They said they will do another Evocati Test at Friday with Jumpgates open.

@RN1441

4 ай бұрын

Nice, if that goes well then they can finally get to having a static mesh WITHIN each solar systems so we can finally get the fps and player cap benefits it's supposed to bring. It's not really meshing until we can interact over the mesh boundaries after all.

@CitizenScott

4 ай бұрын

@@RN1441 No chance they take that step for a very long time. Too inefficient and way too expensive until early days of dynamic at the soonest. They'll deploy a single DGS per system and that's all.

@jackinthebox301

4 ай бұрын

​@@CitizenScottI hate to be that guy, but I'm gonna be that guy: Unless you're a dev, you have no idea what their plans are. You have no idea what state the static meshing tech is in. So please don't come into a thread and flap your gums about something that is entirely unknown to the community.

@notoriouspc

4 ай бұрын

@@RN1441 I was told we wont see performance benefits until DSM, vulkan, and general optimization, and that SSM won't really help with that.

@CitizenScott

4 ай бұрын

@@jackinthebox301Please educate yourself, especially on server costs. Nothing super secret. All the info is out there.

As someone who's too lazy to read CIGs website or spectrum, you're such a good news source for a SC enjoyer

@facelesshalo5174

4 ай бұрын

IN your defence. Their website is atrociously organised and finding appropriate patch notes (especially hotfixes/smaller changes) is frustrating.

@pylotlight

4 ай бұрын

@@facelesshalo5174 It's literally just under it's own catagory called PATCH NOTES, how is it hard to find?

@mitcharbiter3371

4 ай бұрын

And objective.... none of the hopium found in the content from others who do these types of updates.

They really should just dock an Idris at a station and allow people to run around it. That would satisfy a lot people for now... I wish they would do that with the Javelin... I can't wait to get it in game. That'll be another 4+ years or so though I'm sure... lol

@sinepilot

4 ай бұрын

I had the same thought, why can't they just park the Idris like they did with the Jav during Fleet Week

There were some reports of server recovery times of 30-40 seconds also

@Eagle6Airsoft

4 ай бұрын

Recovery time I imagine is linked to entity amounts, this sounds like a striped back version to limit the amount of variables causing problems for testing. When they add everything back it will take longer to load each crash.

@mortalkombatfight-clubsofi9637

4 ай бұрын

That is good though. Id rather wait 1-5-10 minutes for a server crash Recovery than otherwise.

@hawkzulu5671

4 ай бұрын

@@Eagle6Airsoft It will actually be shorter - there is a bunch of data logging systems running to collect data to analyze about the crashes that are running in the background - thats how it went from the 10+ minute recoveries when it was Stanton alone down to the 30 seconds to 1 minute with replication layer running both Stanton and Pyro. They are still dialing in and tuning all this tech

@SaltEMike

4 ай бұрын

It is, I recovered much slower at Orison in the first test than when I was outside of it

Videos are the most professional out of the entire community you guys are inspiring!

a grey market salvage loop in hurston scrap fields would be cool! like how pirelli tyres will sue you if you steal spent tyre off a race track today, id imagine hurston doesnt want their debris fields potentially containing prototypes and industry secrets to be sifted through. maybe an interesting way to garner high tier components or blueprint r&d when these things are actually things in this damn game

Pyro 6 WAS there, it just had no illumination. You could still land on it, had terrain and flora and stuff, well trippy being on the day side but it being pitch black

Thanks for the superb editing!!

Good job bigs. I do all my own content creation and editing. I know how tedious it can be but also how rewarding it feels to accomplish the task in the end.

Always look forward to week in review. All your streams are informative and interesting.

Great job on these videos, to you and your team!

Big things seem to be on the horizon. Definitely looking forward to it.

Thanks for the Monday goodness. Looking forward to the many tests to come for server meshing.

Loving your videos Mike and team, keep up the great work!

