No question Star Engine is going to change the gaming industry, mark my words like we were talking about the other day. This is a new beginning and happy to have you here as the next chapter in gaming begins! LET’S GO!!!!

@purpleyeti705

8 ай бұрын

Amen, keep spreading the good word, Mr. Tiddles! o7

I love how many people are getting their minds blown over Citizencon. As a day one backer and concierge, it's really great to see.

Even if people wanna scream "scam citizen". The StarEngine capabilities ( including server meshing ) is an industry game changer. Anything that struggles with server performance will instantly benefit from this tech, including medium to large scale competitive PvP games like PUBG, Tarkov, or SCUM as reasonable for examples.

@WookiesRUs

9 ай бұрын

D’you reckon they’ll share the tech, or keep it under wraps to keep their exclusive advantage? Maybe release it further along, down the line?

@fireryrage

9 ай бұрын

@@WookiesRUs One of the devs said they currently do not intend to license it out. The engine they've developed is a huge advantage for them, and giving the tech out at this time would be giving one of their main advantages.

@AdityaWaghmare

9 ай бұрын

@@WookiesRUs They might license it after 5 years when Star Citizen has a commercial release and matures as a stable game.

@Paisa231

8 ай бұрын

At minimum CIG have proven the proof of concept. And if other studio's want to compete or benefit, they have to develop it themselves. And this is what's great with what CIG have accomplished, and a big part of why I backed the game. This will bring gaming to the next level, and also other arenas where such tech can be applied.

I have been a Star Citizen player since 2018, traveling to the planets, exploring them, going down to "tour" takes me out of this reality, every time I play it I am impressed with how beautiful and massive it is, seeing the StarEngine excites me as much as If I were just discovering it. This is the future.

Great react video! You can see why fans are so passionate. Most features shown are already live in Star Citizen, with the rest scheduled within a year. Game has a KZread channel for updates. It's in alpha with a steep learning curve & bugs, so it's not for everyone. Next month, check out the game for free during their ship expo, featuring nearly 200 ships to try. Ships are pricey but it's to help fund the game. Big ships are for large groups & capital ships will require new tech to run (like server meshing, there's a prototype demo'ed live on their channel) $45 for a starter package. You can get & earn other ships in game. But occasional in-game resets happen (still in alpha development). Only invest more if you're want to support the project or skip the grind. Otherwise, you can just watch its progress and buy later. Alphas are not for everyone. It requires an adventurous spirit.

@aviator2252

9 ай бұрын

i want to second the advice to wait for the free fly in a month, note that it may have connection and latency issues due to a large influx of players so be patient but see what there is to offer, veteran players will often take new immigrants on tours and show the ropes. it can be a great experience

CR's promise for the game when I started in 2013 was for an immersive experience like no other. He hasn't disappointed me over the years. He has made some mistakes, but I think CR is extremely excited about his dream becoming a reality. Consequently, he has allowed that excitement to cause him to overstep. I feel he is delivering on his promise, even if it is taking a while. I understand that he and the entire CIG team are building an exciting new engine that they can sell. In order to do that they have had to give the engine priority. This has caused the two games to take quite a while. I am willing to wait in order to get the game I have dreamed about since I was a kid. The sale of engine licenses may allow them to continue delivering content for those games into the future.

@Paisa231

9 ай бұрын

Its allright you have this view that the focus on Star Engine, have been on the sacrifice of SQ42 and Star Citizen, But I would say they all is connected and beneficial of eachother, as CIG had to develop an Engine to be able to develop SQ42, Star Citizen and to achieve the all the milestones of Star Citizen within our lifetime. Like 100 Solar systems, with all its conent. If you want to pick a scapegoat, its the choice(our choice) to develop SQ42(a part of the pledge). Where most of CIG development resources have been allocated for years now. As much of the assets and tech put into SQ42 also will be used in Star Citizen. And they havent talked about selling or leasing Star Engine at this time. But its a sound choice of they have a stable and competitive Engine. The same is for SQ42 if that game is released within 2 years, this would also generate income to continue even without backing. But I guess everyone has their viewpoint

@BalokLives

9 ай бұрын

I agree with you that the games and the engine were all complimentary of each other. They couldn't have built the games without the engine and vice versa. I didn't mean it was always their focus. I just meant that Starengine has the potential to be a money maker and CIG most likely looks at it like it is a blessing. They have alternative income avenues now and their success is not so much tied to whether they sell enough ships. When CIG first purchased a license for Cryengine, it didn't allow them to resell the engine, so selling Starengine is a relatively recent development. Although I would bet that CR always hoped it could come to this.@@Paisa231

@WarBirdGhost

8 ай бұрын

When this is finally completed, it will blow away the Metaverse from Meta.

