Max, around 18:11 you state that the goal would be to repress the negative traits into unconsciousness. To me, this sounds either like a not-too-cautious simplification or like a downright error. As to my understanding, the idea is to integrate all the existing tendencies, giving them their proper space and time. Those that could have previously been marked as negative and thus kept hidden from consciousness transform into a personal tool. For example, an individualized woman might manifest violence in certain critical situations, while avoiding it in most others.

@maxderrat

2 жыл бұрын

This is a good point. It would have been more accurate for me to say "bring the negative traits under one's control so that they might as well be rendered unconscious". Thank you for pointing this out.

@boris_ev

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxderrat My pleasure, thanks for the video!

@Proctor_Conley

2 жыл бұрын

Carl Youngs' view of human psychology was infamously clouded by his worldview & preconceived notions. His ideas can be self-destructive but, with a greater understanding of the issues, can have a positive effect on the self & others.

@CynicalBastard

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxderrat "Repression" is "gaining a lot of fans", but that isn't taking into account the much more important aspect of 'disavowal'. Freud was almost "there", as it were, he was considering this as a replacement for "repression" in his overall schema, before he kicked the bucket.

@gido9467

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-zp8kj2cl9g People are allowed to make mistakes. We grow when others point them out (kindly, we hope) and we are willing to consider the criticism calmly, being open to the possibility that we were wrong. This content creator seems to be capable of doing so.

Xenogears is literally my first encounter with existential dread.

@robokou

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@robokou

Жыл бұрын

@@EmeraldaKasim ???

@robokou

Жыл бұрын

@deaderall , I was laughing _with_ him, not at him. _Xenogears_ is one helluva trip of a game.

@No-onesgayformoleman

Жыл бұрын

@@robokou The other guy needs to chill, I could tell right off the bat you were just being friendly.

Appreciate the shout out to Resonant Arc. Nothing beat reading your announcement about this vid while they were finishing up their series on this game

Absolutely blown away by your dedication and thoroughness; it's great to see your take and thoughts on this game. I truly hope we see more from you covering Xenogears and Xenosaga alike!

@CycloneFox

2 жыл бұрын

I hope that every fan of Xenogears eventually reaches Xenosaga Episode III and realizes that it’s actually not just a prequel to Xenogears.

@chrislennon460

2 жыл бұрын

Not even connected to xenogears at all.

@WarblingMarbles

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrislennon460 Spirital successor, which is as much of a connection as any of the Xeno games have to each other. You seem to have misread my comment as meaning they're something you go from in a sequence. I meant more so the overall themes and concepts that both share and build off of.

@chrislennon460

2 жыл бұрын

@@WarblingMarbles not your comment I was replying to.

@WarblingMarbles

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrislennon460 Oh, my bad! There was no @ attached to it so I didn't realize.

Only a true masterpiece, regardless of the medium, lives you with emptiness like Xenogears does when you finish it. Thank you for shedding light on it. It warms my heart.

I didn't even know you were working on this project, but this is THE place I wanna hear it discussed! I was basically a kid when I played that game, but it blew every one of my friends away after playing it. We obviously didn't understand everything that was going on, but it still left a huge impact on us. Truly hope to see more discussion on this in the future.

I am always impressed how Japanese look into other religions like Christianity and decided to make a video game based off some of the themes in their own way.

@robokou

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, Xenogears was a major component in what served to put me on the path of becoming a Christian. 💯

@zekiel2533

2 жыл бұрын

... It's not Christianity. It's counterfeiting real Christianity( Those who just follow the Bible teachings and nothing more) and creating a different narrative. A different gospel. And the comments about square not making xemogears a FF game because it would be too dark are true. Because those religions mentioned in this video that try to relate themselves to Christianity are very deceitful in how they tell you there existence

@trappercap

2 жыл бұрын

@@zekiel2533 actually based. Gnosticism isn’t Christianity at all by sheer virtue of removing Christ from the equation. It’s yet another works-based-salvation faith. The early Church shunned it when it arose.

