Finally, a HEMA video where the guy with the spear knows what he's doing! So refreshing!

@porkcutlet3920

2 жыл бұрын

Look up "hanmudo vs arnis". The spear user is pretty impressive.

@nickjohnson2664

2 жыл бұрын

@@porkcutlet3920 I know right! So cool! I love the spear work on that channel and the weaponism channel!

@MikeB-py4ym

7 ай бұрын

yeah, unfortunately the longsword user is clearly not used to fighting a spear

@hugoandresberriogomez9388

29 күн бұрын

Es verdad, aunque por otro lado el usuario de espada pues la verdad se nota que no tanto

@PunkRockNerd10171

3 күн бұрын

Chinese spear play is also amazing with its smart techniques

If I am not mistaken, for most of history, Swords were meant as a side arm, an emergency weapon, whilst spears were usually the main weapon, especially during open field battles.

@method2madness1

Жыл бұрын

This would make the most sense, seeing it now, I'd rather have a spear, shield and short sword, seems like the long sword is a bit underwhelming for my untrained ass.

@kennethwarring7681

Жыл бұрын

@@method2madness1 same reason why crossbows became so popular, its pretty easy to teach a peasant who has only wielded a pitchfork in their life how to stab with a spear versus fancy swordfighting techniques

@montumeroe9593

Жыл бұрын

Didn't know that thanks

@feudinggreeks3316

Жыл бұрын

"If I am not mistaken, for most of history, Swords were meant as a side arm", that's the thing. You have no idea what you're talking about and are just regurgitating comments you've read from KZread and passing on like you've actually done the research.

@feudinggreeks3316

Жыл бұрын

@@kennethwarring7681 Its not just that you would give a peasant a spear vs a sword due to a lack of training needed, but more so you could arm 10 peasants with a spear, or you could arm 2 peasants with a sword using the same amount of steel. You're maximizing the numbers in the fight. It isn't black and white as you make it. There are contributing factors to the spear vs sword debate depending on the training, the time period and availability in resources.

As a short person with short limbs, that is how it feels like trying to get close to big guys while doing kickbox sparring.😂

@moneybags183

4 ай бұрын

100% agree

Bro actually understands the spear, finally good to see that.

Interesting video. Thank you for sharing. Some tips, from a Chinese point of view, if you are interested: - The spear is primarily a thrusting weapon, so we thrust continuously and relentlessly (sliding the rear hand all the way to meet the lead hand for maximum reach) at various targets until the opponent is dead, rather than swinging or launching single thrusts - although swinging does have its uses. - We never let go of the spear with the lead hand to get greater reach. It causes us to overextend, lessens our control of the weapon and we have no way to block if he manages to counter. - We always grip right at the butt with the rear hand, thus maximising the length of the spear. If we need to strike with the butt, we can slide the rear hand. - We keep the swordsmen at spear's length, rather than moving in to sword's length. Kind regards.

@humanchannel9421

3 ай бұрын

Those aren't tips so much as a different style entirely. HEMA doesn't really need "tips". Europeans had the most successful armies of antiquity, the concept of giving those masters "tips" is kind of absurd.

@WuzuquanSpain

3 ай бұрын

@@humanchannel9421 The great thing about tips is you can just ignore them. As I said: "...if you are interested."

@alanscott7353

3 ай бұрын

@@humanchannel9421 that’s quite a rude and incorrect answer. Also, pretty easy to poke a swordsman’s who can’t close distance …

@OriginalDad

2 ай бұрын

@@humanchannel9421They aren't giving tips to the master of antiquity. They are giving tips to people who are doing recreational sparring. You could probably use some tips on how to not be an asshole.

@SumilatsFansReadURLs

2 ай бұрын

@@humanchannel9421 Not a very smart comment from you

this is just one spear. spear wall will be even more effective , exponentially

@yifan91

2 жыл бұрын

and longer spears will gradually effect aswell.

@jestfullgremblim8002

4 ай бұрын

​@@yifan91yup

@petrichor9465

Ай бұрын

Yes like the roman phalanx formation

@order66pizzas

22 күн бұрын

@@petrichor9465the phalanx is greek

Thats not what the movies say!

