Molly getting visually sick as Stephen a brings up Eli is hilarious 😂

@TyBeTroLLing

2 жыл бұрын

hE SLEEPING ON THE COUCH TONIGHT!!

@jamalsg44ja

2 жыл бұрын

But he wasn’t wrong in what he said tho as he made valid points on Eli’s career. Only real fans know even though he made great throws to his receivers Tyree/Manningham the defense both times won Eli those chips. Bottom line.

@bobt9705

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamalsg44ja Your take is very lazy as well. Eli played well in both SuperBowls. You act as if Eli was Dilfer in those SuperBowls. Also Eli had to win other playoff games to get into the Big game. Stephen A keeps using WL stats against Eli but why didn't he bring up his 8-4 post season record which makes him 125-121 record overall?? Because it doesn't fit Stephen A. Smith narrative.

@ladanian560

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobt9705 125-121 still isn’t a good record that just means he’s slightly above average

@bobt9705

2 жыл бұрын

@@ladanian560 lol. So Eli is on the field by himself?? It's a team stat. There are QBs in the Hof with losing records. It's a lazy take to use against a QB. Eli is a lock for the Hof because of his post season accolades. Even with that record I'm still taking Eli's career over 97 percent of his peers during his era.

5:35 Molly: “Tell me when I’m allowed to speak!” Everyone and I mean literally everyone: “Never”

@kevaundavis549

2 жыл бұрын

fr bra she need to stfu all the time

@darnell16player

2 жыл бұрын

Nah idk why people hate on her like crazy as it’s petty to want her silent. It’s out of touch to have women seen and not heard

@ladanian560

2 жыл бұрын

@@darnell16player please stop simping🤦‍♂️😒she literally interrupts majority of the time and her points make no sense

@tra0459

2 жыл бұрын

Molly makes you appreciate Joy Taylor and Jenny Taft so much more

@darnell16player

2 жыл бұрын

@@ladanian560 I am not simping at all. If you’re hating on someone like this for petty reasons you are the problem and you’re a complete idiot

Eli will be a HOF for two reasons. 1) His last name. 2) The QB/Coach on the losing end of those two SBs

@Fairfield34

2 жыл бұрын

That's it and that's all 💯

@Fairfield34

2 жыл бұрын

We will find out the voter's name if someone don't vote for him and he missed out lol 🤣🤣

@bobt9705

2 жыл бұрын

His last name actually hurts him more than helps him. If he wasnt a manning then he would be appreciated more and wouldnt have to live up the hype to his all time top 3 qb in Peyton.

@Bflo23

2 жыл бұрын

How many QBs in NFL history have beat Tom Brady (considered the greatest QB in NFL history) and the Patriots TWICE in the Super Bowl? People make it seem like winning 2 NFL championships is nothing and beating Brady and Patriots is meaningless. He OUTPLAYED Brady twice and made the huge clutch passes.

@harveyworld2372

2 жыл бұрын

@@dominod7415 so Brady made Eli a hall of famer

Sherman is right. However Stafford has the team and is in a situation now where he can get more achievements and votes just from being more visible out in LA.

@westhoodqualzini7884

2 жыл бұрын

Jared Goff took this team to a super bowl so at least 10-15 other qbs could have beat a 2nd year qb in the super bowl with the best defensive player in a generation. So explain to me how that helps matthew stafford who’s doing what 10-15 other guys could do right now

@theophilusone7

2 жыл бұрын

He had Megatron! Good thing he made friends with the refs throughout 13yrs!

@abharvin12

2 жыл бұрын

What votes? MVP votes? Lol. Even if he did get a few mvp votes that doesn’t get you into the hall sorry

@priztucker

2 жыл бұрын

@@westhoodqualzini7884 It helps because as I stated in my comment... He is in a situation where any qb will get the attention and 'looks' just by being in LA. So yea 10-15 other qbs can improve their position for HOF consideration just by playing on the Rams.

@westhoodqualzini7884

2 жыл бұрын

@@priztucker LA means nothing really for football. It’s not the middle of the country. Their one of the few cities where their baseball and basketball team are more popular than their football team

Molly getting hella salty when SAS brought up Eli made my day 😂

Joe Namath is in the HOF while having a losing record as a starter, throwing more int’s than TDs, and having a 50.1% completion rate for his career.

@jtremaine23

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Namath really shouldn't be in but just because he guaranteed a SB win, he's there. It's almost as his name stands for that so people forget about all you mention or don't know it. There are questionable players in all sports. Bill Walton had HOF talent and was great when healthy but some feel it was too short lived.

@deerouse

2 жыл бұрын

@@jtremaine23 Namath beating the Colts is on the same magnitude as Eli beating the Patriots, sans the guarantee. Neither NY team had any business winning either SB. Joe was the first to make the proclaimation, and backed it. That was really impressive.

@jtremaine23

2 жыл бұрын

@@deerouse I agree, it's impressive but I don't think that should launch any player into the Hall just on that alone. That's all.

@GodEmperor_

2 жыл бұрын

I think it was Deion Sanders who said it I can't remember but Joe Namath revolutionzied the entire football league by winning SBIII. Namath is really iconic especially to those who were there to see it.

@jamalsg44ja

2 жыл бұрын

@@GodEmperor_ bruh all facts and I’m glad someone brought this up. Deion spoke with all facts in the world when he said that right there.