@phillip_mcguinness7025

7 ай бұрын

Get ready for development to jump into QT after 1st quarter, SQ42 is in polish phase right now and had a majority of people working on.

No loading screens. Thats what most can't wrap their heads around.

@WarBirdGhost

8 ай бұрын

Bethesda once promised us that there are no loading screens in Morrowind, with their background loading technology. But when it released, only the open world utilized that technology and when you go inside buildings or dungeons, you're instantly hit with a loading screen, which was fully dependent on the CPU's processing speed.

31:14 Further Information on the engine? Well they also showed a demonstration of server meshing at the convention. It's quite technical but very well explained and guidance so everyone that can follow. This tech is relly mind blowing, and enables even larger players counts across the verse.

Some stuff from the StarEngine demo isn't yet available in Star Citizen, but probably more than half of it is currently playable. The Pyro system, the animals, and some of the newest graphics features from the demo (like the destruction system, fire, new lighting stuff) isn't in the game yet; but the entire Stanton system and it's 4 planets and their cities and stations are in, the mining gameplay loop is quite fleshed out and refined and very enjoyable (it's engaging and requires effort, and you can accidentally blow yourself up, and you can/have to use different gear and equipment and strategies to mine different things and to do so the most effectively), there's a very active PvP dogfighting community, as well as a racing community (and a racing mode with race tracks you can try infinitely), and they host server-wide "dynamic events" every now and then that vary between space based or FPS based, complex missions that they generally try to design to incentivize players to fight each other or to band together to work together to accomplish some goal (or just a mad dash of chaos with everybody trying to kill each other to claim a ticket for a free, exclusive ship). If you've got friends that also play Star Citizen, it's a helluva drug.

You should give Bedbannanas Star Citizen vids a look, Prison Escape first and then Jumptown.

@aviator2252

9 ай бұрын

jumptown was wild

@phxbadash

9 ай бұрын

absolutely 2nd that, gives a good look at some of the amazing emergent gameplay possible

You are excited for all the right reasons. Great vid. SC backer since 2013.

Be sure to check out the 4k version they uploaded. They cleaned up some of the errors and added an "odometer" to the bottom right to show the distance tracelled by that single camera.

If you start playing or streaming Star Citizen for first time I'd totally sub, always fun watching someone's first reactions, definitely draws in the views

Most DEFINITY BROTHA!!!

And still, others say they will never do it. I been playing in this since we could log in. Been in the last 4 nights having a blast with many friends.

This game will be groundbreaking 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 when it releases each and every devs will want to make their games on star engine i have been following the development when it started by croud funding

@NightStorm1000

9 ай бұрын

You can already play 80% of what you seen there in the Current State of Star Citizen.

@MyN0N4M3

9 ай бұрын

Tech is cool but their gamedesign is complete garbage. I mean you really think a game where moving around boxes manually in almost every single gameplay loop, you think that is going to ever be more than the niche game it already is? Even if we ignore that from a technical standpoint the game is completely broken by all the bugs, even if we just look at the gameplay and how it is intended to work one day, it is utterly boring and requires an organized group 24/7 to do literally anything. Even the most generic asian grinder will be more popular than this

@Bajtjr

9 ай бұрын

The engine is indeed insane but they will have to implement something akin to Unreal Engine's nanite to truly achieve "perfection". Star Citizen won't have nanite, that is 100% clear but once nanite tech is perfected it will become very significant for game engines.

@NightStorm1000

9 ай бұрын

@@Bajtjr They already use something like Nanite.

@NightStorm1000

9 ай бұрын

@@MyN0N4M3 I have been playin solo for almost 5 Years now. What the fuck are you on about?

