Garvey could hit for average, he had power, good glove, decent speed, and was a durable player. His teams went to multiple World Series', and was a clutch post season player.

@chocolatetownforever7537

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Go look up some of the all time greats who were first ballot hall of famers, and look their post season stats up. There are some ATROCIOUS playoff stats out there. Garvey was awesome in the postseason. TEN EFFING All stars, four gold gloves. I dont even care about Garvey or the LA Dodgers, but come on! Him not being in the Hall is one of the biggest Hall of Fame travesties in history. His highest percentage was 42 percent. 42 percent! Less than half, which is UNBELIEVABLE to me considering his resume. Its not all about homers, or number of hits, its about all stars and clutch performers in big games. Steve Garvey was that. We are all getting old, including him. Do the right thing voters, and dont wait until after hes dead like Ken Stabler had happen to him.

@papas12341

Жыл бұрын

@@chocolatetownforever7537 they're going by this WAR bullshit dude was awesome and clutch mvp of the league All-Star mvp world series champ guy never took a day off wtf do they want if he doesn't get hurt and retire he would've had 3000 hits

@chocolatetownforever7537

Жыл бұрын

@@papas12341 Amen.

@mantis10_surf85

3 ай бұрын

Garvey had a great glove and was badass in clutch games. I have a 1981 Steve Garvey first baseman’s mitt with Steve’s name on it and my name engraved. I’m an Amazing Mets fan but Garvey, Gil Hodges, and Keith Hernandez are my favorite First Basemen ⚾️. Garvey grew up in Florida, like me 🏄🏼‍♂️

Batting Average: 6 times in top 10 (2 times in top 5); RBI 7 times in top 10 (5 times in top 5); HR 3 times in top 10.Of course he should be in the HOF. And I disliked the Dodgers.

Garvey should be in the Hall just based on his class. He is still the poster child of what the MLB would love from all its players. His consecutive games played and MVP season and Alllstar MVPs. Its a crime Garvey is not in the Hall of Fame.

Garvey should be in HOF for his defense alone... When he retired, he had THE highest all-time fielding percentage for 1B, and today he is still Top 5 for 1B w >10k innings played. ⚾

I agree. Garvey should be in the hall of fame.

@csnide6702

Жыл бұрын

how...? .... doesn't have the numbers

@jamesmonteverde5538

Жыл бұрын

Hall of Fame, not Hall of Statistics. Besides, they just gave you his postseason and consecutive All Star appearances.@@csnide6702

@jimwerther

10 ай бұрын

​@@csnide6702 Absolutely belongs, no question whatsoever. The overemphasis on power and bias against more important parts of the game keeps out well deserving players like Garvey, Keith Hernandez, John Olerud, and Will Clark. All four were high OBP, brilliant clutch performers, and spectacular defensively, and if you think defense doesn't matter at first base, ask some managers about the dozens of errors they save each year on errant throws. Getting away from first basemen, the power bias kept Tim Raines out of Cooperstown for 8 or 9 years, which was insane. If that doesn't demonstrate the problem, I don't know what does.

@howie9751

10 ай бұрын

@@jimwerther He was very good, but he's not a baseball immortal.

@csnide6702

10 ай бұрын

@@jimwerther exactly... I don't like the racial bias either - how about a player with 2700 hits 400 steals a 21 year career with lifetime Batting avg. of .272 and 11 Gold Gloves at SS--- why isn't HE IN...?

Without a doubt, Steve Garvey should be in the Baseball Hall of Fame!

@howie9751

10 ай бұрын

Lots of doubt, borderline at best.

@gopherstate777

5 ай бұрын

@@howie9751 Really, 10 time all-star?

@howie9751

5 ай бұрын

@@gopherstate777 All-Stars are often just a popularity contest, or someone is picked because you have to have someone from every team, or someone else is injured.

The single biggest hit in Padres history in Game #4 of NLCS with homerun to right center.

@howie9751

Жыл бұрын

So should Bucky Dent be in the HOF?

@jamesmonteverde5538

Жыл бұрын

No, but the bat he used (Roy White) is.@@howie9751

@jimwerther

10 ай бұрын

​@@howie9751 The OP didn't say that was his reason for Garvey earning a trip to Cooperstown.

Garvey belongs in as does Don Mattingly!!!

@billkammerzell9082

18 күн бұрын

Not Mattingly either.

Lived in LA from 76 to 79 my two boys and my husband and I, never missed a home Dodger game. I absolutely LOVED Garvey ... had more fun at Dodger games than a Trump rally... He gave me and my family many many fantastic memories.