@robokou

2 жыл бұрын

@@trappercap, with all due respect, neither you nor @Zekiel know what either Gnosticism or Christianity is. Gnosticism refers to a certain school of thought that most scholars agree began with Christianity. That said, Gnosticism isn't necessarily Christianity, but Christianity is indeed Gnosticism. 💯

@harunocaleon5786

2 жыл бұрын

It's gnosticism, not christianity.

Retrograde Amnesia(aptly named) also did a podcast analyzing Xenogears on a very granular level with hyper scrutiny, a while before Resonant Arc tackled it. Similarly it is also deep and lengthy(pun intended hehe). They were also featured on the Resonant Arc podcast too giving further supplemental insights, and both of them questioned whether or not they did Xenogears justice or if such a feat is even possible. Xenogears is one of those games where calling it a video game, almost seems criminal and at the very least, severely undervalues what it may "actually be". I feel the same way about FF9 and a few others, to me they go beyond formative experiences or art. Truly something special...apologies for the nerd out. And yes there are quite a lot of FF7 references and easter eggs scattered throughout the Xenogears world, same with FF7 if you know where to look and what to look for. Pretty neat stuff Anyhoo, thanks so much for taking a shot at Xenogears Max! I hope youll enjoy it as much as many of us do, should you make more content on it. We'll always look forward to it, thank you again

I must agree with you Max, when you say that Xenogears was probably the most ambitious game ever made; Xenosaga did a decent job of getting the ideas of Xenogears to synergize, but even a three-game series like that wasn't enough (Xenosaga originally being planned to consist of six games!).

@talonjansen8926

2 жыл бұрын

The point I am getting at is that Japanese literature usually takes the form of videogames; the ideas you would normally see in serials and novels in Japan are often contained in videogames.

@mythosinfinite6736

2 жыл бұрын

Thankfully with Xenoblade 1 linking with 2, and 2 linking with -saga, it allows for the trilogy to become an ongoing series of 5 (approaching 6) games. The ideas of Xenogears and the ambitions it could never realize are slowly, gradually, approaching the ideal of what -gears was meant to be.

@No-onesgayformoleman

Жыл бұрын

@@mythosinfinite6736 I haven't played Xenosaga yet, I was about to start it as I finished -gears. I've beaten Xenoblade 2 though, so without spoiling saga, how does it connect exactly? It's not just because KOS-MOS makes a Cameo as a blade right?

Xenogears blew my mind at 14. It was the most engrossing, enthralling, and smartest thing Id ever experienced and still get tingly feelings when I remember it. And that ending Titanic ish song was great! This video makes me want to re experience it all. An absolute titan of a game but moreso the writing.

@robokou

Жыл бұрын

👍🏿💯

@AlexBowesVideos

Жыл бұрын

Actually, the song you mention Small Two of Pieces was recorded in 1996, according to a fellow Xenogears fan. The movie Titanic came out in 1997, a year after Mitsuda even knew of that song. So it’s not Titanicish, Titanic wasn’t even around!

@robokou

Жыл бұрын

@Bowesie Boy , you somehow just made this game even more special for me. 😭🧡

@AlexBowesVideos

Жыл бұрын

@@robokou Yeah! Titanic copied Small Two of Pieces! 😂

@daoyang223

Жыл бұрын

Joanne Hogg is in a league of her own and in 2018 even reprised as the main vocalist for the 20 year anniversary concert for Xenogears alongside Yasunori Mitsuda.

I have played this game many times and watched countless hours of discussions about it, and you've made the best Xenogears synopsis and general analysis ever.

It also says a lot that of all the "Kill God" trope RPGs, Xenogears and the series are the ones I always thinks of.

@fattiger6957

2 жыл бұрын

And that's carried on to this day with Monolithsoft's work. I mean, just listen to Shulk's speech in the final battle of the first Xenoblade. Takahashi and his wife really like the trope of killing god to create your own destiny.