Not really. I mean I get the analogy but the reason why ppl put eli in that HoF debate is because of who he beat. In 2007 he beat tony romo, brett favre and the undefeated patriots. In 2011 with a terrible defense and horrible offensive line he beat matt ryan, 15-1 aaron rodger's packers, the 13 win niners, and then tom brady and gronk in the SB. Without eli manning the history books would look a lot different. If the giants don't beat the patriots brady has 5 rings is undefeated in SBs and is widely considered the goat from as early as 2011. Or the cowboys or packers make it to the Sb changing those legacies. Or aaron rodgers makes it to back to back SBs and wins with a 15-1 team. Stafford did great this postseason but eli's runs were more historic bc of who he took down along the way.

@edwinbrown2148

2 жыл бұрын

Well said totally agree

@darryljones411

2 жыл бұрын

I love this insight because I didn’t look at it from this angle. Well said

@bobt9705

2 жыл бұрын

See I'm glad you mention all of Eli's post season wins. Casuals act like Eli won only 2 huge games which was the Superbowl. Eli has 2 of the most incredible playoff runs the NFL will ever see and on top of that ended up being top 10 in most qb stat categories while playing for a bad giants team from 2011 until he retired. Eli even carried a bad overall giants team into the playoffs in 2011 and everything came together during that post season run.

@biglosman

2 жыл бұрын

While being on the road throughout both of those post seasons.

@legendofthefall7082

2 жыл бұрын

The Giants D deserves more credit for beating those teams. They held the all-time great Patriots offense to 17 points. It’s not like Eli went out there and put up 30+ points in a shootout.

If Eli had a super team as loaded as the Rams then he’d have at least another SB. The man won a SB with a bottom tier OL and a defense that in the bottom half of the league coming into the postseason. Also holds the record for most passing yards in a postseason. Beat Brett Favre AND Aaron Rodgers in GB. Beat an undefeated Belichick and Brady. Stafford hasn’t done anything close to that.

@beans2605

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair I would take that OL over any OL they’ve had since.

@inkukhanal9965

2 жыл бұрын

@@beans2605 lol and they weren’t even that good

@boris2997

2 жыл бұрын

The only super that was on that team is Eli Manning him self

@crazyDayz27

2 жыл бұрын

They were washed and now they are a super team. Funny what's being said after the superbowl win

@DefenseWinsChampionships8888

2 жыл бұрын

@@crazyDayz27 Aaron Donald himself called themselves a super team 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣😂

Eli Manning, 57,000yds passing, 7th all time, 222 straight gms played,2xsuperbowl 🏆 champ,iron man, 350 t.d 7th in all the,,,4x pro bowl,,he will get in,,,m.v.p in superbowl

@trevorgrish4847

2 жыл бұрын

And what's his record?

@tuidde

2 жыл бұрын

@@trevorgrish4847 better than rodgers and stafford in the postseason

@ashishthekkedom2947

2 жыл бұрын

3 time interceptions leader, missed playoffs 7 times, was never considered an elite QB.

@FerrariCka216

2 жыл бұрын

@@ashishthekkedom2947 even LeBron has stains everyone has stains on name 📛

@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother

2 жыл бұрын

After seeing this recent group of NFL Hall of Famers, Eli and Matthew Stafford has a very good chance to get in.

Eli Manning has 4 Pro Bowls and 2 Super Bowl MVP. He also won his 2 SBs against the GOAT. Has the NFL record for passing yards and completions in the playoffs. While Stafford basically had an All Star team and barely was able to beat a QB in his second year, while throwing multiple picks throughout the playoffs

@truthknow5502

2 жыл бұрын

You're strongest argument is that Eli beat TB twice. Aside from that, look at Eli's playoff career. 18 TD-9 INT. That's comparable to Staff's 13 TD-6INT. Staff's performance in the playoff this year was phenomenon with a 9 TD to 3 INT. Of those 4 Pro Bowls that Eli made it to, 3 of those years were high in INT's. (29-16 in 2011, 26-15 in 2012, and 35-14 in 2015). Staff's stat this year was 41-17 and didn't even make the Pro Bowl cut. Likewise, Russell Wilson's stats from 2021 (40-13 with a similar team record 12-4) was able to make the Pro Bowl with those numbers. I get people are using accolades against Staff but I think Stafford gets the short end of things. You have guys like Mac Jones making it as an alternate. Mac Jones literally have the same amount of Pro Bowl appearance as Staff. I'm not even factoring in Stafford's circumstances with the Lions. This is just based on this year's performance.

@Acepilot12345

2 жыл бұрын

Nah . Eli manning is only going to Hall because of his last name. If eli gets in than that leaves the flood gates for other QBs to only win 2 superbowls and lead the league in interception 3 times 😂

@TheWoodcookie

2 жыл бұрын

Why do ppl keep calling the Rams a super team or whatever. They have some great players like all championship teams but they have had back up rbs playing almost all season. They lost Woods and Miller and OBJ are not what they used to be but still good.

@fnwrist6649

2 жыл бұрын

@@Acepilot12345 thats exactly what I said because his last name he’s going to get In

@jerryalexander8803

2 жыл бұрын

Pro bowls are a joke.. You can't use pro bowl appearances as a standard for making the hall of fame, pro bowls are just a popularity contest

Stafford should have at least 3-4 pro bowls. He definitely should have made it 2012 and 2015 (arguably in 2011 too), and probably should have made it over Kyler Murray this year. But he's def a borderline guy. He still has a few more years left to solidify his case tho.