He should be in the Hall of Fame.

@csnide6702

Жыл бұрын

nope

@gopherstate777

5 ай бұрын

@@csnide6702 Why?

@csnide6702

5 ай бұрын

@@gopherstate777 not enough in numbers

Without a doubt Hall of Fame worthy!!! He put up power and hitting stats and was even better in the playoffs!

@Markdfadf

Жыл бұрын

No he did not hit for power. He has an OPS+ of 117. He was a singles hitter who didn't walk and played the least important defensive position. He is not even close to being a Hall of Famer and I think everyone who is close should go. I am not sure he is a Hall of Very Good player. He is a popular guy who fans and writers thought was better than he was because he hit around .300.

@bauerj3398

Жыл бұрын

Didn't really put up power stats. He was a 1st Baseman with one season of 30+ HR's, and less than 300 in career. His RBI's are not in the top 100. His slugging percentage is not in the TOP 500. His WAR and OPS+ are not good (not in the top 600 for WAR and barely in top 500 for OPS+). In effect, he was a 1st Baseman who hit more like a 2nd Baseman.

@jimwerther

10 ай бұрын

​@@Markdfadf Absolutely belongs, no question whatsoever. The overemphasis on power and bias against more important parts of the game keeps out well deserving players like Garvey, Keith Hernandez, John Olerud, and Will Clark. All four were high OBP, brilliant clutch performers, and spectacular defensively, and if you think defense doesn't matter at first base, ask some managers about the dozens of errors they save each year on errant throws. Getting away from first basemen, the power bias kept Tim Raines out of Cooperstown for 8 or 9 years, which was insane. If that doesn't demonstrate the problem, I don't know what does.

@jimwerther

10 ай бұрын

​@@bauerj3398 See what I wrote ^ above. Garvey should have been a shoo in.

@bauerj3398

10 ай бұрын

@@jimwerther No he shouldn't, and he wasn't.

Garvey should be in HOF. During his day everyone talked about him when they talked about the Dodgers and they were always in the hunt. He also had a nice stint with the Padres. No brainer.

It’s a shame that great defensive first basemen such as Steve Garvey and Keith Hernandez, who hit a ton, hit in the clutch and were stellar defensively have not been selected to the hall of fame.

@semperconstance

Жыл бұрын

Hernandez has a better case than Garvey.

@Markdfadf

Жыл бұрын

@@semperconstance An infinitely better case. Garvey is not borderline. If he got elected he would be in the bottom 10% of WAR for anyone in.

@bauerj3398

Жыл бұрын

They don't get a lot of credit for defense, because 1st base is the lowest valued defensive position on the field. As for Garvey, he was a good defensive 1st Baseman, but he hit like a 2nd baseman. His power numbers are not what people remember them as (HR's, slugging OPS+, RBI's, etc.) Hernandez, though having a better HOF case than Garvey, would still be one of the absolute weakest HOF 1st Basemen if inducted. His rate stats are much better than GArvey, and he was much better defensively (the only thing stopping him from playing 2nd or 3rd was throwing lefty) but his counting stats are nowhere near enough.

@jimwerther

10 ай бұрын

​@@bauerj3398 Counting stats?!!@%#&×!!! If Keith Hernandez isn't a Hall of Famer, they should pull out half the guys who are there currently.

@jimwerther

10 ай бұрын

Garvey, Hernandez, Olerud, and Will Clark. Put them all in. They helped their teams win far more than did flashier players like Jim Rice, who is in, and Sammy Sosa, who would have been if not for steroids.

Whuuuuuttt?!? I can't believe he's not in the Hall of Fame!!!

@csnide6702

Жыл бұрын

why would he be..?

Garvey belongs in The Hall. As do Maury Wills, Gil Hodges, Tommy John, Jim Kaat and Minnie Minoso.

There's a theory that one reason why Steve Garvey has been kept out of the Hall of Fame was due to the two paternity suits against him in 1989. Keep in mind that prior to that, Garvey had a very wholesome, conservative, clean-cut image. So the news of him being exposed as a cheating husband, who got two girlfriends pregnant simultaneously felt like a major betrayal.

@alonsolopez3541

4 жыл бұрын

No homo but Steve was a good looking cat, he got some ass so what..

@DrewFromNY

3 жыл бұрын

I remember that, too, but given all the shenanigans that other have engaged in since that time, he should be forgiven and voted in.

@t-squared6406

3 жыл бұрын

crazy,how off field that wasn't a crime or made either team he played for look bad,stop putting people on a pedastal,what he did on the field,he is a Hall of Famer,no doubt!!!!