SC backer and player here. What y'all have to realize is for as expansive and impressive as this game looks, right now it's mostly potential unrealised. If you migrated Starfield's gameplay, characters and scenarios into Star Citizen's game world, you'd have the definitive quintessential space game of all time, especially if it could remain an MMO. That said, being that SC is an MMO still in early development; it's a bit vapid despite being an absolutely breathtaking technical marvel. Again: huge potential yet to be fully realized. There are no "quests", a very sterile faction system, no overarching plot, nothing to drive you other than "do shit to make money to buy stuff", and its punishing when playing solo. I urge all those interested to check it out, it's truly a unique gaming experience no other game provides (the closest has been NoMansSky). Wait for the free fly events, or pay the minimum ($45) for a starter ship and hop in....just be sure to temper your expectations because its still in early alpha stage.

@ccgod

9 ай бұрын

SC has also had a massive amount of resources either not work or not in the game because server meshing wasn't invented yet. But now they have it. Everything shown this year at citcon is "supposed" to be in game by the end of 2024.

I love the subtle jabs at starfield in some of the titlecards for the video.

I love seeing new fans 😊

thank you

Half of that "demo" is already in the game and playable. It's time to play! Mind you the current version does have bugs and is alpha. You have to realize that. Otherwise we look forward to seeing you in the verse!

Except for the animals, everything is already there and playable, and it's been for a while. The new things are mainly showed in the Pyro system, after crossing the worm whole, hopefully those new features will also be delivered in game in the next year or two.

@derferaw8131

9 ай бұрын

I would use playable pretty sparingly

@s1lentw1nter

9 ай бұрын

Everything? I never seen ships on fire, destructible buildings, nose bleeds, physical water movement, ray traced sun light, and the cloud system in that Demonstration in the live build. Your definition of everything and mine must be very different.

@realnaste

9 ай бұрын

A LOT of things in that trailer are not in the game yet.

@s1lentw1nter

9 ай бұрын

@@realnaste I couldn’t be bothered to list every single one so chose the most relevant ones.

@realnaste

9 ай бұрын

@@s1lentw1nter i was responding to the OP :)

They have a new demo improved in 4k out

Welcome to the verse kryz o7

I still remember the first landable planet in Stanton and the first iteration of their planet tech.

Lot of commenters mention the little hiccups. This is because of the streaming in/out of objects with persistence entity streaming(PES). It's the sacrifice of not having loading screens. PES is amazing on this scale. every object, down to an empty water bottle, is saved on the location someone left it. The hiccup is the loading in/out of out of those objects, sometimes it has a little delay. PES on a solar system scale is really something. This engine just keeps going man, it doesn't stop. It's so seamless and immersive. UE5 is really good on "the usual suspects" like graphics, no doubt about that. But it doesn't offer the seamless experience of Star Engine. I've been playing Star Citizen for a while now and as like others I have thought, where is the progress? Then I saw this video and I thought: okay, this looks like 11 years of development right there.

Star Engine and the hundreds of millions CIG has raised are the middle finger the industry deserves.

It wil be the holy grail of gaming

Main issue with Star Citizen right now is the server stability. One of the core techs being worked on is dynamic server meshing and replication layers. The goal is to seamlessly transfer from one server to another and for servers to dynamically spin up and down. For example you could have two large organizations in a space battle over a planet. The interiors of each capital ship are their own servers, meshed within a server for the exterior, while someone on the planet is observing from another server without any performance issues you would have if everything was happening on just one server.

Most of that is implemented and playable, with all the rest being worked on to hopefully be added in 2024.

Star citizen is making Ready player one closer to reality. Server meshing will be the next step in gaming history, and Chris will be fighting off the rabid dogs that is the AAA titles like EA and Bethesda from this tech. This is the future of gaming!

@voodoochild1975az

9 ай бұрын

I am fairly certain Oasys was built in StarEngine, but been a while since I read it ;)

@ccgod

9 ай бұрын

"IF" server meshing can be applied easily to other games they'll be rolling in money if they lease it out.

@voodoochild1975az

9 ай бұрын

@@ccgod that is not the only tech they have and can print money with my leasing out.... Their planet creation tech alone is worth a kings ransom. I am positive high ups at several studios are looking at this project and talking about these tools and engine. They didn't jump one aspect of technology forward.... They took a quantum leap forward with several prices of technology at once. If they so chose, they could effectively replace CryTek. And be something far better on top of it.