@dfrancer

2 жыл бұрын

For staying w the Lions and putting up the numbers he did…..he should be a first ballot. Lol.

@antonmiller3981

2 жыл бұрын

Facts. The 1 time he got into the pro bowl he was a 3rd alt. All he did was take home the MVP.

@nickwagner9551

2 жыл бұрын

U over here arguing pro bowls 😂😂 lol not should of made 1st team all pro or mvp but pro bowls 🤦🏽‍♂️

@TheTruth-mv7hm

2 жыл бұрын

wagner bro that's how low the bar is lowered. 🤣

@nickwagner9551

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheTruth-mv7hm hof in all sports has become so wack bro

Compared to Stafford, Eli had what it takes to make the HOF

Eli won two SB, was two times SB MVP, and 4 or 5 times pro bowler

Molly trying to defend Eli Mannings is just hilarious 😂🤣

@ash1234073

2 жыл бұрын

He has a better resume than Stafford clown!🤣🤣🤣

@marcusgilmore5211

2 жыл бұрын

@UC1nOB8Toycla2XFthS3ov5Q what has Matthew Stafford dead compared to Eli‘s career. Look who he took down in the playoffs. Also The Cardinals didn’t have D-Hop Tom Brady didn’t have his top receivers. And the 49ers loss because of Kyle Shanahan‘s ego and bad play calling. Go back and watch the game for a quarter with like seven minutes left they show Sean McVay and he had a look of defeat on his face. Why do you call a handoff where the bear gets the ball 3 yards behind the line of scrimmage is mind-boggling. The New York Giants feel Eli as an organization as far as building a proper team around him. Go watch the Richard Sherman take on Matthew Stafford being a Hall of Fame quarterback. Also Dana broke no disrespect to you but you’re not one of the top women in wrestling so don’t knock my quarterback...

@lyndonchastain3181

2 жыл бұрын

@@ash1234073 Yeah he also played for an organization that won SBs prior and got to study under Kurt Warner. Stafford played for an 0-16 team the year before and his coach was Jim Schwartz. Also only one playoff win in NFL history. I can literally tell no one watched him in Detroit by these comments

@mpg3946

2 жыл бұрын

Name a fact that she was wrong about. You can’t. Whatever you think f her her argument is solid.

@macmillysoanti4357

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not hilarious because people are always wrong when speaking about ELi career and it’s annoying 😂

The man just spent the last several seasons in Detroit. He is still writing his story, calm down people. Let the man celebrate this accomplishment

Stephen A used to cape for Eli and the Giants back in the day against Skip. This show is all theatre.

Stafford threw for 283 yards and three touchdowns in the Rams' 23-20 Super Bowl win over the Bengals, which means he finished the regular season and playoffs COMBINED with 6,074 passing yards, 50 touchdown passes and a Super Bowl win, which makes him the FIRST quarterback in NFL history to hit all of those benchmarks.

@RunningxRiott

2 жыл бұрын

yeahh but when you look at it that was kupps accomplishment moreso.

@doloboizay

2 жыл бұрын

Could’ve sworn he threw a couple picks in the super bowl and had a team already when he got there 🤷🏾‍♂️

@virgilrobertsjr7870

2 жыл бұрын

@RunningxRiott I guess Kupp threw the ball to himself huh?

@Lazyperry

Жыл бұрын

@@doloboizay This is the one

@pierrebranche9121

Жыл бұрын

@@Lazyperry not the one... Y'all the typas ni**as who think Prescott a great QB 😭🤦🏾‍♂️

Molly with the rare W

@T2PV7

2 жыл бұрын

Uhhh naw 😂

Molly was so upset Stafford won the SuperBowl…Kept say’n he was the 2nd best QB on the field…Then the Eli comparison comes up…Her inner fan surfaces & she loses it 🤣

@princecheck11

2 жыл бұрын

typical molly

@trewilliams8411

2 жыл бұрын

Stephen a is a troll

Eli Manning literally has more Pro bowls I don't know why they are glossing over the fact that Eli had more Pro bowls than Matthew Stafford

@xcwilliams7980

2 жыл бұрын

Because they are popularity contests.

@noahpyke6091

2 жыл бұрын

Cause nobody recognizes the great players of Detroit unless you are a once in a generation talent like megatron or sanders

@victorodiwuor7636

2 жыл бұрын

That doesn’t make him a better player

@legendofthefall7082

2 жыл бұрын

@@xcwilliams7980 not true, only 1/3 of the Pro Bowl vote is determined by fans

@xcwilliams7980

2 жыл бұрын

@@legendofthefall7082 I didn't say a fans popularity contest.... Coaches and players have favorites too.

Eli manning beat Tom Brady and Bill Belicheater twice!! That's no easy feat!

i dont think if he retires today hes a hall of famer but i think hes on the track to being a hall of famer. We have to stop putting guys in the HOF in the middle of their careers.

