Jon Watt's whimsical, happy go lucky, approach in the home trilogy suited Peter Parker during his childish stages, constantly making mistakes. Now that he has lost everything and Spidey has to face things alone for the first time, it'd be nice to have a change in tone and a new director might be the answer to that.

@mechamogaka6964

7 ай бұрын

Agreed!

@Amm17ar

7 ай бұрын

The thing I love retrospectively about the Tobey movies are some of the lows are just do damn low. Spidermans a tragic charecter, they need to start showing that. Its what made Spiderman relatable and human, and in my personal opinion, why hes the most loved. People love a imperfect, flawed and broken hero.

@rhinuu045

7 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@Amm17artom lost literally everything bro

@Amm17ar

7 ай бұрын

@@rhinuu045 We havent seen what thats like yet though. And before we do we keep hearing they might not even show us that part of his life.

New direction with new director isn't always bad its a new opportunity

@WakerOfTheCryingRain

7 ай бұрын

it depends on the director tho Who knows we get a director who has a great track record of movies or a director who has a bad track record of movies

@Luffy-toro920

7 ай бұрын

Are you sure new director of spider-man 4 is bad problem?

I agree. Love the home trilogy, but it didn’t have that true spider-man flavor. I think that’s due to the fact that MCU spidey isn’t like the heart of New York. Traditional Spider-Man is the symbol of New York that the citizens look up to and admire. He has a special relationship with New York and its people. The MCU movies make it feel like he doesn’t really have that effect. He’s just like any other hero around the city, maybe worse than the other ones. I also feel there’s lack of action actually happening in manhattan itself. This reinforces how we don’t have a lot of memorable swinging scenes.

@Remix-pr4xd

7 ай бұрын

Tbf that’s how he was in the comics when he first started out. In the comics he didn’t start off as the heart of New York but grew into it once he was an adult.

@videohousejsq

7 ай бұрын

@@Remix-pr4xd Also true. I think MCU spidey should grow to become that symbol of the city in the future movies.

@Remix-pr4xd

7 ай бұрын

@@videohousejsq I definitely agree. I really hope they expand on the side characters in college. Like maybe introduce Harry, Gwen, and Rand Robertson and give them layers. The Raimi trilogy’s side characters all felt memorable and interesting (aside from MJ) even if the story was about Peter.

@spider-man500

7 ай бұрын

​@@Remix-pr4xdEven so, he started out as a controversial Loner. Not an Iron Man Apprentice.

@Remix-pr4xd

7 ай бұрын

@@spider-man500 The entire point of the trilogy was him stirring away from becoming Ironman’s apprentice. FFH was about him rejecting Ironman’s legacy.

Jon Watts was good for High School Peter Parker but we need a new director for the new Spider-Man trilogy

I want Spider-Man going back to being a street level super hero, with his identity a secret from everyone and his own intellect to make his suit and gadgets.

I definitely get what you’re saying I think that a new director could bring more life into the franchise and this way we get to see Spider-Man through somebody else’s eyes they can implement their own vision of the character, but whatever director they choose hopefully they treat the character with respect and deliver story that continues to support the reason why so many people love the character of Spider-Man

@Dani-hd9xq

7 ай бұрын

What about Tobey Maguire Spider-Man 4?

No issue with Jon Watt. But they should get a new director for the next MCU Spider-Man trilogy. I like some of things Jon Watt did in the Homecoming trilogy. But the next trilogy should be a little more serious and we should get more swinging action and fighting action. I really want to see Tom Holland’s Spider-Man go through tough times on his own without or minimal help.

I’ve been saying Drew Goddard she directed Spider-Man movie for years, he’d be absolutely perfect

@lunar-studios

7 ай бұрын

She?

