Steve Howe just one of the most talented guitar payer ever god bless you sir.

@derail14

6 жыл бұрын

he is a god.

@ogrebattle22763

6 жыл бұрын

Yes he is one hell of a guitarist...

@bernios3446

5 жыл бұрын

I'd say he was. Already when I first saw them live in 2002, I found his fingers to have become slow-ish, he had problems to keep up speed in the runs and solos. But in the 70ies he was incredible.

@mikereiss4216

4 жыл бұрын

He's just all over the place on those seventies albums. I remember being blown away by his guitar work on gates of delirium in particular but yours is no disgrace, america, etc all good guitar work on there.

@piotrkostka8494

4 жыл бұрын

100%

Arguably, Howe was the most other-worldly guitarist that ever existed, specifically regarding his work from 'Close to The Edge" to 'Going For The One. His unheard-of-before sounds combined with his technical mastery raised him to a solitary level. His 'riffs', for lack of a justifiable term, are most often actually mini-melodies in their own right -- absolutely peerless!

@jacekcel36

Ай бұрын

He is.

Yes are most famous for Owner of a Lonely Heart ? Good Lord : only amongst idiots dear .Would like to have seen Steve Howe`s face when she said that ...

@ZalMoxis

5 жыл бұрын

What they could of said was second only to Led Zep in popularity in the 70's

@GregorMortis420

4 жыл бұрын

I know them thanks to the animated version of a japanese comic book... Jojo's Bizzarre Adventures!

@montag4516

4 жыл бұрын

They mention that song with Steve Howe as a guest despite the fact he was not part of that song, that album or the band at that point.

@andrenewcomb3708

3 жыл бұрын

Radio play and Billboard never do justice to music. Especially with Yes. It's critically important for radio stations to be peopled by people. Hasn't happened in a while.

@justuswenzel6148

3 күн бұрын

@@montag4516he’s played that song live many times In his life I assure you

Best known for "owner of a lonely heart", which neither of them played on - great research, that intern! nice work fella lol

@patricklauer4452

5 жыл бұрын

Martin Haigh now these days people know them for Roundabout because of the Be Continued meme and some weebo anime That’s how I discovered them

@joer4822

5 жыл бұрын

I hear ya Martin...."Owner"? If these people are going to interview a band, do some friggin' homework on them!

@arfshesaid4325

5 жыл бұрын

and Martin dont u think vocals had a wee bit to do with it,

@radagastbrown9001

5 жыл бұрын

I am surprised Steve didn't walk out right then.

@radagastbrown9001

5 жыл бұрын

She should have said, you guys are best known for " Heat of the Moment ". That would have been less offense and at least partly true.

Yes is a complete twist of history, always top level musicians. Sure do miss Chris though, RIP!

@travisrlel2

6 жыл бұрын

If nothing else, Geoff looks a hell of a lot like Chris.

@patnelson6147

6 жыл бұрын

Paul Simmons b

@elizabethdiggar3115

3 жыл бұрын

@@travisrlel2 glad I'm not losing my mind I thought so too

Great seeing Steve and Geoff this morning. Thanks for sharing!

'70s Yes on vinyl. Nothing better!

@gabrielperrymusic

6 жыл бұрын

The Steve Wilson 5.1 remixes are pretty awesome too. :)

@markusantonio4866

4 жыл бұрын

@@gabrielperrymusic To Be Over is my favorite.

I would draw the Yes logo on EVERYTHING when I was a kid. ;-)

These interviewers didn't appear to have a clue to whom they were speaking.

@mikeonfreeserve2926

5 жыл бұрын

Charlie Shampoo and BBC token BME, what do you expect. Completely clueless.

@2msvalkyrie529

4 жыл бұрын

She was complaining recently about not being paid enough !?! Time for license fee to be scrapped !

@matthewlacey5307

4 жыл бұрын

why were they on even? BBC clueless on detail

@iVenge

3 жыл бұрын

No surprise there.

@tomvesely4008

3 жыл бұрын

Based on Steven Wilson interview I've seen earlier, their understanding of this kind of music is kind of shallow, not surprising at all.

Steve Howe is a brilliantly talented guitarist. Most of the music of Yes from the 1970s still sounds fresh and will age well.

