Sterling by Music Man Stingray Ray4 SUB w/ Seymour Duncan Pickup + Preamp!- LowEndLobster Fresh Look

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Hey everyone! Today we're taking a look at one of my latest SUB creations! Featuring a Seymour Duncan 70's Alnico Stingray pickup and their STC-3M3 3-band Stingray Preamp (also featured in the ESP LTD GB-4 "Slap Monster"), this thing is a big step up from a stock Ray4 SUB.
EDIT: Noise at max treble caused by dirty power. Solved with power conditioner. Future vids will all have the conditioner in place.
Big thanks to Dom @ ThirdFloorGuitars for setting up my instruments. You can find him at www.thirdfloorguitars.com
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  • @DamianPendragon
    @DamianPendragon11 ай бұрын

    Thank you for all your videos on the sterling Ray4. You have done an amazing service to us Ray4 users

  • @dante-nj8gr
    @dante-nj8gr3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for trying all the preamps and pickups on the SUB bass. I'm thinking about modding my SUB bass and I appriciate your effort a lot. Cheers!

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Duy Le! I'm so glad that you're enjoying the videos and finding them informative :)

  • @rmccain99

    @rmccain99

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't! Get you a used MTD 5gang Hier and install an Audere preamp, then call it a day.

  • @boscobaracus1823

    @boscobaracus1823

    Ай бұрын

    this video is still helping people o/

  • @boomerbassmeme
    @boomerbassmeme3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds from a GAS Anonymous meeting: "My name is 🦞 and I have a Stingray problem" 🤣

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    ... and I have a Sabre Classic coming today :X

  • @rl-ub9hx

    @rl-ub9hx

    3 жыл бұрын

    Some call it a problem, I see a man with stingray solutions!

  • @boomerbassmeme

    @boomerbassmeme

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rl-ub9hx Next time someone complains about my stable of 11 basses Imma say "sheeeet 🦞 has that many Stingrays alone" 🤣

  • @rl-ub9hx

    @rl-ub9hx

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@boomerbassmeme yea... his channel is gonna get me in trouble

  • @boomerbassmeme

    @boomerbassmeme

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rl-ub9hx As long as you don't call the wife Stingray you should be OK 😁

  • @revlewisrees9880
    @revlewisrees98803 жыл бұрын

    It’s amazing what can be achieved these days with aftermarket electronic upgrades. The USA Ray still shaded things. Personally, I loved the slap setting.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Rev!

  • @augustus1562
    @augustus15623 жыл бұрын

    I have the same bass for 3 years now! i use it both live and recordings from our band. all stock, no mods, it's a beginner bass and i looooove it so much!

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Augustus! So glad to hear it :)

  • @berniedumas3565

    @berniedumas3565

    2 жыл бұрын

    I use mine stock as well and I love it!!!!!

  • @chadsmith6309

    @chadsmith6309

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have you experienced the low E string to be louder than the others? I got the stock version as well and have this issue, even after tilting the pickup height.

  • @bradymorris9074

    @bradymorris9074

    Жыл бұрын

    That is encouraging to hear. I have been eyeing one for a while now and have been thinking about getting it for myself, but was wondering how it holds up as an entry-level bass. Good to know that it stands up to regular use.

  • @twocats2543
    @twocats25433 жыл бұрын

    I watched this video with headphones and when the Ernie Ball Stingray was played, man, it sounded excellent. I don't think the Sterling by Music Man was bad by any means, but the Ernie Ball sounded fantastic. Looking forward to the next videos! Definitely makes me miss by Ernie Ball Sterling back home 😭

  • @rl-ub9hx

    @rl-ub9hx

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, I didn't hear it until I put on my cans. The eb stingray was way meatier.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    MEAT!

  • @rmccain99

    @rmccain99

    3 жыл бұрын

    The EB sounded like cardboard.

  • @guyviola5359
    @guyviola53593 жыл бұрын

    I preferred the sound of that bass with the "Slap Mode" off but the difference was very subtle... On my cheap speaker anyway! Thanks for another good demo LowEndLobster!!!

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Guy! Going to be messing with the trim pots to see what impact that has on the slap mode.

  • @davegiard2221
    @davegiard22212 жыл бұрын

    Man all of these stingray videos def fueled me to buy my Ray34. Great stuff as always lobster

  • @-GRAVESITE-
    @-GRAVESITE- Жыл бұрын

    Dude, thank you so much for this. It’s exactly that kind of video I was looking for. Slapped a like and hit the bell, brother.

  • @marciosouza8656
    @marciosouza86563 жыл бұрын

    Excelente trabalho Lobster ! Você faz os melhores reviews de Music Man/Sterling da web. Continue assim ! Translation: "Great job Lobster! You make the best Music Man / Sterling reviews on the web. Keep it up !"

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much :)

  • @KeithCopeland778
    @KeithCopeland7783 жыл бұрын

    Sounds great and a lot more StingRay-like with more bite and punch than the original SUB electronics. I actually like the sound of the moded SUB more than the USA StingRay!!!

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Keith!

  • @rmccain99

    @rmccain99

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your ears do not lie.

  • @91cog
    @91cog3 жыл бұрын

    I like slap mode off - you’re totally right about keeping the signature stingray bite!

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man! :D.... CHEERS!