Shinai with Crossguard...I know them from the dark ages of HEMA. Where we all wore Larp Gambesons and had other self made gear, because there was nobody who produced gear XD

@NeymanFencing

7 жыл бұрын

Bealive or not : those have about 10 years !!! Also next time i will make close up to crossguard....its pcv pipe :P

@tojapacza

7 жыл бұрын

Ortwin vom Schildberg u had A larp gambeson and shinai u were lucky ! we had to fight in sport fencing jackets and for swords we had sticks find somewhere in woods ;-P

The guy with the spear should never stop moving the spear tip forwards then back, up and down, constantly fainting while staying safe. The swordsman will either have to react and leave himself open, or do nothing and leave himself open. And you shouldn't charge into your opponents range with a spear, you give up your advantage which is reach. Fighting with a spear against only a sword is not meant to be fair, it should be utterly 1-sided in favor of the spearman.

@voodoominerman

Жыл бұрын

also, when he charged the guy he ended up just lightly slapping him with the flat of his spearhead, which would have done nothing except get him stuck in close range next to a sword.

@krieger8825

6 ай бұрын

​@@voodoominermanGetting hit with a massive stick hurts like hell when all u have is a mail coif

@zes3813

4 ай бұрын

wrrrg

@dark6.6E-34

2 ай бұрын

@krieger8825 you know what also hurts like hell? dyeing to a sword slash

@MostafaAhmed-bp7ce

Ай бұрын

@@krieger8825hurting like hell won’t be enough during the adrenaline rush

I never realized the spear was such a potent combat weapon. I always saw it as a throw once weapon and then pull out the sword for engagement.

@mekingtiger9095

5 ай бұрын

I think you're conflating a proper melee spear with a throwing javelin, lol.

@baguettedepain3975

2 ай бұрын

Because of movies. But in reality it was the opposite.

@SparkSovereign

Ай бұрын

The Romans did do that...with the much lighter and differently balanced pilum rather than what's usually meant when you hear "spearmen". Throwing the pilum right before you reach the enemy keeps them from skewering you effectively on your way in (since you've also got a shield and armor), wherein your sword gives you an advantage because you already crossed the gap...but this requires a lot more training and discipline than basic spear phalanx or Macedonian pikemen did. You actually saw something similar emerge in the age of piracy, where pistols were generally used the way pilum were; fire on the way in to disrupt the enemy even if you miss, since you lack time to reload, then go in with a sword or axe. In both cases, this requires absolute confidence that your companions are right behind you, because if they falter you're just dead; the Romans achieved this with relentless drilling and good armor, sailors with the understanding that it was do or die and retreat was impossible. For completeness, the viking era also had a lot of swords and other small arms like one handed axes as primary weapons, although you also saw spears (such as two handed "winged" spears, which can hook shields out of the way). As with the Romans, the armor technology was effective enough to resist the age's polearms enough to close the distance, leading to a lot of tight formation combat where the extra flexibility was more useful than longer reach, or dispersed duel-like combat where sword and shield has a massive advantage over spears (which generally rely on formations or a relatively unarmored opponent). Also for completeness, lightly armored or unarmored people with halberds replaced heavily armored formations in the Renaissance era because 1) heavy enough armor to resist modern weaponry was really expensive so you couldn't actually field huge armies of them 2) advances in agriculture meant you needed a smaller portion of your population working fields and thus could levy larger armies and had a middle class 3) halberds and pollaxes are fucking terrifying, their variations allowing them to function as several of spears, hammers, picks, etc depending on how they were built. Full plate might shrug off a spear impact just fine, but it's not gonna be pleasant against a hammer or beak with 6-10 feet of leverage on it. 10 armored knights might beat 100 peasants with spears, but not 100 conscripts with Renaissance polearms and a few weeks training, let alone professional mercenaries. Basically though, swords only emerge as primary weapons when you expect to be able to close the distance due to armor or disruption, or can't use longer weapons for some reason (like castle stairways or ships). If you can actually kill or cripple your opponent with it, long pointy stick better than short pointy stick. Excellent secondary weapons though.

@stinger4712

Ай бұрын

@@SparkSovereign I can't believe I just read all that. When I see long posts I just move along. Thanks for the education.

@kman55w

10 күн бұрын

Now it all comes crashing down. The whole "Africans only had spears! Europeans Have swords and armor!". An iron spear head and punction thin steel plate....thats not even mentioning plate armor will kill you in the african environment and heat

same skill level swords has no chance...

