I served four months on her in the summer of 1967, under the late Capt. Ken Reynard, learning rigging and sail-making. One of the best times of my life. A beautiful ship. Any other old alumni still around?

Great video explanation of tacking. Gives a whole new appreciation of sailing days past.

@bordenfarnell6653

5 жыл бұрын

Late night with Steven cobert

1:00 is very interesting. I always was confused when I read some books playing on big ships (I love Patrick O‘Brian‘s Aubrey/Maturin Master and Commander series und Forester‘s Hornblower is also quite fine). They always say commands like helm to stabord/to port to move the ship in the opposite direction. And at 1:00 we see exactly the same thing. The wind is coming from starboard, the port side is lee. The command helms alee is given, which I would have interpreted as turn put the rudder to port. It took me a long time and quite some research to figure out, that helm commands come from a time when ships were steared by the tiller. Actually these big sailing ships still have a tiller, but it is below deck and the steering wheel only operates it. The commands are tiller commands. The command „helms alee“ means: Put the tiller lever to the lee side of the ship. The rudder in the water will then go to the opposite side. Accordingly: If you want the rudder to turn to port, the quartermaster would have to push the tiller to starboard, so the command to turn to port must be „Helm to starboard“ They kept these commands, even after steering wheels had been installed, especially since these ships still had big tillers underneath, the steering wheel was attached to this tiller to pull it to this or that direction.

@IldenMelder

Жыл бұрын

Once you spend enough time sailing you stop thinking left and righ but up and down

@keithlittlebury2986

Жыл бұрын

Why thank you, Sir for explaining this! I too have been struggling to get my head around this phenomenon for some time via several books and their corresponding films (Patrick O'Brien, William Golding, Moby Dick...). In 'Titanic' they have to turn hard to port to avoid the iceberg and the order is 'helm to starboard' (if I remember rightly).

@abigaileileen3161

5 ай бұрын

Do you have any recommendations for resources to learn more about how square rigged ships worked? I'm reading the Aubrey/Maturin books right now and get just enough to enjoy the ship scenes, but not enough to really understand the situation as well as I'd like. It doesn't seem like there are too many informative videos explaining how the sailing of square rigged ships was done on KZread.

@Kref3

5 ай бұрын

@@abigaileileen3161 for the nautical terms there is a really nice companion book: See of words by Dean King. It explains all terms, all ship types, etc. Not something to read through, but a nice nautical dictionary for us land lubbers to understand, so that we learn to climb the futtock shrouds instead of taking the lubber‘s hole. And how to actually sail a ship rigged vessel is shown extraordinarily well in three youtube videos on the Norwegian full-rigged ship Sørlandet. Sørlandet is a steel hulled ship built in 1927, but the sailing plan is exactly the same as the one of frigates and ships of the line in the Napoleonic era, so no problem at all. Only keep in mind that in the video they use wheel commads in the modern style and not tiller commands as it was normal in the Royal Navy at Aubrey‘s time. Video 1 kzread.info/dash/bejne/qGp4vKuvfb29qrQ.html Video 2 kzread.info/dash/bejne/rKCGxMWNo9CYosY.html Video 3 kzread.info/dash/bejne/dGeet5uRqsKteKg.html Terrible music, but after explaining the sails, they go through all relevant maneuvers (and at 6:55 in the first video you can see a man climb the futtock shrouds - strangely there is no lubber‘s hole in the top).

I love the music at the end of this video. Its hard to find good videos of a ship being maneuvered. Thanks

Master and Commander (Aubrey-Maturin Novels) brought me here. On book 3 and hardly understanding what I'm reading. This helps tremendously!

@michaelbaughman8524

2 жыл бұрын

My favorite series! I already knew nautical terms when I discovered O'Brian. Got interested in sailing by reading C. S. Forester's Horatio Hornblower stories, which also make liberal (and correct!) use of nautical terminology - you should check him out, after you finish O'Brian.

@RNJuiceable

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelbaughman8524 thank you, I will. I'm also enjoying the real history that these stories are based upon. Incredible!