I haven't watched in a while. The presentation in this video seems better than I remember. Nice editing, clean graphics, and your presentation speaking was all very good.

price hikes of already existing ships are the most hilarious of greedbag moves. It's one thing to raise prices when they work on the ship, but outside of that? "inflation"? Sure as hell aren't material costs or continuous labour costs with most of em.

@swp

4 ай бұрын

Part of the crowd funding model. Early birds get the cheaper worms.. or something like that.

@aguy446

4 ай бұрын

Good thing it's not necessary to buy one huh

@FrenchyTube3

4 ай бұрын

Would you rather them be self sustaining this way, or be the shit bags EA and all the other “AAA” companies are with their shareholders and investors that constantly push out shitty rushed games? Because those publishers would’ve never had the patience to make anything like this nor would they care because their objective is to make money not great games lol.

@allthatishere

4 ай бұрын

​@@FrenchyTube3I honestly don't get the comparison. I get that you want to shit on all the other AAA companies, but CIG hasn't released a single finished product yet.

@FrenchyTube3

4 ай бұрын

@@allthatishere that’s okay not everyone understands, and you can absolutely play star citizen, finished or not… but that’s besides the point. Being crowd funded gives them the freedom to take their time to try to make something great. Other major developers don’t have that luxury because they get their money from big investors that have probably never held a gaming controller. Those guys just care about the next payday and it forces developers to push out shitty games (which has been the trend for the last 10+ years lol)

Videos once a week or every second week if there is little content, in short format videos with a summarization of what has happened, is great for me. I can watch it while i eat at work, and get updated without having to look through tons of material.

Wow what a nice surprise, Mike in his happy place! The world will never be the same. A refreshing change, what does this mean? 😂🤪

awesome editing!

9:40 Jared: "We will have more content this year." Also Jared: "Dune Movie, no Content this week."....

Lovin the editing!

I like this format, it feels more neat. Thx for keeping us updated Mike

Thank you for the video!

Nice intro effect and sound byte

Awesome editing - I would actually love a "making of W I R" some time this year! That would be cool. Keep the groove up, lovin' it❣️

I share your caution. It’s important to point out that where it was at the start of evo vs now, it’s improved a lot really fast… but, lack of personal hangars, serious lag and several glitches. Compare this to 3.18 ptu which by this stage was pretty stable and running smooth! But I have faith… I imagine it’s the instances that are causing trouble…

Keep these Weekly Vids going, they are pretty much my only source of SC information these days!

That grav lev track makes me think of Wave Race 64.

@IrisCorven

4 ай бұрын

Oddly enough, my first thought was Jet Moto 2!

0:06 Ayyy SaltEMike went back to the future!

Hell yea Mike. I love the editing. I can’t wait for 3.23 ptu

I am new to this project, but these summaries are very useful. I also find it funny how different the tone is to some of your other content, such as reacts. I queue these up along with Bored Gamer videos, but not your other style videos. Just providing some feedback. Hope it helps.

As a coder and understanding network coding since Ultima Online days. The server meshing with a game such as SC has to be using VectorDB tech to VERY interesting algorithms. Id LOVE to walk through it all line by line. I worked on Ultima Online server emulator building file loads and Field of View loading algorithms. It was hard 20+ yrs ago now days🤯🤯

Happy haircut!

I never thought I'd stop playing but I just have SC fatigue now, feel like it started in 3.18 for me. Appreciate you Mike thanks for staying strong and keeping us updated always. I'll be back to fly my polaris no doubt.

@martinskoog1777

4 ай бұрын

Dude. It's just a graphic demo. Stop sobbing.

Another 5 years and static server meshign will be working. I already nearly died unrelated to but while waiting for SC to release after backing in Oct'2012.

Shoutout to the editor

Did Mike actually call something in game fun? Are you okay? Is CR in the room with you?