@victorcristo7274

2 жыл бұрын

an expert longsword can beat a decent spearman over 50% of the time, because they will know that you must time a parry while rushing as soon as the spearman commits to a trust. The difficult part is not falling for fakes, and parrying efficiently while rushing forward. hard, but very consistent when well executed.

@danielawesome36

2 жыл бұрын

@@victorcristo7274 What about an expert spearman vs an expert longswordsman.

@alter5057

Жыл бұрын

so far, i saw sword losing to spear and even war flail. I too thought swords were best but it wasnt true.

@Lord_Humungus

Жыл бұрын

@@alter5057 swords are definitely very overrated, i find weapon "martial arts" are full of bullshido

@romacas387

Жыл бұрын

know how to block is the most important and o only shield can block spear

poor swords

@justinisaacrada8540

2 жыл бұрын

Swords are very effective in close quarters but sometimes expensive because it requires more metal the the Spear's spearhead which is more like a knife to short sword on a wooden shaft.

Nothing gets in Nothing gets out. Pointy stick is always a threat!

Hup hup hiyaaaaa

@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos

10 ай бұрын

I was also getting a kick out if his kiai

I love the spear. It's when the enemy is a knight sheathed in armor that the broadsword, axe, and mace come in real handy.

@mekingtiger9095

5 ай бұрын

Hence I find armored combat way more interesting than unarmored combat. Muuuuuuch more personal.

@dark6.6E-34

2 ай бұрын

Some war axes are arguably spears

@konigeurichderwestgoten4460

2 ай бұрын

@@dark6.6E-34 Battle axes or long axes. War axe is the one handed version.

@dark6.6E-34

2 ай бұрын

oh right. 👍

@kman55w

10 күн бұрын

A spear can puncture Armor.

Are there any sources that show the pool cue style thrusts that are being used? I've personally never come across any but it seems a really common thing so I was just wondering if there is a source for it.

@maxmaynard1596

Жыл бұрын

I don't a source on it, but biomechanics means it was almost certainly used for any long spear. With your off hand extended, if you don't "shoot" the spear through your loose off hand you lose a great deal of range on your thrusts, as you off hand is already partiallu extended versus the coiled strong hand.

@Jesscrayons

Жыл бұрын

​@@maxmaynard1596 I do Giacomo di Grassi rapier as well pole weapons in the same 'style' which covers bill, partisan, halberd, and javelin (which is a spear as it's the 16th c and words are weird) and it's not something you do in it and it covers making long thrusts and even doing one handed big ones. So I've been wondering for a wile now if any system has this snooker style thrust or if it's just something people are doing in HEMA but was not done. Just because it seems in the way we are sparing etc that it would work does not mean it was done (I'm not saying it was not done just if it was why have I not seen it in any sources and is there one it's in or mentioned in as something people do or something not to do). I think it is worth noting that in the di Grassi style you drive all thrusts from your core and turn in to them which is not something you could do with this snooker que style. I have fenced partisan on partisan with someone who did it and I was very easily able to parry it sending his partisan way off line each time he did it. But given di Grassi is very non linear with lots of circle steps and such him being so offline could be in part to do with that. I'd be supper interested in seeing some sort of source for it or saying not to do it as it does feel like something that should be very effective.

@rahmenhuoumenrainz

7 ай бұрын

Ancient people were not retarded, they are human just like us, if it's easy and practical to use, they defenitely used it as well.

@Jesscrayons

7 ай бұрын

@@rahmenhuoumenrainz OK so you agree no one was doing it sick

@rahmenhuoumenrainz

7 ай бұрын

@@Jesscrayons You believe our ancestors were monkeys, so yes you're right, monkeys can't do it

This is why fencing isn't historically accurate. Note that these one-offs for points are clearly not lethal. The spear guy is disarmed or dead with most of those strikes.

@rickrockreggae3719

2 ай бұрын

All the proof you need is that factions wich predominantly used the spear were all defeated by factions who predominantly used a sword.

@mybrotherdied227

2 ай бұрын

@@rickrockreggae3719name an example of that

@vojtechkorhon4159

26 күн бұрын

Source for this and proof that it came down to weapon choice instead of other factors? ​@@rickrockreggae3719

man with spear 💪swordsman 🤝

Хороший мечник. Прëт в лобовую атаку, даже не пытаясь резать правый угол. Хотя копейщик не сможет нормально защищаться слева.