@Mistachill

2 жыл бұрын

@@DrewFromNY Yeah I agree. Actually nothing to be forgiven for. That's between him and his family. If the hall of fame excluded players who cheated on their wives they could have the ceremony in a tour bus. Definitely screwed up his political aspirations but should have no impact on his hall of fame election. Get him in!

@Mistachill

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing. The media went to great lengths to prop up Garvey and probably felt duped when everything came out and they're making him pay. No logical rationale for not electing him. Total joke.

National League record 1207 consecutive game streak. Legendary Vin Scully once said Garvey is a right-hander Lou Gehrig during a 1977 broadcast. As a kid, I never forgot that. HOF all the way. (If same era Tony Perez is in the hall then Garv should be too)

@csnide6702

Жыл бұрын

look at the numbers .... Garvey doesn't have 3000 hits or 500 HRs or 1500 RBI or 300 steals or 10 gold Gloves ..etc.

@rifyrafi

Жыл бұрын

@@csnide6702 Neither does Tony Perez but he's in the HOF , plus Garvey batting avg is higher.

@bauerj3398

Жыл бұрын

If Scully said that, he was drunk that day. Garvey was not even in the same solar system as Gehrig. Why not just go all in and say Reggie Smith was a right-handed Babe Ruth.

@bauerj3398

Жыл бұрын

@@rifyrafi Those numbers provided mentioned by csnide6702 are some of the traditional numbers that would get you in almost automatically (ex. 3000 hits, 500 HR's, 1500 RBI's), etc., regardless of the rest of the resume. Those times have changed. That being said, Garvey is not on the same level as Perez. Yep, he has a higher average, for whatever that is worth. Meanwhile, Perez dwarfs him just about everywhere else: WAR, OPS+, hits, HR's, RBI's, OBP, Slugging, OPS,

@jimwerther

10 ай бұрын

​@@bauerj3398 Okay, and....? Perez played in Riverfront as part of the Big Red Machine. Garvey played on light hitting teams in cavernous ballparks. Not picking on Tony Perez, who is deserving, but so is Garvey.

Big injustice!!! He should be in!!

@csnide6702

Жыл бұрын

not enough

@onespeedlite

10 ай бұрын

@@csnide6702 Nope. He doesn't belong in the HOF.

@csnide6702

10 ай бұрын

@@onespeedlite don't get me wrong -- LOVE the guy . His autograph hangs on my wall... but Garvey does NOT have the numbers

He was the best first baseman for a decade. That isnt being taken into account as much as it should. Comparing 70s and 80s stats with the 00s and 10s isnt fair to them. If you account his success as part of a team, his playoff stats, his games played streak and throw in gold gloves and all star games it should be a given. Another interesting stat: Players that have 6 or more 200 hit seasons and how many are in or argueable should be in HOF Pete Rose 10 years Ichiro Suzuki 10 years Ty Cobb 9 years Lou Gehrig 8 years Derek Jeter 8 yeats Willie Keeler 8 years Paul Waner 8 years Wade Boggs 7 years Charlie Gehringer 7 years Rogers Hornsby 7 years Steve Garvey 6 years Stan Musial Sam Rice Al Simmons George Sisler Bill Terry Michael Young

@rediscoveryrecords1348

5 жыл бұрын

70s playerd have the lowest WAR of any decade. If you are one of the best or maybe top 2 of players at their position for a decade , you are the best at your generation. That alone deserves to be all u need. And i would guess 90% if not more wiuld say hes the best 1b of 1974-1984.

@jimwerther

10 ай бұрын

@rediscoveryrecords1348 Your first point is very accurate. The second one is meh.

@howie9751

10 ай бұрын

He was very good. But not one of the greats. Everyone wants their favorite players to be voted in.

@rediscoveryrecords1348

10 ай бұрын

If u are in the top 2 at your position for a decade , that means you were the best of your generation. From 1974 to 1983 Garvey was rhe best 1st baseman in either league. Just a side note bte. Garvey won 4 straight gold gloves. Then Keith Hernandez started winning them. He had like 8 or something. I was looking at the fielder statistics for those years. Garvey was better most of if not all those years if I remember correctly. Garvey probably should of won another 2-5 told gloves too. The veterans commiittee has something personal against him. Dave Parker also.

