barbar! Amazing work! These history videos are my favorite D2 content

@AtotehZ

Жыл бұрын

What we learned in ancient history class was that Greeks generally looked down on anyone who wasn't greek. "Bar bar" was basically their way of making fun of anyone who was not Greek.

monsters have the following defenses against magic : resistance, hit points. against melee : resistance, hit points, defense, leech reduction. the game is fundamentally balanced in favor of magic.

@DevelonLP

Жыл бұрын

You also need hit rate or you wont hit anything

@mrosskne

Жыл бұрын

@@DevelonLP Yes, that's included in defense.

@michelvanderlinden8363

Жыл бұрын

good thing the barb has a skill that allows him to deal pure magic damage, something only 1 enemy type in the entire game is resistant to. And a skill that ignores defense entirely. For a speedrun a barb is difficult sure. Casually the barb is a beast.

@mrosskne

Жыл бұрын

@@michelvanderlinden8363 A single target, slow as fuck attack that makes him get hit by every single attack that targets him. WOWZERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@catnium

Жыл бұрын

@@mrosskne hit ? by who ? you just spam fear wc

So glad you keep going! We did 2:07h in d2r 8player yesterday which was a personal best for us. Now watching your highly appreciated documentation motivates me to keep pushing and hoping many more players are opening up to this out most fun way of playing d2. Ty 4 your contributions to D2 culture!

@TheSilv3r

Жыл бұрын

Amazing! I love team runs and 2:07 is a great time 😀

Incredible. Signed in just to leave a comment. Thanks so much for making this. It's such a niche speedrunning community. Every since summoning salt launched his series I've been eagerly waiting for someone to cover D2 runs. Really appreciate the time/effort/research that went into this and loved the personal interviews.

Great job from BK ! Was really interesting to watch. GO BARB !

Was a long time competitive Diablo 2 classic player, and played a ton of LoD as well, mostly on USWest. Barbarian, Bone Nec, and Hdin were my main jam, with barb being my strongest mechanically speaking. I would've absolutely loved to compete in the speedrunning scene, but am long retired. I'm so happy to have stumbled upon your channel, glad to see Diablo 2 is still thriving in some form.

@Guitar-Dog

Жыл бұрын

Glad you were there at the time. I'm a bit younger I presume, D3 and 2 are obvs different, but I picked up D3 and got top 500 HC in my first season. Wish I was there in the 90s

@RatKing2137

Жыл бұрын

"competitive Diablo 2 classic player" Holy shit lmao xD

@vOddy75

Жыл бұрын

@@Guitar-Dog Diablo 2 came out in 2000

Nothing was more sad in the post 1.10 closed bnet than barbarians being relegated to a lower tier than literally everyone else (except for maybe necros) as far as needing the absolute best uniques and runewords to pvm in hell diff... Other classes' skills having such insane synergy boosts, combined with running into enough physical immune enemies (what a bad design for a hack n slash LOL)... Nice to see some love.

@mrosskne

Жыл бұрын

don't forget, anything that's not physical immune still has 50% physical resist in hell, and the only way around it is a single target melee attack that removes your ability to leech and makes you more vulnerable at the same time. meanwhile, sorceresses get a passive skill that reduces enemy cold resistance and has no downsides. just incredible game design.

@formdoggie5

Жыл бұрын

@@mrosskne I stopped playing when they introduced immunities for precisely that reason. That being said, best way around them was something that attacked fast and cast a curse. Ironically -- a melee necro worked better as a result of having on demand physical stripping.

@ocoolwow

Жыл бұрын

@@mrosskne cry more

@formdoggie5

Жыл бұрын

@Creatotron ...what does that have to do with barbarians hitting things? you know -- the entire context of the reply chain you're on.

@formdoggie5

Жыл бұрын

yes, your ungeared summon necro sucks. Can and being good at something are two different things. The whole point is the comparison -- not the ability. Go look at the TTK's at the time and come back when you have some reading comprehension.

