"Always throwing it in my face that you're pregnant and I'm not" -Ben Reilly

@spoupsmcdoups

10 ай бұрын

That was my favorite quote from this deleted scene 😂

@_kaleido

10 ай бұрын

Ben Reilly canonically wants to be pregnant, good to know

@kwayneboy1524

10 ай бұрын

@@_kaleido don't knock it till you try it I guess

@sierrajohnson717

10 ай бұрын

@@_kaleido maybe he wants to raise another clone

@matiasnl

10 ай бұрын

This is the only good thing we lost from this scene being deleted (and Cyborg Spider-Woman lines!)

I like that Miles interacts with Miguel here. It makes it feel more established when they met again in the Spider-Society. I also liked how he constantly ask Miguel to be a part of the society but Miguel wouldn’t budge since Miles is the “original anomaly”.

@L._Vireo

10 ай бұрын

Wouldn’t Miguel be the original anomaly since he impersonated himself in an alternate universe?

@tobsonasanya4765

10 ай бұрын

​@@L._Vireono

@brockthehydroelectricninja3144

10 ай бұрын

​​@@L._VireoOoo, well... Hmm.. I mean, yes and no. But mostly no? It all depends on when Kingpin's collider went off, when The Spot sent the Earth 42 Spider to Earth 1610, and when Miguel impersonated his other self. At least, that's the way I see it?

@dgmilloway

10 ай бұрын

The end credits of Into the Spider-verse show that the first portal watch was created after King Pin's collider incident. So no, he's not the first anomaly. Now technically, Miles isn't either. That honor belongs to Gwen, who was pulled into Earth 1610 a week before the incident that caused it.

@brockthehydroelectricninja3144

10 ай бұрын

@@dgmilloway Oooohhhh...

I’m glad this scene got deleted for multiple reasons 1. It makes it seem like Miles and Gwen’s relationship hasn’t matured or progressed at all compared to what we see in the movie where yes she still views him as a person she needs to protect for his own good, she’s also able to view him as an equal as shown in their “date” scene. 2. Gwen being completely disrespectful and condescending to Miles even outright calling him a kid like he’s a literal child. 3. Character regression on Miles’ side like no he doesn’t even need a mentor, he wants to grow into his own independence as seen in ATSV, saying he needs someone to show him the ropes just completely regresses his character development in ITSV.

@njkool8859

10 ай бұрын

Massive agree with everything you said

@jaysax7381

10 ай бұрын

Saying he needs someone to show him the ropes does not regress his character development. It can be true depending on the context; miles has grown into his own from the first film sure but he’s still inexperienced compared to the other spidermen. Miles IS a kid, that’s not derogatory. If anything, it’s made obvious in the second film from some of his reactions to the stakes/the main conflict. Obviously he’s not a “literal child”” but ..he’s still a kid. Pretending like he doesn’t have more to learn is not correct -which I’m sure will happen in the next film

@Leavce

10 ай бұрын

@@jaysax7381 he does have more to learn but to say he needs someone to show him the ropes just like Peter B. did in the first film is a complete character regression and a repeat of his arc in ITSV. He wants to grow into his own independence, to stop letting people dictate his story which is made evident by how he’s treated by nearly everyone in ATSV (Miguel, his parents, Gwen, Peter B.) He even straight up tells Peter B. to stop calling him a kid when he learned about his dad’s fate. His motive to join the Spider Society is to not only be with his friends but to be in a community that he can fit in since he already feels alienated by his own community due to being Spider-Man.

@OffbrandDTraveler

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@jaysax7381 This doesn’t change the fact that him learning to stand on his own two feet is the whole plot of the first movie. He has more to learn, sure, but he’s been able to manage that just fine without someone holding his hand everywhere he goes Narratively, it doesn’t make sense for the story of the second movie to just be a cheap rerun of the first

@thelukeofficial9626

10 ай бұрын

Same I agree with you

I think that what we got in the film was a lot better at putting Miles and Gwen on a more even playing field. In this scene Gwen is acting a lot more mature while Miles is being a pushy kid. He gets a hard no from both Gwen and the Spider Society yet still jumps in despite them not explicitly forbidding contect with him. Having him reveal himself due to jealousy about Hobie was also a bad move because it only further calls to attention his immaturity. The scene that we got was a lot better at showing both that Gwen also has a lot of maturing to do and that Miles has plausible cause for jumping in after her. He feels pressured both by never seeing Gwen again and by feeling partially responsible for The Spot getting loose in the first place, all while Gwen is panicking over her mistake which Jessica treats with a lot more severity. I think it'd be hard to empathize with Miles if this were the scene that made it in.

@matti.8465

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, in this version it looks like Miles only follows Gwen out of jealousy and wanting to prove himself to Miguel. In the final version you can tell Miles follows because he feels responsible for the Spot situation

@internetman1213

10 ай бұрын

@@matti.8465 on top of that, the final cut plays into his battle of wanting be accepted into the spider society so he can see his friends.

@lovverri

10 ай бұрын

explained perfectly

@jaysax7381

10 ай бұрын

I don’t think anyone would have had trouble empathizing with miles unless they had literally never seen the first film; additionally, a teenager acting like a teenager isn’t inherently bad or derogatory especially since Miles hasn’t been in the loop with the spider society. In the Final Cut, he still “disobeys” the spider society after getting several hard nos because he thinks he can fix everything without any loss so it’s not that much of a change. Its not bad to show dimensional characters having multiple dimensions, and there’s a high chance no one would’ve had that big an issue with it if it made it in. It’s easy to critique in hindsight but 🤷🏽‍♀️these interactions would’ve been welcome imo

@flashergoldpower15

10 ай бұрын

@@internetman1213very true! I liked what he got in the final version

This is a really great alternative scene, but I can definitely understand why they went with the one in the film. The two versions would definitely change the tone/pacing of the film overall depending on which one was used.

