Steven your gracious by letting the younger man speak his truth.

Stephen , I kept thinking listening to you that in a past life you wore a Greek robe and walked with the ancient Greek philosophers . Breathtaking to hear you both discuss such a wonderful topic Thank you

I wonder if this is why most astrologers don’t offer written readings- because it’s not a two way exchange? It’s lovely to learn from these two. As an astrologer in training who is learning about integrity this has been a really useful video to watch.

@ClaudeChalk

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

You guys are friggen LEGENDS!!!

I'm an astrologer and agree, we can't as astrologers state or analyse what the person's personalty is or "define their nature" from their chart, it is a fluid time line and one that can change in many ways over time, sometimes in an instant. Being in service when consulting is key.

I love this on fate... We meet all the choices we need through life to reach where we are mow.

wow! Hearing them both speak is music to my ears. Such wise wise wise perspectives, and both are such tender souls. I feel you both. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us, and thank you for being here.

This is a super interesting interview, thank you for bringing it to my attention. I do not perceive myself as an Astrologer just yet, but I am fascinated by it. When I first began learning it I didn't think much of it and I was almost annoyed by it, only after reading a book written by Jeffrey Wolf Green I began to look at Astrology from a different perspective and that perspective is the reason that I am so fascinated with this Science today...I completely agree with both Steven Forrest and Mark Jones on pretty much everything I have heard so far. Although I don't see myself as an expert just yet, the first things that I look in a chart are Pluto first and the two True Lunar Nodes next, for some reason these are the features that intrigue me the most regardless what goes on in the rest of the chart. I too see the chart as an opportunity to learn and evolve and not something to identify into since the probably the purpose of it is to show us where we are at the time of birth and where we can and should move towards according to our soul's. These two guys have two interesting Auric fields, both quite sharp and listening to them it is like listening to some classical music while these two authors are chiming together. Wonderful interview!

Wow what an interview and so special thanks for sharing❤️

They are both amazing.

Start with Pluto n the nodes, but then also the polarity of Pluto. Love the extra perception re the wounds of soul ... Thanks for a superb interview gentleman.

This is a refreshingly brilliant conversation! Thank you for this!

Thank you Steven and Mark, for sharing your experiences, knowledge and time to help the masses. Your both bright stars ! Sending you all the best !!!

Wonderful, thank you, Fate or Free will…well- still pondering your response. 🤷🏻‍♀️💫

My Moon is totally out-of-bounds too! 💗💗💗

I agree, it doesn't matter if you believe in astrology. Your part of the whole no matter. Your life and life is you. Just be the best you !

The camera close up of Steven ... Beautiful eyes !

Thought this was a wonderful conversation and very well-moderated. Well done, and thanks for sharing!

Knowing yourself is the best .. Astrology is a great tool ... I love tools. The more you know !

As I 17 year old girl with Venus in Capricorn, can relate xD But great that I found you guys. I stated my loneliness and difficulties on socializing in that, like that's the reason why im like this but its not. I really identifiy myself with that description but I still have free will, even though I have that placement I can be social.

So nice! Thanks

I’m always wondering what moon could be representing. Mark and Steve gave the amazing idea no where else could be found.

Excellent interview!! Thank you!!

I strongly believe that the person fits into our c soul, so I love the concept that the chart total is the soul. I "feel" being the person inside stretching to reach certain parts, growing tp reach!

mark could stand to learn how to be silent for long enough to let steven complete his full thoughts. if you know steven he does not waste words. steven, ever graceful, handled it like the wiser elder that he is. had trouble getting through this for that reason. the world needs more people capable of stillness.

Thank you Tony! Just excellent.

Thank you both!!

This was moving. Thank You!

The map is not the territory ~ The menu is not the meal ~ The battle is not the war ~ Some days you get it, some days you lose it. *****

Just came across this. Lovely rich interview 💖. Thank you June 4th 2021

Thank you. Such confirmation of my very own thoughts.

That's the mystery and wonderful part of astrology ... We are all unique !

Wonderful!

Amazing! Love love. How about the ruler of the South Node Mercury squaring Pluto.

The opposition between younger and older is so obvious here.

Oh, choice ! I totally believe in choice !

I love the sparks and light generated by these two luminious minds. I do need to point out that 'belief' is a religious term, and must never enter into the bolts of light in this the highest art. No one believes or disbelieves in water or the alphabet or numbers. The latter two are organizing principles. It is very difficult to stay on track in this gifted conversation when 'belief' and 'tools' are used in close proximity. We can do better gentlemen. Margaret Mead said when asked long ago whether she believed in U.F.O.s. She called it “a silly question,” writing in Redbook in 1974: “Belief has to do with matters of faith; it has nothing to do with the kind of knowledge that is based on scientific inquiry. … Do people believe in the sun or the moon, or the changing seasons, or the chairs they’re sitting on? When we want to understand something strange, something previously unknown to anyone, we have to begin with an entirely different set of questions. What is it? How does it work?”

