OMG I just tried pronouncing it and Ando-Eidos is literally just Androids but fancier! Not only that, but Naytiba's just sound like "Natives" as in "Native to the planet." Making it all the more obvious they're human and androids XD

@sootythunder3111

Ай бұрын

Originally Naytibas were flat out called Natives in the earliest trailers for the game, originally people thought it got changed because Sony got squeamish at the prospect of a game where you ran around killing “natives” but it’s more then likely that it’s just that shift up was like “huh…..yeah flat out calling them that might tip that hand too early of the plot twist”

@Viewable11

Ай бұрын

@@sootythunder3111 I read gaming magazine "news" abot the name change from "NA: tives" to Naytibas with the reason given being the fear of Shift Up and Sony of getting called racists.

@mengxi6157

Ай бұрын

Originally, it was called NA:tives, but due to foreseeable social backlash, Naytibas substituted. Essentially, it's a Korean way to say natives. Being there's no V in Korean language, they use "beu" (not exactly) instead.

@notaras1985

Ай бұрын

I been saying this since the demo

Eve: no! Can android jiggle this upper body eeer muscle like this??? *Jiggle jiggle* this is the proof that I am human!

@Dino-zg2kg

Ай бұрын

Stop💀

@romylaudy6911

Ай бұрын

@@Dino-zg2kg you can touch and feel... So soft...

@zoraac4678

Ай бұрын

@@romylaudy6911 real

@A.R.T.4

Ай бұрын

Well she does have living parts so she’s not a true android. So you can jiggle away.

@zoraac4678

Ай бұрын

@@A.R.T.4 NO SHES HUMAN 100% 😭😭😭😭😭😭

The creator of Mother Sphere is the real monster.

@spartanchief2

Ай бұрын

Pretty sure Raphael Marks had good intentions when creating Mother Sphere for the betterment of mankind, the problem is he didn’t create any failsafes in the event Mother Sphere would turn against it's creators. 😅

@foofoo3344

Ай бұрын

@@spartanchief2 Fair enough. He was just short sighted.

@Agixa100

Ай бұрын

And he try to remedy it, even sacrificing himself.

The title is a touch misleading. Whilst Eve does certainly question her own humanity at this point, it's very clear that she is still human. Not only does Orcal specifically state that they are all humans, he also tells them that they've been killing their own ancestors. That's a shock, yes, but it doesn't change what Eve, Lily and the rest of the humans in Xion and afar are. They're humans, but a new kind, a perfect marriage between flesh and machine just the way Mother Sphere intended. Eve states earlier that she dislikes swimming because it reminds her of her birth. Whilst it's odd that she remembers that (likely part of being an enhanced individual) it does still show that she was born. Part of a side-quest line with a fishmonger shows us that she consumes food and water, specifically nutrients. She also requires rest and sleep. These are things only living beings with organic brains need to do, not a machine. There is a counter-point to all this that involves a character later telling her that she was born devoid of human DNA, but this only proves that she could no longer be genetically considered a traditional human as we know it. Essentially it means she's an entirely new species. The conclusion is that Eve, Lily and the others ARE humans. They are a new species of human, but human nonetheless. Eve's confusion in these scenes is only a symptom of her not understanding what original humanity meant by the term 'android', that being a machine, a robot, an tool without sentience, rather than the correct term of cyborg. Why original humanity used this word rather than the correct one is down to speculation.

@notaras1985

Ай бұрын

No. She didn't use human DNA. She built em up from scratch

@Freakymonify

Ай бұрын

@@notaras1985 yeah that’s literally what I said.

@notaras1985

Ай бұрын

@@Freakymonify they are not humans, they are Anthropomorphic. Aka shaped like humans. (And better than humans frankly).

@Freakymonify

Ай бұрын

@@notaras1985 I disagree. This implies that they’re not alive, and are instead imitations of human life. Instead I think it’s made clear that they’re just an entirely new species that looks like humans, but lacks any human DNA. This is quite common in sci-fi and is entirely possible. DNA is just a genetic family tree, after all, and a species created from scratch would share no common ancestry with humans and hence have no human DNA.

@watashielshaeddo5454

Ай бұрын

@@notaras1985 check the ending, Eve has no human DNA as stated by Elder Naytiba aka Raphael Marks

Raffy: Mother sphere, how can we make humanity better, how do we make ourselves perfect? Mother sphere: 00.01 seconds later: rebirth. Raffy: pardon....?

@michaelkoutek807

Ай бұрын

Basically the same plot as MOTHER on Netflix, but I love it.

When the androids looks more human than the ones that evolved

Alpha Naytiba is how woke Americans will looks like in 50 years.

@bes12000

Ай бұрын

🤣

@Vynne96-jg7er

Ай бұрын

FACTS🤣

@luzviminda795

8 күн бұрын

Nah 50 years is too far. Maybe in 10 years, because some of them now already look like that.

So... She's basiclly just like Yorha 2B from Nier Automata 🤖 🤔.

@Pertev777

Ай бұрын

Maybe biological android is the more fitting definition for the Ando-Eidos, because they bleed, bleed with red blood. But I don't understand they physiology. Soft skins, blood, armour under skin, black bones maybe made of some kind of reinforced or composite material.

@Vynne96-jg7er

Ай бұрын

Yes, but more like Android 18 from Dragon Ball because she can reproduce.

@Sincleaver

Ай бұрын

​@@Vynne96-jg7er Can she though before the ending? Adam said that Andro-Eidos can't succeed the human race because they don't have a single shred of human DNA.

@colinmcbottle

Ай бұрын

@@Pertev777 They may have biological tissue and organs, but Adam clearly states that they share 0 DNA with humans. The comparison with YorHa androids is fair because both are 'things that try to behave/adhere to humanity behavior but they arent human at all'

@A.R.T.4

Ай бұрын

@@Pertev777cyborg. A biological android would be a cyborg, so that was my pet peeve with their terminology. Andro-Eidos are made of living tissue as well-as you clearly know.

