Steins;Gate is a Heideggerian Nightmare

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1. The Most Popular Form of Time-Travel: 0:00 - 2:09
2. Steins;Gate's Version of Time-Travel: 2:10 - 3:28
3. Set-Up (Heidegger): 3:29 - 4:24
4. Heidegger's Philosophy: 4:25 - 9:25
5. Heidegger and Steins;Gate (Summary): 9:26 - 12:31
6. The Importance of Mayuri: 12:32 - 14:11
7. Time-Travel's Impact On Heidegger's Philosophy?: 14:12 - 17:46
8. Our Response to Fate: 17:47 - 20:18
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  • @SimonSlav-GameMakingJourney
    @SimonSlav-GameMakingJourneyАй бұрын

    Steins;Gate makes you feel stuff man

  • @ben-taobeneton3945

    @ben-taobeneton3945

    Ай бұрын

    it does

  • @LuisSierra42

    @LuisSierra42

    Ай бұрын

    Kurisu best girl

  • @ben-taobeneton3945

    @ben-taobeneton3945

    Ай бұрын

    @@LuisSierra42 tru

  • @ricco48219

    @ricco48219

    Ай бұрын

    That ending though

  • @un_realekztermin80r

    @un_realekztermin80r

    5 күн бұрын

    I...feel... READING STEINEERRR!!!!

  • @madengineerkyouma
    @madengineerkyoumaАй бұрын

    El. Psy. Kongroo.

  • @VitorBrauer

    @VitorBrauer

    Ай бұрын

    Best moment in the game and in the show. If you know, you know.

  • @ffxiikd1426

    @ffxiikd1426

    Ай бұрын

    💯

  • @blackreaperkaneki9900

    @blackreaperkaneki9900

    3 күн бұрын

    Is it Congroo or Kongroo? I’ve always pronounced it as Congroo.

  • @madengineerkyouma

    @madengineerkyouma

    3 күн бұрын

    @@blackreaperkaneki9900 Several translations write it as Congroo, but if you pay attention to the email from future Okabe you can see it is from an address called "sg-epk", which clearly means "Steins Gate - El Psy Kongroo"

  • @dinglian4706

    @dinglian4706

    2 күн бұрын

    @@blackreaperkaneki9900 it's kinda like both, in the Visual Novel it's called El Psy Kongroo with a k that is why when Okabe received a d-mail from his future self its called epk(el psy kongroo), while in the anime it's subtitled as El Psy Congroo with a C.

  • @kyleespinoza7201
    @kyleespinoza7201Ай бұрын

    The thing I love about Steins;Gate's time travel is that it's remarkably self consistent with its logic without it necessarily eating itself.

  • @soccerandtrack10

    @soccerandtrack10

    Ай бұрын

    So most stuff is a oroboris 0?... meta commentary?..., because its time traval?...

  • @kyleespinoza7201

    @kyleespinoza7201

    Ай бұрын

    @soccerandtrack10 I can't even begin to put together what you're trying to say

  • @ben-taobeneton3945

    @ben-taobeneton3945

    Ай бұрын

    very good point.

  • @smartsmartie7142

    @smartsmartie7142

    Ай бұрын

    The only stuff I don't like is "don't look at yourself or you will cause a time Paradoxon"

  • @MoustachioFurioso83

    @MoustachioFurioso83

    Ай бұрын

    There is one major exception though. How accessing CERN's database and erasing all traces of the first D-mail that was accidentally sent somehow changed the timeline without the use of any time leap or D-mail on Okabe's part.

  • @PetelProduction
    @PetelProductionАй бұрын

    in the visual novel, if the player chooses not to help Suzuha and fix her time machine, Okabe willingly put himself in a time loop, where he spend the rest of Mayury's life hanging out with everyone and having fun, going cycling, going to the anime convention, and then after Mayury dies he does that again. and again. and again. and after a while he starts having weird thoughts. what if i wouldn't worn Daru of that car and just let him get run over? he'll die, but then everything will go back to normal anyway. I could be a jerk to everyone. i could have my way with Mayuri, and there would be no repercussion. and slowly he start loosing it. he no longer remembers why he goes through the loop, and he get stuck there. until Suzuha approaches him one time. She says his expression is empty, and she concludes he's been time leaping. in order to help him she decides to take him with her using the time machine. Next time Okabe time leap, they don't go to the convention or to have fun, but fix the time machine, and in the end, he goes with Suzuha. I hope I didn't misremembered anything. I felt this was relevant to the video.

  • @aldeayeah

    @aldeayeah

    Ай бұрын

    Indeed that would be an scenario where the continued avoidance of death / lasting consequences would whittle away at a person's humanity.

  • @DavidPereiraLima123

    @DavidPereiraLima123

    Ай бұрын

    This is one of the visual novel endings. I got the same, first time.

  • @Reality-Distortion

    @Reality-Distortion

    Ай бұрын

    Iirc he considered having his way with Suzuha, not Mayuri.

  • @PetelProduction

    @PetelProduction

    Ай бұрын

    @@Reality-Distortion I knew I misremembered somethings...

  • @aldeayeah

    @aldeayeah

    Ай бұрын

    @@Reality-Distortion which is kinda funny because Suzuha would absolutely kick his scrawny ass.