@ChazTheYouthful

2 жыл бұрын

Hey don't forget Saga 1(Final Fantasy Legend). They pulled that theme out in 1989.

@hotman718

Жыл бұрын

Deus wasn't actually God though. More of a manmade science experiment. The wave existence is the closest thing to God in Xenogears

This is my favorite game of all time, thanks for doing a video on it. So heavy and dense with references and allusions, it’s definitely right up the alley of topics you usually cover. FYI, there’s a podcast called Retrograde Amnesia that covers this game in season 1 of their show (about 40 1hr episodes). The Retrograde guys appear on Reaonant Arc in a few episodes.

@_eseru_

2 жыл бұрын

Oh! Thanks for this comment! I'll definitely listen to this podcast. ^^

Xenogears is to gaming what Neon Genesis Evangelion is to anime.

@nemosotillo

2 жыл бұрын

They have been compared a lot before

I loved this game; I'll always love this game.

My favorite RPG of all time! This game had a major impact on my childhood! Thank you for this!

Very thorough and clear analysis. You categorize and label concepts well without losing track like many others do. especially with this game as the content is massive

Lol, wow... this seems long overdue-at least in my opinion. 😂💯 It just feels like a video about the story of Xenogears would've been among Max Derrat's very first, given how perfectly it fits the overall content of his channel.

@thefgcsensei4482

2 жыл бұрын

Same,I've been pestering Max for years in his comment section for his insight on the game. glad he got to it!

@janrea3102

2 жыл бұрын

Growing, evolving, and sharing new knowledge. That's what I like about his channel.

@thefgcsensei4482

2 жыл бұрын

@@janrea3102 I dig this part, and he hasn't gotten into the finer Alchemical, jungian,Nietzschian and freudian themes. thats gonna be a blast, this game was basicly tailor-made for his taste

Welcome to the Xeno community Max. You've just barely scratched the surface of Takahashi's madness and brilliance.

@islandboy9381

2 жыл бұрын

Takahasi and his wife Soria Saga, she was also integral to the writing of Xenogears

@Izzak_Beck

2 жыл бұрын

@@islandboy9381 this is fair, it's a shame she isn't as involved in the more recent entries in the overarching franchise.

@WheatDos

2 жыл бұрын

@@Izzak_Beck Her name is Soria SAGA and one of the entries is XenoSAGA... Coincidence? I THINK NOT!!! (seriously now, it's a interesting coincidence).

@akoo369

10 ай бұрын

where does this community meet?

@Sherkel

8 ай бұрын

@@akoo369 /v/ and this site.

This game is a true Gem amongst Gems, one of my all time personal favorites, I still got the strategy guide and game tucked away in a moisture proof container. Great synopsis of a legendary game!

@akoo369

10 ай бұрын

i feel like this is how this game was delivered...found in some ancient sealed time capsule and repackaged for the market...

20:26 What ALL Xenogear fans came here for. The crucifixion of our lord and savior Chu-Chu.

@maxderrat

2 жыл бұрын

Peace be upon him.

@robokou

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxderrat *her I'm pretty sure Chu-Chu identified as female, lol.

The greatest story of any video game of all time. Great video. I haven't played it in 25 years but I still remember it like it was yesterday

Excellent synopsis and I cant wait to see more coverage of Xenogears

Loved this video, watched it as soon as I saw it pop up, please do more on xenogears!!! Great job!

I remember playing this game on high school and how his story blow my mind.

