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Specialized DEMO 2020 Review (Suspension kinematics)
Analysis of new DEMO 2020 29er rear suspension design.
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YES IM SO HAPPY YOURE BACK!!!
@Nickporter17
5 жыл бұрын
Best news in awhile!
Where have you been man? We miss you
I am seriously stoked you're back man! we need more of this! you're valuable in the sport, for privateers and amateurs. keep it coming! you're doing a good job!
Awesome to have you back with nice and nerdy bike kinematics content! Be assured I'll take it all in. Thank you for your work!
Welcome back! Your channel is THE best! Nice work and thank you for the helpful info!
Great inside as always . So glad you did it with the new Demo
Great video and great thing you're back !
Dude welcome back! I love your content
Great analysis as always! Welcome back André, you have been missed! :)
Good to see you are back! All the best
Great to see you back to making videos!
good to see you are back!
I'm glad you're back!
Yeah you're back! I was watching your old videos from time to time, it's good to have a new one. Let's hope there's gonna be some more soon! Btw if you need some inspiration, I'm getting a new Saracen Ariel LTX in one or two month, it's supposed to be revealed in the week coming. I'd love to see your analysis of this bike. See you next time!
Excellent video you deserve some sponsors ect. Thanks for the video
A big welcome back Andre...💪
Glad your back making videos, you make great videos man keep it up!
You are back!!!! Man i miss you so bad, your work is pure gold.
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend ! :)
Thanks for your vids, Andre. You're a real crack to me and I'm really astonished about the knowledge you learned about rear suspension kinematics. Your vid's are really a good explanation for non cracks ;-) 2 thumbs up!
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Josh!! Cheers 👍
THANKS GOD YOU ARE ALIVE !! :D HAPPY TO SEE A NEW VIDEO
Yessss, you are back, best YT Channel.
Great too see you back. Could you do a review on the new Specialized enduro! :D
Been waiting for your new vids bro. Welcome back. Please do a video on the new Yeti SB 165. Thanks
Welcome back andre!
Great to have you back! Also with one of your best analysis. Hope you get to do more videos. Personally I’d be interested in the 2020 SC Hightower vs the new Yeti SB140. Also, the Forbidden Druid looks really interesting too.
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
Hi. Yes Druid looks interesting, and theres plenty of info on their site. The kinematics info look reliable. I have recently reviewed Nomad4 on vitalmtb, although not exactly the same as hightower, for sure they will share some similarities. ;)
Happy to hear frome you!
Your videos are awesome! You need to come ride and film in North Carolina and show how all this translates to bike performance/feel on the trail. We need this stuff, it's interesting and insightful, keep it up!
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Its the same latitude, I just need to cross the atlantic 😆
love your videos man! thanks for posting)
Great product- worked perfectly, no issues.
The commencal would be sweet for an analysis
Your videos are brilliant!
Hi andrex, I'm happy you're back! I wish you could do an analyse to Trek Remedy 2020 please.
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Razvan! Check it here for bike requests www.andrextr.com
Pure gold. Thaks to come back!. If you please, can you make the comparison between scott ransom and pivot firebird? (both 27.5)
Great content! Can you please analyse the Commençal Supreme 29? Cheers mate ;)
@theparkrat2260
4 жыл бұрын
+1
@justingt3rs
3 жыл бұрын
now Devinci with the idler pulley. we need an explanation !!
@worschtsemmelracing9545
3 жыл бұрын
that would be interesting. the 2021 one, maybe the mullet in comparison.
Nice to see you!
Good to see you back. Always appreciate your work! What you think about the 2018 Polygon Xquar1 with the React suspension? Would love to see you review it even though it is a 2 year old model...
Welcome back Andre. Please could you make Propain Rage Carbon 2019?
Welcome back Andre💪 What about making a review of the Polebicycle bikes, Stamina 180 for example?
The god of bike kinematics is back
yes ur back!!!
Estava sumido, portuga! Bom ver seus vídeos de novo... Abraços aqui do Brasil!
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
Obrigado! Valeu eheh
Hello Andre, big fan of your videos! they help so much to sell bikes 👌🏼 But i wanted to ask if you can Update your frame progressivity table with more and newer bikes ?
Love your content
thanks for update. maybe do some new enduro bikes analysis
Yeah, i love your channel
Sweet vid!
FYI guys hes done many analysis. Just because you don’t see a KZread video doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. His analysis on the Antidote Dark Matter made be buy it over the V10.