"Snipers are too strong" IN WHAT WORLD?! They don't even work properly!! XD

thanks for what you do Mike

The biggest thing I heard about the meshing test is that while the Stanton side crashed, there was no impact on the pyro side. Does raise the future question of what happens when you jump to a crashed server though.

This is exciting news to hear, but I need to see it in game in the PU but I am more hopeful than what I was !

I'm guessing the Hornet is going up as they will be releasing the ability to finally apply that upgrade package a bunch of us got like a decade ago to upgrade the chassis to the new mark.

Mike, thanks for the unbiased reporting. Your opinions and insight are always interesting BTW, you should add a Thanks button. Just sayin....

Wait, you had fun playing??! Hell froze boys!

Probably raising the price because they are planning on doing a Gold Ticket event for the F7A Hornet.

Aurora Borealis - great track!!

@MrBiggz_o7

4 ай бұрын

Dude knows his stuff.

I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that things go smoothly with the jumpgates, but more so that they can then rapidly move to having a few static mesh servers over each solar system to finally let the player cap climb to an MMO level, and the server frame-rates rise simultaneously to a heady 10+fps sustained. Until they optimize the servers the limit would still be 1v1 idris vs idris with a couple smaller escorts each per area of the mesh, but it would still be a big improvement over what's there now.

Its been a rough ride but cig couldnt have pulled this off without the streaming community keeping up the hype.

Gravlev looks really fun. I really ought to get myself some joysticks. Really enjoy these weekly updates. Server meshing is huge. The highlight of this week. Otherwise it's been a slow one lol.

They are raising the price on the Hornet before the Nerf it.

Never seen this dude so hyped

Mike going back to his racing game roots!?

CIG is making him into SweetEMike finally!! good to see! xD

Boost pack jet packs like starfield? Picture a sideways skip with a kartwheel while youre shooting. Hover bikes cause too many crash explosions.

I say good for them for taking a break to see the one nerd movie that actually celebrates the original story instead what we've been getting. Taking a break for Dune = taking a break for Larian and/or every studio who actually loves the stories, movies, or games they build. Let's take the time to celebrate the artists with vision so expansive they come up with things like SC o7.... plus it's def gotta count as sci-fi content and design research ;)

Anyone know how I can find Zac Preece's post on spectrum?

Whatever happened to the mk2 of the hornet? 0.o

According to CiG this afternoon, i think the test was considered a great success

Server meshing was also coming "a year ago" and "two years ago" and "three years ago". What makes this time so special?

Raising prices makes sense, though still isn't cool, if you remember what the real reason for selling, or "pledging for", ships is. It's to fund the development of the game. These prices aren't based on what the work being put in creating the ship would cost, it's based on getting as much money for development as possible. So while inflation doesn't really have that much impact on the costs of an already developed ship, it still impacts the price of everything about development. So when inflation rises, prices also rise for ships. That being said, it doesn't really excuse their habits of the, generously called, "deceptive marketing" they like to get up to when it comes to the current state of the aPU. Especially towards people on the outside of the SC community sphere. I mean, have you seen the adds they ran on youtube like a month ago? Makes it look like an almost finished game. The fact that in game footage (recorded on in studio servers probably) looks about as good as their prerendered stuff doesn't really help in the confusion of what is and isn't gameplay and where the game actually is. Been a backer for 9 years now and wouldn't mind waiting 9 more years or more if that's what it takes to finish the game. It's just so interesting to get to see this much about the process of development at a company and game of this scale, especially as someone currently studying game development. But what I can't stand is seeing CIG continue to give these optimistic best-case-scenario timelines, for what feels like just to keep the hype alive. And sure, some of this is the community hyping up some offhand statement a dev made about some feature that hasn't even been 100% nailed down in design, but it sometimes feels like they're encouraging these kinds of misunderstandings since it's free marketing they easily can go back on. Even if the game and development has never looked more promising, there will be a limit to how many times backers can be burned. Even things that are small annoyances can really start to build up over time. But hey, they've raised almost $700 million (!!!????!?) for a game not even close to releasing and I for sure haven't, so they probable know more about this than me lol.