@ccgod

9 ай бұрын

@voodoochild1975az yeah but then they also have to service the engine if they lease it out. However op was talking about server meshing and idk if it's even able to transfer between games.

24:24 that NPC just casually accepted their death.

One thing worth noting. Do not expect to boot up SC right now and see it this populated right away. Server meshing hasn't been added to the persistent universe yet so servers are struggling under the load still. That'll change. But right now a single server has ro keep a whole sooar system in memory and simulate it all. That big an area just can't be done with both NPCs and Players without server meshing.

This is the latest version of the engine that's rolling out in the coming months, the current game is still running on an older version so a few things are still missing. I recommend checking out gameplay videos. One of my favorites are funny moment compilations, but you got anything from mil-sim RP to events, missions or just goofing around.

Join us in playing Star Citizen and enjoy all of this. What you see in the video is not all in current version of the game (3.21) but will be. For example, the space whales are not in Star Citizen yet, or any animals on the planets. Star Citizen is still very buggy, but you get this sort of content. The seamless transitions form space to planets, and back to space. Enjoy battling pirates, and mining asteroids or big rocks on the planets. Even with all the bugs, it is still worth experiencing it yourself.

Star Engine has a lot of work put into it and many Hardships along the way. It started out as pure CryEngine. The same that drove Crysis. Than CryEngine got bought up by Amazon and became Lumberyard. At that point they bought the Sourcecode Rights outright and made this marble of technology out of it.

It's hard to believe that at least 95% of what you see is already in the game Star Citizen. This demo shows the other 5% of what they are planning to patch into the game over the next year. What wasn't shown that would be of interest to you is the FPS portion of the game utilizing combat ground vehicles and weapons with unbelievable realism. The game community is by far the best I have ever seen in any game. Whatever you put into the game now is yours forever. The $45 starter package and ship is all you need and you never have to put another dime into it if you don't want to. Everything is obtainable in the game without paying cash. I hope to see you join us in the 'Verse.

See us in Stanton o7 ⚔️

Lis😅now my awesome legend killer much love let's go 💯🔥👍😊

Are you planning on reacting to more Star Citizen content? I can direct you to a few really good videos for you to watch if so

And don't forget that they made server meshing seamless and ultimately lag free

@MyN0N4M3

9 ай бұрын

You should be a bit more careful. They showed like 3 tiny rooms, with 5 players and all of that in a local network. Now let me see how you have a few hundred servers connect to each other, simulating billions of miles of a solar system with 150k players and another 1-2 million NPCs on top of that and do that with anywhere from player connecting with 20ms-200ms ping to your servers. That is what is required for an MMO to work. What they showed so far is only a proof of concept, as that it technically works but it yet has to be tested if it actually can scale in the way it is required.

@lights4bre890

9 ай бұрын

@@MyN0N4M3 Server meshing isnt a light switch you flip - the prerequisite tech has to come in first - and then the 'scaled' version is ready to spool up and test. Object containers: Done Persistent Entity Streaming: Done Replication Layer: The current 3.21 will be cloned into a separate test server with Replication layer integrated and once done the next version of the SC PU will have it built in Static Server Meshing: It will roll out like the above steps - test server with it implemented and then can integrate it into a live P.U. build Dynamic Server Meshing: The holy grail - allowing the replication layer to spool up or down servers on demand. It wont take a few hundred servers connecting to eachother to have server meshing outperforming what is possible in the current game. In the current game ONE server runs the entire solar system and the 100 players connected to it - so even splitting that load up into 2 servers would be a 50% reduction in the load - this has been 'theoretically possible' for a long time - 1 Major hurdle is somebody would 1st have to invent a language shorthand that can move the data over the networks in a package that is compact enough ..so one of their patents is the Object Container Streaming. You didnt see scaled up version yet..thats to come - but them slapping a few laptops together and doing a live demo of server meshing - as insignificant as it seemed - anybody else that wants to replicate that demo - would need to travel the same road to get there..Years of R&D and inventing and patenting tech - Then they can do your own shoddy - unimpressive demo.