  • @dabicho117
    @dabicho117 Жыл бұрын

    I have a left-handed sub ray 4, the same model but with the old logo. The bass sounded distorted and it was practically impossible to get a decent EQ. I installed a Seymour Duncan SMB4DS combination, which is practically the same but with the ceramic pickup. The improvement is amazing, it sounds like another instrument. Greetings from Chile.

  • @Hereweare75
    @Hereweare75Күн бұрын

    Extra thumbs up for an AWESOME Cat!

  • @bassman1290
    @bassman12903 жыл бұрын

    you went from Mr. Nobody to one of the most bass channel on youtube. I'm waiting for your Aguilar and Nordstand videos ;)

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Quang! It's been an incredible journey and it's still going :) Thank you for being a part of it.

  • @thiagodeandradeneves4585
    @thiagodeandradeneves45853 жыл бұрын

    Wow, I had high expectations, but it sounds even better than expected. I remember telling you about Duncan's MM line in the Ray34 video, this one kinda scratches my itch. Might swap my Ray 34 electronics someday :)

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Thiago! That's a great idea, but you may need to swap the pickguard too as the Ray34 pickup doesn't have the "nubs" at the top of the pickup and instead has them combined into a thumb rest.

  • @Blackphyre
    @Blackphyre2 жыл бұрын

    Bruh, that Seymour Duncan is SWEET! I want that preamp!

  • @bobt5778
    @bobt57783 жыл бұрын

    If it matters, I installed this pickup with the stock preamp in minty sub ray, which is about the only combo not tried by Mr. Lobster. It is a very nice upgrade in case that's what your budget or expertise allows.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Bob!

  • @basshoh
    @basshoh3 жыл бұрын

    LOVE LOVE LOVE ..the TALKING bass voice and idea....for SURE a KEEPER....!!!!!!!

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Goldy never knows when to shut up ;P

  • @paulevans4334
    @paulevans43343 жыл бұрын

    So it was the preamp that made the ESP LTD GB4 sound so good. Interesting.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Indeed! I've heard folks say that the pickups alone in the GB-4 are weak (someone mentioned they popped them in some other bass), but the preamp and pickup combo definitely makes em shine.

  • @thefool2007
    @thefool20073 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video. I have a Ray4 SUB in mint green. I’m looking to upgrade pups/electronics. The Yellow EBMM sounded richer and more sophisticated....but the SUB held its ground well for the price. I’ve been playing for this stock as main player while my Modulus enjoys semi-retirement. It kills through my Zoom B3 with compression/limiting. Great video.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Rick! I'm curious to see how the Aguilar and Nordstrand setups will stack up, but those will take a bit longer to get here. Hopefully these vids help narrow down your choices!

  • @laserlithuanian
    @laserlithuanian3 жыл бұрын

    great tone !!!

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Tom! :)

  • @japas
    @japas3 жыл бұрын

    I upvoted for the amazing content, but mostly for the love you gave to your kitty cat

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you :)

  • @kevmac1230
    @kevmac12303 жыл бұрын

    Sounds very nice,but the love you show kitty warms the cockles of my heart ❤️ lol.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Kev! She deserves it :)

  • @TheGAMEGod_YT
    @TheGAMEGod_YT3 жыл бұрын

    I’m on a stingray binge !!! Let’s gooooo

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Donny Benet- Mr. Experience, listen to the album if you haven't already. The man is a modern Stingray legend.

  • @TheGAMEGod_YT

    @TheGAMEGod_YT

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster yes sir mister lobster sir

  • @natereid9711
    @natereid97113 жыл бұрын

    Sounds great! I have a feeling you’ve beat the the Ray 24 when it comes to tone but I would still be interested to see a comparison.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Nate! I have a 24 coming sometime this week, vid will be coming soon. The SD SUB will definitely make an appearance in that vid.

  • @jaxonvictoria4345

    @jaxonvictoria4345

    3 жыл бұрын

    I own a Ray24 and I gotta say the preamp Is pretty good. I spoke with somebody who swapped out the preamp for an Ernie Ball replacement and a Mojotone MusicMan Clone, and he swears the difference is barely noticeable. I do wish that the Ray24 came with alnico humbuckers though! I fancy that more.

  • @Gulaschguenter
    @Gulaschguenter3 жыл бұрын

    I built this pickup and preamp into one of my Fleabasses Model 32 back in the day (I bought 3 of them when they were discontinued for only 199€ a piece!) - had to do some modifications to the pickguard and the body, but it was worth it, very solid unit.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Those Fleabasses are interesting rarities :)

  • @mentula3784
    @mentula37842 жыл бұрын

    Sheeeeit listen to the low end on that EBMM.... 😲 The sterling sounds good, just not the same although the money saved could definitely persuade me. Great platform to build from

  • @basshoh
    @basshoh3 жыл бұрын

    SWEEET....love my GB4 and my 99 Warwick FNA ..which has the exact same SD preamp!!!!!

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    WOOO!