@etetgg1364

10 ай бұрын

Couldn't agree more

@VJArt_

10 ай бұрын

It couldn't work as Hobie quit in this scene, he quits later in the movie

@katrine8695

10 ай бұрын

Also it seems like Gwen and Miles did not have their "swinging date" in this version? Since Gwen apparently hasn't seen Miles' costume here before he shows it to Miguel.

@royolaniye6643

10 ай бұрын

​@@VJArt_which tells us that we were going to get a very different movie

@Seasonal-Shadow_4674

10 ай бұрын

@@royolaniye6643I want to see what that would have been

Bro even in the alternate/deleted scene people still mock Miles new suit looking like he is bleeding from his arm pit, the sad thing is even Gwen likes his old one better, imagine Miles making a new suit in the third movie to look more comic accurate

@s4turnz869

10 ай бұрын

Its funny because when miles reintroduces himself in the beginning of the movie and references his new suit, you see the many concepts of his suits from the comics including his comic accurate suit for a brief second

@theowlgang3390

10 ай бұрын

the most heartbreaking thing is i saw some people mention the red stripes down his side/arms are similar to his uncle aaron's prowler suit... and to think they were making fun of it is even more sad now

@geminiandromeda8082

10 ай бұрын

His first movie suit was pretty much his comic book brought to life

@bigbaborel

10 ай бұрын

@@s4turnz869 I almost forgot that 😅 but maybe the design team can do an epic move and just design an entire new suit with their creativity, I mean I would even take a Prowler Black and Purple themed suit similar to PS4 verse Miles as long as it looks cool 👍

@lil_transkies

10 ай бұрын

Tbh miles should’ve kept the shoulders they would’ve blended in well

I’m not gonna lie, I’m ok with this scene being deleted. It made Miles look like he still needed a mentor when he’s his own man now.

@metacitizend1095

10 ай бұрын

He is his own man by the end of the movie, tho he didn't need a mentor during Across he was still "behind" Gwen and everyone else. Let's see what they do in Beyond.

@Door3234

10 ай бұрын

that is downright stupid it is very obviously shown that miles is not ready for the big leagues with how he underestimates villains doesn't take alot of fights seriously and with no evidence that cannon events might be fake tries to save his da, he does need a mentor

@SlyMagma

10 ай бұрын

@@Door3234 Bro, Peter underestimates villains all the time. Miles didnt take the fight with the spot seriously, because he has fought and beaten many supervillains easily before that point. Miles doesnt need a mentor. Also, there is plenty evidence that canon events are fake. Its worse that Peter B, and the other spider-men didnt bother to question Miguel's logic as there are countless inconsistencies to his concept of the multiverse.

@estacion7386

10 ай бұрын

​@@SlyMagma"There are inconsistent " The world literally starts imploding when a canon event gets interupted, if anything Miguel has organized a lot of spiders that can help the erasing of the universe, saving billions of lives.

@SlyMagma

10 ай бұрын

@@estacion7386 Mumbatton happens after the Spot uses the collider. And the hole looks like spots hole, not the glitching effect that happened in the univer Miguel invaded. Also, it makes not sense that Pavitrs Canon event was caused by The Spot, who is an anomaly that only exists because of Miles, and was only there because Gwen messed up. So the Spot was supposed to be there....but not Miles? Huh? Make it make sense.

"Hay de todo en la viña del señor" 1:21 I love how they did Miguel's Spanish in the movie, even in this deleted scene

@Demaad

10 ай бұрын

Can you translate what he said there and at 2:21?

@isabellarojas5654

10 ай бұрын

@@Demaad "there's everything in the vineyard of the Lord" it means that u can find any weird stuff/people in the world

@Yo-bx2xy

10 ай бұрын

​@@DemaadSays "Santa María" It's like saying, "oh my god"

@NerveUnderscore

8 ай бұрын

Gracias! No había entendido bien lo que había dicho 😂

@kmi7214

5 ай бұрын

​@@Yo-bx2xycreo q dijo santa marta

miles: gwen, can you... can you help? gwen: i mean... he's a good kid miles: fym "a good kid" 💀

@nopemanpsycho

10 ай бұрын

Ong 💀

@njkool8859

10 ай бұрын

bro I hated that LMAO in this movie she keeps throwing him under the bus even in the out-takes!

@alexoxo1

10 ай бұрын

I dont know why miles is upset he IS a kid. Gwen is a little older than him and she meant it in an endearing way.

@Pinkkittie5006

10 ай бұрын

​@njkool8859 she haven't been throwing him under the bus, it's a complicated situation for her

@OffbrandDTraveler

10 ай бұрын

@@njkool8859She never threw him under the bus in this scene? The problem isn’t her throwing him under the bus, it’s how condescending it is to imply that he’s not on the same level as her

0:33 its crazy how his whole attitude is pretty different compared to the one we see in the final movie. Actually all of them seem a lot more chill and I love that 😭😭

@bombas_unitas

10 ай бұрын

You wanted this deleted scene in movie, don't you?