  • @wernerviehhauser94
    @wernerviehhauser94Ай бұрын

    Reminds me of Kain's attempt to try long enough until "the coin lands on its edge"

  • @ShadowCthulhu

    @ShadowCthulhu

    Ай бұрын

    I was going to mention this very thing. I need to look at Derrat's backlog and see if he covered Legacy of Kain.

  • @KeitrenGraves

    @KeitrenGraves

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@ShadowCthulhuHe did two videos about it

  • @ShadowCthulhu

    @ShadowCthulhu

    Ай бұрын

    @@KeitrenGraves Thank, I just watched one of them.

  • @DavidPereiraLima123

    @DavidPereiraLima123

    Ай бұрын

    Fine, fine, fine! You guys convinced me, I'm playing it. Everyone always goes on about the "greatest time travel plot ever", and I'm a sucker for this trope. I've already researched the best versions of the chronology.

  • @ShadowCthulhu

    @ShadowCthulhu

    Ай бұрын

    @@DavidPereiraLima123 Legacy of Kain or Steins Gate?

  • @Killersean900
    @Killersean900Ай бұрын

    I have to give you utmost commendation for this video, Mr. Derrat. I am a philosophy major in college, as well of a fan of Heidegger’s work, and I must admit that I was rather shocked to see a video on a popular anime even dare to MENTION a philosopher as intimidating and abstruse as Heidegger. I think videos like this are incredibly valuable, not only because of their entertainment value as individual works, but because they allow an entry point for people into more intimidating intellectual subjects, which are usually rendered completely alien to average people. I know that some people believe that complex philosophy shouldn’t be attached to mere popular media, as they’re afraid of “diluting” the works and their messages, but I believe that doing so is excellent for getting more people interested. A fantastic work to be sure, and I can’t wait to see what else you’ll make!

  • @maxderrat

    @maxderrat

    Ай бұрын

    Dude, thank you so much for this comment. You literally made my week.

  • @smartsmartie7142

    @smartsmartie7142

    Ай бұрын

    Yep, this channel got me into psychology and existential questions. I am a big fan, I started reading Jung because of all the videos.

  • @user-xx3ds6tv4b

    @user-xx3ds6tv4b

    Ай бұрын

    You interpreted my thoughts in the best possible way

  • @pelicanseal

    @pelicanseal

    28 күн бұрын

    Kind of a patronizing way to think about Heidegger’s work, no?

  • @madengineerkyouma
    @madengineerkyoumaАй бұрын

    "Start world war 3 to avenge her death" Heh, I see what you did there.

  • @rextcttv

    @rextcttv

    Ай бұрын

    huh?

  • @jackalope2302

    @jackalope2302

    Ай бұрын

    What did Max do?

  • @dorkmoonblade4315

    @dorkmoonblade4315

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@jackalope2302It's a reference. One of the other realities that Okabe struggles against is one where WW3 happens.

  • @ben-taobeneton3945

    @ben-taobeneton3945

    Ай бұрын

    I think this was Okabes line.

  • @jackalope2302

    @jackalope2302

    Ай бұрын

    @@dorkmoonblade4315 ok. Been a while since I saw it last.

  • @DaTLMusic
    @DaTLMusicАй бұрын

    Steins gate is consistent with its own rules. Even if the microwave cellphone is gibberish

  • @gilroyscopa

    @gilroyscopa

    20 күн бұрын

    Not even that much in the visual novel. A huge chunk of the early story is basically physics lectures as they're trying to figure things out. I actually looked up a lot of the concepts presentet there and it is very close to reality

  • @user-qg4ee5mq4u
    @user-qg4ee5mq4u28 күн бұрын

    I started this video, and remembered that I never finished Steins;Gate, paused the video, watched all episodes, went back and watched the video 10/10

  • @XzMondayNightzX
    @XzMondayNightzXАй бұрын

    When I have to look up what the word Heideggerian means you know it's going to be a good video. Also "Time Haunted" is pretty metal sounding.

  • @thegogoodgaming
    @thegogoodgamingАй бұрын

    Its not his consciousness that gets sent back in time, its his memories and only that, as Kurisu says in the manga: "The point to understand is that only memories are sent back. Not a person's personality or consciousness."

  • @Xe-N0N

    @Xe-N0N

    28 күн бұрын

    But personality is connected to memories not body. Unless personality and behaviour is in great effects from impulses and desires which are connected to the body...

  • @max-ii9kd

    @max-ii9kd

    28 күн бұрын

    well I think in the world of S;G memories do affect personality so in a way, you could say that personality is also sent back with your memories. we have been seeing the story from Okabe's perspective but let's talk about it from a different perspective. in a beta world-line where Okabe didn't send the d-mail about Kurisu to Daru, he continued living his life normally and non-chalantly like he was at the beginning, then suddenly on the 17th he looked in so much pain that he was about to cry, Mayuri comforted him and after that decided to seal away HK and destroy the phonewave, a clear contrast from how he was before he RSed into the beta world-line. then the events of SG0 anime happens where Okabe becomes a somewhat different person. he's more grown up and responsible but also self-centered and kind of an asshole. his older self was arrogant, non-chalant but also very kind and understanding. so in a way, his memories greatly affected his personality. There are other examples but I'm trying to avoid spoilers as much as I can.

