Maybe we have a different definition for shred. Because Corgan shreds like a beast, imo.

@cdreyes81

6 жыл бұрын

For sure. They mention he's not shred when they weren't shredding.

@loganpriest6029

5 жыл бұрын

Haha I found that funny because they play I am one and that clearly has some sick shredding licks

@TheFeralEngineer

4 жыл бұрын

Came here to say that as well... Dude's fingers move like lightning when he wants them to

@lmaook14

3 жыл бұрын

I ran to the comments as soon as i heard that

@andrewpappas9311

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, his early stuff on Gish was freaking insane

"he's not a shred guy" - Billy was in a metal band called Hexxen before Pumpkins and tranferred loads of shredding licks and solos into his later work. There's metal solos all over pumpkins stuff, just with a different tone and approach.

@cdreyes81

6 жыл бұрын

I was just thinking that. Good call. There's definitely bits of shred sprinkled everywhere in his music

@coffeecomics3583

5 жыл бұрын

His 1st band was the Marked.

Billy Corgan is clearly the most underrated “shred guy”, of his era! Haha

@caidenwalters6301

3 жыл бұрын

Of any era for that matter, definitely a top 100 guitarist.

@chasecoats146

3 жыл бұрын

Caiden Walters i’ve been saying that my entire 13 years on this planet

8:05 billy not a shred guy??? have you not listened to any of gish/siamese dream? there are some wicked solos on those records..

@KeeperOfPoops

6 жыл бұрын

Soma

@Unsubscribedd

6 жыл бұрын

William Allison Exactly!

@Lance37a

6 жыл бұрын

viktor knezevic yes some of his solos are pretty fast.

@kristopherryanwatson

6 жыл бұрын

not to mention Geek USA and Quiet. the solos Billy does in those songs are insane.

@DarthEcoli

6 жыл бұрын

His pre pumpkins band when he was still basically just a kid, he was completely a shredder. He might have toned it down throughout the years, but he's still got chops.

Did you say Billy Corgan isn't a shred guy? Have you listened to the solos on Siamese Dream? Did you see them live during that era?

@KeeperOfPoops

5 жыл бұрын

Soma

@bubbabigmin

5 жыл бұрын

@@KeeperOfPoops do you come on here once a year or something to comment that? Does Soma have a solo on it or something? XD

@andrewpappas9311

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, even his stuff on _Gish_ is freaking interesting. When I first heard I Am One I was absolutely blown away

@nesfan8

4 жыл бұрын

Or just search a video called Billy Corgan Guitar Solo 1985. There 18 year old Billy shreds so hard

@babyyoda3467

4 жыл бұрын

Geek USA is a good one

Yaaaay!!!! One of my favourite bands - you guys did a great job :-)

@michael350p6

6 жыл бұрын

Mine too!

@michael350p6

6 жыл бұрын

Sound like Weezer?

@jtrivers3775

6 жыл бұрын

CHAPPERS!

@mpactdesignmedia

6 жыл бұрын

I'll be seeing them in 5 days in Oklahoma City! Feel like a kid at Christmas!!

@TheDoubleGGMan

6 жыл бұрын

mpactdesignmedia saw them In Dallas on the 18th of July it was badass.

1- use a strat 2- use a JCM800 on low sensitivity master cranked and use preamp as your volume 3- OP AMP*** Big Muff pedal. 4- not a shred guy...? 🙄🤦‍♂️

@beanvillen24

4 жыл бұрын

Right!!!

@zXobusterXz

4 жыл бұрын

it would also help to load your strat with lace sensor single coil config humbuckers

