Watership Down is a cute children’s movie. *but wait* *it’s not*

@VVen0m

5 жыл бұрын

This made me laugh SO HARD! XDDDDD

@ruethechosenone5197

5 жыл бұрын

Watership Down is a cute children’s movie. but wait there's gore

@peridorkster2634

5 жыл бұрын

słeepypiłłs lol

@Insanity_TM

5 жыл бұрын

👹 666 likes

@r3alysys26

4 жыл бұрын

No u

*But Wait, It's Not*

@wienerschnitzel1739

5 жыл бұрын

*But Wait, It is*

@abdel-azizs5720

5 жыл бұрын

But Wait, it's Not

@brycevo

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the ♥️

@rE-vc5ql

5 жыл бұрын

I see you everywhere

@jaistar4695

5 жыл бұрын

Now if only we could get the Animals of farthing wood season 1-3 remake

In the book it’s actually both claims that the original movie and remake have on the need for Does, They needed them because they would need future generations and yeah they needed them because their claws were built to create nests. Bucks legitimately don’t have the claws for digging they’re for fighting.

@taurastones9534

3 жыл бұрын

Riley Keefer it would have been interesting tho if they added both reasons, like first they said they need to carry on their future generations so they need does. But that idea was ignored but later when they try and dig their nest they realize they really do need them. I dunno just thought since you mentioned the book had both it would have been interesting to seen both

@gvtterslag

3 жыл бұрын

I was looking to see if this would get mentioned.

@Crosbhealach

3 жыл бұрын

There's also the tv series..

@roogarou_5968

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. While they needed to add both reasons, the first, showing them trying to dig is true. Does are built for digging more the bucks. I raise rabbits and I never put my does in a yard tracker because they will dig out while my bucks never do. Also, does are alot more territorial with other does.

@Cowgutz

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it makes sense

General Woundwarts last words 1987: "Dogs Aren't dangerous!" 2018: "I fear nothing"

@rogue3186

3 жыл бұрын

Personally I perfer the 2018 but if you like a good meme the 1987

@sad_boi_razor8983

3 жыл бұрын

hi Kokichi- that's- kinda ironic coming from you... or something... there's a word for it I'm just too sleep-deprived to find it.

@Esplodiamoinallegria

3 жыл бұрын

1978

@sad_boi_razor8983

3 жыл бұрын

@Captain Bruh I used to be a Celestia Ludenburg roleplayer gimmie a break-

@sad_boi_razor8983

3 жыл бұрын

@Captain Bruh I can't it's in my blood!!!!! [chaotic laughter]

*_I'm pretty sure the real winner of this battle is the ORIGINAL BOOK itself. It's way better than the two._*

@huorderedthisbigmactaollbe9029

5 жыл бұрын

Normies these days paying attention to the anime and live action adaption when they should be focusing on the manga.

@CrAzYGAMINGWOLF

5 жыл бұрын

@@huorderedthisbigmactaollbe9029 I prefer to watch the anime, but the manga is good as well, fuck the live action ghost in the shell

@joeytheslimeboi8900

5 жыл бұрын

Massachusetts Mapping & Elevators not with ready player one

@laciehinds7768

5 жыл бұрын

Friendship oh great, your that type of asshole eh?

@laciehinds7768

5 жыл бұрын

Massachusetts Mapping & Elevators *Cough* The Shining *Cough*

Peter Rabbit + War = Watership down Edit: didn’t expect this to get so many likes thanks people!

@SheWolf_Warrior

5 жыл бұрын

Lol

@luckyluke-ni9ml

5 жыл бұрын

Lol

@samoneill6733

5 жыл бұрын

Lol

@hunkbaloni960

5 жыл бұрын

Lol

@pajhawkishahaismhee2999

5 жыл бұрын

Lol

Another detail that bothered me personally was that fact that in the CG. The rabbits design look more like hares than actual bunnies.

@KlutzyNinjaKitty

3 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure that’s because the rabbits in the remake are always standing tall kinda like a jackrabbit. Actual rabbits do a kind of hop-then-sit thing and are bunched up as opposed to standing.

@anna-maria6266

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@vince3523

3 жыл бұрын

What is the difference between hares and rabbits

@SummonerDagger88

3 жыл бұрын

@@vince3523 Rabbits are smaller and cuter

@vince3523

3 жыл бұрын

@@SummonerDagger88 but isn't there a breed of rabbit that's huge?

“that's a bloody epic scene“ well yeah, it sure is bloody.

@DabriciusFabricius

2 жыл бұрын

@@dogeggsofficial you do know it was a joke right?

@dogeggsofficial

2 жыл бұрын

@@DabriciusFabricius Could either be a dumb person or someone making a joke

@ThatOneKaijuFan

Жыл бұрын

*But Wait, It’s Not*

As a traditional animator who refuses to give up her paper and pencils (and paints), I appreciate you recognizing how just making something CGI doesn't improve it. The original is one of the best animated films ever made. In re-watching it, I was stunned at the focus on all the GORGEOUS watercolor backgrounds and the intense atmosphere they create.

@lyneismydogsnamenow

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you so much. I used to study in 2D animatiom exactly for these reasons. The feels and scents of paper and pencils in your hands, the flow of lines creating the scene,... even CGI will never recreate such emotions, such connections with traditional touch.

@astrowolvez

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that cgi looks fucking awful.

@MeepChangeling

2 жыл бұрын

@@lyneismydogsnamenow I genuinely despise you elitists who shit all over a medium simply because you personally do not enjoy it, nor understand the depth and breadth of skill it takes to craft. You are no different from people who mock fantasy novelists because genera fiction is 'easy'. Take up a tablet. Try and make a ball bounce using 3d modeling and animation. Do it in any style you like, just make it good. That's it. No background. No character. One ball. Of any kind. Bouncing off the ground. Go ahead. Try.

@nyancat.123

2 жыл бұрын

CG /=/ bad The animator's skill is

@Breakaway-ic5gj

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the film industry, where the higher the effort, the lower the art is worth

I liked that they added Woundort's backstory as a kind of nod to the book, but they kind of missed the point of it's existence. Here's the full story: He used to live alone with his mother, father, and siblings near a house with a vegetable garden, and his father would occasionally raid it to get Flayrah for his family. Until one day the man living in this house decides he's had enough. He kills Woundwort's father and then goes for the rest of the family. The mother tries to escape with her kits, but Woundwort is the only one able to keep up. Later a weasel comes and kills his mother right in front of him. A little while later a human comes and raises him, in the safety of a house, far from any danger (sound familiar?) But he still grew up very wild and eventually escaped. Personally, I think this backstory wasn't there to make us feel for Woundwort, but more so to show his filosophy. It's true that he was taking a lot of rabbits' freedom from them, but he was also keeping them safe. His trauma, combined with his hunger for power, drove him into believing he was doing the right thing. Woundwort was mad, and it was this madness that drove him to his (possible) death. Thank you for listening to me rambling on about fictional rabbits.

@deim1nk419

4 жыл бұрын

Mysterious Kitten I’ve seen you in four different comment sections in the last day and a half Why are you everywhere I’m honestly scared

@EarlyOwOwl

4 жыл бұрын

@@deim1nk419 damn this was back when I was taking commenting seriously. I made sure to get to the videos early and leave a funny or witty comment to make sure people saw me. They did. I got a lot of likes on a lot of different videos. Sadly, my Reign of Terror has ended since then :(

@deim1nk419

4 жыл бұрын

Mysterious Kitten it’s cool that you’re able to comment so often though, I’m trying to do the same but it’s not really working :/

@EarlyOwOwl

4 жыл бұрын

@@deim1nk419 yeah. It's a mix of luck, timing, and how much people like your comment. I think I just got really lucky. It was awesome tho.

@yeetyote87

4 жыл бұрын

So Woundwort is Dark Peter Rabbit?

The death of Violet in the 1978 version bothers the hell out of me because in the book, it was incredibly important that none of the rabbits died on their journey, which is what gave them such high confidence that they could achieve things like breaking the rabbits out of the barn and infiltrating Effrafa because they felt that fate was on their side.

@IDKIDKIDK300

Жыл бұрын

“Violets gone 😬”

@talkingweevil3172

3 ай бұрын

It felt so pointless that violet was even there 😂

Since its now on Netflix as a ,,Orignal" now i can easily say: Manga: the Book Anime: the animated Film Netflix adaptation: the 2018 miniseries

@milotic4243

3 жыл бұрын

Dear god...

@milotic4243

3 жыл бұрын

Sry man, gotta meme this

@firaxolegirein9816

3 жыл бұрын

That is too accurate to have the right to exist

I can STILL hear the ghost rabbits... "WE COULDN'T GET OUT." "A FUNNY SOUND, A HISSING, THEN THE AIR TURNED SOUR" "DEAD BODIES BLOCKED THE ESCAPES" All of these lines and their delivery are burned into my memory.

@SpicyCoffee

5 жыл бұрын

Same..... I get nightmares.....