@marcstevens8576

9 ай бұрын

@@howie9751 Steve was "Great" when being with his infielders of the Dodgers from the early '70's to early '80,'s. Sure, he deserves the HOF, as does Lopes, Cey & Russell, on the idea of a Tinker to Evers to Chance idea. They were all great, however, one wasn't better than the other. This was proven after they all (except Russell) went on to play for different teams. ⚾

Garvey deserves to be in the MLB Hall of Fame!

@csnide6702

Жыл бұрын

not enough in numbers

As somebody who was a huge baseball fan in the 70's and 80's Garvey definitely should be IN. Was widely considered the best 1st baseman in baseball from 1974 to 1984 ....McCovey, Stargell, Hernandez, Rose etc fans might not agree but NONE of those guys did ALL of the following: Hit for power, average, won multiple gold glove, regularly played in all 162 games, and mashed in the post season (amongst the best post season numbers in fact) AND was a monster in All Star games when they actually mattered. Nobody who was a fan back then had any doubt they were watching a future HOF in Garvey.

@bauerj3398

Жыл бұрын

Garvey did not hit for power, at least not for HOF power as a 1st Baseman. He was a 1st baseman who hit like a second baseman, with the problem being, when it comes to the Hall, you are generally compared to players at your position. Garvey would be one of the absolute worst first basemen in the Hall, only ahead of the likes of Bottomley, Kelly, Chance, etc.)

Yes Steve should be in and so should Pete Rose

@t-squared6406

3 жыл бұрын

Dale Murphy,those 3 for sure!!!

he was my first sports hero, during his peak years he was one of the biggest stars in the game, my favorite player for a long time, he was consistent and he was clutch, but I think the problem was his era , while not the dead ball era, but it paled in comparison to what would happen in the 80's and 90's and so on. Also, his last really great year was when he was 31, after that alot of mediocre seasons, maybe if he had a couple more really good years, his chances might be better

@t-squared6406

3 жыл бұрын

he was dominant long enough,MVP,multiple All-Star games,Gold Gloves,game streak,great postseasons!

@papas12341

Жыл бұрын

Really he looked pretty good with the Padres made them a hole lot better

As maybe one of the biggest Dodgers fans of late 60’s-70’s i know how great Steve was. First issue is Steve was a 3rd baseman originally who didn’t fit in there so he lost like 3 years before he became the Dodger first baseman. So he would of had the magic 3000 hit marker for sure. He has more 200 hit seasons than almost anyone except a few greats. As someone who followed so closely every game in those days the big thing was Garvey “always “ got the clutch hits man. I mean you just can’t believe how clutch he was. Those 70 years the Dodgers & Reds fought it out every year. Steve was every bit as good or better than the 4 Red hof Rose Bench Morgan & Perez. He probably will not get elected cause they go by numbers but anyone who knows knows he’s a all time great. Vin Scully maybe the most respected of all i’m sure knew. He was great to watch and follow. Great sports memories from him.

Never heard of this guy until today but if you are a 10 time allstar, and NOT a hall of famer... that's lunacy. That's a fuckin' DECADE of ALL-STAR.

@TheVCRTimeMachine

Жыл бұрын

I am a Detroit Tigers fan. Bill Freehan was their catcher for 15 years and went to the All-Star Game 11 times, but I would never in a million years tell you that I think he should be in the Hall of Fame. His stats just don't equal a HOF career. Neither do Garvey's.

@semperconstance

Жыл бұрын

Garvey was a very good 1b, who had the advantage of a large voter base in LA and SD. In reality, out of the 10 All-Star games he was selected to, he probably only deserved to be selected to 7 of them. Still very impressive, but not necessarily HOF worthy.

Leaving aside his personal life, which obviously was a mess, he actually was a very limited athlete. He never slugged .500 in any season, had a very low on base percentage, had 6 different 200 hit seasons without scoring 100 runs (which is astounding and shows you how slow he was), and the general thinking is that he was a not a good thrower. Having said that, my first recollection of Steve Garvey was the O.J. Simpson case, where he and his wife had attended the recital of O.J.'s daughter, and Steve's wife testified to O J.'s demeanor that night. That's one thing that Steve and O.J. had in common: they both had reputations for squeaky clean images that bore so little resemblance to the lives they lead. Granted, there's a huge difference between impregnating so many different women and murder but still.

@jtjurje357

3 жыл бұрын

A good summary of the case against his induction - I've looked over his stats just now and can't believe how underwhelming they are. I guess as a kid watching him I was taken in by the show because I remember him being much better than he was. And his walks were quite pathetic 429 in 9466 career played appearances. Also his career WAR was only 38.1, several notches lower than Kent Hrbek's 38.6. Yeah, hard pass.