@danbev8542

2 жыл бұрын

You are on a wonderful ride! O’Brian really hits his stride by book 3! There are lots of helpful resources for the sailing lingo - even some children’s books. I like the cross-section book on ships. Also, ‘Harbors and High Seas’ has lots of POB info. The movie, ‘Master and Commander’ doesn’t follow the stories very accurately, but the ship is a nearly perfect replica of the Dear Surprise.

@BeKindToBirds

2 жыл бұрын

Try two years before the mast, a non-fiction account of a man "before the mast" Within a few pages you'll have either had to learn all the naval terms to keep up or learned to ignore them hahaha.. very very dense book

@RNJuiceable

2 жыл бұрын

@@BeKindToBirds thank you!

Apropos of handling a vessel, there is an old limerick: There was a young lady named Banker, Who slept while the ship lay at anchor, She woke in dismay, When she heard the mate say, "Now hoist up the topsheet and spanker."

@robhaythorne4464

4 жыл бұрын

Dear Donna, I'm a sailor. When rough weather is approaching, we say, "Batten down the snatches and hoist the foreskins'il, Mateys." In port we are more likely to say, "Ease the sheets and spank her. Aargh."

There is something beautiful, magnificent, and magical about a full-rigged vessel under sail in a fair wind and on a rolling sea.

My sailing teachers used to say that once you know how to sail a small boat you can sail a big ship just as well... This proves they were both wrong. 😅

@chriscunnane5848

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@danbev8542

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been on modern sloops…coming about with only 2 sails is very different from this maneuver!! I knew the basic principle of coming about vs wearing - but it looks so complex with 3 masts and almost 20 sails!

@funnelvortex7722

2 жыл бұрын

Well *technically* they are not wrong, the physics are essentially the same, the *logistics* on the other hand...

@alanjm1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@funnelvortex7722 no, they really were wrong. With your average sailboat the rudder (not the wind) steers the boat through the tack, momentum keeps it moving through the eye of the wind, and generally you shouldn't even need to backwind the jib. A tack takes a few seconds, not 5 minutes. The technique is completely different.

@dylanmccallister1888

Жыл бұрын

@@alanjm1234 some of the logistics with a small gaff rigged cutter might be similar but not a Bermuda sloop like everybody uses today I think they could have meant small ketch too, I have seen them under 30 feet and some people single hand those. That's work to tack into the wind and some of that skill would make learning a big boat like this less daunting I would think, but it doesn't mean you can automatically just get on a huge windjammer or something and know what you're doing

Nicely presented and narrated explanation. Have sailed many times on the Jubilee Sailing Trust's " Tenacious " but never experienced the evolutions in practice. They were really smoothly done by Star of India's master, mates and hands. Well done to all concerned.

The best thing about the Star of India is that when ever you're in San Diego there she is! Very accessible. Climb aboard. Thanks for the video. I been aboard several times over the years. I always wondered what she looked like under sail. Beautiful!

Wonderful footage; the formers Captain’s from yesteryear you know are watching from above and would be so pleased to see this and also how she looks as well!....Ahoy! ain’t she beautiful mate!

Most tall mast, swashbuckling movies never adequately show the artistry of maneuvering and the forethought necessary. The dance in time. Many show gun practice and a bit of sailwork, never illustrating how critical it is, giving the impression that a ship's wheel does all like a car's! The difference between winning and losing, afloat, foundered or run aground.

@stevenlowe3026

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Even the otherwise excellent "Master and Commander" misses this, which I think is a shame - one of my only criticisms of the movie.

@funnelvortex7722

Жыл бұрын

I always find it funny how in movies the sails are facing forward *all the time* while the boat acts like a car. Knowledge of maneuvering and forethought is even necessary on an engine-powered ship. TITANIC had a good portrayal on how hard it was to maneuver even an engine-powered vessel, on a sailing ship such skill is even *more* needed, yet most media doesn't portray it.

Beautiful ship, I hope she's sails forever.

Thank you for this thorough explanation of what I have been reading about in the Aubrey/Maturin books

What an incredible video. Thank you

What a beauty!

If only all videos on yt were this professional.

Excellent, thanks for posting 📫

Real Sailing, I love these Ships

Matatan.🤔. M™®™ R. Ribirin HS, What an amazing videos very well done no doubt,

Great work!

fascinating, thanks

Thank you for speaking Maritime English for safe operation by Marine Professionals. # HeroesAtSea.