@sleepymoth938

10 ай бұрын

@@bombas_unitas partially yes, partially no. While I do love how they seem to joke around more, the vibe of Gwen and Mile's relationship with each other just didn't sit right. She was still seeing him as a kid :/ I don't wanna do a whole rant so I'mma stop myself there lmao but yea I'm happy with the final product we got.

@indiesunflowers

8 ай бұрын

yeah I like that he was more silly here. the way he said "whos thirsty" 😂 I love the way he is now tho, i think hes perfect. I hope we get at least one silly moment in the 3rd movie tho

I like how chill Miguel is in this

@donathan2933

10 ай бұрын

Agreed. I like this the most of that scene

@MiyaMam948

10 ай бұрын

Same. I wish we got more time with him as a character and not mainly as an antagonist/mysterious figure with unclear motivations Basically he got little to no time to be a character in between two extremes. One extreme is us not knowing him or what he’s doing (if we haven’t read the comics) and the other extreme is him chokeslamming a young kid lmao. The only down time we got in between those is him during the scene in the lab and the scene explaining the timeline. I would’ve loved to get to know this chill but on duty version of Miguel

@jodihuff3582

10 ай бұрын

@@MiyaMam948 I feel like we'll get more on his character in the last movie. I just have a bad feeling that he might die in the end.

@MiyaMam948

10 ай бұрын

@@jodihuff3582 he’s definitely gonna die That foreshadowing when Peter B. literally said “Miguel’s gonna die” Feels like he’s gonna sacrifice himself to save the multiverse, especially if he’s been wrong this whole time

@jodihuff3582

10 ай бұрын

@@MiyaMam948 wait- when did Peter say that?

You can tell this scene was from an earlier version of the script. Miguel implies that he doesn't want Miles onboard because he's some rando with no direction (from his POV) rather than Miles being an anomaly.

@EonGaming4

10 ай бұрын

I mean he was just being professional, miguel tried to be professional in the actual cut too, until miles tried to escape of course

@DillonMaynard

10 ай бұрын

@@EonGaming4 he threw a trashcan at him💀

@Dorahvante

10 ай бұрын

​@@DillonMaynardyeah for some reason, people for forget about that

@donathan2933

10 ай бұрын

@@Dorahvanteyup

@ma.2089

10 ай бұрын

@@Dorahvante yeah but Miles threw a bagel at Spot, and apparently Spot isn’t justified in getting revenge lol

0:39 The way he just said "Who's thirsty?"

@siphonophores

10 ай бұрын

Miguel O'Hara fans: *raises hands nervously*

@sausanfirdaus9908

10 ай бұрын

I can't stop hearing this in my head

@toll_

10 ай бұрын

HE'S SO CRINGE 😭

@fortnite5205

10 ай бұрын

​@@toll_i would pay good money to hear a dad joke from him

@robertsaindodabolha963

Ай бұрын

​@@siphonophores❤👀✊

Wait! The red lines on miles' new suit was gonna glow? That would've been awesome in the movie! I hope they bring that concept in beyond the spiderverse.

@handsomesquidward5160

10 ай бұрын

I bet that he woukd channel his electricity through that part of his body specifically, along with some special suit feature that gave it the glow

"you always throw in my face that you're pregnant, and I'm not." BEN WHAT???

Miguel DID NOT just stare at the camera at ask "Who's *thirsty?"* ✋😩

Miles: "With 'friends' like you guys, why would I need enemies?"

@jazratchetclank2766

10 ай бұрын

Miles Morales (Spider-Man): goodbye Gwen

@kjdee140

10 ай бұрын

@@jazratchetclank2766 If they kept this scene in, I would have genuinely disliked Gwen.

@laylawindstreak6429

10 ай бұрын

@@kjdee140Same

@donathan2933

10 ай бұрын

@@kjdee140same. And I would’ve dislike Miles too cuz he ain’t some whiny ass child

@isaiahthomas4444

10 ай бұрын

I already dislike Gwen😂

Miguel acts so different here lol

I wish we still got the Cyborg Spider-Woman dialogue. She looked pretty badass and the marketing suggested that she would’ve done a lot more.

"You always keep rubbing in my face that your pregnant and im not" Lmao

Miguel is like the Batman of Spider-Mans

@blasternixon8013

10 ай бұрын

Ìf you never know who 2099 was before

@MILDMONSTER1234

10 ай бұрын

Even Batman would cut some slack for Miles

@joscar062

9 ай бұрын

That would be *Earth 42* Miles

@Seasonal-Shadow_4674

5 ай бұрын

@@MILDMONSTER1234so Batman is a Gary Stu?

@MILDMONSTER1234

5 ай бұрын

@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 always has been

This scene explains gwen's situation and why she did what she did with miles. She says it here, "i dont have a choice". I mean Miguel literally threatens her saying do it otherwise go home and she knew she couldnt go back to her dad.

@rosswelt9963

10 ай бұрын

I mean. Only if you like it being extremely more obvious.

@poliidentity

10 ай бұрын

@@rosswelt9963 Watch how many people hate gwen for turning on miles. Calling her evil or something. Obvious to you or me but not to many others.

@rosswelt9963

10 ай бұрын

@@poliidentity - Never heard of that. Sounds like a community issue.

@Mr.Inktail

10 ай бұрын

The problem is that she has a choice, she's just too afraid to make it.

@Leavce

10 ай бұрын

The final version does a better job at explaining Gwen’s situation though especially the opening scene alone. The deleted scene paints her in an actual bad light.

