and had dislocated elbow joint. End regular man don't know anything about proper falling :) So in the movies, where Seagal does an elbow joint lock (in standing position) the guy does a full rotation in the air :) while real, regular guy - would end up with broken elbow, right in that moment. There's no warnings no "tap-out or I'll break it!" - just one second! And the elbow is done. But it's hard to show such a dynamic arm breaking :) And also when they flying aroudn - it's more... enterteinment :)
@danbixler4021
26 күн бұрын
I can confirm what the aikido teacher in Poland told you is correct. We went pretty hardcore in one of my classes for a while and had some injuries even among experienced Aikidoka. Our teacher at one point closed the doors to our classroom and showed us what he called "the nasty bits" of Aikido. How to easily modify some techniques to break bones and dislocate joints like you see Steven Seagal do in some of his movies. If you learn Aikido from the right teacher, it's not the joke some people on the internet make it out to be. One great thing about it, is that it is meant to take the high road and gently overcome your opponent without injuring them, but it has the option of causing serious injury if you absolutely need to as a last resort. That's why it is popular among cops, bouncers, prison guards, and others in similar lines of work.
Good work I saw your movie The Last Kumite A good novie.I bought it in Walmart.
I like seagal and ill b watching the fight and i hope u win.x
Hey! Best of luck for your upcoming boxing match. Just curious: -still not sure how (and don't agree that ) Aikido or for that matter any stand up grappling is going to help with Boxing? -have you done any of your strength training videos? Esp. combining stength training with combat sports? This is honestly one usp that uou should really consider!
Aikido as a secondary martial art can actually help you improving on your primary martial art.
@perceivedvelocity9914
26 күн бұрын
Aikido doesn't have any modern applications. Seagal claims that it will help you against someone who is using a samurai sword. When was the last time that anyone fought against someone who had one of those?
@Super_D36
26 күн бұрын
@@perceivedvelocity9914 Is there any significant structural difference between someone swinging a sword at you and someone swinging a baseball bat at you?
@guts7958
26 күн бұрын
If you combine it with something sure, by itself no
@Super_D36
26 күн бұрын
@@guts7958 It's why i said secondary martial art. You're supposed to be an expert in another style by the time you start Aikido.
@guts7958
26 күн бұрын
@Super_D36 samething with wing chun, mma has showed, that the so called useless style can work if you apply it to other things
Jefffries told me eating bacon(corpses of pigs) is the healthiest food, hes a total clown.
Viking i was wondering if you could do a vid about this martial arts movie i just watched and give your thoughts on the fights etc.. I thought it was very well done and it reminded me of the 90's martial arts movies. Its called " Life After Fighting". Although people kept getting up like zombies which was rather funny.
I like to teach that all techniques work and all techniques fail. There are times grabing an arm or wrist will not work. You must throw fist, and there are times like when someone just wants to push you back on the chest. I have used an arm bar and rotated to a wrist throw in a real fight an ended the fight. There are many Aikido guys who have used their techniques while bouncing at bars. Again though every fight requires a certain response to win.
I have listened to other martial arts/UFC/MMA channels and the vast majority say that aikido is not an effective martial art for real combat, compared to Thai boxing etc. And I actually think that the problem is that Seagal has spoken so many lies that any legitimacy he had has faded
Viking samurai is probably the most positive action movie youtuber out there
Watch Jeffries last fight he huffed and puffed and gave up to a journeyman boxer, and got gifted with a draw , he failed in the pros and now he pushes his products and teaches others how to gas out too.
Missed you samurai 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 hope you well
Aikido is a great martial art on its own merit... and Seagal took its style to a whole new level
When you say you think Aikido has a lot more real world application that could be useful, were you saying you think it has more real world application than boxing or just more application than people give it credit for?
I don’t get why anyone bothers trashing Seagal, I’ve never seen him trash anyone.
@tecwynwilliams6545
27 күн бұрын
U cant be serious 🤔 he trashes other martial artists all the time, Van damme and MJW being two of them 🤦🏻♂️
@Carmine_Lupertazzi
27 күн бұрын
He does nothing but trash everyone. You live in a bubble.
@varanid9
27 күн бұрын
@@tecwynwilliams6545 That was many years and experiences ago, but, let's put it this way: I've never heard Segal trash another martial art. Call them sports instead of "martial art", yes, but never heard him say they were "bullshit" or "useless".
@knightrider6473
27 күн бұрын
What? Lol he had trashed so many people. Literally no one in Hollywood likes him.