Another beauty

Hauling the spanker to windward does not, repeat not kick the stern over much at all. There just is not enough mechanical advantage. On the other hand, the torque created by forcing the foresails hard into the wind will snap the bow over, fast. Note the very long spritsail yard under the bowsprit of warships like Constitution where the sheets were run out to windward, allowing those ships to literally turn on a dime.

@mastrake

2 жыл бұрын

I agree that when the backed headsails come into play, they have much more of an effect than the spanker, but backing the headsails is not a factor until the vessel is pretty close to head-to-wind, so nothing else is turning the boat until then except for the spanker and the rudder. I give thee people credit for know how to sail their boat, so I accept that the rudder has a small effect on this vessel.

My brother and his wife will crew aboard the Star of India Nov 11 and 12! Other family members and I will be mere spectators to watch this 160 year old beauty sail on! It should be a memorable event!

thank you very much for this very interesting video

So happy to see the Star of India in my reccommended! I visited her last year and she was breathtaking even just bobbing up and down at port!

@harpoon_bakery162

Жыл бұрын

i believe she has sailed to Isle of Man as a homecoming, correct?

Wow… This is the first time I see a tall ship changing its point of sale from a bird’s eye perspective. Fantastic!!! I just wished you guys could have made the wrap up with a “time-lapse” of both tack and wearing.

I was on this ship three years ago. This ship looks as if it is ready to sail.

Well done!

Wow. I had no idea that the masts could turn. 😱

@timothyperrigoue3997

3 жыл бұрын

It looks like that... however the yards rotate around the mast. This allows the change of sail setting.

Great Naval Action manual )

Star of India is an iron-hulled sailing ship, built in 1863 in Ramsey, Isle of Man.

@DeadEyeDave

Жыл бұрын

Star of India is the OLDEST fully operation vessel of any kind in the world. She does not have, and has never had, any kind of engine for propulsion. She has always been, and will hopefully continue to be, a sail-only vessel.

I just love sailing so much...my dream would be to crew a clipper ship

@psgouros

3 жыл бұрын

See if the Picton Castle is still sailing.

How long did it take? How fast was she loging when started?

The world needs more square-riggers.

@rockets4kids

3 жыл бұрын

This video is a great demonstration of why there aren't more square riggers.

@chaosopher23

3 жыл бұрын

@@rockets4kids Schooners killed them, as did lateen sails, but the schooners could carry squares. Square-sail ships are still far more beautiful than what's on the water today.

@rockets4kids

3 жыл бұрын

@@chaosopher23 If there is ever a need to run downwind with the trades then maybe they'll make a return!

@chaosopher23

3 жыл бұрын

@@rockets4kids A well-endowed schooner can do both types of sail in the same sail plan, and if she's a big ship, she can go faster than a square-rigger. Just as beautiful, but far easier to sail.

@radioguy1620

3 жыл бұрын

well for lighter winds a square rigger puts more sail up high for downwind work , so there is that advantage.love to see some smaller square rigged yachts, I might take on of these numerous cheap smaller 30 ft models around my area and rig one up, would be a positive eye catcher and easy to get crew for wed night racing,

Seems most people think that even large sail ships just can start the engines and do any maneuver they want with the sails up and that the rule to give way for ships under sail is just for being polite...

@justforever96

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I loved in the Pirates of the Caribbean where Sparrow just jumps into a sailing ship after the ENTIRE CREW jumps off, leaving all the sails set (somehow, magically), and then he single handedly sails off it it, just like it was a motor vessel. After all, the sails are all up, what more does he need? Stupid. Then through the rest of the movies (what little I can remember of them) they just cruise around like it was a motorized vessel with sails on it. Although in reality, it's not that easy to just jump in an sail off even WITH a motor. Getting a vessel away from dock and pointed in the right direction is a skilled task, that involves the wind, the currents, and knowing just what the ship is going to do. Not any old person off the street could just jump in and increase engine power and sail away like it was driving a car. You still need a whole crew to do it.

