South Africa: Ramaphosa in a Fix, Democratic Alliance Sets Condition for Govt | Firstpost Africa
South Africa: Ramaphosa in a Fix, Democratic Alliance Sets Condition for Govt | Firstpost Africa
The ruling African National Congress (ANC) is reaching out to rivals to form a government of "national unity". The ANC held talks with 5 other parties over a coalition or an agreement, but no decision has been made yet. South Africa is in an election deadlock after the ANC lost its 30-year majority in the May 29 vote. Now, the opposition Democratic Alliance (DA) has given the ANC an ultimatum. The DA says it will not join government with Jacob Zuma's MK party and Julius Malema's EFF. The ANC says it has repeatedly reached out to former president Zuma's party but they refused to talk. Which way will South Africa's politics swing? Watch this video for details.
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@ShivaDelia
Ай бұрын
I believe when God blessess it exceeds beyond my expectation. I know my Father in heaven is a generous father who provides the needs of his children🥰
@ShivaDelia
Ай бұрын
I'm 37 and have been looking for ways to be successful, please how??
@muller8159
Ай бұрын
After enduring many struggles, I am now filled with gratitude for owning a new home. My family is happy, and everything is finally falling into place.
@SusanLizzy-ko1zz
Ай бұрын
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@muller8159
Ай бұрын
Sure, the investment-advisor that guides me is..
Pride leads to a fall, haughty spirit to destruction.
@GeoffreyGoga
Ай бұрын
Pppppppppp
God have mercy on our Nation! Keep the wolves far away from our land
Corrupt politicians in parliament must go to jail....
@shabnam8961
Ай бұрын
Corrupt Zionist$ First
@sR-kf9ib
Ай бұрын
Including the plundering Christians from Europe who plundered looted rsa and savaged people and slaughtered a million Africans outside rsa !☪️
@vuvufuzzy2594
Ай бұрын
…gogos and madalas must also go
@morne5831
Ай бұрын
All the world leaders is corrupt all off them We are the fools voting for them sadly tho
@truth-Hurts375
Ай бұрын
White Racists must also step aside !!!!
ANC has had the same agenda for 30yrs hoping for different results. That is insanity!
@jskok3280
Ай бұрын
Reminds me of a former blue bulls flanker who picked the ball up after every scrum, ran the same line over and over, got tackled again and again . The opposition were so used to his tactics that they virtually stood still waiting for him. He did the same thing over and over and expected a different outcome, but it never happened.
@missynomvula1636
Ай бұрын
DA for even longer. Talk about insanity!!
@caseylaurensen7360
Ай бұрын
@@missynomvula1636 the DA been working the best and most responsibly
@luckycat-tarot
Ай бұрын
@@missynomvula1636 DA 🤟
@truth-Hurts375
Ай бұрын
The Domkop DA tried it for 46 years... What is your reaction on that ????
The caliber of ANC leaders today is appalling and not satisfactory.
@chrisclayton2907
Ай бұрын
By today you mean since the last 30 years. Where have you been?!
@fortula.tichwagoramuog8784
Ай бұрын
Mandela was worse because he sold out the masses of Azania!!!
I trust in God....He saved us before at Bliedruvier...HE WILL DO IT AGAIN. PRAISE HIS NAME. LOOP UP PRAY UP WE ARE GOIING UP
@Jerome-ct5yl
Ай бұрын
Bloedrivier is just twisted white history
@KhutalaPase
Ай бұрын
What? Where are you from?
Mk...eff...anc ...are one of the same cloth...
@MordenMachines
Ай бұрын
I dont need a soothsayer to know that such comment is coming from a whte 😂😂😂
@nobelungusomngcuka3829
Ай бұрын
True
@user-zv8rn8nb8e
Ай бұрын
Uyanya didi kanina
@OxumOya-lx8mc
Ай бұрын
Coloniser land grabbers.
