Stuttering John would have been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame if only Howard wrote the liner notes to his album

29:48 Howard: "If someone offered you hundreds of thousands of dollars to break up with me and go join someone else, would you do it? Hundreds of thousands of dollars" Dabbling John: "No." Leno: "Hold my beer."

@YES-IM-TROLLING

Жыл бұрын

Lol I was thinking the same thing lol... they offered join 500k a year i think it was.... they should of replayed this clip that day he was leaving Howard lol... it would of been golden

@johnk5825

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, John was speaking about another radio show, being on late night TV hosting the tonight show is in another orbit. Even Howard has said John had to take that deal.

@johnfranklin8319

Жыл бұрын

@@johnk5825 “To be fair”?…..SJ would have taken any deal, working anywhere, doing anything, for hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.

@johnk5825

Жыл бұрын

@@johnfranklin8319 True, so would I, anybody would. That's a boatload of money. Just saying at that time John had no idea he would one day be hosting the tonight show.

@JudgeReinhold626

Жыл бұрын

@@johnk5825 you think he’s hosting it lol the point is he said he wouldn’t do it and then did it.

Podcasting, comedy, music, writing a novel! He’s a jack-of-all-dabbles.

@thomasleblanc9024

Жыл бұрын

And he wrote for Kareem Abdul whatever roast

@danielhaddock91

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasleblanc9024 he’s never mentioned it!

@echo-cb9st

Жыл бұрын

Ahhhahaa exactly

@zacharyspurlin957

Жыл бұрын

Hey relax… he’s still just dabbling to identify his true talent! Everybody else seems to have figured it out already, but one day he’ll learn to embrace the doltard within himself.

@johnfranklin8319

Жыл бұрын

Luckiest man in the world, an unpaid intern who made Howard laugh because he stuttered.

Ronnie the Limo driver calling someone else a user is priceless 😂😂

@earthsucks9555

Жыл бұрын

How is Ronnie a user? Not trying to argue with you, I’m genuinely curious. Scores?

@bossking9490

Жыл бұрын

That’s what I’m guessing is scores and the block party.

@cultfilmfreakreviews

Жыл бұрын

@@earthsucks9555 are you kidding? Ronnie was the biggest user in the world with those block parties that were hitched onto Howard's rear end more than anything anyone ever did...

@earthsucks9555

Жыл бұрын

@@cultfilmfreakreviews is that using Howard somehow? The people who attended knew Howard wasn’t there. They wanted to see a shit show that Howard would discuss the next Monday. If anything the Block party gave Howard tons of material. Just my opinion. What does it say when your funniest contributor isn’t a comedian or writer? Its a retired limo driver

@rapman5791

Жыл бұрын

Every connection that Ronnie has is because of his relationship with Howard. In his defense , so is everyone else that works on the show and receives fringe benefits from it. It’s just that for Ronnie to call someone else a user when he does the same exact thing is the ultimate irony. IMO

30.00 Howard asks if he would leave Howard for hundreds of thousands of dollar per year, he said no. Jay Leno heard this and made the call😅

I love how after all this shit, John's album 💣 bombed terribly

@bigmoose99

Ай бұрын

Howard loving every minute of it

@CelestialWoodway

2 күн бұрын

Because Howard didn't appear in the video. 😂

How glorious that when John was with Howard - Howard refused to write the liner notes for John's album or be in the video. Two things the record company was counting on, and are the entire reason they gave him a deal. Then when John was with Leno - Leno refused to be involved in John's movie in any way, then refused to write the foreword to John's book. Once again, the only reason John got the book and movie was the money people assumed Leno would do stuff for it. Nothing's better than John's plans being destroyed.

@cdwieneke7722

9 ай бұрын

John got a movie deal!?!?

@jasoncoffmanandhunterjimmithy

8 ай бұрын

I love watching John crash and burn

@psfanboy79

8 ай бұрын

Leno had a little skit covering the opening of Johns movie.

@fudgicle1427

8 ай бұрын

@@psfanboy79 Yes that's true, I was thinking more of the making of the movie. John fully expected Leno to cut him a fat check. Yet another disappointment for the slobbering mongo.

