i feel like people make negative views about starfield for attention and alot of views

@ylmlighting

Ай бұрын

Bingo

@user-xi2om4hf1c

Ай бұрын

5:55

It's crazy how much hate the game has gotten and continues to get. People despise this game and it is not deserved. The DLC is gonna be great

You understand.

This was SUCH a breath of fresh air to listen to someone clearly articulate the things that make this game good. You weren't embellishing anything, or twisting your experience to support your opinion, just giving an open and honest account of your experience. You also effortlessly used many other titles as comparisons in specific ways to support your experiences so that you weren't just giving your viewers your opinion with nothing to back it up. Very well done. Thank you. Liked and subbed!

@Tenebrous227

4 ай бұрын

Hello, I'm subbed to you lol. Immediately recognized your name

@nully304

3 ай бұрын

starfield haters go baah baah

You've described the Bethesda formula with unusual clarity. It's not that Bethesda really masters one thing but that they weave together so many good-enough gameplay elements in ways that feel natural and part of a cohesive world. I've been making and using Skyrim mods for years and keep thinking up new things; but why? Because Skyrim has such a broad foundation, that virtually any vision could be realized. How would you mod Baldur's Gate 3 or dedicated space sims? It probably doesn't occur to you, not because those games are perfect, but because they are so focused on mastering one thing: there's no point adding to something so meticulously crafted or building new systems from the ground up in a game that wasn't built for them. Just like Skyrim, the breadth of systems and mechanics in Starfield cover so many foundations and while doing many things well still leave plenty of room for improvement that we'll likely see some astounding mods coming to the game and from a wide variety of visions.

@skyriminspace

8 ай бұрын

Exciting to see what Starfield will become.

@mariomario-dy1kc

7 ай бұрын

Uuuh, there are plenty of mods for BG3, the main difference is, it doesn't need them

@broark88

7 ай бұрын

@@mariomario-dy1kc Whether a game "needs" mods is subjective, but I was thinking more along the lines of the Moonpath, Legacy, and Vigilant mods to Skyrim that add whole new world maps, characters, questlines, items, mechanics and so forth. It's an endless modders playground because of its breadth and technical modularity. Most games including BG3 get plenty of tweak, cheat, and cosmetic mods but general mod-ability is limited.

@skyriminspace

7 ай бұрын

@@broark88 i played skyrim SE modded on ps4. Added so much new stuff even with that platform's limitations. Mainly locations & facelifts to existing ones. Switched to pc for starfield. Mods will be insane....

@mariomario-dy1kc

7 ай бұрын

@@broark88 Oh.. So basically taking the fact bg3 is a game based on dnd 5e and making a custom campaign in 5e? I mean, i don't see a point BECAUSE 5e already exists and there already are online tools to make campaigns, but I don't see why modders wouldn't be able to do that in bg3.

Been playing since launch with no intentions of stopping. The more people hate on it the more I want to play. The hate comments have been unrealistic & absurd

I’m addicted to SF. I see people saying the most absurd things about the game that seem like copy and paste comments.

@OnIoN4UrTrUbLeS

8 ай бұрын

Just to be clear what did they say?

@skyriminspace

8 ай бұрын

​@@OnIoN4UrTrUbLeS"there's nothing to do" is a good one.

@MaticTheProto

8 ай бұрын

Sem like copy paste? Or maybe the game just has some huge issues?

@brandonmcgrew4367

7 ай бұрын

Lol I said the same thing, I’m incredibly addicted to this game. It’s literally all I look forward to after clocking out from work. I’ll admit I haven’t gone out with friends for almost 2 weeks now, just working and playing this game. It’s honestly refreshing, I’m hardly ever home usually and spending time at the house after work while playing this game has been some of the most fun I’ve had in a while👍

@brandonmcgrew4367

7 ай бұрын

@@MaticTheProtoit’s procedural generation, meaning it’s generating maps on planets randomly from dungeons all the way to fauna and Flora. The issue is they didn’t make what the generator had to go with that vast, so it’s generates 1 of like 6 outposts that could spawn. So we constantly see the same outposts and such. I’m sure Bethesda will add more stuff that can generate like new outposts eventually, but if they had added like 15 types of outposts; it would’ve been a more broad variety of outposts and stuff that we get on planets. I hope you know what I’m saying it’s hard to explain over texting, I’m much better at speaking in person😂

I love this game. I am a truck driver because I love to find all of the beautiful quiet spots in the world. I used to make space ship parts as a machinist. I left a high salary career to drive trucks all day because I saw the grand canyon once. I realized I wanted to see all those things. My wife came in when I was absorbed in this battle with these amored space crickets with teeth and said ohhhhhh space trucker. I laughed and said yeah. I say this honestly, but this is my favorite game since I played Halo the first time.

@RandomWandrer

8 ай бұрын

Exactly. One of the best vacations I ever had was driving around the southwest just looking at breathtaking landscape. Better than any activity based vacations where every moment is in an itinerary. I also love starfield. And as an engineer I see the work Bethesda put in, and the passion. This game is anything but lazy! I appreciate it

@iammac5813

8 ай бұрын

You should try outer wilds . It's a phenomenal game specially for people like you who love discovery

@justinjackson2588

8 ай бұрын

@iammac5813 I loved it and was bummed when it ended. It was on game pass and I consumed it quickly. So quickly.

@justinjackson2588

8 ай бұрын

@RandomWandrer For sure. I got the new atlantis bug recently. Where a huge skin that comprises the base of the mast and surrounding buildings was behind me in space. Hilarious. The other day vasco was patroling around my ship and I jet packed over him into the cargo hold and he just left the map. He slung around some point at his foot through the ground and then down forever. Probably. Hilarious. I hope they do a little tweaking to the game. I would love to save and scrap parts from cool ships I steal and make a frankenship when I have the requisite parts. Like a chop shop on the key. I loved wacky wasteland in the fallout games. Something like that you can toggle on or off in universe six or whatever would be neat I think. I think the mods will be nuts when they come to xbox.

@justinjackson2588

8 ай бұрын

Oh. And have you played with the camera function in your hand scanner menu? You can save 39 pictures that randomly pop into your load screens. I have taken to telling my daughters tales of my exploits on different worlds. I take pictures of creatures that are super strange or beautiful landscapes and tell them an embellished version of what the game provided. This space cockraoch was as high as a tree and had a whip tail and when I shot him in self defense he let out a screech and all his compatriots came. It has been a blast.

I’m so addicted to this game. It’s all I’ve been doing after work.

@ivanwm2513

8 ай бұрын

As Dolfan, I never thought I would agree with a Pats fan j/k 😂, but yep, this game is amazing.

@lordsnot9540

7 ай бұрын

@@ivanwm2513 Same here. I've been getting up early each morning at around 5:30am just so I can grab a few hours at it before I have to go to work, that's how hooked I am!

@frankreynolds4413

6 ай бұрын

@@lordsnot9540real bro I do the same (but maybe not AS early lol)

@dragonsofthesky7459

6 ай бұрын

Same. So much fun!! 🎉🎉

@dazedgamer86

3 ай бұрын

I can't get enough I love it

Love Starfield. It doesn’t need to be for everyone, but it certainly is for me. BGS games immerse me and allow me to stretch my legs in my own way like nothing else can. If you buy into the fantasy and allow yourself to enjoy it I think you’ll find an incredible, unique experience that truly is the sum of its parts as an RPG and simulation as well as the amount of yourself you put into it. It’s its own game with its own goals and merit.

"I played Pitfall as a game, dude, this looks AMAZING." PREACH!!!! :D

As i have been saying for a few years now, the biggest problem with games in the last 8 or so years is gamers. Their personal expectations and the hypocrisy in their reasoning for why they don't like a game is almost comical. It must be a nightmare for developers now days to find that goldilocks senario.... This problem also actually exists in music, and I blame the consumer.

@skyriminspace

4 ай бұрын

I understand where you're coming from. It's on each individual to investigate where their beliefs & opinions come from. I used to be terribly elitist about music because i'd decided that blues based 70's rock was the pinnacle. Thank god i grew up (& also my tastes broadened a bit). I feel like a lot of the people (kids & teens mainly i assume, like i was in my blues rock phase) will experience a similar mellowing in time. Just play/listen to what you enjoy!

I thought Bethesda was done when I saw the mess of the Fallout 76 launch, but at least for me, Starfield proves they still know how to make the kind of games I'll be playing years from now, just like Skyrim and Fallout 4, probably with lots of mods installed.

Most of the channels that complain about a game are channels based on doing nothing but complaining about games. Just this morning I got tricked for a few minutes by a video about the DLC and how it was going to be all this stuff, Mechs, House Varuun, mounts! and the dude didn't even know that you can enter the Varuun embassy in New Atlantis. This new breed of youtubers that do nothing but regurgitate the same wrong info from whatever dumbass managed to throw up a video first is getting really tiresome.

@skyriminspace

8 ай бұрын

All about the clicks innit.

@Tenebrous227

4 ай бұрын

You are spot on. Seen several people try to Jumpstart KZread careers just hating on games, mainly starfield

@KomeFits

4 ай бұрын

It's pretty evident this game wasn't received well collectively. KZreadrs aside.