@hy5ive582

2 жыл бұрын

Middle ? Lol casual

@Paul-vf2wl

2 жыл бұрын

If he plays 5 more seasons he'll be top 5 in all the passing stats

@larryking2698

2 жыл бұрын

@@hy5ive582 my bad i didnt know a 34 year old qb is at the tail end of his career when we got guys playing in their 40's.

@hy5ive582

2 жыл бұрын

@@larryking2698 who Tom Brady and Rodgers ? Cmon bro

@larryking2698

2 жыл бұрын

@@hy5ive582 brees to and his arm was cooked by 2019 but he still played well that year. Stafford's arm is prob gonna age better only worry would be the back issues hes dealt with.

Molly getting frustrated. They had to take the camera off of her 😂🤣🤷🏾‍♂️

Matt Stafford will very likely, almost certainly get the numbers, have the performances in the coming seasons to become a Hall of Famer, regardless of whether he wins the Super Bowl again or not or gets to another. He just needs three to four seasons of good to great play, winning records, and two to three more playoff wins. Eli makes it into the HOF on the basis of longevity, accumulation of numbers, two outstanding Super Bowl runs, and two Super Bowl MVPs...

@kristianharalambiev7685

2 жыл бұрын

Eli makes it cuz he beat the greatest dynasty and qb of all time at the greatest stage. Thats HOF worthy

He may not be a HOF right now but by the end of his career I’m sure he will be. The NFC is wide open as long as he gets Cooper Kupp back he should be in MVP consideration for years to come.

People just disrespect Eli for no reason. It took stafford the closest thing to a super team you can get in the nfl to win, including arguably the best wr, defensive player, and cornerback in the league. Eli never had a team close to the rams

@haydennyagah706

2 жыл бұрын

Eli also never had a team as bad as the Lions were with Stafford

@theonlyone261

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't Eli have one of the best defenses ever? Strahan ring a bell?

@ryanbradshaw3813

2 жыл бұрын

Matt Stafford is superior to Eli in every way. It didnt take Stafford a super team, he went from a terrible organization with little to no talent outside a couple receivers (calvin years he had no o line rb or defense). the best WR also had his best year with Stafford, he had one other year going over 1000 yards. Eli had much better built teams than Stafford ever did in Detroit.

@fk-cz8pz

2 жыл бұрын

@@haydennyagah706 Eli never had anyone close to Calvin Johnson. Dude won a SB with an OL almost as bad as the Bengals OL.

@596beastmode

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanbradshaw3813 rams are a super team

Okay molly I molly you really impressed me on this one not going to lie 💪

QBs get the credit for EVERY win, even when it's clear that defense is the strong suit of team. They're giving Stafford all this credit, and he played his role, but the defense won that Superbowl

Eli beat Tom Brady twice, I don't wanna hear it.

@hipking23

2 жыл бұрын

For real 💯 👏🏾

@VisceralCarbon

2 жыл бұрын

And had a better QBR in that order

@MrJblazini

2 жыл бұрын

Just stop it. So Nick Foles is hof qb too?

@MattTheDreamer7199

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrJblazini Did Nick Foles do it twice? That's what I thought.

@davidmun1601

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

I keep saying this and I stand by it. Before Eli Manning retired this is the same argument they gave about Eli before the last 8 years of his career. Let Matthew Stafford play out his career nobody knows what number he's going to be putting up next year or the year after.

Molly’s face at 4:33 😂😂

Still can’t believe Stafford wasn’t a Pro Bowler this year but Kyler Murray was…

Stafford, Eli, Phillip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Roethlisberger all above average QBs. Better then most of the NFL but none on the Payton, Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Favre level. There are levels to greatness. They were all very good but none great. Flashes for them all but greatness is defined by great + time being great. Can't make the HOF for 3 great years. You just can't.

@AllThingsKen

2 жыл бұрын

Take Ben out of that… he’s better than all of them

@dfrancer

2 жыл бұрын

Hate to tell you this, but Stafford’s numbers will end up crushing Favre’s…..Favre literally averaged 18 INT’s a year.

@theape6778

2 жыл бұрын

The biggest problem w this argument is that the HoF does have this view. Take a look at this class, were each of those really the best of the best? Imo the HoF has tiers but they're hal of famer regardless

@legendofthefall7082

2 жыл бұрын

Philip Rivers is better than every other QB you just mentioned. He was the best QB in the league from 2008-2010. Rivers was the #1 QB in the NFL in: 2008: EPA, EPA+CPOE, AY/A, QB Rating 2009: EPA, EPA+CPOE, AY/A 2010: He was #2 in EPA, AY/A, & QB Rating & #1 in EPA+CPOE He’s also been graded by PFF as the best QB in the league 2 times, the same number as Brees and Rodgers. Only Brady (3 times) and Peyton (5 times) have more seasons as the highest-graded passer.

@bobt9705

2 жыл бұрын

@@legendofthefall7082 lol. How many all pros did Rivers get?? Rivers was NEVER better than Peyton or Brady at any season.

Both are Hall of Famer’s, just not necessarily top tier HOF’ers. Nothing wrong with that. And Stafford’s case will get stronger if he plays a couple more years.