@severinks8887

4 ай бұрын

John put up his own cash along wih some mafia types for a movie called one, too many that he wrote and STARRED in and it bombed hard. He even paid to have National Lampoon put heir name on it. John played a guy in a relationship with two hot women.@@cdwieneke7722

The only reason why they gave him a deal was because of Howard they just wanted the free advertisement and the record still failed

@mysonandme8424

Жыл бұрын

Failed is a bit of an understatement.

@andrewgeraci8798

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheTrouserPuppetsOfficialbut like Jackie's songs, it was #1 in the jukeboxes in Bayville

@jrn2121

7 ай бұрын

@@andrewgeraci8798cold gold baby!

@andrewgeraci8798

7 ай бұрын

Ha! That's the funniest line of bullshit and, considering Jackie's 'businesses', there's probably something dumber

@michaelfowler5760

3 ай бұрын

Atlantic Records doesn't need advertising.

Stuttering John was the luckiest guy ever and totally screwed everything up

@quiksix25

Жыл бұрын

He did well for himself on The Tonight Show, of course now it's all gone

@dalmatia1

11 ай бұрын

He got a huge paycheck from Leno - made way more than if he stayed w Howard

@quiksix25

11 ай бұрын

@@dalmatia1 Not a chance, Howard rewards loyalty and Howard Stern still on the air, Jay's been off the air since 2014- if John stayed on Howard that's going on 10 years of paychecks that he would be getting- that definitely would make up for the short term boost he got from Tonight Show

@user-zv7lm8uk7h

11 ай бұрын

@@quiksix25 John lived in a multi million dollar home in LA because of Leno. Stern is.... well we know what howerid is. Look at JDs life. Rewarded?

@tookiezzz2898

10 ай бұрын

not as lucky as Gary

John looks like such a clichéd tryhard in the thumbnail.

@marybetheby5184

Жыл бұрын

That's his whole life..

@slix96

Жыл бұрын

Looks like a Janis Joplin impersonator

@ralphsberry

Жыл бұрын

Slush

@HardCase1911

Жыл бұрын

He so thought it was Eddie vedder. Most of his songs are weak Alice in chains rip offs.

@azs7000

Жыл бұрын

you can the music's shitiness through the thumbnail lol it's actually terrible

Howard never ceased being AMAZED by his own generosity while the back office talent could barely afford to eat. (Quite frankly.)

@kiowahorse2561

Жыл бұрын

What back office "talent"?

@mysonandme8424

Жыл бұрын

Talent...lol.

@Music-qt3ok

Жыл бұрын

Pat Cooper called them slaves

@mulemule

Жыл бұрын

@@Music-qt3ok 😂

@kiowahorse2561

Жыл бұрын

Why do you and people like you have this opinion? All SJs and grillos(borderline slow) that came and went were talentless and CHOSE to participate being the butt of a joke on the show thinking it would lead to fame. So in essence, both parties knowingly used each other.

Todd!! You're a God!! Welcome back... WE SPEAK YOUR NAME!

@Landrew1208

Жыл бұрын

I constantly listen to all of those hours of Jackie audio. Thank you!

On a different show Howard asked John "didn't I get a bunch of record company guys to give your music a listen and to give you a break?" John said yes.

@Kee2Oz

Жыл бұрын

Mutually beneficial for the record label because of Stern's mentions, but massively beneficial to John for having everything given to him without even having talent. He's always had everything given to him on a silver platter. He hasn't made much of anything from all the breaks he's been given and on top, he's an ingrate to everyone who's ever helped him.

@Music-qt3ok

Жыл бұрын

@@Kee2Oz the album wasn't bad.

@copheart

Жыл бұрын

@@Music-qt3ok It wasn’t bad, it was worse than bad. It was forgettable. Sounded like he was trying to be Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, and Candlebox all at the same time, and ended up sounding like boring dredge with no soul. There were a few bands like that but at least they made it on their own, instead of riding off of Howard’s coattails.

@Music-qt3ok

Жыл бұрын

@@copheart of course it's not going to be as good as those bands, but it had a few good songs on it.

@nm7891

Жыл бұрын

@@copheart you must not know much about hard rock music. John's music is pretty great and also respected in the industry. He was held back and gooved on because he was stuck with the image of being a joke on Sterns show. If the music was released and no one knew it was john from stern it could have been massive

“And I know the day will come you will look back and say that Howard was a skunk… I did it all myself” How true and accurate… only that John didn’t make it but still. He even took the hundred thousands

@johnfranklin8319

Жыл бұрын

Howard didn’t have to do one thing for that album, the one and only reason SJ got that record deal was because he was on the Howard Stern Show, period.