@michaelconnor5378

3 жыл бұрын

I never knew this about the recital. The two met a long time earlier. It was on the football field. Garvey was a Spartan linebacker and Simpson was of course a Trojan. In the game, Garvey went to tackle Simpson and only came away with some jersey. Simpson had a tear away jersey. Hey, helped him win the Heisman!!

@millypoo7713

2 жыл бұрын

Garvey was not slow. The reason he didn't score 100 runs in a season is because he didn't walk very much.

@jscottrockford

Жыл бұрын

@@jtjurje357 WAR is a stat invented by nerds……..actually watch the games and you’d see Garvey was a HOF player

@jimwerther

10 ай бұрын

@MatthewBuffardi I've been writing comments up and down this comment section that four first basemen should be in: Garvey, Hernandez, Olerud and Will Clark, and my argument was high OBP, super clutch, and brilliant defensively. You just stuck a big, fat hole in my Garvey argument. .329 OBP? Yowsh. I just checked it up because of what you wrote. Okay, now I'm getting a little wobbly on Garvey. That said, he was a brilliant clutch hitter and excellent defensive first baseman. But that .329 OBP absolutely bothers me.

I had my baseball blossoming in LA during the late 70"s and early 80's and there were few better and more consistent players in baseball than Steve Garvey. He could hit average, for power and in the clutch. He was a much better than average fielding first basemen. He was durable. He was an all-star. He continuously performed in the post-season. His numbers are just as good and if not better than other players of his era who are in the HOF. Joe Morgan and Tony Perez come to mind.

HALL OF FAME FOR SURE....

The Garv, is the Man. Total Class in every way, player, teammate, Family man, athlete, famous and gracious. God Bless Steve.

@jaypaulauskas7108

Жыл бұрын

Judge Not. Unless you……...

@jimwerther

10 ай бұрын

​@@jaypaulauskas7108 Family man?!!! Bwahahahahahahahahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

One of my favorite players as a kid; the "Reggie Incident" at first base is still ingrained in my mind after 46 years. Borderline hall of famer, but then, if Phil Rizzuto is in, then Garvey should be in.

I can certainly understand the frustration that Steve Garvey has because he definitely should be in the Hall Of Fame. I haven't always gone along with some players tooting their own horn, but in Garvey's case, it is justified.

Steve Garvey was way better and had a better career than a lot of people in it

He was our hero,,,,

For sure! Put Garvey in the HOF! He also did it without steroids. Rice and Dawson got in. They had better stats, but I view Garvey as the overall better player when I look back on his career. Great player who also really good in the playoffs who made his teams better.

@jimwerther

10 ай бұрын

Rice shouldn't be in. Dawson pbly shouldn't be either. Media is obsessed with homers, not with winning baseball.

I’m from Wisconsin and Steve Garvey was my favorite player growing up in the 70’s

I thought he was in until recently and it blew me away. I think if he’d gotten to 3,000 hits he would’ve been in.

Garvey was the best 1B of his generation - he's an HOFer!

I agree that Garvey should be in the HOF. I think the HOF is super political and Garvey was just a ball player. He also may suffer from being remembered in retrospect as a piece of the “Greatest infield” Dodgers in the 70’s. That retrospect certainly glosses over how great of a player Garvey was individually. There are HOF cases for Cey and Lopes as well…

Unfortunately, players that just put up good career statistics get in, as if we have robot judges. They don’t care if you are a winner, hit good in the clutch, and postseason. That’s only good in the NFL, where players like Kurt Warner are in the HOF. Steve Garvey was a better player than Mark McGuire for example, but the statistics would say otherwise.

He deserves to be in the hall of fame.

There was no doubt in my mind that Steve was already in the HOF, it was kinda a given. I was and am a Reds fan but my dad loved the Dodgers and Steve was a great player he should be in without a doubt.

A Grand Slam Winner...This man should B in the Hall of Fame... Voting for Garvey in Ca Senator VOTE 3/5/24

From 1974 to 1980, Steve put up HOF stats. Six (6) 200+ hit seasons, 5 seasons of 100+ RBI's, and 6 seasons of .300+ batting average. Excellent stats. However, for a lifetime, he never had 3,000 hits or 500 hrs. For the voters, having one or both of those 2 metrics would automatically get you in. Other players (aside from catchers, shortstops and 2nd basemen) have gotten in missing both of those marks. Tony Perez and Kirby Puckett come to mind. Steve never put up the big power numbers over a career like Stargell, McCovey or Gehrig, and, unfortunately, the voters are measuring him against the other 1st basemen in the hall.