That is the beginning of the end of the ANC.
if you voted for the ANC don't complain you have lost your right to complain so suffer in silence
@de_Angel09
Ай бұрын
I second this comment 😂
@PhumezileGaxela-hz9ob
Ай бұрын
If you vote for DA don't complain about lack of service delivery in the townships and racism by white people which DA always protect
@EunathaFelicien-bh7de
Ай бұрын
I'm not from Africa but following what's happening there I I agree with you, you are so correct.
PRAY FOR SOUTH AFRICA. THE FUTURE OF THIS BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY IS IN DARKNESS.
@luckycat-tarot
Ай бұрын
Yes they ruined it so bad 😩😩😩😩😰😰😰😰😭😭😭😭😭
@BrianStyne
Ай бұрын
Pray, foh
@truth-Hurts375
Ай бұрын
Pray for your soul !!!!
@truth-Hurts375
Ай бұрын
@@luckycat-tarotAnd who the fuck are THEY ??? Fell free to tell us what you did from your side to make SA a better place !!! Dom Doos !!!
@GerhardtRoos
Ай бұрын
@@truth-Hurts375 "They" are the ANC. *They* were handed a first world country, but instead of using it as a foundation to build on, *they* only used it to enrich themselves at the expense of ordinary South Africans, and that's why South Africa looks the way it does today.
Definitely I understand we understand that South Africa 🇿🇦 went a long time of apartheid but still African leaders of south Africa have done nothing apart from corruption so as an African who lives outside of Africa I stand a white Race when it comes to regional development that’s why I say South Africa will improve if DA is given a chance to participate in the current political situation of South Africa 🇿🇦 we are living recent life not accent life
@stevenwilliams3015
Ай бұрын
Europe will be better off with DA. Let them go and govern Europe
@ishmaelbodumele3297
Ай бұрын
You are nonsense
@OxumOya-lx8mc
Ай бұрын
I hope you aren't black with this colonial mindset. Europeans can go govern Europe not Africa 🤮
@mduscimyhe8551
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 African leaders have done nothing.... Really...all the bad in SA is because of African leaders and the good because of the whites.... No comment 😢😢
@tsholohelomoalahi1233
Ай бұрын
Stay outside!
DA should join the platform to address the issues which they feel need to be dealt with instead of staying aside. I think this is opportunity for them and SA
@user-bz7vt6gm6o
Ай бұрын
They are racist
@suezcontours6653
Ай бұрын
No
Wake up Africa
"Who is the liar, if not the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist: he who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son also does not have the Father; whoever publicly confesses the Son also has the Father.” (1 John 2:22, 23)
as long ANC is party and active in politics ... South Africa is hopeless ...
@luckycat-tarot
Ай бұрын
All thieves and mk and eff as well
@user-bz7vt6gm6o
Ай бұрын
@@luckycat-tarotinclude the apartheid a d the racists we don't want thrm in our country
Anc is rotten..corrupt..speaker of the house 😮calling the shots and ginally got caught out!!!
@simba8665
Ай бұрын
Yet you people voted for it?
How the mighty have fallen😅😅😅😅😅
When has the cANCer ever done anything right??? Expect more of the same in za
This is not about a certain political party's interests, they must do it for all the citizens of this country .Or else every one is going to be a loser, regardless of which party you belong to
ANC, Your best bet is the DA. Reason, The EFF has its sight on making true its mantra of land aquistuon without compensation. Zuma will want to be Prime Minister.
@thobanindebele5690
Ай бұрын
Father of Tony Leon killed Solomon Mahlangu for freedom now Tony Leon is in talks with ANC 😂😂😂
@yvettepugin4035
Ай бұрын
@@thobanindebele5690Oh shut up It's thoughts like this that keeps SA in the economic rut we find ourselves. Let's look to the future. The son is not the father and cannot be held accountable for the fathers transgressions. Grow up already!
@brianmolele7264
Ай бұрын
@@yvettepugin4035 You shut up, we won't allow racist Zionist to take us back apartheid .
@justafriend3408
Ай бұрын
EFF is a more possible option, DA will be too strong for ANC to handle and I don't see Zuma working with Ramaphosa, their relationship is too damaged. EFF will talk but I don't think it will be strong enough to impose some of it's unrealistic policies.
