the comments: 50% v4x 50% v2 100% Miku

@darja.volodko

4 жыл бұрын

No shit

@toast892

4 жыл бұрын

Kagamine Len and Rin Now it's no longer 100% [REDACTED] >:)))

@CynningSeline

3 жыл бұрын

@@toast892 :0 Are they and Piko still finding Peke's voice?!

@toast892

3 жыл бұрын

@@CynningSeline yeah I think they're almost got it

@CynningSeline

3 жыл бұрын

@@toast892 Hopefully because Peke's adorable

I think V4x is clearer and V2 is cuter. I prefer V2 because I've grown with V2 Miku and I feel robotic Miku is best Miku.

@Korogunso8

5 жыл бұрын

Both Miku’s are good it just depends on the song.

@alexthejapanfan7905

4 жыл бұрын

And all of them and specialty V4X As of right now Can BE and Is The Best Version Of Miku's Voicebank Ever! Even In the right Hands! :) :D

@jermfanaccount

4 жыл бұрын

i love v2 miku. i grew up with her and i just love her voicebox and design.

@alexthejapanfan7905

4 жыл бұрын

@@jermfanaccount nostalgia, something that you should probably put aside if you really want to give something a fair shot.

@inotfunny8506

4 жыл бұрын

@@alexthejapanfan7905 I don't really have nostalgia for it my self. I became part of the fandom this year but looking back I actually kinda prefer the original sound

Idk... Something about V2 really packs a punch and feels like home to me. V4 sounds really realistic and sometimes it's better to have robotic sounds.

@JRacc97

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It’s nice to see Vocaloid taking a more realistic approach in recent years, but it feel pretty jarring at the same time. Just sorta feels like almost every producer these days are trying to copy Mitchie M or something, and it’s kinda already gone beyond that point since V4. Sometimes I think the overall “robotic” nature of the Cryptonloids’ V1 and V2 voicebanks suit their style a lot better. Would be nice if most Vocaloid editors came with an option to turn off triphones to make them sound closer to V2-era voicebanks.

@MattCatto

5 жыл бұрын

JimimsWeeb, me too!

@meiko5027

4 жыл бұрын

Gray Jasons WAIT WHATT?

@inotfunny8506

4 жыл бұрын

@@JRacc97 well it seems to be taking a more robotic aprouch with NT

@vforflower4339

Жыл бұрын

Why I got v2 instead of v4 tbh, I just like the voice more

Kinda wish they’d port miku v2 into some kind of native voicebank, her tone in v4x is slightly off and i feel miku v2 has the iconic miku voice just a tad more

@hectordanielhernandezmaldo

4 жыл бұрын

I think that with tuning it doesn't really matters, but I haven't buy any vocaloid yet so I don't really know.

@achannelh6101

4 жыл бұрын

Danieru Mega tuning is more of a layer onto the original voicebank underneath, so it does matter even if really well tuned. That’s why rin and len sound a bit different compared to now, because their v4 packages don’t come with a recreation of their vocaloid 2 main voices (instead they use v2 append power as a substitute) unlike miku v4x.

@Lemieux_channel

4 жыл бұрын

Good news! They are trying to replicate the sound of V2 with a new version called Miku NT. However, it ended up sounding a bit too childish (at least in the demo prototype version we have) and most people don’t like it🙁

@fawn5159

4 жыл бұрын

NT Miku sounds like V2

@achannelh6101

4 жыл бұрын

@@Lemieux_channel yeah i preordered her the day the news came out! her pronunciation is really similar to V2 and she has the same low end as miku V2 too, but she is sort of choppy and noisy to work with. with enough tuning you can get her to sound pretty good although the noise is still there. i personally don't think NT gets enough credit from people, but it's also got issues which should be dealt with, especially the engine noise.

I love how I can slightly hear her vocal fry everytime she spell the "I" letter

@boxofswords

4 жыл бұрын

vocal fry? :O

@jessicadlabura1079

4 жыл бұрын

when ?