Skill!

Swords are like pistols and spears are like rifles. Just because John wick(protagonist) uses a pistol(sword) doesnt mean pistol(sword) has advantage over rifle(spear)

@dark6.6E-34

2 ай бұрын

over explaining a bad analogy

Im not the one to do these unique fighting techniques and stuff but if i ever do stuff like this im just gonna doing it like I'm play for honor irl

In a touchy touchy game okay spear wins almost all the time but in context of medieval and antic warfare with armor that has to be pierced or smashed through to get to the flesh and bones I propose the idea that the chances would be evened out and perhaps even reversed in a duel situation by the fact that a sword has more weight and metal concentrated in a shorter size which probably makes it easier to leverage as a sort of can opener

@cyjuan6705

2 жыл бұрын

And spear wielders would have to commit a lot more than what we see in hema to make their blows effective which would leave them more often open for parries

@melanoc3tusii205

2 жыл бұрын

In a duel, sure. Though not because of armour penetration, swords are possibly worse at that - it's because they work better at close range.

@sym9266

2 жыл бұрын

If you can get past the spear tip you have a massive advantage-- but that's a very big if

@DavidSmith-ry3ht

Жыл бұрын

You can put a quit frankly horrifying amount of force into a spear lung

@joshuagleeson4776

Жыл бұрын

A spear can thrust straight through mail if it gets a solid hit and a good spearman will find gaps in plate. A sword would be less effective at both of these because it would first require a closing of the distance to be able to do so. The long lever the spear handle provides also means that spearhead will hit very very hard when swung by a guy who knows what he's doing.

Musashi vs Inshun

Did spear guy try to use his spear as an axe?

Looks a lot different than the movie. I get the feeling that a regular guy training one month with the spear, could realistically challenge an expert swordsman.

@samuelbishop1701

Ай бұрын

Yep Armour is where things change.

@benjaminboot2340

26 күн бұрын

Commoners mostly only had access to poles. It was the most effective weapon of choice, but this is not portrayed in glorified movies and stories...

I’m here watching sword vs spear videos after seeing Musashi Miyamoto fight Inshu just to see how it would actually be in real life

This is why people used shields in battle.

The weight of this practice spear is equal to the weight of the real spear, but the weight of the wooden spear is not the same as the metal spear

Force the swordsman to a thrust battle with footwork.

So in short the only way to beat the spearman is cutting the spear; jokes aside very nice display, most entertaining

I feel like a buckler and a shorter sword might fare better.

My only gripe with Spears in Hema duels.. (I know hema has restrictions on blunt force and restrictions in general ) But many times when shorter weapons get a hit on a spear. I can't help but feel that the spear forgets they are holding a Staff with a knife on the end. Alot of spear users I see are robotic and very stabby. I get it , it's a spear and thrusting is effective.. , but it's very predictable because they fight like thier in a shield wall they end up getting flanked like one. Spice it up with something like a love tap to the leg (Smack) and rake backwards to simulate the pointy end tearing the leg flesh for example

@dark6.6E-34

2 ай бұрын

you can spam thrusts to avoid flanks. spears are light

I feel like a bad thing about a spear that's not shown in sparring is if you stab and it isn't fatal or incapacitating, it's fairly easy to grab the spear and you're pretty much a dead man at that point... Definitely good for the warzone with allies. But as for a duel, I don't think I'd want a spear. Much prefer some good armor and a longsword and or a blunt damage weapon.

@whyamisad5740

2 ай бұрын

well, if you wear good armor then no weapon will really ever have a chance against you, except for firearms. so in the end it doesn't really matter what you've got in your hands against an armored knight or the like, most will fail. but you could get to wrestle with the knight and maybe stab him with a dagger or a knife in less protected areas. but fighting armor one on one is generally not a good idea.

@ClaimerofLoot6942

2 ай бұрын

It is not easy to grab a spear. Besides grabbing it is the first challenge. Fighting his two hands with your one hand to control it is another.

@ClaimerofLoot6942

2 ай бұрын

​@whyamisad5740 what about maces or poleaxes against armor? Blunt force could dent it and daze the opponent.

Mikiri counter

the only melee weapon better than a speear is a longer spear (until its too long and too heavy)

bu...but...the movies...

Think arm reach helps?