Many negative Starfield reviews on KZread seem to center around clout-chasing on "new AAA game is bad/soulless/uncreative" and not listing anything good about them (it can be locations, quests or combat). More geniue critiques I actually accept include core story, exploration, skill trees and UI design. The presence of loading screens means Bethesda can avoid opening a performance/bugs can of worms and avoiding being the next Cyberpunk or Jedi Survivor on launch.

@InvestmentBankr

8 ай бұрын

Or maybe our standards have increased in the last 20 years 🙄

@sizzlebuzz

8 ай бұрын

​@@InvestmentBankr Which company does an open world first person RPG better than Bethesda? Who does a better open world RPG better than Bethesda at all? Which games so I can play them. CDPR? Bioware with Dragon Age Inquisition? Aside from UI, what standards are you talking about? I've spent double to triple the time in Starfield before getting bored than in those games. Maybe people need to stop attempting to find meaning in their lives through video games. A majority of the criticisms I'ver seen of this game don't address the actual issues with it.

@InvestmentBankr

8 ай бұрын

@@sizzlebuzz sorry I cant respond through all your strawmen and adhominums, and that delightful no true scotsman at the end - how about you learn how to critically argue or refute an idea before blathering into the void again, Ill respond when you make a real point

@sizzlebuzz

8 ай бұрын

@@InvestmentBankr So you can't answer a question because you don't have an answer. Best of luck with your journey of finding a video game to change your life. Personally I would suggest a family but I understand that's not an option for everyone. "Learn how to critically argue with a vague statement". No thanks. Why would I critically argue or refute anything in KZread comments. You could, and probably do, have autism. You could be a schizo. You could be a random troll with nothing better to do. I asked you a genuine question and you couldn't even answer. Why comment then? Your reply was the most cringe thing I have read in a long time. It reads like you're attempting to look intelligent without actually saying anything meaningful. It was completely pointless. This isn't a debate, we're not politicians who are paid to lie, this is a KZread comments section. Get well soon.

@bdleo300

8 ай бұрын

@@sizzlebuzz KC Deliverance for example, vastly better open world RPG: better storytelling, better characters, better NPC routines, and it even looks better 5 years later. With only a fraction of Bethesda money! And even Fallout 4 for example is a better game than Starfield, even technically. Watch one of those video comparing FO4 and SF and SF is literally downgraded. Defending SF is sheer masochism.

The negative reviews are a little insane. I won't finish my first playthru for at least another year.

People seem to misremember what Bethesda games are, and after recently going back arena i can safely say their games have always been a special kind of rpg

@Calbeck

8 ай бұрын

VERY "special"

@Kelticfury

8 ай бұрын

@@Calbeck its funny how with enough time passing, creators of a thing end up being derided by fans of the stuff that wouldn't exist without that initial step along the way.

@spacedaniel492

8 ай бұрын

@@Kelticfury They're not actual fans, they're people who are addicted to internet outrage, and see Bethesda as a lolcow ever since 76, which tbf was awful. That said, Starfield is fucking incredible.

@daizenmarcurio

8 ай бұрын

@@Kelticfury that's false cuz the dark souls series is one of the best ever. And it exploded with elden ring while strongly catering to its core audience

@Kelticfury

8 ай бұрын

@@daizenmarcurio When it has been around for 20 years and the fans start bitching about the company who made it then your argument might hold water.

It's a space sim game with good story and interesting characters. Alot of people who complain are sore about previous Bethesda games or people who have never wanted to stare at the void of space on a planet with no one else around. I'm in love with starfeild. It's exactly what I needed after elite dangerous cut content and space legs away from consoles.

I enjoyed the game, but the 30fps lock on consoles kept me from coming back. Now the May 15th update is supposed to add 60fps support on the Series X among other awesome new features. Can't wait to jump back in!

Appreciate the nuanced review. I love Starfield, but do feel it has plenty of room for improvement. I’ve always valued well-thought out criticism, but it feels increasingly impossible to find that on KZread. There’s so much algorithm chasing, over-sensationalized garbage that regurgitate the same tired talking points.

@echeneis2256

5 ай бұрын

This is how you can understand the reason behind this. From the outset, all the negativity surrounding Starfield has centered around critic "SCORES". Now it's ironic that IGN gave the game 7 out of 10, and all these retards latched onto it like it was the "writing on the wall". Well, it's ironic because these same people will tell you IGN is not real game journalism, or that they are part of the mainstream media, out of touch. How fun. It's so weird how everyone is trying to bash the creation engine, really makes it seem like some kind of corporate sabotage. Like someone is trying to take down Bethesda, take em out of the competition. They must know that if Bethesda gave up Creation Engine, it would be like McDonald's giving up their "secret sauce". In short, it would make Bethesda just another generic studio making generic games on unreal engine 5 lol. Again, how ironic.

@j85grim4

2 ай бұрын

This.

@rcash3625

Ай бұрын

Agreed it has room for improvement... We also have time. Its a brand new world. No mans sky didn't start off perfect. Apparently its a good game now. Personally I still dont like it...not for me but u know

@j85grim4

Ай бұрын

@rcash3625 It won't ever be able to seamlessly transition the way that game does. However, No Man's Sky looks like a goofy cartoon to me. I take the look and art design of Starfield any day over that crap.

Starfield is the first Bethesda game i actually got to the ending since fallout 3.

@anonymous_dot_com2326

2 ай бұрын

Starfield is the only Bethesda game i actually love. Found the rest of their catalogue boring as hell. granted im nit a huge fan of Medieval fantasy games or post apocalyptic wastelands like fallout, find it incredibly dull. Although i do like post apocalyptic games with Zombies etc like days gone or The last of us, which are not wastelands.

In the same comment thread i saw one guy say that his series x caught on fire trying to run it, (obvious lie) and another who said it should've been a last gen title. The smooth brain hate spamming is getting ridiculous. Im guessing with pretty good reasoning that its almost exclusively salty playstation fanboys that are infuriated that xbox got an exclusive title.

I think the thing that hit me the most about your review was the bit about each system being a 7/10 (or less) when put against the best game in each class - but none of those other games have as many systems. And when summed up - Starfield is way more than the sum of it's parts/systems. I'm level 81 - many, many hours of play and guess what - I still have not visited The Eye nor done Sam Coe's quest yet. The faction quests, side missions and a bit of grinding (bullying loads of Varuun in Serpentis 😜) to unlock cash and all ship parts so I can build a fleet of my favorite sci-fi ships has kept me busy and engaged. I've even dabbled in building a base, on the shores of a lovely beach - just as a place to hang out with my crew. I will eventually complete the story and find a NG+ I want to be my home universe - then we'll see. But that may be hundreds more hours of play from where I am at. Anything that can keep me engaged like this is a good game in my book - maybe not one that lives in my head rent-free forever - but still something I'll always remember that took me out of the day-to-day and that I enjoyed.

@johndeighan2495

7 ай бұрын

" each system being a 7/10 (or less) when put against the best game in each class - but none of those other games have as many systems" I'd agree with that. But I'm not sure I would agree with the next bit - that Starfield is way more than the sum of its systems. After all, how do those systems interact with each other? That's the ONLY way a game can be more than the sum of its parts - if its component systems interact in meaningful ways. But do they really interact meaningfully in Starfield? How, for instance, does ship combat interact with other systems? It's basically a self-contained mini-game. Same idea with ship customization. Spaceships are over here - main quest is over here - faction quests are here, here, here and here - outpost building here - exploration and resource gathering here... that's how Starfield is structured. It's like all these separate workstations and you rotate from one to the other. Do all these systems come together to form a single, integrated super-system out of their interactions? No, not really. What happens at one workstation has little effect on what happens at another.

@frankiechan9651

7 ай бұрын

@@johndeighan2495 Reasoned and polite arguments on YT? Who would have thunk it? 🙂 I see what you mean - but I will say that for me, ship building and ship combat are linked as you can see the ship that you created performing. That set of quad cannons slung under your cockpit chewing away at shields, the rockets streaking away from mounts on side nacelles etc? Or when going into combat in first person view - seeing your crew at stations beside you. Plus the quiet times just wandering the ship and seeing your crew hanging out, making lunch, sweeping etc. That stuff floats my boat. If you get deep into it enough (and I haven't) base building, exploration, resource gathering, manufacturing is all linked and you can live your dream in that. Now - the two above don't link well and the main quests don't link - but do have some overlap - but for me, why it works is that I can do things that suit my mood or the time I have to play. I'm not forced into a grind to get a snippet of story advanced (Destiny refugee). The weapon and suit crafting on top of the looter shooter aspect I also like. White loot that has levels - but can be modded up (once unlocked). The less common loot can be tweaked - but less danger of OP due to less mod slots than white and there is still the chase for gold loot. So compromise? A few systems, when summed, are better than alone - if not a totally seamless game overall?

@aarachus

6 ай бұрын

Sounds like you play like I do

What I love about Starfield is that they didn’t try to make some brand new experience. Starfield is just a good old fashioned Bethesda game, and I love it that way. One thing I really like is there not being any local maps. I’m actually having to walk around and find wherever it is that I’m supposed to go. And I like ingredients being in different shops. I honestly feel like I’m playing Morrowind again, and I mean that as a compliment. For me Starfield has that Morrowind feel, for lack of a better term.