@pennenoodles

4 жыл бұрын

@@jessicadlabura1079 1:08-1:09 with headphones you can hear it a little (also nice pfp 😎)

@Snowyoaks2

4 жыл бұрын

Penne Noodles you can hear it without headphones too

@kaca616

4 жыл бұрын

@@jessicadlabura1079 I think almost all Miku v2 songs, when she spell the "I"

It seems like V2 miku had trouble with making clear consonants when it was just one isolated syllable. Also very breathy.

yeah v4x is much more clear, while V2 is more cute and robotic, and somewhat the pronunciations are different slightly

you know, people say miku has a super high voice, but i don't think it sounds that high. i guess maybe because i've heard it constantly for so many years, but she's nothing compared to una or rana.

@MavissuLeon

4 жыл бұрын

More like a lot of people tend to use miku in a higher register than she was intended

@taigatanfan_

4 жыл бұрын

LeonArt yes! There you said it. She doesn’t even have that high voice in comparison to even Rin. So I genuinely don’t get why people tend to only use her at the higher registers.

@ngjunhaoalanng2120

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly,Miku can be high and low in voice range,though lower range do sound awkward unless it is append. Rin can beat Miku in terms of how high their voice can reach. Even Prima can be tied with or beat Miku in reaching higher notes.

@octivian

4 жыл бұрын

--kokone has entered the chat--

@dezzydream

4 жыл бұрын

@@octivian when people use kokone's falsetto properly she sounds GORGEOUS

They sound the same, V4 just sounds like it's higher quality recordings. Which given it must have been years apart is remarkable.

@JRacc97

4 жыл бұрын

They've always used the same recordings for V2/V3/V4. They just cleaned up and enhanced the samples for V4 to make it sound a little more closer to V2 Miku's tone, due to some complaints about her V3 voicebank sounding nothing like her. To be honest though, I couldn't really tell much of a difference between V2 and V3, voice-wise. She's always sounded pretty much the same to me no matter what version of Vocaloid she's been updated for. V3 English, on the other hand, sounded absolutely nothing like her though.

@NiCoNiCoNiCola

3 жыл бұрын

I think V4 just doesn't have that nostalgic robotic sound to it

@anonymousg9153

3 жыл бұрын

@@JRacc97 the different engine probably helped in making her clearer, too

@toramitoramu

2 жыл бұрын

No it's not, Miku V4 has some new recorded samples from Saki's voices, that's cause there are many difference between Miku V2 and V4, i opened Miku's voicebanks database and i saw that Miku V2 has 3 pitches, Miku V3 has 4 and Miku V4 original vb has 5, so that's cause there are many differences between both voicebanks, as you can see, they have differences in some phonemes pronunciation, also the engine and samples configuration changed the clearness and smoothness of the v4 voicebank

@15_heidune72

2 жыл бұрын

​@@toramitoramu how do you open them up?

I know Miku isn’t a real person but why does it feel like her confidence grew from V2 to V4, so proud of her 💖

@otomachirabbit.3.

3 жыл бұрын

You're right it does sound like it

"puto" "pito" miku WHAT tha heck!! D:

@sphynx01astrea40

5 жыл бұрын

x"'DDD

@turquoise4636

5 жыл бұрын

LOL 😂😂

@yoshydominguis7771

5 жыл бұрын

Spanish comentario but also inglés, you sabes?

@biancasilva7851

3 жыл бұрын

Nooo miku es de latinoamerica noooo

@gastonnicolassilva7432

3 жыл бұрын

@@yoshydominguis7771 xD

V4 is a blessing

no one: my adhd: 0:50

@chiaisannoying

3 жыл бұрын

LMFAO RELATABLE

@retsuretsuko

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@makarmakarov000

4 ай бұрын

fr

For those wondering, they're singing the Japanese alphabet. The alphabet is sectioned off in rows of different types of sounds. The first row is the "vowels", with a, e, u, e', o. And then rows of "consonants". Hard consonants, like those with hard C and K, sounds have a row, then consonants with the Sh sound, and so on.