@sym9266

2 жыл бұрын

it absolutely does help.

The reason people dont like spears is because people enjoy the sword more theres way more strategy to it were as someone with a spear and little experience can fair quite well against an experienced swordsmen which is disappointing, also for modern day LARP kind of stuff using spears makes other peoples weapons in it pretty useless so if your favourite weapon was an axe of course youd hate people with spears because they can ruin your day thats why no one wants to admit there better. (Also once someone closes in your doomed with the spear so people prefer sword for that)

@diming7616

9 ай бұрын

how are you actively watching a video of an experienced swordsman trying to close in on a guy with a spear and then talking about how'd bad it be if that happened you're seeing what happens they get stabbed

@helmetmcbarin

9 ай бұрын

​@@diming7616 none of these swordsman did.... once your able to get in past the point of the spear there doomed there's nothing they can do to stop a swordsman once they close in past the head of the spear. Also the majority of the hits in this video by the spearman wouldn't be fatal so right after the spearman did the hit on the swordsman in this video the swordsman will have time to close the distance and kill especially if they had a shield

@Lftarded

8 ай бұрын

​@@helmetmcbarinyou do know that battlefield spears sometimes have crossguards on them to stop the skewered guy from charging through in that last second

@helmetmcbarin

8 ай бұрын

@@Lftarded good point theres many variations of spear

@Lftarded

2 ай бұрын

​@@helmetmcbarinyeah... Good "point"

no way a guy with a sword is getting close to someone with a spear

nothing beats long pointy stick

@ClaimerofLoot6942

2 ай бұрын

A longer pointier stick

@AlkiosAvainash

21 күн бұрын

A bayonet

if armor was worn that spear would not even dent the steel plating the swordsmen would step right in and kill

@user-rn6hp8hl6o

3 ай бұрын

Poor swordfag can’t accept reality?😂

@ClaimerofLoot6942

2 ай бұрын

What if the spear guy was wearing armor too?

There is a reason humans have used spears since prehistoric times.

@ClaimerofLoot6942

2 ай бұрын

Pointy sticks are just mad reliable

I don't understand why the swords men only seen to go in straight lines.

@AlkiosAvainash

21 күн бұрын

Trying to zig-zag or do any other footwork while charging leaves you open when sidestepping to a stab while charging in a straight line is faster and can get you pass the tip of the spear

Interesting fight

Nunchucks vs spear Three section staff vs spear

@LilHoss4k

Жыл бұрын

Even an untrained person would have a high chance of beating a trained person with nunchucks.

@Lftarded

Жыл бұрын

​@@LilHoss4kyou don't even need an enemy to beat someone with a nunchuck, they're already fucking themselves with that weapon

@raddledfluffy6077

3 ай бұрын

​@@LilHoss4k I would still be worried if someone is hold something in their hands to fight Especially a Stick

@LilHoss4k

3 ай бұрын

@@raddledfluffy6077 I retract my statement of "high chance" since it's been a year since that statement. But yeah I agree.

Spear is op and Sword is good

britney spears ftw

@Lftarded

Жыл бұрын

Damn, that's toxic

Tsk tsk... Ox guard against polearms, tip down.

The swordman has no chanses

@Gin-San101

8 күн бұрын

Not true

Can he grab the spear with one hand and strike with the other?

@duggeeo4147

Жыл бұрын

spearman can rip it out of hand and cut off fingers in the process

@Fermion.

Жыл бұрын

One handed grip strength is way less than two handed yank strength. Grabbing the spear would not end well for your fingers.

@Dautar748

10 ай бұрын

​@@Fermion.you dont need a lot of strenght, trust me once its grabbed youre not getting it back

@Fermion.

10 ай бұрын

@@Dautar748 Have your friend (of equal strength) wield a broom stick with two hands, and you grab it with one, then ask him to yank it away from you and see what happens. (It's just a joke. Please don't actually try this.) If it were a real spear, you're either going to let it go, your hand is going to slide down towards the blade end, causing a loss of a few fingers, or your arm is getting ripped out of the socket. Shoulder sockets aren't designed to handle that much quick, explosive force pulling away from the body.