@karnivorevolpe5344

5 жыл бұрын

YES..horrible ones xP this movie deeply scarred me for a long time

@shoshitaketakeyani3275

4 жыл бұрын

Great childhood memories

@theinternalkiller

3 жыл бұрын

quality entertainment 10/10 would recommend for children of all ages! (seriously this freaked me out in highschool and still haunts me as an adult).

@ImBlueDaBaDeeDaBaDaa

3 жыл бұрын

theinternalkiller This traumatized me as a five year old, and I have a fear of rabbits to this day two decades later. Also get flashbacks, and want to cry at any clip I see of it.

I don't really see showing Woundwort's sad backstory as a problem. It doesn't justify his actions or make us feel sympathy for him. It simply explains why he is the way he is.

@tkyng2885

2 жыл бұрын

The Woundwort in the Tv series has a better one. It actually shows why he wants to be in control and hates men The new one didn’t make sense to me. If he warned everyone about the Fox they would still be alive,if he ran away from the warren then the rest would be alive. The only reason he hates humans because they made him a “Hutch rabbit”

@osmanyousif7849

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but you can do this without showing this, like take Colonel Kurtz from Apocalypse Now. We know that he's he villain of the story and just by the way he shows no mercy and brutally kills the main character Willard's team mates and forced to watch what Kurtz does, shows that hate he have for him but while at this time Kurtz monologues on the horrors of war showing why he does what he does, despite it not being justified for what he's just doing to Willard, which is why Willard decides in the end that Kurtz must die. The concept of the villain is that a villain must be shown what they are and what they do here. Martin Scorsese is responsible for one of my favorite quotes, "Cinema is a matter of what's in the frame and what's not.", which basically means what you choose to not show is as important as what you do. And since the villain is someone who is not only ruthless, but shows a very fatal belief system, think a better way to go was to maybe during one of his moments where he has the character at his paws or is giving a speech to his his followers this is where all the moments of learning who the character is should be, just as long as they don't overdo it. but get into enough, just like Colonel Kurtz.

@sophieisanostrich1461

2 жыл бұрын

I am very happy someone said that!

@shalikrox9720

2 жыл бұрын

In the book Woundwort's family was killed by man not a fox and it helped play into the bigger theme of man's destruction of everything around it and it also tells how he set up the warren and shows the psychological side of the messed up reality he created without ever making you think he would have a redemption arc, even though he has what you would call a tragic backstory the author leaves no room for sympathy or redemption and then when you're done with the story he seems to have be a little off even before his family dies and it's strongly hinted that he isn't actually killed. They never find a body and they straight up say that they think he's out there still because he's not the kind to die but he won't(probably) come back because he knows he can't win.

@Sinshana

2 жыл бұрын

Yup thats exactly right. A lot of media does this successfully, humanizing a villain but NOT justifying their actions. You dont have to downplay the villainy or anything like that, in fact its great writing if they manage to draw sympathy for an absolutely irredeemable character because it makes the audience feel conflicted or go through a rollercoaster of motions. Complex characters are good and are way more interesting that one-note villains.

I think the reason they said that bucks “can’t” dig is because in the original book, Bigwig (I think; it may have been one of the others) says that digging is “for does”. Then Adams side notes later that bucks only scrape when they need to, while does do a lot of the digging for their kits. So, they didn’t make it up, they just used it as an excuse so they didn’t have to mention “reproduction” in the movie. So, still a dumb reason 😂

@wiktorialyzwinska8039

3 жыл бұрын

Well yes but Bigwig mentions that if they won't get any females they are going to start fighting, mostly for dominance which could point out the reproduction

@wolfrodger8998

2 жыл бұрын

Paraphrase from the book "Buck don''t dig, not can't but don't. Not in any serious way."

@rangerlovee3324

2 жыл бұрын

real rabbits, females do most of the digging. its not that males cant... its just that females do it most of the time & more extensively. i dont understand why they have to use that reason. the major point the group would want females is to reproduce. period.

@rikkun6815

2 жыл бұрын

So, they rather had Bigwig spew sexist nonsense than make the faintest hint at how baby bunnies are made. Lol.

@lucigoo4529

2 жыл бұрын

But then they did dig, the created the Warren before the does arrived.

"Kehaar is based on a soldier from the Norwegian Resistance during World War II." Thus the accent. He's based on a soldier that Richard Adams knew during WWII.

Growing up I always thought that the Animals of Farthing Wood was set in the same place as Watership Down

@user-xo7hl1mu9t

5 жыл бұрын

it really feels like it

@luckyluke-ni9ml

5 жыл бұрын

Lol that's pretty funny but unlikely that the books were written by the same person I will have to look it up.

@thunderchild1083

5 жыл бұрын

lucky luke1983 they are written by different people, the fact that in both of them they have to leave because of humans building where they live always made me think they were set in the same place as a child

@luckyluke-ni9ml

5 жыл бұрын

@@thunderchild1083 well that makes. You something funny when the first farthing wood book was release in 1979 people said it was a water ship down ripoff then then the 1999 tv series came out that was a ripoff of farthing wood 1993 series. How ironic.

@luckyluke-ni9ml

5 жыл бұрын

@@84cch when?

Hazel: Clover! Clover: Who's that? Hazel: It's me, we're back. Clover: Hazel~! Me: DAMN get a ROOM you two!

@metroplier8392

4 жыл бұрын

They have no relationships in the old movie

@thejudge.2745

4 жыл бұрын

Wow, This is some 18+ content.

@ch.illmatic

4 жыл бұрын

Woah calm down that's some explicit stuff right there

@ironwoodnf9128

4 жыл бұрын

My mom said I'm not allowed to watch KZread because she read your comment and said it was lewd and obscene ☹️

@Glaivemistake

4 жыл бұрын

@@ironwoodnf9128 f

Grandma: *I think I’ll get this on DVD for my grandson, it looks cute.* Grandson: *(screaming in horror)*

@MissMaja24

2 жыл бұрын

That was literally me at 6 years old 🤣🤣 Except I wasn't horrified it was my favorite movie

@horuho245

2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't it be the opposite? The original book was released in the 70s

@MissMaja24

2 жыл бұрын

@@horuho245 I don't have the book, I want to get it though ☺️

@sarahvanrooyen7280

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

7:40 That is actually a freaking irl fact that wasn’t just put in there for plot convenience. Female rabbits are normally the ones who dig the burrows because males are crap at it.

@matthewfranks2198

7 ай бұрын

That doesn’t make much sense

@G.oliath

7 ай бұрын

@@matthewfranks2198 take that up with mother nature man, and it does, gender dimorphism in nature goes deeper than brighter and darker colors and what they got between their legs. They're just prone to digging, and being better at it. its instinct.

@zenmaster8826

6 ай бұрын

@@matthewfranks2198 It’s nature.. it doesn’t care if it makes sense to you 🤡

@AroAceFroggie

6 ай бұрын

@@matthewfranks2198 Nature is confusing. Does have instincts and claws for digging while bucks have instincts and claws for fighting

@JM-gd3hr

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, males dig as well but females tend to dig more

Woundwort's backstory exists because he's supposed to be an extremist who originally had a point. His original goal to protect others is admirable but then he twists it into an authoritarian regime and it all goes downhill from there. Without it, he's just a two-note character. Same reason he, in the book, briefly considers Hazel's offer.

@TheQalax

5 жыл бұрын

Ye. The final showdown was well executed. If they had added any flashbacks like Steve here suggested it would have ruined it. I thought showing the fox attack in the beginning of the episode was just enough information we needed. The whole thing felt like it was Woundworts story in the end, for me.

@gabrielanthony1129

Жыл бұрын

Even though he was a “two note” character, as you describe, he was still far more memorable because of how evil and cruel and ruthless he was in the original film. The remake tried to humanize him too much and that took away from the mystery of the character l. He didn’t need a backstory. What made him so scary in the original was because we didn’t know what turned him so evil, and to us he was just cruel for no reason. The remake tried to make the viewers sympathetic and understanding of Woundwort and that just ruins the character imo. We’re supposed to fear woundwort, not feel sorry for him

As to the "bucks don't dig" - this is used in the novel to show how forward thinking Hazel's warren is. It's established practice that bucks will usually only dig a short scrape for shelter, but actual burrows are dug by the does when they are having kittens. So Blackberry (always the clever one) reasons that they need to do things differently - if they're going to make a go of living on Watership Down they'll have to try new things. The bucks come together to dig the Honeycomb, with the idea of basing some of the design on Cowslip's great warren. And it's a great success - they dig out the warren themselves. (Strawberry gets a lot of the credit as helping to design the warren). It's only after they've finished the whole warren that they realise they need does, to continue the warren after they've gone.

@thegreatbeanie6610

5 жыл бұрын

Showsni awesome finally someone gets that!!!!!!!!

@Michael-yl2iq

5 жыл бұрын

I don't remember a female rabbit in the book prior to their attempts to find does.