  • @dupajas4671
    @dupajas46713 жыл бұрын

    I tried the STC preamp in my ‘94 3-band Stingray sometime around ‘08 or so. It definitely smoothened out the tone and took away the harsh nasal midrange of the EB preamp (which it sounds like the Special still has). When I spoke with SD tech support about the preamp (I had a noise issue because I used the stock pickup which does not have the pole pieces shielded like the SD pickup), they told me that the design of the STC-MM-3 takes what made the original 2-band and brings it into 3-band flexibility. So perhaps comparing its tone to your Classic Stingray would be a better idea.... Just a thought... The Slap Contour mini pots on the PCB control the amount of desired Bass Boost and Mid Cut when you engage the circuit. If you don’t want to lose the signature Stingray Zing, I’d suggest just boosting the Bass and minimize the Mid-cut. I plan on building an SR5-style bass in the future and will be using the STC-MM3 preamp with their SMB-5D ceramic pickup (SMB-5S set)

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Dwarde! I'm going to be messing with the trim pots on the preamp some more. I think I've decided to keep this SUB, and will be doing more content with it compared some of my other rays including the SR classic that I recently got :)

  • @dupajas4671

    @dupajas4671

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cool. I had also forgot to mention that the SD SMB-4A AlNiCo pickup is also designed around a 70’s Stingray pickup as well, while the Ceramic magnet version is designed to have the more aggressive 90’s tone. It’s all in their product descriptions. All the more reason to compare this SUB with the Classic SR. Not that I’m trying to tell you how to run your show...I’m just trying to be somewhat relevant in this world and perhaps contribute some knowledge gained from experience...or you can just tell me to STFU and crawl back under my rock from which I occasionally emerge... Hey, none of those jerks on TalkBass ever listen to me, so why should The Lobster? [I miss that New England Lobster and some Chowdah...right now all I can get are Chesapeake Blue Crabs...]

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dupajas4671 Indeed! No worries my friend, I genuinely appreciate the suggestions! I'm honestly super stoked on my 'Ray collection right now. There will be a LOT of comparison videos headed your way in the future, my friend! Don't you worry :).

  • @DTaylorGuitars
    @DTaylorGuitars3 жыл бұрын

    The MM game is strong with this one. You need at least 15 more in your life bro. Make it happen!

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is the way ;P

  • @seanpowell1496
    @seanpowell14963 жыл бұрын

    you got me pinching that like button like clockwork!!!!

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    :D

  • @bDoom88
    @bDoom883 жыл бұрын

    I love any SD product and i've already put on my jazz a couple of SJB-3 pickups with the STC blackout preamp. Killer sound. But... On my custom made bass i mounted a SMB.4D with the OBP-3 from Aguilar. No words, just orgasms.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Basil! Honestly, this was my first aftermarket forray into SD. I dig em! Going to try and do more pickup videos in the future.

  • @bDoom88

    @bDoom88

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster Oh yeah!!!!!

  • @rmccain99

    @rmccain99

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have found that EMG Hz's cure most ailments. I don't like the EMG 40's they are only good for Motown so if you want Motown buy an EMG 40 and throw the domino's out.

  • @bDoom88

    @bDoom88

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rmccain99 i tried the 40's sound when i got a spector euro5 lx. Funky sounding pickups, also good for metal, motown, rock and jazz! Really crazy, but Seymour duncan jb pickups and mm pickups make it way better. Active pickups are too impersonal and modern-sounding and it makes me prefer standard passives in quite any situation.

  • @daveydoodle1916
    @daveydoodle19163 жыл бұрын

    Delano Pickups? You are truly the Lobsterman. 🦞

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Love me some Delanos! Project Mint-o-ray has a Delano :)

  • @darindjking7463
    @darindjking74632 жыл бұрын

    I've owned an ORIGINAL MMSR made by Leo Fender..it was a 1978 model..I bought it in NYC on 48th street back in the mid 90s..so when I hear someone audition these Ernie and Sterling models, I'm comparing their sound to the original tonal versatility..alas they sound ok...this last Sterling SUB that you modified with the Seymour Duncan Alnico P/U and preamp..in my opinion..having owned and gigged for over a decade with an original Leo Fender model (which was stolen from me😭💔)...came the closest to the authentic tonal quality and versatility I so loved from the 1978 Leo Fender model(s)...what you neglected to observe and mention is that the ORIGINAL MMSR basses also had a different bridge...the classic bridge had black foam rubber dial-in spring mutes in front of the saddles and most importantly, they were ALL STB...This STB feature, in particular, had a marked and distinct effect in boosting not only SUSTAIN but also tonal WARMTH and RICHNESS..that the current Ernie and Sterling Ball models lack all the way around. I have never understood how much more expensive it would have been for them to add this original design feature to the basses overall...one of their "techs" even tried to argue with me that it didn't make a difference!! I, politely as I could informed him that he didn't know what he was talking about if he had never owned and played and gigged with an original model for years at a time. Facts: this bass was designed especially for Louis Johnson of "The Brothers Johnson" who had adopted the "Thumping and Plucking" style of playing pioneered by Larry Graham. There's even a caricature of The Brothers Johnson engraved as an emblem on the headstock..not only on the Leo Fender models but on the earlier Ernie Ball's as well where the capitol M makes the legs of the the guitar playing "Brothers Johnson"..( fyi..the image was taken from their 1st ablum entitled "Look Out for #1)..Louis's knickname was "Thunder Thumbs"...so Leo design the bass to get the pick up configuration out of the way of the vigorous righthand activity intrinsic to the technique. So the original pick ups were designed to be VERY HOT🔥🔥...Because the positioning of the pick up negates the warmth of having a pick up in the neck position..if you haven't seen before or as yet, LJ made an instructional "Star Licks" video that's now on KZread, where he talks in some detail about what he and Leo did together when this bass was in the design phase..he also plays the bass...and when here the original tone you'll understand EXACTLY what it has taken me this long to describe...take a listen...and THEN make your overall comparison...I ANXIOUSLY await YOURtake on this after you seen and heard LJ's video..😎👍 P.S. sorry this was so lengthy..😳😌 I do however enjoy your videos...I'm making plans now to buy the Kingston Super 5 and possibly a Sterling SUB to modify as a result...Thank You for your labors in this..😊❤