I wish we got more cyborg spider woman in this movie, I mean she got a lot of toy marketing and she was fun in this scene

@PlaystationFreak719

10 ай бұрын

I just imagine this was one of the major changes after the delay

@kozak2099

10 ай бұрын

Wait cyborg spider woman??

@PlaystationFreak719

10 ай бұрын

@@kozak2099 Yes

@nanomacaron232

10 ай бұрын

I don’t Even remember seeing her I just remember seeing toys for her 😭

@carlopannone5281

10 ай бұрын

That was a woman?!

I didn't like how Miles act here, very childish and kinda ignoring his development, but i really liked Gwen's version, it's different to the one we got, but still "realistic" after all she went through and apparently with Miguel as mentor instead of Jess, it's understandable to have a colder and aggressive version of her, but we still get to se her longings and vulnerabilities "I don't have a choice" "What you guys have is better than all this anyway" "See you soon?"

@almas4663

10 ай бұрын

Miles is being and ignorant child this entire movie...This is why I'm with Miguel

@Mr.Inktail

10 ай бұрын

​@almas4663 the sociopathic guy who thinks he knows everything and is willing to force Miles to lose his dad for a "canon event"? Who wants people to die so he can feel justified for his poor decision?

@Mr.Inktail

10 ай бұрын

The problem I have is that Gwen acts like a friend but, at least in this version, is stringing Miles along. I understand why, but still.

@almas4663

10 ай бұрын

@@Mr.Inktail Miguel is going the right thing and saving people, Miles is saving just his ass

@G-starr13

10 ай бұрын

@@almas4663canon events arent real lil bro

“That a new suit?” “Designed it myself” “I liked the old one” 😂😂😂😂😂

I really like that we get to hear more of Miguel interacting with other spiders in a more relaxed way. In AtSV we only really see Miguel interact from Miles' perspective (I feel like the only break in his "I'm talking to the original anomaly who made my life hell" mood is when he talks to Lyla). Also lamenting the loss of Cyborg Spider-Woman and more Team Miguel interactions in general.

I just wish we had actually gotten to know Cyborg Spider Woman. She seems very interesting. Was really confused when she did practically nothing in the film, and yet they marketed THE CRAP out of her with merchandise, even promotional material like posters made her seem like she would be a prominent member alongside Jessica, Hobie, Pavitr and Ben

@davidpalillero29

10 ай бұрын

Seems that she would been part of Miguel Ben and Jessica’s group, or at least a original version of the film

@OffbrandDTraveler

10 ай бұрын

Tbf there is always the next movie People teasing parts of a story that aren’t out yet through merch isn’t new

@doomercoomer4607

10 ай бұрын

Beyond the Spider-Verse. That's going to be our Hail Mary.

0:39 “whos thirsty?” For the tiktok edits, he keeps giving 🎉

this first interaction makes miguel feel like less of a menace and i like that

I prefer how it went in the actual movie but I do really wish we had seen more interaction between the other spiders, like with Miguel, Ben and especially Jessica since I feel like she barely spoke in the movie. I hope we’ll ‘get to know’ them more in the next movie at least

@Seasonal-Shadow_4674

10 ай бұрын

Will Andy Samberg come back tho

@deathspider616

10 ай бұрын

probably @@Seasonal-Shadow_4674

@yaegars355

10 ай бұрын

I just want alot more Scarlet Spider. Which sucks because they are totally just gonna write him off again, or probably not even show up at all..

@Seasonal-Shadow_4674

10 ай бұрын

@@yaegars355 that be wack if Sony did that

I like how cyborg spider woman is like the grandpa of the group tellin stories to the children

I assume this was the earlier version in the development when Cyborg Spider-Woman had more of a role, maybe part of 2099 squad, Pavitr wasn't as prominent to the story

this scene makes Miguel's anger less weird, it gives context to it building up, to bad it was cut

“I’m just much a Spider-Man as you are”…those words ran deep. Especially, pertaining to Miguel… I usually don’t watch deleted scenes but this one is amazing.

This scene honestly makes Miguel more likeable

you know, the spot and miles actually have a bit in common, no one takes them seriously.

@zmetroplayz2456

10 ай бұрын

:0

@estacion7386

10 ай бұрын

😂

Did Lyla really said “he’s really cooking” 😂

I see why this was taken out but I wish they would’ve kept some of the stuff with Miles and Miguel interacting more. And that part with Scarlet Spider goes crazy

@Seasonal-Shadow_4674

10 ай бұрын

I’m surprised Andy Samberg hasn’t said anything about this role even after release

I love that little slight outburst miguel has when Gwen tries to interject on miles’ behalf the second time. Oscar Isaac did a great job of portraying that constant tension just beneath Miguel’s skin. He sounds like someone who is desperate. Even when he’s reasonably calm. It’s just makes his mental degradation through the movie hit better so by the end when he’s a disheveled, sweaty, crazy eyed dude hellbent on doing what he believes to be right for everyone, you believe it.

@joscar062

9 ай бұрын

*Oscar Isaac

@cjdouglas3464

9 ай бұрын

@@joscar062 LMAO didn’t even notice. Oscar Osaac is the true Miguel

2:42 Even the writers knew we liked the old costume.

@ototurmanidze5578

10 ай бұрын

the red lines

@doomercoomer4607

10 ай бұрын

The new costume still looks great tho

@CourtsideGamerOP

10 ай бұрын

I love the new one better ngl

@kijanajenkins2546

10 ай бұрын

I like them both.