@north-roadcaveman5818

5 жыл бұрын

@@Michael-yl2iq in the '78 movie their only doe gets swooped up by a large bird, not sure if that's in the book

@Michael-yl2iq

5 жыл бұрын

@@north-roadcaveman5818 Been awhile, but I remember reading it maybe 40 years ago and Strawberry was a male and they had no does when they reached their down. That is why they needed to get does.

@BigBeerus

4 жыл бұрын

Also in nature male rabbits can't dig worth fuck

I'm kindoff ashamed of myself because I actually cry when people criticize the original because I love it a bit too much 😅

@deusexrockina

3 жыл бұрын

Same I think it's a masterpiece

I can't help but wonder if you've ever actually read the book. A lot of the things you're perplexed by in the remake are actually misguided attempts to include things from the book. Like, the reason a rabbit would make a shitty joke in the middle of a suspenseful scene is because in the book, he was established as having gone a little mad in the destruction of their home warren, and was constantly making silly jokes.

@sharrdx5956

2 жыл бұрын

He hasn't

@PerfectKirby

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt it, considering he doesn’t mention once that there is a book

@herlocksholmes-uv5qw

Жыл бұрын

And Bluebell's jokes were something that captain Holly appreciated because it kept him grounded, reminding him that there were still fun things despite the trauma they went through

@Rothbourne

Жыл бұрын

Clearly has no idea a book exists even.

@squirlis1189

Жыл бұрын

yeah, bluebell did that shit a lot.

I just love the *_But wait its not_* parts

@yowennalcachupas9559

4 жыл бұрын

but wait it's not

@yowennalcachupas9559

3 жыл бұрын

@Unknown user oh shit it's unkown! but wait *IT'S NOT*

@toastedprocastinator

3 жыл бұрын

@@yowennalcachupas9559 it's not

"The CGI isn't that bad" - People with low expectations.

@missquinn7379

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah the fact it came out basically in 2019 (sssssuuuuper late in December 2018) there's really no excuse for it being THIS bad. 10 years ago? Sure we could probably excuse it but I've seen better fan made CGI vids done for art school and such that DID come out nearly 10 years ago. :/

@tobycuret5783

5 жыл бұрын

@@missquinn7379 One word. Budget.

@missquinn7379

5 жыл бұрын

@@tobycuret5783 well they had 5 million pounds per episode with 4 in total so no, still no real excuse

@meevins

5 жыл бұрын

@@missquinn7379 That budget was likely spent on the celebrities, let's be real

@missquinn7379

5 жыл бұрын

@@meevins Doesn't matter, the budget was still there

I think in the end when you asked about the crappy joke it was more showing how they didn't want their story teller to panic. In real live when rabbits panic they can die very easily from just a small panic. The idea of them calming him down with a joke is kind of heartwarming.

@thesappirewolf

Жыл бұрын

The remake was also the first version I saw I've yet to see the original but I do think they did a good job telling the story on the remake. It gave me mixed emotions and the only thing I didn't like is how stiff the characters' movements are. They don't seem to stretch out much or show how flexible rabbits are in real life. It did ruin a lot but I think showing more and exploring more character arcs made it worth the watch. And as for changing out the brotherly bond vs the romantic bond could have made people upset either way. If they hadn't changed it and made the brotherly bond come back it would have been still just as bad. The idea of clover coming to his rescue and saying she doesn't want to be a part from him again makes it really obvious about how hutch rabbits don't actually have any survival instincts or smarts to show how she's supposed to accept death. She's very naive and as it should be. (Because pets shouldn't be released). And as for hazel being blan and dumb i feel it helps us really love him that much more. In the remake he goes on to explain his struggles with finding out why he should be a leader and questions his worth in the group but eventually becomes an amazing leader and his friends stop worrying about him as a leader. The idea of everything changing made the remake feel adventurous and showed how fast you can mature when you really need to.

"Males tend to be more easy going and relaxed while females are usually "the boss" of any household. In the wild, rabbits pair up into couples with the female digging their burrow and the male defending her and the burrow against intruders."

@mooseolini1447

3 жыл бұрын

The point being, that male rabbits are still entirely capable of digging and this is a poor reason to give for finding females. Continuing the perpetuation of your kind, thus not rendering all your efforts for naught, is a much better motive for them to find females. Eradicating this natural and healthy motive from the narrative, especially when this was the only motive presented in both the original animation *and* the book, is sort of the BBC's MO. It's obviously motivated, not by a desire to convey realism (much less to remain true to the source material) but to promote a certain ideological/cultural viewpoint. Everything must be sterilised and castrated, everything must be denatured, in order to produce generations of mewling weaklings, who cry over animated blood.

@laurareyes7040

3 жыл бұрын

Your kinda right, Yes the female rabbits can be the Boss. But to me they keep the males and maybe other females in order.

@laurareyes7040

3 жыл бұрын

@@mooseolini1447 Your kinda right, Some animals can be better diggers then others. The females are better diggers cuz the females dig for there baby's. The males don't really help to dig. In real life out in the wild sometimes the males or bucks stays close by, And sometimes helps the female or doe.

@gorb9944

3 жыл бұрын

@@mooseolini1447 I mean ask any rabbit farmer the male rabbits just suck ass at digging and DO need the does. They should've just stayed with the book and used both of the reasons idk why some peeps try to compare humans to a literal other species. Humans got their own lil thing and this movie is literally about rabbits. Guess BBC was trying to be unique or something but there was no reason to exclude the reason that they needed the does to create the next gen when it's just how rabbits work.

@briannapicanco6337

3 жыл бұрын

I think the reason they didn't add the bucks needing does for babies is because it would give off the message that females are just baby making machines. I know these are animals but the show is ment for kids and you don't want to be giving off the message that all the girls are good for are babies.

They ruined bigwig my favorite character. Bigwig stood up for hazel, it was bigwig whose confidence in hazel was a major factor that influenced others to join him to start the journey

@yvonnet6399

3 жыл бұрын

Um he did. Took him awhile, it’s called character development.

@BruggleStar

3 жыл бұрын

@@yvonnet6399 yes, but in the book and original movie, he was supportive from the start. Bigwig only had an issue with Hazel when they settled down, because Bigwig wanted to be warren leader. But even then, he realized Hazel would be the better leader. The fact that Bigwig tells General Woundwart that he's holding down the warren because his leader told him to, is one of the most defining moments. He didn't need to be an ass.

@jcohasset23

2 жыл бұрын

@@BruggleStar I never got the impression Bigwig openly wanted to be Chief Rabbit from the book or movie. Perhaps early on he was a bit resentful for taking orders from yearlings (Hazel and Blackberry primarily) and there was the open question going into the common poised by some of the other rabbits of whether Bigwig or Hazel was the leader but after leaving Cowslip's warren it's specifically written there was no more questioning of Hazel's authority. After the raid on Nuthanger farm and everyone believes Hazel to be dead Holly is whom the other rabbits ask to become Chief Rabbit.

@Spr1ggan87

7 ай бұрын

@@yvonnet6399 That's a funny way of saying a waste of time

7:50 But in real life female Rabbits as better diggers than male rabbits. There is a real citation to a study that shows that female rabbit dig longer and more consistently and more elaborately than males. Don't ask me why that is but they do.

@veronicapiccinini7956

5 жыл бұрын

Even the 2018 version lampshaded it

@BonazaiGirl

5 жыл бұрын

strayiggyTV Maybe because female rabbits adapt to make dens for their offspring in order to support more rabbits in a space. I honestly don’t know, it’s just an educated guess.

@aaronlandry3934

5 жыл бұрын

strayiggyTV Interesting, but I’m pretty sure a bunch of male rabbits can dig a warren well enough without any does. They would need does if they wanted future generations to live in their warren, though.

@yourarseismine1016

5 жыл бұрын

It's BBC trying to sugar coat it.

@gigatrooper5098

5 жыл бұрын

Who gives a shït

07:40 - Guess you never read the book? That's also a biological fact. Bucks don't dig, they protect the warren and fight other bucks. In the book and the animated show it is Hazel who talks the others into actually trying to work, but that's also why they are motivated to rescue the does. Blackberry was the only female with them in the cartoon, and she couldn't dig it out alone.

@mittensfastpaw

2 жыл бұрын

Google disagrees though. It is unlikely they will do it but they still can do it. Bucks do dig but just not to the same degree or for the same reasons.

@DarthABBA

2 жыл бұрын

@@mittensfastpaw Hazel mentions that they can (though weird as it is) and they do as waiting around needlessly without a home is stupid.

@zeldagamelover24

Жыл бұрын

In the cartoon adapted series they explain why bucks need to learn to dig, since Blackberry was the only doe at the time.

@JynnGaming

Жыл бұрын

Blackberry was never a doe, Blackberry is a male in both book and the old cartoon

Something i always liked about the original was how Woundwart looked. He was this hulking, bulky monster of a rabbit that had this genuine menace that came from his design, to the point where he's barely even a rabbit anymore. Meanwhile in the remake he's indistinguishable from any other character save for some scars on his ears and his eye, he doesn't look intimidating or monsterous, which massively detracts from how intimidating he's meant to be.