@MaticTheProto

8 ай бұрын

No, it’s literally worse

@chrisyiotis936

8 ай бұрын

@@MaticTheProtook,pony,if you say so,now go play bugman 2

@MaticTheProto

8 ай бұрын

@@chrisyiotis936 you have less than no taste

@mariomario-dy1kc

7 ай бұрын

​@@chrisyiotis936 He isn't wrong though. Morrowind had more effort put into its world, quests and mechanics than Starfield.

@chrisyiotis936

7 ай бұрын

@@mariomario-dy1kcif you feel that way you don’t have to like it. I on the other hand enjoyed it way more than morrowind and oblivion. For me it is on par with Skyrim. In some areas Skyrim is better and in others starfield is better. What matters is that I’d you like Bethesda rpgs you are gonna love starfield unless you are a fanboy of a plastic box and you need to feel good for your choice of console. I mean ffs,there are people who wished that starfield failed just so they don’t feel bad they don’t own an Xbox. I personally have all three consoles(ps5,series s,switch) but I can’t stand sony ponies mentality. You can see that Spider-Man was not review bombed as starfield,you know why?cause most Xbox players don’t care. They are just still enjoying starfield.of course there are some x bots,but the majority of the community is not like that. On the other hand ponies only care if spider man is better than starfield. And boy I have to say it’s at least two leagues down.

45 years gaming, a decade creating them - you are the first commentor to state it CORRECTLY. I salute you sir!

@_Addi_

7 ай бұрын

There is no correct answer. What you enjoy is subjective. If you enjoy the game, great, Im happy that you do. If you dont, thats a bummer, hopefully something else comes out that scratches the itch. There are good things to praise the game about, and there are things that definitely need criticism.

@sagearmaggedon7307

7 ай бұрын

@@_Addi_I think what he means is from the perspective of making a well informed decision. Alot of people that are more negative towards the game are usually doing so from a surface evaluation perspective, typically without further understanding or context.

@_Addi_

7 ай бұрын

@@sagearmaggedon7307 This is the case for everyone, critical, or positive about of game. Both sides largely have solid reasoning for why they enjoy or dislike the game.

@sagearmaggedon7307

7 ай бұрын

@@_Addi_ Its nit necessarily like this for everyone . For example, you have a person who thinks Bethesda is lazy and incompetent because the presentation is not comparable to say Baldurs Gate 3 or Cyberpunk. This is of course different from someone who knows why Bethesda did it the way they did, yet still does not like it. The former more likely aligns with someone who will trash the game, while the latter will be more in line with someone who offers constructive criticism.

@_Addi_

7 ай бұрын

@@sagearmaggedon7307 When I say everyone, I dont mean all of their arguments as well. People have some good input, and some bad input to give. Bethesda can have a reason for doing something, but if the end goal isnt accomplished in a way that appeals to people, then it doesnt really matter. There is plenty to take away from comparing starfield to other games.

Finally someone that talks about the game instead of complaining about other games.

@deangregoric4735

7 ай бұрын

You need other games to compare you weren't given a shit which in fact it is its literally a downgrade from every their game

@sagearmaggedon7307

7 ай бұрын

@@deangregoric4735 Competing and comparing is apart of alot of issues in todays age. It skews perspective if not done appropriately. For example when you said its literally worse than their previous games. In some aspects sure, but it surpasses them in others. Only mentioning that its literally worse implies that you see zero improvements or changes, which is a skewed perspective.

@deangregoric4735

7 ай бұрын

@@sagearmaggedon7307 when you market something as the next-gen only to see the game become the biggest meme on the internet even for Bethesda standards then something is wrong Am still searching at what aspects is it good at, in my logic games are supposed to improve not downgrade over time, Todd says they are using a new engine but this one looks the same same old bugs and glitches and still can't support and big open areas so the game need to be boxed in chunks to work properly, basically like everyone is saying it, the game would be good if it released in 2012

@degariuslozak2169

7 ай бұрын

@@deangregoric4735 You dropped out of school I assume

@mre1561

6 ай бұрын

​@@deangregoric4735they act like every negative review is somebody trying to be negative. Game is bleeding players like a hog and there's a reason why.

Nice production, and I agree with you on many of Starfield's merits. The part I disagree with most is on exploration. Bethesda's exploration formula is essentially: long journey from A to B, with plenty to of distractions along the way like points of interest, loot, and random encounters. Starfield's formula is menu, pick a destination, loading screen, then scan a few objects and end up at point B. It's not hard to imagine a better implementation of that formula, at least from a player's perspective.

@teamnovember5594

5 ай бұрын

Oh, and Starfield has plenty of friction points, mostly around inventory management and crafting. It's basically Fallout 4's systems, but worse. Resources linked to workbenches? Nope. Transfer a mod from one weapon to another? Nope. Scrap junk weapons and armor? Nope. Reach your ship's inventory from the Lodge (a problem Fallout 4 solved with supply lines)? Nope. That stuff causes immense friction in the experience, especially in the early to mid game.

That is what is different is the unmarked quest givers. It does help immersion.

@RandomWandrer

8 ай бұрын

Anyone complaining that you can't just wander around and find stuff to do has not tried very hard. If you talk to every npc with a name, alot of them need help, and often these lead to really exciting locations and sometimes legendary items. Not all of them. But alot.

@GtheMVP

8 ай бұрын

I always seek people with a name. They always have between 800 and 2k credits to pickpocket, or some questline.

Im prolly like 7 hours into this game, but i know i haven't even scratched the surface yet. Also its just so meme-ably Bethesda

Yk, what people thought Starfield should be partially is their seeming nostlagic misremeberance of older games from Bethesda as well.

I felt like reading reviews of this game made me give up my first playthrough by letting others influence me it wasn't fun or a bad game. I'm playing a second time and it is so awesome. It is a straight up Bethesda game and I'm convinced the fans are trying harder to hate them instead of enjoying their games.

Great analysis👍🏼 im sure its gonna age like wine, just like fallout 4 did.

You want some real complaints man I gotchu. I have 100+ hours, have finished main, all side quests, and have done a ton of crafting and outpost building, (love the game but it has many flaws) Story is very weak and often progresses due to player covienience rather than logical or well written progression(quick example is Barret givng us a whole ship literally after we met him the firs time, I can give you plenty more examples of this if you need) , also has a ton of exposition(including side quest as well). Exploration is the worst out of any betheseda game yet and I'm not just talking space exploration, just pure land exploration feels completely lifeless due to the poor precedural generation, I would way rather have 20 fully realized handcrafted planets rather than the insane amount we currently have that just feel lifeless (which is a huge flaw when they marketed the exploration and its literally a game where the main story is about space expoloration😂, starfield feels like a lake of content spread over an ocean) AI feel very lifeless and often break immersion rather than add to it and I don't just mean because of how they look its also how they talk, the AI in starfield even in their just passing by conversations is always directed to you, even if we are the main character every conversation should not evolve around our player simply to add more exposition, the AI always talk to the player rather than have realistic dialogue(look at how the citizens in cyberpunk talk to you for example, not every conversation is to the player and gives the AI more a realistic feel and offers a more immersive world, this one's hard to give examples for but I can link some youtube videos that give a good comparison if you want), their facial animations and overall AI intelligence is just the icing on top. Performance as well is brutal at times currently playing on series X, have had multiple hard crashes, have had multiple game breaking glitches where I had to completely revert save(this was before I started outpost building) I really started to love outpost resource farms but they caused my game to lag, stutter and crash way more often so I just stopped all the farms completely. I do agree with you partly on weapon variety, however I've modded (In game) and obtained every weapon and personally would prefer to see more, but I admit that's just a personal preference. Combat is alright, the AI is so stupid it makes combat really easy, played on very hard the whole playthrough and only really had to focus up hard in combat maybe like 2 times the entire playthrough, the AI is just very predictable and once you obtain enough meds combat loses its tension pretty quickly IMO. Still enjoyed the combat personally but I'd be hard pressed to say its difficult and very engaging. Also yes there is a ton of just negative reviews online, however there are also a ton of actual real problems with the game that after many hours I found hard to ignore

@RandomWandrer

8 ай бұрын

But did you have fun? You played 100+ hours so I presume you had a good time... or you would stop, right? Your points all make sense. But im still having a wonderful time in the game.

@jon-michaelfarrah4512

8 ай бұрын

@@RandomWandrer I had some very fun moments and some very frusturating moments with the game as well. Definitely would not argue against it being a fun game but also fun isn't a very high standard for a game imo, a lot of mobile games are "fun" still doesen't make it a great game.

@giorgoskatselis9515

8 ай бұрын

​@@jon-michaelfarrah4512 Actually if a game is fun is what exactly the standard should be for a video game. Its simple as that. Now ofcourse, there are games that are betters than others for sure depending on what you are looking for. As the video very correctly states, a bgs game is a combination of various different mechanics and genres. And as you would expect, it can not be perfect on any of those. But it can be perfect on combining them. That's exactly what I expected from Starfield, and thats exactly what it delivered.