  • @TheWolfgangGrimmer

    @TheWolfgangGrimmer

    25 күн бұрын

    Not exacttly. Kurisu says that during the final buiding phase yes, but practical application of the device instantly disproves this notion, and they never end up figuring out why.

  • @steadyrow
    @steadyrowАй бұрын

    the funny thing about steins gate is that the time travel is the least compelling part, and not because it isn't good. on the contracy, it's great but everything else is just so well done.

  • @nomniguerre

    @nomniguerre

    Ай бұрын

    contrary

  • @barclaycork-ys5wz

    @barclaycork-ys5wz

    Ай бұрын

    The time travel is so good that it is almost trivial.

  • @AylienYu
    @AylienYuАй бұрын

    Steins;Gate is the most cerebral experience in media for me. No matter how much gibberish it has, no other media has spoken to me on so many levels. I'm only sad I can't experience it again. Many people did not enjoy Steins;Gate 0 but the reflection on dealing with loss was personally invaluable to me.

  • @DarkVeghetta

    @DarkVeghetta

    Ай бұрын

    From what I've understood, the visual novel is even better and more expansive. As such, you might be able to experience it again if you've only seen the anime.

  • @BlazeStorm

    @BlazeStorm

    Ай бұрын

    Can confirm, I played the VN after the anime already was my favourite and it was great. Though you probably need a guide to reach the ending the show has. Some of the other ones are... dark

  • @AylienYu

    @AylienYu

    Ай бұрын

    @@DarkVeghetta sadly I played it first.

  • @hassanahmed2275

    @hassanahmed2275

    Күн бұрын

    Yeah, I feel the people who disliked 0's anime (me included) wouldn't have if they'd experienced its VN with all of the endings beforehand. They did their best to make a whole new continuity for the anime and make the already non-linear narrative a bit more understandable for viewers. I rewatched 0 a few days ago and realised that the anime is peak too once you have context from the VN. (I also just adore Messenger )

  • @andrewmaxconely
    @andrewmaxconelyАй бұрын

    "Nature abhors a vacuum, time abhors a rerun." If you missed the movie, make sure to watch it. Steins Gate has withstood the test of time and aged VERY well, compared to other top anime. It has always been my number 1, and I don't see it aging out of relevancy. Also, it has one of the truest good English dubs. These day I lament almost all English dubs, but this one was best in class for sure.

  • @Epsilon-01
    @Epsilon-01Ай бұрын

    Order from Chaos, Chaos from Order, Such lovely music, Fate plays it, But we make the notes, We don't dance to the tune, We are the tune, There is no Fate but what we make, and a coin can land on its edge.

  • @DarkVeghetta

    @DarkVeghetta

    Ай бұрын

    I understood that last reference. Also, this would work better if it was in poem format, but it was lovely regardless.

  • @Epsilon-01

    @Epsilon-01

    Ай бұрын

    @DarkVeghetta I'm not a poet, but this does reflect some of my personal philosophy. The only certainty in the universe is that nothing is certain. Embrace Chaos, and create from it Order, that is the nature of the universe.

  • @m.guedes
    @m.guedesАй бұрын

    2:55 The point about the "ridiculous method" in Steins;Gate is that, in fact, any representation of time travel device is ridiculous in concept, whether is a car, a man-built machine, or a bathtub. Steins;Gate did not waste time explaining that so it could focus on the important aspects of the history, characters, and plot from the start. The impact we have when the first time travel happens is incredible because you spend a lot of time with the characters in the Alpha timeline before even realizing it. So a microwave and a cell phone would do as a device to make the jumps between Alpha, Steins, and Beta. A microwave with a cell phone it is not more ridiculous than a car running at 88 miles per hour. El Psy Congroo.

  • @flikkie72
    @flikkie7227 күн бұрын

    So many years after watching this anime, I'm still extremely excited when I see anything pop up on it on youtube. Thanks for giving it some time in the spotlight!

  • @soccerandtrack10
    @soccerandtrack10Ай бұрын

    "The highest hights, the lowest lows, through the big forest and the biggest lake the brightest days The darkest nights."

  • @sebastiancollins01
    @sebastiancollins01Ай бұрын

    May 26th 2024 I was watching Max Derrat talk about Steins;Gate. How about you?

  • @Ken-lv4ww

    @Ken-lv4ww

    Ай бұрын

    Same

  • @Zrytun

    @Zrytun

    Ай бұрын

    March 30 2036

  • @migaru7362

    @migaru7362

    5 күн бұрын

    June 26th 2024

  • @wcjerky
    @wcjerky28 күн бұрын

    Literally just finished this VN so correction at 12:00: SERN's Rounders don't want to kill Okabe, Daru, and Kurisu, but to enslave them to finish SERN's time machine. They deem Mayuri as expendable, hence exposing the point of 'convergence' in each of the divergences. EDIT: Steins;Gate invites me to read the other Science Adventure series.