@dragondelsur5156

10 ай бұрын

Bleeding armpits

"why do you wanna be part of this so badly?" this is actually a great question and i wonder how it could have gone if they kept it in the movie... would change the tone of the movie i think. Miles' motivation, from the beginning, has been to be with the people who understand him most (and in a very simplistic way, "fit in" and be part of something). Miguel asking this question really brings light to how the Miles here had no "bigger reason" or the selfless sense of responsibility the more mature spiders would think a necessity yet - and miguel would be insanely more strict with Miles given his anomaly status and all.

Fine I'll rewatch ATSV for the 11th time

I will say one thing: WE WERE ROBBED OF MORE MIGUEL AND HIM SPEAKING IN SPANISH 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

I just love the fact that a lot of people who first heard about the five-minute deleted scene of Miguel Calling thought it'd be depressed Miguel looking at a video of him and Gabriella, or something related to Gabriella.

Tbh i'm sad that they deleted this scene because Cyborg spider and Scarlet would've had more screen time, and miles would've talked more to miguel.

What we got is a lot better

@ccelite3782

10 ай бұрын

Agreed. This scene was too comedic

@haiderraad468

10 ай бұрын

@@ccelite3782 and it's Not Make Sense that Miles still Jumped into the Portal after getting Refused by Miguel and the Others

@ccelite3782

10 ай бұрын

@haidergamer5913 actually that makes perfect sense. Miles wants to prove himself

@haiderraad468

10 ай бұрын

@@ccelite3782 No , he just wanted to be with his Friends

@kinoman4875

10 ай бұрын

@@ccelite3782i dont really see how this was too comedic considering the chase scene was half comedy and hlaf heartfelt moment

This scene is great but I just think the one we got is a LOT better when it come to Miles point of view. In this one Gwen gets to explain herself ("i don't have a choice") which wouldn't allow Miles to really get mad at her and get the same emotions we got in the actual movie.

@njkool8859

10 ай бұрын

One we got is 100x better yes. This out-take feels way more unnatural, clustered, and even a little claustrophobic imo

@KoolerThanKen

10 ай бұрын

@@njkool8859 Lets not judge too hard, since we know what conditions the writers were under now, and this is clearly not a completed scene probably a scene choosing a different direction the movie would go.

I think this scene is very interesting but like most of the other comments I much prefer what we got. I thought miles was a little too childish here and Gwen calling him kid even tho she’s basically the same age just felt off. I just like that in the movie they reflect each other with Gwen putting on a facade of being more mature even though she’s breaking the rules just to be around Miles. In this it just seems like she looks down on him and sees him as less which we know isn’t the case

@Salik96

10 ай бұрын

Well I mean, he's a kid of course he would act that way.

@elijahealks6098

10 ай бұрын

He's acting likes he's 12 here tho

@flashergoldpower15

10 ай бұрын

While yeah he is still kid, considering he’s 15, while Gwen feeling matured while she’s also a year older than him, this scene totally felt off

@ms.divine4696

10 ай бұрын

He wasn't acting childish he was just being himself

@elijahealks6098

10 ай бұрын

@@ms.divine4696 but asking Miguel to teach him after the events of the first movie and him doing his own thing is just dumb

I've read a bunch of the comments and i agree with alot of them but Miguel speaking Spanish out of frustration is something i will miss dearly. (as well as the guy talking about the spider war whatever that was)

@dragondelsur5156

10 ай бұрын

I'm confident we'll see him do that in Beyond the Spiderverse.

@TheInfintyithGoofball

9 ай бұрын

@@dragondelsur5156 🤞🤞🤞

@nightmarefanatic1819

4 ай бұрын

He does in fhe final film where hes pinching his nose and muttering "no puedo más"

I love the idea of Andy samberg just saying "you always rub it in my face that you're pregnant and I'm not" and everyone is struggling to stay in character, multiple takes because of that line, or maybe it was improvised cuz that'd be even more hilarious

i like this calmer version of miguel, in the movie he went from 0 to choke slamming miles in a couple of minutes

Even in deleted scenes, Miles STILL gets roasted about his "bleeding from the armpits" suit 🤣

5:03 ok but Gwen gliding into the portal with the emotional music made me laugh and it shouldn’t have

NOW IT LOOKS INFECTED 🗣️🔥🔥🗣️

I love that little mention of Peter from miles ,really shows how much he misses him

This was a more situated conversion between Miguel and Miles. There is still a part in me that wished Miles and Miguel would team up. But another part of me loves the fact he didn’t take the offer. Because in some situations, the adult would accept the kid’s requests and train them, even while they are still dealing with they’re own problems. Miguel was still and still is processing the lost of his daughter and dimension. Plus Miles’s being an original anomaly. THE WHOLE REASON WHY HIS JOB IS HARD ALREADY! So I’m sort of in a way happy about the stereotype being broken. I love to see more of Miguel’s interaction as a leader. He seems for calmer here. Instead of putting Miles down first hand, he actually tries to listen and hear him out. I love, LOVE that Cyborg Spider was in this. They should have gave him more screen time. He reminds me of a grandpa talking about the WW2 😂. I also like how he just became apart of the disrespectful hype about Miles’s suit. When he said it looked infected, I had to pause and walk around the room for a hot minute. Now for an artist’s POV, the storyboarding is MMM! 😤🤌 The perspectives and the camera angles were wonderful! I can really get a feeling of who’s where and what’s going on! The color pick for every character to show who’s who makes it less confusing as well. Even though this is a simple sketch, you can really define the expressions they are showing. It’s both funny and creative I LOVE THIS DELETED SCENE VERY MUCH! AMAZING JOB TO THE STORYBOARD ARTISTS!!!