@d.s5508

2 жыл бұрын

Stafford is better than Eli, and he’s still only 33, he could get better

@spaceghost4628

2 жыл бұрын

Idk bro, Eli was no where near hall of fame level though. The mvp of those teams was that defensive line without question. He only won MVP because you can’t give it to OSI, Justin Tuck AND Strahan lol their front 7 was dominant on both runs. They never won a single playoff game outside of those runs and they were a wild card team most the time because Eli was trash in the regular season. He’s never been close to an all pro or even a perennial pro bowler. He was a great Super Bowl clutch performer in his 2 wins but he isn’t a hall of famer by any stretch of the imagination.

@spaceghost4628

2 жыл бұрын

@@d.s5508 stafford is WAY better than Eli. He got a bad wrap because he has a big arm and 0 guidance in Detroit. The entire franchise was on his arm so he got used to some bad habits trying to do too much which is why coaching matters but Mathew is waaaay better than Eli.

Molly: tell me when I’m allowed to speak Fans: never

Even Molly is dragging Stephen A 😂 that’s hilarious

Eli won twice against Prime Tom Brady. Cannot stress this enough. And made legendary throws in both games. Very unique case

@Paul-vf2wl

2 жыл бұрын

The helmet catch wasn't a legendary throw

@mrshorts7167

2 жыл бұрын

@@Paul-vf2wl thank you, it wasn’t, it was a legendary catch

@macmillysoanti4357

2 жыл бұрын

@@Paul-vf2wl yes it was , he avoided the rush 99 times , and let I fly . Definition of clutch / amazing “throw” . Y’all are idiots 😂

@larryking2698

2 жыл бұрын

Youre acting like hes the one that limited one of the best offenses of all time to 14 points. He made enough plays to make sure the defense's effort was not lost. Cant really hate on the 2011 run though, he was the reason they won that one for sure.

@Paul-vf2wl

2 жыл бұрын

@@macmillysoanti4357 He threw up a lame duck it was the same thing Burrow did on the last play 3 days ago. The only difference was the result.

It’s crazy cause I remember everyone in the beginning of the season on Twitter would be like “rams are overrated” the narrative now is mathew stafford had a stacked team he still has much more to prove… I genuinely believe mathew stafford can win mvp next year but I understand the hof debate

@jrad410

2 жыл бұрын

The Rams were among the favorites to win the SB from the get go. They had just been to the divisional round before and as early as week 3 ppl were saying they were the best team in the league

@thechevy1275

2 жыл бұрын

@@jrad410 and most people said 🧢

@thechevy1275

2 жыл бұрын

@@jrad410 on paper the rams should’ve won but come on bro you know dam well everyone was hating on this team and claiming that they are overrated and Matthew stafford is “not that guy”

Happy V-Day to Matthew Stafford!😁

Molly mad ASF lololol love to see that energy

Molly went tf in for Eli that's a real ran right there lol

@Maxmillianr1

2 жыл бұрын

I’d be the same way Eli is goated

Eli Manning got two superbowls with an organization that had a pretty bad track record...Matthew Stafford just got his with an organization that made it to the Super Bowl with a bad QB a couple years ago and had been a contender since. Eli was to 4 Pro Bowls, Stafford just 1 so far and he holds the record for most passing yards in a single post season from 2011 and started 210 consecutive games. Stafford is not in the same tier as Eli.

@tarikmcentire9238

2 жыл бұрын

Also Eli had the best sinlge season post season numbers ever.....look it up!!

@bobt9705

2 жыл бұрын

Bro this Eli slander is getting out of hand right now. Why didn't Stephen mention Eli post season record of 8-4?? I know for a fact that he didn't include those numbers since it makes him 125-121 overall. Eli is getting in because of his post season accolades but they keep harping on his reg season record when the organization has been trash since before the 2011 Superbowl season. Yes Eli carried a bad Giants team to the playoffs in 2011.

@jamespuso1627

2 жыл бұрын

@@tarikmcentire9238 I recall Tom Brady said of Eli that year "if I had a choice I'd rather be down with the ball on the last drive than be up and have Eli Manning with the ball decide it". I don't think he ever feared anyone else that way.

@jamespuso1627

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobt9705 The Giants had a great defense that year I will day but...Eli won a superbowl getting sacked 11 times in the playoffs. That should tell you what he had around him on offense.

@fightforever

2 жыл бұрын

I think Eli makes it in but if I'm picking who I want on my team I'm taking Stafford every time. Stafford has always had great talent but no opportunity to have the playoff accolades because Lions organization has been trash.

Exactly the point I have been making for the last 8 years about Eli. It’s clear since the history of the QB position is weak in the 80’s and 90’s 4K passing was considered a great yards barometer for a QB and if you threw for 3k it was considered a good season. Today with all the rules to assist said position and said side of the ball the QB position is flourishing and now everyone is claiming you can’t win without a great QB. The Giants defense won us two Super Bowls with Manning as QB yet as Molly and nearly every other person who watches football tell it we won only due to the QB. That’s the Agenda from the league and the media and not the facts or reality!

@kerke4639

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, for the past years the format has been a QB playing at a great level gets you to the Super Bowl but a great defense wins you it. This year with the Rams sacking Joe Burrow whenever they want, last year with the Bucs demolishing Mahomes and that attack, the Pats beating the Rams in a great defensive game which was the lowest scoring Super Bowl, the Giants with both of their runs. The Ravens and Broncos recent win. I mean even in Philly’s win, the game was decided by a defensive play. The first team to make a big defensive play won the game. And in the Chiefs game, the 49ers dominated them in the 2nd and 3r quarter when the the Chiefs couldn’t do anything on offense and after they scored for their 2nd TD and after on Chiefs played great defense to keep the 49ers scoreless. And in the 28-3 game, not only did the Pats offense took over but the defense allowed them to score 25 unanswered points dominating a historic offense led by Julio and Matt Ryan. Your defense’s talent and their performance is the deciding factor of the Super Bowl most of the time, especially in the recent years since the game slows down and big plays do not occur as much and it comes down to stops made.