@funnelvortex7722

2 жыл бұрын

I think the point of the scene was that Jack Sparrow was not just some random bozo from the street, he’s Jack fucking Sparrow, the dude with years of experience you simply don’t underestimate. But yeah I will admit the ships in the movies behave a lot like motor vessels, but that’s just typical Hollywood making artistic licenses in science for story. Though I think it would have been easier to believe Jack single-handing a schooner than a brigantine since schooners are much more manageable for small crews and I’ve seen skilled guys single hand them.

@barrettoliver2009

Жыл бұрын

@@justforever96 you forgot one thing mate he's Captain Jack Sparrow

Maravilloso barco. Complicada la virada en estas embarcaciones. Puede ser la perspectiva; pero en el 4:18 m una polea casi golpea la cabeza de un marinero.

@user-op7pz8nj5n

4 жыл бұрын

Sucede!

Super!

Hah look at the guy almost geting a block to the temple at 4:18 Wouldnt wanna stand there in heavier winds

@finnplanb3

5 жыл бұрын

widow maker

Oh great! Give all our sailing secrets to the Chinese! Now they are going to build big sailing ships to compete with our Navy... or was that carriers I was thinking of? Hmmm Beautiful ship, wonderful video.

What happens to the shrouds/ratlines when the yards are turned sharp? Do they clear the yard or do the yards push them out of the way?

Last time I was on her was just before the Bi-Centenial, But the USS Juneau LPD-10 went to Alaska for the 200 Anniversary and I missed seeing this old lady get under sail, and went to the east coast and never came back to San Diego. Handles beautifully. Learned to sail small craft up to a 26 ft trimaran in Sasebo Japan Yaught Club.

Just saying I was here before KZread inevitably puts this on everyone's recommended feed.

Well, shiver me Futtock shrouds and Cross catharpings 😉😅😅😅

This is true *sailing*. Same like photography on film compared to digital.

There is a more to it than you expect, and the crew cant stop for the weather.

My sister, and soon to be ex BIL, have a '23 O'day. She tacks just a little easier. Damn, they come to a stop. What a waste of momentum. I've never heard of wearing. You do learn something new every day. 😁

When they called them working ships they were not kidding a lot of work!

@radioguy1620

3 жыл бұрын

always a problem back then getting a good crew , thus the term shanghai'd you would be sitting in a bar and the next thing you know you are on the seas, no escape .

@funnelvortex7722

Жыл бұрын

@@radioguy1620 Problem is back then no one wanted to work aboard those ships due to the captains basically being slavedrivers. Funny how their solution to the problem was doubling down on the slavedrivng aspect rather than treating their workers as humans.

Very complicated, manpower intensive, I can see why the fore and aft rig, like a schooner, is so much easier to sail.

had the chance to walk on the Star of India in San Diego

Read Dewy Lambdin books! Thanks Nelson.

I’ve read about the Golden age of sail and I would love to do this

@jillyoung4479

10 ай бұрын

If you live in or near San Diego you can volunteer at the Maritime Museum there. With training you could be a crew member when they take one if the tall ships out!

Tacking and wearing explained.

A few days ago a read a historical fiction novel on my Kindle. In one part they sailed the first ship around the Horn. Having served in the Navy I fond it very interesting. In one part they were wearing the ship but I did not know what that meant. So this morning a video of a P-Liner sailing around the Horn pops up in my KZread que. Then this video was presented and it answered my question.

Can sonebody explain please why this impractical kind of sails wasn't replaced earlier by schooner type sails?

@astrotrek3534

3 жыл бұрын

So far as I know, schooner type sails just don't cut it for larger ships like the Star of India. There's just not enough power for a big cargo ship.

@billbogg3857

2 жыл бұрын

@@astrotrek3534 I have seen somewhere a photograph of a four or five masted US schooner but I have no idea how it performed. Another disadvantage may be that all the power is exerted on the leeward side whereas on a square rig it is on the centre line. I have noticed that on large chinese junks the smaller masts were sometimes placed to one or other side of the centre main mast which would have spread the centre of effort more evenly.

This ship is now located in San Diego CA at the maritime museum she is one beautiful ship.