@eddygrand7881

10 ай бұрын

cyborg spider is a girl

It's interesting how Miles was basically trying to get a mentor/ figure to look up to kinda gig with Miguel, really would've made the "Miguel loses it" scene even more intense imo but generally i agree with most other comments

I love how the version that we got shows how more matured Miles has become and that Gween sees him as an actual equal, but men i really need more Miguel being a teamplayer other than a thread his contrast with the other spider people is soo funny!

What i like of this scene is that we can see the spider society as A team, and less angry interaction between Miles and Miguel. Stills reflects the inmaturity of miles in a shortly but still functional way. In another universe we may have a fusion of whats IN in this scene and what we got , a greater scene in my opinion

If they included this scene, it would mean he’d be disappointed with miguel when they meet later on in the movie instead of getting shocked by miguel’s demeanor

3:44, Miguel even showing an interest in why Miles would even want to join the Spider-Society seems as though he’s evaluating the slightest possibility that Miles might be worth the trouble despite being an anomaly. But Miles’ answer being a cliché “justice”, his cocky, self-aggrandizing demeanor throughout the scene, and, 2:58, perhaps, him correctly deducing Spot’s desire for validation is also shared by Miles and is the real reason he wants to join him, Miguel sees Miles as an immature and, more importantly, irresponsible “kid” who doesn’t know what he’s doing and could only end up making the situation worse if given the chance (which is proven correct when Miles attempts to save his father, threatening the stability of his reality on what Miguel sees as a selfish impulse that we the audience know is influenced by Miles’ guilt over his last interaction with his parents being negative). Normally, Miguel could have perhaps tolerated a new member of the group with a bit of an ego or a larger-than-life personality and an independent mind (after all, he did bring in Hobie, of course unable to predict that label-hating anarchist would steal tech to build his own portal devices and then almost immediately quit right after the group began turning on Miles) and not all of these individuals appear to be morally incorruptible paragons of virtue (much less of sanity considering some of them are literal animals, Scarlet Spider is a hysterical, broody moron, Jessica operates as Spiderwoman while pregnant and Lego Spiderman is considering one of their best assets by Miguel), but Miles being an anomaly was a proverbial stain on his resume that made any attributes that were otherwise passable an utter nightmare to consider. It’s one of the many reasons this movie is so engaging. Each individual has an understandable perspective that ends up clashing with others and in the end, no one really comes out on top. Even Miles escaping the Spider-Society, boasting how he “beat ‘em all”, only earned him getting trapped in a world run by supervillains with Prowler Miles. The closest we get to a true victory is Gwen’s reconciliation with her father and both her and Hobie assembling a rogue group of Spider-People to help Miles.

@SlyMagma

10 ай бұрын

Very...strange interpretation of this scene and the movie as a whole. I have never seen "ego" be used to describe anyone (especially Miles) except Miguel in any comments or video essays on this considering how emotional, and aggressively impulsive he was, as well as how inconsistent his logic and actions were throughout the entire film. Also considering how many of the spider people were turning away from him as well, shows very clearly how Miguel doesnt really have any idea what he's doing and his ego allowed him to force project on others including Miles. What Miguel did, by the way being not in the same realm, even remotely close to what Miles is doing, obviously. There is a reason why the only people in Miguels society are Spiders that have already experienced their "canon events". Easier to move people to your side when you can have them mask any point of logic with the relief that their loses were not their fault but actually "beyond their control". And from the ending of the film, it seems that many are waking up from the cover of guilt masking the MANY inconsistencies of Miguel's lack of logic. The reality being, if any one of them knew what Miles knew, they would do the same thing.

@chrishardin9774

10 ай бұрын

@@SlyMagmathe amount of cherry picking to make miles look good here is insane

@SlyMagma

10 ай бұрын

@@chrishardin9774 There really isn't much cherry picking. Miguel is completely unhinged, irrational, and has little understanding of what the multiverse actually is, while having the ego of someone who thinks he knows it all. That's even worse than dangerous.