@TheFos88

2 жыл бұрын

Dude I want to play a game on my school

Xenogears as far as I'm concerned is THE final boss of videogames, the kind of experience that leaves a huge gaping hole in your heart when you finish it and truly understand it. Honestly, once you, at the minimum, have played Xenogears, Nier, Deus Ex, MGS and maybe a Zero Escape game you've pretty much seen it all, when it comes to deeper, more ambitious/twisty narratives in games, everything else is more or less just a variation. And it's kind of sad because that's not a very long list of essentials. Xenogears is far from my favourite game ever (ironically, Xenoblade 1 is easily top 3 but for very different reasons) but it absolutely towers above everything else as a ridiculous, tremedous achievement in terms of thematic depth in a medium where you're just supposed to push buttons to punch bad guys in the face and ask questions later. No other game tells a tale of such epic proportions and huge personal growth. There's just nothing quite like it. Try as I might I never found anything of similar magnitude condensed into one single game. Nothing surprises me, nothing excites me anymore, especially after the aforementioned list of games. And gameplay isn't something that can elicit a profound emotional response from me, ever, I'm all about story, always have been. It's a painful realization that I'm an old, jaded gamer and I simply ran out of sources of depth and profoundness inside my favourite medium. Video games can still be "fun" for me of course but those kinds of "fun" are very different. Books and movies are of course out there, but it's just not the same experience. No one is taking risks with games like Xenogears these days and it sucks. Even the creator of Xenogears himself went down the despicable waifu road in his more recent creations. Anyway, glad that this game is getting more exposure especially with that DOPE AS HELL analysis from Resonant Arc guys which I can't recommend enough for anyone who's interested in Xenogears. And sorry for being such a downer in my post lol. I just needed to vent really badly.

@000585677

2 жыл бұрын

I feel you, here's my suggestion in case you haven't played this game: To the Moon (made me ugly cry, also very short).

@DarkSol13

2 жыл бұрын

Played it, loved it. Kan Gao's games are super legit =)

@Vodoriga

2 жыл бұрын

I'd add Persona 2 and maybe silent hill 2 in that list of yours.

@Anthony-un4yz

2 жыл бұрын

The Legacy of Kain series should be on this list as well!

@ChaMok

2 жыл бұрын

Agree that everything is a sort of variant. I'd still passionately suggest FF 14.

Finally! It's here! I am so glad you made this one Max. I've been suggesting it for years now lol. I'll watch it after I get some shit done.

Excellent work! Such a deep and well done analysis, I'm really looking foward for more videos about Xenogears!

The idea of Adam Kadmon reminds me of the giant Ymir from Norse Mythology.

@ShinryuZensen

2 ай бұрын

Well, there's a theory that all religion are actually the same one , just adapted to their respective society. It's symbolism after all.

My all-time favorite video game. Love seeing people make content about it still to this day.

A childhood favorite that took on more meaning with my adult conversion to Catholicism. Excited to see this. Billy Lee Black was my favorite character.

Such a concise explanation of central elements you've had so relatively little time to digest. I so hope there will be more videos, Xenogears is a game that keeps giving and its the perfect match for this channel.

I'm SO glad you finally did this! Xenogears is one of my favourite games ever and your video served a a great primer. I look forward to seeing more in depth analysis from you!

Always down for more Xeno- absolutely my favorite series.

Yes more vidoes about Xenogears!! It's an amazing piece of work that deserves more attention!!

Loved your analysis of this! You made a very complicated story easy to understand. Looking forward to potential additional videos in this series

God I wish they finished Xenogears...and I wish there was some sort of HD remaster. This game is the epitome of JRPGs, along with: - Persona 4/5 - Final Fantasy X - The Legend of Dragoon - Parasite Eve

@hekonaleeinos5510

2 жыл бұрын

Interestingly enough, both Parasite Eve and Xenogears happen to draw from the same "creative stew" that was the conception of Final Fantasy 7. Some major ideas and concepts from both games are essentially re-purposed elements of FF7 prototypes that didn't make the cut.

@harunocaleon5786

2 жыл бұрын

It's hard. The game would receive a blackash.

Ok, out of all the xenogears videos I've watched, you give the the best synopsis. This is something I can show my friends to entrance them a bit.

Please do more videos on Xenogears! This was an excellent analysis of one of my favorite games! You never fail to impress, thank you, Max!