@ccgod

9 ай бұрын

@@MyN0N4M3 He said they already have a scaled up version working at the office. This was just a quick demo to proove that it was working and that they did it. But even so an online game that you'll never disconnect from and lose your progress and what not is amazing.

The current game is definitely filled with bugs but with some patience it's definitely playable i was just last night running through bunkers guns blazing with fellow members of my org in an unorganized casual session where if one guy goes down others will come medic them we didn't make a whole lot of money but i definitely had plenty of fun. This demo and the sq42 videos are the future and not the now, the potential is definitely there the dream is definitely alive and the hype is flowing. There is a lot to do and try now but server stability at the time of writing isn't great. If you want to learn more about the now looking at gameplay and older trailers would be good but if you wanna know more about the future i recommend watching the actual citizencon presentations.

5 year backer here. I'm still blown away by this demo of what is in game and arriving soon. The scam citizens will soon be silenced lol.

Just imagine WoW, with this level of detail on a planetary scale. Or A multiplayer version of Cyberpunk. And this is the progress up to 2024. They will continue developing as we fund it. And we are funding this vision. All of the money goes into dev: salaries, infrastructure, and anything needed. Up to 2017 it was all R&D, since then it is all execution. All these while having a playable Alpha live. AAA studios can't make something like this. It is the constant funding YoY that makes it possible. And it is well worth it.

Hello nice video, everything you saw until 12 mins ich of the original video are in the game right now except animals after it's the new stuff

todd: 1000 planets, openworld

@ccgod

9 ай бұрын

the open world is the same 3 locations on a 2km block over and over and over.

@ThorDyrden

9 ай бұрын

@@ccgodyou have been in the Verse the last year, or just trolling without any substance? A lot what got shown in the demo already is there - you can mount your ship and experience it.

@ccgod

9 ай бұрын

@@ThorDyrden we're talking a out starfield

Technically Star Citizen is the Star Engine Demo.

After SC is released and they’re a couple of releases into S42 it would be insane not to license they’re engine or produce games on behalf of other IPs.

Did u all see the space whale statue at orison station ?

By 2025 we will have 4 systems Stanton, Pyro, Nyx and Odin. We are getting closer to Beta. Try it and see for yourself what is implemented. It is free up to Nov 30th UE5 with Nanite is impressive. But having all the UIs in-game and this scale is not yet possible with UE5... although it will not take long

Imagine you can play it for free right now... and try the ships in game for free. And go and explore as we speak. Try it. Choose Microtech as your home

Oh nice, LG 27" OLED. I watched the demo like a dozens time on my C2 42" and C9 65" haha. OLED is as important as an SSD for this game ;)

I have a folder specifically for Star Citizen screenshots that people take(i yoink them from the Star Citizen Reddit Discord). The folder is over 2gb. Pretty much every image is art. Wallpaper Generator istg

every time the whales comes in i tear up combien that with the violin symbolising them. knowing last time seen they were concept art.

Oh yeah, glad you brought up UE5. Something people don't realize is that UE5 was made for limited zones, similar to Starfield's Creation Engine. I am no expert so I don't know how far CDPR are pushing UE5 to keep their big zones in CP2077, but CIG spent years modding the heck out of the CryEngine to get 64bit streaming and that way completely eliminating loading screens. They even hired Crytek staff to work for them full-time. So anyone thinking UE5 can do every thing better, think again.

This is the "just temporary" culmination of 11 Years of Trial & Error and Research driven by Cris Roberts Vision and the Support of more than a Million Backers. Each Tech presented in the Demo is the result of years of development time by the brightest graphical engineers. Its not magic though and can still be run on normal everyday PCs and Servers without requiring a Nations Super Computer. There are dozens of documentations online created over the years that can explain in detail how they were achieved. This demo rerpresents the capabilities of the engine and are currently not representative of what is playable in Star Citizen. That might be because some of the Tech is coming online throughout next year or because the online environment is not as forgiving as a Standalone Demo PC driving the Engine without having to synchronize with servers over the internet. That said Star Citizen is not called a Screenshot Generator for nothing and can produce stunning visuals in its imperfect state. Gameplay advancements will move into the game faster next year and I am stoked for the new opportunities. See You in the Verse (as we say)

Never mind them Licensing the engine for games, They can License it for movies.

