exactly what i was looking for. thanks

Amazing. Thanks.

Nice! Dumb question: where does the signal go to tape? Right after the preamp? And where does it go to outboard gear? I guess the patchbay gets connected at several points along the signal flow, right?

@goyolake

Ай бұрын

The short answer is "from wherever you want". Almost all of the sections can be engaged or disengaged and routed in various ways. For example, if you are recording a kick drum you could go pre-dynamics-eq-small fader-tape and use the large fader to monitor levels in the control room without affecting the level that's going into the tape/DAW. You could also disengage any of the sections Same thing with outboard gear, combining the routing matrix and the patchbay you can "interrupt" the signal at any point in the path and send it to and back from multiple points. Let's say you are recording a mono room mic and you want to use an outboard preamp like a 1073, then the SSL eq and then to an outboard compressor (think your typical room mic nuked with a Distressor or an 1176), you can do it all via the patchbay. This amount of flexibility is why the SSL became an industry standard for mixing.

This is different from the 4000 series. Thanks for the video.

@ivanjackman

3 жыл бұрын

Yes the 6000 has 3 mixbusses as it was geared toward broadcast, 4000 has two mix busses and a few other minor things, but overall very similar!

This is great... how about doing it again and referencing it to the SSL UC1 plug-in controller. controls i.e. what = what on the UC1.

excellent, thanks!

tree channels are awesome!

Thank you Ivan, this was really helpful. Where in Ireland are you based? I'm up in Tyrone.

@ivanjackman

3 жыл бұрын

I’m up in the dublin mountains, glad it was helpful, some great recording studios up your way!

@eatsleepdrums

3 жыл бұрын

@@ivanjackman Ah beautiful part of the world. Yeah some cracking studios up here, I do a lot of work in the Blast Furnace studio in Derry. If you're ever up that way let me know!

Thanks !

Lovely!

excellent

Hello thanks for the video, interesting. Can I ask a question, I currently have a youtuber telling Me that Reason DAWs mixer which is based off of a real SSL 4000 console is nothing more then a image. I'm telling him that they both have identical functions, identical controls but He is telling Me I'm wrong, I think He is being ignorant and arrogant. In your opinion does Reasons Mixer function the same as a real SSL mixer and have the same sound moulding capabilitie?

@ivanjackman

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Holla Sounds, I wasn't aware of reasons mixer, it has been a long time since I used it, early 2000's I would think. I looked it up, The aux sends, Eq and Comp/gate looked to have very similar functions and controls as you find on an SSL, I think it is modelling a 9000 series console. Will it sound like a real SSL, probably not, will it sound similar, probably. Digital Eq's and compressors these days sound very close to their analog originals. Even the old waves SSL channel sounded really close to a real SSL channel EQ. The sound of the console has a lot to do with the transformers the sound runs through, not only in the processing sections but in the line drivers, buss routing sections and the summing. SSL have youtube videos where you can compare the sound of a DAW summing audio compared to their summing boxes which will be even more transparent than a console. It all adds up to a big sound. I would think Reasons mixer is far more than an image, I'm sure they have modeled the different aspects of the console and the sound is close. In my experience of mixing using waves nls which models console summing with channel emulation plugins, directly compared to mixing on the real console, it's about 60% accurate. I do think that a good mix comes from the choices you make over the equipment you use, and so if you like the idea of having a similar layout and function as someone using an SSL console you will probably be lead to making similar decisions in your mix. Daws sound just as good as consoles, I do a lot of listening tests with my students, and regularly they prefer the sound of a DAW, Most people under 25 will think a daw mix sounds better when compared directly!

@HOLLASOUNDS

2 жыл бұрын

@@ivanjackman Excellent responce very interesting, Yes there are all sorts of variables in Analog gear aven two identical units will not sound the same. ReasonStudios makes some of the best sounding software sythersizors and effects I have heard and I highly doubt they would say they modelled there mixer off of the SSL 9000 but actually didn't. I suspect ReasonStudios had access to a real SSL 9000 to study it and emulate its sound to the best of there ability. I think the KZreadr is automatically defensive on the suggestion that a software mixer in a £500 DAW is just as capable as his £50.000 mixer he bought or the £150.000 SSL 900. He says He has actually compared the two side by side however I think He would have a invested interest to downplay the capabilities of Reasons mixer.

@ivanjackman

2 жыл бұрын

@@HOLLASOUNDS Well your £500 DAW is just as capable as the real SSL console. The youtuber in question ( I don't know which it is) could easily have tested them side by side, they won't sound the same. And the benefits the real desk gives to the sound in their mind is well worth the cost, so I would think the comments they are making are probably totally true in their point of view. Like I said, some people will prefer the sound of a standard DAW (not even a console modelling one) to a real desk. I mostly mix in pro tools, I think it sounds good and I get good results, the recall is the biggest benefit, but I am in the lucky position of having a Neve console in the studio I work in, and some bands request I mix on it, and when I do, there is something different about it to a DAW, it's quicker, it sounds like a record much faster, and even when you do things that in a DAW would sound terrible, it still sounds like a record, like for example, when mixing in a daw, if your balance is off it sounds like a demo, on a console it still sounds professional. The DAW takes longer to get the mix to the finish point, but it's a lot cheaper to use and you have recall. The console is faster and generally sounds more finished, but the band have to be ok with signing off on decisions as you go, because recall is a nightmare. They are different, both are valid. If you can, book some time on an SSL console and make your mind up after that, you may fall in love with the console, or walk away happy to use Reason, it's defo a personal taste more than a fact that one is better than the other, or even just as good!

thanks!

Thank you! Great Video! Do you have schematics of the circuits?

@ivanjackman

5 жыл бұрын

no schematics sorry

Thanks!