Great to see these guys still rockin' it! Some of us baby boomers are taking a second look and listen to these great bands from the 70s. With that in mind, seeing and hearing members from these bands still together (in one form or the other!) is great! Don't retire; keep playing the music that we want to hear and that you guys love playing for us! Come over the pond, too to celebrate your 50th in the States please!

This would be worth crossing the pond for! Can't wait until you guys are back Stateside!

I'd love to see them again. My father took me in 98 in New York, around the time I turned 18. I've never experienced anything like it. There's just something about that sound.

YES for Life. When the conversation mentioned that vinyl is enjoying a resurgence as a popular format, I laughed out loud when Steve said, "I doubt whether cassettes will come back." I am still bemused, when I recall that my very first car stereo proudly presented an 8-track cart. The very first music I played on that ancient contraption sounded like Bliss! It was "Close to the Edge" and I remember that moment like it was this week! I do have a nice turntable and among my very large vinyl collection there is a rotation of every YES album ever pressed. Their music is timeless as ever, in my opinion, and I primarily listen to their works every week. I miss Jon Anderson and of course, the greatest bass player in my life, certainly, the late and fabulous Chris Squire. Great to see Steve Howe and Geoff Downes, thank you for uploading this moment for us! I admit: I am one of those people still listening to *Drama*! I spin that album at least twice a month, but most of the time I listen on my iPod, in between. Must take care of this pristine and sacred YES vinyl. It was 2002 and 2004 that I last attended a YES Concert. What great times, indeed. Such incredible talent over the years, with all these great musicians.

@andrenewcomb3708

6 жыл бұрын

One thing that was neat about 8-tracks is that if you recorded over the tape and then played back . . . you could get an entire album with only a click between tracks . . . no flipping the disc and only a minor interruption.

Lmao when it said Steve Howe: Musician They have no idea

Always remembering Chris, these guys are some of the best musicians of the 20th century. I know the lineup has changed quite a bit, but it’s amazing that they’ve carried on despite switching band members often.

Steve Howe is a musicians musician -then some... I still think Drama was one of their best albums so Downes has earned his clout

@SandyPaper494

3 жыл бұрын

Drama has hidden depths , excellent album

@John-Laird

2 жыл бұрын

Drama is definitely in my top 5 favorite Yes albums.

@rushshukla4636

2 жыл бұрын

Drama is epic.

Kind of cool to hear Steve namecheck other bands from the era(even if he forgot to mention King Crimson).

Thanks Steve, Geoff, BBC and YesOfficial for the upload. Yes has been my fave since the mid-80's, tho due to the huge split in the band I am not as tightly following them...but still support all of them. So it's nice to see members doing public interviews like this. Keeps the fans connected.

They two were also in Asia with John Wetton, extraordinary bands and musicians.

See you in London in March!

@DarkEliteEric

6 жыл бұрын

simonal1989 how was it

Can’t wait to see you live in Birmingham

Great to see them still playing but like many miss Jon Anderson. Seen a bunch of times but the 'Union' tour was really cool for it featured a large Yes band doing a wide range of their material (and band played on a rotating stage). Saw that tour two nights in a row..

I saw the 50th anniversary concert at the Ford Theater in L.A. and I loved it. In fact, during Close to the Edge, right at the line that says, "From the hill i viewed the silence of the valley," I looked up, and at the top of the hill, there was a deer, viewing the silence of the valley in which the concert was taking place. You could see its silhouette. That was great. There is nothing like the live experience. At one show, as Jon Anderson sang the line, "My eyes have seen...," he tripped over a monitor, and I thought, your eyes didn't see that, but at the end he said, "It's a good thing we're all among friends here," and he got a standing ovation. At another show Anderson broke a string during Don't Kill the Whale. The live experience. But last year I also got to see ARW, and it was amazing as well. It was all Yes alumni and I loved it. But back to the Ford Theater show, it was great to see Tony Kaye as a guest. My thoughts and prayers to Chris Squire and Peter Banks. And by the way, on the day Banks died, I had just seen Yes the night before at the Orpheum Theater in downtown L.A., and considering the 8 hour difference, it could have actually happened while they were on stage. Wow! In conclusion, I'm looking forward to the August show in Irvine, which I have a ticket for, and... My thoughts and prayers to Chris Squire and Peter Banks, and their families as the greatest show on Earth continues to carry on. And, as a side note, I was on the 2013 Cruise to the Edge, and Chris was on the same shuttle boat I was on that returned the patrons from Grand Caymon Island to the ship. I'm only sorry I didn't talk to him.