@DumaM-ir7rk
Ай бұрын
@ yvettepugin4035 Julle vat kaans julle Afrikaner
The ANC can go now. They had thirty years and messed up
@cjt6946
Ай бұрын
Anc is a black man hope same as EFF & Mk
Where did this ANC woman come from? I never heard one thing she said😮😮
Some Anc members dont want DA becos they will keep tabs on everything that they will be doing
@TshuTshi9642
Ай бұрын
Untrue. DA isn't in the best interest of the Rest but the West. Unless you were born after 1990s. By the way I'm not ANC voter.
@listenup2882
Ай бұрын
Those racists only care about white people.
ANC just step down, We don't want you!!!!
@mikeilikeit9685
Ай бұрын
Yaaa makwelele white is in you youe time to ruler is over now is dark no more pigm
@shawday7911
Ай бұрын
Of course you would like that, go back to the old ways of former colonial rule
Proverbs 24:17 KJV - Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:
Seems like this country has became a fighting battle between parties.
Taking a stance, to form coalition with ANC favorable parties, Will once again discredit their ability to rule South Africa.
Rise black nation do the right thing know your files
DA FOR ME
How on earth can you form a coalition with parties that disagree with eachother...their voters vote for them because they want change......only to end up being back in partnership with the party they voted against initially
@mzansipunters4295
Ай бұрын
because no matter how different you are, election results can force you sacrifice and form some sort of conditions, not that you agree on policies but to survive the storms and put the country forward.
@etrivas1
Ай бұрын
New elections would solve the deadlock if parties can not agree to a government of national unity. The DA and EFF can not dictate the terms and conditions. There needs to be compromise and humility. No egocentric mindset.
@jskok3280
Ай бұрын
@etrivas1 - That applies to the ANC as well. They are not in a position to dictate.
@luckycat-tarot
Ай бұрын
Yup it makes no sense ...this is nuts.. we are a laughing stock around the globe 😢😢😢😢
@millionare-ek3ro
Ай бұрын
Even in America they do form bipartisan congress
Baba Zuma u have really been given another breath of life u dance n are fitter that a teenager ...hope no one mentions court again because then u will be very ill again 😮
ANC and the people of South Africa have learned a lesson. The best way forward now is to go back to elections because no party can form a Government without the support of others. Due to stalemate and for purposes of peace I advice South Africa to conduct another elections as mandated by the constitution.
@Godisgood1980SA
Ай бұрын
You are dreaming
@user-jw2do1bs3b
Ай бұрын
@@Godisgood1980SA I am a Kenyan having no political interest in South Africa but because of African Brotherhood and the fact that we Kenyans we have gone through such experience I was giving my advice for the purpose of South African stability and development. Otherwise you have all rights to choose your own destiny.
If DA,MK and EFF as opposition parties are in a mission to move South Africa forward , can they please capitalise on the loopholes that ANC has made and form a strong governance with out ANC involved
@preachingflamesthepreacher3894
Ай бұрын
That union will be the end of South Africa; USA is salivating for an opportunity to satisfy their "self-aggrandized status."
The ANC needs the democratic aliance
🇯🇲💯Just call another election so the people can make the final decision.
Am not a South African citizen but to do a coalition with MK orEFF is like bring back the prodigal son's better ANC an DA
@NEOzzzar
Ай бұрын
Nope fuck MK
We can only hope for an ANC and DA coalition.
Let them use game theory DA and ANC can make a good coalition
She must teach the other analyst how to do the job, impartial
Life will humble u ANC if u operate in isolation/ discriminations . You reap what u sow. What good lesson you were taught.
What ideas bring God back into South Africa. He is the only way. The truth is light towards in God's eyes. Therefore, stop thinking negatively . God created all of us. And we are supposedly to love one another and find a suitable way going forward. Rooting out corruption and punishing those who are greedy. Money is a root to all evil.
Its about time for ANC to go
@shawday7911
Ай бұрын
Coming from a descendant colonizers 😮
We are watching you!
