Getting kicked out of G 'n' R for being an addict is like getting kicked out of a disco for dancing.

@kazabushy

3 жыл бұрын

Or getting kicked out of a bar for drinking!

@cgh7337

3 жыл бұрын

Or like getting a speeding ticket at the Indy 500.

@round105

3 жыл бұрын

That wasn't the issue, Gnr managed to keep themselves at least in good shape to record. Adler at this time was showing up late, or when he did show up he would be to loaded to play the tracks. Slash and Duff even went to his house to try and straighten him out. Whats the point of a drummer if he cant even play on the album.

@Nightfall_zv

2 жыл бұрын

@@round105 yea only song he plays drums on on the uyi albums is civil war and I think it took almost 25 different takes to get the drum track recorded and they had to heavily edit it

@sacredsalt6840

2 жыл бұрын

Or getting kicked out of a sports game because you cheered for your favorite team.

Man this band has enough history to make 2 movies out of it.

@4evrmind

3 жыл бұрын

fr!!

@homenetmiraflores7429

3 жыл бұрын

Yeahh the problem is: Director: axl rose Producer: axl rose Starring : axl rose Secundary actor: axl rose Weardrobe: axl rose Hair stylist : axl rose Guest starring : axl rose Profit and evwrything : axl rose

@johnbrown577

3 жыл бұрын

Axl did Steven dirty on Rocket Queen. 😥

@youtubeturnedtoshyte.218

3 жыл бұрын

History is right, this band has not really released anything worth listening to since 1987's Appetite for Destruction!

@4evrmind

3 жыл бұрын

@@youtubeturnedtoshyte.218 dude use your illusion and chinese democracy are masterpieces of music

I love slash, but the firing of Steven for drugs is the most hypocritical thing I’ve ever heard of.

@stoneman7328

2 жыл бұрын

Slash stoped around the time the Appitite came out

@alanndrake2619

2 жыл бұрын

@@stoneman7328 no he didn't, go read his book.

@OldAussieAds

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a big fan of Steven Adler. But I know Steven didn't get kicked out for doing drugs. He got kicked out for his behavior while on drugs. If Steven was able to continue to function semi normally, I'm pretty sure he'd have been ok for the time being. But different people cope differently to addiction and unfortunately for Steven, he was no longer able to do his job. If this were some part time local band, that might have been ok. But for a band that was starting to sell out stadium concerts months (even a year) ahead, they couldn't work with someone who couldn't get their shit together. The same thing would have happened if Steven wasn't able to function for any other reason. Every member of that band suffered in some way or another due to drug or alcohol addiction (except maybe Axl but even then, I don't know) - Steven was just the first.

@Bncxx1275

2 жыл бұрын

@@OldAussieAds well Ask dave Mustaine

@kennytesta9312

Жыл бұрын

It was more than Steven doing drugs he couldn’t play anymore and he was behaving erratically and becoming a detriment.

One of the most disappointing circumstances in rock history.

@mjlives5428

3 жыл бұрын

Oh cmon dude a bit dramatic,Beatles breaking up..Morrison,Presley Cobain death etc.....than this?No one even cares.

@a.m8878

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. And to kick an amazing drummer like steven ( in such a horriffic way) to put a joke of a drummer like Sorum. Just because he was in the cult...my god. Unbelievable...

@chadster123

3 жыл бұрын

@@mjlives5428 You are totally right man. Just a friendly tip for you : Always use a space after a full stop, comma, etc. It just reads a bit better. Hope this doesn't come across the wrong way dude. Peace

@mjlives5428

3 жыл бұрын

@@chadster123 Will work on that, Cheers!

@chadster123

3 жыл бұрын

@@mjlives5428 You got it already! Here's to MJ!

Steven owes a BIG "Thank-You" to his mom, Deanna, for going over all his paperwork, contacting a lawyer, + making this lawsuit happen on behalf of her son. During this time, according to Steven's book, he was in the depths of addiction. Man if everyone could have such a devoted + loving mom!

@avax2727

4 жыл бұрын

His mom left him on the streets when he was like 11

@Anabellelynnmusic

4 жыл бұрын

Wasted Youth no she sent him away to his grandparents

@avax2727

4 жыл бұрын

Annie F still a mother should never give up on their child, my mum did on me and I could never forgive her

@cornstar1253

4 жыл бұрын

Then don't be an addict. The other guys cleaned up so...

@stevenm2949

3 жыл бұрын

His mom was his saving grace...she wrote a great book about him

Irrelevant but slashes hair is beautiful in this

@amandalovelace2772

3 жыл бұрын

It sure is!

@Natalie-ox7xm

3 жыл бұрын

Something that majestic could never be irrelevant !