My wife and I first saw Yes in 1976 went to gig in Manchester on 17th March they were fantastic brought back so many memories of their unique sound and live performance just hope we are young enough (and the band) to see them live again

Shine on Chris. I'm going to see Yes 50 at Riverbend in July. I only saw them once on Union tour at Riverfront colliseum. It won't be the same without but I want to show my thanks for their music that has helped and enhanced my life.

Great to see these two gentlemen on mainstream TV. I'm looking forward to seeing them on the 25th in London. One of the truly great and innovative bands from the '70s with an awesome repertoire - The Yes Album, Close to the Edge, Fragile. Magic.

First saw yes in north Devon at Steve’s first gig and Tony Banks was in the audience watching!!!

@Cr8Tron

6 жыл бұрын

The keyboardist of Genesis? There, watching a Yes concert!?

@GregorMortis420

4 жыл бұрын

@@Cr8Tron Yeah why not?

@Cr8Tron

4 жыл бұрын

@@GregorMortis420 Can't remember why I asked anymore, honestly. Maybe I just wanted to make sure I was reading right, regardless of how explicit it already would seem. Perhaps I was surprised that I wouldn't have already heard about it prior?

We met these gentlemen via a VIP pass to a concert a few years back. Their concerts are still amazing! Rock on gentlemen.

@genericusername1365

6 жыл бұрын

What was your impression of Howe when you met him? Some have reported that he's rude, while others have said he was a gentleman.

@mayemcdonald9111

6 жыл бұрын

John Anthony Cantergiani He seemed aloof but was pleasant enough.

I love that the live segment they showed first was Parallels, one of the best songs Chris Squire ever wrote. R.I.P.

This is Asia.

@andym28

3 жыл бұрын

Christopher Columbus must have said that.

@SandyPaper494

3 жыл бұрын

Saw what you did there !

got into the music of Yes after the R/R HOF show on HBO. Since downloaded loads of their music. Great group

Despite being British, I truly discovered 'Yes' in America through my American friends at the time. Was nice to see kids there embracing 70s music so much, and opened this world to me

@XXX_xxxxxxxx

Жыл бұрын

💜💜💜

cheers

Yes is one of my favorites band of all time I really like of steve howie álbuns solo too

Awful interview. No talk of Jon, and those two newscasters knew nothing of YES. And in the end they insult Steve about his age. Rubbish

@TheGlssr60

5 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised if they were specifically instructed to avoid the subject of Jon Anderson.

whoa - steve shook hands!

@genericusername1365

6 жыл бұрын

I noticed that at the end! I thought he NEVER shook hands? I noticed he only shook hands with the woman, maybe because he figured she wouldn't destroy his hand?

I once owned Steve Howe’s Bristol 411 S5. Very honoured.

steve's face at 6:06 fucking breaks my heart holy shit. what was that interviewer thinking saying that? to her it was probably funny but steve was probably thinking about how he had such a long life but his son died in his early forties. jesus christ.

@barrypeirson3710

Жыл бұрын

It's amazing He handled these ignorant questions with such grace.

Steve and YES had made a really great work of their lifes, respect

Stunning empathy and understanding from BBC Breakfast as usual.

Happy Birthday Chris Squire.. miss U

I'm sure they loved the Owner of a Lonely Heart comment. Personally, I loved the music no matter what the line up.

@markhaus2830

2 жыл бұрын

I agree!

Thank God ARW is coming to North America this year!

@cookmoore3736

6 жыл бұрын

Do they have their tour dates up?

@PeterRUnderhill

6 жыл бұрын

I saw them last year. They were great. Jon Anderson sounded great.

@PeterRUnderhill

6 жыл бұрын

Anderson, Rabin & Wakeman.

@tomtomstom2939

6 жыл бұрын

I'm not a Trevor fan. I wonder what the problem is with Anderson and the other guys.

@NewCastleIndiana

6 жыл бұрын

I can't find USA dates. link please.

i am seeing both versions of yes manchester with steve howe and stonefree festival with jon anderson so in for a treat with both bands

@genericusername1365

6 жыл бұрын

Smart man to enjoy both bands.