  • @ahmetcangokceer
    @ahmetcangokceer3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds very, very good! The main thing stopping me from getting an SUB is the Jazz style thinner neck : ( too bad you dont get that with the Ray 24 upgrade as well....

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Ah, yes the necks are very different with the Ray34 and USA ones being much more substantial. There's always the status graphite option ;P

  • @rmccain99

    @rmccain99

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree 100%. A P-bass neck has more mass and therefore has more booty.

  • @ahmetcangokceer

    @ahmetcangokceer

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster haha true ::)

  • @rl-ub9hx
    @rl-ub9hx3 жыл бұрын

    Seymour Duncan puts out great gear and is friendlier to the wallet than its competitors.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    The truth!

  • @juliangramajo7010

    @juliangramajo7010

    3 жыл бұрын

    yeah, i feel too many people use aguilar, it is good gear, but it is a little overpriced for me, and here in Argentina if something is overpriced goes even higher with taxes

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@juliangramajo7010 We'll be doing a Tone Monster SUB in my upcoming Ultimate SUB Mod Guide. $110 USD for both pickup and preamp! We'll see how those stack up to the competition. Stay tuned my friends :)

  • @JJaguar333
    @JJaguar3332 жыл бұрын

    Both basses sounded pretty much the same other than the EBMM sounding slightly ‘deeper’ and less trebly. Would put that down to better quality body woods used in its construction. My SUB finally arrived here in NZ and managed to grab the SD pickup+preamp combo of Amazon. Is getting installed this week. Complete bass at around the $NZD 1100 vs $3500 NZD for a EBMM. Or $1999 for the Ray 34. Thanks 😊

  • @billyhooks99
    @billyhooks992 жыл бұрын

    Listened to the comparison thru AT-M50 headphones and the 2017 Stingray had by far the best sound. Not a fan of the stingray basses overall anyway but I just love your mods and listening to the different basses. I would love to see you review a Warwick thumb BO.

  • @soundzofnoize8603
    @soundzofnoize86033 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic tones and can we get more Jazzy Da Bass Cat on the show please!

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! She comes and goes as she pleases haha. She was particularly insistent that it was dinner time during the shooting of this vid haha

  • @soundzofnoize8603

    @soundzofnoize8603

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster Beautiful my friend!

  • @teukurizkynoer8033
    @teukurizkynoer80333 жыл бұрын

    Love your content man...

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Teuku! I appreciate it :D

  • @robertotakahashi9950
    @robertotakahashi99503 жыл бұрын

    Great video again. Question: what u mean by “bass on two hundred” after testing the bass o. 50%. Sounded as a frequency change to me. And about the noise while boosting the treble do you believe that was the cav shielding?

  • @jdmarino
    @jdmarino3 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't hear the diff with "slap mode". And honestly, I think I prefer your modded Sterling. Maybe you should start a upgrade shop.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks John! I'm going to be messing with the trim pots on the PCB to see if we can get a bigger scoop going in slap mode. I had a hard time hearing the difference as well, though in my audio recording application the difference between the two was visible. I think some tweaking should result in a more drastic difference. I'm going to have that done before the next video that this is featured in.

  • @rmccain99

    @rmccain99

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same here.

  • @BullyThaKidd
    @BullyThaKidd3 жыл бұрын

    I kinda like the sterling man... Just gotta get the buzzing under control

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man! Yep, not sure if a ground got loose or if it needs some shielding. She's gonna go under the knife again to play with those trim pots, will figure it out!

  • @rmccain99

    @rmccain99

    3 жыл бұрын

    I like your channel.

  • @ormand.943

    @ormand.943

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster im having the same problem with this exact mods seymour pick and sub, to much noise. Exactly like you but in my ray34ca. How can i fix it?

  • @agbesesamuel1938
    @agbesesamuel19383 жыл бұрын

    Oh boy this sound is crazy af. Crustacean id like you to do a video for people that might like to give out used bass he/she ain't using. It's gonna do a lot of good to people like me that got none. Btw I'm looking forward to your next giveaway

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Samuel! More giveaways coming soon (bass giveaways!), they'll be random drawings per usual but I always appreciate your entries!

  • @WildWildWeasel
    @WildWildWeasel3 жыл бұрын

    The treble up all the way sounds alot like when you're maneuvering tin foil around xD

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hahah yep, it was a bit harsh. Going to be messing with the internal EQ a bit on the PCB to see what else can be dialed in :)

  • @ek2thehands
    @ek2thehands3 жыл бұрын

    With the slap contour on, it was slightly more bass, muffled a bit. With it off it was cleaner sounding but less bass. I like it off.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @MotoGreciaMarios
    @MotoGreciaMarios3 жыл бұрын

    I think the EMG setup sounds clearer and better overall.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Marios! I agree, the EMG SUB impressed me the most as a combo

  • @basshoh
    @basshoh3 жыл бұрын

    Heyyyyyyy BeBe loves it too!!!!