Not only should Steve Garvey be in the baseball Hall Of Fame, He should be in the U.S Senate! Cmon Kalifornia! PUT HIM IN!!!

Great player and he likely gets in to the HOF at some point. The challenge is that he wasn't the MOST dominant player at his position for 10-12 years but he was damn good for quite a while.

@t-squared6406

3 жыл бұрын

an MVP,multiple All-Stars,Gold Gloves,not a league leader,but great combo of aveg,power

@chocolatetownforever7537

Жыл бұрын

He was pretty damn close to being the most dominant at his position, but lets assume he wasnt for arguments sake. Being the MOST dominant isnt a prerequisite to be in the Hall, nor is it logical criteria. How many players can say they were THE MOST DOMINANT player at their position for TEN TO TWELVE YEARS lol? Theres only a handful of guys that can even come close to saying that, and there are HUNDREDS of guys who are in the hall that cant say they were. No offense, buts dumb reasoning on your part, and you certainly dont know much about baseball.or logic if you dont recognize how good Steve Garveys career was lol. Dude was one of the best first baseman of ALL TIME, and certainly of his era. Go look up his playoff stats, against the best teams, and compare them to some of the guys you talk about dominating for ten to twelve years. He dominates them lol. Smarten up sir.

@SopranoPizzaJMFNJ

Жыл бұрын

@@chocolatetownforever7537 No. No he doesn't. Mind you, I'm actually a fan and believe he is HOF worthy but he wasn't better than Stargell or Hernandez. Personally I would take McCovey over Garvey and the Tony Perez conversation would be an interesting one as well. Hell, Fred McGriff was from a different era but he hit close to 500 HR's and he isn't in. Cecil Cooper in his peak years was probably better and I think Rod Carew would be considered a better player by most, though I would take Garvey ahead of Carew on my own team if I had to choose.

@amp2425

Жыл бұрын

Will never get in .. as long as hof players are voting

@jimwerther

10 ай бұрын

​@@SopranoPizzaJMFNJ Hernandez > Garvey, although Hernandez actually said something like Garvey should be in before he, Keith, gets in. But Hernandez's OBP is in a different stratosphere than Garvey's.

Absolutely 💯 should be in!

All Star voting in those days was a popularity contest. Garvey was a light hitting 1B who never slugged .500 or better in a single season. Hit 30 home runs just once and had a bad on-base.

@bananaspartan2234

5 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't call him light hitting (yes he never slugged .500 but he had ..498, .499, and .497 slugging seasons) He also didn't strike out a lot. Part of that was swinging early in the count (not being very selective), but he hit a lot of balls on the nose. I'm also not sure about people calling him selfish. There are people who called him (and Cal Ripken) selfish for playing every day to continue a consecutive games streak. Garvey played in the NL his whole career, and didn't have the benefit of DHing to keep his streak alive. Granted, he did have a few PH appearances and late inning appearances at 1B. But being ready to play every day shouldn't be counted as selfish. Garvey would also bunt when asked (sometimes on his own), and was an excellent hit and run batter. I will concede that his regular season numbers don't quite add up to HOF-worthy. I do believe his post-season numbers (and appearances) lend credence. Then, there are two ways to argue it. He went to the playoffs 5 times in his career. Each time, he went to the World Series. In each NLCS (except 1977), he hit huge HRs that helped them win games. In the 1981 NLDS, he hit a huge HR off Nolan Ryan. In the 5 World Series he played, he hit well, overall, but not for much power. Had he hit as well in the World Series and helped his team win at least 3, then I think he'd have gotten over the hump as a HOF. Overall, I think he was a heck of a player, but just short of being a HOFer. Not by much, but his not being in tells me the HOF is reserved for great players, not very good players.

@t-squared6406

3 жыл бұрын

30 HR's was a big deal then,great combo of avg/power for his time,low K's,won an MVP,Gold Gloves,game steak,great in the postseason,had slot of scarifices,lots of hardware,lots of statsHOF'er!!!

As a baseball fan in the seventies and a dodger fan I seen all the first baseman in baseball at the time and none were better defensively, and his hitting was really good, his all star appearances alone in my book should put him in, best first baseman ever in my book

@bauerj3398

Жыл бұрын

His defense was nowhere near as good as Hernandez. As for 'best first baseman ever', that is one of the more nonsensical things I have ever seen on KZread.

How many other first basemen have had an errorless season?

Why haven’t the Dodgers Retired Steve Garvey’s Number yet?