Regarding the Hornet, I'm guessing it's more just like when the Cutty Black got a hike. Just because it was old and its prices weren't in-line with other, newer, comparable ships. So, I'm guessing we'll see a small hike now, and another hike when the next Gold Standard rework is released. Hopefully, we'll get an F7C mk2 conversion kit and/or CCU before then.

@IrisCorven

4 ай бұрын

I had a spare cutter I got (somehow?), so I CCU'd it to a Hornet Ghost. Absolutely love that ship with the Eckart mission turrets on it. It's easily my favorite ship to do NPC bounties in.

Reason why they're raising the price is since we're losing the minus 1 on gimbals. The hornet is gonna be running around with a size 5 gimbal. Who doesn't want vanguard DPS for half the price

I know why they raised the price of the Hornet. Its called greed

fck isc, Dune part II was great! ty for the summary SaltE

Cancelling SCL to watch Dune part 2 is a really W move

I bet they increase the F7C's to $150-170 and drop the MK2 Hornet with a ticket event similar to the F8C at $200

I believe the Hornet price increase it's because they are going to release an updated version with the golden pass, coming from SQ42. That's the only reason I see. And if true (big if true) I'm afraid they gonna do the same to other ships as well, like the Avenger Titan, Constellation series, so on.

@IrisCorven

4 ай бұрын

To be fair, the Titan would be well worth a $10-$15 hike, if they would just get around to revamping the damn thing already. It's one of the most ancient of ancients - good for everything, but an absolute garbage pile to look at, now that we have stuff like the Syulen, Cutter, etc.

They're nerfing the P6LR!? First the TTK and no this. Why are they doing this? It a 50 cal sniper rifle!

Is server meshing coming? Dunno, but it is breathing hard.

CIG devs skipping a Star Citizen video to instead go watch a movie with a giant sandworm in it does have a bit of a poetic irony side to it lol Or the fact that we could get 2 full movies (with a pandemic in the middle) about giant sandworms faster than we could get the sandworm they demoed for us in game lol. Sometimes you just have to laugh

2 mins isn’t bad to spool a new server with the number entities and players.

As usual CIG does price hike to destroy common CCU chsin they people rely on leaving ships in buy back. My guess: F-7C 120$ (no more Nova Jump) F7C-S 135$ (no more FL Dur jump), F7C-R 150$ (no more 140$ option for new ship upcoming at 150$). Chris is money hungry and is after us!

What was meshed in that server test? You couldn't travel between systems. You couldn't chat between systems. What was interacting between two systems? In what way was there meshing happening?

@aguy446

4 ай бұрын

Replication layer

@hawkzulu5671

4 ай бұрын

2 servers were connected via the replication layer. If I load up SC right now there will just be the server itself running stanton w/ no replication layer involved. Friday the next test will be with the jump gates enabled so players will be jumping between Stanton and Pyro. Replication layer + 1 server for each system

Replication layer isn't server meshing. I'm sure they are related they serve different functions.

@raptorkysen177

4 ай бұрын

Two servers on one replication layer is server meshing

@raptorkysen177

4 ай бұрын

@@Abyssdiver yes it is and you have no argument

@honorabledodger

4 ай бұрын

Replication Layer has a function and that is to spool up a new server after the server has crashed. Server meshing has a different function. That is to have a server look after a small area and then to have it seamed up against another server in a perceived seamless way. @@raptorkysen177