@jon-michaelfarrah4512

8 ай бұрын

@@giorgoskatselis9515 Starfield was not perfect at combining even bgs aspects man, I gave specific examples you gave generalizations, please state specifically other than ship building where starfield excells?? And yes video games of course always should be fun otherwise no one would ever play them. But "fun" as a RATING standard is a very low and a completely subjective standard, hell man look at Anthem I had fun moments in the game, didn't stop it being the dumpster fire it was. If fun is your only standard for video games thats great for you personally, you'll probably be able to enjoy a lot of video games other people wouldn't be able to. But as a consumer I want something more than a realtive subjective idea of "fun" to be the market standard, should always be a concept developers should try to be adding to their game but as proof whether a game is good or bad its a non-concrete standard because everyone's idea of fun is completely subjective.

@giorgoskatselis9515

8 ай бұрын

​@@jon-michaelfarrah4512 I am not a game journalist and I am not going to write every single thing that I like in the game. Its a fun game for me and therefore is perfect. Simple as that. Everyone nowdays became experts :) Well... I am not. I am just a gamer who wants to have fun

I'll give to you. You reminding me how bgs games work kinda change my opinion on it. Its not hard to believe the sheer amount of work it would take to make the world seemless with all the systems needed to work for every area

I put 16 days of playtime in this game, I didn’t love everything about it but I kept playing and I was able to find the fun in it. I give it 7/10 end of the day. I would like more hardcore gameplay with fuel running out, food needing to be eaten, but I’m sure that’s stuff will come eventually with dlc or mods

@jeffjwatts

5 ай бұрын

I'm looking forward to survival mode.

My favourite game at the moment

This might be the most well thought out and written, NUANCED, discussion of why Starfield is a good game, and exactly what Bethessda set out to create and why. It's a prime example of the casual player getting far, far more out of it than pro gamer, million-sub, content bruhs looking to make a quick buck on a fad during a game launch and now they're scrambling to recant and call it garbage instead of genius because negativity sells. If it's actually that bad, no one would be talking about it anymore. The vast majority of players are not making content, they're playing games. They're playing Starfield and enjoying their time with it. The silent majority, as usual. Keep fighting the good fight, both in and outside the Starfield.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but since I love the game it's genuinely been a bit of a bummer how hard it is to find fan content of it when it seems like everywhere you look for it 85% of the content is made up of talking about how much it sucks :(

@sagearmaggedon7307

7 ай бұрын

Some people have bad opinions though. They trash Starfield like its “Gollum” or that King Kong game.

@blockmasterscott

6 ай бұрын

I hear ya. I honestly like it.

@marcoglara2012

6 ай бұрын

Play BG 3. It’ll reveal how much money was wasted in star-field . Stuart me. Leave star field in the past, where is belongs.

@Dicearoo

6 ай бұрын

@@marcoglara2012 I do play BG3! I love it, too. It's objectively a much better game, I just find Starfield fun too, haha.

@sagearmaggedon7307

6 ай бұрын

@@Dicearoo I wouldnt say its objectively better. But objectively, people think its better.

I feel like we’re going to remember Starfield’s early reception similarly to the prequels. People liked it, then were told not to like it, and eventually people are going to like it again (that’s already happened for me)

Startaxi is a nice little game, nothing's overly challenging, no exploration, no flight controls to learn and plenty of grind for the OCD, and will be expanded with paid DLC. Perfect console fodder, simple and undemanding.

@andrewwagner942

8 ай бұрын

Undemanding on everything but your computer parts

@davewills6121

8 ай бұрын

@@andrewwagner942 Its a shame, didn't expect a masterpiece with Startaxi, also not really enjoying AC Mirage either. Fingers crossed for LOTF 2023 on the 13th.

@rayosborne8617

8 ай бұрын

Starfield is a great game, a 10/10

@davewills6121

8 ай бұрын

@@rayosborne8617No....its true value would be 4/10, and i'm feeling generous.

@rayosborne8617

8 ай бұрын

@davewills6121 nope you are just a gay Sony pony, starfield is a 10/10 and that's a fact

I don't know man at the time when Fallout 3, Oblivion, and skyrim came out they did have fantastic stories considered the best in the industry. Storytelling in games has since improved but Bethesda has not kept up. We shouldn't expect good competent narratives in a Bethesda game? A game advertised as a narrative experience. Look, you don't care about story, but to make a credible review you can't just disregard the idea.

@brionymaste9481

8 ай бұрын

What are you talking about I love Fallout 3 and I did all quest but it had a horrible story , the ending was so underwhelming that they did a dlc just to have a proper ending.

@hengineer

8 ай бұрын

The main stories in almost all the games range from meh to suck. I've often found the side content and side quests to often have far better stories and writing.

@GtheMVP

8 ай бұрын

@brianmaste exactly, Fallout 3's vanilla ending was ridiculous. I had a mutant with me who could go into the chamber. Thankfully Broken Stell (is that the DLC name?) Fixed that.

@spacedaniel492

8 ай бұрын

BSG have always had meh stories in their main questline. It is ALWAYS about the side questlines in their games.

@Quickmart4

8 ай бұрын

@@brionymaste9481 At the time it was in line with "good" stories in games. It certainly wasn't awesome, but Bethesda has not kept up at all. I will say, I think this is the best writing they've done since skyrim. Fallout 4 and 76 are unbearable to me.

People out here calling Starfield overhyped are the same people who forgot the direction Bethesda's design philosophy has been going in since Skyrim. They all came into it thinking it was going to be "Space Daggerfall" or "Space Oblivion" the moment they heard about procedural generation and traits.

@gabemissouri

8 ай бұрын

To be fair it does remind me a lot of daggerfall, which is why I like it so much

@sagearmaggedon7307

7 ай бұрын

My pet peeve is when people say, “Its a poor rpg because of the lack of choices and consequences. They still haven’t figured out that Bethesda has been doing their own thing for 20+ years.lol

@degariuslozak2169

7 ай бұрын

@@sagearmaggedon7307 Agreed,plus those features aren't what makes an RPG to begin with

@sagearmaggedon7307

7 ай бұрын

@@degariuslozak2169 Now, there are plenty of people that will say that choices and consequences are essential to an rpg, but there are different ways to approach rpgs.

I finally finished the game and frankly I think it's great. There's some stuff I hope they add like the ability to call your ship, atmospheric flight, more stuff to do in space, and ground vehicles/pilot-able mechs....

FYI loading times on series x are short as too, barely an inconvenience.

@skyriminspace

6 ай бұрын

Do you use photo mode? Most load screens over 3 or 4 secs will start to feature pictures you've taken.

@Tenebrous227

4 ай бұрын

Fact

After I installed Starfield I suddenly stopped playing anything else

I played 30 hours of it and dipped. I don't agree with the review but I wanted to hear dissenting opinions because the negative reviews go far too hard in my opinion. I can't comment on the quality of the game, I'll just say that it didn't hold my interest. Edit: LMAO the review so far is "Bethesda games are outdated by modern standards but we can't complain about it because that's what they've always done"

@juantsu2000

8 ай бұрын

That’s not at all what he said…

Im so glad to finally find someome who is positive toward starfield. The discourse has made me feel crazy cause i feel like i'm the only person who likes starfield.

Good to run across some sanity surrounding this fantastic game.

Most people would say their opinion on sf is unbiased and objective. They always bring up skyrim as a comparison but they're relating a supposedly objective opinion to a subjective opinion they have of skyrim or fallout. It's apples and oranges but in the world of bandwagon youtube clickbait thumbnails there is no objective or subjective. It either is or isn't bad. KZread does not understand this dichotomy, it will put the negative reviews first because they're popular and because negativity will always be more dramatic than positivity. No matter which way you spin it, it's missing features def, but there's alot people aren't giving it credit for. Next time u make a video, if you're going to pick a stance, stay with it. I'd pick the high road.

Ah, I see you are in my age group, you probably were as excited as I was as kid when Dad brought home that very first console game; Pong. :) And talking about crappy graphics that we were fine with, my jam was and still is TEMPEST by Atari. Totes agree with ya on this, funny how mad people are that Bethesda did Bethesda…but like better.

@craig.a.glesner

8 ай бұрын

Also, love the punny name. Very funny.

@hengineer

8 ай бұрын

I'm not looking for photorealism in games. Anyone who says they are are looking at the wrong games. NMS is anything BUT photorealistic.

@akadros310

4 ай бұрын

Me too. My first system was a Pong as well and I have had most systems through the years and played many of the classics. I could be wrong but it seems many of the older gamers really enjoyed Starfield, at least the ones I have talked to about it.

@craig.a.glesner

4 ай бұрын

@@akadros310 indeed, it does seem that being older does help one enjoy the game.

You know I am currently playing this game and I am in love with it but if I look it up in the internet its mostly negative reviews and complaints and I am like "Dude am I the only one feeling the opposite of what the reviews are saying?" Then I come across this video and dude I am convinced that I was right. But I feel that Bethesda really secured their future with Starfield. I mean if they want they can put a new city with tons of more quests in any of the 1000 planets in a single DLC or expansion. I mean the foundation have been layed and an infinite level of more content could be produced just like that.

Ive never played Bethesda games for the questlines but for the freedom to do whatever i want forever

You made a ton of great points. I agree with everything you’ve said and have been waiting for someone else to feel this way

Now that cyberpunk has redeemed itself, its time for everyone to jump on a new hate train. It's absolutely ridiculous. Starfield deserves better.