Keep up the '94 uploads.

Can't do enough for a guy who won't do for himself

Has anyone ever listened to his album , I’m gonna try it at work tomorrow. I can imagine him now lumbering to his mailbox every month to retrieve the 5 cents in royalties he might still be getting off of it.

@bigmoose99

Ай бұрын

I assume you were escorted by security from your job and now work for the Shuli network

Notice he doesn't stutter once. In this same time period, John appeared on Conan. When he talked to Conan John put on a heavy stutter. The worst I've ever heard him stutter. He's a corn-swaggler.

@bigmoose99

Ай бұрын

If he faked the stutter that’s actually the pinnacle of his career

Time has proved just how smart Howard was/is. No matter what you say now, in 94 to preserve your brand for scarcity not even imagining the future decades of continues growth esp. the future contracts $$$$$$ he proved it.

@edwardfetner2513

11 ай бұрын

it sounds psychotic here but with hindsight i agree he was absolutely a genius for that

Is this THE Todd Packer? I literally listen to your hours and hours and hours and hours of Stern show compilation everyday

@evilsWa

Жыл бұрын

Why are people so impressed that somebody figured out how to hit the upload button?

@PhilMiCoochie

Жыл бұрын

@@evilsWa I have a hard drive filled with 100s of hours of compilations he has put together. None of which are on KZread.

@Hilz28

Жыл бұрын

@@evilsWa Why are you being a troll? Thank Jesus people take the time to upload this stuff, or we'd be screwed

@alavro15

Жыл бұрын

I’m wondering the same thing! Best Stern compilations ever.

Welcome back man!!! Like a long lost friend you ain't seen in a while, you can't help but smile 😁🍻

@Jobberwocky

Жыл бұрын

We much Mugs oops Aww p😊like y

@mr.stabulous9830

23 күн бұрын

@@Jobberwockyc go tvcncmm by😊

John asking Howard to do all that shit for him literally proved Howard's point about John only getting that record deal for airtime on the show lol. Absolutely nothing to do with his "talent".

John is the apitamy of being at the right time and place. To be on Srern show in the 90s it didn't matter how mediocre u were. Like Jackie's comedy and Fred's band.

@hamupinhere

Жыл бұрын

Had Stern not surrounded himself in such mediocrity, you could almost have all the makings of an interesting "The Howard Stern curse" documentation, alas it's only obvious why no one goes on to any post-Show success. If I'm not mistaken, Scott Einziger might be the only one who made anything of himself.

@hamupinhere

Жыл бұрын

I can't see the comment that replied to me, but I wanna reply to them about what an idiot I am for forgetting about Billy West lol. I'd say Richie Wilson did about as good for himself as maybe Scott Depace or Doug Goodstein (all went to RevoltTV), which just means they were able to find stable work, so it's hard to classify that as "success" in the terms which I've not-yet-established: achieving both a higher status in entertainment while having a name no longer attached to "The Howard Stern Show". As far as Stuttering John, the key term here is "for awhile". Here's a curveball: Artie almost evaded this ostensibly-named "Stern curse" by getting the gig on Crashing, but then he, in fact, crashed and promptly burned (no pun intended) shortly thereafter.

@JudgeReinhold626

Жыл бұрын

Epitome

@Fucklifedeadshit

Жыл бұрын

Fred’s band really isn’t comparable. The average listener wasn’t even aware of Fred’s band.

@ethanmurray2203

Жыл бұрын

John is the Forrest Gump of Radio/TV

Todd Packer. Thanks for coming back.

@PJxBuchwild

3 ай бұрын

Is this the OG Todd Packer? I thought his content went behind a paywall

@trentblume5998

3 ай бұрын

@@PJxBuchwild Hmmm...I have no idea.