Anc will go with eff and mk. Biggest mistake in the history of SA
@user-dz9qd2lu4t
Ай бұрын
Neither would the greater poorer community benefit with going into alliance with the DA,that is clearly the case here in Western Cape cause i live here ❤
@ntombiyekhayarejoicesiband3625
Ай бұрын
If I may ask why would it be the biggest mistake if it stands to benefit the masses.
@princebond
Ай бұрын
@@ntombiyekhayarejoicesiband3625ANC, MK and EFF are birds of the same feather who just have differing views here and there. Nothing much will change in accordance to nature of governance.
@siyandamolefe1867
Ай бұрын
Please don't say that that will be terrible for the unemployed of this country we want jobs or to immigrate even that will get harder if mk and eff are part of this
We as the people of the Western Cape must force a split and stand alone as a independent country the anc stands with Russia and China we don't want that we prefer to remain independent away from any conflict but the anc government are also communist themselves so we need a split by peace or by force
@annamojapelo2292
Ай бұрын
Israel Palestine in the making.Wow
Why are ANC politicians quiet on the nonsense Cyril cooked
Ramaphosa needs to resign
@Bhebe40
Ай бұрын
He's not going anywhere
Africa! Africa! here we go again with me, me, and me. And only me. I used to believe this country was one of the best in the continent. Now I am uncertain, I was blindfolded in my memory. This makes me wonder why the Three black African parties can not sit and see eye to eye about moving forward with the country's belligerent black poverty? Me, me, me, me and only me. The question becomes: where are Malema, Zuma and Ramphosa, all thinking about at least the country's poor, poor blacks in the majority and continuing to defy all collations. I can see that not only Cows are laughing stock.
So are we saying that teaming up with the DA is the logical thing to do?
Karma for Ramaphosa that stick his head into Hamas/Israel by dragging Israel into ICJ. He reaps what he sowed.
ANC-DA coalition will be the best thing that ever happened to SA, DA will keep them in check, ANC will work hard to regain trust from disgruntled voters, meanwhile DA will also work hard to prove to South Africans that it can run the country. MK and EFF have disatrous policies for the economy, they want to nationalise everything under the sun and SA will experience major disinvestmets as the counrty will become socialists state, that ofcourse comes with disastrous consequences. Those who trust MK & EFF, you can kiss goodbye the future of your kids and let them experience sodom and gomora.
@michellebotha7148
Ай бұрын
Agree
@michaelstamike
Ай бұрын
ANC-DA coalition will be the best thing for the white supremacy
ANC will never give up
Gogo ANC
Vivi anc build GNU with all the parties those who voted by the people of South Africa to be represented in the national assembly, parties those who have no problem agreeing, with them those who don't want to go forward leave them alone.We are all south African under one government black and white Amen.
Its doing what is best for the country now which will take the country out of the troubles of load shedding, corruption, crime poor service delivery etc etc
Go with the 3
@luckycat-tarot
Ай бұрын
Nah 2 ...DA + ANC = ✌
Cyril + DA = perfect coalition ✌👐🤟✊👌🏻🤝🤞🤞🤞🤞👍👍👍
@brianmolele7264
Ай бұрын
For you
@luckycat-tarot
Ай бұрын
@@brianmolele7264 hehe ..wrong ! For majority of us !!! The ones who actually have a brain
Never underestimate the power of the Yin and Yang. We need 2 perspectives
Suggestion:send a team of five to Zuma to persuade him to join in the formation of GNU if this is to be successful. We do not want him to be the spoiler in South Africa!
South African Citizens should be GREATFUL FOR A N. C. ALLIANCES, not mentioned. To Allow ANC to continue, ANOTHER 30YEARS MISREPRESENTATIONS.
Parties with farr different manifestos to work together 😳 how??? Unless these politicians are still lying to us, all they need is the positions not to serve the interests of the citizens. This is not what we voted for
@joannebottcher9779
Ай бұрын
They must. We expect them to.
Y cant we have 2 parties .....these plenty of parties its a worst of time
Anc has lost the soul of People of South Africa.
I think Zuma is a very selfish person
@Lischlee
Ай бұрын
He does not care & respect the voters of this country.Narcistic in action.Maybe he is planning a coup to become a president again.