Great analysis! It's cool to see something like this. Maybe Saracen Myst 2019/2020 next time? Or some comparision Myst vs Commencal V4? Would you like to analyze it? These are top WorldCup models ;) I'd like more to see 27,5 that 29" but I don't know, is there any difference between these wheel sizes? Or suspension work it's still the same?
Awesome to have you back! could you analyze the Commencal meta am 29 2020?
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Filip. For bike requests please check here how to proceed: kzread.infoabout
Please do the Aurum HSP
Ok your back , then please one for the new V10 :-)
yes finally a new video
Love it, thanks!
Good stuff. I'd be interested in seeing similar for the 2020 Enduro, though expect it would be similar to this one.
@andrextr
4 жыл бұрын
I didnt look for enduro but I also expect similar characteristics
OMG so happy to see you back. Could you make Radon Swoop 170 29"? I think lots of people think of buying this bike for allround usage.
@nikon255
5 жыл бұрын
Its almost sold out :)
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
The swoop has good pedaling (anti-squats around 90-100%) and low anti-rise (near 40%). The progressivity is a bit low for LT enduro bike (with only 10%). For more hardcore trails its good ideia to use some spacers in the shock, or more HSC compression. Cheers
@hobbybikefotr8337
5 жыл бұрын
@@andrextrOhh, I didn't expect that, thank you! And whats the pedalkickback gonna be like with these spec?
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
The chain extension and kickback are porportional to antisquat amounts, so they would be the same as most enduro bikes in the market. Nothing wrong with them
Good job bro
great video, do the commencal supreme 29 please!
Great stuff as always :) can you please do the new Specialized Enduro? Pretty Please. Thank you!
@andrextr
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mattia, the new enduro should share similar characteristics since the suspension layout is also similar. But if you are interested in a detailed analysis report you can request it on www.andrextr.com Cheers.
Beautifull frame its briliant!!!
heeeeeeeesss back
Hiciste algún análisis de suspensión monopivot? Muy buenos tus vídeos. Saludos desde Argentina... :)
@andrextr
3 жыл бұрын
Yo pienso que non, pero singlepivots son lineares, y el anti squat depiende de la altura del pivot principal (100% when main pivot is on top of chain ring). Sorry my Spanish Saludos 😁
You forgot to comment one thing about the old Demo: The Pro riders were using custom links that made the suspension more progressive.... Anyway, I´m happy you are back.
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
AntonCor yes I said that in this video and in the older video. If I remember correctly the racing link increased the progressivity by around 10%, which is better but still lower than the new version ;)
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
AntonCor Hi Antonio just realized now who you are. Thanks! Cheers :)
I would love to see a video on the new canyon strive with its shapeshifter.
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Gavin, thanks! For bike requests please check here how to proceed: kzread.infoabout
Life is so boring nowadays Andrextr: *I M B A C K*
Great Video! Could you do one for the Zerode Taniwha? :)
Pls make a Video about the new gut fury
oh yeah bike world REJOICE!
Hey man, good to see you back, I remember your Capra video from years ago. Could you do the Commencal Clash?
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
Clash is nice. Pedaling is good (~100% AntiSquat on all cogs), anti-rise ~50%. Progressivity 35%. Cheers
@rich86
5 жыл бұрын
@@andrextr that's great, cheers man
Good to know you're back at it. 👍
Have review Suspension Kinematics Canyon Strive 2019 ?
Can you compare it with commencal supreme DH 29?
what about the progressive link on the old demo so 2018-2015 how much does the progressive link change the progression because im looking into getting the progressive link for my demo but idk if it really changes it that much because there is no info on their website other than specialized saying it makes it more progressive btw your vids are sick and i really enjoy watching them
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
Did the simulation in 2016 for the Gwin's Demo (with that special linkage) and it doesn't affect significantly the Anti-squat, Anti-rise or Kickback. It only increased the progressivity by around 10%. So assuming that this aftermarket linkage is the same, you will end up with a final figure close to 30-35%. Cheers
Парень ты мне глаза га мир велосипедов открыл! Делай видео еще!)))
Love it! Suspension nerds unite!!
boas, bons videos! pode analizar a specialized enduro?
@andrextr
4 жыл бұрын
Ola Vitor. A Spec Enduro é parecida nas caracteristicas, só que tem menos curso que a Demo. Tambem tem boa eficacia a pedalar (bom anti-squat) e tem uma progressividade moderada (as versoes anteriores eram demasiado lineares, usavam facilmente o curso todo da suspensao nos saltos).