@ComeInAlone00000

4 жыл бұрын

this is like dollar store discount rob and lee

@kevinkibble8342

4 жыл бұрын

Without busting the bank, the video says

For Smashing Pumpkins in regards to Billy Gish: Strat with regular single coils (Billy's was a 70s with flat pole pickups) while plugged into an ADA MP-1 Preamp using his Marshall JCM800 (modded to use KT 88 power tubes) as the power amp. Pretty straight forward other than some leslie type effects for Crush. Siamese Dream: Strat with lace sensor pickups into an opamp version Big Muff (Plenty of clones online) into just the JCM 800 while using a MXR Distortion II for guitar solos. As far as effects, EHX Micro Synth for the melting guitar solo effect on Today, Ebow for the infamous 40 guitar track part in Soma, and just about a lot of other ones. Mellon Collie: Strat with lace sensors still plugged into a Marshall JMP-1 Preamp utilizing an Eventide Harmonizer rack unit for his trippy effects along with other rack units and being powered by the Mesa Strategy 500 Power amp (The power amp was what gave that JMP-1 the low end...pretty sure he used KT88s in that too) as far as effects...mainly rack units and a few pedals along the way. Haven't really taken the time to check up on his recent rig but lately but that's the quick summary of it. James Iha usually had the same gear with a few different effects here and there like the Digitech Rack Unit for the solo to Zero.

@Breaker197

4 жыл бұрын

Love how much you know. I've always been a casual Pumpkins listener, and remember when my friends got into melancholy back in the day. Being a metal guy that's also a recent strat convert, and kinda wanting to stick to single coils, I find myself taking more of an interest these days. Particularly, Zero is often stuck in my head. I know their crunch sound is fuzz based, and it sounds pretty awesome imo. What I'm really curious about atm tho, is what in the living hell James Iha is doing with that solo in Zero. I just figured he was doing some whammy/pitch shifting, a la Tom Morello. From watching a couple live videos though, it looks like he's using a sharpie or some kind of pen as a slide. His strumming technique makes me wonder if he uses it as a strumming implement as well. Perhaps you could shed some light here?

@W0oDy97

4 жыл бұрын

Any info on what he's using for the stratospheric bends in the cherub rock solo?

@Guacavelli

3 жыл бұрын

@@W0oDy97 not completely sure but from what I remembered it was naturally flanged by slowing down the tape by hand for the whooshing sounds while he bends. I'm pretty sure there might be the microsynth in there as well.

@Guacavelli

3 жыл бұрын

@@Breaker197 live, it might be the whammy setting on the Digitech rack unit set to two octaves up and he just screws around with it or maybe plays some scales. James was using that setting on other songs.

@darklinkduck2275

3 жыл бұрын

@@Guacavelli billy used the elctro harmonix electric mistress for the Leslie effected on fish and a little on Siamese he also used a orange on some track on melon collie

Disagree with the guitar choice as it wasn't used on any of their classic recordings. Needs to be a 70's looking stat with lace sensor pickups, or other humbuckers in a single coil form factor. I would have gone for a squier deluxe hot rails strat (even looks like the old billy corgan signature fenders). A big muff, mxr distortion +, and some kind of phaser

@JazzyCurtains

7 жыл бұрын

Great shout mate

@chriscuthbertson

7 жыл бұрын

Robindra Neogi Yeah, but they probably wanna sell some of the reverend's.

@mattgilbert7347

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, sounds about right to me, but I am a little unsure about the latest MXRs. If you can find one of those old early 80's MXR Dst+, try it with a Muff. Pretty sure he used the old ones. I'm going to try a Red Witch distortion into a Muff Pi.

@racistnice4652

7 жыл бұрын

Big Muff Pi + MXR Distortion + MXR Phase 90 (Speed all the way down) + Boss Harmonizer + Boss DD-7 (Reverse setting). Boom. Basic Siamese Dream rig.

@rbndr

7 жыл бұрын

I agree it doesn't have to be the same exact gear, but disagree they got the sound right, it sounded too muddy to me and only focussed on one aspect of their sound rather than the dreamy spaced out bits that are just as important. I just don't think it was particularly informative, Corgan signature guitar and big muff are obvious choices that people could arrive at after a cursory google, would prefer these videos go into some detail of the key equipment a band used and how it contributed to the sound, in this case 70's strat with lace sensors, and then make a case for another guitar being able to get the similar sound, the reverend guitar is very different I think. With the pedals, big muff is a solid choice, but there are many cheap alternatives that are just as good, and then they could have incorporated a phaser and delay for the more quieter parts. Could have also discussed dual fuzz pedals like the devi ever rocket that give both a solid rhythm fuzz, and the super nasal lead tone, maybe touched on his Corgan's use of the EHX micro synth for lead tones, or even e-bows. I know they have a limited budget and are limited by the stock that is in the store, but think this was a missed opportunity as the Pumpkins really had some of the best and most varied guitar textures

Billy Corgan is not a shred guy??? 🤔😂 god, he’s such an underrated guitarist.