@PJxBuchwild

3 ай бұрын

@@trentblume5998 Either way the uploads are great, it's important to keep this stuff alive

Howard and Robyn are my #1 favorite interracial relationship

He was a call screener for 16 years and never progressed. He looked so goofy with long hair

@bigmoose99

Ай бұрын

He was just growing that for Howard

who knew john dabbled in the music business

@Nellsbells79

Жыл бұрын

He dabbles in slot of things 😉 king of the dabblers

@danielhaddock91

Жыл бұрын

He’s a jack of all dabbles.

@Brad772006

Жыл бұрын

Hey if you are looking for help doing some job and you want it done poorly and unfinished he is definitely the guy to call. Except for burning bridges he is a master at that.

@HankBukowski

Жыл бұрын

Beavis and Butthead knew. That was the first time I heard of StutJo.

@retrojoe8434

Жыл бұрын

His greatest dabble may have been in art. He made a peace sign out of fake pieces of ammunition from every American war he knows of.

Then now and forever one of the biggest phonies in the business. USER !

29:50 holy shit. 😂 how was that not played after John took the job with Jay hahaha

@hoggers7572

Жыл бұрын

It broke into the top hundred of the Adult Contemporary Charts in Wichita

@justmissjamey

Жыл бұрын

​@@hoggers7572 the whaaaat?!😁😆

@rustymertz

Жыл бұрын

Probably because nobody ever remembered it.

@colz22

Жыл бұрын

​@@hoggers7572 very big in Sheboygan

Such a damn user

John's video for the song I talked my way out of it was featured quite heavily on Headbangers ball. Probably due to all the cameos within it.

Howard lying right here saying John is a likeable guy.

This segment was quite telling for the future for John. We find out John and Jah Leno have the same publicist. Stern prophetically predicts John will leave him in a second for 100k.

This howard guy was really at the front lines of dabbling.

@Allentox

Жыл бұрын

Dabblers Unity. Uncle Rico Show.

29:49

Todd Packer? The guy who had me covered with hundreds of hours of compilations back in 2012-2014??

Best part is the album tanked 😂😂

@lorenzoaramirez3915

Жыл бұрын

​@@nicolethain it was such a flop. The Record company just gave the thousands of cds they produced to John. And he had to set up a 1-800 phone line just to sell them. Plus he would sell them on every appearance he made.

@rustymertz

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolethain actually he doesn’t. He says the same “joke”, every single time, it’s mentioned. “My album was so bad, it went tin”

@jasonbourne5142

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolethain you're hot

@andreroestenberg6313

Жыл бұрын

How many records did he sell?

@JuanCKaun

Жыл бұрын

​@@andreroestenberg6313 zero, point zero.

Classic Stern and Robin preface before the classic piling on and ripping.

Is this the same genius that was the head writer of the Kareem Abdul Jabbar roast?!

@RolandDeschain1

4 ай бұрын

John's lies always escalate the more he gets away with them. He started out as "a writer" on that roast. Then it became "the HEAD writer". Last I heard he actually claimed he was "the ONLY writer".

The foreshadowing is crazyyy. Howard asked John would he leave him if someone offered hundreds of thousands dollars to leave ,would he

"Ill talk my way out of it"!! Johns song actually made it into the movie "Airheads" . I was hoping Stern would have brought it up to brendan Frasier the other day, haha not.

@readilium3432

Жыл бұрын

Wasn't John in Airheads too?

@RandyBoBandy.

Жыл бұрын

Stern is still on?????

@Kee2Oz

Жыл бұрын

He had a line toward the end I'd always assumed was a cameo, being his obnoxious self screaming about being a masturbator.

@chairmanmeow2413

Жыл бұрын

He was also in Dude Where's my car.

@kristalraya730

Жыл бұрын

@@readilium3432 yes he was he has a small spot.

29:50 wow, Howard new him so well.

the glory days.

29:50 Lmaooo. This was foreshadowing

@bhall4996

Жыл бұрын

That pizzed off Howard to the core! He didn't sleep for weeks

Listening to this old clip, one question comes to mind: How did years of living in Los Angeles make John's New York accent THICKER? Here his accent is fairly mild, but you listen to him now, and he sounds like Dice half the time.

@kiowahorse2561

Жыл бұрын

Because John is the biggest poser you'll ever see. I would not be surprised if his stutter was fake. I've heard more than a couple interviews that made me question if his stutter was real.

@MrRonny411

Жыл бұрын

He actually is a big Dice fan. I think that whenever he's threatening of badmouthing people he's sort of - subconscious - doing his Dice imitation.