@django3422

4 ай бұрын

You really hit on something here. The remake tries to look more realistic, possibly a reflexive reaction to using CGI. As a result, the rabbits are all pretty samey-looking. But the original had a much more stylised approach to the art so all the major characters are clearly distinguishable.

Too bad the 2018 animation had the 2019 ‘Lion King’ effect. The character models look realistic enough, but the original film had such flair and the lead characters looked much more like real rabbits compared to 2018’s characters

@edelweissbunny5556

4 жыл бұрын

Realistic..how? They have unnatural body shapes nothing like that of real rabbits Such as their back legs being too long and their movements are also nothing like rabbits Rabbits actually hop, these guys..like..limp

@liirumlaarum712

4 жыл бұрын

@@edelweissbunny5556 do u never have seen rabbit before

@edelweissbunny5556

4 жыл бұрын

@@liirumlaarum712 Yes. Have you? Also, have you considered appropriate grammar?

@mauricethegecko9700

3 жыл бұрын

@@edelweissbunny5556 do you are have stupid? The rabbits that YOU would see are all fat, and also, for the remake and the original movie, they're not rabbits, they're hares.

@mauricethegecko9700

3 жыл бұрын

@@edelweissbunny5556 it's alright. And I do see what you mean now. I rewatched it and it does look a little off.

About the “Bucks can’t dig, we need does”: both movies are correct with the book. They need does to dig because does have the instincts to dig for their kittens

@beetletwoese8952

4 жыл бұрын

Even so, needing pussy is like a 10 times better reason than hole digging

@oofsong9496

4 жыл бұрын

@@beetletwoese8952 I mean, they kind of dig a hole themselves... Yk

@SunnieDune

4 жыл бұрын

@@beetletwoese8952 as a non-straight person, ew and also it helps with the longer time run, with that they need does for digging

@beetletwoese8952

4 жыл бұрын

Lunnii Moon your spelling is really throwing me off here man

@SunnieDune

4 жыл бұрын

@@beetletwoese8952 ok I don't care cry about it all you want

27:05 Steve: “Why would you break the tension?” *Because that was the goal. They knew they were about to die so he was trying to cheer his friend up.*

@Loris-Card

9 ай бұрын

Exactly

Watership Down will always have a special place in my heart. I saw the original on TV as an evening special broadcast. I was so moved I cried, my mom explained to me that there was a book, and we spent several weekends scouring used bookstores till we found a very nice used copy that I hold dear to this day. This seems to me to be one of those things that really didn't need a remake unless they were really going for broke to do a perfect book translation....

The new watership down is the superior version and is a flawless masterpiece... *but wait, it's not*

@luckyluke-ni9ml

5 жыл бұрын

How it has the worst writing and animation.

@Cloud_Strife1997

5 жыл бұрын

@@luckyluke-ni9ml r/wooosh

@luckyluke-ni9ml

5 жыл бұрын

@@Cloud_Strife1997 wtf does that mean and the story general is flawed the characters are flat and it is rushed in some parts farthing wood has better characters and is better paced this series was about as needed as the 1999 series which is basicly fathwood only with a higher animation budget.

@notgalvatron1698

5 жыл бұрын

@@luckyluke-ni9ml Read the comment again, but more clearly this time and actually have a working sense of humor.

@luckyluke-ni9ml

5 жыл бұрын

@@notgalvatron1698 I was not trying to make a joke but prove a point.

In real rabbit warrens does are the ones who dig. A buck can dig a hole but doesn't have the brain power/instincts to create a Warren. Bucks can't even dig a tunnel. The main reason for a buck to dig is when it's fighting. When two bucks fight they will stop and dig with their tails up, the digging is a show of strength in attempt to intimidate the other buck. They also will dig a small hole and overturn the dirt during hot weather to lay in and cool off.

@shaalis

5 жыл бұрын

Yep. And through the original book, Adams notes stuff about actual rabbit sciences and wildlife study, all marked in subtext.

@disaidra

5 жыл бұрын

Because watership down is of course first and foremost an accurate depiction of wild rabbit behaviour. Rabbits in the wild would also rescue hutch rabbits, release a dog to fight a rival warren, run a warren as a police state, chase down deserters etc etc

@hsjdndd6081

5 жыл бұрын

@@disaidra He was talking shit about how the reason to have females was bs because bucks can dig. They can't. They do not dig in to book, original, or remake and they don't dig in real life. I was correcting him. And yeah this obviously isn't realistic but it tries to have some shit realistic and bucks not digging is one of those things.

@swanpride

5 жыл бұрын

Watership down is actually very concerned about creating a world how rabbits would see it. It is also very specific about Cowlip's warren and Efrara being "perverted" due to human influence. (In Efrafra's case because Woodworth got crazy due to his contact with humans) and that Watership down is different due to Hazel being a particularly visionary leader who does a lot of things which are unusual for a rabbit. Basically there is always a "this is how a proper rabbit would behave" baseline running through it.

@daphnehanson7959

5 жыл бұрын

maybe that's why strawberry can dig a hole faster than the others

I liked they added the romance to the remake, but you are right about Hazel and his brother’s relationship should be more focused on. Hazel and Clover could be on the side.

The 1978 movie's animation of the rabbits is so more realistic than that of the tv-series 1999-2001 and even of the BBC-version.

I've only read the book once, so I might be mis-remembering, but the 'bucks don't dig' and the 'Woundwort backstory' are part of the original novel. The digging thing isn't super important and more used as a extra reason why they need does, so that's probably why it's dropped from the 78 film. As to Woundwort, in the book, his mother is killed and, I think, he's taken in by a human. In the book it's used to explain why Effrafra is as messed up as it is. Woundwort has the place on lockdown so they don't get found. The 78 film probably gets rid of it for time and so that they don't risk softening Woundwort. The remake might have planned to have a longer sequence that was closer to the book, but cut it in the end. In the remake, Woundwort makes moves on Clover is because 'they're both hutch rabbits' even though we never see him being a hutch rabbit.

@Duelkitten

5 жыл бұрын

Yes in the book his father was killed by a farmer because they lived near a cabbage patch. His mother and him along with his siblings ran away. But his siblings didn't make it and get left behind. Only woundwart made it. But they get stopped by a fox who then kills his mother and full leaves woundwort alone. He's taken in by a school master who keeps him on a cage, but there is also a cat in the house. So it terrorizes woundwart until he finally escapes after months of think. Finding the soon to be his Warren later and fighting his way in, then Killing the chief and takng his place. The whole Warren was meant to be hidden, because he is still scared of man, and that's his biggest fear. Also yes males don't usually dig, hares or some hares live above ground and dig small holes to sleep in. But females do dig, to make dens for they're kittens (baby bunnies).

@CelticMagician

5 жыл бұрын

You are correct. Both things were present in the book, but the 2018 remake simply handled these factors poorly. Despite some of its shortcomings, the 1978 version did at least streamline the story well enough to keep key elements of the book and its overall theme in tact imo. It was just a much better adaptation as far as I'm concerned, though I will not fault anyone who enjoys the 2018 version more. Adaptations like these are very subjective and largely boil down to opinion, especially if someone has or hasn't read the book.

@amberace

5 жыл бұрын

Mostly yes. The book states that normally it's a Doe who digs but a Buck is capable of digging if he wants. Since they were all male when the started up the new warden, they all pitched in to dig.

@Shiruvi

5 жыл бұрын

i thought part of the deal with his backstory was also something to do with paranoia about myxomatosis outbreaks?

@morganjackson8993

5 жыл бұрын

So book readers, is darkhaven a 1999 make up waren or is it in the book?

I wander how long intil remake of plague dogs happens

@MausBreaker

5 жыл бұрын

Never I hope and if it is it will likely be a war crimes

@michaelball93

5 жыл бұрын

They would probably turn the Todd female to serve as a love interest for Rowf, make all the human characters sympathetic by giving them 'tragic' backstories, have Snitter get cheerfully patched up and adopted by the end and animate the whole thing in CGI from 2001.

@bleedingth0rnrawrx3

5 жыл бұрын

mya p no hunny, I rather love the old then having it fucked

@InsaneGold

5 жыл бұрын

That better not happen, it's one of my favorites

@superplaceholder6537

5 жыл бұрын

No! I don't want a remake of Plague Dogs! They are gonna ruin it!

So did you just you know completely forget about how dandelion and sunflower fought each other because there was only one doe (strawberry) and that was definitely another reason they made pretty clear about getting doe’s. Not just for digging the warren.

@jcohasset23

2 жыл бұрын

It's still odd they gender changed Strawberry for the series.

@caitlinsessom161

2 жыл бұрын

I think you mean Dandelion and Hawkbit

honestly, the bastardised kehaar was my favourite part of this miniseries:i was so bored with the way they'd done the rest of it that I thought it was hilarious that he just left because he didn't want to deal with it and then came back because he felt like it. he felt like a weird wildcard that I was totally here for

Who else thought the 3D animation was clunky?