Mathew Stafford has the most yards and tds for any QB in his first 13 seasons and also has the most opposing points scored on him. Detroit was the problem. This mans a hall of famer

Eli Manning should’ve won MVP in 2011. Imagine if the playoffs counted in the award. Eli Manning has been screwed over so many times it’s laughable people question his greatness

George Blanda and Joe Namath are Hall of Famers. That ain’t the “best of the best”

@XBC3-4GOTY

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@bobt9705

2 жыл бұрын

Well said. The anti Eli crowd totally ignored your post.

"tell me when im allowed to speak" *proceeds to speak.*

Talk 👏🏽 that 👏🏽 talk 👏🏽, Molly!

But yet Marcus would say Dak should be in the HOF 😂😂😂

People have always said Stafford has great arm talent the knock against him is interceptions and he played for a terrible run organization. Guarantee if Stafford was on a well run team like Steelers or someone he would have multiple super bowls and is a automatic hall of famer. It's hard to make the pro bowl when the lions only win like 5 games he's been snubbed multiple years. Eli manning should make it but if I'm picking who I want on my team and who's more talented at QB I'm picking Stafford over Eli every time.

@lavontedarby6613

2 жыл бұрын

No matter what happened to Media just don't like to talk about anything that comes out of Detroit good that's why we are the bad boys come on now Eli Manning the man who threw over 340 interceptions in his career if Matthew Stafford throw five picks a game for the next four years he still wouldn't catch that I don't see the comparison he basically called him is that and still have about five years left Stafford simply the better quarterback but we know y'all haters just because he won and they did so much bad talkin about they didn't want to embarrass their self

@nordicblood8470

2 жыл бұрын

Well he is on that organization. This current RAMS team have been in 2 Superbowls and couple of playoffs win along with a innovative young coach.

@micahkiyimba8641

2 жыл бұрын

@@lavontedarby6613 Eli was more clutch than even Peyton. Stafford nor even close to him

Molly: “Tell me when I’m allowed to speak”? Everyone: NEVER

Tell me when I'm allow to speak?!! 😂🤣😂🤦🏾‍♂️

Eli got great defensive performances that saved him. If Asante Samuel catches that int he loses that one. In both of the title runs, the defense held every opponent to 20 points or fewer.

@Oldschool981

2 жыл бұрын

Giants defenses rank for 07 and 11 were 17th and 25th respectively. Eli carried those teams in the playoffs. Especially 11. Stop it.

@jrad410

2 жыл бұрын

@@Oldschool981 but you can’t refute what I said because it’s true. Go look at the final scores and the stat lines of the opposing qbs. Against the Niners they fumbled punts twice which set up the giants for the game winning Fg.

@tyronejenkins5479

2 жыл бұрын

U know the ol saying bout if however he beat the goat twice in the Superbowl mvp both times

@jrad410

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyronejenkins5479 because he only had to score 17 and 19 points to do so. Matt Ryan scored 21 points and lost.

@albaptiste8691

2 жыл бұрын

@@jrad410 the giants d was so good eli needed game winning drives to win both superbowls

Stafford has 100% been a top 3 QB (pro bowl) for many years in the NFC. He didn't make it because of his team. He shouldn't be punished for that because that's what happens when you play in Detroit. Pro bowl is only loosely merit based.

@withallduerespect5073

2 жыл бұрын

he’s never been better than aaron, drew brees and russell wilson came into the picture so no

Anyone watching the Eli led Super Bowl victories knows he came up huge in crunch time.

Eli is a HOF. Stafford is a HOF. He been on a lions team who was trash his whole career and he was always an elite QB just couldn't win with his team. But when you put a team around him he win in his first year.

That’s like saying if Jimmy G has upset the Chiefs he should be a Hall of Famer. I mean it’s not a perfect comparison since Stafford is more talented. But Jimmy G has an incredible winning record so why not throw him in if he wins a Chip. SO stupid😂

@justindodson1280

2 жыл бұрын

Nah that’s way different cause Mathew Stanford’s numbers are insane he’ll finish top 5 in passing yards tds and attempts could win another Super Bowl and the only reason he wasn’t in pro bowls is because of Detroit he shoulda been in plenty of times. He shoulda been in this year over kyler Murray as well

Deion Sanders said this yrs ago the bar has been lowered he doesn’t consider Eli Manning a HOFer Shannon Sharpe also feels the same way Eli had 2 great runs in the playoffs 2007 & 2011 I won’t take that away from dude played out of his mind to win those 2 Super Bowls but still I don’t see him as a HOFer & Molly is acting like Stafford won’t pass Eli’s stats he is only 33 & in that Rams system he’ll put up numbers

@tigerhoods7927

2 жыл бұрын

The hof has been lowered just like in the nba. They’ll say anybody is a hof nowadays

@bobt9705

2 жыл бұрын

Deion Never said that about Eli. He said it has been lowered but then he saw the qbs that are in the Hof and said yea Eli is better than them.