@varanid9
27 күн бұрын
@@knightrider6473 I would wear that as a badge of honor. Not too many people in Hollywood I have anything but utter contempt for. But, hey, if you worship them, do your own thing.
Just make the fight between you 2 lol but I'm a fan of both of you im subscribe to both your channels i take tips for my training
Viking you should also cross train with Sensei Benny Urquidez and Michael Jai white. Along with, believe it or not me too. I know a thing or two in regards to striking, that, I can also share.
How is your day Mr Samurai?
@VikingSamurai
27 күн бұрын
Great, thanks!
What people don't understand steven is not a fighter this boxer would kill him.......and it has been proven so many times........just as viking you are not a fighter and you will get dominated by shane.......I do love the channel and content you make though just my opinion ❤️🙏
@VikingSamurai
27 күн бұрын
Make sure to watch the fight Sept 28th!
@guts7958
26 күн бұрын
@@VikingSamurai I will, I'm interested in seeing how you do
Anderson Silva's longtime Judo and Strength coach stated VERY clearly that Seagal RAG DOLLED him around the mats like nothing. Bear in mind that this Judo coach is 220 plus pounds of solid muscle and a high level Judo black belt and coached Silva for years. For him to state Seagal is the real deal is pretty large praise.
@Carmine_Lupertazzi
27 күн бұрын
Bullshit. There's a video on KZread showing Silva taking the piss out of Seagal.
@AztecUnshaven
27 күн бұрын
@@Carmine_Lupertazzi There's also videos of Anderson taking the piss out of EVERYONE, including many of his own friends like Lyoto Machida and Rafael Cordeiro. Does that mean Lyoto isn't a legit fighter, since Anderson made fun of him? Lol. If you refuse to believe that Anderson credited Seagal for sharpening his striking method, you're denying reality. Go look for the videos yourself, Anderson was on multiple Brazilian podcasts earlier this year explaining in FULL DETAIL how Seagal truly helped his kicking power and delivery. He also talked about how Seagal's dad was military and that's how Seagal first traveled to Japan as a young man.
@Carmine_Lupertazzi
27 күн бұрын
@AztecUnshaven What has Seagal's dad got to do with what I said? I never denied Seagal went to Japan. You Seagal fans are all the same. No substance and full of irrelevance.
@AztecUnshaven
26 күн бұрын
@@Carmine_Lupertazzi Are you a complete moron? Did you not read my post above? I stated MULTIPLE videos exist of Anderson HIMSELF stating everything I'm stating here. It's literally right there for you to see. Why do you refuse to look for it? Lol.
@KoTM25681
26 күн бұрын
Jon Jones claimed MJW beat him up in sparring y'all believe that too?
That Aikido demonstration was a joke. It was a performance. Basically professional wrestling or ballroom dancing. Seagal's moves only work when all of the people involved playing along. There is a reason why Seagal has never had a real fight. If he did, Seagal could not control the outcome.
With your experience, work ethics and fighting skills, there won't be any mistakes. Aikido will definitely strengthen your posture, help you block punches and use your opponent's force against him. Seagal is definitely the right choice when it comes to Aikido training and his energy will keep you motivated to win. All the best and we'll be ready to celebrate your victory.
It always batfles me when people shit on segal when countless fighters have went to him and had suceess piererra , hell appearantly he helped anderson silva with that nasty headkick that sent vetor to the shadow realm !
@JANI1980.
26 күн бұрын
Helped Silva with one the most Basic of kicks and Silva was wow, thats how that kick is done? thanks for this, i needed this again 😂😂
@RhynnMedia
26 күн бұрын
@JANI1980. your missing the point yes silva was a master already but fact is what I stated is true fighters go to him to learn something and silva practiced aikido and wing Chung both of wich are styles that people consider useless in a real fight yet silva used them masterfully My point is that martial arts are only as useful as the person doing them People make fun of segal for being old and out of shape like the man isn't closing in on his twilight years let the man enjoy his food and fruits of his labor he was an actor never claimed to be a pro segal is a legend like him or not
@JANI1980.
25 күн бұрын
@@RhynnMedia yep, like David has said before, us simple minded people don't always get the point 🙋
Will you be losing a lot of weight during your training camp?
@VikingSamurai
27 күн бұрын
We're fighting at 170.. I'm 185 currently
Please get van damme🎉🎉🎉🎉
How many people did steven seagal beat in a real fight? How many fights has vk had? And to call Tony out on his views which are correct about a martial art that doesn't work at all in real combat. I think people need to understand that Tony would batter seagal and vk ie delusional dave inside a round
@perceivedvelocity9914
26 күн бұрын
A lot of people cannot separate the movies from the person who was in them. You see that a lot with Bruce Lee. There are a lot of people online who are convinced that Bruce could beat anyone in real life.