@user-hr4em2qg9d

3 ай бұрын

Some people derive their happiness from hating things..

My biggest complaint, is not the exploration or travel but the lack of a performance mode for Series S. Even the new update coming this month is more optimized for X. Still, love the game.

I totally agree about the maps. I want local maps in major cities and maybe some of the smaller towns.

And show me ONE game where you can play 3rd and first person like equally good! Finally BGS made it 100% working 😊

@rl9148

8 ай бұрын

Gotta be a bot

@sagearmaggedon7307

7 ай бұрын

Lol

Most reviews are not positive anymore, lol - the negative have remained constant while the positive have fallen far off

If they released it on PS5 I believe the hate would be less. It’s like someone talking about an ex-spouse, everything is exaggerated with venom.

@bedern6552

6 ай бұрын

wtf is good about this game? They ruined exploration..Its so god damn boring to play and you still sit here like " hurr durr the game is so fun and good"... How is it even possible jesus.

So many buy a new game just because its trendy, even if its not for them.

Great review. Most Starfield reviews are like: I can´t fly myself for millions of kilometers through empty space -> I have to walk 500m to each objective -> I can´t walk all around the planet -> stipid game.

@gabemissouri

8 ай бұрын

Fr lol

@NoLifeWood

8 ай бұрын

So: minimal space exploration -> minimal planet transportation -> minimal planet exploration -> stupid game ?

Finally a positive video on Starfield. I honestly love the game. It's just like when I first played Skyrim, you get lost in wondering around and before you know it, ten hours have passed lol

@dragonsofthesky7459

5 ай бұрын

I feel the same 100%

@alienupload3331

5 ай бұрын

Ugh, don't even get me started on that boring ass "Skyrim in space" rehash. Wandering around for 10 hours finding nothing but repetitive garbage quests and copy-pasted assets is NOT good game design. Just because slop like this keeps brainless drones "entertained" (if you can even call grinding fetch quests entertainment) doesn't excuse its utter lack of quality, polish or coherent vision. And I swear to god if one more Bethesda stan compares this to Skyrim, I might puke. At least Skyrim had SOME glimmer of originality and ambition behind its systems.

You say, a big part of the BGS game hook is that there are always so many things you can do to progress your character that you always feel like your time is spent meaningfully. I'd agree, and that's where Starfield fails. Pretty much every material you need for crafting can be obtained at basic vendors in quantities that make ever needing to actually hunt for them or set up outposts to farm them a ridiculous use of time. One stop at the shop and you can build every mod you need and complete all your research assuming you have the perks unlocked. Not that you ever need to bother with crafting since you can't make bullets or upgrade a weapon's base quality so that stuff you find in the wild is usually better anyway. The skills/perks are probably the worst lineup they've ever had. The damage perks for instance only offer a theoretical 60% bonus for weapon type and damage type, this means the game is balanced around the idea that whether you have those perks or not you'll be fine as it's only a little more than 50%. Skyrim on the other hand increased damage by 1% per level by default with perks that stack up to an additional 100% for 200% damage at max level. The difference between using something you've invested in is very noticeable, in Starfield it basically doesn't matter. This is true of a lot of perks and the overly long grinds for relatively little payout for a lot of skills only make it feel worse. Add to that the use check only counting after having unlocked a rank leading to a weird point hoarder mentality so that you can level skills after doing the challenges instead of "wasting uses" because you have no points but completed the challenge. Then past about level 30 quests and regular enemy xp drops off drastically and the only effective way to level is to spam craft items or massacre alien wildlife endlessly. It ends up feeling like gaming the system did in Oblivion but without some of Oblivion's extra alternative routes to grow like enchanting and spell crafting. Don't even get me started on the powers. Nobody in their right mind can say 240 times doing that "mini game" is an effective and engaging progression hook. Also it doesn't blend seamlessly into natural play like Dragon Shouts. In Skyrim you were fairly likely to kill a dragon randomly while exploring from a to b and there was a decent chance at b you'd learn a new word you need a new soul to unlock. It let you do whatever and progress as Dragonborn. As Starborn you have to go out of your way to locate temples and run the mini game and then eventually reset the universe and do it again. After a certain point progression just becomes hoping you get a good rng legendary weapon which is extremely terrible. Especially since legendary animals don't drop weapons which means effective leveling and effective weapon hunting are disconnected. It's all a disjointed mess of progression systems that don't properly compliment each other. After a certain point I got all the skills that seemed fun and everything else seemed like a bother to do instead of a seamless part of playing.

Great video. Starfield will after DLCs and mods still have a significant player base a decade from now.

The best BGS game will always be oblivion

@SamanthaStephens-nc8rr

6 ай бұрын

One of the only comments that doesn't make me wanna punch someone lol.

I want a positive review, but not one that claims the mod system is super deep or won't acknowledge objective flaws like how dumb it is for is to run the same room with the floating rings over and over and over and over...

People who compare it to BG3 forget a huge part of what makes BG3 such an awesome game. It’s a dungeons and dragons game. Of course it’s going to be extremely open ended. That’s what dungeons and dragons is so that’s why it has that much choice involved. It needs choice.

@sagearmaggedon7307

5 ай бұрын

Good point

the biggest problem for me comes to the story and fragment world design,which is what they good at back in the time

I have put almost 300 hours into this game, I finished all the main quests and reached ng plus 10, and after all that I'm still wondering where exactly was it supposed to get good. I am not much of a Bethesda fan but I think critically Daggerfall and Morrowind were the best they ever did, but surprisingly enough I played Starfield longer than all their other games combined. There is a certain addictive quality to it, maybe because of all the different features but with a few exceptions none of the features were particularly good. The best part is the passive storytelling that Bethesda is known for, finding random things in the world that tell a story, the active storytelling is a bit more hit or miss, and the side quests range from pretty good to 'go get me a coffee style fetch quests, the faction quests are a mixed bag, not necessarily bad but nothing special either and full of contrivances and convenient occurrences that detract from the immersion, for example the UC quest feels like it's only half finished and hands you the villain on a platter. The Shipbuilder is not bad but has a very clunky interface and weird limitations but what really hinders is that it feels kind of pointless. Once you reach B class ships you become an unstoppable killing machine that nothing in the game can stop you, even on max difficulty, there are only a handful of different enemy types, and regardless of whether you are fighting the Spacers, crimson Fleet, House Verunn or the Ecliptic they are so similar in how they fight you might as well be fighting the same faction the entire game. I could go on, there is the terrible AI, the dated visuals, the laughably basic trading, the bland boring setting, the stupid Starborn, etc but I don't feel like wasting any more time. I'm sure that people will find all kinds of excuses for each one of these points and taken individually they might even be good excuses but when you combine all of the problems together then this game rates not terrible or Great, just above average to good. Now Modding will likely make it great but not the base game.

@lazarus7657

8 ай бұрын

Is there anything you did enjoy?

@Peregrin3

8 ай бұрын

@@lazarus7657 There were moments of fun but they were inconsistent, like the UC quest starts out great with a mission straight out of Alien, it builds up this idea of a great mystery and when you figure out that someone is behind it you are expecting to start an investigation to track them down but instead two minutes later you conveniently find a recording that tells you who did it. Every time I'm starting to get immersed there is something that will rip me out, it may be that it was rushed which is why there are so many inconsistencies, at moments the game feels very grounded and at others it is like playing a Monty python sketch, there is no cohesive theme. There is nothing wrong with humor as long as it doesn't detract from the world building but in starfield the balance is off.

@jez6078

4 ай бұрын

I disagree with everything you said, especially the visuals.

Starfield is great, 60 hours for me, but I do understand that some want BGS to evolve. Combat is clunky, some want it to evolve. BGS was leading the pack in RPGs, but competitors have come far to the point where some have moved beyond. The only reason we are not sick of BGS games like other series is that their games are so few and far between.

@skyriminspace

8 ай бұрын

Starfield is evolution. A lot of the people really dumping on this game don't just want evolution from Starfield though, they want it to be something it's not. Great formula for bitter disappointment apparently.

@lawrencehaynes6408

8 ай бұрын

​@@skyriminspaceplease explain how starfield is evolution 😂😂😂

@skyriminspace

8 ай бұрын

@@lawrencehaynes6408 you can see the familiar skyrim & fo4 "dna" at work, but everything's been touched up & (depending on one's subjective opinion of course), improved/expanded upon. In the context of a video game i can't think of a much better word than evolution.

@vknl99

8 ай бұрын

@@skyriminspaceweapon customization is worse than in fallout 4. melee combat is worse than in fallout 4. armor variety is worse than in skyrim. progression system is worse than skyrim because your skills are locked behind perk walls. weapon variety is worse than fallout 4 or skyrim (there are no unique models). quests are poorly written. sure, you can call that evolution

@skyriminspace

8 ай бұрын

@@vknl99 i agree with every point you make except the perks, i really like Starfield's perks system. More than fo4 or 'rim's. If you only focus on the negatives you are going to have a bad time. That's all i can say. Plenty of missed opportunities & underdeveloped elements in Starfield, but i look past them & i actually see a pretty awesome game with mad potential for expansion by dlc & mods.