I love V2 sooo much!! Listening to those old Miku songs that are like about a decade old makes me feel so nostalgic, even tho I just joined the fandom over three years ago xD

@dezzydream

4 жыл бұрын

I joined the fandom in 2011 and listening to old music literally makes me cry from the nostalgia. I can't believe some people still think music can't have an impact on someone's life.

@AngelRinKagamine

4 жыл бұрын

I joined the fandom 6 months ago already feel nostalgic 🙈

@vistystella

4 жыл бұрын

@@dezzydream Same I just love vocaloid so much

I feel like the V4x is a softer tone while the V2 is "sharper", y'know?

@LyraPyxisVT

4 жыл бұрын

It's softer cause I think they are trying to go for a Human like voice

@NiCoNiCoNiCola

3 жыл бұрын

@@LyraPyxisVT it is human voice It's prerecorded

@LyraPyxisVT

3 жыл бұрын

@@NiCoNiCoNiCola ok

@MagicUnicrnYT

2 жыл бұрын

@@NiCoNiCoNiCola They mean to make miku sound more human...

@user-mg9xx1hg2i

2 жыл бұрын

IKR! V4 sounds sweeter, but I prefer the sharper thone. (it's my opinion)

I honestly like both. They both sound good in different ways

Too bad we don't do this to warm up in choir lol

@petitpois23

3 жыл бұрын

become a choir director and you can be the first!

@anthophiliia

Жыл бұрын

That'd be so much fun

you guys seem to forget saki fujita isn't 22 anymore and is bound to sound different with age

@Sinc3r3ly

3 жыл бұрын

The voice recordings are exactly the same . They (Crypton , presumably) just made them sound higher quality

Hearing V2 just makes me hear all of the iconic songs that were made with it within seconds. V4 is an improvement nonetheless.

Damn this slaps

V2 is my life

0:27 Miku says: PUTO

@Leonlais

5 жыл бұрын

0:54 and PENE

@xxjustanaveragehumanxx3779

4 жыл бұрын

Teeheehee

@ihavenocockandimustcream

4 жыл бұрын

I see your profile pic,, great taste

@polar2678

3 жыл бұрын

CUÁNTO ME TARDÉ ENCONTRANDO ESTO??? AJSJAJSJ

@Leonlais

3 жыл бұрын

poquísimo omedeto

I love voice Miku V4 Because i love Miku outfit V2! V4 voice + outfit V2= Perfect Miku!

@choerryforever

3 жыл бұрын

yes

Did you use the VOCALOID2 editor for her V2 voicebank or did you import it?

@JRacc97

5 жыл бұрын

nastysdsi I used Vocaloid2 to render it because I couldn’t find the page to buy the import code when making this. Turns out it’s only available on the Japanese Sonicwire site and not the English one :P I did another comparison with V2 Miku rendered in V2 and V4, but I have yet to upload it. Still need to wait for my new PC to come in first

@nastysdsi

5 жыл бұрын

@@JRacc97 You should also compare them with V2 in V5. Apparently, V2 in V5 fixes some pronunciation issues V2 in V3/V4 had, despite not being officially supported.

@elliot20201

4 жыл бұрын

@@nastysdsi Unfortunately afaik the file swapping to unofficially get V2s into V5 no longer works unless you're using Pocaloid. Which, if you already own the bank, go for it I suppose, but a lot of people will get pretty mad at you lol

V2 is way cuter, I can't explain why, but it's like the angelic essence of Miku I fell in love with in 2009.

Although the difference are pretty subtle,but this is what I can hear: V4x sounds sharper and clearer,while V2 sounds a bit softer,but still understandable due to software being less advanced in the past. V2 seems to hold the notes a bit in each syllable while V4x is able to cut it short without holding the notes too much. Finally,V4x sounds like an improvement while V2 is the usual Miku sound. Either way,I still like both of them since they are the same Miku after all.