Glad you finaly got around to it in any form and am grateful that you have given us your insight on it, especially after my own and several other fans of yours kept pestering you about it for years!

Oh Lord, it only has 20k views so far. I need more Xenogears videos from you Max, you are just the most profound and methodical analyst in the video game, media and pop culture industry. Your videos have helped me to overcome a horrible existential crysis, so thank you and please keep them coming.

Having bought and played Xenogears (and still have the original game and stratagy guide!) when it first came out, it will always be one of my favorites. I've been into mecha and gunpla most of my life as well, and it wasn't until very recently that the Gears were made into kits! The mecha designers work(ed) on many Gundam series, so the similarities aren't surprising in my interests. It's a shame that Tetsuya Takahashi, the creator of Xenogears and the entire Xeno game series that is akin to Final Fantasy doesn't get enough credit like we give to Yoko Taro and Hideo Kojima. Please do more on this. It was over 20 years ago that I played and the game is so massive that even once I finished it... I was never 100% sure what was going on, only that it was awesome.

Thank you so much for this video. I'm playing through it again now as an adult and just seeing this synopsis has already opened my eyes up to things I hadn't even considered!

Thank you so much for this video! I have been a huge fan of this game for many years and have played through it multiple times, yet your exceptional analysis revealed information and concepts that were still foreign to me. I appreciate you taking the time to do this and look forward to more videos from you.

The greatest game of all time for all eternity. Full stop.

Love your channel. Xenogears goes deeper than any other game. Period. I’d love a series on this game

Perfect works for the assist max love your videos hope this blows up so you make more

This was a pleasant surprise I hope you can continue!

I will always always always give love, likes and watches to anyone who gives this game publicity. So here it is. It deserves a remaster along the lines of FF7. Thank you.

@dragongamer4753

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly it probably wont happen since the director tetsua takahashi started monolithsoft and works for nintendo now. On the bright side the xenoblade series continues these themes and are just as ambitious espically in their worldbuilding.

@Dionaea_floridensis

2 жыл бұрын

@@dragongamer4753 Though I had my issues with X and 2, I still think they were great games and I think Tetsuya Takahashi still has lots of great stories to tell

@docblade3270

2 жыл бұрын

Hope not, at lest with the story adaptation, i played the original FF7 many time and have no idea of what is happening in the story of the new version, and Xenogears is really complex in its original version, so, when they try to "adapt it to modern audiences" probably will deform everything!

@fattiger6957

2 жыл бұрын

@@dragongamer4753 The only way I would accept a Xenogears remake is if Square got the cooperation of Tetsuya Takahasi, Soraya Saga and MonolithSoft. That way, they could completely realize Xenogears in the way it was originally intended. I don't think it's completely out of the question. Square and Nintendo seem to like working together, so I don't see an issue with the game being a Nintendo-exclusive (probably on a future system)

@jaygarcia6388

2 жыл бұрын

not gonna happen lol...

Oh I remember when this first came out, I bought it played for 20 hours and didn’t touch it for 6 years. Oddly enough it was those 6 years in I grew and matured in which made me enjoy it more so than I ever would have as a senior in high school when it first came out. Resonant Arc is a great podcast great to see them get a shoutout. 🖖🗽

Amazing! Very concise and yet complete analysis, it sums up why I love this game so much and it's still my favorite story of any type of existing media. Thanks for the video :)

Your content is amazing as always, hopefully we will see more.

Whoa, very deep. I thought I understood the story when I first played it, but you shined some light on details I missed. Also, good analysis. As a Xenogears fan, a Christian, and someone who studied Kabbalah; I have to say this video was on point.

Whole analysis and linking Jungian references in a nutshell is just super cool man. I know your main focus is perusing video games, but I'd like hear your thoughts on 'Ergo Proxy' sometime.

Another wonderful video! I hope to see more on this series in the future :)

I LOVE Xenogears! Glad you made this analysis, would love to see more.

Xenosaga, arguably, even more ambitious but more complete experience.