Those 2 media guys doesnt know a little bit about those 2 great music legends. Howe with a guitar is beyond our comprehension

Oh my, what a bonus: she mentioned curling. It was great seeing these guys out of their element (music performance) and relaxing and reflecting on the inner world of a truly epic band. They're touring, Elton John will be touring and of course, The Rolling Stones will be touring. What year is this? Fifty years. Wow!

Lenda!!! 😎👏👏👏👏👏

Hey Steve! I very much miss and cherish cassette tape.

I like that old guy. He's like a Jedi master or something.

Love Steve.

90125 stated the death of Yes in my ears, that album and all the following albums is nothing near what Yes was to me. I state: thats my opinion, others may think different. «Going for the one» is the last really great album in my opinion. I saw Yes in their 35 anniversary tour, fantastic concert doing the old stuff. The later conflict between Anderson vs Yes and now ARW vs Yes is just a sad story. Old men making the last part of their life a contest of sillyness as a profession. But, of course... they have all the rights to become enemies and to end their lifes as grumpy old men. I salute the creativity of Yes in their golden era, thanks for the entertainment and fantastic moments, bravo!!!!

@GregorMortis420

4 жыл бұрын

Same to me with Love Beach by ELP... and I do care buying/owning the best of their artwork...

@rushshukla4636

2 жыл бұрын

Yes modernised their sound and sold 10M records with 90125 which opened them up to a younger audience. Big Generator and Talk also did the same. Steve disses them coz he didn't play on those records but he was doing the same in Asia whose debut also sold 10M. I don't think Yes have made a bad album. They're a journey band and I appreciate the whole body of their works from Time And A Word to The Quest.

@barrypeirson3710

Жыл бұрын

90125 will grow on you. Just let it.

@agnosturaelwsr

Жыл бұрын

@@barrypeirson3710 Hi Barry, I've listened to it enough to say its not my kind of music.

Love yes

VÍVA YES▪○●□■☆★♡♥ VÍVA YES▪○●□■☆★♡♥ VÍVA YES▪○●□■☆★♡♥ GRACIAS POR SU MUSICA!!!!! GRACIAS POR EXISTIR!!!! FELICIDADEZ POR SUS 50 AÑOS DE VIDA COMO GRUPO DE ROCK!!! ESPERO VOLVER A VERLOS EN UN CONCIERTO EN MÉXICO!!!

Vinyl was one of three mediums along with 8-tracks and cassette tapes.

It's time to rediscover - and acknowledge - Peter Banks.

Irritating how she kept interrupting my favourite Amish farmer.

@cihanugur8973

3 жыл бұрын

This is funny 😄

One of the greatest bands I have not seen.A US tour anyone?

it was not my era when these guys were playing everywhere, and not even english is my language, but I love their music, the BEST MUSICIANS EVER. PINK FLOYD TOO! Best regards from Mexico!

i was terrified but I met and talked to Steve briefly.. I met Geoff. Billy and Juano.. Jon , Rick and Allan.. nice to see Steve smile!

@genericusername1365

6 жыл бұрын

Was Steve rude? There are quite a few people who have said that he sometimes is rude, so I'd like to hear if Howe was polite to you.

@gwensciora8516

6 жыл бұрын

i kept it short and sweet.. he is not the "warm & fuzzy type" but not rude..follow me on facebook.. i am always posting there...

@genericusername1365

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gwen.

@gwensciora8516

6 жыл бұрын

BTW . MY COPY OF FRAGILE IS ALSO SIGNED BY ROGER DEAN!

@genericusername1365

6 жыл бұрын

I'm jealous!

Host “...owner of a lonely heart....” Howe: “....”

Why are people so down on Steve Howe? Just the slightest little thing they don't like, and such negative comments. This interview is great! It doesn't matter whether the interviewers know Yes music or not, and it doesn't matter who played on which song. Yes is Yes, the top musicians around always. Howe and Downes were pleasant, affable, and unbeat, obviously happy with their lives, just touring playing Yes music. Maybe the people who criticize them aren't so happy.

Yes, I enjoy what Geoff has done in his career....but wanted to say Steve Howe! such a fantastic player! cheers!

I still play cassettes and records.