  • @elf-alchemist
    @elf-alchemistАй бұрын

    I was reminded of Minute Physics, who made a video on different ways pieces of fiction represent time travel, it reveals more subtle differences in the way time flows in them. "Time Travel in Fiction Rundown" it is called, I think it's a nice complement to anyone interested in fictional time travel.

  • @tinkyy4516
    @tinkyy4516Ай бұрын

    Petition for Max to watch "From the New World" and "Land of the Lustrous" next. Great video again!

  • @ZWZDOzLtxBEO

    @ZWZDOzLtxBEO

    Ай бұрын

    read* houseki no kuni. anime doesn't cover enough to yield a video from Max. but regarding shinsekai yori, 100% anime over manga

  • @Marco_Onyxheart
    @Marco_OnyxheartАй бұрын

    As a Dutchman, speaking a language similar to German, I think I'd translate dasein as presence. But there is an intrinsic sense of meaning to this word that's almost impossible to translate. One could say that when Okabe says Mayuri's death no longer affects him, he's checked out, he's no longer mentally present. He's lost his dasein/presence. But I'm by no means knowledgeable about Heidegger, so I'm not promising this is what he meant. But yeah, very difficult to translate dasein. It means something like "there being", but the fact that it is one word also conveys meaning. And English just doesn't do that.

  • @Creep187SAas

    @Creep187SAas

    Ай бұрын

    Hi, "presence" is actually pretty acurate. "dasein" spelled lower case actually means "to be there", "Dasein" spelled uppercase could be translated as "existence" or even "being". "Mein gesamtes Dasein" basically translates to "my entire existence,/ my entire being". As you said, the exact measning isn't very easy to convey.

  • @jarnodatema

    @jarnodatema

    Ай бұрын

    Goed gezegd

  • @iota-09

    @iota-09

    Ай бұрын

    @@Creep187SAas "presence of self, presence in time, presence in the world"... hmm... would then "mindfulness" be used in a different way to translate the word? synonyms exist so a word having more than one meaning is perfectly plausible if that helps ocnveying its meaning.

  • @worldtownfc
    @worldtownfcАй бұрын

    Steins;Gate is a masterpiece. Fascinating perspective from Martin Heidegger. I learned about the concept of dasein from this video. Rintaro Okabe's time traveling dream turns into his ultimate nightmare when he unknowingly drags his friends and loved ones into SERN's machinations. Rintaro's road to save Mayuri from her death at the hands of SERN and fate is noble and not only for love, but to save an innocent because he was the ultimate cause of her death. Rintaro destroys himself by going back in time over and over to save Mayuri, who appears cursed to die. He makes some progress. Eventually, fate hands Rintaro a cruel choice between saving Mayuri or Kurisu. Which loved one deserves to live? Rintaro chooses the third way to suffer, to save everyone, and to overthrow fate. Rintaro imposed his will upon SERN, his world, and the world line. He had great friends to support him. He won at any personal cost. A superman. Or maybe, Rintaro became an ubermensch. Screw SERN. Spend billions on a collider and other fancy equipment. Imagine the look on their faces when some random people in Japan discovered time travel with a PC, flip phone, and microwave. They got spies everywhere. The elites killed Rintaro and Kurisu's dream of time travel. Sometimes, it makes you wonder who might be a spy or an assassin that will end your life when you step out of line. Your landlord? Your neighbor? Your coworker? Could be anyone.

  • @obsoletetortoise4785
    @obsoletetortoise4785Ай бұрын

    I've always been interested in this anime, thank you for the amazing content!

  • @hoynovski
    @hoynovskiАй бұрын

    As always, fantastic video Max. Thank you.

  • @sniperganso
    @snipergansoАй бұрын

    that soul reaver 2 soundtrack in the background, great choice in the theme of time travel

  • @theflashgordon193

    @theflashgordon193

    Ай бұрын

    Wanted to comment that 😂. Also I have the urge to watch soul reaver cutscenes and orgasmic dialogue once again

  • @HeaRtllesSs

    @HeaRtllesSs

    Ай бұрын

    Do you know by any chance what is the name of the track? Cause i tried checking the full ost and i could not find the one playing here

  • @sniperganso

    @sniperganso

    Ай бұрын

    m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/eHeqrbV6kpvFc7A.html

  • @theflashgordon193

    @theflashgordon193

    Ай бұрын

    @@HeaRtllesSs I'm surprised but apparently it's souls reaver 2 pillar battle theme

  • @HeaRtllesSs

    @HeaRtllesSs

    Ай бұрын

    @@theflashgordon193 Thanks , do you know maybe which one is playing at 5:00 till 6:00 ?

  • @BurghezulDjentilom
    @BurghezulDjentilomАй бұрын

    When that Nier music hit when talking about Mayuri's death... I got hit with the big sads all over again, and felt like punching a wall. F you Max, and I can't wait for your every future video.

  • @razzle8140
    @razzle81409 күн бұрын

    I just rewatched this series, in the correct order and it's AMAZING you just uploaded this video! Just in time for me!

  • @Scharfster
    @ScharfsterАй бұрын

    17:27 that's almost the plot to Steins;Gate0, better start watching, Max! ;D

  • @trynira4900
    @trynira4900Ай бұрын

    Thank you for giving me more reasons too love this show. Might have to rewatch it yet again, I wonder what else I could have not picked up on.