@chrislennon460

2 жыл бұрын

Cliff hanger ending is hardly more complete. Sure they cut gameplay from gears, but the main story is at least complete unlike saga.

@blaire4115

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrislennon460 Why, main plot of the trilogy is pretty much complete by the end of Xenosaga 3. I'm aware of many changes, compromises, canceled games and all that, but that still beat infamous Xenogears Disc 2.

@chrislennon460

2 жыл бұрын

@@blaire4115 xenosaga has a ton of loose ends. Go play it again, you don't seem to remember. Xenogears wraps up all the main plot points by the end, the only cut content was gameplay and side characters story. You don't see what happened to like the Kaiser of Kislev or Yui, but who cares in the grand scheme of things, they weren't integral to any of the main plot. The ending of xenosaga leaves so much unfinished in the main story.

@blaire4115

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrislennon460 While story was rushed somewhat in Ep 3, you certainly can't blame it of being inconclusive. The main arcs are resolved, and all of the characters receive some degree of closure.

Morrowind. granted, they were forced to scale it down a lot, but is still a PHENOMENAL game.

@maxderrat

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, good call!

@silent_stalker3687

2 жыл бұрын

I know :( I wish they didn’t have to scale down the map…

@blackdragon5478

2 жыл бұрын

You might wanna check XenoSaga. Thier kinda intertwined.

@Spacefrisian

2 жыл бұрын

I tried Morrowind, but didnt like it. I think Summoner of the same time is the better game.

@512TheWolf512

2 жыл бұрын

@@Spacefrisian yes it's not for everyone. Typical CoD fanboy definitely wouldn't enjoy it

I'm completely hooked. I even learned a few things myself. Please do more!

Great video Max I think it’s one of my top 3 favorites that you’ve done

YES! PLEASE MORE XENOGEARS

Xenogears is absolutely one of the most overlooked JRPG’s in history. Please do more! This game deserves so much more then what it was received or given.

First video of yours I have seen. Great work mate.

Amazing video! I hope we see more on this going through the whole game. Great work 😀

Great synopsis. But when's the next video?

Yet again, you've introduce me to yet another gem of a game that I have yet to play, Max, besides psychonauts and siren. Thanks for giving us something to reflect on and for some, reminisce. By the way, you mentioned something about the jung shadow in another video of yours in that it includes positive and not just dark, negative traits that are repressed. Could you elaborate on what those positive traits of the Shadow are or could be, Max? Once more, I can't thank you enough for your community and your passion for gaming, gaming analysis, your interest in psychology and the links to the traditions of gnosticism, christianity, hindu and bhuddist tradition, etc. I hope you had a warm, good Christmas

Wow, you absolutely nailed this video! Looking forward to more Xenogears videos from your channel…subbed.

I want more! I've heard of xenogears but never played or seen much of it. Your games analysis videos are always so on point and in depth, this game seems like imperfect fit!

this just backs up my query "why do Japanese creators know western esotericism better than most westerners", terms such as Zohar, Evangelion, Archon, gnosis, all the Jungian archetypes. On reddit four-casette says there was a fascination of Jewish culture in japan in the 80's which would explain their familiarity with these terms. the contraction of God that Max mentions is called Tzimtzum ("contraction")

@fattiger6957

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't matter where they are from. I'm sure the creators (Takahashi and Saga) did a lot of research. Western writers also could have done the same research and applied it to their work if they wanted. Passion and due diligence are universal aspects of great creators.

@crozraven

2 жыл бұрын

In the 80s & 90s, religious paths & occultism or theology stuffs were a very popular topic to read/discuss in Japan. This is why you would find many of Japanese series/works during that time filled with religious iconography & themes. Not just games, but also manga, anime, novel, movies, etc (even freaking hentai LOL). This trend would continue on in early 2000s (just watch anime & manga of those period to know what I mean).