@fmbighair

3 жыл бұрын

Natalie 1982 Adlers long dirty blonde locks are equally if not MORE majestic!!!

@vdLeo-je6os

3 жыл бұрын

Steven hair is definetelly more beautiful than Slash's

@imablazeuonfiya

3 жыл бұрын

mixed people hair is the best.

„Tell us, in your own words, about the spaghetti incident".

@timeboy8770

3 жыл бұрын

Well, my arms were heavy...

@huggybearjohnson4197

3 жыл бұрын

Funny how that album name came about lol

@carsonwood2095

3 жыл бұрын

I remember being excited about that album coming out. Huge disappointment.

@hudson_19

3 жыл бұрын

@@timeboy8770 my palms were sweaty

@Thevoiceofreason84

3 жыл бұрын

@@carsonwood2095 it’s a decent album of cover songs

The case was settled out of court in 1993; Adler received a back-payment check of $2,250,000 and was granted 15% of the royalties for everything he recorded prior to his departure.

@mitsuriKD

Жыл бұрын

thank u

@easilyoffended7772

10 ай бұрын

That 15 percent is more than Slash was recieving.....Prob to date a couple hundred million

Firing Steven was the beginning of the end for Guns n' Roses. It began a slow decay and eventual implosion that left the band unrecognizable with only one member left. Was a shame and a disgrace how it happened.

@necromancerification

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree! that'S why I prefer their 80's gigs over the UYI tour...

@jokerzwild00

3 жыл бұрын

I love Steve's drumming on Appetite, it's pretty much perfection for that kind of music and his style is surprisingly hard to replicate. That said, to me it really felt like the band could have overcome his loss. it was Izzy's leaving that really marked it's downfall. He was the filter for Axl's madness, the one person who could talk sense in to him when Slash and Duff couldn't get through. Also GnR's style of music changed drastically from Appetite to UYI. Stadium rock anthems are not Adler's groove, he's a LA club metal guy, and a damned good one. This was just as much of a reason for his firing as the drugs were. They wanted to enter the big time with Illusion, but Adler wasn't in the right state for that ride. I think they did him dirty no matter the reason. If they wanted him out that's fine, but they should have at least cut him loose with what he rightfully earned without him having to take them to court.

@mountainpeakcloud8442

3 жыл бұрын

@@jokerzwild00 I agree. Izzy leaving signaled the downwards sprial.

@SHOUTband

3 жыл бұрын

they saved his life by firing him he would have been dead...

@deckard2665

3 жыл бұрын

​@@SHOUTband No one knows that. Stevens drug habit got a lot worse after being fired.

I really don't think Slash cared much about being in that courtroom

@IcOmEiNpEaCe333

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think most like going to court, unless they work there.

@champtouch3298

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaa Exactly !!

@flugplatz21

3 жыл бұрын

Slash hardly cared about anything back then. Axl gets the biggest blame for taking over and ruining the band, but I place a lot of blame on both Duff and Slash for having the personalities to stand up to Axl, but both were too far gone in their addictions to actually do anything about it. Both knew the band was being stolen, and both decided to just have another drink instead of deal with Axl. Glad their all good now. It's nice to see your hero's healthy and old.

@ezekielwhite8443

3 жыл бұрын

@@flugplatz21 I think Slash may have been scared of Axl at first which is why he never said anything cause he thought if he did he would've been booted out of the band

@flugplatz21

3 жыл бұрын

@@ezekielwhite8443 You know, I just started watching the Velvet Revolver video about their falling apart, and part of the story is how Matt had to fire all the early guys who didn't fit because Slash just couldn't confront people like that. So, maybe I'm wrong about the strength of personality that he had. You may be right.

And they STILL haven't found a drummer as good as Adler,

@man.i.literally.failed6772

3 жыл бұрын

NEVER WILL!

@toddlavigne6441

3 жыл бұрын

Adler had great feel, kind of the John Bonham of this LA band

@MrAndychannon

3 жыл бұрын

Their current drummer is shit

@jerof5497

3 жыл бұрын

Dude, Matt Sorum

@duncan3998

3 жыл бұрын

Uhm..Matt Sorum. Were you living under a rock?

My left ear really enjoyed this video

@euphah8721

3 жыл бұрын

lmao fr

@Dany-du2hp

3 жыл бұрын

Ahahaha i was on headphones too :D

@fauntleeeeroy

3 жыл бұрын

I'm deaf in my left ear so heard nothing

@user-fj6qq2vm7c

3 жыл бұрын

Give your phone a 180

@johnpaulsurigao5933

2 жыл бұрын

i thought my earphones we're broke

This occurred in the fall of 1993. No one knew it at the time, but Slash wouldn’t play another gig with Axl for 23 years after this.