This was a really neat insight into the history, thank you :) I've been mostly an speedrun-enthusiast on the sidelines at the time, and been mostly interested in the absurdity of attempting to do Hell Hardcore runs for Barbarian and Paladin. But when you mentioned the innovation of using the Nadir helmet I was like: "I told you guys :D", since I'd been using it whenever I happened to get that runeword along the way ^^ This was a fun jaunt into the past, and the more recent history that I missed

Damn, as a Necromancer main who only messed around playing the Barbarian, this makes me realize how much I was missing out. Yeah, he’s really difficult to utilize until late game but damn if it doesn’t look fun.

You really produce excellent videos. Good to finally see the views matching the quality 🙌

This was so well done. This was so much fun wathing. We needm ore of that. I remember the jail strat of the sorc and then just got really intersted in speed running. Speed running has helped me to enjoy the gam much more because you dont just aim for the really good gear - the progress in d2r is sooo rewarding when you know the little things. From all the shortcuts (b, q, c etc.) up to filling your belt, way point / portal etc. these really small things which everyone takes for granted, but when you actually just play causally, never really think about. I love the d2r low level rune words; I wish a few more where there and Stealth alternative were present for some casters/melee builds.

Glad you got the attention you deserved. Great videos and good knowledge, even for those of us that have followed speedrunning for years

You should definitely keep these coming, if it's not too much work. I have never attempted or followed any diablo speedruns, and I was still completely into this lol

This was a really good watch man, good job sir!

Your videos are great man. I have a lot of catching up to do! Subbed!

Amazing research with interviewing so many of the legends. A tip for future videos: some interviewee's voice seems a bit louder than others or yours when listening with headphones, maybe they could be adjusted a bit when making the cut. Thank you very much for the content and keep it up! :)

Amazing video as always! Had forgotten that Nightfallx-run, geez

glad this video got blessed by the algorithm, I hate it when I have to wonder "why does this guy only have 1k subs"

THX 4 dis man! I've logged in to sub, like & comment. Haven't done this in years!!! This is a BIG DEAL! Loved the vid!

This is great! I didn't know a thing about Diablo before watching your videos, and now I honestly want to give it a try some time. Congratulations on having this video Grappled by the algorithm, too.

I just want to say thanks for this video and the previous six. They were very cool to listen to of a game I played casually. Looking forward to more

This was a very high quality video. I was surprised to see you don't have more subs.

This is such an interesting niche in speed running.

this is a great video, reignited my interest in D2 runs!

Great analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

great vid. good watch. Thank you for this

Great video dude! Haven't played Diablo for DECADES but love the game!

Just showed up. Excited for this!

Dude what a great video! So well put together, like a nice movie!

hope theres more history vids like this on your channel, gonna have a look and if so def subbing ;)

@TheSilv3r

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/head/PLWRUEeU74Dxz6bTvqF72_uuu_4T6sZkvj has the full playlist in case anyone is interested

@notaflightreactsfan3706

Жыл бұрын

thanks , made sure to sub also !

Adding a comment here to help the algorithm. Great video/history, you are like the Wirtual of D2.

This was great. If you are out of content ideas you could make similar videos about all the other D2 characters.

This video was great! A+ speedrunning content. Oort Cloud (at the start of the video) is a great song. Haven’t heard it many other places, and had it part-way playing when I started the video. Thought I had an issue with my phone playing both audio sources. 😂

@TheSilv3r

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, agree!

Awesome video, man. Editing is good to.

Amazing video, thank you for making it. Watching mrllama during early pandemic got me interested in speedrunning. And this is history, even if it's niche.

Great video !

This video is amazing. Great job

hit chance formula is great and not an issue what is truly awful is monsters BLOCKING your attacks on top of that. That 40% chance to hit Baal you see in the character screen is actually 18% because of his chance to block what is slightly bad about the hit chance formula is that it's too easy to fall back in levels by act 5 normal (monster levels in act 5 normal are higher than in act 1 nightmare), and there isn't an easy way to catch up in levels (because getting XP in modern D2 is about killing lots of monsters - unlike older versions where only the boss monsters gave increased XP)

bro u finally made a video that went somewhat viral and havent uploaded since, in 3 months. WTF? I want to watch your videos

Never looked at the D2 speedrunning scene before, but damn this video was interesting.