@starrie818

5 жыл бұрын

It was v e r y

@JONNOG88

5 жыл бұрын

Looked like the graphics from a Nintendo 64 game. From 1996 😒😓

@onidaaitsubasa4177

5 жыл бұрын

It was a bit, they needed to vary the pacing of the keyframes more but maybe they were rushed by a deadline or a short time frame. If they really would have gotten more realistic they could have motion captured some actual rabbits running around.

@WolfMoonWings

5 жыл бұрын

Its so bad honestly.

@RobertoRafaf

5 жыл бұрын

The Dragon Prince prepared me for this

I agree with most of your points. But it looks like you forgot watership down was a book before it was a movie. I don't think this was ment to be a remake of the 1978 movie, but an adaptation of the book. I enjoyed it. I'm probably not watching it again, but it was alright. I think the worse for me was the character designs. I could only tell most characters apart from their voices. They all kinda look alike in most scenes.

@ashleymacdonald3253

4 жыл бұрын

But this video isn't about the adaptation it's about comparing the two different films. So the book doesn't really matter in this context.

@captianstego6435

4 жыл бұрын

@@ashleymacdonald3253 but he does call the new one a remake of the 1978 movie

@randompersonlol7649

4 жыл бұрын

Catarina Neto the only rabbit I could tell apart from the other rabbits were clover, fiver, bigwig, blue berry, and woundwort.... the rest all look the same to me lol

@shoshitaketakeyani3275

4 жыл бұрын

I thought it always a bit too difficult to tell all the rabbits apart. The original and the remake. Of course Bigwig has hair and he's very large so it's obvious. Hazel was thin and small with Fiber normally pretty close by. But most of the other rabbits are brown/grey but don't have a distinguishing personality or a lot of lines to tell them apart

@iridescentaurora268

4 жыл бұрын

Catarina Neto ‘They all look alike’ Right, but so do actual rabbits

In the book there was a whole chapter dedicated to Woundwort's past. It details his entire life and crucial experiences that caused him to become the person/rabbit he is, how the things he witnessed and survived formed his worldview and ideology. And I think it was actually a cool idea. It does remove some of the mystery around him, but aside from that I don't think it's a bad thing to make the audience feel sympathy for the villain. It adds complexity and is much more true to life than the old hero-villain dichotomy. The chapter on Woundwort shows that it is our experiences and traumas that shape our self. Woundwort had a very different life than Hazel, that led to him having a different picture of the world and the struggle for survival. Based on his experience and idea of the world he created an ideology that would (according to him) be more conductive to survival. If you know his history and character, it does make sense as to why he runs his warren in this way. You do understand why he came to the conclusion that this was the best way. It's the old "security vs. freedom" debate. Woundwort prioritizes security, because security guarantees survival. But strong security comes at the cost of individual freedom. Considering the size, stability and success of his warren, his means are somewhat justified - if survival is your only metric. Anyway, I don't think it's a bad thing that the remake included a small flashback to Woundwort's childhood. I think it's a bad thing that it didn't include more. Knowing Woundwort's motives gives the story much more depth (unlike the whole romance thing), as it explains why the warren is run in this way and thus makes the world more believeable. And it didn't reduce Woundwort's villainous nature at all, he remains an incredibly threatening force. Nobody was rooting for his survival at the end. While the story is about rabbits and their survival, it's also about humans. It is a great examination of human nature and the human condition. The contrast between Hazel and Woundwort is a great example of this and the deep understanding of humans Richard Adams had.

The one thing I’ll always hate about the 2018 remake was the fact that in the original in the fight between Bigwig and Woundwort, when he asks him to come out, Bigwig says his chief has told him to defend this run out of his own loyalty which demonstrates his change of character in accepting Hazel as his leader. Whereas in this version, he just gets told to say it by Hazel and which really pisses me off since it just destroys anything left of Bigwig’s character. Personally, I don’t think Bigwig had a character in this remake

@statrosapristina

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody had decent characterization in the 2018 remake. It was dull, ugly, cheap, and the plot was an absolute mess. Hazel and Bigwig are the worst characters in the remake: the first became a useless and dumb rabbit, the second became an insufferable bully. The beautiful friendship they had in the book and the movie? Gone.

One of my favourite books....never watched the movies though. Disappointing to hear they changed basic points, such as taking Fiver's sixth sense about his brother away. Hazel was always "reluctant hero-leader" in the book. Bigwig was the tank who kept order under Hazel. Kehaar talks normally? They don't speak the same language. Why did they ruin the characters? Also notice how they are never sitting, but always have their hindquarters up? Rabbits lollop and sit, run and sit, hop and sit. These guys look more like dogs with their backs always up. Come to think of it, they look like kangaroos!

@MissMaja24

2 жыл бұрын

We don't get any rabbit loafs of bread :S

@lazuardialdi2646

2 жыл бұрын

WUT ABOUT HOLLY'S MEMORY?

@SavouryGalette

Жыл бұрын

Just because a movie changes stuff from the book doesn't mean it's automatically bad.

@sherri1699

Жыл бұрын

@@SavouryGalette no one said that.

@SavouryGalette

Жыл бұрын

@@sherri1699 That's what you implied.

Oh boy, the walk/run cycles, Now, that’s the real horror.

@chi11y29

5 жыл бұрын

OMG ikr! They don't even move like rabbits! They move like mutations of rabbits, look at the legs! Their way longer then the front legs, that's not how rabbits look or move!

@thejudge.2745

4 жыл бұрын

There fucking cheap ass fake fucking rabbits.

@3piper

4 жыл бұрын

I had pet rabbits.The cartoon animation of the original was much more realistic

@kara_thewolf7518

3 жыл бұрын

That’s how hares walk and run. Oh yeah btw BBC is a documentary company or at least does documentaries. Have they not seen a rabbit before?

@theinternalkiller

3 жыл бұрын

i couldnt put into words what was so offputting about the visual style of the remake, and this is exactly why. the OG animation had animators that obviously understood rabbit anatomy.

Steve: *grew up on scary sh-t like this* Me and 68% of his subscribers: *grew up watching bambi*

The thing with the brow animation, I can only say one thing. Ice Age. The Mammoths (I can’t remember the names, except Manny and Peaches), are so dependant on their eyes, since their mouths are hidden, but when you look at them during scenes of emphasised emotions, they nail it IMO. When they’re tired, hurt, upset, happy, it doesn’t matter, it’s so beautifully conveyed, and I think if they’d put the effort in here, it could’ve been done. But it’s the BBC, and if they’re willing to screw pensioners out of TV licenses, then a lack of effort is nothing…..

Wouldn't it be better to compare both adaptations to the original novel rather than against each other? The novel does cover the male rabbits needing females to dig burrows because males only have the drive to dig scrapes to rest in. Females dig dens to raise their kits in. The novel also covers Woundwart's backstory to show why he's so cautious of being found by humans. This is like comparing Netflix's Mowgli to Disney's Junglebook. Of course they're not going to match 100% They're trying to cover different aspects of the novel. Mind you, the original movie is more loyal to the book when it comes to characterization and plot points.

@Fapujo

5 жыл бұрын

Yeeah that's why I'm unsubscribing this channel. Netflix series is its own adaptation of the book, not a remake of 70's animated movie. Plus he is drasticaly missing some points that WERE explained clearly in the movies (not only in this video but also on his Felidae review). Jeez I expected an entertaining channel about animated movies yet I have another reviever that is not doing their research correctly and complains about things just because he's missing the point.

@eadlynjune

5 жыл бұрын

I agree. I still enjoy this because I like the comparisons but I feel like it is unfair to act like the remake is wrong for being faithful to the book in certain ways. Most of the points weren’t like that though and just hinged on what he thought worked better so I wish he’d focus more on that next time.

@rachel7689

5 жыл бұрын

to be fair, if there are no females around to raise kittens then there's no drive to dig at all...

@user-vr8ve6rt9c

5 жыл бұрын

Ok people THIS IS ABOUT MOVIES!!! Not books he's comparing the movies. You're so obsessed with the damn book and not even realizing what this is about it's about the movies he probably knows there's a book. It's just not the topic of the video. So you're unsubscribing bc you're mad he didn't mention one little thing seriously? You people get on my nerves

@ToxicognathHugs

5 жыл бұрын

Go be stupid on your own comment. People are just rightly pointing out that he's mistaken in thinking that the new series is a remake of the movie instead of a retelling of the original novel.@@user-vr8ve6rt9c

The animation in the remake looks like an unfinished xbox cutscene. I can't stand it

@gavinbunting7354

5 жыл бұрын

I can stand it better than the stupid animation of the movie, it was just so bad to me

@user-xo7hl1mu9t

5 жыл бұрын

i think they both have their goods & bads

@luckyluke-ni9ml

5 жыл бұрын

No it looks like a play station 3 game.

@Xoro2203

5 жыл бұрын

😤

@rdsharma7467

5 жыл бұрын

Its according to the client requirements so u cant even critise the animations and other aspects

i remember 12 year old me watching watership down, practically dying from laughter after that seagull said "piss off" (and yes i watched the old one and im surprised i wasnt disturbed af)

@l.l.5201

2 жыл бұрын

Where you watched it?