@thomasjefferson2813

4 жыл бұрын

He isn't in the hall of fame although he should be

@robertweingartner2055

4 жыл бұрын

The Dodgers only retire the number of players who make the baseball Hall of Fame, with the exception of Jim Gilliam.

@Jiltedin2007

4 жыл бұрын

Robert Weingartner I always cringe every time I see Any Dodger wearing Number 6(Including Manager Joe Torre). To me, Number 6 will always belong to Steve Garvey!

@Jiltedin2007

Жыл бұрын

@@robertweingartner2055 And Fernando Valenzuela, am I correct? If the Dodgers can retire Valenzuela's number 34, why can't they retire Steve Garvey's number 6? Valenzuela will never find his way to Cooperstown, and it's such a travesty to see Garvey's number 6 retired in San Diego but not in Los Angeles!

"Dan Patrick has a charismatic personality" said nobody ever.

God bless Mr. Garvey......

Thanks for the memories sir !!!!! Lol

I thought he was in the Hall of Fame until recently when I checked Baseball Reference. I'm surprised he's not in the HOF.

He doesn't need a certificate to be an All Star player. He is.

If Ozzie Smith, Joe Morgan, and other good players of his era are already in HOF, he deserve to be in it by now. Why the voters overlook him? I don`t know.

He played in 5 World Series, 4 with the Dodgers and one with the Padres.

I was never a huge fan of Garvey, but the stats are really indisputable. He should be in the Hall.

It's the comparable of Lynn Anderson not yet being in the Country Music Hall of Fame - unfathomable.

@csnide6702

Жыл бұрын

I loved Lynn anderson .. but she had ONE SONG.

@clapolla

Жыл бұрын

@@csnide6702 Perhaps you should do some research. She had 5 #1, 18 Top-10, and 50 Top 40 HITS. She had one song that was a once-in-a-career song for any artist if they're lucky. It was a country song that crossed over to pop and went No.1 around the world. First female artist to headline & sell out Madison Square Garden, Billboard's artist of the decade (70-80). One song, my ass. Again, do some research before you make ignorant statements.

@ChadWalker-nu9dt

Жыл бұрын

@@csnide6702 "One song" that crossed genres and went #1 worldwide. The others were just regular #1s. Other artists should be so lucky to have this problem. lol She was huge when I was a kid.

@csnide6702

Жыл бұрын

@@ChadWalker-nu9dt Oh.. She was definitely a HUGE country star in those days - I myself as a young boy had a BIG-TIME crush on her- so not meaning any disrespect.. but a Hall of Famer...? I'm not so sure .

@ChadWalker-nu9dt

Жыл бұрын

@@csnide6702 I just naturally assumed she was already in the Country Music Hall of Fame until I read the post that started this. Anyway, we'll agree to disagree. Take care

Does any footage exist of him playing third base for the Dodgers?

I enthusiastically agree That Steve Garvey should be in the Hall of Fame

Absolutely, no question about it. Same with Tommy John and Luis Tiant.

He should be in there!

Those #### NUMBERS & 1 Round Of Playoffs, & If Won,.. World Series !!!!

It has to be personal. His persona as "Mr. Clean" seemed to rub some people the wrong way. That's my only guess. He absolutely belongs in the HOF. Go Padres.

He is a H.O.F Baseball Player. No question about it.

GIVE IT TO HIM!

He should for sure

More 200 hit seasons than Tony Gwynn. Enough said. Three straight gold gloves. That he is not in, while a dozen others I could name are, is an outrage.

He should be in the HOF

Ron Cey was widely considered to have been more valuable to the Dodgers over that same time period.

.... and he helped get the Padres to the World Series after all those years doing the same with the Dodgers.

He belongs in the HOF.

Steve Garvey is a Dodger forever!

The Big Red Machine respected Garvey!

I thought he was in lol

@danielgreen7050

3 жыл бұрын

Me too!!!!

How is Harold Baines in the HOF and Steve Friggin Garvey isnt?

@billkammerzell9082

18 күн бұрын

Baines should not be. Neither should Garvey. We shouldn't use the LCD.

@jimmyplenderleith9471

17 күн бұрын

@@billkammerzell9082 I agree with you on both..Its a Hall of Very Good players now, not a Hall of Fame. But I am saying If Harold Baines is in, based on him, Steve Garvey should be. Im sure one of those piss-ant writers that couldnt play HS baseball but somehow get to vote on who goes to professional Hall of Fame had an issue with him

Next to Cal Ripken , Steve Garvy would be on my all legend team.

Agree. Hall of famer with Keith Hernandez also

Its so disgusting that this man isnt in the Hall.