This is great, you deserve more subs.

Great video, thank you!

Lol I have no idea how to build a barb but he's always been a welcome addition to any team as he buffs the party greatly and is a wonderful meat shield

@jeanmichelbambi2563

Жыл бұрын

Find skill you like, max the shout and battle orders, max your mastery, max said skill and one synergy, build done

I like your content, but is there any chance of expanding to "Hardcore Hell" runs, or even just "Hardcore" in general?

Barb player here. Love the video Man.

Love it BK!, keep up the great work

awesome video man, first i see of you and i fucking love the work and dedication you've got in this

Watching the first completed Hell Barb speedrun was awesome. And it took a lot less time than expected.

21:53 -- lol it's funny... the lighting and shading make the "Mace" look like grey -- i.e. SOCKETED... It isn't until it moves out of the range of the fire pillar that you can see it's a UNIQUE.

Great video, but I have to mention, kinda weird to put every time into the same graph, since they're not really the same category. In this video you covered D2:LoD P1, D2:R P1 and D2:R PX, which makes sense, covering only D2:LoD would leave the story incomplete, but I wish you at least put some indication of where each category progression begins and ends in the final graph, because otherwise it really makes it seem like its all the same category. In fact, a lot can be improved in the final graph, like adding a time (as in when the run was made) axis, adding the actual times next to the icons, having some grid lines to make easier to see, so on and so forth. Of course, the video was still very entertaining to watch, take this as improvement suggestions for your next video, which I'll be sure to watch. Cheers.

@isawadelapradera6490

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, D2 LoD and D2 R not being separated by category is borderline worse than not separating TAS runs.

Keep up good work! This was very interesting even tho last time i've played D2 was around 15 years ago😄

Soloing barn is akin to being a wine taster. You barely rush or skip anything. True Enjoyers. 🫶😀

@mrosskne

Жыл бұрын

"barn"

@cococock2418

Жыл бұрын

Wtf is barn bozo

@L0-C01

8 ай бұрын

@@mrosskne😂

I have never played Diablo 2, nor have I speed-ran any game before, but this video has incredibly entertaining!

i hope youtube push your content further... first time seeying your video and damn it is really good!

thx for the vid! really liked it!

awesome video :) i thought id just check the beginning but then i got hooked and watched the whole thing :D you earned a new subscriber thanks for the video

bless be the youtube algorithm, what amazing content

This remaster actually looks great. Better than D3, even.

Fascinating video!

"Quick, grab my pony tail!" "HUR!"

MrLlama is freaking boss. I’ve never seen him mad, I think that’s his superpower lol

@Hmongboi228

Жыл бұрын

I've watched his vids. As a straight guy, he seems like a patient and chill dude. Somebody who you would want as a friend or to hang out with. Its a shame that we dont see that one chick anynore where he found and she ID'ed Tyreal's might. What happened to her?

@John-lm3zx

Жыл бұрын

@@Hmongboi228 wait what why would you have to qualify yourself as a "straight dude" just to say he seems patient and chill? there's no way to mistake that for hitting on him. it's not like you're saying "as a straight dude he's pretty handsome" or something

@procastrination8328

Жыл бұрын

@@John-lm3zx Lmfao I read that comment and missed that part completely, great and funny analysis.

Great vid!

This is amazing content!