I think I like the remake because it really went deep with the characters and although Clover took out some Fiver parts, I think there was enough development for him as well as Clover and the others. I also like how fun and lovable BigWig is in the remake.

I'll take a shot each time he says : *"But Wait, It's Not"*

@mango-jango9995

3 жыл бұрын

Are you alive

@fordshojoe8080

3 жыл бұрын

Ah heudixicurbrix8 wtf hide 7xudbdheif

@bananakitofinternetclan8350

3 жыл бұрын

Don't you'll die of alcohol poisoning

@fordshojoe8080

3 жыл бұрын

@@bananakitofinternetclan8350 at least they won't know what's happening

@ill_luck

3 жыл бұрын

I think that describes everything I’ve seen from this channel so far

Me seeing the thumbnail: *wait?... THERES A REMAKE???*

@wolfheartspirit97

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Haflich Me: there was an original 0.o

@kyleenguyen9590

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Haflich dumby

@schattenvolkofficial1121

3 жыл бұрын

Actually already a second remake. There's also a british-canadian TV series from 1998 ... 🤷‍♀️ And yes. More polished up for kids!

@_kittyctgamer_4571

3 жыл бұрын

I said: there was an original movie?!

@jamiebentley142

3 жыл бұрын

But wait there’s not 😐

You know it's a based on a book, right? In the story, most of the changes you hated actually happened in the book lol. Its been a while but when they said the thing about the doe digging, I think that was a real reason in the book

As much as I like both, I feel that the Netflix series was closer to the book.

@williampulfer-melville8536

3 жыл бұрын

Even though Pipkin wasn't even in the remake for some reason

@jonathanbirch2022

2 жыл бұрын

The Netflix one changed too much from the book

Who else didn't even *know* there was a remake before finding this video? **Raises hand**

@emptyteacup8228

5 жыл бұрын

*Also raises hand*

@trubllz

5 жыл бұрын

*Raises head* I hAvEnt evEr seEn aNy of thEM

@NGRevenant

5 жыл бұрын

I didn't need to know thanks a lot youtube you fucks

@rufina4135

5 жыл бұрын

*Jumps out of window will raising hand*

@saschy1237

4 жыл бұрын

Technically there 2 remakes-

This wasn't a good review. But wait, it was.

@carlotzin56

5 жыл бұрын

This must be the most clever comment of the video. But wait, it's not.

@eliseotorres7958

5 жыл бұрын

Are you a dick? Nah.

i remember the original rabbit death scene gave me nightmares for a year

Something I hated about it was that it had no bright eyes, like seriously, what is Watership down without bright eyes?

@benm1414

3 жыл бұрын

My mother said I'm too romantic...

@bananapoptarts246

3 жыл бұрын

@@benm1414 she said your dancing in the movies

@benm1414

3 жыл бұрын

Omg and @@bananapoptarts246 would you believe I started to believe her? But then I saw (your comment) and I knew...

@Twilightwolf34820

2 жыл бұрын

They had it playing in the credits LOL

They have de-brutalized the doom of old Warren. In the book and original movie the warren was destroyed by locking all holes and poisoned rabbits with gas. It was cruel, brutal, something so unbelievable it never happened before, reminding gas chambers in German death camps. They were obsessively digging in panic, fighting with each other for another breath, choking with blood and suffocating, creating the pile of twisted dead bodies in corners (gas chambers again). It suppose to be shocking and it was in the original movie. In BBC series it was so flattened... The builders just came, started to dig and destroyed the warren to build houses... I mean, tragic but... Meh

@gavinbunting7354

5 жыл бұрын

Better than the original in my opinion as that animation made no sense to me.

@zzzsleepy

5 жыл бұрын

This scene felt more like a nightmare about Cowslip's warren than a first hand description of the destruction of Sandelford. It was eerie and unsettling when it should have been the most devastating cataclysmic moment in the entire story. Zorn!

@Kairos_Akuma

5 жыл бұрын

@@gavinbunting7354 It was artistical desicion and a pretty strong one. because it was HORROR in the litteral sense. And sorry the fking Remake Toned it way to down - like OP said "Meh".

@ginnyjollykidd

5 жыл бұрын

Bluebell said he had to claw through bodies and was digging at times to escape, dazed and confused by the gas. He saw a boy hunting down rabbits and spitting them on a stick. Could you imagine humans being hunted and their dead bodies mutilated by a species who didn't care? Maybe we're inured or insulated from it, but Nature is a hard Mother and these animals live stark lives. Perhaps part of the book was to remind us of Man's Inhumanity to Man and shake us up to what happens in the world.

@zzzsleepy

5 жыл бұрын

@@ginnyjollykidd Wait you mean Holly. Nobody else got out. And even if they did they would NEVER be able to track Hazel and the gang alone through so many trials. Holly wasn't Captain of the Owsla for nothing. This rabbit was smart and strong. ... Bluebell psshhh really no.. but great gawds thats from the book I havent read it in so long. Adds a whole new level of horror. Im pretty sure you mean Holly though.

If you like Watership Down, then Plague Dogs would be right up your street.

@hatguy8225

3 жыл бұрын

It's so sad

@nelproductions8153

3 жыл бұрын

I loved watership down and then I watched plague dogs and I loved it even more.

@Itan_Hillsan

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this comment

@whoopsthefingersup6040

3 жыл бұрын

The plague dogs break my heart, especially at the end you don’t know if they reach the island or not

@luckydawg3980

3 жыл бұрын

I love both.

That movie and the one with the dogs traumatised me as a kid. It still makes me very uncontable, but still: I wouldn't change anything of the original. Its a scary piece of art and its still a good movie that i would probably never show my children if i had one even it says its for 6 year olds.

@benm1414

3 жыл бұрын

Plague Dogs? 🤔

@Twilightwolf34820

2 жыл бұрын

Was it Chance? I just watched that today I loved it but the dog fighting scenes make you cry

The song "bright eyes" by garfunkel that serves as the watership down theme has been singed into my soul since childhood. I love the old animated version 🖤

7:59 they do expand on it. He later is yelling at one of his generals for being afraid. In the flashback he was afraid of the fox and failed to warn his family. It gives a reason to why he stresses the need to not be afraid. At the very end as the dog is about to kill him he tells himself that he isn’t afraid.

@UltimateDoomSoldier

5 жыл бұрын

He also killed a cat or fox i think in the book.

@Lynxan

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying that, this is how I had seen that as well. The funny thing is if I remember right, I think that bit got lifted from the TV show that what made a while back. If you want Watership Down where it gets washed out and drags on way to far (It should had ended at season 2 as everything about season 3 was just pointless.

Hey Steve would you mind doing a review on this movie called 9? It’s a little creepy animated movie that I recommend Edit: God! Over 250 likes? Thanks guys (and gals as well)

@darkmya19

5 жыл бұрын

One 4 All such a good movie 👍

@veronicapiccinini7956

5 жыл бұрын

pkslider725 I love 9. I approve your suggest. And besides, there is Elijah Wood, aka Frodo Baggins🤩❤️

@laciehinds7768

5 жыл бұрын

One 4 All damn, that was a fucking decent movie, I give that movie a solid 8/10 :)

@yunirkamartinez6157

5 жыл бұрын

One 4 all? I like your name, it reminds me of MHA :>

@Pixel__Hearts

5 жыл бұрын

legendary movie

19:36 just like the remake of The Lion King

YOU CAN NOT CHANGE MY MIND THE 2018 VERSION WITH FREAKING AMAZING ❤️

@valiovansku6453

3 жыл бұрын

I've been looking for this comment. It is when you don't mind the animation and just enjoy when we have this kind of a series of brutal rabbit world

“But wait, it’s not.” -Steve Reviews, 2019

I dont know why so many people expect the BBC version to take things from the '78 version when the newer one was not using the old film as source material... of course they're going to do things differently because the source material is the book itself. The old film was more successful visually but imo I think the newer one captured the book better. When reading the book I honestly didn't get the same "creepy" vibes the '78 film induces, and I think the 2018 version captures the vibe of the book a bit better. But to each his own.

@joshuagonzalez902

3 жыл бұрын

Same

I’d like to ‘briefly’ touch on the “bucks can’t dig” argument, because it isn’t wrong. When I was younger I owned a lot of rabbits and we didn’t keep them in hutches, we kept them in cages made for rabbits. But we had two groups of rabbits that were in wooden frames that could be moved around. I mention this because there is no wire bottom or anything, but there was wire connecting all the wood, both of these elements are important. We had two, one for bucks, one for does. Both escaped quite regularly, but how they escaped differed between the bucks and the does. The does would, as you would expect, dug tunnels out of the enclosure. The bucks on the other hand, would make no attempt at digging, and instead chewed through the wire or found holes in it to escape from. I’ve seen a couple people say that bucks don’t dig because their claws are made for fighting, and that is very likely, now I’m not sure if it’s true but it absolutely makes sense. The stronger buck can more effect my protect the young AND the mother while she is pregnant. The bucks we had would frequently fight with one another, especially if it was over a female. I even watched the 2018 version of Watership Down with my mum, who was quite knowledgeable on rabbits and had observed what I just explained to you, and she said it was accurate. Plus, when they say they need does, they also say they need them as diggers, as well as companions and mothers. All this to say: Bucks don’t dig.