My ideas for a new Spider-Man trilogy: *Movie 1: Spider-Man: Web of Memories* Synopsis: As Peter Parker resumes his life post-"No Way Home," a new threat emerges in the form of Scorpion, hired by the notorious Kingpin to dismantle Spider-Man. Peter, caught in a web of memories from different dimensions, encounters the mysterious Black Cat, adding complexity to his life. Meanwhile, Alistair Smythe, a brilliant but troubled scientist, is introduced, setting the stage for future conflicts. The movie explores Peter's struggle to balance his personal life with the responsibilities of being Spider-Man. The memories from alternate dimensions intensify the challenges he faces, and the enigmatic Black Cat becomes both an ally and a source of intrigue. *Avengers: Secret Wars* Synopsis: During a multiverse-spanning conflict known as Secret Wars, Spider-Man obtains a powerful black symbiote suit. The Avengers face unprecedented challenges as they navigate through different dimensions, battling formidable foes. Peter's connection with the black suit enhances his abilities but also raises questions about its origin and influence. As the Avengers confront the mysterious force behind Secret Wars, Peter grapples with the symbiote's dark influence on his personality. The movie ends with Peter returning to his world, black suit in tow, setting the stage for personal and superheroic struggles in the next installment. *Movie 2: Spider-Man: Web of Shadows* Synopsis: A new threat emerges in the form of the Ultimate Spider-Slayer, a creation of Alistair Smythe seeking vengeance against Spider-Man. Simultaneously, Peter's best friend, Ned Leeds, succumbs to dark forces, becoming the Hobgoblin. The black symbiote suit amplifies Peter's inner demons, leading to internal conflicts and external threats. The city plunges into chaos as Spider-Man battles the dual threats of the Spider-Slayer and Hobgoblin. In a moment of clarity, Peter sheds the symbiote suit, symbolizing his rejection of its corrupting influence. The movie sets the stage for the final confrontation with Kingpin and the resolution of lingering conflicts. *Movie 3: Spider-Man: Web of Destiny* Synopsis: In the epic finale, Spider-Man faces the ultimate showdown against Kingpin, now revealed as the mastermind behind the orchestrated chaos. Hobgoblin, driven by personal vendettas, becomes a formidable adversary. As Peter confronts his enemies, MJ regains her memories, adding emotional weight to the conflict. In a climactic battle, Spider-Man overcomes the odds, defeating both Kingpin and Hobgoblin. The city is saved, and Peter's relationships are mended. The movie concludes with Peter and MJ embracing a renewed sense of destiny, having faced the shadows of the past and emerged stronger than ever.

I dont want the next spider man movie to be a team up or another multiverse situation. I want to him alone figuring life out and doing his own thing

@TE-fc8xw

7 ай бұрын

Been saying this for the longest he’s needs to stop with the team ups with spider people other super hero’s or his friends knowing he’s Spider-Man

2:52 in spider-man 2 they were pushing the limits of their technology at the time. Whenever stuff like that happens in a movieproduction, it's powerful

Drew Goddard wrote Cloverfield ( 2008 ) , cabin in the woods, the Martin, created daredevil and the defenders , and had a part in the development of Deadpool 2. That's a surprisly good track record I would be excited if he a did spider man movie

I personally grew up with TASM2, so the cinematography in that movie is always what I expected in future Spider-Man movies.

@mohamedfawzy5843

7 ай бұрын

I hope dude I need to see the same cinematography and emotional scenes in MCU Spiderman 4 that could happen if Sony and Disney minded their own business and give the director his full creative freedom to do the movie.

@chriscarrera1172

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, no matter how bad that movie is, the cinematography is beautiful and the best of any live action Spider-Man movie.

@prathapkutty7407

7 ай бұрын

Thats because it was shot on film by dan mindel who worked with jj Abrams in alot of his movies like force awakens, rise of Skywalker as well as his two star trek films.

Perfect take on the John Watts trilogy. Couldn’t agree more

i feel like so many people say "jon watts spiderman movies have no flavor or style" and only because they see flavor as just visuals and not actual direction In my opinion, jon watts handles tenseion and stakes better than anyone else in the mcu by far and thats where his style is put in. Into those plot twists, those quiet scenes, the tension. He has flavor but its more in his direction and pacing and especially in the editing room... but i do understand the people who think he lacks in the visuals department, i dont disagree with that at all.

@SuperBC64

7 ай бұрын

The car scene with Michael Keaton was unmatched

100% agreed

Totally agreed with you chris, there's always something missing about watts' spider-man that I can't point out, I don't think I really enjoyed his take on spider-man. I always thought to myself that It feels like i'm not watching spider-man at all till the ending of no way home.

100% Agree with you man 💯

This is far fetched but would love David Fincher's take on Spiderman, he was in talks to in the past

i think watts has a lot of hidden potential tbh. even though nwh was super bland for the first half it had a completely different tone and direction when norman turned on him, like it almost feels like it was tricking us with how vastly darker and serious the tone got. the green goblin fight and esp the final scene really does capture the essence of spiderman

I know this won’t happen but it be cool to see rami work on this movie.