Morrowind fans: Diablo 2 has worse hit chance than our game Me: They're the same picture

Barbarian has always been the slowest class even outside of speedrunning. I'm not sure why Llama says it's the best class of 1.00 and hammerdins are terrible. "Hurrdurr but whirlwind doe", but up until level 30, its a long, painful grind especially if you're running spear/pole. God forbid you run into an Extra Fast Teleportation Stone Skin of Multi-projectile Lightning Enchanted. Hammerdin's were not only strong, but Redemption allows them to be extremely self sufficient, to the point you can borderline ignore the lack of shopped mana potions. Concentration worked at full power, rather than half in later patches, so imagine your 250ish damage hammer being boosted by a 400% aura, and you can regen at almost any time. Every other caster I've tried is just a step down with the next best one being bone Necro with Amp CE spam, and the worst ones being sorc and javazon. Javazon is just straight up disfunctional.

man when i stumbled on d2 speed runs in early days i was thinking why tf would you do that. no matter the class. but i just kept watching and looking at it now retrospective d2 speed runs is the most fun ive had on twitch to this day.

This was a bad ass video…do you have any plans to do vids on the other classes?

@TheSilv3r

Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot! I'm thinking through some ideas on next projects. I already (kind of) covered assassin and sorc in previous videos, so would be looking at something outside those. The 8 player record has also gone nuts in the last 9 months so I owe that team an update (especially now that I run with them haha).

Barbarian is that class that is, by far, the most item dependent. This reflects in the speedrun, since you don't have time to get good gear. And such, it will always be the most luck-dependent class (except maybe after some balance changes). Except most of the warcries, both masteries and combat skill both give percentage increases on the gear you have. So if you have amazing gear, your barb will be even more amazing. If you're naked or with crap gear... well, the skills won't make it much better. And I think that Barb was nerfed initially, because the gear in the game got better with patches and the extra runewords. Barb would've gotten OP in those cases. I have to say, I don't know much details about the Leap attack changes, but having one skill that's much better than the others is also not good. Makes everything less interesting, gives less choice since that skill becomes mandatory if you need performance. By the looks of it, I'd say that Leap attack needs to be nerfed a bit now, but the AoE damage can be kept, just maybe kept in check somehow. The true AoE of barb is the whirlwind. I still think that's the one that should be improved. I think that a nice balance for it would be to have a limit of hits it can do, after which it stops, if it didn't reach the destination. Like 10+whirlwind level number of hits. This way, you can keep it being high damage. You can keep it still very useful vs few/single targets, as you attack it/them very quickly. But still have a limit, so if you have 100 monsters it's not OP. As for the speedrunning part... well, maybe a new meta to go to level 30 ASAP then finish the game is in place ^^

@TheSilv3r

Жыл бұрын

Nice write up. Back in 1.0 leap attack was like the Paladin's smite in that it had 100% chance to hit, so I feel the latest patch is one step toward bringing back that balance. It's definitely not OP (it really drops off in nightmare), but it's a step in the right direction. I think you're idea of buffing WW is really interesting, would be cool if it had +IAS every level or something so that at like level 30 you'd be back to the "hits every frame" window like it was in original. That would probably be OP now and kill the PvP scene without changes to block mechanics too, but it feels like there's something that could be done in that space.

@Winnetou17

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSilv3r Thanks! Good to know that the skill is not OP. I think that simply making it have 100% chance to hit is not that uhm.. cool. Having a small AoE with extra damage is both cool (brings satisfaction to use) while also making sense. On that note, just crossed my mind. What if the Leap attack damage is the weapon damage + some %bonus, buuut, since it's also yourself, also give bonus flat damage (in a bigger area than the weapon damage) based on your str/vit/level (something that scales with you, preferably something that reflects how buff you are) and the sum of all strength requirement of everything you have equipped. The idea being that high str req - this thing is heavy. Heavy stuff - lots of damage when landing. Image having sacred armor and aegis with no weapon and one-shot killing fallens and such just by leaping into them. Though this feels too specific to ever be implemented officially, but it should be possible in a mod.

Amazing job BK!

Ah time to watch all of these videos

i loved this documentary. Thank you.

Just like the Necromongers ... each class starts out as something else ...

32:42 baal just casually drops an immortal king helm lmao

I feel like speedrunning is for people who were disappointed every time they didn't get homework in highschool.