@jamiemccutcheon8302
26 күн бұрын
@@perceivedvelocity9914 100 percent Bruce lee was a great martial artist and excellent philosopher but wasn't a legitimate fighter.
I have Toney’s channel. Good stuff. Looks like he’s trying to promote himself. VS, you know what that looks like 😉. Focus what’s in front of you. If you preform well against SSM then you could put a challenge to Toney? Whatever useful thing Seagul shows you will be on display when you box SSM. I’m not sure what that could be within a week of training with a guy that doesn’t box🥊🥊. I’m curious… Still to many different looks in training can backfire on you. This isn’t Samurai Jack origins! It’s about to get real VS! Focus on your fight Toney’s comments will distract you. If Seagal’s methods and techniques are real deal show us on fight night.
It's actually disgusting, the degree to which Tony would beat the absolute brakes off both u AND Seagal at the SAME TIME, respectfully. As a longtime viewer, it's really wild & frankly a bit disturbing watching your understanding of combat sports actually deteriorate over time & only become MORE detached from reality. Parroting laughable McDojo hokum that's been debunked for 40yrs to defend the "legitimacy" of a fake "fighter" who does Japanese martial dance choreography, who's never once proven he's anything more than a terrible out-of-shape actor, & to hype up Aikido, the least proven, least effective, least respected martial art to have ever washed up on American shores. It's gotten to the point where when I show your videos to other fighters/ trainers they straight up refuse to believe you're being serious, utterly convinced ur trolling ! I always at least found this channel entertaining, but it's just gotten more & more unhinged. It's almost not funny anymore. The stuff you're saying is on par w/ a guy who still plays w/ action figures & believes pro wrestling is real. Respectfully.
@VikingSamurai
27 күн бұрын
Just make sure to watch my fight against Mosley!
@jamiemccutcheon8302
27 күн бұрын
@@VikingSamuraiif Mosley loses you must be paying him because you can't box eggs delusional dave
@AztecUnshaven
27 күн бұрын
@ubahfly5409 You're conveniently forgetting the part where Alex Pereira's HEAD COACHES all stated Seagal is the absolute real deal. So much so, in fact, that they're continuing to stay in contact with Seagal for future training. Rangel Farias, a master of Muay Thai and coach of Pereira was blown away and how heavy and fast Seagal's strikes were. You can find the interview yourself in Portuguese language. Seagal has also trained Karate, Silat and Gongfu by the way. So do we take the word of Alex and his world class coaches? Or do we instead believe some basement nerd in a comment section that hates on Seagal blindly?
@jamiemccutcheon8302
27 күн бұрын
@@AztecUnshaven all bullshido
@VikingSamurai
27 күн бұрын
That's disrespectful towards Mosley to even think he'd consider getting paid off to take a dive.
Just when I thought you might be getting big enough to get close to JC's camp and have a sit down with him, you go and train with Segal.
@VikingSamurai
25 күн бұрын
Steven Seagal rules!
@FDNRunningandMotivation-ws1hd
25 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@VikingSamurai
@DirtBoyzProductions
20 күн бұрын
I know…way-to-go, DAVID, you screwed that up….😉
Is Tim Witherspoon helping you on this match ?
@VikingSamurai
27 күн бұрын
No, my full camp is in California with Phil Paolina, much better team for me.
Seagal is a bad ass, the man has done alot.
As bad as when segal claimed he helped ufc fighters. He has nothing to offer a fighting martial artist
Did u see van damme new movie? Are u gonna review?
@VikingSamurai
27 күн бұрын
Haven't seen it yet
@CinematicTendency
27 күн бұрын
Which movie is that?
@paulsmith9192
26 күн бұрын
@CinematicTendency darkness of man
@paulsmith9192
26 күн бұрын
@VikingSamurai surprised. With u being a hardcore van damme fan
@CinematicTendency
26 күн бұрын
@@paulsmith9192 Ah, ok. Is it out yet? I’ve seen the trailer. It looks good.
I know you're all about the clickbait but how does Stephen seagal help to fight mosley??...the irony of the whole video did you even mention why Tony was forced to retire?....yet you question his resume?...how many fights had you had at the age he was forced to retire?.
@jamiemccutcheon8302
26 күн бұрын
He's had one fight with a head guard low level amateur if that and now he thinks he's rocky. Tony is a real good boxer excellent amateur and never lost as a professional needed to retire due to hand injuries.
There are at least 3 big name MMA fighters that have trained under Segal. According to Dana White, both Machida and Anderson told him that Segal was "the real thing" (his words).