If Harold Baines is in there. Garvey absolutely deserves to be in the Hall.

@billkammerzell9082

18 күн бұрын

Baines was a new low. Lets not go there.

He should be in.

How do u compare Garvey to matingnothing?

If Mike Piazza who couldn't throw or catch made it certainly Garvey should be in the HOF . If Gary Carter made it certainly ''The Garv'' should be in the HOF.

Garvey is all round player than Cepada and Perez for instance 1b, Also Parker, Munson, Mattingly, kaat, John, conception,

And the league had a dead ball during his time 25 to30 plus home runs was awsome back then

Part of a Great infield for a record number of years, also the leader of the for with over 30 hrs

Man, Al Oliver has a better claim to being a Hall of Famer than Garvey, but you don't hear him out there smugly carrying on about how he should be in the HOF. Oliver Career WAR = 43.7 Garvey Career WAR = 38.0 Oliver; 2743 H, .303/.344/.451 Garvey 2599 H, .294/329/.446 They've both been on the same number of World Series championships...And Gold Glove Awards and number of All-Star Game MVPs, consecutive games played....none of that is a good metric for determining whether you are Hall of Fame worthy. Awards are subjective. Garvey gets more noise about being a Hall of Famer, because he played in Los Angeles while surrounded by a great group of teammates like Rick Monday, Ron Cey, Reggie Smith, Don Sutton, Tommy John, Doug Rau. If he had played for the Rangers his whole career everyone would have forgotten about him a long time ago.

Ridiculous that he isn't in the Hall.

A 10-time all-star that didn't cheat, didn't think that was possible to not get into the HoF.

Biggest HOF snub in history...........

Garvey is my all time favorite player.And I believe he should be in the Hall.Especially by now..What is keeping him out is (A) His onbase percentage is a bit weak..(B) and this is the most important one) He cheated on his wife and had a few paternity suits against him.All the while he was portrayed as the ultimate baseball "Good" guy..His nicknames were "The Senator" because people just assumed he had a great political career ahead of him.And Capt. America.Which speaks for itself.Back then he even had a school named after him.So unfairly people felt betrayed by him

@TheVCRTimeMachine

Жыл бұрын

He also has a career war of 38.0 which is less than Troy Glaus, Bill Madlock, and Rico Petrocelli to name a few. And if you think WAR is just a flawed, modern stat, it's worth noting that the Top 5 in WAR all-time are Babe Ruth (183.1), Walter Johnson, Cy Young, Barry Bonds, and Willie Mays. It's actually a fantastic stat for measuring a player's value and Garvey doesn't cut the mustard.

@cheddarcheese7928

Жыл бұрын

@@TheVCRTimeMachine I hear you..But if intangibles count Garvey had quite the pedigree..An MVP, 10 time all star, 5 top 10 mvp votes, a bunch of golden gloves..And was the clubhouse leader for a great Dodger legacy that produced World Series championships..And he may have been the best 1B of his generation as well

I hated Steve Garvey as a Reds fan....dude should be the hof

He is viewed the same way as an insurance company looks at speeding tickets. A guy gets two in a year and his rates go up. The premise is how many times did he speed and not get caught. Steve's extra marital affairs with pregnancies didn't bode well with the apple pie image baseball markets. Stats are only a part of the equation. Ask Pete Rose.

@denistuohy2535

3 жыл бұрын

I agree same reason why Doc Gooden isn’t in although I think it’s BS if it’s the baseball hall of fame then judge the player not the person within in reason if the kill someone or get arrested for screwing around with an underage girl that’s different but if it’s for coke or affairs then I think that’s just a “shit happens” kind of thing not everyone is Honus Wagner or Cal Ripken Jr

@97NikeSb

3 жыл бұрын

Pete rose broke the biggest cardinal rule then lied for years and then agreed to be banned for life. Steve deserves to be in and he is apart of a long list of people who deserve it

@Mistachill

2 жыл бұрын

So let's retroactively remove all HOFers who cheated on their wives. We can have the 2022 ceremony in somebody's backyard.

He should be in the Hall of Wife Beaters for sure. But his baseballs stats just don't grab anyone who's serious.

how is Jim Rice in the HOF and Garvey isn't.?

How is Harold bains in there? And Garvey isn't?

Harold Baines in really Scot Rolen good player but really before The Garv

Steve Garvey and Dave Parker… can’t understand how neither are in HOF…. Or Pete Rose (time to forgive him… he was a great player!)

It missing wonder why Harold Baines is in the Hall of Fame and Garvey isn't