Miku v2 had that artificial style that sounded soft at times and unique. V4 smoothed out all that and made it sound more cutsie, squeaky like.

i feel like the v4x is miku becoming more humanlike rather than robot

@zana272888

4 жыл бұрын

It's is

@LyraPyxisVT

4 жыл бұрын

One day she gonna sound Human and people gonna be confused, rn I don't think her v4 is exactly human like but it's getting there

Everyone: _talking about which one is better_ Me: *_wait these are different?_*

this brings comfort to my ears

Miku: *is supposed to spell the Japanese alphabet* Miku: *SUDDENLY STARTS RAPPING*

I HATE HOW I LOOK AT V4X MODEL NORMALLY AND I LOOK AT V2 AS A MEME, ITS SO ICONIC AND ITS THE OG STYLE BUT ITS JUST SO MEMEY

@jadebayoba7073

Жыл бұрын

THE FACE, THE PONYTAILS, THE POSE

@jadebayoba7073

Жыл бұрын

Also R&C came with V2 so i hear Doriko in every sentence and im here for it

I think v2 miku somehow sounded way more expressive at the “p” sounds

everyone gansta until they start speaking enchantment table

@people6117

2 жыл бұрын

Thats really xenophobic dude, and I hope you changed over the course of the year. Yikes. Those “jokes” arent okay.

@MewwNew

2 жыл бұрын

@@people6117 bruh wdym sob

@people6117

2 жыл бұрын

@@MewwNew ...Saying Japanese is “speaking enchantment table” is XENOPHOBIC dude.

@MewwNew

2 жыл бұрын

@@people6117 that wasnt what i was going for but okay

finally I can actually see the difference clearly, at 0:16 it's really clear that the new sound is smoother

Why is this super soothing to listen to? hahaha I could just keep replaying this over and over again.

idk why this is so relaxing and calm it’s like asmr

everyone: *talking abt which they prefer* me: *why does miku lose hair in each release*

V2 is so 2007 feels.

0:26 me dijo put0? OMG 88 LIKES WTF?!

@eatyourvegitablespt.262

4 жыл бұрын

LOL

@mlady95

4 жыл бұрын

ella lo dijo

@wuajaja5220

4 жыл бұрын

Dijo poto, miku te me caiste🤧

@valentinamf7363

4 жыл бұрын

Jajaja eso mismo había pensado

everyone prefers v2 and talks about v4 and i just sit in the corner with my favorite miku being v3 haha i love all the mikus though! ' v ' )/

V4x=oh Miku upgrade with more realistic but still keep a bit robotic V2= h o m e

it feels weird being the only vocaloid fan who has been here for three years :’D

V2 sounds the most Miku if that makes sense. But I still love V4

Awesome tuning!

Wow, V4 has made some real improvements!

The beginning of V2's speech practice sounds like when that one kid with T-Mobile internet is glitching out during online school

they feel so innocent and cute! i luv it!

Can i just say i love both

I like how they're called V2 and V4x, because it just saying they're different versions, not that one is better than the other. I think they both sound good!

I don't know why but I unironically listen to this

I like the robottic voice a lot, glad im not the only way feeling that way, however i appreciate the technological advancements with 4 a lot

Every Miku is special to me, her voice just makes me emotional in general. I think the old Appends Soft and Dark are my favorites.

I like both

i mean i get the differences that each voice has, but what i want to focus on is MIKU'S MAJOR HAIR LOSS

Miku is the only one I have trouble understanding in a lot of songs, so the v4x is helpful for that, but I understand the “vintage” quality that everyone hears in v2.

i think both voicebanks are lovely but ooOUH the ART for the one on the right is so ,,, mmmmhhhh yyummy

I’m downloading V4X soon (or at least trying) so it’s nice to have a feel for the sound difference

Idk, but it feels refreshing 💜

the v4x is more natural than v2, they should have continued to the iconic v2 voicebank tone, but with more smooth word transitions

She's so cute 😭💙

This video sounds pretty peaceful, actually

best warm up i ever heard from miku!