  • @grecianking4428
    @grecianking4428Ай бұрын

    hey you posted this on the day heidegger died

  • @Davlavi
    @Davlavi10 күн бұрын

    Informative as always.

  • @MetalSymphony
    @MetalSymphonyАй бұрын

    I like to imagine to myself that Chiyomaru Shikura and Ryukishi07 are drinking buddies. Their stories explore very similar themes, and the music division of Shikura's company, MAGES. Inc, has created many songs for 07th Expansion over the years, with Shikura writing many of the songs himself. One gets the impression that there may be more than just a platonic business relationship between these two. Maybe something like a shared vision. Higurashi has a very similar struggle against fate as a central theme. Though it isn't so obvious from the beginning, it does become intensely compelling when the pieces start to come together. It's also much more psychologically focused compared to Steins;Gate. The first Science Adventure story, Chaos;Head, is much more psychological too, though its anime adaptation should be avoided. Steins;Gate is the one and only Science Adventure anime to have a good reputation, though of course the source material is always best. You may know Ryukishi as the guy who's writing the story for Silent Hill F. I wonder how that's going to turn out? There's already a ton of Higurashi and Steins;Gate fan content and analysis out there, which is great. But I think Chaos;Head really deserves more attention, especially since Steins;Gate wouldn't exist without it. When one of the earliest tooltips you get in the VN referenced Freud and Jung, I knew I was in for something special.

  • @KidMangaX

    @KidMangaX

    Ай бұрын

    This is a very interesting take. I would not put it past Ki-- Ryukishi-sensei.

  • @milkwater1204
    @milkwater1204Ай бұрын

    Steins;Gate is possibly my favourite work of science fiction I've ever encountered. There is so much to be discussed, and yet there are little to no loose threads.

  • @twigpoppapump6985
    @twigpoppapump698529 күн бұрын

    Never stop Max , you’re the man

  • @thedandyzebra
    @thedandyzebraАй бұрын

    this is a masterpiece work of media commentary

  • @CamelliaFlingert
    @CamelliaFlingertАй бұрын

    2:55 *cough cough* Outer Wil--

  • @manashieldworld

    @manashieldworld

    Ай бұрын

    Dude every time I hear this game get mentioned I get more and more intrigued. I gotta finally play it.

  • @david.9633
    @david.9633Ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for doing a video on this

  • @maxderrat

    @maxderrat

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for taking time out of your day to watch, David!

  • @krzysztofpaweczyk1515
    @krzysztofpaweczyk1515Ай бұрын

    Is it about only anime, or one of the best things ever - original Visual Novel?

  • @anomitas

    @anomitas

    Ай бұрын

    vn is better

  • @TheWolfgangGrimmer

    @TheWolfgangGrimmer

    25 күн бұрын

    @@anomitas That's what he said.

  • @anomitas

    @anomitas

    20 күн бұрын

    @@TheWolfgangGrimmer yeah so

  • @johnkim7890
    @johnkim7890Ай бұрын

    Max Derrat talks about Heidegger but Ruka is still a dude, Max Derrat talks about how Mayuri would be someone to start world war 3 over... but Ruka is still a dude, information gets sent over a mini black hole... but Ruka is still a dude, Krisutina should not have the tina and Ruka is still a dude.

  • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116

    @misanthropicservitorofmars2116

    Ай бұрын

    ….smash

  • @lakoneko
    @lakonekoАй бұрын

    I've been experiencing a lot of existential feelings lately, and some of this discussion was helpful in quelling some of the overwhelming anxiety for a bit

  • @Zrytun
    @ZrytunАй бұрын

    I'm so glad one of my favorite KZreadrs made a video about this usually it's an obscure KZreadr.

  • @ben-taobeneton3945
    @ben-taobeneton3945Ай бұрын

    Steins Gate is one of my first anime ever and I love it even to this day. I don't know what but everything related to the time-travel discussed in the anime was flawless! I still can't believe Steins Gate came out in 2010. It's more than a decade old but extremely profound. It's a very memorable anime. What hooked me even more was that CERN was mentioned in the anime. And I actually googled it back then and it already existed by then but not fully unitilized. I adore animes that reference real-life objects, features and people. 🙏

  • @jonttu8848

    @jonttu8848

    Ай бұрын

    Make sure to google more about ”John Titor” if you havent :) !

  • @ben-taobeneton3945

    @ben-taobeneton3945

    Ай бұрын

    @@jonttu8848 Funny, but I actually had googled him 😀

  • @jonttu8848

    @jonttu8848

    Ай бұрын

    @@ben-taobeneton3945 Awesome, its great to see that people still talk about this anime

  • @robocroakie2649
    @robocroakie2649Ай бұрын

    Banger video man.