0:52 Spider-Man homecoming actually has a lot of flavor. You gotta appreciate the little things like Peter and May get ready for prom, Peter learns how to tie a tie, Spidey helping a lady get directions, flash saying thats not spiderman that’s just Ned in a red shirt”, or Ned saying “I was watching porn”, Peter being freinds with his local deli owner. Spider-Man homecoming is actually (to me) what Spider-Man is supposed to be character wise. Besides all the tech and iron man stuff you can feel the love in this film

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@3cfilms your description of Watts vision and direction is so true 👍

Yeah, I agree. I want a new director with a different approach and vision for the MCU Spidey.

If Drew Goddard directs Spider Man 4, I'd be so happy

Goddard would be awesome for the next phase of spider man movies

1:06 that would be the works if Kevin Fiege lol

I think the reason you feel that way about John Watts’s Spider-Man universe is because marvel has way more say than probably the Webb & Rami verses. Marvel is trying to push the bigger picture and that’s why it didn’t feel like the condenser worlds of the others

W opinion chris I agree💯 We need a new director

Totally agree with u on ur feelings for Jon watts chris. Although I absolutely ADORE NWH, his movies and style(or the lack thereof) are flavourless

i think I'm one of the few who doesn't want Spidey to be depressed all the time

@tylerjones4247

7 ай бұрын

None of us do but that’s brilliance of the character. We don’t want this great dude to have bad luck but that’s one of the reasons why we root for him

LOVE Jon Watts, he has made my favourite Spider-Man movies, but I never wanted him to come back. It's a new era in Peter's life, I think a new director is a perfect idea

What i like about what john watts done with spiderman i just like how fun it is, it wasn't trying to go all super dramatic and serious until no way home i like the far from home swing scene it just felt so energetic and playful and after no way home i feel thats when we'll get the dramatic serious tones that we all know from spiderman movies and game

The problem with watts is him not utilizing the capabilities of what you can do with Spider-Man, I mean look at TASM, the visuals, the camera work etc. just shows how visually pleasing a Spider-Man movie can look like That's why I think FFH is the best movie ( VISUALS WISE ) out of the 3, the way he utilized mysterio, and that whole drone battle sequence is top notch

Director for Cabin in the Woods, the Cloverfield trilogy, World War Z, The Martian, Watcha do about nothing. Apparently, a cancelled Sinister Six film from a few years back (that apparently sounded great) and a cancelled X-force film, he also wrote a bit of Daredevil aswell, he is a mainly horror based director and I find that to be actually good for spiderman, a grounded, gritty and dark spiderman would be very interesting and smart

@mohamedfawzy5843

7 ай бұрын

Maybe that could happen if Sony and Disney doesn't interfere him.

@Saurondür

7 ай бұрын

@mohamedfawzy5843 Yeah, but yknow... it's disney, Sony. I'm sure it will be fine with a dark film

@mohamedfawzy5843

7 ай бұрын

@@Saurondür 2 of the worst companies ever dude that's why they sucked lately at the box office because of unnecessary projects and many reshoots and many plot holes in writing

Jon Watts was cool for High School Spider-Man but we need someone with more style for college Spidey.

I 100% agree with you on the Jon Watts Spider-Man movies being flavorless. There is no awesome camera movement or visual flare

We need Marc Webb to do MCU spider-man, lol

Spider-Man ps4 (only that game specifically) should be a major inspiration for MCU Spider-Man 4 imo

Well no matter what director they’ll chose it’s up to Tom Holland to be in that movie with whatever director or script as long as he sees that it’ll be a great Spider-Man movie so I have faith that it won’t be a bad Spider-Man movie

@Anthonycheesman33

7 ай бұрын

He’s in it no matter how bad the script is lol

@Dani-hd9xq

7 ай бұрын

What if they are doing this because of Tobey Maguire Spider-Man 4?

@chriscarrera1172

7 ай бұрын

@@Dani-hd9xq What?

I still enjoy Tom’s movies (especially NWH because of course) to this day but I can MAYBE sort of see where you’re coming from, we don’t get as good swinging scenes or camera movements like in Tobey and Andrew’s movies with the Mysterio fight being the outlier. I’m sort of worried for Spider-Man 4, I just want it to be a really good movie about Tom’s Peter being a street level hero again, classic Spider-Man stories, and since they set up Daredevil in NWH they should follow through on that with this movie, no multiverse stuff. Whether it’s Watts or someone else, I’m okay with it as long as the movie ends up good.

I agree I want a new direction and feel. Would kinda be disappointed if we don't get a new director

I totally agree about Watts Spiderman movies, the only one I enjoyed was No Way Home and when you take away the Rami feeling parts and multiverse stuff it's back to the same old stuff I didn't enjoy. I think we need a new director or I probably won't be interested enough to go see it, but I hope if he does return he makes me eat my words

so glad to hear about this news. Never liked his tone for the flicks. Hopefully we get somebody who can convey something with passion.