Y'all haven't done STP yet. Btw this is a great episode and y'all always do an excellent job! Thank you for still doing these on a regular schedule and not stopping as this is a wonderful series and I do believe the community loves these!

Billy Corgan is not a shred guy?! are you kidding me? You guys must have never listened to Gish... DO!

@electromuff7870

5 жыл бұрын

His 1985 hexen tapes really prove them wrong

Fuck yeah! Easily my favorite alternative band of the 90's. A while ago Billy did a quick video (it was called Stompland and you can find it here on youtube) showing off a bunch of his pedals that he has used throughout the years. He showed one of his Siamese Dream Muffs with the settings still marked on it. Volume 12 o'clock, Tone 1 o'clock, Sustain at full blast. He also said he used a Phase 100 for solos with the speed all the way down and chose random settings for the intensity Lastly he also showed off the MXR Distortion II he used through the Muff on solos with the Siamese markings as well. 4, 11, 11, 2 (o'clock) As for a future suggestion, I'd say CKY. They have such a unique sound.

@codyb7625

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah that V4 muff is the key to the tone. It's so much more aggressive.

@addicted2tone349

6 жыл бұрын

I saw them live in 97 and it was one of my favorite shows ever..

@powerboon2k

Жыл бұрын

Easily my favorite alternative band of the 90's I was wondering what your fave was, now I can rest easy.

@Luindir22

Жыл бұрын

@@powerboon2k thanks for the weird douchey comment no one asked for as well.

holy shit the guy with the afro lost a lot of weight

@vs5617

6 жыл бұрын

He is Rabea

@mridlehands7262

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah super proud of Rabea

Finally!! Cheers lads, I've been asking for this for ages & it didn't disappoint. I imagine some people might not be too happy with the choice of the Reverend but it's meant to be 'Sounds Like', not 'Looks Like' & those pick-ups totally nailed Billy's tone. Well done!

That was GREAT. I loved it....only wish that it was longer and that we got to hear Rabea play some leads over those awesome crunchy rhythms. Good job!!! Bang on.

sonic youth please!!!

@renesrelics

6 жыл бұрын

bates that's a bottomless rabbit hole

@andrewpappas9311

6 жыл бұрын

bates I still have trouble understanding the 1000 tunings they use

@oyh3551

5 жыл бұрын

Rene Perez happens we have a nice feeling in this world and I think it’s going well to get a bit out there for a while but we will have a nice weekend and then I’ll get to you as soon bruh bruh was the one that you yyhhhhhhhhhhhbb

@surike

4 жыл бұрын

Yessyesssss

That was pretty awesome. Brought back some nostalgia feels. Good job guys!

"billy corgan - hes not a shred guy" what

Sounds like The Cure

@matthewsweeney1020

5 жыл бұрын

Please

@jacktilghman9797

4 жыл бұрын

Jazzmaster and a shit ton of chorus on it, oh and reverb. Lots of reverb usually. Robert Smith's tone is simple but, DEFINELTY, his own unique tone.

How about series named "How to start a band without busting a BANK" Take some drums, guitar a bass gear, maybe some PA stuff (we all have to rehearse so some powered speaker and mic or some mixer) and show people how easy it is ;). Cheers from PL

couldn't you just buy a pumpkin and throw it on the ground

@dhculver24

7 жыл бұрын

Hank Hill Only in the fall

@apiloto3219

6 жыл бұрын

Hank Hill 😂😂

@ryankrolikowski5663

5 жыл бұрын

Got dangit

"how to sound like smashing pumpkins" Doesn't use strats that Billy used throughout nearly every album

@chriscuthbertson

4 жыл бұрын

But.... the're not trying to sell strats ;)

@christopher.hallissy

3 жыл бұрын

He’s also fully converted to using line 6, which would have been cheaper.

@bhupashp4091

3 жыл бұрын

Yes ... they don't make it anymore, but he had a sig Strat with DiMarzio hot-rail-style pickups.