Sad little many deleting my comments
@VikingSamurai
26 күн бұрын
I don't delete comments, you're a sad little man for assuming as much though
@jamiemccutcheon8302
26 күн бұрын
@@VikingSamurai I tell you what I will set you up in a real fight with a half decent pro delusional Dave I bet you wouldn't last a round
@jamiemccutcheon8302
26 күн бұрын
Ok delusional Dave don't bite too hard Nancy boy
@jamiemccutcheon8302
26 күн бұрын
And just like that my comment disappeared
@jamiemccutcheon8302
26 күн бұрын
Ok delusional Dave calm down 🤣
How come so many actors have come out and said how much they hated working with segal?
Sorry but utter bullshit, Tony is 100% correct.
Everything Seagal says is true.
There are a lot of differences between Segal's training drill and hitting a speed bag. For one thing, Steven's training drill seems useful maybe for helping people learn how to fall if that is indeed what he trying to do here. The problem with it, at least in video format, is that no one is paying attention to the way people are falling in this video. They're paying attention to the actor that is making them all look like helpless rag dolls. Two, Steven won't be able to do any of that in a real fight against that many people, but no one expects anything more from the speed bag than what you typically see from someone working on the speed bag. Working on the speed bag has immediately recognizable use and benefit. It's difficult to determine who Steven's exercise is meant to benefit. The practicality of this is just a bit more suspect. At the end of the day, AI don't believe Segal is so much better at martial arts than the guys he's using in the demonstration, but I do believe the person on the speed bag is capable of doing what he does to the speed bag.
Stop making excuses for the joke that is aikido, you are promoting it as a valid self defence and that in itself is very very dangerous. Anyone who takes your nonsense advice and gets beaten in a street fight or seriously hurt because they listened to you should consider sueing. Sort it out.
@VikingSamurai
27 күн бұрын
I preach situational awareness and avoiding street fights if you can due to legal repercussions, bc even if someone wins, they'll still lose in other ways.
@neotenylv09
27 күн бұрын
People get beaten and get hurt despite knowing BJJ, boxing, or Muay Thai. Self defense is more than kicking and punching.
@user-zh2gl6ko1q
27 күн бұрын
u
@user-zh2gl6ko1q
27 күн бұрын
@@VikingSamuraiyou can't preach something valid and then contradict it by promoting a self defence that bares no validity even anything remotely real life. There will be impressionable people who look to people such ad yourself for guidance especially with regards to self-defence.
Viking samarai your being derespectful You all buT snubbed him for not getting gold at the olympics. I used to like your channel but since you started down this boxing route your not showing confidence your showing alot of arqrogance. Unless sugar shane mosely plays with you you going to get smashed. Your acting way to cocky what happened to being humble
@JANI1980.
24 күн бұрын
He is an actor, So thats why he acts the way he does. Gets More views being cocky.
I don't like Tony Jeffries I could take him 1 on 1 he is full of himself 💪
@jamiemccutcheon8302
27 күн бұрын
No mate your a dreamer that is nowhere near Tony's standard. Tony is a ex professional that never lost who won bronze in the Olympics so stop been delusional
I have a brilliant idea for a cartoon its called delusional Dave its a bit like Walter mitty but with a martial artist who lives in a delusional world and all his heros from the movies are top rated fighters who train him to become a kumite champion and teach him the dim fok hes special move
I have balance and i understand center line. These are basics and this alone is enough not to fall for it. I think this is only situational: when you are trying to grab someone. American wrestling would probably be supperior to aukkido and you cant do any of this.
Speed bags are not entire humans flopping around: i dont blame him for thinking this is stupid. Also,boxing is not superior to other striking arts and they would probably agree with tony. I think its just a waste of time. Bunkai is what matters along with serious trainning and repitition. If this is a demonstration it just looks and in my opinion is a dishonest one. Me and 3 randoms would beat anyone on the planet not striking at us to stop us.
To be fair akido is bullshit
@MarioLamRedRebel
27 күн бұрын
Aikido is no bull💩 but the people that disrespect it are bull💩.
@BrandonHaymon
27 күн бұрын
How do you know have you ever try aikido? No you wouldn't and you are not being fair you are being a troll
@Filthy_Larry
27 күн бұрын
@@BrandonHaymonI’ve seen it on tv. Tried to fight a group of Jamaicans but it didn’t work. Now I’m going to write a letter to Seagal telling him that his movie Marked For Death nearly got me killed. Maybe I’ll win money 😂
@MarioLamRedRebel
27 күн бұрын
@@BrandonHaymon agree with you 🥊
@indyphillipconner6252
27 күн бұрын
Just go up to Seagal and run your mouth and film it let's see how well it goes for you 😂
David you stole what i told you, about the rocky iv scene, you dont really think you gonna whoop me, i sent that to you the other day and now you use it in your video, how creative of you.