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    To be fair she loves everything ;P

  • @wesliggett2454
    @wesliggett24543 жыл бұрын

    I have the 5 string version of this. You made me buy it with your 5 string video. It’s a nice bass for cheap! What setup would you go with for metal? Minto?

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Wes! Nailed it, Minto. You will be happy with the Darkglass preamp in your use case. Very clear and crisp highs while still maintaining a lot of the signature stingray tone.

  • @etpslick100
    @etpslick1003 жыл бұрын

    Like the 2017 stingray.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    :)

  • @myhapylife
    @myhapylife3 жыл бұрын

    I like Duncan pickup and electronics better than MMs. To me, it sounds more open. I think MM is putting one capacitor at the input that little bit tame those highs. Which is not bad. I think they come up with that with 3 band eq era or something. Oldschool stingray sounded more open.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Bro! I actually just snagged a 'Ray Classic recently, will be doing a comparison between the oldschool 2 band and the modern era 9v 3-band (not the 18v, too different)

  • @1thess523
    @1thess523 Жыл бұрын

    Do you know if this pick up can be used for a passive bass? I got an OLP MM2 for $100 ans it sounds pretty good with the stock pick up because it still has that Stingray growl. I'm thinking of upgrading down the road to a better pick up. This OLP is set up like a jazz bass because it has 2 volumes and 1 tone, so it's a humbucker but it can bw split in half

  • @jkunz27
    @jkunz272 жыл бұрын

    I pinched the like button for the cat! 😛

  • @Amanet13
    @Amanet132 жыл бұрын

    Gotta love that 🐈 ❤️ I was thinking of getting one of Harley Benton Sting Rays 5 .What are your thoughts

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have a review on one coming soon.

  • @jonathanmayfield2603
    @jonathanmayfield26033 жыл бұрын

    The sub actually sound better to me the highs are super crisp with deep hollow bass my kind of sound style, what's the name of the preamp in the sub, looking to mod my cort gd75 I think the pre in it is trash and maybe check out the Seymour pickups too, question do you no if they sell 1 jazz 1 humbuck as a set or I have to get both separate, thanks for any suggestions or info Mr Rock Lobster

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jonathan! The Preamp is the STC3M3, but they also make one with the blend knob for basses with more than one pickup. I'm not sure if they sell individual jazz pickups, though reaching out to SD themselves or Best Bass Gear may be your best bet to find out! That would be a great upgrade. I have a Cort GB64JJ coming in later this week :)

  • @rmccain99

    @rmccain99

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Joe, go slow with those mods. Take one step at a time. Try strings before swapping things out.

  • @jonathanmayfield2603

    @jonathanmayfield2603

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hear you Rich just something to do and the bass is super nice like it alot just trying to get the sound I'm hearing for out of it, the jazz pickup is so much lower than the humbuker, don't get me wrong it sound cool but I've heard and seen mods that changed the game for some basses and wanted to be one of those, get the best out of this thing, thanks for the input though

  • @williamdeming853
    @williamdeming8533 жыл бұрын

    After watching quite a few of your comparisons the part where you demonstrated the slap knob was the best (in my opinion). I dig you playing but the shorter intervals of playing seem to work better for comparing the different tones. Just a constructive comment. 🦞

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks William!

  • @JJaguar333
    @JJaguar3332 жыл бұрын

    Thanks lobster. Just ordered my first SUB bass and also ordered the SD smb-4a pickup aswell. Stupid question but will that pickup work with the EMG pre-amp and will it sound as good as this combo? Cheers

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Happy modding! The pickup will work with an EMG preamp. You can even solder up some of the EMG connectors to make it plug and play. Just make sure you use the passive 250k vol instead of the active 25k vol! Hope that helps!

  • @JJaguar333

    @JJaguar333

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster thanks. Would like to use the Duncan stc-3m3 ideally but they seem to be hard to find online and I live in New Zealand so expensive.

  • @markbarrett7657
    @markbarrett76573 жыл бұрын

    Would you suggest the same mod for a sterling stingray short scale bass. I would assume the tonal characteristics would be very close if not the same? Great video. Thanks

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    You would need to route a battery box as the short scale is passive. However, you could absolutely use the pickup to replace the stock pickup without issue.

  • @fordhammie
    @fordhammie3 жыл бұрын

    None sounded better but they both sounded different than each other! :) A sterling/S.Duncan upgrade is also a smarter option.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Anthony :)

  • @MartinoPolizzi
    @MartinoPolizzi2 жыл бұрын

    thanks for this comparison. 2k dollars for an original MM...it worth it

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Martino!

  • @bobt5778
    @bobt57783 жыл бұрын

    Did you demo this pickup with the stock pre-amp by chance? Maybe I missed that. This is the sound I envision for my Mint-O-Ray!

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    I did not, but you can check out the original mint-o-ray vids to hear the stock pickup. I do love this combo, great value, easy to install, sounds great, and comes with knobs (solid ones too).