21:50 the first time I watched this scene I had a full on panic attack. It horrified me so much that I don't remember when or where I watched the movie, as well as large parts of the movie, except the graphic scenes. I didn't watch the remake, but from the clips you use it looks like i would just feel maybe a little upset watching it because the bunnies died.

This is a 2019 comment But wait, It's not

@zvorakzekrom

3 жыл бұрын

... 🤦‍♂️

@ForkLefts

3 жыл бұрын

@@angelicangielio this is an djdnrkkemmedmmxmxmfkx LrFLFKTOAGKKGTK FXJZ I just had a stroke But wait, I didn't, i banged my head on my keyboard

@spinosaurusaegyptiacus7440

3 жыл бұрын

This is a 2020 comment But wait It’s not

@cuperthewolf

3 жыл бұрын

@@spinosaurusaegyptiacus7440 this is a 9200 comment. But wait It *Not*

2018 remake of Watership down is well animated *but wait* *it's not*

@randompersonlol7649

4 жыл бұрын

The animation was.... *ok* but I feel like BBC used up all the money they could’ve used to make the animation better, on paying the voice actors. If BBC chose some good voice actors that would work for a low price, than I think the animation might’ve been *way better*

@zerolayne8245

4 жыл бұрын

I liked the animation...

@toxicrelief2142

3 жыл бұрын

@@zerolayne8245 liked it too, i dont know why everyone hates it so much

@v.k.rt.m.6030

3 жыл бұрын

@@toxicrelief2142 because it strays away sir.

@beanos4942

3 жыл бұрын

@@v.k.rt.m.6030 at least they actually remade it for the generations who haven't watched it like me.

I would love for you to read the book and get your perspective on it. The original film does a much better job of sticking closer to the book (except for Violet's existence, which is not a thing, and Woundwort killing Blackavar... also not a thing) than the remake does, but even then it has its own edits (probably for budget and time reasons) that just don't add up. In the book, the bucks actually start to dig the warren with the help of Strawberry (who, by the way, is a buck in the book), but the book explains that the digging of a burrow is the natural job of a doe digging for her expected litter. The Effrafan does also express how much of their discontent was due to reabsorbing their litters before birth (rabbits do this naturally under stress) and not being allowed to dig. Also! The book never explains WHO Clover's litter is by (I assume it's Holly, because it explains that Holly takes a liking to Clover because she seems more robust than the other hutch rabbits), though it's never outright stated.

Steve. You CAN'T just start playing Bright Eyes IN THE FLIPPIN BACKGROUND. I cannot concentrate on your review through my tears!

I still haven't checked out the remake since I'm still mentally scarred from seeing the original when I was five, haha. I do have to say, the style of the remake makes me a bit uncomfortable. There is something... weird about it. It reminds me of those old, awful computer animations that have this realistic skin slapped on top of them. And it disturbs me greatly.

@emmimoilanen6701

5 жыл бұрын

Also, regarding the weird explanation for needing to get the does: " Female rabbits can be more territorial than males and like to dig holes as this is their traditional role in the wild." So in the wild, female rabbits are actually the ones that dig the holes. But it still sounds kinda bizarre to just throw it in since having the females to be able to breed sounds much more believable.

@DCreed013

5 жыл бұрын

@@emmimoilanen6701 When I heard that part of the remake I was baffled as to why they changed it, but that does make a bit more sense. But still, that makes it a matter of 'female rabbits are more naturally inclined to dig' than 'female rabbits are the only ones capable of digging'. The bucks were even digging when the scene started! They could have dug out the new warren if they had to, but they can't reproduce without does. It comes across as a trivial thing to bring up when there's a far more pressing concern to address. The only reason I can think they made that the reason was to seem less sexist by giving the female rabbits a reason to be there other than as baby makers. But that fell flat when the only thing that came to my mind was a bunch of grown men from the 50's standing around saying 'we need women because men can't cook or clean!'. Yes you can, you've just never had to and don't want to because society deems that as 'women's work'. To me it comes across as more sexist than needing does to, you know, reproduce. Something they actually cannot physically do without does. I bet that BBC put that there with good intentions, but I don't think they thought them all the way through.

@eddygendron8773

5 жыл бұрын

@Dhara, oh hi Johnny.

@TomHagge

5 жыл бұрын

The Uncanny Valley, but with rabbits.

@cyberwolf_1013

5 жыл бұрын

Regarding the childhood trauma, I know where you're coming from, and I found the remake easier to watch. The nightmare inducing scene of the destruction of the home warren doesn't terrorize so much. There is far less blood and of rabbits ripping each other apart. To the worse or betterment of the story I couldn't really say.

Want to point out real quickly that the joke bluebell made 'a hoptomist' - while validly not to your taste - is accurate characterization taken from the book. In the book bluebell actually arrives with holly, and holly credits his constant bad puns as the only reason he didn't lose himself to despair while tracking the others. Blackberry also references bluebell's tendency to crack jokes during tense or frightening moments in the second episode, and actively discourages him from making one shortly after. Some people respond to fear with humor as a coping mechanism and this is very much what bluebells deal is.

I don't know why but I can see them remaking "The Plague Dogs"

@williampulfer-melville8536

3 жыл бұрын

And who would you cast The Voice the characters if they ever do the remake of the plague dogs

@toxicman7758

3 жыл бұрын

@@williampulfer-melville8536 not quite sure to be honest just people who are decent, who do you think would be good for the voices.

@williampulfer-melville8536

3 жыл бұрын

@@toxicman7758 Idres Elber as Rowf Matt Berry as Snitter Tom Hiddleston as Tod Gary Oldman as Dr Boycott and Nick Frost as Steven Powell

@starstruck6162

3 жыл бұрын

Well if they do make a remake of plague dogs I think i would watch it I just hope they don't include the scene were the man got shot in the face and him covering his bloody face ( that scene was honestly just out of no where) and it made the movie way more eerie and disturbing.

Honestly I disagree with the lack of expression you can still tell what they're thinking and feeling by the movements of their ears how they move their head and somewhat body language which honestly I enjoyed very much I think it was pretty nice after all bunnies don't really have facial expressions

Honestly the actual darkness of the scenes in the remake made it look like I was staring at a pitch black screen

Ok I’ve noticed a lot of comments on here referring to how the book is better, and how the BBC remake is superior as it made lots of references to the book that I missed, such as the Does being able to dig better than the Bucks. Full disclosure, I have not read the book, and perhaps I should have made that clear in the video, but here’s my response: 1) This review was purely to compare the two films to one another, and that’s it. I never really get it when people look at the book as a direct form of entertainment comparison. A book is a completely different medium and offers the individual a completely different experience to watching something on a screen. It’s like saying that playing a board game is much better than playing a video game, when in fact they’re two different things. By all means you can state how the book handled things different, such as story elements and characters, but you can’t compare they’re entertainment quality. 2) People are saying that if I had read the book then I would fully understand why the BBC remake mentioned such seemingly pointless things, such as the Bucks not being able to dig as good as the Does. This is apparently fully explained in the book. Well here’s the thing.. the book may have explained better as to why the Does are the better diggers, but the BBC remake did not, it simply threw it in as a random line of dialogue with no context surrounding it. Therefore it is assuming that I must have already read the book, so don’t need it fully explained to me. That’s bad writing, I should not have to go seeking additional source material in order to understand what’s going on, it should all be fully explained in the film itself. If one of the rabbits in the remake just added a bit of extra dialogue such as “we never learnt how to dig as in our old warren it was the Does that dug out the tunnels” then fine, but it didn’t. 3) I hope you are all having a wonderful day. :)

@Jenema2

5 жыл бұрын

You shouldn't be comparing them to begin with when they arent remakes, they're VERY DIFFERENT adaptations of the same source material. Seriously like trying to compare Taming of the Shrew with "10 things I hate about you:". Same source material, similar characters, very different film.

@Martyrules

5 жыл бұрын

It was a great video. Idk why people always throw in how the book is this and that. The books usually aren't under the same time constraints and can be as long as need. They are a different medium like you said and should be treated as such. I'm subbing

@anthus9786

5 жыл бұрын

Uhh.. The fact that the does dig better is fully explained in motion. We see them digging better, and faster, several times.

@dfwjac

5 жыл бұрын

It actually strays farther from the book than the '78 film. And the decisions made were stupid.

@Hawkalon

5 жыл бұрын

no, bad writing would be exactly what you just typed. if they had to explicitly state that they never learned how to dig for you to understand that does are the diggers, then the problem was you. good writing is "show, don't tell". the remake did quite enough to get the point across; i hadnt read the book when i watched it either but i wasnt going to assume i knew better than the writers about animal behavior based on nothing whatsoever.

Watership Down has been my favorite book since I was a kid. And other than the animated movie, which pandered to my little goth heart back in the day, they have an older, kid friendly TV series which is actually quite good. But I had no idea this even existed!!! How...