These problems do make for interesting sailing. I can empathise with these going about complications albeit on a miniscule scale in comparison having sailed with my father from Leigh-on-Sea on his 20' twin keeled sloop. This had drop keels that could be hauled up if the mud was not deep enough and would sail in minimal water. It had from what I remember a Seamaster hull which I believe doubled also as motor vessel in a different guise. The fore and aft sail balance was truly awful and it was only really ever happy in irons pointing in to the wind. To go about required accelerating in a broad reach which required a really heavy hold on the tiller then pushing over rapidly and holding the jib to windward to force the bow around. In other boats where they just went about no problem it always seemed a very dull experience. I remember the drop keels fooling one poor Caprice twin fixed keel owner who tried to follow our skidding keel-less on an ebb tide thinking we had a channel but grinding to a halt and then the usual anchor and then row ashore to ring home. We once got out of the boat and were able to push it to its mooring as the motor was too weak on its own to go against the tide. Apologies for this rather rambling probably irrelevant aside but it did bring back memories.

A lot to learn to Skipper one of these

Went aboard her in 1981 san Diego

Beautiful, innit?

Wow that thing still sails??? I can’t imagine it’s still inspected?

@DeadEyeDave

Жыл бұрын

The Coast Guard performs inspections on a regular basis. We do what we can to meet safety regulations, but because she is largely in her original 1863 configuration with no engine, the vessel can never meet modern qualifications for passenger service. Therefore, she is sailed as a private yacht, not being allowed to sell tickets for passage. Invited guests are allowed, but the numbers are restricted. The best way to ensure a spot for sailing is to train as crew.

@jillyoung4479

10 ай бұрын

Of course!

Wearing sounds like a controlled jibe, as opposed to coming about.

Does alright for a boat built in the Isle of Man

@dunruden9720

3 жыл бұрын

ship

I have more difficulty tacking my Laser in a very light wind.

Is this real life navy us war 1812 andrew jackson trail of tears chief kickabitch

Captain Goben is sorely missed by the entire crew. Rest in Peace my brother.

Amazing to see this. This boat was made about 7 miles from where I live. There is still a ship yard there but nothing as beautiful as this made there, mainly just repairs to trawlers.

@swami15

2 жыл бұрын

Please tell us where that is.

@Richspeight

2 жыл бұрын

@@swami15 the Star of India was originally built in Ramsey on the Isle of Man.

@swami15

2 жыл бұрын

@@Richspeight Thanks Richard!

1860 style clipper

@Pichouette

5 жыл бұрын

She's a steel hull built in 1863. Originally, all 3 masts were square rigged. I visited her during a 1982 trip to San Diego (she's a museum ship). I don't know about now.

"Right rudder"? Is this ship manned by land-lobsters?

@Kref3

Жыл бұрын

No. It is a pretty normal command. In the age of sail tha command would not have been „right rudder“ (which of course means starboard) but „helm to port“ Helm to port does not mean to turn the wheel to port, the left side of the ship, but to move the tiller to port, thereby moving the actual rudder to starboard. So helm to port means: Turn the ship to starboard. You can acutally see this at 1:00, where the command „helms alee“ is given. Wind is coming from starboard, lee is port. So you would assume that the wheel should now be turned to port. Wrong. It is turned to starboard, because helms alee is a tiller command, meaning: Steer the ship into the wind. And while on these old ships the steering wheel was only a tool to turn the actual tiller, which was installed below deck, on steam and motor vessels there was no real tiller anymore, but an engine was used to turn the rudder, so the tiller command became more and more confusing to new sailors. Nowadays it is well defined: Helm commands are given in the starboard/port fashion, but are to be considered tiller commands, the rudder shall do the exact opposite. Rudder commands are given in the right/left fashion and refer to the actual direction the rudder is to be turned to.

1:43 Such a big ship and they don't have any winches? They have to haul on every line directly with their hands? Wow, those sailors don't lack for calluses I'm sure :-)

@astrotrek3534

2 жыл бұрын

No winches in 1863 I'm afraid. Steam engines were just being put in ships, only on warships mostly.

@josephastier7421

2 жыл бұрын

No thrusters either. Savages.

@poly_hexamethyl

2 жыл бұрын

@@astrotrek3534 I was thinking human -powered winches/capstans as opposed to pulling directly on the rope. But I guess they didn't have those either.