  • @keithpasculli7465
    @keithpasculli74653 жыл бұрын

    Slap tone sounded a little like Mark King. Great upgrade

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Keith!

  • @honkytonkinson9787
    @honkytonkinson97873 жыл бұрын

    The comparison: they sound different but I don't know that one is better than the other. Seems like you could tweak the settings and make one sound like the other if you wanted.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Honky! I'm going to be messing with the trim pots in the preamp, and this bass will make another appearance when I get my Ray24CA in :).

  • @rmccain99

    @rmccain99

    3 жыл бұрын

    The USA is better construction but needs the Duncan Preamp. I only use EMG pickups. Hands down.

  • @basshoh

    @basshoh

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rmccain99 I had a EMG MM in my ESP 30th anniversary model Surveyor and a EMG soap bar....and MAYBE it was the preamp that was in it ..BUT it was thin sounding to me ??????...i have others with EMG stuff in them and LOVE those but just not the MM p/ u for whatever reason

  • @nathanchalcraft6919
    @nathanchalcraft69193 жыл бұрын

    I have this preamp and you really gotta dial in that slap tone to make it sound diffrent. I'm still undecided on whether to have it on or off.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Nathan! I think I'm going to open the preamp up and play with the trim pots before the 3 way comparison. This'll need some fiddlin

  • @nathanchalcraft6919

    @nathanchalcraft6919

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster if you dial in the sound I think you could make it sound alot more like the usa stingray. That stingray sounds like it has alot more mids compared to the much brighter sub.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nathanchalcraft6919 I agree! Not a lot of clear documentation on the actual function of the trim pots, it'll take some messin' with but we'll get to the bottom of this and get that slap mode sound fine tuned :)

  • @nathanchalcraft6919

    @nathanchalcraft6919

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster just don't forget to show me how! I really wanna know!

  • @kenmorley2339
    @kenmorley23393 жыл бұрын

    That sound so much better than the ray34 .

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Ken!

  • @Jrzsf47
    @Jrzsf472 жыл бұрын

    Hey, it has a good tiny tone. I have one, with the stock p/u, and don't dig it so much . No comparison to the yellow. It's like a kids bass compared to the adult version. Thanks

  • @adamquek1095
    @adamquek10953 жыл бұрын

    All the $$ talk sounds dirty. I love it!

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Adam :D

  • @rmccain99
    @rmccain993 жыл бұрын

    I would have preferred a Jazz pup with Jazz positioning in the neck position, and slide that alnico 5 Seymour toward jazz bridge position.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting thought :)!

  • @darrylmoore127
    @darrylmoore1273 жыл бұрын

    Personally I thought the sub sounded better , I have the same sub , black, only did not change it up like u did , very interesting

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Darryl!

  • @timhegge4883
    @timhegge48833 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your videos they are great! Were you able to hear the Seymour Duncan with the stock preamp? I’m going to get the Aguliar or the Seymour Duncan for my sterling sub and keep the stock preamp. I saw your video with the Aguliar using the stock preamp just wondering if the Seymour Duncan would be compatible and sound good with the stock preamp. Thank you.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Tim! Great question. Yes, the SD with the stock pre will sound similar to the Aggie (if wired parallel). Stock pre is definitely serviceable, and I'd definitely recommend pickup first.

  • @timhegge4883

    @timhegge4883

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster were you ever able to get an output level on the stock pickups? My sterling sub is a few months old and doesn’t seem that hot to me, the pickup measures 6.6 k ohm which seems more like a lower output pickup.

  • @samcockrell
    @samcockrell3 жыл бұрын

    You can never go wrong with stingray or sterling being a stingray player, for years I can’t ever say anything bad but spending $2 grand for any bass should require drug testing. The sub with most modifications offer a better value pickups/preamps and way more sonic coloring no matter, what your style is Lobster it’s guy’s like you who convinced me to go sub 4 sterling body style with rear cavity oppose to plate/stingray WHAT MODELS OFFER THE REAR CAVITY AND SIDE 1/2 input? Last I have an Ernie ball sterling / with lakland pickups/ LAKLAND L3H preamp Sterling sub/bartolini pickups/ 4.6 bartolini preamp sub 4/ Seymour Duncan smb4-A Delano mc4/AL /Mark bass m.b.preamp sub 4/norstrand 2 big man pickups/ nordstrand preamp THANK YOU FOR DEDICATION I have learned a lot from your, channel thanks peace and love lobster

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Heyo! Hell yeah! Your mod sounds killer! Keep bassin my friend!

  • @thejoshuatree03
    @thejoshuatree033 жыл бұрын

    Where did you put the STC-3M3 preamp in the SUB? It doesn't seem to fit under the control plate anywhere :/

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    At the bottom of the control cavity beneath the 2nd knob. It's a squeeze but it fits without modification.

  • @thejoshuatree03

    @thejoshuatree03

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster thank you!

  • @larumbemar
    @larumbemar8 ай бұрын

    The SUB sounds fantastic. I recently got one as well (this is my first bass). I do notice in mine there’s fret buzzing, and I also noticed this in your demos, which was more noticeable when compared with the more expensive one. Is there a way to fix the buzzing from the frets?