@yeawhateverdudesure

4 ай бұрын

​@@AbyssdiverNo it hasn't lmfao 😂

@raptorkysen177

4 ай бұрын

@@Abyssdiver hou have no clue on what you're talking about First of all this test allowed 200 players per shard , so 100 players for each Server Secondly server meshing has nothing to do with one planet or cities Server meshing is Server meshing no matter it's one server runing a city, one , planet or an entiere system Server meshing in a game is about connecting multiple game servers in a game session communicating data with each other Communication can be in real time or not Communication can only be about sharing character data , inventories or sharing entiere game state For most online games there is only one Server per game session Only few games can use multiple servers per game session But none of them are near what SC acheived in this initial test SC is the only game with their unique server meshing design and architecture allowing multiple games servers sharing the same replication in real Time Which means it's the first game sharing seamlessly full game states replication between multiple servers in Real Time inside a game session Other games having multiple servers per shard only have partial replication between game servers with each server having their own instance of replication code It seems you don't know anything about game online tech

Damn they’re nerfing my P6? That’s a shame. Now give me the P8-AR

Whats everyone's guess on when will this update drop??

You know what kept me from going to jumptown? Having to play bunker busters to get decent weapons to use, so THAT was a time sink... and then having to go to a different place to get a ground vehicle to use... Its too cumbersome for me to do the things I want to do in order to play JumpTown. Its too much of a time sink just to do simple shit.

@RangerxTurbo

4 ай бұрын

😂what keeps me is the amount of people camping it in every single server. 🤷‍♂️sorry for my playstyle it's 0 fun to get killed by a camper 24/7 for trying to play a point in game. Hope with pyro any killing in stanton becomes illegal and they have tons of ai. You always see 2-5 people in chat complaining about campers. And if they actually want to build a big community they will do something otherwise it will never be a community like wow or starfield is and that says alot for a 7 year plus game

@sudonix5923

4 ай бұрын

@@RangerxTurbo Star Field isn't fun though. I understand wow but starfield... Eh

@RangerxTurbo

4 ай бұрын

@@sudonix5923 my point is starfield even if it is trash still has a bigger base than this game. Which came out over 7 years ago.

@sudonix5923

4 ай бұрын

@@RangerxTurbo I dunno... This game is raising more and more money each year... More and more people are investing in it. Whether or not they play regularly. I think the base is bigger than you think.

@RangerxTurbo

4 ай бұрын

@@sudonix5923 oh it is. Was meaning no hate to you or others here i just get those days sometimes when i lash out from dealing with too many bugs and losing loot from crashes and stuff. So sorry if i sounded too rude or anything ❤️ was just a bad day for me and i did take it out on some in a non professional way.

uhh hearing it in this news again, the sandworm was no foreshadowing of the worm coming into the game soon? It was because they take time off and watch a movie? What a d*** move...

@derjadebaum9159

4 ай бұрын

I'm not against them taking time off, but thats pretty much showing a filet to someone who is hungry because you are going to a restaurant.

The only medicine ship that's useful in masternodes right now is the buccaneer cause you can choose when the fight them and when to come in for your straight run Everything else is too slow😊

posts video, straight back to grav lev racing I bet

@SaltEMike

4 ай бұрын

Check the leaderboards… 1/2 a second faster

@hephaestion12

4 ай бұрын

@@SaltEMike lol

JT needs to be balanced with ship and comdity prices. JT used to be fun because of how much each unit would cost, but simply nerfing JT with out doing something about prices over all, is meanless. also, a lot of player are sitting on millions of credit and have nothing to do with it. make the 890 890million credits, the carrack 400million or something, increase prices until econ balancese out. it not like we can't rent ships in game for a cheap price either.

My account turned 11 years old last week, I'm glad to see real progress being made again. I figured with SQ42 having the bulk of the work done they'd get us some love on the PU, thank you for the easily digestible updates

I suspect the test is mainly about seeing whether one RL can communicate with two different systems without exploding. If that is the case, the test was definitely a success. Despite the jump gates not being usable, there was information being passed back and forth. There were reports of erroneously having missions available in the wrong system. I guess that means the RL had some difficulty keeping all the missions assigned correctly. Having the Pyro specific missions intentionally disabled made spotting this issue a lot easier. The RL didn't detonate. The RL didn't slow down to 13 minute lag between actions (we have seen that one before!) Entities and missions mostly were kept seperate. For an Evo test, that is actually an amazing result. I am looking forward to the next test. :)

I really hope they wipe all with the next patch. Economy in game right now is so screwed :D

New player here seeking a genuine answer. The game runs like dirt with 100 player servers. Why on earth are they trying to mesh and make them larger? Shouldn't they get it right with 100 people first? I appreciate the insane ambition in this game, but if it runs like shit none of this matters.