His WR that recently got inducted got in thanks to Matt Stafford but since he wasted his career in Detroit, people are going to say now that he isn't...but he will be.

Man ELI IS 100%. You cannot tell the story of the NFL without what he did in NY idc idc idc

How many of those guys were stuck on a team like the Lions?

@ash1234073

2 жыл бұрын

Excuses lol...🤣

@lyndonchastain3181

2 жыл бұрын

@@ash1234073 Yeah Eli had to force his way out of San Diego lmaoooooo. That tells me all I need to know about him

Stephen A act as if Belichek brought some scrub defense to those Super Bowl games and Eli just got lucky. Both teams had a great defense..the Patriots in one season had not even lost a game..who beat them twice. Eli Manning. Not Ben, not Philip Rivers, not Favre, not Rodgers...Eli Manning when it counted beat a Belichek defense TWICE. Get that man's name out your mouth if you going to disrespect him like that.

@chicago1952

2 жыл бұрын

Eli was average besides his two years he won in the super bowl he had good playoff runs but so did Flacco when he won in 2012 Eli is overrated

People say the giants defense was the reason they won the superbowls to discredit what Eli did.. Yes the defense was elite. But in the 2011 run Eli still holds the record for most passing yards in a single post season. 10 seasons later that record still stands.

He got snubbed a lot from the pro bowl and never wasn’t a alternate because of always had to get treatment after the year and was banged up

Stephen A is spot on

Imagine getting emotional over Eli Manning

@bobt9705

2 жыл бұрын

Why not?? Eli is forever a legend in NY. How many organization still have zero titles??

@kingme1931

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobt9705 It says a lot about New York if mediocrity is legendary

@bobt9705

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingme1931 Mediocrity?? Ok how many organization have 2 titles during Eli's career?? If that's Mediocrity to you then God bless you🤣🤣. We love winners and championships in NY. Maybe where you are from you rather go to the playoffs every year and lose with zero titles.🤣

@kingme1931

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobt9705 When’s the last time a New York sports team won a championship?

@bobt9705

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingme1931 2012. We still have the most titles in all of sports combined out of any state. Be honest, who is your team?? Again we value championships and titles and that's why Eli is so beloved in NY. At the end of the day did you win a title or not?

Mathew stafford has been one of the most underrated players in nfl history. He was consistently rated 78-82 in madden. Nfl analysts overvalue the wins stat for QB’s.. even more than nba analysts. This alone is funny because there’s no more of a team sport than football. You can’t just be an excellent player and get wins. Stafford had to do that for years with lions but PROFESSIONAL SPORTS ANALYSTS were just too lazy to put in the work and watch him.

The argument with The Defense beating TB 12 and The Pats shows that The Pats Defense kryptonite is Eli. Look at The Stats of The 2007 Pats Defense, they were The Top 4 Ranked Defense while The Giants are Ranked 17. The 2011 Giants Defense was much worse and you're crediting The Defense for beating The Pats.

@alfonsopalomino

2 жыл бұрын

Probably bc the patriots only put up 14 and 17 points. Which is really good defense against TB

Beat Tom Brady Twice game winning drives crazy hate when ppl try to look over wat Eli has done

@jrad410

2 жыл бұрын

He defense did the hard work

@djbdjb5844

2 жыл бұрын

@@jrad410 wat did stafford do three 2 picks

Eli was saddled with an awful organization as well his last 7 years. Look at what they’ve done since he’s left.

@YouCanChangeYourWorldToday

2 жыл бұрын

That’s karma for not wanting to get drafted by the Chargers and rather going to a big market like NY

@bobt9705

2 жыл бұрын

@@YouCanChangeYourWorldToday lol at Karma. Eli won 2 titles in the big apple. How many did San Diego get??🤣🤣. Looks like Eli knew what most of us didn't back then.

@sneakyninja0866

2 жыл бұрын

@@YouCanChangeYourWorldToday yea I’m pretty sure he didn’t regret it😂. Ny will forever love Eli.Him and those superbowls will always be remembered. +I don’t think the chargers ever one a Super Bowl during Eli’s career 😭😭

@bobt9705

2 жыл бұрын

@@sneakyninja0866 The chargers never won a title period. That clown said Karma. He must have been on a sabbatical from 07 to 2012.,🤣🤣

SAS always find a way to make himself right even if he is wrong.

Eli’s is not the same. He is the only dude who never lost to Brady and Eli was solid in most seasons. Deserves a spot in the Hall

Them SBs really saved Eli’s career because he was f*ckin average most of his career and same with Stafford, idc bout all the stats because everybody stats are inflated. The only real way you can judge QBs now is by wins, individual awards and SBs.

Why is with this lame topic if Eli and Matthew becoming a HoF cause of their regular season and post season games? Neither of these two don't belong to be in the HoF anyway. HoF has to be someone who shattered records throughout of his NFL career tenure with/without S.B. and MVP title. I agree 100% to what Richard Sherman said, the HoF nowadays standard has been set too low. 😆😂😂 Every sports definitely needs to set a higher standard. It's embarrassing. That's like saying a sport athletic winning a single gold medal becoming a superstar just cause she/he won their first medal. 😆😂😂 HoF is just a laughingstock nowadays cause anyone can get in.