@callmev3531

10 ай бұрын

@@SlyMagma Hence why I say no one comes out on top. No one in this film is 100 percent on the right sight. Miguel and others in the Spider-Society have a different flaw than Miles (who risks endangering his universe to save his father) or Gwen and Peter B. (who keeps secrets from their friend in a misguided attempt to protect him, while Gwen is really only protecting herself from potentially losing him and ends up losing him anyway) that they have taken too large of a responsibility in maintaining the multiverse from threats like the collider or Spot and it has made them apathetic, callous and cruel (almost numb to suffering as they see it as an inherent part of their lives that can and should never be improved, lest they risk losing that responsibility, which ironically may make them unable to always recognize when things are in their control and when they can or should make different choices, as Peter B. learns with having restored his marriage and having a daughter due to Mile’s indirect encouragement), with Miguel and Jessica being prime examples. Miguel is desperate to not let his failure be repeated by anyone else, but the measures he takes to prevent those failures are questionable, as is his status as a Spiderman to a degree (a character partly defined on the desire to save everyone and never being willing to sacrifice others to succeed in that goal). Miguel’s interference in another showed that (at least from what we’ve seen and what has been shown at present) that even something as ostensibly harmless as being in another universe too long can destabilize a reality and Miles attempting to prevent a major event that is supposedly part of Miles’ timeline, the death of his police captain father, would from Miguel’s perspective, almost assuredly destroy Mile’s universe, hence why he becomes so angry when Miles still goes through with trying despite him directly explaining to him why he shouldn’t. However, this all hinges on wether or not Miles saving his father will indeed destabilize his universe when he inevitably attempts to do so in the sequel. Until then, we only have the supposed evidence offered by Miguel in his presentation and the dimensional rift that opened after Miles saved Captain Singh that the Spider-Society claimed they’ve not always been able to stop from destroying universes before when a disruption occurs (and something that until confirmed otherwise, wasn’t caused by the Pav’s universe’s collider exploding or the Spot’s power-up) that prove the danger of Miles attempting to save his father as legitimate and that he is indeed wrong for trying to. I’ve honestly gone back and forth on wether the writers would actually commit to their main character being in an un-winnable scenario where he has to let his father die (Flashpoint style) or find a way to “break canon” on a technicality the way Gwen indirectly saves her father from his predicted death when he resigns as police captain (which could just mean that some other officer could end up replacing him, get close to Spiderwoman and die, thereby maintaining canon but with someone else in the role, just as Miles’ life became “assimilated” by his role as the replacement Spiderman and he ended up almost inheriting typical Spiderman tropes into his life, most prominently his lost loved ones).

@SlyMagma

10 ай бұрын

@@callmev3531 "Miguel’s interference in another showed that (at least from what we’ve seen and what has been should at present) that even something as ostensibly harmless as being in another universe too long can destabilize a reality and Miles attempting to prevent a major event that is supposedly part of Miles’ timeline, the death of his police captain father, would from Miguel’s perspective, almost assuredly destroy Mile’s universe, hence why he becomes so angry when Miles still goes through with trying despite him directly explaining to him why he shouldn’t. " The issue is that there are so many clear inconsistencies to even humor that logic. If he believes that even being in another universe too long can destabilize a reality, why is there an entire spider society of spiders from other universes all existing in Miguels singular universe with no trouble. More importantly, how is Gwen able to live there for months with zero problems. A spider person staying in a universe too long can destabilize it, unless its gwen in Miguels universe, nor is it not a problem for a spider-woman to be completely removed from her universe for months with zero problems. Like NONE of Miguels logic makes any sense. It has already been discussed at length the inconsistencies with his logic on what happened in Mumbattan. A canon event caused by an anomoly that only exists because of Miles, as well as Gwen not doing her mission properly....but the spot was supposed to be there to cause it...but Miles was not? Yeah we will see what happens in the next film. But based on the inconsistencies, its pretty clear that Miguel is either out right lying about the canon, or is drastically hiding important details we need to know.

This scene Miguel probably wouldn't have chased miles for breaking a Canon event 😢

Man if the article saying stuff about the overworked crew are true about rendering entire scenes and then just scrapping them that’s awful but the deleted scenes are gonna be way to good

I can see why we didn't get this..... Doesn't make sense going with the rest of the movie

I like Miguel here

Hey look, a deleted scene in storyboard! Something that Phil Lord was against looking at during production!!

@Seasonal-Shadow_4674

10 ай бұрын

Huh?

I agree with others are saying in the comments on how this scene by the end of the day is a disservice for both Miles and Gwen's character arcs. BUT I really loved seeing all the little interactions between the Spider society, which is something that I solely missed in the final movie. We could have had a cut that is a little bit of this and what we got in the end

@Seasonal-Shadow_4674

5 ай бұрын

@inktendo Honestly the Gwen/Miles relationship reeks of codependency. Gwen quits her band when they see she's hurting and try to reach out; Miles has replanned his entire future around trying to see Gwen again and all this for someone they knew for 3 to 4 days a year and a half ago. Seems kinda like an unhealthy obsession.

ah. this explains why miguel knows what the spot's name is

OOOOOHHH, so THAT'S why Cyborg Spider-Woman has merch, despite not having a single line in the actual movie So, this definitely isn't quite the scene that the movie needed, but it works SO damn well as a supplement to it, to build these characters further Also any tim Miguel cusses in Spanish it's a big win

I need this scene in high quality art because of Miguel hahaha

It is cute to me that in some scenes their facial expressions are simplified

imo the version we got is better, but i will always lament that we missed the ben reilly line "i'm chasing shadows on the wall...shadows of MYSELF"

3:57 " i am just as much as spider man as you are " miles shut the hell up , he has been spider man way longer than you .

This would have made a completely different movie but it's not a bad scene

I honestly have to agree with Gwen, I loved Miles’ first suit better.

@AA_ANIMATIONS

10 ай бұрын

Nahh, the new one is more detailed for real💯

@donathan2933

10 ай бұрын

@@AA_ANIMATIONSyeah but it seems a bit bland sometimes

"looks cool when it lights up" "now it looks infected"😭

"I liked the old one"💀

"por todas las niñas de señor" 🛐🛐

@djpegao

10 ай бұрын

Actually, it's _"la viña del Señor"_

@misskat7567

10 ай бұрын

​@djpegao Is that a phrase? Is he basically saying, "Oh my God, not this again." I'm curious because the Google translate doesn't help much. 😅

@nun1p13

10 ай бұрын

​@misskat7567 it is!! It's basically just like that too!!! Just a phrase that basically says "lord help me"

@misskat7567

10 ай бұрын

@@nun1p13 Thanks for the info. I love it when Miguel speaks sassy Spanish. 😄

@izelemi8635

10 ай бұрын

Niñas del señor...ewwww suena faltal, menos mal no dice eso exactamente 😂😂😂

This is a really good scene, glad I got to see this. It's interesting because this must've been cut early as the continuity is noticeably different. Miles already knows about canon events and such so early on.

