Tyson and Joe brought me here

The commentator, Jimmy Jacobs, mentions that Papke won the second of their fights. It has been asserted that at that fight, whilst being introduced, Papke struck Ketchel an unexpected punch. This shocked Ketchel and he took a sustained beating hence the loss. In the return (the Third fight) he took his revenge and gave Papke a beating.

@808breaksbad

2 жыл бұрын

I also heard of that "sucker punch" account.

Stanley Ketchel was the “Michigan Assassin”… Great fighter.

spaseba for this!

gracias excelente

What a fighter Stan was.

Notice how they come alive in round 17, -20. Also they put hands up as they came in close to one another. Dropped hands at a distance. Old time boxing had it's own logic.

I love the critics cause it's not you in that ring for 20 rounds, it's not you getting hit by fist wearing 5oz gloves, it's not you before a massive crowd earning respect. as a matter of fact it could never be you cause you wouldn't have the backbone to fight for 20 rounds just to put food on the table!

@igorstein5616

7 жыл бұрын

Well said there are to many arm chair Warriors . These were the Days of the Hungry fighters ,read the Book about his life called Brutality it is the best Book i have read about a Boxers life and a shame the way it ended

@TheG55coffia

7 жыл бұрын

Mr. Day is very right. We live in a world today that one may just say somthin and ppl began to cry.Its ironic that ppl by in that day were not only tuff, but had great morals and respect 4 each other also!

@catatonicandgin5548

6 жыл бұрын

TheG55coffia .. They did have great morals and respect until Zionism invaded our govt....media....money....and way of life...

@CYBOPOD88

5 жыл бұрын

It's hard to imagine the sheer toughness of these fighters,,, I've always heard these old fighters were the greatest... not criticizing, but the more recent middleweights would have destroyed them.. Hurricane Carter, Marvelous Hagler, Tony Zale, Sugar Ray Robinson, Gene Fullmer, Rocky Graziano, Zab Judah.. Emile Griffith, Tommy Hearns, Carlos Monzón and many more.. In fact, I can't think of any modern day great who couldn't beat these guys.. But like you said, being there in the flesh is a big difference then watching old films.

@stevenwilson9280

5 жыл бұрын

@@CYBOPOD88 I wouldn't say Tony Zale was modern day 1934 - 48, as for Hurricane Carter he was a Journeyman boxer 27-12- 1. If Boxers back then fought boxers today they would have the fitness of todays boxers.

very little of ketchel on film just this fight and the johnson fight as far as i knew but ketchel sure could punch as he proved against the much bigger johnson .

Papke confused his boxing gear with his party outfit for The Blue Oyster.

@igorstein5616

7 жыл бұрын

Nah there was not as many perverted minds back then so you take yourself to the Blue Oyster

@truthhitman7473

6 жыл бұрын

Yes there was. People were gay as hell even back then and before.

@roberts4587

5 жыл бұрын

igor stein yes there was, maybe even worse.

"Abbreviated shorts".

Two tough, brave men. But it seems so crude. No protective cups, which would explain the near naked Papke, and their determination to tie each up and clinch so tightly when at close range.

@rebelliousredneckvlogs

Жыл бұрын

It was a different game, much more grappling, believe me the science was there

Tough, super fit hard-men. Their exchanges seem to indicate that they're very aware of being hit in the "groin". Very quick to grab and clutch in close. No cups then, and from what I've read, neither of these fellows were noted for being particularly gentlemanly in the ring. I wonder if any attendant was brave enough to pick up Papkes discarded Jock strap in the dressing room after the fight. Perhaps it's still there, untouched. Buried, humming away. And why did the referee choose to wear that ridiculously huge night shirt with the long flapping sleeves. It gets in the way and the cuffs get soaked in blood. Their fighting style seems to hark back to the days of the London Prize Ring.

Ketches broke his hand early in fight. Notice after 1st round he rarely throws a right hand.

ketchels 30 rounder with joe thomas was supposed to be the greatest brawl in history, by some acounts

@vigorkomar7296

Жыл бұрын

ketchel knocked out thomas in 32 scheduled for 40 in the greatest fight ever. s.k. was down in 29 almost counted up. i have nice pisture of the very end, s.k. standing over thomas...

@grawakendream8980

Жыл бұрын

@@vigorkomar7296 that's cool that you know about something about that fight.

@vigorkomar7296

Жыл бұрын

@@grawakendream8980 know much more! I even have had the envelope for the ticket! with the photos of sk and thomas given from the niece of ketchel who gave me that along with some photos when she was over 90 years old!

@vigorkomar7296

Жыл бұрын

@@grawakendream8980 where are you from?

@grawakendream8980

Жыл бұрын

@@vigorkomar7296 southern california

Billy is fighting in his jock strap, weird.

@carey579

Жыл бұрын

I would only be interested in men hitting each other if they wore skimpy underwear 🍑🙏

Papke was outfitted like a Greek athlete.

@davidcopson5800

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed. Near naked aggression from Papke.

Was this a boxing match or a wrestling match?

@ramirosuarez4141

3 жыл бұрын

Both

Ketchel has an awesome record, (53-4-5, 50-2), and an awesome reputation. But it's hard to find film where he's all that impressive. He seems like a very crude/brawler/wrestler. He had to have been more than that.

@Section5_CdnIntelService

3 жыл бұрын

Not really. They all fought that way. More wrassling than boxing.

@grawakendream8980

Жыл бұрын

he doesn't look like a brawler, there is technique there. look at a tough guy contest and you'll see brawling with no technique

His real name was Stanislaw Kiecal and he was Polish.