  • @lucybarney1
    @lucybarney13 жыл бұрын

    Did the same mod on my Indonesian sub ,better to make a little routing for the board as it’s very tight ,so much better than the standard electrics

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Paul! It was a tight squeeze, and you're right - a little bit of routing would make for a more comfortable fit.

  • @TheBeardofDOOM
    @TheBeardofDOOM3 жыл бұрын

    An obvious price difference shows in the sound. Still prefer old Minty.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed! The Minty combo is by far my favorite thus far. Unconventional, yet the final result was epic.

  • @jaxonvictoria4345
    @jaxonvictoria43453 жыл бұрын

    Just the video I need! I’m looking to upgrade my Ray24CA, but truth be told I don’t think it really needs an upgrade on anything, including the tuners. I do fancy the tone of alnico humbuckers more than ceramic. I’m looking into the Nordstrand MM pickup and this Duncan preamp because of the mid knob. Great stuff as always!

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jaxon! I have a Ray24 coming in sometime in the next week or so. Excited to see how it compares to both the stock SUB, SD SUB, and my '17 Ray and Ray classic.. Going to throw the classic in the mix to make it 2 band vs 2 band!

  • @rmccain99

    @rmccain99

    3 жыл бұрын

    Do you know why they stopped making the JH?

  • @robertotakahashi9950
    @robertotakahashi99503 жыл бұрын

    Hmmm comparing to the EMG setup you did, what do you prefer? I guess I know what, but let’s hearing from you :)

  • @11coopbasscooper55
    @11coopbasscooper553 жыл бұрын

    Aaaah! The "ERNIE BALL" still has it over the Aftermarket. Just being honest. :D

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Cooper :D! My USA collection keeps growing for a reason ;P. More USA stuff for your eyes and ears coming very soon!

  • @11coopbasscooper55

    @11coopbasscooper55

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster Now you're talking. I can't wait! By NU Shooz! :D

  • @rmccain99

    @rmccain99

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't know what you are hearing.

  • @11coopbasscooper55

    @11coopbasscooper55

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rmccain99 Lol! It's a joke. Meaning: LowEndLobster's USA collection is expanding and he's going to post more USA bass products. (I CAN'T WAIT) Then I just added NU Shooz as a joke because she wrote a song; "I CAN'T WAIT". Basically I can't wait for his postings. Lol! That's all. :D

  • @alwilson7437
    @alwilson7437 Жыл бұрын

    I just have to say this, I brought the Seymour Duncan SMB-4A 4string bass Alnico pick-up and the STC-3M4 pre-amp. This had to most time-consuming pre-amp I have ever put together. Not a lot of information on it, and I still did not get it done after 5-7 hours. The wiring was so flimsy that it broke. Trying to figure out the color code was crazy. If you can help me out, let me know, I would appreciate it. Thanks love your videos, Al.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Al. I came to this conclusion as well in my Stingray mod series. The SD wiring was just so flimsy. I haven't used a Seymour Duncan product since. Join our discord channel, we've built a really helpful and great community that could definitely help you out.

  • @alwilson7437

    @alwilson7437

    Жыл бұрын

    This is what I did, I used the seymour ducan pickup (SMB-4A) and didn't use the STC-2A EQ Preamp. I must say, what a difference. Love it. Until next time, and thank you. Later.

  • @ormand.943

    @ormand.943

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster i want to join!!

  • @vonpipes26
    @vonpipes263 жыл бұрын

    Great sound! The one weird thing that got my attention was when you said it had a basswood body. When the hell did they switch woods? I have a SUB4, and 5, both mahogany. Absolute tanks, and have to use padded straps. Base models, no upgrades.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great question! Does your headstock have "SUB" in big letters? I think the first gen ones were mahogany, and they switched over to basswood for price. The Ray24CA has the mahogany body now, and then the Ray34 is either Mahogany or Ash depending on the finish. I'm curious to try a 1st gen import SUB (not to be confused with the USA ones from 10-15 years ago) to see the difference in electronics. The current gen SUB pickup sucks IMO, way too hot.

  • @vonpipes26

    @vonpipes26

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster Nope they do not have the big block letters. I guess luckily for me I received the ones right before the change over to basswood. I have both a Glarry J, and P bass, so I know what basswood feels like. The electronics in my sub's aren't the greatest but they work for what I do. I play through a Peavey Max 208 connected to a Zoom B1 4 pedal. I can pretty much dial in any tone I want. All in all I'm very happy.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vonpipes26 Interesting... hrm... I'm VERY curious about this changeover and when it happened. When did you get yours roughly? Gonna try and do some digging and get more info!

  • @vonpipes26

    @vonpipes26

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster Received my 4 in April 2020 from AMS. My 5 I received from Zzounds in August 2020.

  • @vonpipes26

    @vonpipes26

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster Ray4 April 2020 from AMS. Ray5 August 2020 from Zzounds. They only have the basswood ones now according to their description.

  • @ramshaar2597
    @ramshaar25973 жыл бұрын

    Both sound great your sting ray sound is a little bit more clean

  • @bringdabass1
    @bringdabass13 жыл бұрын

    Question... I'm gonna purchase the Seymour Duncan Alnico pickup would I need to get the STC-3M3 to get a great sound? Also, is that Alnico pickup passive or active? Thanks

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Russ! Great questions. The pickup upgrade IMO would make the most significant impact - check out the vid I did with the Aguilar pickup and stock preamp. The pickup is passive, preamps are the active component in stingrays. Hope that helps!