Great analysis! Where do you find those detailed schematics of the bike?
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
In this case it was easy, they are on the user manual of the bike
@walterbova7205
5 жыл бұрын
@@andrextr thanks a lot!
Good day Sir! Can you make a comparison between the last GT Fury 2018 (I-Drive), and the new GT Fury 2019 and above (the one that looks like a session)? Looking to buy a DH Bike and I can get the 2018 one brand new at for much much lower than the price (1400 usd) of the new design. Thank you sir!
Same pls with the new gambler
Hello, can I ask about progressivity in transition tr11 2022?
I am 5'10" what size should I buy?
Welcome back Andrew! Can you do an analysis on the Santa Cruz Bronson 3 as well? Or the Nomad 4? Thanks!
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
Already reviewed Nomad 4 for VitalMTB. Check here: www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/Bikes,3/Santa-Cruz/Nomad-CC-XX1-Reserve,18735#product-reviews/2750/expand
Animarte a seguir André.
Can you do the same with the new gambler ?
@freddelmalrides4267
5 жыл бұрын
Er Pol x2
Please do a YT Capra 29!
I'd love to see a YT Capra 2020 model
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
The new capra is similar to the previous one, there are some tweaks but nothing major, for instance, the progressivity is slightly lower in the new model (which is still very high when compared to most enduro bikes).
@enderz4770
5 жыл бұрын
@@andrextr Yeah, rn I'm kinda deciding if I should wait for the 2020 models or just buy the 2019 capra cf pro race... can you please give me the source where you find the bike models? thanks
Fuji auric LT suspension review?
@andrextr
4 жыл бұрын
Yes. I have a website where I provide custom bike analysis reports, if you are interested in Fuji Auric review give a look here: www.andrextr.com cheers
pls, say something about gt fury lst
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
Gt fury 2019 has a rearward axle path, good pedaling efficiency, low chaingrowth and low pedal kickback. It has a progressive suspension. Cheers
Cube two15 please…
Pedal-kickback ? 15° to 20° maybe ?
@andrextr
4 жыл бұрын
Olá Carlos (PT?). I am going to make a video about PK, because I think there are better ways to show it (such as chain growth), instead of using crank rotational angles. That's because PK is hugely affected by the size of the cog and chainring (Demo uses a 34T chainring). On descending gears (small cog and big chainring) the PK is minimal, and on climbing gears its much higher. Also, and as a consequence, PK is mostly noticeable on technical climbs at slow speeds and with the chain tensioned. On descendings you won't feel kickback on pedals (because the freewheel hub let the cassete rotate forward when the chain extends and you wont notice nothing on pedals)... Having said that, you can expect some PK given the relatively high anti-squats (25º on middle cog). Cheers
can you do the norco aurum hsp?
@andrextr
4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Check www.andrextr.com for bike requests :)
New Rallon?
Ben tornato!
Is it possible to make a bike with good pedaling efficiency and no chain growth?
@andrextr
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, with an high pivot and a chain idler. There are some now in the market, Commencal Supreme V4, Forbidden Druid, Aurum HSP etc
@kotja9731
4 жыл бұрын
@@andrextr are single pivot bikes more likely to snap? I can get a good deal on a dartmoor blackbird but I am sceptical towards single pivot. Thanks
@andrextr
4 жыл бұрын
I have no idea about that. The main issue of singlepivot bikes is that they tend to be very linear (low progression) which is nice for XC and Trail riding styles, but for more aggressive enduro riding (with jumps and so on) they will bottom-out easily compared with a more progressive design
Video wish list: 1) new Scott Gambler 2) nukeproof dissent 3) new Transition tr11
the watermelon head is back :D
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
Pedal Cult lol 😂
New Pivot Phoenix vs New Polygon dh
New Pivot Phoenix VS New Intense M29
How progressive is author ninja dh team ??
@andrextr
4 жыл бұрын
Never analyzed that model, but if you want you can request an analysis report at my site: www.andrextr.com thanks
@konikvianna5635
4 жыл бұрын
@@andrextr Pls. Can you do it for free ?
have you seen new specialized enduro prototype? what do you think? www.pinkbike.com/news/specialized-enduro-crankworx-whistler-2019.html
@andrextr
5 жыл бұрын
Its still too early to comment without proper image but if it is based on Demo design it should be a good weapon. Lets wait for it