@roseopheliashepherd8379

2 жыл бұрын

All you guys gave great answers, like everything there is multiple possible truths, it doesnt invalidate objectifity, it just expands the notion that anything humans have created will have been shaped by their worldview and reflect their flaws. Ive been studying esotericism since maxs video on alchemy x

I love this Game and it profoundly impacted me. I remember getting done with FF7 my freshmen year of college and was looking for other in depth J RPG’s when I stumbled across Xenogears. I have never been so enthralled and felt so accomplished when the final scene played. I think I legit cried at feeling like I had come through an emotional journey I never expected. The Freudian references were a little on point but made me laugh as it fell inline with my psych classes at the time 🤣

@EmeraldaKasim

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I’m 19, beat it a few days ago. One of the best experiences ever

Thank you Max for making this awesome video! Xenogears has always been one of my favourite games since its release!

Astonishing work you done here

i played this masterpiece when i was in college. bought it at a monday afternoon started it the same night and at friday night of the same week my save file was 64 hours while going to school and attending classes and doing daily things like eating etc.. 4 days 64 hours i was that much addicted to it.. good old golden times of jrpg.

It's a repetitive thing to say but Xenogears would really be impossible to make in modern age, all of its philosophical, and psychological themes would be called pretentious by an endless wave of naysayers, its religious symbolism and concepts called edgy by those who are dismissive of art or easily offended, it's approach to romance and sexuality would be controversial and censored, its sci-fi inspirations from books and old anime would get it labelled as a rip-off and the tropes the story has (such as killing a god and uncovering the secrets of a manipulative religion) would be interpreted as a cliche amongst an sea of RPGS despite being the first one to dare make such a story. It truly is an unrepeatable treasure.

@Kintsugi23

Жыл бұрын

Lightning in a bottle

This is such a thorough analysis... I see where there's a lot of connections to Xenosaga as well. I'd love to see more of this.

@yia01

2 жыл бұрын

yea, xeno saga was suppose to cover teh time period after humanity colonize the milky way and lose teh zohar, then got attack by the gnosis and rediscover teh zohar, then weaponize teh zohar into dues to teh defeat of deus and end where the transport ship eldris crash into that lone planet.

22:46 I just like to note that, it's not just that they didn't have time to finish the game, personnel were pulled from the Xenogears development because Square prioritized the Development of Final Fantasy 7, which was being developed at the same time.

One of the best games i've ever played! The first CD is almost perfect! Sadly... The second part looks incomplete in some sense. But the story, ost, and ambientantion are truly magnificent! Nice work! Also: Deus is the portuguese/latin word for God.

@ohamatchhams

2 жыл бұрын

Deus has etymological root of PIE root of Dyaus, usually associated with Sky father deities, one of subjects by "Gnostic" groups and religions to be among the ranks and types of Archons and Demiurge(s), all while Xenogears used sporadically of parts of interpretations of Sethians and Valentinians of Demiurges as either evil to malfunctionally flawed

I finished this game last night during the wait for XC3 and I never thought I'd say this but it truly does live up to it's legacy and all this buzz around how ambitious and how much of a masterpiece it is. Xenogears is genuinely beyond just a video game. It's really a journey that makes you question, learn and develop. Not to mention that it's also just a genuinely fun game with great gameplay.

Just been thinking about this game lately, like a lot, again. SO seeing you looking into it is really something VERY appreciated.

Very interesting! Thank you Max. =)

That's the problems with lore heavy games like that. They give you a lot of information, but they do a very poor job at connecting, unfolding and presenting this information.

@dugtrioramen

2 жыл бұрын

I think xenogears did it really well in its grand reveals, but throughout the rest of the game was pretty confusing and sloppy (like all the gazel scenes and also when talking about nation history and stuff)

My favorite game. So epic. Nothing can compare. I remember after beating it the first time, and then at the end of the credits it says "Xenogears episode 5"... I was so excited for all the prequels, but unfortunately that never happened, just another example of how ambitious this was, the fact that after 60 hours it was still "incomplete" with a rushed disc 2, but the entire game was really only 1 5th of the what it was meant to be...