@skybluemarshall

4 жыл бұрын

Cassettes have been making a mini comeback over the past few years. Some artists have even produced limited runs of newer music in cassette, which is where cassettes excell, because they are relatively cheap to produce in small batches. Guardians Of The Galaxy films have played a big roll in the recent uptick of cassette sales. In 2018 about 118,000 cassettes were sold in the US. That might not sound like very much, but considering the fact that most companies in the U.S. stopped making cassettes in 2002, that's actually a lot for a music format that has been virtually dead for almost 20 years.

Steve Howe! Yesss

"Roundabout" [1971] is proved to be more popular with a wider audience on here.

Oh my goodness, Geoff Downes sounded like Chris Squire lol

@michaelstevens630

6 жыл бұрын

That Downes fellow looks like has been pigging Doughnuts - Hopefully they can arrange the keyboards on stage so he can get his belly behind all the Midi driven crap.

Steve Howe. Great guitar player 👍

@DannyBoi2112

3 жыл бұрын

One of the most underappreciated definetely

Ffs please put aside petty differences and get Jon back in the band. Yes of all people should know life is too short. Pathetic to have a singer pretending to be Jon. Honour the fact Chris has gone and get back the REAL Yes.

@derbystardom

6 жыл бұрын

Think about it. If Jon Anderson had never left Yes the way he did TWICE, he would still be on the band today!

@iatros5408

5 жыл бұрын

@@derbystardom Steve left also. The petty BS they argue about, who owns the rights to the Yes name is elementary school bs. Jon and Chris formed Yes, it's clear who the name should belong to. They kicked Jon to the curb when he was ill, and went out and replaced him. That's about as backhanded as you can be. Steve is amazing, he is the quintessential Yes guitarist....but, man....the feud is just dumb. Yes music is more than any of that, and if it's going to be played, it needs to be honored as such.

@ant2312

3 жыл бұрын

Jons voice has gone, go watch the Rock n Roll hall of fame induction

I'm glad Steve mentioned all the key people in that old picture & just happened to leave the lead singer out

@trsalmon

3 жыл бұрын

...oh...THAT guy?!

id like to say get ready for this. My fav early band was early genesis n zep. when i heard YES i was hooked. I now rate Yes with my early genesis. Steve Howe is along with steve hackett my fav guitarist. All my gear was vinl and to hear Yes going for the one was special. Awaken still haunts me as does mad man moon. To me Steve is remarkable cos he wants to teach. i bought all steve hackets albums but iv never searched him out. I played guitar for 28 years and i didnt get near steve howe. he really is a pleasure to listen to. Paralell lines ffs amazing. Tormatoe was nowhere near going for the one but i still listen to it. Thats it, i guess al just go back n jam with eric claptron n chuck

The clip was in the Bristol Hippodrome not the Cawsonall

Much-to-often failed to mention in live conversation of prog rock is The Moody Blues. Really not sure why, but it is become noteworthy of late. Alan Parsons Project is also too often excluded in the major prog rock category. Long live my most influential YES ! I suppose Jon & Trevor & Rick are working as the other half of YES.

@mayemcdonald9111

6 жыл бұрын

TangleF50 Good points made. I agree.

@thekitowl

6 жыл бұрын

Ohhh I hope they are 👍

"A musicians band" 1970 - 1976

@dukealbert7017

6 жыл бұрын

ProgNation *1977 gotta include GFTO

@starsandnobodys

6 жыл бұрын

Duke Albert recorded in 1976! Point taken tho.

@patricklauer4452

5 жыл бұрын

Duke Albert I like your username! :D

Was Chris playing a Precision on this?

@gtrDan1963

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Squire was on a Fender Jazz Bass for "Parallels". He also used the J-Bass on "Face To Face" from "The Ladder". Chris had a Precision Bass that he featured on the "Time And A Word" album and on parts of "Relayer".

Yes appeared at Interlochen National Camp outside Traverse City, MI, this summer - one of my sons bought me tix and I refused to go--especially considering how the band treated Jon Anderson.

MIS HEROES😊🎼 Howe guitargod

I'm so sorry Billy Sherwood, you are a great musician, the perfect man to step in and play those amazing bass notes, and I am a fan, but I am still in denial that Chris is gone, and it's been difficult to scrape up the money to go to a Yes concert, I think I want to go next time they come, but the thought of no Chris in Yes makes me gasp, but I guess the thought of never seeing Yes again is worse.