@tylerzane7579

3 жыл бұрын

Also didn’t use the op amp big muff billy designed

@o.g5211

3 жыл бұрын

@@tylerzane7579 I don't think he designed it it was just reissued with his endorsement

"Sound like Smashing Pumpkins" yeah...you might want to start with vintage strats first, and not Reverend guitars he just started to use a few years ago. seriously, that should be your first step. I am One and Today are both played wrong, and that kills me..

@lorcanrowley133

5 жыл бұрын

Cherub rock also

@andeh37

5 жыл бұрын

I've never heard such bad covers... You can tell these guys aren't fans of the band. Billy ISNT a shred guy?

@surike

4 жыл бұрын

@@andeh37 fr

@blistabliss

4 жыл бұрын

It sounds sooooooooooo bad wow. You have to be a fan to play something right they obviously don't get it

@TheEchelon

4 жыл бұрын

A vintage strat, for under 1500 including amp and pedals? lol sure. So what they're not fans, they recreate sounds based on requests and popular bands. By that logic they have to be fans of about 50 bands by now...

Now that the Op-Amp Big Muff reissue is out it's also super affordable. You can get an even closer sound than in this video and for much less. The Op-Amp version of Big Muff was the specific model used on Siamese Dream.

if i ever visit the UK, i have to stop by Andertons as one of my tourist destinations

Nicely done guys. I'm happy to hear another DSL40 video (because I have one :) )

Love watching you guys play together. Another good vid.

i love you guys for doing this my all time favorite band

8:05 well he did play all of the guitar parts (including the solos) and bass parts on the albums with the classic lineup. plus, his background was as a lead guitarist in metal bands. he definitely shreds on occasion. especially live.

That was so cool really look forward to your demo -reviews thanks guys

Great video guys love the sound, love your show

SUCH a great band!!! Billy Corgan is really underrated as a lead guitarist too.

OH YES Now please do Radiohead, Death From Above and Pixies, also Jack White's tone on his solo projects

@KeeperOfPoops

7 жыл бұрын

Radiohead is coming soon and hopefully next week or the weeks after

@_keegs

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, Rebea said in his about doing the 'sound like' videos on his own channel that they're doing it, I'm really excited. Radiohead best band ever

@ethanrummel7638

7 жыл бұрын

Yes on the Jack please

@Piplodocus

7 жыл бұрын

I really want Radiohead. However, I see very little in it unless they DO bust the bank as if they want to make it relevant to the changes across the years there's surely got to be a lot of cool and varied nice stuff to pull it off convincingly...

@src248

7 жыл бұрын

Hell yes to Death From Above, best lead bass tone

Beautiful job as always gentleman.

you did a great job in this episode, congrats!

Billy Corgan not a shred guy? He’s an amazing guitar player with some great solos. Also the video of him shredding with a les Paul with a bigsby before the pumpkins, come on

Challenging groups: Sound like Dinosaur Jr. Sound like Ween.

@Steaminlidz

6 жыл бұрын

Jammie! Ween - Mustang into an Electro Harmonix Polychorus and then into a Tascam 4-Track direct.. That’s Pure Guava.

Really excellent sounds here, that Reverend sounds superb through the fuzzes

Love these videos,fun and interesting,as a padawan,very helpful insight into different sounds etc 👍🏻🤘🏻

Sound like sonic youth!

@andrewpappas9311

5 жыл бұрын

Good luck getting all those weird tunings

@surike

4 жыл бұрын

Yessss

James last name is pronounced "eeeehaw" :) not Eye-Ha. No biggie, just throwing it out there. Sounds great though, nailed the sound for me.

@mattwhornby

7 жыл бұрын

Mark Artyniuk My bad!!

Nailed it. Love the reverend sound with the boost

Great video. One of my all time favourite bands, so much so that I bought the silver version of the Reverend BC from yourselves a couple of months ago. Fantastic guitar. I think I read somewhere that Billy was looking for that Sabbath tone when he was collaborating on his signature pickups. It really is an awesome guitar.

Sound like metallica by busting the bank and now get the heavy rythm tones. From Creeping death ( RTL ) to Harvester of sorrow ( AFJA ). i love this show!!!

About freaking time

Try and guess how many times Fro says,"It's worth pointing out," LOL! Love these guys, they always do a great job on these videos.

Best show on KZread! Keep going boys!

Some "Sounds Like" I'd love to see: Pete Townshend (Tommy or Who's Next-era), J Mascis and Joe Bonamassa!