@duncan3998

3 жыл бұрын

No, Spring 1993

@longbeach7623

3 жыл бұрын

@@duncan3998 I know it says that in the description, but I had previously read these court hearings actually occurred in the fall. Unless they were squeezed in during a brief break, GNR were still on tour through July at this point.

This was the beginning of the end for Guns. Axl's faith in the original concept was pretty much shattered after this and his need to control everything skyrocketed.

I feel bad for Steven 🥺

@duncan3998

3 жыл бұрын

Same. he was the best lineup. Unforgiven

@corysanderson6177

3 жыл бұрын

@Inside Barry's Mind you mean like what the band should have done?

@sammyallen6331

3 жыл бұрын

@Inside Barry's Mind hey hey! Calm down please but thanks for saying that though.

@benallmark9671

3 жыл бұрын

Me too , any idea what he ended up settling for ? It should of been 10:million at that time and a small percentage of future earnings

@sammyallen6331

3 жыл бұрын

@@benallmark9671 oh

they absolutely screwed Steven...he was the best drummer they have had, everyone in that band was drugged out 24/7...I saw them in '87 and they were lucky to be upright during the show.

@robk5865

3 жыл бұрын

Saw them once, live in Toronto a few months before Appetite blew up. They opened for The Cult and they sounded awful onstage. They were wasted and a lot of people in the crowd were giving them the finger. Only when I heard the full album a little while after that, did I understand what the hype was about....

Losing Izzy, Steve and getting backing singers??.... They were great for a very short period.

@williamgatesenson

3 жыл бұрын

their use your illusion live era was pretty damn solid. yes it was a travelling circuis and no it was not the gritty band from sunset blvd, but it was a solid example of excess done right.

@broeheem2804

3 жыл бұрын

@@williamgatesenson - Not really. By that point, the Axhole Show had taken over...... synthesizers, piano ballads, guest vocals..... They were done after "Appetite".

@spencerglover1

2 жыл бұрын

@@broeheem2804 totally agree ......

@3aeren

2 жыл бұрын

@@broeheem2804 well said!

@richskl6631

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamgatesenson in truth the Use your illusion albums had a lot of filler material. They should have made one really great illusion record with only the best songs. Like the song get in the ring. I mean that was completely self indulgent, over produced and ordinary. That sums up much of the Illusion albums for me. Appetite was phenomenal. But with all the money, fame and success they lost focus.

Steve please come back

Slash was his childhood friend and he treats him like that ... it’s all driven by greed .

@MrAndychannon

3 жыл бұрын

Slash is a twat. It's why axl hated him.. he probably still does

@killjoy6391

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrAndychannon Slash is not a twat. axl loved to instigate fights, he hated everyone. slash was very chill and laidback, he didnt want anything to do with problems.

@4evrmind

3 жыл бұрын

slash really didn’t have a say in this. nor did Duff. or anybody else really, just Axl.

@Bklyn93

3 жыл бұрын

@@4evrmind Their management and the band all jointly agreed to fire Steven. It wasn't just Axl. Alan Niven was their manager from 1986-1991, and he's no fan of Axl's, and he said toward the end Slash and Duff were complaining all the time about Steven, that he wasn't playing the new songs the way they wanted them to be played. Axl, Slash, and Duff drove the decision to kick him out, and Izzy (still a part of the band and a partner in July 1990) agreed to it.

@4evrmind

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bklyn93 we can’t know for sure, we weren’t there. so whatever happened it’s now in the past. i don’t want to defend anybody but they probably had their rightful motives to fire steven, exactly like steven had his motives to complain about it. but as i said, we can’t know anything for sure.

They betrayed Stephen! They themselves are definitely not without sin! They wanted to leave him with nothing! Even during his time in the group he received the least

@zadiannelovessnakes8899

4 жыл бұрын

IKR!!!!!!!!!

@oliviapaul1981

4 жыл бұрын

The one thing no one listens to is that it wasn’t duff slash and izzy axl was the one to make all the decisions in that band and this decision he made was one of the worst he’s ever made

@Anabellelynnmusic

4 жыл бұрын

*Steven but YEAH

@dijon3240

4 жыл бұрын

steven betrayed everyone

@infectedpuddle9906

3 жыл бұрын

They split the profits evenly. No single member made more or less then anyone else.