@mzansipunters4295
Ай бұрын
selfish is understatement, that man is evil.
@Guess2know
Ай бұрын
And to old, we need fresh thinking people.
@luckycat-tarot
Ай бұрын
Corrupted...selfish ...greedy ...thief ...belongs in prison !
@Oceanwaves329
Ай бұрын
@@mzansipunters4295 Good comment, so is Rhamaposa and the cronies of the ANC!!!!!
ANC useless just give DA
@luckycat-tarot
Ай бұрын
Yeah why they still debating ...DA is our last chance to save this country
Negociate, based on what? As South Africa has no money? Who will they be Tricking?
Conceptually, the current situation in South Africa warrants a COALITION GOVERNMENT, not a GOVERNMENT OF NATIONAL UNITY.
Yeah thats a double level drop 4 anc, nice move, go 4 the da , I'll cover my bros
@user-bz7vt6gm6o
Ай бұрын
Not fir very long
@user-bz7vt6gm6o
Ай бұрын
Not fir very long
@user-bz7vt6gm6o
Ай бұрын
Not fir very long , MK. Is around
The ANC has had the same age da for 30 years only the DA can save South Africa
@EFB-ql4uv
Ай бұрын
ANC is afraid that the DA will tackle the corruption inside the government. For 30 years the ANC looted the country dry with corrupt tenders. The only way forward will be a ANC/DA/IFP coalition. 1994 power shifted. 2024 the voters voted for a power shift.
@elijahzulu6393
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mmmmm a! A game
Hi, jaffa gate guy in Jerusalem, I was denied my constitutional right to vote in SA elections in Tel Aviv.
@SDav21
Ай бұрын
Probably because they don't want the genocidal maniac apartheid place called Israel to have any say in what happens here. Why would you want to vote when you are not even here but in israhell? If you support Israel and what they're doing then you don't have a right to vote. Apartheid ended in South Africa and it is no longer supported here.
@SDav21
Ай бұрын
Apartheid ended in South Africa a long time ago. We don't need a vote from someone living in and supporting an apartheid state of israel.
ANC-DA-IFP coalition is the best option
@MthobisiAyandaMntungwa
Ай бұрын
Not here in our country South Africa
@dreemwurks
Ай бұрын
Remove the DA (old National Party) from that equation.
@eunallmaharaj8583
Ай бұрын
ANC...IFP....EFF...PA....
@eunallmaharaj8583
Ай бұрын
Positions....ANC ( PRESIDENT ) IFP ( DEPUTY PRESIDENT ) EFF (FOREIGN AFFAIRS ) PA ( HOME AFFAIRS)
@elsabadenhorst9746
Ай бұрын
@@dreemwurks Not true go and google to educate your self😂😂😂
We stand with DA
@cefasfah85
Ай бұрын
Do you know politics?
@Guess2know
Ай бұрын
DA is the only hope left, this other nonsense parties is poison for SA
@antonymangaara2022
Ай бұрын
Happy s lave
@luckycat-tarot
Ай бұрын
Yeah DA is the best bet ...the rest is bakwas !
@princecharles421
Ай бұрын
@@cefasfah85 definitely I understand we understand that South Africa 🇿🇦 went a long time of apartheid but still African leaders of south Africa have done nothing apart from corruption so as an African who lives outside of Africa I stand a white Race when it comes to regional development that’s why I say South Africa will improve if DA is given a chance to participate in the current political situation of South Africa 🇿🇦 we are living recent life not accent life
Will you in West nooooooo SA
Coalition is a synonym for "hung Government". Everything in limbo, walk outs from meetings, lack of consensus or vision...the list goes on. Progress for the country? 😉😉
@Oceanwaves329
Ай бұрын
I whole heartedly agree with you. All of the ANC and President should fade into the sunset, perhaps democracy will prevail.
If the ANC ever dares form a coalition with DA it will be done as a political party.