I’m glad this scene got deleted for similar reasons to others here, but we were robbed of post apocalyptic Spider Wars Spiderwoman.

“He’s a good kid” 👁️👄👁️ “He’s a great *man* “

I’m actually so happy this was scrapped people would’ve hated Miles character if he was like this 😭

@donathan2933

10 ай бұрын

Exactly. He comes across as this needy ass kid that desperately wants to be involved with the grown ups and it doesn’t fit his character at all

@lolabee1825

10 ай бұрын

@@donathan2933 Yep totally agree. While in the movie he feels like a equal to Pavitr, Gween, and Hobie the only thing is he’s being discriminated against because he’s an anomaly which makes way more sense then it coming across like he’s immature and incapable.

@donathan2933

10 ай бұрын

@@lolabee1825 exactly. And Miles for the most part in the movie is mature, and he gradually earns the respect of characters such as Gwen and Hobie. He impresses them with his outgoing personality and willingness to go against the norm

@lolabee1825

10 ай бұрын

@@donathan2933 Yes!! This was such a good decision I loved how mature Miles was it made so much sense considering the events of the last movie and just made him incredibly lovable and made the moral conflict about protecting the canon way more interesting since we sympathize with Miles.

if they went FROM this writing TO the better one we got in the movie then I wouldn't mind giving btsv another 2-3 years to finish if it means they can have longer time to think things through about how things should go. I wouldn't empathize with Miles or Gwen as much if this was in the final cut. This one is kinda off putting.

@sapphiredragon7234

10 ай бұрын

This. This is the comment.

@elijahealks6098

10 ай бұрын

Exactly

@donathan2933

10 ай бұрын

I agree. The official scene is much better than this

Gwen said what people were saying about miles suit we like the old suit better, because that was the suit of the dead Spider-Man in represents that miles is carry-on Spider-Man’s legacy, no matter what challenges come up

@j_bn_jo_qbjo

10 ай бұрын

Agreed

@ayobruh_5

10 ай бұрын

When you think about it, wearing a dead person's clothes is crazy

Ngl I think this is a scene that could’ve extended the series. Like ASTV is a two parter but this plot could’ve made this movie it’s own entity and in the next one he becomes his own man. So in this version he learns how to become his own man and the next movie he just is completing his arc. I like the movie we got tho as is

I like the idea of this scene. I always felt like it was weird that the spider society wasn't seen more throughout the movie and that Miles and Miguel (who ends up being the main antagonist of the film) didn't meet until just before the climax. It also sets Ben up a lot better. It just in general establishes things that pay off later. But... in practice the scene is a bit sloppy. Miles comes off way less mature, and Gwen comes off even more cold. It just needed some refining, y'know.

Rly glad this got deleted, the multiverse line from Miles is a foreshadowing but also kinda takes a lot of cinematic building away, the one we got in the movie is much better in pacing and reactions, it's just Gwen and Spider woman who talk there too, making the scene more close and emotional for the viewer since we see it through Miles' reactions, there are less words spoken and yet the impact after is bigger than ever.

Cool deleted scene.

While i like this type of interaction for most of them (likely something that would've happened on a prior mission to help set up the dynamic gwen usually experiences) this also feels like it was written before Gwen's storyline took the turn it did. It doesn't feel like this is the same lonely and lost gwen from the beginning of the movie.

This kinda explains why Cyborg Spider-Woman has so many merch and even a Marvel Legends,it seems she was going to be a main member of Miguel’s team alongside Ben and Jessica but it was scrapped later in production.

Rare footage of cyborg spider women talking

HELP MILE'S FACE AT "he's a good kid"

I like what we get from Miguel, Jess, Ben, and the other Spidey But Miles and Gwen feel off in this

This scene was great, it's really unfortunate that it didn't make it in the movie.

@CYbeRuKRaINiaN

10 ай бұрын

The actual scene was more emotional and logical, Miles was afraid that he'll never see Gwen anymore + he really did want to be a part of Spider-society while in this scene he was clearly rejected and jumped to the portal like a dumb kid

@mkmc94

10 ай бұрын

This scene is really bad. Miles act like a pushy kid and Gwen sees him like it.

@joeasuncion2891

10 ай бұрын

@@CYbeRuKRaINiaN That's exactly what I was thinking. Why would he jump after her knowing that she's intending to come back sometime? In the original scene that was the last time she was ever going to see him and that pushed him to jump through the portal.

@Treck533

10 ай бұрын

The scene sucks, it makes Miles romance with Gwen seem one sided. Movie version is better

honestly i like this scene for seeing Miguel when he's not in an obvious trauma spiral but. idk it doesnt hit so hard? it feels a lil dilly dallying

Oh and cyborg spiderwoman name is petra Parker

Glad we can still get to appreciate these really great lines.

“I’m busy chasing the shadows on the wall, shadows of myself”😭Ben always spittin

This scene is great but what we got in the movie fits more and that's awesome. The 3rd movie is gonna be perfect

DAMN IT THEY SHOULDVE PUT THIS IN THE MOVIIIIEEEEEE