@VikingSamurai
27 күн бұрын
On here, IG or Facebook? I don't remember u sending anything. Have we ever even spoke to each other?
@Rance-lb1in
26 күн бұрын
@@VikingSamurai weve spoken a number of times always on here, the rocky qoute was made by me on one of your short video,s, trying to remember which one. a short vid you made last week, its too much of a coincidence you using that qoute from the movie. i recall you stating that when winning you will be a legend. and i qouted rocky iv appolo to drago. you dont really think you gonna whoop me now do you ! few days later you are using it in you vid. , hey it could well be just a coincidence maybe but even a cop would think its abit suspicious, not that it really matters some people lack imagination and have to seek ideas for content via other people., regardless good luck with your channel and of course your erm, hahahahaha fight.
@VikingSamurai
26 күн бұрын
I use Rocky clips all the time, I don't remember any previous interactions we've had. Your user name is very generic and doesn't have a picture associated with it. I get hundreds of messages a day throughout KZread, FB and Instagram, so unless someone has a very unique profile, it doesn't stick with me.
@Rance-lb1in
26 күн бұрын
@@VikingSamurai well opinions vary, but not that i own any rights of course, just thought it abit cheeky, you bragging of becoming a legend, i give a qoute in response and have it and behold david just so happens to put this very same movie qoute in a video 2 days later ? what are the chances hey ? not like it was as well known or used such as were gonna need a bigger boat ! so chances you suddenly using this same is slim. if you went back through that post you would find it, but doesnt matter not like i can sue you is it lol infact even sly lacks power regarding rocky as irwin winkler owns all the rights . but anyway no problem onwards and upwards.
Yeah but aikido doesn’t work against somebody who is actually trained and trying to hurt you it only works in demos and lacks hand techniques and kicks and realistic lock and grappling techniques I’ve fought and trained against aikido guys who think it’s going to work it they get taken down or overwhelmed with punches and kicks sorry i agree with the boxer here Aikido doesn’t cut as a martial art in my book there are so many that work better and function more theoretically and are battle tested with realistic and modern techniques
@VikingSamurai
17 күн бұрын
Most people who actually train aren't looking to go out and hurt people on the street.
They comping Judo and Aikido you get something very beautiful 😅
Isn't the idea of the aikido demonstration to fend off guys who are charging at you with the intent of tackling you. Or taking you down with a choke hold or something? Obviously if someone stands in front of you wanting to box, then you would utilize a different skill as required.
I can honestly say as someone who has done TMA and training in Muay Thai. My ability to fight and ability to defend myself has went up in one month of consistent MT training. Which is considered a combat sport despite the fact it's a n old battlefield art that got modified to the ring
If boxing was the best then no one would learn Martial arts or MMA, a total MMA guy or martial artist would beat a boxer in a real fight on the street, most of the time, boxers are trained to watch for or know how to block kicks, leg, kicks, head kicks, knees, elbows, watch for takedowns, they are only trained to watch for boxing punches.
No, he's not being disrespectful. I think if he had a good answer he would shut up and apologise.
Going to Steven Seagal to learn about boxing is like going to Mike Tyson to learn about aikido.
@VikingSamurai
19 күн бұрын
I'm not going to him to learn boxing, he's much more versed than just Aikido.
Seagal started at the bottom, and worked his way up to doing P.R. for the invasion of Europe. The American Dream!
🥕
And then in '79 I taught a boxer how to be a chimpanzee.
Come on man…
Vik Sam - I want to meet the people that are backing you, because there's no way you should be winning these fights and it makes me think this is some kind of esoteric thing within the industry to make money. By all means, make some money and at least you made it to the big screen and a lot of people never have that wanted to, so I support that entrepreneurial spirit, I just can't help shaking the feeling that there's something a little off about your story ...😁
@VikingSamurai
17 күн бұрын
The odds are severely stacked against me vs Mosley, if I do happen to pull off a miracle, it'll be real. Training hard in CA right now with the perfect team for me!
@americanosbadassius9292
17 күн бұрын
@@VikingSamurai OK, OK, best of luck, 100% hope your victorious and create another great American underdog story!
I wouldn't mind training with Steven Seagal, so long as he can teach me to grow a wicked ponytail that helps me to run like a girl ! 😁