  • @land3021
    @land3021Ай бұрын

    4:17 4:55 Apriory assumptions in philosophy... so "therefore I am" without the "I think" 5:55 "something thinks therefore I am" 6:54 Being there... 7:14 Oh damn 7:32 Ok the dub got one over the sub there 8:53 Hmm... 9:12 Hard to embody Dasein huh? 10:01 Oh I see... human beings not time haunted... 11:47 Oh, the comittee of 300 is the real secret, SERN is just CERN with an S. The comittee of 300 pops up in 13:43 13:56 Honestly, having a grandsons personality myself... I can't blame him. 14:52 Mechanisms of fate... 15:20 Interesting 15:48 Okabe is a Tsundere... wouldn't have expected that honestly, it's kinda more attributed to... female characters in anime. 15:54 FR 16:35 16:43 Yeah. Me when I confess to and use offcolor humour + delve into topics like how I've tried again and again past the point of hopelessness in places where one would be deemed stupid or unaware of what they were doing for having done so... 17:08 Oh true... 17:29 True 18:24 18:35 Yeah 19:07 19:18 20:00 Reminds me of the end theme of Chaos; Head, "A will". The science adventure series well and truly is linked and characterized by that theme of will overcoming fate I think, although that's without taking into account the many alternate endings and routes in the visual novels. I've been recently thinking about how things would go if the deep suffering of one of the protagonists were put into a villain... sorta... if I faced similarly unbelievable circumstances that made my will stronger... made my 'delusions', my imaginary world, something realizable via sheer will. "God. The title suits me well" - Shodan.

  • @Suicidal_vibes
    @Suicidal_vibesАй бұрын

    Sorry haven't seen some of your recent videos mainly because they are games I plan to play and didn't wanna have anything spoiled. But I do enjoy your content!

  • @pedrolizardo7704
    @pedrolizardo7704Ай бұрын

    thanks, a video like this was taking too long to be brought up. I think about this since i was one of the few who was astonished that martin heidegger was quoted by name in the anime.

  • @yaboi3473
    @yaboi3473Ай бұрын

    Dude how are you making these videos so frequently? The thought process and editing time..damn. all bangers

  • @kukukachu
    @kukukachuАй бұрын

    I personally believe the Legacy of Kain had an _AMAZING_ time travel, and Squenix SUCKS are time traveling.

  • @madengineerkyouma

    @madengineerkyouma

    Ай бұрын

    "Suppose you throw a coin enough times...suppose one day, it lands on its edge." Is still one of my favorite lines in fiction.

  • @kukukachu

    @kukukachu

    Ай бұрын

    @@madengineerkyouma Absolutely! So powerful.

  • @DickieDangling
    @DickieDanglingАй бұрын

    This is easily one of your best videos, Max. I don’t even say that as a Steins;Gate fan (even though I am) - I say that as a fan of your videos. I think sometimes the media you discuss takes up a bit too much of the spotlight, rather than sharing it with the philosophy you want to discuss. In this video though, Steins;Gate was just a jumping off point for what was really being covered. Really captivating stuff.

  • @maxderrat

    @maxderrat

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks mate. You rock!

  • @kohikappu
    @kohikappuАй бұрын

    The fact that they literally quoted Heidegger only for me to read his works around 4 years after watching Steins;Gate gave me an odd realization of how I could've gone this far. Anyway, great video, I have just wondered whether Steins; Gate was inspired from Kantianism but turns out I have been proven wrong and I agree that Heideggerian fits better. It's just, comes to think about it, the time that isn't like a river means that it's essentially a network with the default configuration of AC/DC.

  • @jodinsan
    @jodinsan20 күн бұрын

    Alright, *_fine,_* I'll watch Steins;Gate again.

  • @tzakman8697
    @tzakman8697Ай бұрын

    Steins;Gate is my favourite piece of fiction i am really happy YOU made a video about it.

  • @jaw0449
    @jaw0449Ай бұрын

    Heidegger is one of the most difficult thinkers to read and understand

  • @diegoxd321
    @diegoxd3217 күн бұрын

    what I love of the microwave is that micriwaves was an accidental invention and that's why athors chose to use one in an accidental time machine invention, the story has so many good scince references in a really good plot I just love it

  • @kira516
    @kira516Ай бұрын

    Great, now do the entire sciADV franchise

  • @JohnTitor2036
    @JohnTitor203611 күн бұрын

    Very good video, you earn a new sub

  • @EminAnimE1
    @EminAnimE1Ай бұрын

    Play the game. It's even better.

  • @gavinzhou3168
    @gavinzhou31689 күн бұрын

    Banger video

  • @divad7137
    @divad7137Ай бұрын

    Max, please play both Blasphemous games and make a video on the series. They have a very weird and interesting story and cosmology and it seems like the type of shit you would love.

  • @jamesthomas2410
    @jamesthomas2410Ай бұрын

    My mothers been gone 10 yrs now if i could i would try to counteract thw things leading to hwr passing

  • @thaddeushamlet
    @thaddeushamletАй бұрын

    Just discovered your channel, loving the videos so far! I would love to see a follow up video on Steins;Gate 0, if you have enough thoughts to make a video from.

  • @scirelezard6558
    @scirelezard655820 күн бұрын

    @12:59 Cinematic Masterpiece

  • @Awaken_To_0
    @Awaken_To_0Ай бұрын

    I've taken issue with the idea that death somehow makes life special or gives it meaning. If life is only special because it ends, does that mean if you knew someone and truly loved them, then does it become moral to kill them? Because if they don't die there life no longer matters? I dunno, yhat seems a bit too "Anime Villain" to me.