I read his book. I enjoy biographies, particular rockstar bios. He was a mess, but man I really felt for him. And i think he was correct. What is missed in all of this was, he became a heroin addict in part because of the bands heroin use. Really, directly related. Axl was clean, but the rest of the band was right there with him doing drugs. So in essence, G&R caused him to become addicted to drugs, and then G&R tried to cut him out for being addicted....while they were addicted too. I partied back in my day. Not heroin, but any of us who have, know that all members in your partying group take turns pushing each other. Get this, do that, lets do that, can you find some? Now I have some. etc. What the band did was slightly clean up before him, leaving the poor guy behind, severely addicted. And in that moment while he was wasted, and they only slightly were better, made a power move. I felt they were so damn hypocritical. Like he was a POS, and they were saints. Nah...they went for it. tried to cut him out of the money because they saw him as too messed up to realize it. His mom really stepped up and looked out for him. They sent the same guy trying to help them to go to him to sign the agreement.

Kinda sounds like Slash had Steven’s back in this, first time seeing this, only seen Axl being questioned previously

How dare the court not let Slash wear his top hat!

@MarySmith-lv3mo

2 жыл бұрын

They didn't let Axl come to Court wearing only shoes, shorts, and a bandana either! They are DICTATORS! 🤣😉😏

@SolarflowerZ

20 күн бұрын

He wasn't really wearing at that time...

Well, 2020 and Steven looks better than Axl.

@diablodiablodiablo3827

3 жыл бұрын

@Gina uh, ok...

@Aaron-du9zo

3 жыл бұрын

@Gina you sound mad

@beauzer36

3 жыл бұрын

Lol what did Axl do to his face? Steven had a stroke and his face looks way better than that.

@yert1832

3 жыл бұрын

@@beauzer36 he had a surgery but not because he though he looked bad

@mightyjoebean

3 жыл бұрын

@Gina gina? more like vuh-gina lolol

i met duff in a strip bar called the marble arch in vancouver bc, he was so drunk he could not speak it was 1990

@Whothefuckdrivesastationwagon

3 жыл бұрын

I’m almost at the end of his book. He was drinking a massive amount. His pancreas ruptured and he turned his life around. He went training with Benny the Jet and cycled a lot on his mountain bike. I’ll buy Slash’s book next. They were one step away from the gutter when they started but kept going. I’m glad they did. I love the music. Especially Estranged and Coma.

@mrsx7944

2 жыл бұрын

@@Whothefuckdrivesastationwagon just finished slAsh's book. Reading Duffs next.

Out of all the guys in the band I would’ve never expected Slash to sell out on his Steven his literal vest friend😔 Dont get me wrong this man is MY IDOL, he’s literally the reason I even considered picking up a guitar in the first place, but I can’t stand with Saul on this one... He sold Steven out! The only reason why they kicked him out of the band was because his drug use was effecting the way he played, but Slash shouldn’t sit there & act oblivious considering the fact that he was most likely still on heroin at this time too! The only difference between Slash & Stevens drug addiction was that Slash was still able to play while high & Steven literally couldn’t... idk man I’m just saying maybe Slash should’ve tried a little more to help his “best friend” it just seems crazy that him and the band ganged up on Steven & kicked him out for something that mostly everyone in that band partaken in. Sad.🤧

@HunniTeez

4 жыл бұрын

Yea I kinda agree with you, but who knows what was going on behind the scenes.

@warinmymind

4 жыл бұрын

yeah i get what you mean because they were best friends but we don't really know the full story. dealing with a drug addict when you're one too can lead to a LOT of different things.

@randywissler9923

4 жыл бұрын

Which is truly fucked up, cuz just a few years later, they were all out of the band, except Axl of course. Hindsight is 20/20!!

@janschinkel

3 жыл бұрын

True, but at that time no one could think straight.. They had to find steven next to a toilet more than once, and he couldnt play anything.. This descision was not made overnight. I do really like Stevens playing though, and he seems one of the sweetest guys ever. This all is just very sad

@sam8404

3 жыл бұрын

In reply to your last sentence: they didn't kick him out because he did drugs, they kicked him out because he let it affect his playing.

Weren't they all doing heroine?

@masonxavierparker

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah lmao

@chewingbugs

3 жыл бұрын

yeah, but steven couldn’t play he was so high, i think everyone else was on heroin just not as much

@infectedpuddle9906

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone but Axl....

@aus-rider

3 жыл бұрын

@@infectedpuddle9906 you are kidding yourself, axl duff and slash were still doing heroin with the others right up to when Izzy left

@infectedpuddle9906

3 жыл бұрын

@@aus-rider Wow, you really don't know shit about this band do you? Slash Izzy and Steven were all doing heroin until 1990 when Izzy went sober after being arrested on an airplane for pissing in the isle. Duff dispised heroin due to his experiences with friends who he watched get strung out in Seattle and two of his best friends die of OD back to back. Duff was a drinker who eventually took up coke just so he could drink more. Axl did some drugs in their Hollywood days but was never big on anything heavy. After they got signed Axl was all about the band and threatened to break the band up on multiple occasions if they didn't clean up their act.