2 sounds like the old creepy nostalgia and 4 sounds like your short 2021 youtube videos

V2 miku will always be my favourite, the first vocaloid I've ever heard when I was a very kid, she always makes me happy :,)

I'm not really into all that vocaloid stuff, but V2 sure does remind me of those days I used to listen to some of Miku's songs

OwO I like them!

two mikus, just singing together😳

i was waiting for their duet

So cute, love my robot girl, she’s come so far I’m so proud.

The intense balding of hatsune miku

To me, they sound the same. Except the V4x is more clearer and slightly less robotic, a little more cuter too. I like both of them in general, but I like the V4x a bit more.

its like v2 has a stuffy nose and i love it

old miku sounds like the sounds you would hear at a subway

this is cute idk why

ooh she sounds less muffled :3

0:50 made me immediately think of Black and White ward, thanks

I could fall asleep to this

When The Full Version Drop? That Was Lovely Tbh 😂

I love both V2 bc nostalgia Both bc with right tuning u can make them sound amazing V4 bc idk

I am the globglobgablala : 0:51

I like both version :)

Ah the amazing v2... Mikus Legendary era

I love V2 but I'm gonna have to pick V4 on this one

I prefer the miku v2 because when sounding more robotic, She has the lower voice. It's not to complain about the v4 enhancement, I just like classic miku more... Even if I joined the fandom a year ago.

I prefer the V4x actually, sounds nice and smooth~

To me it sounds like V4x handles choppier stuff better while V2 has a certain something to it that really shines through on the more legato parts. Both sound good and are full of Miku charm though, and maybe I’m just biased from listening to VOCALOID2 Miku for so many years lol.

V2 has a solid voice🔥🔥

V3 Miku is the beautiful marriage of V2 and V4. The best miku

i love them both equally. i guess it just depends on the song

realistic v4 can be good for some songs but i think for the most part i prefer robotic v2. the robotic feel that her voice has and that many loids have, is what makes vocaloid so special to me.

I 💙 Miku V2.

i rather the v2 one because its nostalgic to me.. i listen to only old songs so i have what to talk about

V2 Real voice V4 just a voice for the desing

@zana272888

4 жыл бұрын

If you listen closely you here how different the voices are!

@Alvaro-nl2dq

4 жыл бұрын

@@zana272888 Is just a bit different

@zana272888

4 жыл бұрын

@@Alvaro-nl2dq I know

@Alvaro-nl2dq

4 жыл бұрын

@@zana272888 Is weird how vocaloid2 trying to be more human than v3 or v4

Lyrics: V4x: [A, i, u, e, o~ Ka, ki, ku, ke, ko~ Sa ta, shi chi, su tsu, se de, soo to, naa, ni, nuu, ne, no~] V2: [A-, i-, u-, e-, o~ Ka-, ki-, ku-, ke-, ko~ Sa-ta, shi-chi, su-tsu, se-de, soo to-, naa, ni, nuu, ne, no~] Vx4: [Ha to, pi to! Pu to!! Pe to!! Po~ Ma no, mu no, mi no, ME no, Mo~! La u, li u, lu u, le u, lo~ Ka zu, ki zu, ku zu, ke zu, ko~] V2: [Ha- to-, pi- to- pu- to- pe- to- PO~ Ma- no-, mu- no-, mi- no-, ME- no-, Mo~! La u, li u, lu u, le u, lo~ Ka zu, ki zu, ku zu, ke zu, ko~] V4x: [TA BA, TA BA, TI BI, TI BI, TE BE TE BE, TO BO, TO BO, TO~ Pa n ya, pa n ya, pi n i, pi n i, pi yo, pi yo, PE N IE, PE N IE! Pi o~ I~, i~, i~, i~, i~, i~, i... Koo e, da, ne~] V2: [-TABATABATIBITIBITEBETEBETObOtObO TO~ PA N YA PA N YA pI n I pI n I, PI YO, PI YO, pe n ie, pe n ie- PI O~ I~, I~, i~, i~, i~, i~, i... Koo e-, da-, ne~]

g o o d

This even sounds like a song.

i personally prefer v2 as it makes me feel all nostalgic and cute

やっぱ無印の発声大好きだ