Most of the negative comments are about the bugs in the game and rightly so. Ships that vanish from your fleet. Chests that lose all of there items. Enemies ignoring being shot at. Quests that don't trigger. The stupid amount of levels one has to do to get all perk points. Stupid things like not being able to fast travel while docked on some stations but works on others for no reason. No proper Maps for big towns. Spaceship weapons will often not fire during fights. Getting a bounty for taking out pirates. Having said all of that it can be fun when things work as they should. Far too often they fail and break the immersion.

To me, when they tried to say that "the astronauts that landed on the moon were having fun even when it was empty" as an argument as to why the game was fun in reality, they lost me. I dont care anymore if they fix the bugs, if they change what people are complaining about, thats disrespectful, not only to compare one of the biggest human achievements to a fucking videogame, but trying to lecture players to basically tell them "this is fun because we say so" As todd said it himself: "all of this just works"

its funny how the same ppl who criticise Starfield and call it not an RPG will turn around and claim that Cyberprank 2077 is. Whilst SF isnt my fave RPG but it does have actual RPG aspects to it which Cyberprank 2077 doesnt. How CDPR go from Witcher 3; an actual RPG to an interactive Keanu Reeves action game is beyond me. Talk about a massive drop in quality

@juantsu2000

8 ай бұрын

I don’t really think The Witcher 3 is actually an RPG tho. It has choices and consequences as well as stats but it doesn’t really let players play a different “role”. He’s always Geralt.

@GenericUsername-qp1ww

8 ай бұрын

@@juantsu2000 "It has choices and consequences as well as stats " thats already way more than anything CP 2077 has. Choices and consequences are what ppl want in an RPG not "oh noe, you've gone 5 minutes without talking to Keanu Reeves, HERE HE IS AGAIN!" *shoehorns Johnny in your fact for the 100th time*

@lawrencehaynes6408

8 ай бұрын

However whether you consider CB 2077 to be a RPG or not fundamentally it is a better game than starfield, anyone with a brain can see that. Better narrative, better characters, better gameplay, better visuals. Starfield fanboys know this deep down which is why they get so butthurt whenever their precious game is compared to good games 😂😂😂

@GenericUsername-qp1ww

8 ай бұрын

@@lawrencehaynes6408 it really isnt tho, the plot is literally just an interactive Keanu Reeves movie. An overpriced Keanu Reeves movie. CDPR lied abut it being a 'next-gen RPG' and if CP 2077 is what they call a 'next-gen RPG' then maybe they should stick to current-gen and leave next-gen RPG's to the professionals. If anything CDPR shouldve taken a note out of Kingdom Come Deliverance's book and had the gameplay in 1st person and plenty of 3rd person cutscenes, I didnt care in the slightest when i did the suicide ending as V was just a disembodied voice or better yet they shouldve made the game they lied about it being

The people who say the game is boring havnt turned the game difficulty up at all and it shows

@chrismichaelis7259

8 ай бұрын

I play on very hard and it’s much better

@lawrencehaynes6408

8 ай бұрын

First all turning up the difficulty does not make the game any less boring. The difficulty does not affect the boring story the boring fetch quests or the boring characters. Also if you are saying this then you are admitting this game is boring at lower difficulties, which means that the combat system is not that good to begin with

@sagearmaggedon7307

7 ай бұрын

@@lawrencehaynes6408 Boring characters and story is subjective. I like the characters here more than the ones in BG3

I think Starfield is not a space simulator, but is an amazing and incredible RPG with space elements. I'm enjoying this game so far, all I think every day is to play more and more, the work Bethesda did is absolutelly fantastic, even if they struggled in the launch with some bugs or some important stuff they launched after in patches. As if Skyrim didn't have problems on it's launch and everybody loves today. This game is bigger, is the most epic work from Bethesda, I asure you that.

all around the game is aggressively average, i enjoyed the improvements on the gunplay it felt more snappy way better than the previous games and love the atmosphere they built its why i put 90 hrs in, the stuff i didnt like was the planets were really really really boring its weird they're called the settled systems when the settled planets have 1 big city and scattered outposts, i guess its cool to get immersed in the city using quests but most of the quests if its not a "main one" are go here talk to someone or make a delivery they dont expand on anything and then when you finish the quests you're done with the area for good theres no reason to go back unless you're doing small quests i honestly didnt care for any of the companions, i kill and murder everything if its in my way and i cant do that if each person is telling me they wanna have a serious conversation when i get back, im not a bad man i just have bad days. it was kinda funny barret was trying to get in my pants the moment you start talking but i was 60hrs in when i finally got a flirt option with sarah it would have been dope if they spent more time flushing the planets out with more life and movement instead of making more junk items to pick up, im not even asking for much just a small team to work on the fluff on the planets, i feel like the only random encounters you get are in space ( the ones on the floor are the same " omg this person is lost please find them" and boom thats it nothing learned XP gained )and they're usually really quick, i enjoyed "dinner" with grandma 6 times and she still hasnt remembered me, which goes into my next point why does it feel like none of my choices have any weight to them, like the old earth ship you finish their quest and now they're just lifeless npcs you'll never need to talk to again, the ai ship you talk to just disappears never to be seen again, very cool quests but once its done its done no follow up, no added lore, no call backs, nothing i was unimpressed with the guns and space suits, the crafting system/base building was tedious i still did it but i didnt enjoy it at all, i actually hate the ship design i think theres only 1 ship i think looks okay? I dont agree with most of your video but who cares as long as you enjoyed the game and can speak very positive about it that sounds the game did its job for you 5/10 wouldnt play again

Thank You. I have been trying to find a review that is actually reviewing the game instead of shitting all over it. I have put alot of hours in the game, and aplaud the amount of love that has been put into this game. Unlike many other recent games, this game launched without countless gamebreaking bugs. This game has polish. Comparing it to narrative driven studios is ludicrous. Admittedly narrative heavy games are my favorite, so this will never be my favorite, however at face value this game exceeds my expectations of a Bethesda game.

@sagearmaggedon7307

7 ай бұрын

I also really like this game. I like what they hve done with the writing and dialogue. Far surpasses their previous games.

@mre1561

6 ай бұрын

Yea well shit has hit the fan, people are speaking, and the honeymoon phase is out

@sagearmaggedon7307

6 ай бұрын

@@mre1561 Once the storm of rampaging hate has died down, I think more people will start to see that they underestimated that game.

@ashamahee

6 ай бұрын

@@sagearmaggedon7307 no you see thats were you are wrong, alot of the "hate" and "shitting" is coming from long time fans of BGS titles like myself. The game is a major regression in almost every area. My love for BGS's older titles makes me want to think that its Microsofts fault since they have forced BGS to limit the game massively in order for it to work on their consoles instead of being primarily focused on PC, and so far the amount of stuff the data miners and modders have found in the game indicates strongly that the game has been nerfed to such a degree that we are only seeing a shadow of what it was supposed to be. Heck even Todd decided that realism features were not needed anymore after one of the most important selling points for him was realism, like wtf.

@sagearmaggedon7307

6 ай бұрын

@@ashamahee That literally does not make sense. Almost every area, really? You have to use selective vision to come to that conclusion. And understand this, I am also an ancient BGS fan. My favorite game from them is probably still Morrowind. I have poured untold hundreds of hours into each one of their titles, so I am very very familiar with their previous titles.

he really said 'where width is more important than depth' when we literally have the saying 'wide as an ocean but deep as a puddle' and we all agree thats a bad thing

@digitaldruglord1815

8 ай бұрын

Doesn't have to be. It's the Jack of all trades vs Master of one argument. Do you want your game to be excellent at one aspect and to be mediocre at the rest or do you want it to be to be mid/good at dozens of aspects but never particularly excels at any of them? It's up to you but which ever one you choose doesn't mean people get to throw bogus criticisms at the game

@sagearmaggedon7307

7 ай бұрын

This is true. Elden ring and Bg3 both have crafting systems but they are virtually non existent. Bethesda have embraced this formula for a long time.

@rogueshay853

6 ай бұрын

@@digitaldruglord1815Bethesda managed to be mediocre at everything. The game didn’t need to be this big.

@digitaldruglord1815

6 ай бұрын

@@rogueshay853 says who? Its a jack of all trades but definitely isn't a master of any of them and that's okay. The fact that Starfield is juggling so many systems and game play styles and does them half way decent is plenty amazing to me

@rogueshay853

6 ай бұрын

@@digitaldruglord1815 bro it’s okay to eat shit but you can put it on a plate and convince me it’s chocolate. Starfield is glaringly mediocre. There’s nothing special about the story, the gameplay, or the “exploration”. It’s bare minimum but on a bigger scale. It’s the definition of wide as an ocean but deep as puddle.

Crazy how you deleted all comments critiquing all your points

This game has plenty of room for improvement, but I still play it endlessly. The exploration element is just too much fun. The trove of bad reviews are because a lot of these reviewers jumped on the “bad news sells better” bandwagon.

@PlinyTheWelder

4 ай бұрын

Yeah it's got a ton of issues that can be improved. But it's not significantly different from any of the other games post Morriwind. And i think it's better than Fallout 4 for sure.

@skyriminspace

4 ай бұрын

Another observation in the same vein: it's easier to get hung up on something's flaws than to appreciate it's potential.