Getting kicked out by Guns'n'Roses for taking too many drugs is like getting kicked out by ManCity for shooting too many goals

@duanedavidson7219

3 жыл бұрын

err no, more like getting kicked out of mancity for quaffing to many Duffs

God i fucking miss the 90s If when I get to heaven and God grants me one request, I would use it to go back and live 1990-1999 for eternity

@AngSingha

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds like hell to me

@4evrmind

3 жыл бұрын

i would love to live in the 80s

@duncan3998

3 жыл бұрын

@@AngSingha Nah, hell is the modern days. 90s was pure sacredness.

This is ridiculous, they were all crazy who could barely do what had to be done, but they all decided to focus on Adler, imagine you believe in your "friends" and they do it with you Poor Adler

@deckard2665

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree. Firing Adler was the beginning of the end for Guns n' Roses. It began a slow decay and eventual implosion that left the band unrecognizable with only one member left. Was a shame and a disgrace how it happened.

@timeswehadwewonthaveagain6980

3 жыл бұрын

@@deckard2665 and they return years later because money was owed and sold out arenas world wide.. people can be suckers..

@4evrmind

3 жыл бұрын

slash and duff didn’t have a say in this

@themadrapper101

2 жыл бұрын

The others could play and record through Steven couldn't at that time

Never saw this clip before.

@4evrmind

3 жыл бұрын

same

@duncan3998

3 жыл бұрын

It's a hidden gem from 1993

Go to your settings on your phone and turn on Mono Audio,It plays in both ears

@duncan3998

3 жыл бұрын

this benefits in the future for me

If you're so drugged out you don't understand the staying sober agreement to be in the band...well maybe you definitely shouldn't be in the band! Lol. How much simpler can it get?

@jomesias

3 жыл бұрын

Technically, you must be in all of your senses, with legal counsel and without coercion for a contract to be valid. Actually it does make sense he didn’t even know what the heck he was signing if he was on heroine. (The other bandmates said he was always using so when he signed he must’ve been flying) Who would sign it if you knew you would get fired? They couldn’t fire him if he refused to sign, so it does make sense that he was claiming the contract was null and void 🎸🎸 just by him not having legal counsel when signing is very sneaky and probably on purpose. A tragic story

@reginaldperiwinkle

3 жыл бұрын

There is something simpler: help out a friend when they're in trouble, instead of looking out for yourself and trying to make more money.

@Bklyn93

3 жыл бұрын

@@reginaldperiwinkle They'd tried for a whole year to help him out. They'd sent him to rehab multiple times in 1989 which is why you had Don Henley on drums at the American Music Awards in 1989. He was in rehab, then, and it didn't work. He was sent to rehab AGAIN in the spring of 1990 and had to have Duff guiding him with the tempo at Farm Aid in April 1990. According to their producer Mike Clink it took him 90 takes to get a workable drum track for Civil War and the drum track had to be spliced from the best takes.

@reginaldperiwinkle

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bklyn93 They got him to sign a contract while he going through a bad addiction in which he gave away his rights to work he had already done with the band. First, even if they didn't want him in the band, they didn't need to do that. It's wrong to try to screw somebody out of what they contributed to. Second, everyone knows you can't sign a contract with someone who doesn't have capacity -- like with someone who is too drunk or too high. It wasn't like they gathered their lawyers together and negotiated. They shoved a contract in front of Steven's face when he was messed up and got him to sign. That's slimy.

Steve was the swing, I don’t give a fuck how big the band got, he had a swing on those drums THATS awesome.

I feel so bad, just because of an addiction ? that's dumb. it's like getting kicked out of a bed for sleeping.

@ngrp27

Жыл бұрын

Have you ever being in a band or a family member with a drug addition?

@dvnissecn

Жыл бұрын

@@ngrp27 actually yes

GNR and legal issues go hand in hand.cant have one without the other.

@carmineredd1198

3 жыл бұрын

like peanut butter and meatballs

for everyone saying slash shouldn’t have sold steven out, you have to think of this scenario in his point of view. slash was literally watching his best friend fall deeper and deeper, taking so many drugs he’s on the verge of killing himself. it was probably hard for him to watch steve go through that. slash definitely didn’t want to lose steve because that was obviously his best friend, someone whom he cared about deeply. when it came to court, you think slash would cover for steve just so he could stay in the band and fall even deeper? slash wanted steven to better himself, so he wouldn’t lose him. slash “sold” steven out so steven would finally understand and try to get sober. if slash hadn’t told the truth, stevie probably wouldn’t be here today. think about that.