@LGguedo

Жыл бұрын

Coors light is your answer

@isabellavillanueva4639

Жыл бұрын

@@kiowahorse2561I think his stutter is fake actuality

@coolboy5245

Жыл бұрын

@@kiowahorse2561 His stutter is fake. He doesn't stutter anymore.

18:29 John Venmo’s his publicist, he then mails himself a check.

Stuttering John and the Flunkies would be a great band name.

its Johnny Vedder

John was always a user. I'm so glad the gravy train dried up. He went pretty far for someone with no talent. Temporarily.

And John continues to burn every bridge and somehow can't figure out the common factor

John always uses and goes behind people's backs

John thinks howard held his record back because of his bad name in the industry... John refused to admit howard was the only reason he got the deal. He'd have been world famous with or without howard

@kristalraya730

Жыл бұрын

Wrong even Howard admitted that happened to John at one point on the show.

@WhatnotChaser

Жыл бұрын

@@kristalraya730John would never ever ever got a record deal without Howard.

@Inevertouchmycarrot

Жыл бұрын

That album was trash. Would John get the same deal while pumping gas in Massapequa and not working for Stern? Not a chance.

Now we know his stutter was fake it’s funnier to hear him stutter

"If someone offered you hundreds of thousands of dollars to break up with me, hundreds of thousands a year, to go somewhere else, would you do it?" "No" That aged well lmao he bailed literally the SECOND he was offered that

@ml9867

7 ай бұрын

That's at 29:49

Gary is the biggest snake of them all

Like Robin wasn't on Jeopardy because of the Stern Show.

@cultfilmfreakreviews

Жыл бұрын

Stern made sure Robin got tons of money so she did less because of that

Oh wow - @29:50 ....a very telling Question and Answer....Howard had spider sense of what was going on....

I love these videos because they remind me on hating on John, what a user. Asshl!

I love how Howard says his agent told him “absolutely not, you’re not doing it” which is a total lie. Howard has set up the good guy/bad guy thing with Tom Chiusano and I’m sure he had it with Don Buckwald also. It’s all BS. I wouldn’t have done anything for it either, but it was funny.

The best part abouy Johns band was the name... MUND.

As much as I despise both of them, they did work well together

Atlantic records thought they were signing Stern when they signed John. Stut Jo would not have corrected that presumption!

Air date?

Can you post any Magic Johnson/John Wayne Bobbitt content, please?

21:43 for the best John Stutter of the video 31:43 is also a good one.

Howard knows music. Anyone heard the Stutter's shit?

So many people on the show mistook being used by the show for their being talented In his defense Howard and Robyn both had people write plugs for their books on the jackets. People write for record liners all the time, nothing wrong in asking. Of course people associate him with the show. No surprise there. Ronnie has the nerve to call John a user. LOL Go mooch off of Scores, Ronnie. 29:50 Omg! John did when he ran off to do Leno's show!

Omg! Got to send this to the uncle Rico show

It's funny how Howard admitted on the show that John's music was being sabotaged by the radio stations once they found out it was John on the record. When they played his music anonymously they would play it in rotation once they found out it was John they wouldn't.

@mysonandme8424

Жыл бұрын

If it was good, it wouldn't matter. It sucked. Howard was the ONLY reason John got a "deal".

After all John did for him!😂😂😂😂

Why are all the Howard stern comment sections just people complaining about the people in the show lol

@Bluetlc4

10 ай бұрын

Probably the same ones who post on. Radio Gunt.

When robin speaks for Howard it makes me cringe😂 she was such a d rider

@shawnfranklin9581

Жыл бұрын

She is so untainted and annoying!

@danielhudson5186

Жыл бұрын

Someone made you a multi millionaire, you'd ride that dick too.

29:49 oooh spooky!!!!!!!

11:48 oh yeah total classic, I think it’s still on the charts 30 years later.

Funny how irrelevant Howie is now....sad, scared, woke old man in a black wig😢

@baibureh8816

Жыл бұрын

He made his money and had his fun, he is on cruise control now.

30:07 Howard asks SJ if he'd leave him for more money, very telling. Even then, Howard knew he was a user.

Fast-forward to 2024 and John is divorced, broke and living with his Mother.