Imagine doing this in a gale...off Cape Horn

im not a pirate so ill never use this info but thanks

Is this the New Brunswick built Star of India of the 1890's approx? If so Lubbock mentions her in passing in his two volume work The Last of the Windjammers. She was at one time under the Command of a Captain Bailey notorious for his bullying ways towards his crew.

@hans2406

5 жыл бұрын

This Star of India was built in Britain in 1867(?) and sold to the US around 1906, I think. Was a square rigged later changed to a barque sailing plan.

@christopherbarlow2107

2 жыл бұрын

Built in Ramsey, Isle of Man

@glynluff2595

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherbarlow2107 Oh how interesting! Thank you for that knowledge. I had not thought of Isle of Man building ships of that size a whole new area to look into. Now don't cavil at that but it is not an area that looms large in the shipyard discourses that are still available. See old as we are we learn somthing new every day. Now it is a part of this group of islands I have never been. Once Summer is over maybe I shall drag my aged bones there! Again thank you

@christopherbarlow2107

2 жыл бұрын

@@glynluff2595 She was called Euterpe when built, was re-rigged as a Barque and re-named Star of India (I assume at the same time) when she was sold to a company that had connections to Alaska I think.

@glynluff2595

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherbarlow2107 Alaska is interesting as it indicates three styles of work if Lubbock is to be believed basically tinned fish, timber or petroleum hauling but last often on older vessels. Timber was usually a secondary use as most ships used in that trade died in it along with their crews. Their are some interesting pictures of timber ships with a trapdoor in the bows that was to bed and plugged shut prior to going to sea. I would like to have heard the comment the first time that was used!

Looks like 70 hands on deck to make it come under sail. Now one person can sail 53ft boat.

@radioguy1620

3 жыл бұрын

aha ! but not a square rigger so much.

Drones have made a big difference in KZread videos

Fascinating, but not a boat designed to be tacked a lot!

@martijnb5887

4 жыл бұрын

No, they were designed to follow the trade winds over the ocean. The wind determined the routes, not just the port of origin and destination. Sometimes to the extend that one way around the world was faster though the other was shorter.

@funnelvortex7722

Жыл бұрын

For destinations off the trade winds they'd use schooners or some fore-and-aft square-rigged hybrid vessel. Square riggers were optimized to travel downwind, they they could achieve good performance on a broad and beam reach. They *could* sail windward when needed but not to the same level of performance fore-and-aft rigged boats would consider "close hauled".

seamen :)

@dunruden9720

3 жыл бұрын

How old are you? Let me guess!!

6483 Barrels of wine.

So not much good racing around the cans then!!!

3 2 batch

ONLY 5 MINUTES!?

@diegomuniz8777

5 жыл бұрын

A XVIII century war ship needed 12 minutes

@olivei2484

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah and we get miffed at at helmsman with a loss of 1 kt.

@g.stephens263

5 жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to know how they handled "going into irons".

@olivei2484

5 жыл бұрын

@@g.stephens263 Yeah wonder what minimium wind speed they needed to manoever in?

@g.stephens263

5 жыл бұрын

Correct, and modern hull designs are a lot more efficient hydro-dynamically. So boat speeds are higher and are easier to maneuver. The Maltese Falcon's sails, for example, are computer controlled with fixed yards and rotating masts.

I climbed her.

Cant beat the brits or the skandies in sailing

@Techn9cian123

6 жыл бұрын

Raphael Smithwick unless you count America’s cup....... lol

@donna30044

5 жыл бұрын

@@Techn9cian123 The America's Cup races are not done with square-rigged ships and maneuvers are accomplished using vastly different techniques. Though originally raced by monohull vessels, beginning with the 2010 race, the rules were changed and now cats do the fighting. Also, the race prize cup is named for a vessel and was last won by the New Zealand Royal Yacht Squadron. The next race is sceduled for 2021, and challengers have been declared, but more may yet announce.

@Techn9cian123

5 жыл бұрын

Ankle Donna uh duh I know all that.

@amdg2023

5 жыл бұрын

We beat your ass twice under sail you gherkin, American revolution and the war of 1812.

@imundertheearthssunnnnow7551

3 жыл бұрын

@@Techn9cian123 Great response. How educated you sound.

We know it as a spinnaker sail, a spanker is something completely different.