I remember when this happened. Slash and Izzy were using Heroin as well, Duff used to drink a lot and later on, he found out that if he snorted some Cocaine, that helped him to sober up, so that he could drink even more without passing out...but I don't know when he started to use Cocaine. Anyway... I've heard/read about how they went to a studio to start recording the drum parts on the Illusion albums and how Steven took forever just to record the drums for Civil War but was this the real or the only reason why they kicked him out? The reason (or one of the reasons) why Steven was kicked out was because Axl couldn't stand him. Apparently, Axl's wife or girlfriend back then, Erin Everly, she was partying with Steven and at some point, she took a little too much Heroin and passed out. Steven had the brilliant idea to inject her with some Cocaine, hoping this would wake her up... This is what Axl claimed in some interview, that Steven almost killed her and since then, he couldn't stand him. Of course, I wasn't there, this is what Axl claimed but it wouldn't surprise me and this would explain why he hated Steven so much and why Steven was kicked out when both Slash and Izzy were also using smack.

@jaymunday100

3 жыл бұрын

You can't be in a band if you can't even play your Instrument anymore.

@joehobbs3277

3 жыл бұрын

Well seeing how much BS axel and his ex wife or gf came out with them it’s all an excuse at the end of the day yes at the time Steven was probably more dependent on heroine then the other members were but look at the band after during the illusion tour slash overdoses in the hotel suprise suprise using heroine so he’s no saint duff later has a death scare etc so should any of them be saying how bad Steve was? No anyway from what I hear life for him was terrible after he left GNR they never talked about him didn’t bother checking to see if he was ok nope they were to busy fuleing addictions

He was the best drummer they had - what a shame he was such a mess ...

Sorem was a bad fit. How many times can a drummer do the same damn fill in November Rain, plus he was a robot among a group of living breathing artists.

I wanted to see the continuation of this video, with more testimony from Steven.

The contract was determined to be voidable and then voided in court because Steven was under the influence when he signed it

@red149

3 жыл бұрын

Steven was always under the influence so when were they supposed to ask him to sign it ? 😂😂😂

@tennised2283

3 жыл бұрын

@@red149 That's the dilemma for someone like yourself; you can't violate someone's rights just because they are inebriated, even if you really, really want to, lol Contract law is contract law; it applies equally to everyone. I am not defending it, merely stating the facts

@red149

3 жыл бұрын

@@tennised2283 i know man , it was a joke referring to the point that Steven was 24/7 under the influence back in those days 😂😂

@tennised2283

3 жыл бұрын

@@red149 haha, I am a little slow sometimes...

Oooh so that guy David Chodos was Steven's lawyer? That explains everything in that Axl video.

thats like getting kicked out of a bar for drinking💀

I know 99% of people won't read this comment, but to the 1% have a blessed day.

@man_vs_life

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers my man. To you too.

@stfu5617

3 жыл бұрын

Thats nice thanks. You too

You are a gunner Steven!!! Only 5 people in history could say that.

@4evrmind

3 жыл бұрын

yes!

Sorry, when your drug use prevents you from doing your job, you get fired. There is no one else to blame.

Yes i would love to see it.wonder who would be actors for the parts..

where can i find the entire court case on youtube? i only see when axl is talking.

They were all protecting their addictions from Axl's ego and threw Adler into the fire to protect themselves

@theolynncarpenter4613

3 жыл бұрын

LOL COMPLETELY NOT TRUE. I WAS REALLY CLOSE TO THEM. I WAS STAYING AT DUFF'S DURING THIS TIME. THE PROBLEM WAS, STEVEN WAS DOING WAY MORE DRUGS AND MORE SELF DESTRUCTIVE. TO THE POINT HE WAS MISSING REHEARSALS, AND NON FUNCTIONAL IF HE MADE IT. HW COULDN'T GET THROUGH A SONG! PLUS SLASH HAD BEEN DOING WELL AFTER HE WENT TO REHAB IN HAWAII. AND AXL WASN'T DOING ANYTHING ANYMORE. DUFF WAS DRINKING AND GILBY DIZZY AND MATT WERE SO HAPPY TO HAVE THE GIG THEY WERE ON THEIR BEST BEHAVIOR! YEAH THEY PARTIED, BUT RESPONSIBLY NONE OF THEM WERE DOING HEROIN BESIDES STEVEN AT THAT POINT. THEY HAD BECOME GOOD BUSINESS MEN BELIEVE IT OR NOT SINCE 90/91! I REMEMBER WHEN BILL COSBY SENT A LETTER TELLING THEM THEY NEED TO STOP USING PROFANITY AND DONATE TO CERTAIN CHARITIES ETC LMFAO! DUFF WAS LIKE " IM SURPRISED BILL COSBY EVEN KNOWS WHO I AM" 😂😂😂 BUT FUCK HIM!! ANYWAY, STEVEN WAS BY NO MEANS THROWN UNDER A BUS. HE WAS AN INCOHERENT MESS. SADLY, HE COULDN'T FUNCTION.