  • @manashieldworld

    @manashieldworld

    Ай бұрын

    I've always hated this too. Not sure how to word it but... imagining a beautiful soul lasting forever isn't any less amazing or desirable to me. Romanticizing death is so weird to me.

  • @aldeayeah

    @aldeayeah

    Ай бұрын

    It's not just death, although death is the most extreme example. What makes things matter is the existence of lasting consequences to our actions. Having things that can't be undone, i.e., the existence of a time arrow. Without that, you can just try infinite times until you get the desired result. That devalues/trivializes existence.

  • @manashieldworld

    @manashieldworld

    Ай бұрын

    @@aldeayeah But that sounds like another leap in logic. Why does it make it less valuable because it doesn't end? That sounds like the opposite of logic.

  • @jasser6470

    @jasser6470

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@manashieldworld Another way to put it is that one should love death as much as they love life. One can only be alive if one can also die. Something that lives forever has not lived.

  • @thereseemstobeenanerror1219

    @thereseemstobeenanerror1219

    Ай бұрын

    I guess this mindset comes from the idea that we know, Nothing really lasts forever. Now imagine if immortality was a thing, you would probably see this philosophy fall by the wayside.

  • @PH-ln4bt
    @PH-ln4btАй бұрын

    Watching stains gate and ergo proxy makes you seat on looking the sky on school

  • @anomitas

    @anomitas

    Ай бұрын

    Stains

  • @NeroTheBoop
    @NeroTheBoopАй бұрын

    9:27 The Talos Principle music, i see you have great taste Max

  • @justtext1150
    @justtext1150Ай бұрын

    It continues, watch Steins Gate 0, this is not the end of the story.

  • @helsreach8954
    @helsreach89547 күн бұрын

    then boom we got chaos head anti matter maic

  • @mustangvsenvy
    @mustangvsenvyАй бұрын

    The 20th century fox gag had me do a spit take... well played

  • @nicolasamorim4225
    @nicolasamorim4225Ай бұрын

    excellent video max! which steins gate is recommended to start with?

  • @Gavvin84
    @Gavvin84Ай бұрын

    From what i've seen, Time Travel as a real concept is impossible. Science Fiction and Fantasy all have different perspectives of how Time Travel works, and the characters of those shows, games, books, movies, comics, etc have learned their closed reality's rules. We, in real life, have yet to find out what those rules might be, and there is a high chance that every written work we've ever created involving it, may not align with our real reality's rules. One bit that many don't consider in terms of real, is what if one of those rules outright forbids us from messing with time? And an even tougher one to consider, swallow, and accept, what if our idea of Time itself is completely wrong? As for Determinism vs Free Will, I don't believe in either being "one or the other", I believe they work together. Our past is Determined, there's no disputing that cause we know what happened and cannot change it no matter how much we want to. Our Future however is not Determined, cause we shape that future, whether we are willing to admit it or not. And sure, when coupled together with Cause & Effect, many doubt that Free Will exists. But here's the thing, if you were able to see or calculate with 100% accuracy what you will do and what it will lead to, you CAN then manipulate Cause & Effect, change the outcomes to your liking. Determinists tried to prove that Determinism is true by making a machine that can accurately predict what a person will do. However it fell into a loop when the person decided to do the opposite of what the machine predicted, and when the machine was forced to consider that, it got stuck on just that one thing, and it ultimately had no clue in the end. All it really did prove is that the opposite is true. Our past is already known, you can't do anything to change it. Our future however is not known cause it hasn't happened yet, and if we do know, you cannot deny that we all would try to change the outcomes, but we won't know the outcome till we see it happen. And once it does happen, its too late to change it for the better or worse. Suggest not delving too deeply into the possibilities, or the possibilities we haven't considered. You'll lose yourself in an ocean of uncertainties that you cannot prove true or false.

  • @sharp7j
    @sharp7jКүн бұрын

    Max Derrant forgot dragon ball z had the most accurate time travel with multi-rivers.

  • @elrevesyelderecho
    @elrevesyelderechoАй бұрын

    16:29 when we discovered the meaning of death we understand the meaning of life.

  • @mategido
    @mategidoАй бұрын

    What a treat I love steins gate!

  • @smartsmartie7142
    @smartsmartie7142Ай бұрын

    Saw the video, immediately watched the anime, now I am back, I AM MAD SCIENTIST SUNUVABICH

  • @warlordofthewest8010

    @warlordofthewest8010

    21 күн бұрын

    El. Psy. Congroo.

  • @Forsen807
    @Forsen80713 күн бұрын

    In the latest update for Outer Wilds they make a Steins;Gate reference

  • @StillgRyPhUss
    @StillgRyPhUssАй бұрын

    signalis stalking in the distance

  • @b_e_thecreative
    @b_e_thecreativeАй бұрын

    Would love to see u breakdown Mushi-Shi. Profound anime and the only awe inspiring series I have ever seen.