Imagine if Ketchel had lost. His friends would've said: ''I heard you got beat up by a guy in a thong.''

In which round did Papke lose his shorts? 😄

@thomasespinosa6709

4 ай бұрын

He was like👊😠🫸 Tyson, no🧦 socks,🥼 robe, or trunks 🩳.

I THINK PACKEY IS FIGHTING NAKED.

I want a hat like the crowd is wearing.

@davidcopson5800

5 жыл бұрын

The whole crowd is wearing just one hat?!

"Ketchel tying Papke up"? Uh, no. Billy "The Rope" lost every round.

Worst refs ever

"Abbreviated Shorts" ?? That's a Sumo wrestlers wrap.

Mas que boxeo, parece artes marciales mixtas, version 1910

I knew stanley Ketchel’s granddaughter from long island

@robertdipaola3447

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting, l know long Island, where abouts, if you don't mind my asking

@vigorkomar7296

Жыл бұрын

ketchel was childless

No jabs or combinations, no footwork, hands at their waists, little straight punching, plenty of what today in the UFC is called "dirty boxing". Not much strategy, it's all about asserting your will; the ref sure gets a workout. With these techniques why do so many call these old timers great fighters? Of course for their day, but compared to even today's diluted pool?

@perezperez1912

8 жыл бұрын

ask mayweather that. infact ask any fighters thst change the momentum of the fight by wrestling or clinching , ask Duran etc., there's a art to that snd believe me it's much more exerting to wrestle another fighter and punch than just to punch alone ,there's a difference in muscle endurance and it takes someone who is totally inshape to go 20 rds like this; let's not mention these guys fought many times in a month and Stanley fought over 20 rds and many fights aren't properly recorded via box rec ,these men fought well into the 300 mark in there careers, imagine boxing a guy that's 210 and you are 150 , now let's go further now imagine you box the heavyweight champ and make it into the 12 Rd ,then get koed and your out could for what was recorded as well past 2mins.. only to get up with your front teeth missing and fighr the next week and win . if that happen to today's fighters they would be brain dead. let's face it; today's fighters aren't as technical, as smart or tough. they are softer and pampered and have a cuter way of fighting , it's no longer a sport it's merely "show business with blood" -frank Bruno

@Kevintu28

7 жыл бұрын

David Perez yea I agree I feel Langford today would look like a mix of qawi Tyson and toney but could clinch anyone

@samtotheg

3 жыл бұрын

@Mister Wiggy hands are not down near waist , look at how papke comes in , rear hand in a parry position to stop jabs and his lead hand pumping feint jabs so hes defending nad in position to whole time until he can get close enuff to clinch ,a lot mroe scientific than walking up with a high guard letting the opponent bomb on you while you try to close the gap!

He wearing a G string

More of a wrestling match.

Ketchel and Papke never got on, Stanley once said I wish you would wear proper shorts Billy, I'll have to look at your feet to tell whether your face up or down when I knock you out

not much action is there?

Misinformation. When Papke fought Fireman Jim Flynn, he weighed 159 to Flynn's 167. No 40 pound difference.

Did Billy Papke forget his pants

To much hitting and holding.

Referee was pathetic just as they are today, nothing’s changed!

Good grief what sort of boxing is that .Today's boxers would knock these guys out in the first round with ease .

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Carlos Monzón and Marvin Hagler both would have beaten him easily

@truthhitman7473

6 жыл бұрын

You don't know that for sure. This was Stanley Ketchel's 5th fight that same year. And in those days fights went 20 rounds. One fight alone is enough to take a lot of a person, let alone 5 world championship fights, especially with those small light gloves.

@bernie4366

5 жыл бұрын

@@truthhitman7473 dude, Marco Antonio Barrera would have destroyed either of these guys. They didn't have the technique back then. Give them modern training and it's a different story, but if you're looking at this video thinking these guys, as they were, could hang with decent modern fighter then you're blind.

@marcxopoco

4 жыл бұрын

Hagler struggled with fat, old tired Lightweight Roberto Duran. Hagler would not have lasted five rounds with either Ketchel or Papke.

@MC-pz3ps

4 жыл бұрын

Although tough, they fight like amateurs , modern day boxers like Tommy Hearns would have killed them, quick!

Awful to watch. Not really boxing. All they did was look to land the one big punch.

The film quality is not very sharp but it looks like Papke is wearing panties. Not very stylish boxing, seems like a wrestling match with a few wild punches. But they do look very spry after 20 rounds.

Not overly impressed with Ketchel. Seems pretty skinny for a middleweight. Lots of clinching and wild punches. Sam Langford would have destroyed Ketchel in a 20 round fight, as would Tommy Burns.

@trvth1s

10 жыл бұрын

Usually slim fighters are the best fighters. Being fat in boxing is not an advantage. Research photos of Sugar Ray Robinson in Welterweight. He looked like a toothpick but he was 6' tall for a welterweight which is HUGE thus he got the job done.

@Section5_CdnIntelService

10 жыл бұрын

Sam Langford was just a shade under 5'8" not 5'6" as is often mentioned. He took it easy with Ketchel because he hoped to get him in a longer more lucrative match. Had he ko'd Ketchel, it would've scared off white heavies.

@Section5_CdnIntelService

10 жыл бұрын

Saw a copy of a travel visa from the 20s in which he was listed at 5 feet 7 and 3/4".

@paulywalnuts5008

10 жыл бұрын

klmrxz That sounds like a strong source, you should correct Wikipedia.

@devilface97

Жыл бұрын

@@Section5_CdnIntelService sounds like 5'6 without shoes tbh