@pjfdourley4998

3 жыл бұрын

Theolynn Carpenter it can’t be completely not true , I left quite a lot of leyway in there . So it wasn’t true that the rest of them weren’t on drugs , it wasn’t true that they were hiding it from Axl, it wasn’t true that Axl had a big ego , what is ‘completely’ not true

@normanchamings8156

3 жыл бұрын

The difference was the others could handle their habit, Adler had no control.

@pjfdourley4998

3 жыл бұрын

norman chamings nobody can handle a habit , look my point is , Adler might have outwardly off the rails but if you look at the bigger picture , they all set up the environment for Adler to get off his tits , Axl withdrew and started turning up 3 hours late , slash and duff were hiding the stress behind drugs and alcohol, not to mention Izzy. I think what you mean is , Adler could no longer play . That is a problem but they were the biggest band in the world at one point , shit was going to hit the fan .

@normanchamings8156

3 жыл бұрын

@@pjfdourley4998 No. What I meant was Adler was, and is, a loose cannon. He's an embarrassment.

Nobody pays me if I can't do my job.

No drummer can do their job properly strung out on heroin. However, Steven, not understanding what he signed, doesn't change the fact that he was warned several times to clean up he didn't. The firing was justified with or without the contract. I think they should have re-hired him if he got himself cleaned up, because he did have a feel that was hard to replicate. Matt Sorum is a great drummer, but it was never the same without Steven. Thankfully, he eventually got clean and is alive and doing well.

Where do we go now?

@duncan3998

3 жыл бұрын

Paradise city

Compare how GnR treated Steve to the Def Leppard situation.... These guys abandoned their friend.

Is this the first and only time slash has showed his eyes ?

Must be hilarious to be kicked out GNR for taking too much heroine, while Slash and Duff veins were full of it

They were all junkies in 80s. Mr Brownstone is nickname for a heroin. Also they were trashed by nightrain all the time. Appetite is their best album cause they were a family in the same sht while recording it. After they reach succes,Axl became primadona while rest of the group remains the same. Thats why he later on got rid off all of them.

First time seeing this and I've been listening to gnr since 2003. Only ever seen axl in court

For a band that still probably makes millions and millions what is is 4 or 5 million?! C,mon don't be assholes, just gave the man is money!!!!

It’s almost like after ‘94 the world just wasn’t the same and would never be again

And slash later overdosed and died. Isn't it ironic. They brought him back from the dead.

@kierad479

3 жыл бұрын

What are you talking about??

@demigoregirl

3 жыл бұрын

@@kierad479 ye slash overdosed on drugs back in the 90s and almost died. If you don’t believe me then look it up.

@margaridacosta270

3 жыл бұрын

Slash overdose in 92 i think

Back before Slash kept the top hat on 24/7 to hide his baldness.   REPLY

@MarySmith-lv3mo

2 жыл бұрын

To be honest, the person in Guns N'Roses that I thought was going bald was Axl because of his Bandana. I thought Axl used the Bandana to hide his bald spots. It turns out, Axl didn't have bald spots, he used the Bandana to keep his hair out of his face, which makes sense.

I think it's all funny. We make comments like we know. Or what we think we read or heard. We don't know if that's even right. None of us were part of the 5 band members. Only they would. And if anyone thinks that these guys were telling the truth. They don't even know that was. Truth. They were kids There life was coming at them so fast and faster. It's all a flash to them. From clubs days. To the big time. Don't kid your self it was a good flash even in those clubs days to. They were big in the LA area. I think the only thing we know is that they become a non original band after 2 album. Two big ones to. Then EGO'S became bigger then the band. And I think it's still there. " EGO'S." Not playing with izzy and Steven. There still alive. So they should be playing on "not in this lifetime tour." They should be calling it ." The non original lifetime tour " So for me there still not original. So matter what you hear from this campsite. For the most part. A big pile of poppy.

@Rob-dp3vr

3 жыл бұрын

Oh jesus, you waltz in here to lecture people on internet commenting? What a turd.