@musafawundu6718

2 жыл бұрын

Your criteria has never even been the standard... Joe Namath wasn't that and he got into the HOF...

@drakedraven6961

2 жыл бұрын

@@musafawundu6718 Your lame statement just backfired. Read carefully in the bottom line of what I just mentioned.

@musafawundu6718

2 жыл бұрын

@@drakedraven6961 What I am saying is that the criteria has for long - that is many decades and not just NOWADAYS - not been as a high a bar as you set in your first few sentences of the first posting that I responded to.

@drakedraven6961

2 жыл бұрын

@@musafawundu6718 I just mentioned in my statement, read. "A person who breaks records over times/years with/without winning the competition throughout his career. That's solidify the stat/resume of becoming a HoF. That's always been the criteria.

Y’all gotta understand tv sas threw Molly the alley oop so incredibly that we won’t even see it.

What's Eli record?

Stafford has 3-5 seasons left in him. He is top 12 in passing yards and passing touchdowns. He is gonna finish his career in the top 5 in yards and touchdowns. That alone will put him in the HOF Also shut up Molly

Comparing Stafford with Eli is sacrilege.

@dirtywake605

2 жыл бұрын

Stafford is on another planet

@kevinburke6055

2 жыл бұрын

@@dirtywake605 u put Stafford on those Giants teams they dont win SBs. Eli in his prime would win a SB with this Rams team.

@dirtywake605

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinburke6055 stop it. Stafford turned cooper kupp from an average receiver to the best receiver in the game. Y’all are just hating

@albaptiste8691

2 жыл бұрын

@@dirtywake605 look at Eli in the playoffs on those 2 Super Bowl runs. Put him in his prime on this rams team for his career he definitely winning more than 2 can’t even compare playoff Eli to stafford

@fightforever

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'd want Stafford on my team over Eli easy he can make all the throws.

It's awesome when they get Molly riled up. Stephen A. always ends up saying "scuse me". Lol

he isnt a first ballot selection as of right now, but hes definitlly getting that gold jacket some day because of "the bar" being lowered

Stafford had a chance to leave the Lions for better team, and instead took the extension. Cant keep giving the "Played in Detroit" excuse forever.

@Maxmillianr1

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

tbh matt ryan had a better Career than both eli and stafford

@ReoBandss

2 жыл бұрын

These playoffs proved Stafford is better than Matt Ryan.

@nbaviis

2 жыл бұрын

Stop the 🧢

@Shark.b101

2 жыл бұрын

@@ReoBandss I mean look at Staffords team he has all pro players on both sides of the ball, Matt Ryan never had a good defense

@ReoBandss

2 жыл бұрын

@@Shark.b101 Matt Ryan had one magical season and it was with Kyle Shanahan. Without that, he has been mediocre. Let’s not forget he had Julio Jones, Roddy White, & Tony Gonzalez. The second Stafford got an offensive mind close to Shanahan and weapons like that, he won the Super Bowl.

@theboy7323

2 жыл бұрын

Atlanta>Detroit

Couldn’t let that man have one day 😂 man who brought this topic up first?

Shid I like hearing molly talking sports lol

Stephen a is a joke Eli took down the undefeated patriots game winning drive and dis man gonna talk about the defense yeah it was great but we can say that about stafford

Eli Manning is a first ballot HOF, at the end of the day the NFL is about winning championships and this man won 2 of them against the GOAT 🐐 of all GOAT'S , stop with the 💩 Steven A 😴

@XBC3-4GOTY

2 жыл бұрын

He’s probably getting in the HOF but he’s no 1st Ballot 🤦‍♂️

@dankodde6721

2 жыл бұрын

Lucky he didn't play for the lions, he'd have zero, same as Stafford had.

difference is Eli never won a super bowl with a 'loaded' team of pro bowlers up and down the roster, brought in from across the league to go for it all---where essentially it was the Rams super bowl to lose from the beginning

Espn had to do better. You can't cut that kind of argument short.

"When is it my turn to talk?" ~ Molly... "Hopefully never." ~ Everyone watching this

Finally Steven A makes some sense

Molly snapped. I love it!

In the end of the day SB mean everything stats are cool but can you be that guy when need over everything

Molly's right about everything what she said about those 2 quarterbacks

Molly snap 😂

Eli’s and matthew Staford cases are very different. yea Mathew won a ring but look at his team vs the team he has to beat vs Eli’s team and the team and the team he had to beat. the playoff runs with Eli was way more impressive than the playoff run Staford had. What makes people get in hof are legendary seasons, moments, stats etc. winning a super bowl is good but the superbowls Eli won were just legendary

Stafford clearly deserve to be on the HOF

"Tell me when I'm allowed to speak?" Hmm......never lol.

God Molly is so annoying- and I’m a Giants fan and am the biggest Eli HOF supporter but I wanted to hear what Marcus was trying to say. It sounded like he was about to back up Molly with some facts of his own, but she wouldn’t let him back in the conversation- she was too busy arguing some frivolous point about what Stephen A said re: LT vs. Donald.

@chadmaitre7534

2 жыл бұрын

I’m giant fan and a ELi supporter, and you and Marcus are annoying.

Molly is crazy on Eli 🤣😅

TALK YO TALK MOLLY