Damn..@ 29:50..

SJ really was a first class schnorrer. Howard was right.

29:49 John lied.. "come here John" -jay leno

The album went Tin and sold dozens of copies

29:52 - Stern sees the future!

john...the almost celebrity that never was.

All the “bird” allegories apply to StutJo - never realised a bird in hand is worth two in the bush or never to kill the golden goose.

So what happened with the whole record deal? How did it play out? Did rick rubin produce it like John was saying they were talking about. Lamo

Well Howard called that one.

I wish someone could find and put together in chronological order, when John got his record deal and then the aftermath. It was pretty hilarious. He pretty much was walking around, believing he finally made it and was gonna be the next big rock star. Howard kept asking him about the record, and John kept bragging about his great songs. But Howard kept reminding him he only got the record deal because of Howard, and the record company was dumb for putting money into it. Anyway, indeed the company was spending a lot of money on stuttering John. Putting him on MTV and playing his video, plus doing gigs opening for some rock bands. It all peeked when MTV and Atlantic Records threw him a huge release party and had movie stars and rock stars coming to the party. John was at this point an insufferable prick, thinking he was a huge star... even though the record hadn't come out yet.. Anyway, it all came crashing down in a hilarious way when they sent John to a record store to do a signing on the day the album came out. And only less than 20 people showed up to the signing. Grillo and Gange, who were with him, rushed the next morning to tell Howard how bad it went. So, anyway, obviously, the record was a huge flop. Sold less than 1,000 units on its first week, and Atlantic Records immediately shut down John's second album and gave him all the cds that didn't sell. Which John had to rent a storage unit just to put them there and he created a 1-800 number so he could sell his crappy cd there plus he would also try to sell them when he was doing gigs...

@psfanboy79

8 ай бұрын

But doesn’t John have 2 Albums?

@lorenzoaramirez3915

8 ай бұрын

@psfanboy79 one of them was independently produced and also went nowhere.

SJ picked the right 6 numbers of a lottery ticket.

Whenever Howard says " I'm happy for him" he is def lying

29:48 turns out in fact he would not.

Looks like Janis Joplin in this photo

@fudgicle1086

Жыл бұрын

Janis bathed more often

John nowadays looks 70 years older than he does in in this 90's picture.

@Hilz28

Жыл бұрын

You realize... He was younger, in the 90's... Right?? 🤣

@josephrobertvanderhoff

Жыл бұрын

He's a drunk and a druggie ...Damn Crack head ...

@WhatnotChaser

Жыл бұрын

@@Hilz28yes, he was 70 years younger.

@marissac870

Жыл бұрын

​@@Hilz28 hahhh right? Like what in the fuck. Riiiight! An Elegant often type of riiight

@Hilz28

Жыл бұрын

@@marissac870 haha. The original comment is so nonsensical 🧐

Howard always loved stepping on the people he created!

@andreroestenberg6313

Жыл бұрын

Howard always thought he did so much for his staff.. he made a ton of money and staff made nothing...and playing the record on air....wow...how generous! All the things that John wanted Howard to do was not a huge deal.. but No one on staff should never say NO to Howard on helping his career

@edgar214ER

Жыл бұрын

@@andreroestenberg6313 how did John get a record deal with no talent and other things , give Howard his credit

@Stonehopper1067HMG

Жыл бұрын

Stuttering John is still living off of Howard’s scraps 30 years later. Hating Howard Stern has a cottage industry so he’s helping his haters as well. These compilations gets more views then Johns current anything.

@mr.brenman2132

Жыл бұрын

@@Stonehopper1067HMG They both deserve to be clowned. They are both a joke.

@jerryw2460

Жыл бұрын

Howard knew the fights is what everyone wanted so any reason to start one he would. Made him a multi millionaire.

I saw some 2023 clips of John playing an acoustic guitar, which taught me one thing: There's no way John played a note on his albums.

How can u run a store that's only open from 8am till 9pm...¿???¿??¿

John looks like a caveman in this pic

What happened to John's huge talented music career p🤣😂

29:50 Jay Leno??

21:43 He lays on that fake stutter so thick it's amazing that Howard didn't take him to task for that. I suppose that would be too far a peak behind the curtain.

I don't know the proper etiquette, I got in his car as he was leaving for home...that's right, right?