16:57 Don't forget that the "reunion" is a central concept in FF7, and Jenova is another term related to the kabbalah.

Ofc we need mooooreeeee! Awesome vid!

Virtually the Evangelion of video games. On purpose.

5:37 that looks like the Aegis Crystal from Xenoblade 2

@spardadante6295

2 жыл бұрын

Because it originates here. In Xenogears and the spiritual prequel to xenogears. Xenosaga.

I learned SO much from this video about my all time favorite game! Thank you!

This video deserves much, much more likes. The task of summarizing this game in the most concise manner is near impossible !

Bro, I assume, you are probably not into visual novels, but if you will ever decide to play one, make it Umineko and please, do an analysis of it.

You should play the Yakuza games. They have a phenomenal story. Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen has a really philosophical ending, something close in intensity to the most profound moment in games that you presented on you channel. And is also inspired by Berserk. Anyway.. Thank you for the amazing work!!

@TheFos88

2 жыл бұрын

Experienced that finale years ago and it never left me. That is a wild wild story no lie.

@mihaipisica0785

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheFos88 It truly was an astounding experience and memorable.. nothing I have seen before in the game prepared me for it, even though the supposed „final boss” was also amazing, the true ending was like.. „Going all in”. It was perfect. Ending everything on a high note. No bullshit, just a fantastic conclusion to an weird, unique and phenomenal game. One of the GOATS in gaming history. Glad to see more people felt the.. I could say „power” of that ending, but maybe „truth” is a better word for it.

@TheFos88

2 жыл бұрын

@@mihaipisica0785 hell yes! Really hope to see a well made sequel at some point. Honestly though, I also feel like it stands on its own and maybe it's better for it. Kind of like Breaking Bad ending after just 5 seasons was perfect for it and anymore wouldn't have held the same impact.

Thank you so much for playing it and doing this video.

thanks for covering xenogears! the game really confused me so much as a kid but it's still one of my favourite games ever

I've been gaming since that late 80s and Xenogears is still one of best games I've ever played. I wish more people could experience it.

I would love a remake of this game especially because of the 2nd half. It's such a rich masterpiece that never had it's chance to shine under the shadow of FF7

Fantastic video!Anything Xenogears related is absolutely welcome!

Another great video. ❤️

SPOILERS: i wish we could have seen Deus as being similar to Fei. I always read that single line from Deus "you shall be as gods" to be a socially awkward invitation from the newly birthed consciousness of Deus. we know in the end that a fully assembled Deus is capable of some kind of transmigration and this made me see Deus as similar to Frankenstein's creature in that both are artifical beings rejected by their creators. This of course ties in with the way in which Fei is exiled from his town as a result of his own misunderstood powers. I talked about it in my analysis, but i dont produce enough to appease the lords of the algorithm.

Xenogears > Xenosaga > Xenoblade. I was so disappointed when they decided to go with the Xenoblade weeb route. It is too bad when they decided to "reboot" Xenogears to the Xenosaga and Xenoblade. Xenosaga was ok but I never felt any emotion playing Xenoblade. Just felt like a super weeb game.

@oracle222

2 жыл бұрын

Xenoblade may look 'weeb' but they're almost as deep as the other Xeno games, especially 2.

@oracle222

2 жыл бұрын

Also this is coming from someone who loved Gears and the Blade games, but never played Saga

@crowstakingoff

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't watch the video, but would like to ask: are all these series connected? Or they just share the xeno part

@oracle222

2 жыл бұрын

@@crowstakingoff they have similar motifs, objects, character tropes, and plot elements but they are wholly unrelated to each other. Think of them as parallel universes of each other. Even all three Xenoblade games aren't really connected to each other

Great work 👏, one of my favorite games of all time, can't wait to see if you upload more xenogears videos thanks again for the work

Amazing. Appreciate your explanation video man - much respect