No to DA no to mk
the radicals must go with MK and EFF and the ANC members that are really interested and committed to build the country, must work with the DA and other parties
@mristomanyakanyaka1298
Ай бұрын
Exactly that will work for this country because, for now, it's about revenge, not for the people of this country.For 30 years, all the MK members they were part of the ANC until Mr Ramaposa became the President of the organization and of the country that is when the division started up until the birth of the MK this year...
@missynomvula1636
Ай бұрын
Where should the DA radicals go?
@brianmolele7264
Ай бұрын
You mean the racist DA that's building and selling the country to USA, FOH
@luckycat-tarot
Ай бұрын
@@missynomvula1636 DA radicals will stay in SA , and fix the mess created...the rest will have to go 😂🤣✌hehe...Zimbabwe is an option
@kusaselihlengubane8984
Ай бұрын
VF+
Any deal between the ANC & DA will see further dwindling in ANC as a party! The other side parties will have a field day roadting ANC!
Looking back at history one can see that there may be big trouble ahead. Remember that Dingaan killed his own brother, Shaka for power? 🤔
Africa is bigger than all of us its 1.5b
Let's all recall the person who gave Solomon Mahlangu death sentence before we can stand to agree to coalite with DA
@theestherrise
Ай бұрын
That's not factual. ..
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb
Ай бұрын
Let's all never forget the people who cried about apartheid but added 113 laws to it whilst lying to the international media. Let's all never forget the people who demanded socialism from a minority who's land they stole, let's all never forget the black populism communist lies and people who still today cannot wipe it's own arse but blames western powers who supported you when your own African Islamic brothers of north Africa sold you as slaves. Solomon Mlangu was a communist, you a communist that's why you a miserable hated person noone owes anything too
@adaat713
Ай бұрын
@@sanelethabethe7152 It's a great shame that the truth is not important anymore. It was not Tony Leon's father, nor was Tony Leon the founder of the DA. Solomon Mahlangu would be ashamed that he gave up his life for the freedom of his people, who dishonour his memory espousing lazy nonfactual nonsense.
@Tollie_Tollie
Ай бұрын
lets not forget the involvement of zuma and ramapoesa in marikana
@colbyjones9059
Ай бұрын
Lets all recall how many people Zuma and Ramaphosa have pushed on or below the poverty line through their corruption and rape of every industry this country has. This poverty has likely killed far more people but you'd never want to go there...
Its a good lesson to all belly parties that crime doesnt pay.
ANC and DA is the best option, because of difference of views. A coalition between ANC and MK will bring nothing new.
This polical analyst is the only analyst I have heard whos spoken about everyparty without slander. People should learn from her
Hehehe, you fired, spokesperson
Wake up southafrica
National unity that's a Zimbabwean model
Where is the Vice President in all of this? What is Cumma Hairy there for in all of this as the VP. No one is talking about?
The ANC still holds the cards. Let's hope they remove the two jokers {MK and EFF) and chooses to work with the Democratic Alliance which is the party of results. Rhetoric won't solve the energy and water crisis. Only action will.
YHOOOOO ZIYAKHALA MR PHALA PHALA
Go back to elections! Period
Some people just want to bring back apatheid.
Anc is a curse
@mristomanyakanyaka1298
Ай бұрын
If ANC is cursed what about its childrens which are MK,EFF,COPE,etc since they all break from their mother organization which is ANC...?
@luckycat-tarot
Ай бұрын
@@mristomanyakanyaka1298 exactly ..why are these people commenting so dom !
@turmoil4360
Ай бұрын
@@mristomanyakanyaka1298 same same. It's the leftist destructive mentality
NO,,,DA,,,NO,,,MK,,,aliamce
South Africa it will be battle field just now 😢😢
ANC wants a National Coalition coz if it chooses DA, in the next elections ANC percentage will significantly dropped.
WHY ANC AND NOT I.F.P/U.D.M/P.A AND OTHER SMALLER PARTIES
It is clear from the comments that few people understand the intricacies of South African politics and almost nobody knows what THE CONSTITUTION requires now with regard to forming a coalition government. Coalition governments are not the end of the world. It is common in Germany, etc. If South Africans of different parties work together for what is best for the country and its people, things could be better than before!