@TheLastCommander8

7 ай бұрын

Yeah it never felt like he had as much of a connection to the character that Raimi or even Webb had

Jon Watts did the best he could with the Spider-Man movies especially when he was working for 3 corporations Disney, Marvel and Sony who all have opinions on what to add into a Spider-Man movie can you imagine how much pressure he was under when making his Spider-Man movies maybe that's why he left fantastic four

I feel the same way with spiderman 2 its good forsure but it feels like a checklist of things they knew would give them a good mark off the back of the other games Miles is cool but I feel like Spiderman dying is key to him becoming super hero and it works narrative wise because peter becomes uncle ben and inspires Miles

I love the tasm movies the most

THANK YOU! YESS! I'm not the only one! Jon watts Spider-Man movies never use visuals to add to the experience. When you see Marc Webb and Raimi they made you feel like Spider-Man, and they made you feel like you were along for the ride and used every shot to enhance the emotion or suspense. The Webb duology and Raimi Trilogy look stunning, Watts just looks flat with bland coloring, bland transitions, and almost no web swinging scenes. His Spider-Man might as well be the spectacular leaping dude! All he does is jump around. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed most of the films (Homecoming and NWH), but someone else should take the wheel.

Spider-Man 4: Spidey has to take on Scorpion and Shocker who are working for Kingpin, Spidey is also dealing with Black Cat, mj and Ned are not in the film, the classic Spider-Man 1960s remix theme comes back, Peter works for JJJ at the daily bugle, Peter works at feast to honor May, he meets Miles Morales, Spidey would find his way into Kang Dynasty this way: In Kang Dynasty, Kang arrives to earth and all of the heroes of earth react to Kang’s arrival, thus assembling the new heroes that will form the new avengers. They all meet Spider-Man and learn what he’s about, Peter already knows most of the heroes however.

Good I want a dark toned spider-man

so where would you rank NWH now? I still have it top 3 at least

I can go without John Watts, I agree with you 100%

I liked Homecoming. It shows growth in his character. He just regressed from that point until No Way Home.

bro u just spke every words of mine .... i'm Sam Ramis Spider-man fan since 2002..... and u made my day ... thank u so much. what Spider-man make spider-man its his Style and his body and his swings and his poses ...... there nothing Absolutely ZERO Pose in Watts movie..... or he dont know what the hell is spider-man poses.

I agree 100 percent.

I wouldn’t mind a new director for Spiderman I think it’ll be needed

i'm happy it might be a new director. the new trilogy needs a change of style and story

Jon watts gives Disney channel movie vibes compared to the other directors. Bring back depressed moody emo spidey! 😂

For me Chirs perfectly explained the situation in where Jon Watts is good but we need someone else to add their take on spiderman. But plz pray to good that the new director is good.

Oh wow a new director, can't wait for Spider-Man fans to act accordingly and mature online when these film come out. (The toxicity won't end)

Jon Watts made Peter's story in the mcu about a kid coming to terms with the fact that the life he once envisioned for himself was never within his grasp, something everyone comes to terms with at some point. At the end of the day he had no one but himself to pick up the pieces of what was left of his life. Started with Peter thinking being Spidey was the best thing ever and ending by learning the hard way the sacrifice and responsibility it takes to be Spider-Man. Now while the movies did have flaws, I still love them with all my heart. So I won't be completely pissed if Watts returns, but I think Spider-Man is on a fresh new start, I think a new director with a new vision and style should take over, but thank you Jon Watts for directing my favorite MCU trilogy!

Drew Goddard makes sense because, if rumors are to be believed, Spider-Man will be teaming up with Daredevil in this one. And Drew did create the Netflix series.

Bully macguire: See ya chump!

I liked the home trilogy, but I really want a stylistic director for Spider-Man now. If James gunn didn't become the head of DCU, he would've been perfect for Spider-Man imo

Did he just say no way home wasn't perfect ummm yeah no that move was incredible

Marvel should get The Russo Brothers to do Spiderman 4 and sinister 6

I think a new director can very well do good for this, what I hope to god is a down to earth, poor, street level Peter Parker. But my god, I don't think it will happen.