@scottmcclure4153

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rob-dp3vr options there like butt holes .everyone got one . Turd. Hard for me to believe you read it al.l

@billyz5088

3 жыл бұрын

Even among a group of sober people - memories can differ greatly on what the group members think happened between them. Lawyers will always tell you that so-called "eyewitness testimony" can often be completely wrong. These guys were on a par with mid to late 70's Black Sabbath in terms of their drug & alcohol consumption. Whatever they remember about certain events is almost certainly colored by biases and personality conflicts.

30 days in not enough time to clean up !!

Nossa, que louco, nem imaginava que tinha um conteúdo desses na internet.

@cristina3976

3 жыл бұрын

esses dias atrás vi legendado, dá uma pesquisada :)

@cristina3976

3 жыл бұрын

aqui achei kzread.info/dash/bejne/aGyEu5qadNi0krg.html

its so uncomfortable listening this with only my left ear

Italian spaghetti 🍝!

@duncan3998

3 жыл бұрын

Not so yummy

Putting slash on the stage like some choir boy after firing Stephen was so hilarious considering he is who Nikki six was doing heroin w when he was pronounced dead for several minutes!

*...No sound on my iPhone*

That was so lame i was bummed as a kid

My ear

4 to 10 million dollars wow do you know how much heroin you can buy with that .

meanwhile the rest of the band were drug addicts and alcoholics, but let's screw steven out of his cut. adler may have been useless, and getting rid of him was justified, but cutting him out of the work he did do was dirty, and it failed.

This was the worst! GnR was my band when they first came out but after getting rid of Steven my friends and I never went to another show! Adler was the coolest guy in that band..!

come on, give Steve some money so his mom can quit waiting tables at Brents

That's not not the real slash....Where is his hat and glasses

Brandon Lee's death in the last frame

@JakeLo1991

Жыл бұрын

Where can we find the full E! report? Black girl in the last frame.

Its weird to see slash in a court😅

I’m sorry 😞 but this is kind of funny. 😆

Slash 😂😂😂😂

Steve was fired because - well the real reason was he tried to fix some heroin for Erin Everly and I’m good friends with the ones who tried to get her heart beating again so at least from their first hand story it seems he was fired for messing with Erin - Axl was major pissed.

Sad pages of GnR histoty 🥲

hypocrites all of em. Slash was a junkie early on with heroine and coke till the end, the others were alchoholics and cocaine addicts, Axl was smoking weed like normal person breathes air to keep himself sedated and they pointed their finger on Adler... great bunch

Snaking his royalties is what that corporate rock band was up to. They aren't pirates ask Izzy. That's why he quit. "All of those songs on appetite to illusions were wrote around Adler's groove. Just listen to Mr. Brownstone" -Izzy

Glad Adler got his fair share.

Did Steven get the $?

@matthewgray1115

3 жыл бұрын

And blew it on more heroin

I love Axl so much but being so hypocritical to kick Popcorn out for being addicted when Duff and Slash were addicted too is just pathetic. 

Take a look a Stephen and then tell me, that this guy is not beyond the "line".

Axel never liked Steve Adler.

@round105

3 жыл бұрын

Hey liked him at the beginning, the problem came around when Steven started to play while also fucked up. So around that time they had a band meeting and they decided to clean up their act. Guns n roses would be "sober" when they recorded and played live gigs. I mean they still abused drugs and booze, but steven would show up high and wouldn't be able to lay down the tracks for the album. Which if I'm not mistaken was the first use your illusion album. Also steven got into some business with some bad people and slash and duff would try to help him but would find heroin in his house. Eventually they knew that they couldn't really help him.

@MarySmith-lv3mo

2 жыл бұрын

Your right. Axel didn't like Steven Adler. But, Axl liked Steven. 😏😉 Don't worry. I at first thought his name was Axel too. 😉😏

The BEST DRUMMER G,n,R,,Ever Had,,,,And HE SHOULD B IN The So Called ,,,REUNION,,,,, If Waxl an Slash Want To See What A REUNION Looks Like,,,They Should Look at The BAND HELLOWEEN, Now That's a ,,,REUNION,.

I actually HAVE Steven's set of drums! The set of Black Pearl's. I got it from my uncle whom had a drummer named Bernie whom was a childhood friend with him! Also have a set of sticks from the drummer from RATT

Man I really love Steven Adler's hair

I think this fella should have gotten support and help from family and friends!!

Communicated the best they could.. 'Yeah hes screwed up enough to not know'- $la$h

Key to his sacking: despite their addiction the others showed up, brilliantly, for the Use Your Illusion recordings. Adler could not.

They took advantage of a drug addict. But in the end they gave him 2.5 million plus his songwriting future earnings. Everyone happy again.

Seems some people in this world everything good falls while other beg for scraps in the street.

Kasusnya apa ya

Adler fucked it up. Thats it. Totally lost control.

You broke your foot