Аплодирую стоя! Скорее всего, многие не поймут, что я напишу... Языковой барьер, но просто выскажу свои мысли. Не понимаю такого бурного негатива в сторону Starfield. Это действительно одна из самых сильных игры Bethesda. Разоаботчики не стоят на месте, видно, что движок игры сильно переработали, мы имеем огромные локации, условные подземелья, с отличной детализацией, сотнями объектов подвластных законам физики и многие из них не требуют загрузки. Графически, игра выглядит намного лучше всего, что делала студия, в целом, разрыв в техническом плане ощущается куда больше, чем например между Skyrim и Fallout 4. Много интерестных квестов и отличные сюжеты фракций, тонна механик в которых интересно разбираться, мир генерирует много интересных событий и ощущается живым. Студия не побоялась изменить многие, привычные ей моменты... Будь то добавление тонны генерации и отсутствии цельной карты, забитой активностями через каждые 100 метров, как это было раньше. Но несмотря ни на что, игра ощущается всё той-же игрой от Bethesda. Магия, которая заставляет тебя убивать десятки часов всё так же на месте. Вот ты бежишь по квесту, затем, из любопытства решаешь приземлиться например на Меркурий, выходишь на поверхность, видишь как за холмом приземляется другой корабль, тебе интересно, ты бежишь к нему, захватываешь его, ты счастлив, отправляешься дальше в путь, на орбите Jamison твой корабль сканируют, оказывается на борту была контрабанда, которую ты не заметил, тебя задержали и вот ты уже вовлечён совершенно в другую квестовую линию.... Многие претензии вообще лицемерны.... Зачем игру сравнивать с BG3, это совершенно разные игры. Зачем игру сравнивать с Cyberpunk 2077, когда его дорабатывали 3 года, отдав на доработку еще треть бюджета игры. Стоит посмотреть на Skyrim, в техническом плане разве он не был отстающим в своё время? Посмотрите на технологичность gta 4 rdr 1, а затем на Skyrim... В плане сюжета, разве он не был слабее сверстников? Посмотрите на ME2 и Ведьмак 2, New Vegas...Но разве за всё это его полюбили многие?? Так и Starfield. Игры Bethesda любят за свой неповторимый стиль, таким остается и Starfield. Да и в наше время стоит поддерживать подобные проекты - огромная, сингловая игра с тонной контента, где на старте нет акцента на какой-нибудь внутриигровой магазин с броней и оружием, ведь в самой игре, этого добра море.

@Vityaz-of-Rus

8 ай бұрын

Мне нравится эта игра, супер.

Why can't I compare it with BG 3?

@yotonking2831

8 ай бұрын

Because that would be valid criticism fanboys don't want to hear

@jaydenlobbe7911

8 ай бұрын

Because Starfield isn't trying to be BG3, for Bethesda Games the story comes second to the Gameplay

@yotonking2831

8 ай бұрын

@@jaydenlobbe7911 It can still take inspiration and learn from it while being its own game. Being a Bethesda game doesn't change the fact that the writing is trash and it could learn a lot from BG3.

@jaydenlobbe7911

8 ай бұрын

@@yotonking2831 It could, but it doesn’t need to, yeah the writing is dogshit but that simply isn’t what I play Bethesda Games for, and it certainly isn’t what Bethesda makes their games for Like Pliny said in the video, Bethesda Games are weird RPG-Immersive Sim-Action Game hybrids, Starfield doesn’t have a good story simply because *Bethesda isn’t trying to tell a good story,* they’re trying to make a fun game, those two goals aren’t mutually exclusive but Bethesda is only focusing on the latter goal

@jaydenlobbe7911

8 ай бұрын

@@yotonking2831 Think about it like this, the intended experience of Bethesda Games is to just dick around and have fun with the games various systems, you don’t need a good story for that Only Bethesda let’s you customise Spaceships and Weapons, build Mining Colonies, decorate your house, engage in Piracy and Smuggling, commit Genocide against Alien wildlife, be a Space Cowboy or Space Ninja, hoard thousands of Potatoes inside your Ship, and get addicted to drugs all in one game

I expected a game with similar mechanics to Skyrim and fallout 4 and that’s what it is. I’m not sure what people were expecting

i dont think the negative response is about any off this..i think its about that bethesda are not evolving and therefor lagging behined...there isnt much difference between this and skyrim

@spacedaniel492

8 ай бұрын

There is a ton of difference holy shit, also did you keep that same energy with larian and BG3? They've been using the same engine all this time, something they were praised for one month before Starfield was ridiculed for the EXACT SAME THING. YOU PEOPLE ARE SHEEP, YOU HAVE NO ORIGINAL THOUGHTS. YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF REASON.

@sasukeblix

8 ай бұрын

​@@spacedaniel492 So what happened to the old NPC schedule? What happened to water physics that worked great in Fallout 4? Even Fallout 4, for me, has a better perk tree than Starfield, where perks lock some game mechanics like jetpack, sneak, pickpocket, slide, crafting, scanning planets without 2/3 loadings, building a ship, driving a ship, or just doing something X% better. edit: Skyrim guards' reaction to using shouts or casting magic near them. Can I use a vehicle or some perk to mount an alien creature? No?

You shouldn’t play the single player story game for its story…? Also while missing new Vegas…?

@jaydenlobbe7911

8 ай бұрын

New Vegas wasn't actually developed by Bethesda, they handed development over to Obsidian, as such it also wasn't written by Bethesda Also you've missed the point, Bethesda games aren't about the story, like Pliny said in the video, Bethesda Games are weird RPG-Immersive Sim-Action Game hybrids, that's what Bethesda games are, some Bethesda Games like Morrowind and Daggerfall have decent stories, but ever since Arena you could tell that has *never* been the focus of Bethesda Games

@hengineer

8 ай бұрын

BGS games ARENT single player story games, they are single player sandbox RPGs. While there ARE stories, the main focus is the world/universe/sandbox itself.

@gabemissouri

8 ай бұрын

I'm an new vegas fanboy and I love starfield.

@critickman

4 ай бұрын

@@gabemissouriyou are a rare breed Take care of your self The internet is a dangerous place

@gabemissouri

4 ай бұрын

@@critickman I changed my mind about the game 4 months ago lol. I now agree the game is trash.

My experience so far, is it takes awhile to get you hooked. I put it off after a short run when it was released, and revisited it recently. I'm hooked. There's so many aspects of the game that aren't visible right away. I.E. Skills changing or adding to the interface, advanced outpost building or ship building. The faction quests are super well done, detailed, and epic. There's always something fun to do. They do need to add a lot of QOL things, and land based vehicles, though.

This was the first Bethesda game I hated - story, gameplay, setting, immersion, literally nothing hit. Played for a dozen hours and didn't find anything memorable.

You speak for me as well. I think the word "boring" is telling. Not, "I am finding the game boring" but "the game is boring". Well, that just isn't true for everybody. The game is not boring me and it doesn't sound like it is boring you and there are plenty of people in the comments who are also not being bored.

@johndeighan2495

8 ай бұрын

Sure but, to my mind, if you’re in game design and a large section of your customer base thinks your game is boring, that’s worth thinking about. “Skyrim is boring” isn’t really a meme. So there’s something in the complaint, even if you don’t relate to it.

@tassey

8 ай бұрын

I can see that. Seems to be a large number of people in that category.@@johndeighan2495

@kewa_design

8 ай бұрын

@@johndeighan2495this is not really how Game Devs think :) we see the positive feedback, we look at sales and playtime, we usually don't care about reviews if this isn't conflicting with sales. If there is a high enough playerbase and sales are great (and starfield sales are still top notch making it one of the best selling games in 2023) there is no reason to rethink design choices. I'm pretty sure who thinks BGS Games are boring in general will be disappointed by TES6 as well since I expect a lot of the same Formular here as well, no I even hope so !

@johndeighan2495

8 ай бұрын

@@kewa_design Really? I don't think you speak for game devs at all, mate. I know plenty of devs who take well-considered reviews & critical feedback seriously. Why? Because they're creative people who care about their craft, not businessmen who only care about sales figures and the bottom line.

@kewa_design

8 ай бұрын

sorry but gamedevs are not the ones who can decide xD its the publisher, the bosses of the studios, businessmen :D and actually u can make a game thats fun for an audience but u are not forced to make this the next game more suitable for all. Once bethesda would go away from their formula, a lot of customers would leave, probably more than new customers come @@johndeighan2495

Yeah this review sums up my thoughts on it. The reason I think it’s getting the hate is because of a couple of factors imo that combine to take the studio outside of its intended audience. Expectations starfield was going to be a slightly different game that really I can only pin down to some Todd e3 style pitches for starfield, because outside of this no one ever framed what the game would be, we were always going to have to play it to find out. I get that BGS always was played by a massive global audience, but it’s slightly different this time. Number one: the bathesda Microsoft merger. This put BGS as poster child for the system seller of an entire console. In a generation where halo got bungled and they haven’t had a single system seller or really any first party games. It’s been months since the deal and now those fanboys and gamers have to wait for TES6 for anything of note because starfield didn’t satisfy them. With the gamepass comes proportionally more normies, used to shooters and online stuff and they get starfield with whole systems “locked” behind perks that they expect to use instantly. The other group is that this is a space game. With ships included and procedural planet generation. It immediately catapults out of the rpg crowd into the bunfight that is the space game market. There’s your star citizen vs elite dangerous crowd, your procedurally generated exploration/ crafting crowd, you economy sim aficionados. None of these idiots seem to get that each space game can only pick a slice of the ideal imagined space game experience and deliver that. Else your freaking game takes over a decade to deliver. Then at the end of the day there are the crowd as you pointed out never liked BGS games and the same criticisms reared their head when Skyrim was about and we all just said cool story bro and went back to playing.