I think the reason why Watts’ movies feel “tasteless” is because it wasn’t his movie, it was probably Marvel’s, that’s how Marvel lets their directors work, they don’t. They’re the ones in control of everything and directors are hardly ever able to put their own style into it

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Alr it think it’s time to say it: WE NEED MICHAEL BAY TO DIRECT A SPIDEY FILM

@is-landmedia2360

7 ай бұрын

😂yes! We need it

@jstudios0924

7 ай бұрын

@@is-landmedia2360 like those swinging scenes would be FIRE

@laverdadescatolica5

7 ай бұрын

Hahah no way he will kill Spider-Man like phase 4 killed Avengers.

People say mcu spider-man is too techy when spider-man always had worn tech and had gadgets

I am a big fan of No Way Home but I also agree that John Watts direction with Spiderman is missing something. New director might actually be a good thing

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I thought i was the only one i loved jon watts but a oart if me felt like there more commercial to sell toys

I want a grouned spider man

"He created DD" that's all I needed to hear 😂 SOLD spidey is in good hands.

Watch in a couple years ppl gonna randomly called Tom Holland Spider-Man underrated. That’s what happened with Andrew Garfield

I appreciate the whole homecoming trilogy since its all done now but as they all came out individually it wasnt thay great but i mean i enjoy rewatching the trilogy and its a fun young peter parker he fit the childish tone but its time for a litte more grown up version

I’ve been thinking we need a new direction anyway.

John Watts Spider-Man movies are okay I just wish they weren't made to sell toys and instead be actual movies but I still think they're fun and entertaining and no way home is one of the best Spider-Man movies I ever saw

@Shahriyararin63

7 ай бұрын

Agreed. Only No Way Home was perfect

I don’t want watts to come back you’re right, his Spider-Man movies are emotionless. It’s not the Spider-Man he we all know and love. It’s just corporate Spider-Man.

Drew Goddard is an amazing talent in many ways, but anybody who's seen Cabin In The Woods knows there's nothing he did that stylistically stands out, from his directing/shots. It'd be Jon Watts 2.0 lol

Jon Wats best spider-man movie was Homecoming; every film after felt more generic than the last. Would love someone else’s take on spidey to give us better action & drama.

@Shahriyararin63

7 ай бұрын

No Way Home is better

@user-pv7je3bf4k

7 ай бұрын

@@Shahriyararin63 i disagree 🤷🏾‍♂️

@Shahriyararin63

7 ай бұрын

@@user-pv7je3bf4k nope it's objectively true, the reviews and box office numbers are higher for No Way Home. Homecoming is fun but forgettable

@user-pv7je3bf4k

7 ай бұрын

@@Shahriyararin63 Wow, the “it made more money so it’s objectively better” argument isn’t really a sound one. By that logic most marvel movies would be better than movies like Godfather Pt. II, Schindler’s List, Fruitvale Station. Popularity is not an indication of quality

@Shahriyararin63

7 ай бұрын

@@user-pv7je3bf4k even so it doesn't change the fact that No Way Home is better

No way! His version is fantastic! Only the Iron Man Jr. stuff got annoying.

Personally I love Spider-Man homecoming and the other Spider-Man sequels including far from home and no way home because they have that 80s Spider-Man high school movie feel like the back to the future trilogy

Definitely on board for a new director, Spider-Man homecoming was just ok I tried rewatching it and nah, 2 felt like a tony stark tribute and 3 was just a movie full of cameos nothing impressive don’t be hating either lol just my opinion

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Agreed!! Far from home was the only decent one.

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I think Bobby Drake and Gwen Stacy should be in Spiderman 4. Just imagine we get Spiderman, the human torch, and Iceman as a trio in the Kang Dynasty 🔥

I never care to watch the Home trilogy again. Maybe parts of No Way Home. But they just aren’t good Spider-Man movies and brought nothing lasting imo.

Jon Favreau for director!

Jon Watts first 2 movies are okay hut No Way Home is perfect. I have nothing against him, it's just having the same director over and over again can get stale. New chapter for Spider Man so new director and creative team. Having Jon Watts, is basically playing safe. Drew Goddard directing the next trilogy would be a 2nd chance to be in a Spider Man universe. He is a good director and has a good track record

I’d be fine with him returning as director but I get why people want a new director, it’s a new trilogy so it should have a different feel

Sam Raimi did great with his version of Spider-Man but what he did with Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness was such a major let down for me. They hyped that movie up so much and was even describing it as the first marvel horror movie. The visuals were stunning but the story and how it was executed was a massive failure in my opinion.

Man Jon and Tom get so much hate… why does everyone just want every Spider-Man to be like Tobey, just let them show new story they never shown…

3C speaking FACTS🔥🔥🔥

how you feel about watts is how i feel about webb.