Star of India looks like a toy boat by comparison. Выглядит игрушечным корабликом по сравнению с этим. kzread.info/dash/bejne/p6N5qJamndbMn9o.html

People don't understand the wind riders,,the think they manuver like their powerboat,,sailors are the only true boaters

What was the ships name before it was appropriated by the americans?

@funnelvortex7722

Жыл бұрын

She was called the Euterpe before being called the Star of India. The brits sold her off because she had unprofitable voyages earlier in her career.

"Hard right rudder!" WTF is that? What, do they let a landsman man the helm for a fee, and they don't dare use port and starboard (or to be authentic larboard and starboard, which is what they said in sailing days)? Saying "right rudder" is about as lubberly as you can get. Judging from how awkward the guy at the helm looks, it doesn't appear that he's a trained helmsman. And yes, there is a point to saying 'starboard" instead of "right". "Right and left" are relative to the person, so what's on your right depends on which way you are facing. Starboard always refers to the "right" side of the ship, and starboard is always starboard. It avoids confusion. Sure. you can say "right", meaning "starboard", but there is a reason that maritime and aviation disciplines still use port and starboard instead of right and left. They don't do it just because it's tradition. Although that alone ought to be sufficient reason.

@sandyt4343

3 жыл бұрын

That could be the case in certain ships but on our ship WLB 390 in the coast Guard we always referred to rudder shifts as “right rudder or left rudder or amid ship. And every boat I’ve served on or sailed aboard to this day. So there are great exceptions to that rule. That’s covering 50 years and never used port or starboard for rudder commands. Just one other perspective to offer

@missinggravitas

3 жыл бұрын

About a century back there was some confusion around tiller orders vs. rudder orders. The US Navy's approach was to make a clean break by only using "right" and "left" in reference to the movement of the ship's head (General Orders 30 and 98, in 1913/14). The UK followed some years later, and whilst they didn't discontinue the use of starboard/port for steering orders, during a transition period the orders were given as e.g. "starboard right" or "port left" to prevent misunderstandings. As for larboard, back around 1844-6 both the UK and the US ordered that "port" replace "larboard" due to the confusion and mistakes arising from the similarity of "larboard" to "starboard".

@MrDavidSLewis

3 жыл бұрын

You are misinformed. Right and left rudder are old sailing commands. Port and starboard refer to the vessel, and may be used for helm commands, but are rarely and should be avoided. The obvious way to judge this crew's performance, including the helm, is to observe a tack made in very light airs. Five minutes and no failed tack first? In what, perhaps 5 kts of breeze? I've crewed for several tall ships, but nothing near her size, displacement, nor design; I'm going to call that a tidy piece of work by all concerned.

@Kref3

Жыл бұрын

On a sailing ship of that age, the command „helm to starboard“ would actually mean to turn the wheel to portside, because starboard or port/larboard was used for tiller commands. Helm to starboard does not mean to steer the ship to starboard but to shift the tillerlever to starboard, which ultimately would move the rudder to port. at 1:00 you can see this, the master orders „helms alee“ and since the wind comes from starboard, you would assume, that this means to turn the wheel to the lee side, meaning here to port. „Helms alee“ means to turn the wheel not away from the wind but straight into the wind. To end the confusion it was decided, that helm commands stay in starboard/port speech, but refer to the direction the tiller is to be pushed to, while rudder commands are given in right/left and refer to the direction the wheel is to be turned to. „Helm to port“ and „right rudder“ mean more or less the same.

@funnelvortex7722

Жыл бұрын

For what it's worth on the Great Lakes they often use "right left" and often use "MPH" in place of "knots".

Totally useless unless you already know it. Some people do not have the gift of teaching. This guy is one of them.

@Ben31337l

5 жыл бұрын

Unless you don't know what the different parts of a sailing boat are, then you're pretty much screwed with only the visuals to go from.

@styx85

4 жыл бұрын

What, were you looking for a fully comprehensive tutorial you can follow when captaining your own full rigger?

Don't use 480p , this is the 21st century.

@styx85

4 жыл бұрын

It's clearly an old video, ya ungrateful dingus.

@josephastier7421

2 жыл бұрын

They only use 1860's era video cameras on this ship.