@Dautar748

10 ай бұрын

@@Fermion. ive tried it before, wood isnt that slipery, grips arr difficult to break and yanking wont do anything , have someone grab your wrist and try to free yourself without rotating your hand Spoiler: youre not shaking them off

Swords have been romanticized and glorified throughout centuries in books and in decades through movies, and television series. Spears have been relegated, in most people's minds, as weapons used mostly for hunting for big game in large groups of men. One gets overrated while the other gets underrated. Only those knowledgeable with the history of weaponry, are capable of assesing their advantages and disadvantages. The rest of us idiots would do well in learning from these subject matter experts.

Isn't that an Estoc? That looks too thin to be longsword

@Lftarded

2 ай бұрын

Kendo sword with a crossguard (budget longsword lol)

that spear slashes and swings, wtf.. weird.

@lmack3024

3 жыл бұрын

historically, many spears were "cut and thrust" and did slashing or swinging cuts as well as straightforward thrusts. look at the shape of a naginata or partisan--both lend themselves reasonably well to tight, well-controlled cuts.

@YesthisisCharlie

2 жыл бұрын

Why not then ?

@skjorta1984

2 жыл бұрын

that sword can make thrusts, wtf.. weird.

@LilHoss4k

Жыл бұрын

cuts with a spear are more of a clearing method rather than to actually attack

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@abominableyeti5639

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

Always spear win

The swordsman is not doing it right. He should use one hand in the sword and grab the stick of the spear with the other hand.

Крестьянин с копьём

I am not saying with this strategy the swordsman always win, but if the swords man is that passive, it is more likely for him to lose to spear. at last step forward little by little

Spear advantage in space so he can hit long sword easy..

@velorn8927

3 жыл бұрын

Yes but in a real fight all that wouldn't ve sufficient to stop the longsword guy from slicing and dicing him after that first little hit Wich would on a battlefield most likely be stopped by armor

@velorn8927

3 жыл бұрын

Spear is useless in 1vs1 Its a formations weapon only useful on large numbers in that capacity the polearm is the best weapon and beats any other melee wepon easily

@udinwoery1052

3 жыл бұрын

@@velorn8927 see the video again you will know that fight 1 by 1 bro..and spear is the winner

@velorn8927

3 жыл бұрын

@@udinwoery1052 wouldt stop the swordsman they would trade of hits if the swordsman wouldnt stop

@velorn8927

3 жыл бұрын

And he can actually follow up with another strike the speaman can't

spears are lighter and faster than a sword, this gives more chances in an attack

@rekaadang

9 ай бұрын

Also much cheaper to create. Can easily be mass produced.

@Modeeus

9 ай бұрын

A standard longsword is about 1.5 kg. The longer spear is probably about the same weight but with less balance.

Spear is asilly outmatch when two swords are on the board, the scene where the sword user rushed at his opponent, he could easily win, the tech of spear is thrusting but if the sowrd user rushed, and moved a little asside the spear guy could lose since, sword user got out of his range, since hes behind the tip, yes spear user can go backwards or block it since its big stick, but there is not alot time, the sword user can go or up, it really depents on the skill, littelary every weapon can beat spear if theres enough knowledge. Ps: just my opinion, and for those "who asked", you asked since you answered this question.

I think a group of swordsmen with shields could beat a group of bowmen a lot quicker than a group of spearmen with shields could do.

I fight a spear wielder weekly in hema, I do the longsword, or sabre, and while I can block a spear until I tire out. Closing the distance for a strike is near impossible.

Any polearms can take down a swordsman or spearman

@LilHoss4k

Жыл бұрын

Spears are polearms

Untrained spearman vs untrained swordsman: spearman wins Trained spearman vs trained swordsman: spearman wins. Swords are like pistols while spears are like rifles. People prefer swords because they look pretty and fancy but spear will always kick their asses

@mekingtiger9095

5 ай бұрын

Eh, not really. Swords are more like PDWs or SMGs than pistols. A "pistol" would be something like a dagger instead. Also, this footage only proves that spears have the better "touching" potential. Which don't get me wrong, matters a lot when your objective is to avoid getting hit no matter the ciscumstances; A situation a peasant levy with not much better armor than a modern day flak jacket equivalent gambeson might encounter. But actual proper armor (or a really big shield in the case of the Romans) changes the equation by *a lot,* though.

@Gin-San101

8 күн бұрын

Not always in both cases

Spears aren't that superior as some people think. Wood part is exposed to damages and with good reflexes can easily beaten.

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