I liked that Keehar in the original had a foreign accent and spoke in broken language, as it illustrated communication between two extremely different animals very well. Also I don't see a need to change the motive for the rabbits needing does. They are animals in a survival situation after all, and while women in real life have the option of having children, rabbits would need children if they wanted the trouble of finding a new home to mean anything, and more babies gives their group the best chance of survival. They seem to take great pride in their united effort to survive even though any one of them could be snatched away in an instant from natural causes.

Blackberry and Dandelion aren't pointless characters. Dandelion lifted spirits during the journey to the Down by telling stories. Blackberry's intelligence got the rabbits out of some extremely hairy situations i.e: The dog in the woods that forced them across the creek, he figured out they could use the board to help Pipkin and Fiver cross because they were exhausted and wouldn't make the swim themselves. He attributed that knowledge to the boat they use to escape the Efrafans near the end of the story as well. Something that was sadly cut out of the remake and bothers me to no end.

@marvelfanatic9535

5 жыл бұрын

Speaking of Pipkin, I missed him

@valkiddy89134

5 жыл бұрын

Uhh Dandelion never told stories in the mini series, Bluebell did. Dandelion was the fast one, the one that saved Fivers life from the truck and he also saved them from the birds.

@marvelfanatic9535

5 жыл бұрын

Giraffe Academy but in the book, Dandelion told the stories

@valkiddy89134

5 жыл бұрын

Mariah Raichert Thanks for telling me, I only watched the mini series

@marvelfanatic9535

5 жыл бұрын

Giraffe Academy you’re welcome and I totally recommend the animated series from the 90’s 100%!!! Those were pretty cool! I mean granted they did stray far from the book but other than that still awesome

When it come's to Woundwort being sympathic, that's actually something from the books. The reader was told early on about Woundwort's past, so his past was never really much of a mystery. Everything was known about him. And I do recall that, if the author had written the novel again, he stated he would have liked to make Woundwort seem more sympathic. So to me, the BBC series simply tries to do both things.

@GrubStLodger

5 жыл бұрын

Also the reason Efrafa is a totalitarian state is Woundwort's paranoia about man discovering it, that's why it's not extended and feeding times are restricted.

@megadracosaurus

5 жыл бұрын

@@GrubStLodger I know that, yeah. It was explained in both the book and the BBC adaptation.

If I'm being honest? I fucking love the remake. It feels more intense and dreary. Maybe because nostalgia doesn't anchor me to the original, idk, but I also feel like the remake had more character development.

@iclynnx

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, same here.

@sequoiadraws2965

2 жыл бұрын

Only the remake I watched so I like that one the best

@bryn1906

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I actually really like the remake

@Twilightwolf34820

2 жыл бұрын

Me too

@jonathanbirch2022

2 жыл бұрын

The CGI is fcking horrible though

Honestly I thoroughly enjoyed the 2018 series. I felt a lot of urgency and fear for their lives, could it have used better cgi and maybe a little more shock yes but all in all a good watch.

Normally love your stuff but I completely disagree with this review. I think the core of the problem here is you view the 2018 version as a reboot of the original film when it's really a new adaptation of the book. It may not sound like it but that's a very important distinction For example, you say Woundwort isn't meant to be sympathetic and his story should be ambiguous but that would only be true if this was going by the old film. In the book, Woundwort has a backstory almost identical to the new version from the loss of his parents to being a hutch rabbit. In this sense I think the new is superior because it portrays the villain in the way the source material intended. Another is the bizarre criticism that it doesn't include Bright Eye. This song is completely irrelevant to the book and was really only in the old film because it was by a popular singer at the time. There's no necessity to include it. I understand you are comparing the two but deviations from the old film are not problems in themselves as it is not an adaptation of it. To really compare the two as adaptations you should really have looked at their source material.

@b.3432

5 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU OMG idk why the hell he kept referring to the animated movie as "The original". When it wasn't at all the prime source material for the BBC series.

@1trevor30

5 жыл бұрын

@@b.3432 Because the movie is what made it popular and is what's known. No on cares about the book. All comparisons are made from the movie because it's all anyone knows of the material aside from a few book worms who read just about anything to pass the time.

@retrothehare4053

5 жыл бұрын

I completely agree with you and ur argument

@fermitthekrog6318

5 жыл бұрын

David McGinness but He wasn't comparing the book to anything. He was comparing the original movie to the new one and telling us his opinion.

@42ndblaze43

5 жыл бұрын

David McGinness deviations from the older film aren’t the problem it’s the fact that the reboot watered them down and made the narrative so boring

Woundwart's backstory was explored in the book. Maybe read that...

@xTheForgottenOnexx

5 жыл бұрын

@@shellysolomonart The book puts it to better use. The book is VERY LONG, though, and I understand it had more time to evolve these aspects. I think in something that has limited time, you should either expand upon it ( which this failed to ) or omit it entirely. As it stands, it didn't play enough of a role for it to be necessary to the story. In fact, it played no role-...it was just kind of 'there.' The CGI made some bad choices as far as time management goes. In the book, there's no fight with a bunch of crows, only one, and it goes by quick. The new story shouldn't have added some big actions sequence, it should've focused on the characters more. There's a lot I'd change. Honestly, if i had time, I'd love to personally work on a lengthy 2d animated series. To give the necessary time this book deserves.

@alejandrogutierrez3789

5 жыл бұрын

Did they allude to the 1000 enemy story?

@b.3432

5 жыл бұрын

@Shelly Solomon Art THE POINT OF WOUNDWART'S BACKSTORY WAS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF MAKING HIM "RELATABLE". And yes, his backstory in the book did indeed have a point. It was to show he was an agressive, powerful and bloodthirsty fighter ever since he was born. He chased after beasts bigger than him since he was young. When he was taken in by a man as an orphaned cub, HE KILLED HIS PET KITTEN. The book is very pragmatic about the animal kingdom, and the roles the rabbits take in the story. Fighters (like Bigwig) are fighters because they were born big and strong, and W. is nothing but an extreme example of that.

@Phantomgirl259

5 жыл бұрын

They also touched on it in the tv series

@joecheatham3961

5 жыл бұрын

I think you need to read the video title again he is comparing the original film to the to remake not comparing them to the book

One of my biggest disappointments was the Black Rabbit of Inle. In the original, he's this mysterious figure that is distinct to all of the rabbits due to the different style of animation applied to him. The way he looks and moves is unique, its very clear he's of another world. He is also one of my favorite interpretations of the Grim Reaper, because he's welcoming, he has a loving, kind voice that says "Yes, you are dead. But its not the end, there's a better place for you in the next life. Don't be afraid", which is very refreshing compared to the scary figure that'll will hunt you to get your soul. I'd be more willing to go with him than with a skeleton coming at me with a scythe. The remake. Its just a black rabbit with nothing really unique about him, oh, I'm sorry, her (goddammit BBC), with a voice actress who doesn't sound warm or welcoming in the slightest. Didn't even sound like she was trying.

General Woundwart’s fear is what led to the death of his family, and then later his lack of fear is what resulted in the death of his warren and his own (possible) death. *Ironic.*

“That’s the cutest f**king thing I’ve ever seen” *MEME NOISE*

Can you do the Iron Giant movie please?

@darkmya19

5 жыл бұрын

Good movie would love to see a review

@joeytheslimeboi8900

5 жыл бұрын

That movie is the best warner bros animated movie

@BaldurtheImpious

5 жыл бұрын

I always cry

@sponge.yeah.7791

5 жыл бұрын

I have never seen Iron Giant. Its that movie with that giant robot hat saves everyone from an astroid, right?

@Billybnntt

5 жыл бұрын

Yes please!

7:42 This technically has to do with sexual dimorphism, where males and females have different body parts for different reasons. Due to their aggressiveness towards eachother, male rabbits have claws thinner, sharper claws for fighting over females, space, or dominance. Female rabbits have wider claws got digging burrows to protect their babies. They also did bring up the need for babies, but presented this a few seconds later. Also, if it were me doing this review, I would’ve added some more bits of difference between the book, the original movie, and the remake series. Having read the book a few months ago, certain scenes are made up for the sake of run time (especially with side characters) and other characters/roles are swapped. In the book, the rabbit named Strawberry from Cowslip’s warren was actually male, but in the remake, Strawberry is female (probably to add more conflict on the “need for does” plot). Also at the end with the final battle, the rabbit in the book and original movie who had his throat ripped out by Woundwart was Blackavar, but in the remake, his place is taken by Captain Holly. Even then, he’s killed by Woundwart’s soldiers. Also, the chase scene across the river both never happens as isn’t at the right time. In the book, the river crossing scene happened, but much later into part one than in the remake and it didn’t involve the group being hunted down by the Owsla.

@truedaryldixon

Жыл бұрын

Blackavar was not killed in the book

Thanks for this video. The original film means a lot to me as it was a big part of my childhood. I feel you’ve articulated what makes it such a classic. Keep up the awesome work.