Fate is like a train rolling in a direction. Free Will is like the person on that train. Did they pick the train? Did they get on it by chance. Could they choice to get off, now that it's rolling. They either bought the ticket or someone handed it to them but they got on. They might jump off now, but it likely would hurt. They might find themselves somewhere they didn't plan. Then they would have to buy another ticket, or jump another train to some where else. They can wait till the train stops at a station and get off. But a train still had to bring them there. To get to anywhere else that's far, another train will have to take them there too.

@lynnroots7556

7 ай бұрын

BRILLIANT !!!

Nam myoho renge kyo .. Devotion to the mystic law of cause and effect through sound.

the empirical results have turn a lot of non-believers into believers

I agree about fate and an inference of no free will or options. Any astrologer who gives the message that things are written in stone and we just have to deal with it, is not competent. People we have arranged to meet up with in this incarnation, yes but how we deal with them is up to us.

The quantum entanglement theory combined with the effect of the planet on each astronomical object in the universe makes sense. That’s the groundwork, so why does Astrology trigger them? Is it the Psychology of understanding yourself through a tool that makes those afraid of self-awareness cower behind science, and disregard the highest values of the study. Self-observation of Empirical data.

Steven Forrest looks just like Rick Levine!

@anitaclarke7085

6 жыл бұрын

Fausto Essentuki Yes, he does ! Wonder if Rick knows him. I'm sure he may. Lol

@lilianegitane

6 жыл бұрын

I got confused too!

@MelissaThompson432

5 жыл бұрын

I think he looks as much like David Crosby as he does Rick Levine. I wonder if Crosby does astrology...? ;)

Let me please drop a question: is the current economic financial market system more believable and honest than astrological studies?

@JohnSmith-gt4us

9 жыл бұрын

from my point of view belief plays no role in any of these.

Wow!! pretty interesting to see how similar the planets placements were in Charles Chaplin and Adolf Hitler's charts. However, the differences are also uncanny. Adolf Hitler had Uranus in the Ascendant and Charles Chaplin had the Moon in the Ascendant so that to me explains a lot. Also, Hitler had Pluto conj Neptune in the 8th House while this same conj fell in Chaplins' much friendlier 7th House. So no, these charts are fundamentally very different.

@Plethorality

3 жыл бұрын

there is also always choice.

@Plethorality

2 жыл бұрын

@@jfreeman3978 choices are razor thin.. that is the nature of decision. but i agree, nature and nurture can figure heavily, snf breaking out of that is not always easy. keeping a sense of hunour seems the key to sanity and kindness.. hitler lost all of that... but chaplin chose it, and grew it. choices. each little razor's edge of choice, builds our destiny and legacy. kindness and hunour are powerful partners.

Gem

👌👏🙏🎯💯💐🕊

So then what is the use of the chart?

@ariesred777

8 жыл бұрын

+Evelyn Mitchell I see it a a faint image of the house of one's soul.A very good diviner will have much clarity/perception.The chart would then be like the front door.Healing can take place but the clients "will" is inevitably the deciding factor.Responsiblity for our lives.Akin to a surgeon but on a much higher energetic level.

no one leaves without feeling lost they never had it in the first place they just thought for the spearh of transistion remmemberining

Mark Jones stop interrupting Steven Forrest!

@dflora8665

7 ай бұрын

Mark jones has infinite wisdom! I wanna hear him speak.

@lynnroots7556

7 ай бұрын

BRAVO d flora STEVEN is fine with Mark Just fine 💕L xxx Nov 22nd 2023

everyone suffers and has pain

Patriarchy... as in Saturn? I see Saturn as a true representative of patriarchy.

A good talk but Jones interrupted constantly; would have preferred for him to allow Forrest to complete his thought rather than commandeer the discussion of every prompt.

@chrisdenchal8396

8 жыл бұрын

you must have watched a different video to me. I didnt find Mark intrusive or commandeering. He is a very competent astrologer and passionate about it.

@nathaniellcornejo

8 жыл бұрын

Steven Forerest is passionate and competent And was constantly interrupted 🌷

@YahLuna

6 жыл бұрын

I too observed that dynamics as well and took into consideration the difference in their energetic expression. Forrest is more mature and grounded, of course. I too felt and saw that Forrest was interrupted quite noticeably, an air dominance from Jones. But I enjoyed the conversation nonetheless.

@anitaclarke7085

6 жыл бұрын

Nathaniel Cornejo We are all searching love. Something to look forward to. Lol

@anitaclarke7085

6 жыл бұрын

Nathaniel Cornejo We are all searching love. Something to look forward to. Lol

I wished I heard more from Steven and less from Mark who seems he wants to show so much how smart he is , interrupting a wise man is not the best way Mark!

The key is within yourself. If you're looking for something or someone to save you ... Just look in the mirror ! Lol

@innocencessie

5 жыл бұрын

anita clarke 😂 true tho

The astrologers oath, as well as the oath I took in human behavior ethics, allows me to see the nature of an individual in a neutrality. I don't believe astrology can stand without human behavior or psychology. IMHO

Mark needs to lean to let other people speak. Better moderation would have helped.

Okay can Mark shut up for one second and let Steven talk?

I like both these guys, but WOW, too basic.

@jomontanee

5 жыл бұрын

So, how advanced you are?

rubbish, the sun = the soul