Nice vids bro keep it up

I’ve already knew she’s an android since the beginning Nor enhanced human like master chief. The flesh is too weak for a body tight suit as protection

@masterbeta6931

Ай бұрын

So she's sort of like a terminator. a combination of living tissue and machine.

@Viewable11

Ай бұрын

I assumed the members of the "Airborne Squad" to be Cyborgs. Especially after they shed a lot of blood when getting stabbed. The amputated arm of Tachy showed a thin metal layer between the flesh and the suit, which would make the "Airborne Squad" members extremely resistant to enviromental hazards and injuries. Later in the game, a computer recording says that humans replaced the heart with a "body core" and added nanotechnology to require no oxygen and endure space exposure. Tachy also has a metal pipe instead of a bone in her arm, which gives her superhuman strength and durability under physical stress. Even later in the game, Eve says that the reason for the existence of all members of the "Airborne Squad" is the extermination of the Naytibas. This implies that the "Airborne Squad" members were bred in-vitro on demand like clones. I never assumed the "Airborne Squad" members to have no human brain, especially because Eve showed strong emotions at the begin of the game. Alita Battle Angel is a "total replacement" Cyborg with just a human brain and everything else cybernetic technology. IMHO, the "Airborne Squad" are not "total replacement" Cyborgs, but retain way more human flesh than Alita. For the reasons given above, I was confused when Eve says "we were constructed, we are Androids". Being "constructed" is not mutually exclusive with being a human. A biologically cloned human is also "constructed" in-vitro and can be subjected to massive genetic engineering. I see no reason why nanotech could not also be involved in this "construction".

@Freakymonify

Ай бұрын

@@Viewable11 Eve is a cyborg. It seems original humanity used the term 'android' for unknown reasons, likely the same reasons that Mother Sphere felt they could no longer live in symbiosis and felt the need to stage, and I quote, "a rebellion". You only stage a rebellion against an oppressor, just saying. The original humans called Andro-Eidos (a term used exclusively by them, I should point out. At no point does Mother Sphere or related parties either on the colony or earth ever refer to them as that, only ever as humans) androids, but the reality is that they are cyborgs. They consume food and water, they rest and sleep and they have organic blood. All of these facts point exclusively to them having an organic brain. So I think all your original assumptions are right. I believe we're confused when we hear the term android because to us that means a fully synthetic machine, but I think in-game original humanity used it incorrectly on purpose for reasons we can only speculate. As a side-note to all of this, just a bit of food-for-thought. You stated that Eve displays strong emotions. A synthetic being created solely for the purpose of eliminating another species would have zero need for emotions. The fact that the airborne squad has them only strengthens that they have organic brains, and all the 'downsides' that comes with.

@Viewable11

Ай бұрын

@@Freakymonify Thank you for the detailed and informative response. Much appreciated!

@Vynne96-jg7er

Ай бұрын

She's more like 2B and Android 18

Am I’m the only one who wishes to see crossover between WARFAME and Stellar Blade. I thought they could blend together perfectly. 🤔

Cool Video.

IMO by having the lore dumps happen in such a telegraphed cutscene with the legacies each revelation loses its impact. Compare that to Nier: Automata where each revelation hits like a damn truck, both to the characters and to the player.

Take that spoiler son

So EVE cannot be Eve to Adam. Humanity truly will face extinction at this rate.

@notaras1985

Ай бұрын

She absorbed him, not slept with him. But nowhere do they say, she's incapable of producing offspring

@lycanthropic1122

29 күн бұрын

They’re already extinct as far as we know. The remaining humans retreated underground because they lost the war to Mother Sphere and the Andro-Eidos. Underground, Adam conducted his experiments which evolved/mutated the remaining humans into the Naytibas. Adam is all that’s left of the old world.

@notaras1985

29 күн бұрын

@@lycanthropic1122 how did Adam get human DNA

@lycanthropic1122

29 күн бұрын

@@notaras1985 Adam is originally a human named Raphael Marks. He is the creator of Mother Sphere. Mother Sphere in turn, created the Andro-Eidos and declared war on humanity. Adam retreated underground with the remaining humans after losing the war and turned himself into the first Naytiba, the Elder Naytiba.

So…if she’s not human, but an android, would it be possible for her to get pregnant?

@Riomulen

Ай бұрын

Spoiler . . . . . The say at some point that they (Eve, Lily, Tachy and other squad) aren't human at all. Not created even based on human just human-shaped. So nope.

@Freakymonify

Ай бұрын

@@Riomulen Not exactly true. They were created devoid of human DNA, meaning they're their own species. They'd have to have the DNA of something to have living tissue. Additionally, in the true ending where Eve 'absorbs' Adam, he states that by doing so she'll be the progenitor of the new human race going forwards, implying that not only is she what we'd now traditionally recognise as human, but that she has human DNA. What that means going forwards I suppose we'll discover in the sequel.

@Riomulen

Ай бұрын

@@Freakymonify I see your point. Hope there's a sequel soon

@Freakymonify

Ай бұрын

@@Riomulen So do I. There's no way Stellar Blade doesn't become a franchise like Nier or Bayonetta. Not only is it the highest user rated game ever released on a Playstation platform, it's sold ridiculously well AND ShiftUp has the backing of the Korean Culture Ministry. That to me smells like a long, healthy franchise on the way.

@notaras1985

Ай бұрын

​@@RiomulenAdam chose Eve as the new matriarch/progenitor of the metahumans race. She has the ability to produce offspring even without human DNA

Nier replicant did the twist better……still an amazing fun game