@cabritsanscorgaming

9 ай бұрын

Brian Chambers said they just won't.

When you quantum jump from planet to planet you can stop at anytime along the route and just be out there in empty space, there is no trickery going on .. all that space is real.

@ccgod

9 ай бұрын

yep and the massive travel times allows you to do stuff in the real world lol

@edwarddomenico9601

8 ай бұрын

Just as an aside a player travelled without using quantum jump from Hurston to the sun and it took 22 days. Food for thought how large Stanton is already.

@ccgod

8 ай бұрын

@edwarddomenico9601 I feel like one couldn't have been logged in that long without disconnecting lol

@tallll70

8 ай бұрын

@@edwarddomenico9601 Play space started on 1mil x 1mil x 200 km by CR explanation at the time we just had moons around unfinished gas giant, then later with more planets and it's moons it expanded to what we have now idk at least 100x100 mil judging on today's distances in Stanton, now Pyro is more then double of Stanton's size

Yep gaming been in rut for years not much longer

I _suspect_ this video isnt actually meant for backers. It demos the capability of the engine they developed. Note the TM after StarEngine. Trademarked. This is not an jnternal nickname, it's an engine with a trademark name. I thibk the intended audience are game studios. I think CIG is considering licensing this engine to other studios. If I were Bethesda making Starfield 2, EA making a new Mass Effect, or Star Wars anything.... I kinda think this engine would be tempting at any price. CIG has a legit alternate revenue stream selling their tools if they want or need it. Granted, they are NOT hard up for cash, but StarEngine licensing could ensure they NEVER worry about funding.

@ccgod

9 ай бұрын

Would love for them to give a kick back to people who backed prior to 2015 or something if they lease out the engine and profit from it. But as a backer I loved it and can't wait to see it in game.

All these beautiful images and you're only showing it to us at 720 p at 60 frames a second.. What gives!

PLAY IT FOR FREE , Free fly is coming this month on november 18th , play it free for 2 weeks , not everything you saw in there is in yet , specifically everything that happened after the jump to the pyro system, but its already in game and in engine and being polished and bug tested to bring to live servers throughout the next 12 months , yes its true ive already played it personally in test server so its definitely on its way

10 years ago long time developers said what Starcitizen wants to accomplish is impossible. Now look where we are 11 years later hahaha. Why is the video only 720p? ^^

@ccgod

9 ай бұрын

And with server meshing working it's only going to get better

UE5 would burn if you even tryed to render something like a planet on this scale.

Well, I don't know how technical you want to get but it seems like you know at least a bit about Multiplayer-games so I think you might be able to understand at least parts of this. This Demo was only part of an about 2 hour tech-talk about the engine. Most things they covered were already seen in the trailer (only highlighted even more later) BUT there is one aspect that is not seen in the trailer (and honestly very hard to show in a trailer) and that is ServerMeshing. If you would like to get a little technical about Online-Gaming and Server-Infostructure this is basically a must-watch: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qn-Lw5aQn7fRhpc.html (at 1:15:00 in that video)

the only thing i didnt like about this demo was how they didnt show the actual scale n size of some of the ships and asteroids in the belt.

@Paisa231

9 ай бұрын

There is already a video showing this -Star Citizen: The Scale of Things to Come- 6y ago. And they showed this in the SQ42 video, and this video isnt about the scale in game but the capability of the Engine.

If possible keep stopping the video while reacting at a minimum:)

Yeah if they can get it to run smooth, so far there game sucks for performance and gameplay

@cabritsanscorgaming

9 ай бұрын

Vulkan, FSR/DLSS and all kinds of performance tricks will be coming in the next 12 months.

@NightStorm1000

9 ай бұрын

@@cabritsanscorgaming GPU really isnt the Issue with Star Citizen. Its Extremly CPU Heavy. Lets hope Server Meshing fixes that. Graphicaly its actually quite efficient.

@cabritsanscorgaming

9 ай бұрын

​@@NightStorm1000 Oh absolutely, but if you can transfer what's currently computed by the CPU over to the GPU, that's a definite win ! And both Vulkan and FSR/DLSS have the potential to do so.