@IrisCorven

4 ай бұрын

The thing with meshing and replication layer is that it will dedicate shards to specific chunks of the server, meaning while - yes, you now have the capacity for more players in each area - you also now have more of that server stress offloaded on individual servers handling specific chunks, instead of one server handling it all.

As long as server meshing has been coming, server meshing is probably the only thing to ever get tired of coming.

Absolutely. Go see Dune. After work. Your one job is to throw together a short conversational podcast once a week. It's not that deep. But that's CIG for you, so whatever.

@allthatishere

4 ай бұрын

They're still working on the tech for the podcast, so give them a break, man.

@CitizenScott

4 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@RangerxTurbo

4 ай бұрын

Even there customer service is worse than blizzards 😂 that should tell you all you need to know

From a standpoint of being a independent contractor, I think them canceling a ISC for a movie night is imho BS! that's what you do in your free time, not in normal work hours. No excuse really

@SaltEMike

4 ай бұрын

So you don’t take a day off ever?

@RangerxTurbo

4 ай бұрын

​@@SaltEMikeday off? 😂 server meshing has been teased for years and all they add instead of bug fixes is more ships and more bugs. They always have a day off. Hell even their customer service is one of the worst in the industry. Imagine saying you can't tell when someone gets a ban or you do 🤷‍♂️ when even cod a horrible company tells you that's quite pathetic

10 yrs and "made in alpha" is an excuse

i really don't get, why they don't just start going for complicated simplicity in this game. Rust is a perfect example of all the work that has been done to it. 3.23 is a very good start stuff that should have been added about 6 years ago. instead they want cool looking stuff that doesn't really function in a flowing gameplay. Most every aspect implemented right now is just a stale glitchy half the time broken gameplay loop.

@IrisCorven

4 ай бұрын

Welcome to how Chris Roberts dreams up games. Cool, then functional. I swear, were he not at the helm still, the game development would be shooting along.

LOL server mesh is coming. 😂 Like it was comkng ten years ago. Or how about last year "be the end of the year". Clickety click bait. Pish that button again.

We like the positive video... not your snarky and salts videos!

Are u salty Mike?

@CitizenScott

4 ай бұрын

No, he's SaltEMike.

@L.Bomrek

4 ай бұрын

Are you salty, Mike?

yawn

Server meshing is core tech in EVERY MMO....11 years later...nothing CIG is terrible 💩

@weisthor0815

4 ай бұрын

no, it´s absolutely not

@georgek2574

4 ай бұрын

comparing other MMOs server meshing to SC is like comparing a Toyota echo to a Bugatti Bolide. The tech and engineering going into it is on a totally different level.

@RangerxTurbo

4 ай бұрын

​@@georgek2574sc is like an altima not a bugatti. 😂 sorry 🤷‍♂️ they teased squadron 42 for years and still not out just a big joke

@georgek2574

4 ай бұрын

@@RangerxTurbo you know games take years to make right?

@RangerxTurbo

4 ай бұрын

@@georgek2574 yeah which ones take more than 7 still in alpha? 😂 even gta 6 is coming out and hasnt even been close to how long star citizen has been in. 🤷‍♂️ sorry no excuse to have 1000s employees and use em to make a single player game instead of working and fixing the already paid alpha that's out for people. But simp harder for dumb devs and cs

SC water looks like 💩 old Halflife 2 had better water