@KeeperOfPoops

7 жыл бұрын

Dinosaur JR! it's all about the fuzz and the marshall and the J Mascis signature squier of course!

@gabrielledebourg2487

7 жыл бұрын

I know! But I'd just love to see the amount of Fuzz-pedals they'd gather for it!

@DrexFactor

7 жыл бұрын

Yes pls for Pete Townshend! :)

@rmcunningham3874

7 жыл бұрын

The Marshall? Like... one? I think you mean THE WALL of Marshalls! ;)

Sounds like Deep Purple please!

@widowmaker5544

7 жыл бұрын

which guitarist? Ritchie or Steve

@KeeperOfPoops

7 жыл бұрын

Ritchie Blackmore era even though i like Steve Morse but they could do Both Deep Purple and Rainbow if they do Ritchie

@adrianmbrown

7 жыл бұрын

William Allison agreed.

@bryanvasnier5249

7 жыл бұрын

There is only one guitarist in Deep Purple. The day he left, it wasn't Deep Purple anymore.

@verb3614

7 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Ritchie Blackmore would probably be better.

Yes finally! Great job guys!!!

Thanks for doing this one guys 😊😊 class video 👌👌👌👌

"He's not a shred guy" Do me a favor, and search "Billy Corgan Hexen tapes" on KZread

CHERUB ROCK FOR THE WIN! and let me say you nailed this one!!! can you do a sound like Mac Demarco? he has a simple but fun rig either him or George Benson (without using his signature gear cos they're expensive) maybe even Hank Marvin of The Shadows or A7X and lemmie say while the DSL 40 is the big daddy of affordable Marshalls, i'm more sold on the Blackstar HT club 40 and for once i didn't just Pool out my usual requests and just narrowed it down to 3 cos Kai Burns says i do it EVERY TIME

@widowmaker5544

7 жыл бұрын

DSL is hurt by what you said there...

Great job guys loved it!!!

Great job guys. I'm not a huge SP fan but you guys nailed it.

LOL BILLYS NOT A SHRED GUY... see all of 1994

Liked the video before watching it.. Keep up the mint work ladz! Weezer possibly up next??

YAAASSS!! I've been waiting for this one!!!

YESSSS!!! I've needed this for so long.

I needed this episode

@andertons

7 жыл бұрын

Well, you are welcome then... :-)

Never clicked so fast.

Nailed it! Sounded great guys

Been waiting for this one!

If you guys could do a "Sound Like Dinosaur Jr." I'd love you forever :) they've had a bug influence on my music

-1 for messing up the intro to "Cherub Rock". I totally thought you guys were phoning it in till Rabea pulled out the riff to "Quiet" as he was demoing the pedals. Way to throw in a deep cut Easter Egg for the hardcore fans :)

@MickeyKraut419

6 жыл бұрын

Word... Quiet has always been in my top 3 Pumpkins songs.

@musicsavedme3534

6 жыл бұрын

Quiet is one of their best songs

@markcoventry1411

6 жыл бұрын

In what world is Quiet a deep cut? it's the second song on their most famous album...

@comanderstupid

5 жыл бұрын

Can I -1 for not adding the bend in the 1979 riff?

And in that note, all in fairness..hahah...great episode! Beastly tones, that dsl40 did sound really good in this one

Thank you very much guys

Qotsa by busting

@rylandcook5301

7 жыл бұрын

yes!!

@modernlife1321

4 жыл бұрын

Just buy the shoup

@grahamcollins2350

3 жыл бұрын

Try finding Ampeg V4s anywhere

sound like dinosaur jr Please!!!

@KeeperOfPoops

7 жыл бұрын

it's all about the fuzz, and the Marshalls and the J Mascis Squier which thy can get

Well done, lads. Reminded me of one of the best times of my life.

love that pumpkins tone lately, awesome video. 🎸🔥🤘

Weezer plz

You gotta do some punk bands. NOFX, Pennywise, Anti-Flag, Bad Religion, etc.

@LukeyPooky

6 жыл бұрын

I would love to see one on Propagandhi. The sound on How to Clean Everything is MASSIVE, even though it's really straightforward. haha, I guess the answer would just be to use a Marshall amp.

@hazer75

6 жыл бұрын

Lukey Pooky not a Mesa Dual Rec?