  • @bringdabass1

    @bringdabass1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I'll check out your vid right away.

  • @bringdabass1

    @bringdabass1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry for my ignorance, but can you please tell me the specific Seymour Duncan Alnico to fit my Sterling by Music Man Stingray Ray4 SUB series? 3 knobs of course. Went to Guitar Center and Sam Ash websites and they had multiple ones I want to make sure I get the first order right.

  • @RayRay-vv7fw
    @RayRay-vv7fw2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Lobster! Are the Wilkinson Replacement Pickups for Stingrays an improvement over the stock ones?

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    2 жыл бұрын

    IMO not really.

  • @RayRay-vv7fw

    @RayRay-vv7fw

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster TY!

  • @KPJohnson
    @KPJohnson3 жыл бұрын

    I think I preferred the SUB.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Kev!

  • @KPJohnson

    @KPJohnson

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster It was subtle, but the tone seemed more appealing to me. I prefer it in normal mode, also.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KPJohnson Thanks man!

  • @pabloalarconpuente802
    @pabloalarconpuente8023 жыл бұрын

    WHICH PICKUP SEYMOUR DUNCAN IS RECOMMENDED FOR A BASS UPGRADE STERLING RAY24 BY MUSICMAN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVICE

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Pablo! I'm using the Alnico one, but the Ceramic one is also a good option if you're looking for a more modern tone.

  • @pabloalarconpuente802

    @pabloalarconpuente802

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster thanks for answering. Is it a passive or active pickup? i saw seymour duncan's page and there are several models. Might you help me. thanks again

  • @klaymeister
    @klaymeister3 жыл бұрын

    I bought the ceramic pickup when I got my S.U.B. back in 2014, I see I made the wrong decision lol.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    ;P

  • @rmccain99

    @rmccain99

    3 жыл бұрын

    That ceramic was hot. Lower the height of it and Get some Dunlop Super Brights 45-105 gage and wow.

  • @raym4694
    @raym46942 жыл бұрын

    too much hum with treble up, gotta shield the control cavity , the SD preamp has a problem with the hum, i had the passive 2 band installed on a Squier MB5 and i noticed that i had the same issue till i shielded the control cavity...other than that that's all that i can say about it, sounds awesome, and btw the MM sounded more muffled than the sub... the sub is clearer and well pronounced with that sdmm p/up.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Ray!

  • @villusive
    @villusive2 жыл бұрын

    to be honest , for a slap tone , I prefer the SUB bass , ceramic always sounds clearer to me and , alnico kind of sounds like it's under water un the new stingrays

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks villusive! I should mess with more ceramic aftermarkets!

  • @JS_bass
    @JS_bass Жыл бұрын

    Hi! can I use this pickup with the original preamp? regards...

  • @santellavision
    @santellavision3 жыл бұрын

    I just picked up a $300 Sterling Ray4 and damn, it sounds and plays killer. I might consider swapping the PU, but you can't go wrong with it as is!

  • @samlelowitch
    @samlelowitch3 жыл бұрын

    The Sterling sounds very good but I prefer the sound of the USA Stingray. The latter has more richness and balance to my ears.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Sam!

  • @rmccain99

    @rmccain99

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Duncan preamp would be an upgrade for the USA Ray.

  • @cskeise
    @cskeise3 жыл бұрын

    💙👊😎

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    :)

  • @anthonycorley3268
    @anthonycorley32682 жыл бұрын

    My question is :is it possible to do a pickup and preamp mod on the Sterling Ray 34 ???

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    2 жыл бұрын

    Of course!

  • @anthonycorley3268

    @anthonycorley3268

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can the pickup be changed ???

  • @hporter3549
    @hporter35493 жыл бұрын

    Hello the Sub sounds better than the over price $2000 stingray

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks :)

  • @BassGods
    @BassGods5 ай бұрын

    Just get yourself a High quality Effects pedalboard, and you could have this Bass sounding like some of the best Basses out there. 😁

  • @mallexandre69
    @mallexandre693 жыл бұрын

    Hi lobster !!!! Cat show on 4 00 minutes in this vídeo ! The Funny cat of mrs lobster!!! Peace Man ,cheers from Brasil!

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you my friend! Always great to read your comments! Kitties say hi! :)

  • @gorjesito
    @gorjesito3 жыл бұрын

    The semyor duncan pickup is passive?

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @rmccain99
    @rmccain993 жыл бұрын

    Let's put that upgrade in the Ray24 and compare it to the Sub.

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    We're going to compare the stock Ray24 to this. The Ray24 already has upgraded guts compared to the SUB, wouldn't make much sense to do it here as the only difference would be body material.

  • @rmccain99

    @rmccain99

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster Forget the Ray24 and do a sound comparison of the basswood Sub and an alder Sub.

  • @JersonAnthony
    @JersonAnthony3 жыл бұрын

    Have you considered upgrading the tuning pegs??

  • @LowEndLobster

    @LowEndLobster

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, no. I replaced some SUB tuners in another project, but I don't think they're that atrocious. Perhaps some Wilkinson tuners are in the cards for a future SUB project!

  • @JersonAnthony

    @JersonAnthony

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LowEndLobster looking forward to the next mod!!

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