@mrfarq6654

Жыл бұрын

wow

I still think the worst designed class is the paladin. Who in the right mind decided that a melee class with auras had to sacrifice his main melee attack, ie the RMB 'walk to location hacking everything in your way', to use them auras, leaving them with the useless LMB 'attack specific target' attack only? Even the Sorcerer, the supposed weakest melee class, can still use the RMB melee attack without having to sacrifice all his magical ability.... I have actually done playthroughs with aura-free pallies for this simple reason..... pure vengence/zeal, aura skills only for synergies, auras never actually used as the loss of RMB is a bigger pain than the loss of the auras.....

@mrfarq6654

Жыл бұрын

RMB means?

@Debbiebabe69

Жыл бұрын

@@mrfarq6654 right mouse button

@Winnetou17

Жыл бұрын

He has to concentrate on those auras bro 😄

@Debbiebabe69

Жыл бұрын

@@Winnetou17 Im sure the necromancer has got to concentrate on controlling those 15+ skeletons he just summoned, but even he can do something as basic as the RMB melee attack....

@Winnetou17

Жыл бұрын

@@Debbiebabe69 Yeah, but he's the necromancer. He has things like ... intelligence and sarcasm. The paladin on the other hand...

Gosh dangit, 30sec in and I already had to pause and laugh...that red lightning attack from Diablo in Resurrected is just SO HILARIOUSLY PUNY LOOKING, I can't get over it even now. They made this big fiery lightning beam deal in 2d crap graphics back in the vanilla D2 and it looked scary and badass, and now it's just some piddly little thin red lightning that looks almost as threatening as Rakanishu. I just can't hahahhahahaha...it's like they forgot half of the effect, like someone was supposed to put fire under the red lightning, some flame breath effects, like on Heroes of the Storm but longer range or something, idk, but nope!

@TheSilv3r

Жыл бұрын

💯

Two words - dual fumiliating potions.

Never even played much d2 but still enjoyed this

Would be cool if there was a category for each of your class bests combined. Meaning you wouldn't have to do all classes in one sitting, but improving your Barbarian by 30 secs would improve your overall time by 30 secs. Same with a 15 sec improvement on your Sorc, which would improve your overall 15 secs as well.

Hearing the barb shout for two hours straight is the real reason. RAH RUH RAGH!

This is so interesting. Thank you for the video!

awesome content! very good and professional, hitted the bell !

What an awesome video

Inner sight is a god-tier debuff.

Great videos!

my friend used to main barb. and i was a necro in d2. safe to say our dps was trough the roof... and my minions often took the hits for him. and then the nerfs came. he eventually switched to druid

great video!

We play HC only over here- Softcore seems like the 'demo' version of the game, or in better words, just simple practice-

@TheSilv3r

Жыл бұрын

You should try speedrunning! I did HC speedruns exclusively for my first 9 months or so, adds a whole new level to the gameplay.

GJ Bk, love your videos

hillarious thumbnail

fantastic video!

@AmateurSuperFan

Жыл бұрын

also 42:04 LOL if you know, you know

1:13 Deep Fking Value!!! Didn’t know Kieth played D2 hahah

Dude barbs are badass and will wreck shop if you know how

in its earliest iteration, the barb is very very fun to play, the whirlwind was very powerful (or should i say, balanced when compared to the other mega farmer class i.e sorc/ama). mana drain and life drain worked with undead too, so ww was supa. then comes a time when pvp'er complained it being op in pvp. so they gutted ww on a whim. while leaving nothing to make up for the void.

0:00 The Bob.

Back in early d2 casters didn't have easy access to unlimited mana. Couldn't buy mana potions at all. Made leach and regen alot more important. So melee had more of a fit in the mix not being as mana reliant.

i go minimal life, high dex.. which is what you're supposed to do if you're hurting for A/R, i quickly craft crushing blow items, and get high attack speed.. the barbs certaintly not the best, but these complainers make it seem way worse than it is. play smarter.

when diablo 2 first came out, I made a zeal paladin and got a full sigon set by like act 2. I killed diablo at lvl 21 and the run was really fast but I don't remember how long.

i'm pretty sure the OGs called him Baba, not Barb

my favorite class of all time