@ayeyuh6920

8 ай бұрын

I think most of the hate comes from the bad writing, bad exploration, twenty thousand loading screens, outdated tech, and terrible roleplaying. It's a bad roleplaying game, just straight up. _That_ is what most of the complaints are. And if you don't think so then you have had your eyes closed and ears covered.

@levisorenson7873

8 ай бұрын

​@ayeyuh6920 None of their games have been particularly good when it comes to writing or role-playing. Average at best.

@ayeyuh6920

8 ай бұрын

@@levisorenson7873 I disagree. Morrowind and Daggerfall have great in-depth roleplaying options and (mostly) good writing. Oblivion and F03 also has some really well written and memorable questlines. But Skyrim was the biggest step back in terms of that, since then it's been downhill.

@chrismichaelis7259

8 ай бұрын

@@ayeyuh6920except that’s not the case. If it was, there would be no 10/10 reviews and people calling it a masterpiece, which I believe it’s close to being, although not perfect. The thing is, for what the game is meant to be, which is a space themed sim with spaceship aspects, it totally succeeds. It’s just not what people wanted it to be. I played assassins creed 3 remaster, hoping that I could run around and kill rapidly, and was disappointed when I realized I had to use stealth most the game. It wasn’t what I wanted, therefore I could easily give it a 4.5/10, because it’s not the game I wanted, instead of it being a bad game, which it isn’t. If people realized they’re doing the same thing with starfield, I think we could agree more on what the game really is

@ayeyuh6920

8 ай бұрын

@@chrismichaelis7259 Yeah, I call those people dumb. Straight up lol. You're never going to convince me that Starfield has good writing, ever. Or that the roleplaying is good, because it's not. And it wasn't advertised as a sim, it's advertised as an RPG, even Todd mad comparisons to Oblivion. I knew exactly what I was expecting when I went into it, I'm not looking at it wrong, the game is just boring and a bad RPG. If you like it, excellent, I have no idea how you don't suffer any dissonance from the nonsensical writing.

10 months later and gamers still complain saying I just couldn't get into it or I played the game 2 hours and quit or I did not feel a reason to continue,I just dont get or understand gamers anymore and know matter what Bethesda does it just is not enough for them!!!!

This is a pretty good analysis. I disagree somewhat on space travel loading screens, I think Starlink Battle for Atlas handles space travel and planet size in a way that finds a happy medium between games like No Man's Sky and something like Mass Effect. In Starlink, planets are effectively scaled down models, you can circle the various planets in a few minutes making them big enough to feel like planets but small enough to navigate in a way that's not overwhelming or overly repetitive due to sheer size. Starlink also handles planet to space travel very well with no loading screens, players can transition from planet to space and back in real time with no loading screens and that real time traversal is important because of immersion. I completely agree with you on Bethesda's systems vs narrative approach to game design and the game play vs story debate is something that has annoyed me for years. For me games are games first and stories second. A game MUST have good game play or it's story is irrelevant. There are many games with average or lower quality writing that are still excellent games (like Ninja Gaiden) because the game play is so good. There are also many games that don't even have a story and are considered good games (Tetris). On the other hand a game can have a well written story and have bad game play resulting in a bad game, Alpha Protocol is often help up as an example of this. While I always appreciate it if a game has both good game play and a well written story, I think the story should be designed to fit the game play, not the other way around. Movies, TV, books etc. are better mediums for writing because they are not interactive and damaging game play for story is a poor use of the video game format.

@jasongludd998

4 ай бұрын

Starling really handled atmosphere to space flight well.

With 50/50 like/dislike ratio I wonder how many comments you had to delete.

This game is a rorschach test. You get out of it what you put into it. Easily, on every level, Bethesda's best game yet.

@jhallo1851

8 ай бұрын

Insane

@corvuslight

8 ай бұрын

@@jhallo1851 ...lemon.

@arenkai

8 ай бұрын

Isn't that true of every game though ? The more invested you are, the more you get out of it ? Because I'm sorry, but I put quite a lot of passion and care into playing both Starfield and Baldur's Gate 3, and I feel like the latter gave me back WAAAAAAAAAAAAYY more in a single location than Starfield's entire runtime

@spacedaniel492

8 ай бұрын

@@arenkai Did you try a evil playthrough of BG3? I love that game too, but if you try and go the evil route Act II has a 1/4 the content that it does if you are a good guy. I put a ton into BG3, great game, but Starfield is OBJECTIVELY more FINISHED at launch than that game was. BG3 is good, so is Starfield, but neither is perfect. You can enjoy both.

@NotKelloggsCornflakes

8 ай бұрын

Not sure mate, sounds like copium. I gave this game a lot. Everything I give other BGS titles, but it rewards me less and less by the hour. I even actively role play with a defined backstory similar to the guys at Fudgemuppet. You'll find more peace if you can accept, for many players, Starfield's flaws and BGS' stagnant and/or regressing game design overshadow their steps forward.

It FINALLY clicked for me just today. I'm only like twenty hours in, it took a while but I am now loving it.

I enjoy the game, but I'm very disappointed in the facial animation models. The uncanny valley is off the charts.

Honestly all the hate is from people that either aren't casual Bethesda gamers or have only ever played small amounts of modern Bethesda games. Most of the hate feels like it's not genuine and is just made by people because some influential person hated it

@ShiftTheMatrixGaming

7 ай бұрын

Star citizen and baldurs gate shills I kid you not.

@Fiercedeity02

7 ай бұрын

I’ve been playing BGS games since Oblivion and I despise StarField. Not all people who dislike SF are casual Bethesda players, some have been playing for ages and are just disappointed about how it turned out.

@skyriminspace

6 ай бұрын

​@@Fiercedeity02i got into them with oblivion as well & after the first few hours of being a bit disappointed with the loading screens, i started to really love it. I'm so glad they shook things up a bit for starfield.

Holy fucking spoilers. Jeez thanks for the heads up……..

@rileyxsko

5 ай бұрын

Good looking out, I'ma come back to this video when I finish the game lol.

@qdpqbp

4 ай бұрын

imagine clicking on a 30 minute long game review and being surprised by spoilers

I gotta disagree the wandering off and just finding things is the thing I look forward to the most in BGS games and I felt it was at its worst in SF and not being able to handle quests the way I want to is so unsatisfying

*looks at the plot with the Black/White/Grey ending similar to ME3's infamous Red/Blue/Green ending and notes how both games had no functional change between the three "choices"*

@arkeshn729

8 ай бұрын

People got to hung up on the last 30 minutes ME3. The entirety of Mass Effect 3 is the ending.

@lawrencehaynes6408

8 ай бұрын

Imagine having to compare your mediocre game to a game that came out 11 years ago in order to make yourself feel better. Also mass effect 3 is a far better game than starfield is 😂😂

@sagearmaggedon7307

7 ай бұрын

@@lawrencehaynes6408Imagine having people who love to trash on games instead of just not playing them because they dont like them.

@Calbeck

7 ай бұрын

how about both?@@sagearmaggedon7307

@marcoglara2012

6 ай бұрын

@@sagearmaggedon7307 People trash the game because creators lied about what it ours be. But even worse, it’s LAME. The main story blows. The companions have a damn hive mind (milk toast lame personalities). Worst of all , FAKE CHOICES. They fake choices don’t matter for the endings . There are too many better games out there to waste time in this.

You hear this alot. "I like bg3 better but ive played starfield way more" Doesnt make sense to me. Its almost like you cant measure games by pure fun anymore 😢

@chrismichaelis7259

8 ай бұрын

Unfortunately you can’t. Everyone’s a critic. I really wouldn’t compare the two games though

@lawrencehaynes6408

8 ай бұрын

The people criticising the the game are doing so because they did not have fun playing it, not that hard to understand really 😂😂😂

@evp159

8 ай бұрын

@lawrencehaynes6408 them why are they playing it more than a game they are having fun in? I don't think u understood my comment or I don't understand yours

@mariomario-dy1kc

7 ай бұрын

To be fair, not all critics are about "you have to like this game and you're not allowed to like that game". In fact, plenty boil down to "look at how these games have improved on those aspects, why can't we get improvements here too?"

@sagearmaggedon7307

7 ай бұрын

@@mariomario-dy1kc The critics who think that way are looking at things face value. I am pretty sure Bethesda can get a game to have presentation that rivals the likes of cyberpunk and baldurs gate 3, however, that would cost them something in their vision. Maybe the ship builder loses its depth, or maybe they have to cut back on the chaotic factor that their games tend to have. A worthy critique would be “why is the stealth gameplay worse than your previous games” instead of “why do your facial animations and character models look worse than Baldurs Gate 3.”