@genericusername1365

6 жыл бұрын

Go! Billy does a great job. He's no slouch of a musician.

"Best known for Owner of a lonely Heart"... I'd say they're probably better known for songs like Roundabout and Long Distance Runaround. Plus, she says that, but neither of them played on 90125.

Even though I got into Yes and a few related bands and bought dozen CDs, I haven't pay much attention to them since mid '90s and... WOW I mistook Geoff for Chris for a few seconds even though the name is in the title of the video... actually I thought "Hey staff, can't you tell the two apart?"... ok, it was me :p By the way, I did know that Chris is in heaven now.

Steve on a Strat, I love it.

Yes on mainstream tv!

Miss you Fish!

See you at Palladium Hall in March

Steve looks great lol;very kind of her...........

you have complete it

That's a nice band which features Jon Anderson, Peter Banks, Tony Kaye, Chris Squire and Bill Bruford. No, wait a second here... did I miss something?? ^^

Steve's beard indicates I am in a parallel dimension 🤔

@smitbar11

4 жыл бұрын

He looks a bit Amish or early Quaker or something

@howedelamitri

4 жыл бұрын

@@smitbar11 look up Spock's beard in Star Trek lore. Parallel dimensions ✌️

Hi Steve! Hi Geoff! Nice to see you. Interesting to hear that Jon Anderson left the group over 'musical differences' and Jon wanting to play 'other kinds of music'. I always thought that you had abandoned Jon when he was sick to death, and abandoned him some more after his fortunate recovery. That was when you decided to kick him out of the band and permanently engage his so-called stand-in. As a matter of fact, I still think you did this. Did you demand that the BBC presenters not ask questions about it? I think so too. Enjoy your 'spirituality'.

@paulstibora1123

6 жыл бұрын

Anderson highballed them and Squire told him to blow off.

@mickthenick1

6 жыл бұрын

And the facts that back up this highly original idea of yours are: 1. ............? 2. ............? 3. ............? Anxiously awaiting your reply, sincerely, MtN

Hey guys (including Jon, Bill, Rick, wherever you are): One of your fans here to wish you well during these ungodly days. Sorry to hear about Chris, by the way. He could've been a legend had he survived. Just my thoughts about it all, really. Nevermind. But all in all, keep safe and you are doing a great job as musicians, especially Mr Steve Howe, whom he is one of my reasons to play the guitar. Keep well!

@mike969696

3 жыл бұрын

Could have been a legend had he survived? Chris Squire survived for 67 years and is a legend!

@elizabethdiggar3115

3 жыл бұрын

He is a legend dead or alive just wish he was still here

“Like The Foo Fighters..” Steve: well, nooooot quite like that...

Without Jon? Without Chris? Quit milking it, gents. You can't even play it with the punch that it needs to be played. Pure Vegas!

@yesshows100

6 жыл бұрын

Yup. No more punch after 6/30/79. Last show of the Tormato tour. YES has gone from the greatest ever to a farce! They have played and sounded like crap for a long time. They don't care. I listen to YES 10/28/78, then I listen to the same guys in 2002. 1978 = $10,000,000,000,000,000. 2002 = $100

@magneto7930

5 жыл бұрын

I saw them a few times with Jon, I'd never see them without him.

@workingtitle7049

4 жыл бұрын

@@yesshows100 they're old now

How I wish they had real YES fans interviewing the band.

Great to see well these two monsters of progressive rock together. However I think the two BBC's presenters could be a bit more polite at ending the interview, couldn't they?

@Cr8Tron

6 жыл бұрын

They just don't wanna have the vegetarian life pushed onto them. Is that too much to ask?

They don’t make them like this anymore

They coulda literally chosen any other era of Yes where at least one of them playes on it. But they choose like the one album neither of them did.

Top level música, top level letters, top guitar s playing.... Man,I think people Today ignores what s music! I was dancing with them , pregnant if my firts baby. Now Un 63...💟💟💟

they should have discussed the ethereal nuance and sonic landscapes of albums like Tales From Topographic Oceans, or something.

Most people I know don't listen to yes, I don't get that. I have been a fan for over forty years, to me their songs are timeless. We have been spoiled for all the years they keep on going. They rank in the top ten favs of mine.

They must have people they can trust who are also very adept at moving from one place to another so that there's no confusion.