Great vid! Billy Corgan is a Great player, and I play some of his riffs and songs using the EHX OP Amp Nano Big Muff.

Sweet! Nice Job Guys!

Didn't they use fender lace sensor pickups?

@mr.boojangles3289

7 жыл бұрын

Connor Balderaz Yes Billy did

@HaikalHanafiah

7 жыл бұрын

yupp they did, but billy didnt like how the lace sounds for a clean tone because it loose a bit of articulation..

@willbrewer9253

7 жыл бұрын

Connor Balderaz billy used to... but he later used signature DiMarzio single cool sized humbuckers.. now he uses the reverend, which he prefers.

@Samizsm23

7 жыл бұрын

Connor Balderaz yes but only in his strats

If you want the true Pumpkins sound, you need the Op Amp version of the Big Muff really, but this does sound good! The good news is EHX just reissued it 😀

@france.the_bastard

5 жыл бұрын

Phil Griffiths reissue doesn’t sound the same

@PALMLINES

4 жыл бұрын

The Altruistic Antihero JHS Pedals did a shoot out of all the reissues on their KZread Channel. To my ear, they’re all nearly identical...especially the op amp version.

@MrGunwitch

2 жыл бұрын

@@france.the_bastard Yes it does, I've owned both and the sound is indistinguishable.

I've been waiting for this one!

@Craigpyrog

7 жыл бұрын

Wasn't blown away. Was expecting a Strat, JMP-1, Big Muff and Phase 90.

Sounds great guys, nailed it.

Please guys sound like Queensrÿche!!

@KeeperOfPoops

7 жыл бұрын

they have to do Eyes Of A Stranger

@rambusinek

7 жыл бұрын

I will never stop begging them to make Queensrÿche until they do them. Chris DeGarmo, Michael Wilton and Eddie Jackson are masters of the tone!

@jameslewis2635

7 жыл бұрын

'Revolution Calling' would be a great song for Bea to get his teath into.

My Mum said to me "You sound just like your father". Nailed that one then, I thought to myself.

Awesome work

It's worth pointing out that you guys did a great job with this one

Sound like Staind, only because I like me some Baritone droptuned guitars. Plus it would be cool to hear Bea rock out some old Staind tunes.👨‍🎤🤘

Closed Captions at 11:15 LOL! That sounds like my kind of guitar! XD

@KeeperOfPoops

7 жыл бұрын

a lesbo custom

I think you guys totally nailed this one. Every time you started to play I was waiting for billy to start singing until I realized he wasn't there. For those squabbling about guitar choice, I get it, but it was a video about how to compile his exact rig, it was how to sound like him. Surly there is more than one way to skin a cat, and these guys definitely found one of those ways.

Nailed it! Massive sound.

Could you guys make an Iron Maiden By busting the bank?

@KeeperOfPoops

7 жыл бұрын

this time they should get Dave's Signature Fender Stratocaster and hopefully a Steve Harris bass rig

sound like Sonic Youth

@KeeperOfPoops

7 жыл бұрын

i know Thurston Moore has a signature Jazzmaster which they no longer make so a Jazzmaster is a shout straight away

@promospray

7 жыл бұрын

but you can always get a Mustang or some regular Jazzmaster (cuz "they`ve played jazz" mostly, haha) and blast it with the screwdriver or drumstick! i`m curious to watch guys playing sonic-tunes)))

@TheAlienFromOuterEarth

7 жыл бұрын

1.Get any guitar 2.distortion pedal 3.set guitar on fire

@promospray

7 жыл бұрын

that seems to be Hendrix-ish))

@TheAlienFromOuterEarth

7 жыл бұрын

Yaroslav Ra Hendrix just destroyed a guitar he didn't explore the tonal capability of an enflamed jazzmaster

Thanks for that . Sound great

Been waiting for this one

You guys talking about octave and fuzz, you should do Baroness... been a while since you've done a proper metal/sludge/prog band

eric johnson please

@andertons

7 жыл бұрын

Noted...

Nice job on this one 👍

Sounds great. Thanks

SONIC YOUTH

Sound like Dinosaur Jr.

Oh, forgot to mention, great job on this one. Sounds pretty damn good.

Finally! Awesomeness; pure awesomeness.