  • @Sir.Endipity

    @Sir.Endipity

    Ай бұрын

    Yes please 🙇‍♂️

  • @gerardlabeouf6075
    @gerardlabeouf6075Ай бұрын

    Really unexpected twist on a steins ; gate analysis nice Nice el psy congroo

  • @onion_____
    @onion_____Ай бұрын

    Best time travel story ever

  • @Chiefahleaf
    @ChiefahleafАй бұрын

    I think one of my favorite aspects yet very horrifying. when thinking about time travel and its influence. Throughout the original series. When Okabe has to make all the changes to achieve the "perfect" timeline. He has to deal with the psychological trauma alone. When watching the ending movie. It delves into the aspect of trauma from going against fate and its struggles. He is a broken soul of a person that has PTSD by the end of the journey.

  • @DarkVeghetta
    @DarkVeghettaАй бұрын

    I enjoyed this. My only complaint is that the video isn't three times as long.

  • @WPharolin
    @WPharolinАй бұрын

    For further time travel stories I highly recommend the show Dark. No show, not even Steins;Gate (as much as I love it), even comes close to the level of depth in which this show explores the concepts of time travel (in particular time loops).

  • @Tonbizzle
    @TonbizzleАй бұрын

    18:50 Absolutely. I have the most absurd dreams only to enact the situations later in life, deja vu twice over. The moment I'm aware that I'm in the situation that I've never experienced before but have experienced before, I do everything I can (short of a crime) in order to change the situation. Sometimes it works, sometimes I become aware that this is what I did in the dream, but the will to fight is there. I might be crazy.

  • @Indi_51
    @Indi_51Ай бұрын

    YESSSSS ITS OUT!! Jesus, this ones gonna be good!

  • @Gojisan1954
    @Gojisan1954Ай бұрын

    I wonder if Godzilla Singular Point would be a suitable video for max to make? I enjoyed it and would like to hear his analysis on it, but i wonder if it qualifies for one.

  • @joshduriden519
    @joshduriden519Ай бұрын

    You should definitely play the Visual Novel the anime is based on, it goes more deeply into the story and has branching endings depending on your choices. There is also another game called Steins:Gate Zero which deals with Future Okabe.

  • @st.anselmsfire3547
    @st.anselmsfire3547Ай бұрын

    Oh, Heidegger: the ultimate "problematic" philosopher.

  • @ratfuk9340
    @ratfuk9340Ай бұрын

    Primer is a good one also. Different take on time travel but very compelling.

  • @k-ondoomer
    @k-ondoomerАй бұрын

    DO MADOKA MAGICA NEXT PLSSSS

  • @heliumdown
    @heliumdownАй бұрын

    As someone with only cursory knowledge of the German existentialist movement & even less so with the mechanics of time travel, thank you for this editorial. It’s definitely put the show in a much richer context for me, & will likely spur a rewatch in the near future. I’m not usually one for offering recommendations in unrelated youtube videos, but if you’re still looking for a manga that deals heavily in existential themes, I’d definitely recommend Land of the Lustrous. It’s a post-human tale that only deals with sci-fi elements in a hazy, almost mythic sense, so if you real want deep lore & mechanics, there are better options out there. Instead, it’s a story about the ways people struggle to connect while undergoing through life’s changes, loosely framed around the Buddhist concept of the bodhisattva. If that sounds a bit heavy, I generally summarize the story as “What if the Ship of Theseus was a person?” Yeah, it goes places. The manga's just finished, while there’s an excellent anime adaptation of the first 30-40% of the story. No idea if more will be made. Mostly I just want more intelligent people checking out & discussing it, because I feel it’s pretty rich in terms of generating conversation.

  • @helsreach8954
    @helsreach89547 күн бұрын

    wow i love the applying philosophy in to the science adventure series. can you do one for every VN in the series 🥺🥺🥺

  • @Levi-bg1sc
    @Levi-bg1scАй бұрын

    Hm the ending of stein gates ha similarities with souls reaver 2: Kain There’s a third option - a monumental secret, hidden in your very presence here. But it’s a secret you have to discover for yourself. Unearth your destiny, Raziel. It’s all laid out for you here. Raziel You said it yourself, Kain - there are only two sides to your coin. Kain Apparently so. But suppose you throw a coin enough times... ...suppose one day, it lands on its edge.

  • @goldentrout4811
    @goldentrout4811Ай бұрын

    now this is a substance video

  • @CalebMorea
    @CalebMoreaАй бұрын

    The visual novel is even more fleshed out in its time travel theory

  • @elrevesyelderecho
    @elrevesyelderechoАй бұрын

    16:55 so, Tom Cruise's movie The Edge of Tomorrow fits on this

  • @azazel6342
    @azazel634227 күн бұрын

    Was reccomended this anime by someone, right before they self_deleted. She left quite the hole in my existence, and every crumb she left behind of herself, endlessly maddening. The anime helped, still hurt like hell.

  • @TheWolfgangGrimmer
    @TheWolfgangGrimmer25 күн бұрын

    The anime ending and the True Ending of the VN(it has six different ones) are essentially identical by the way.

  • @jole5468
    @jole546811 күн бұрын

    the fact that the timelines outside of the steins;gate timeline all have fate being interupted by people and organizations with the power to change fate makes the only timeline where okabe should accept fate be the steins;gate timeline as that is the only truly authentic timeline. as soon as okabe becomes aware of the ability to influence the timeline, the choice to not try to reach the timeline where that option no longer exists is an active rebellion against dasein. (IMO)

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