"And here, at last, our brother Turel..."

I want the original game fully realized with today's graphics & fine-tunes fighting mechanics. I'd pay $500

@Anotherguy1st

4 жыл бұрын

Likewise. Would even be nice if Dead Sun got revived. Sadly I don't think these wonderful games would get much love these days.

@jamesriver3745

2 жыл бұрын

Amen man. I remastered version with the deleted levels as originally intended. This Turel would've been way better. They didn't even make a teleport to Turels lair, with his symbol on the wall.

@nifftbatuff676

6 ай бұрын

I want the original game, but without modern graphics or modern mechanics.

I can't believe i watching that!! It has always been my dream to see Turel's clan!! Thank you so much for making that possibile!!

@RainaAudron

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! And yes, I am as excited as you about this! :D

@micmazzieri

4 жыл бұрын

​@@RainaAudron Same! Feel those words! Thank you for bringing me in some place I could only imagine until now. Dreaming about a remake.

It hurts my soul that this was cut. Even as a kid, I knew Turel was always supposed to be there.

Figures that the best level was cut! Turel's lair looks awesome...high ledges, lakes of lava, the smokestack, an apocalyptic industrial zone. Even the music is eerie. I wish one day a remastered version is made with these cut levels being added in as originally intended. It always bugged me that Turel was never seen, yet his banners are seen everywhere. Why didn't the creators just take their time and do the game like it was supposed to be? Deadlines? I'm so jealous watching this. Wonder how the boss battle was going to be...Turel's attacks and dialogue with Raziel?

The game would be even greater than it is if all this content remained intact. What a pity it was cut off.

UNBELIEVABLE! After 20 years, the quintessential definition of Cut Content, the Lost Clan Territory of the Turelim. Is this the Alpha? In the retail version much of this has been removed, right? It would be cool if it was somehow possible to ''mod'' the second half of Soul Reaver in the retail game, taking the content from the alpha and polishing it/making it functional. It would be a lot of work surely...

@BlindmansJesus

4 жыл бұрын

Restored content mod for Soul Reaver? I'd download it in a heartbeat.

@Evilriku13

4 жыл бұрын

@@BlindmansJesus When Ihear that term, Iget reminded of STar Wars Knights of the Old Reoublic 2, as it also had a so called Restoration Content Mod, which has been officially approved on Steam

@bazlmoon

4 жыл бұрын

@Irfan Alddin They are legit - and from a very early developmental version. I believe one of the original devs has already acknowledged the deleted areas presented in these videos on FB.

@BlindmansJesus

4 жыл бұрын

@@Evilriku13 Yup, and I love that mod dearly.

This Turel's desing looks so frigging cool. Way better than the Defiance one!

Turel looked like a more wild version of Dumah.

you know remember explaining this soul reaver alpha leak to someone that wasn't a lok fan and telling him that to us it's the equivalent of us got the full source code to the ocarina of time's beta and now we got all these Nintendo leaks that came out it's neat with how messed up this year has been at least we get to see all this unseen contents from our favorite games

I'm so glad to be able to see this this. Looking at the model for Turel I in my own head canon believe that this form would have been one he had before we see him in Defiance. Much like how Dumah was still fairy humanoid because he was impaled on his throne while his awakened brothers were more degenerated.

@jamesriver3745

2 жыл бұрын

me too. I'd like to think of Turel as shown here for sure.

Crazy to think Soul Reaver already had quite a large world and ability set for Raziel. But even more was originally planned.

Such a shame this was cut, it looked nearly finished. I honestly would've preferred this Turel over the one from Defiance. Pretty surprising that we would've killed him pretty early within his territory.

@BigUriel

3 жыл бұрын

If they had finished it though the story would have been much shorter and simpler, there wouldn't have been a SR2 nor any of the complex time travel plot involved.

@OutlandishSamurai

3 жыл бұрын

@@BigUriel No, there would still be a SR2 but in a slightly different way. Raziel would realise he was played by the elder god.

@jamesriver3745

2 жыл бұрын

I really wish this was included in the retail version. It's the coolest looking level, eerie music, and it always bugged me how Turel was never seen. I agree with you on being disappointed the way they handled him in defiance. He should have been in the game. He looks cooler here than the batlike thing they ended up using.

@michaelburke7978

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesriver3745 Right? Not gonna lie, the SR1 Turel fight would've been cool. They should've at least kept his original humanoid form in Defiance; it never made sense to me how he was so deformed to the point of being a quadrupedal, especially how each brethren got less and less deformed depending on their rank/skill. Speaking of which, maybe in their normal vampire form Raziel could've taken them on in hand to hand/weaponry combat, but as deformed monsters there's no way Raziel would've bested them in combat, nor match them in pure strength, even though he's pretty strong in his own right. SR1 may be criticized for its excessive puzzles; but when they nailed it, they nailed it, especially when it came to boss fights, hence Raziel having to rely on his wits to outsmart his brethren to defeat them. I mean yeah we had to hit those gongs first in order to inflict damage on Turel in Defiance, but I would've much preferred outsmarting the humanoid Turel in SR1, making him contribute to his own demise like the previous brethren. While the voice actor did an amazing job on Turel in Defiance, I liked Turel's original voice as it sounded much more sinister and creepier. I liked the exchange between Turel and Raziel much better in SR1 as well, especially when Raziel asks him in a mocking way if he's learned to swim like Rahab; now that I think about it, I love all of Raziel's exchanges in SR1, since he's rightfully condescending towards all of them lol

@selemanecu

2 жыл бұрын

@@OutlandishSamurai and Kain would still escape a senseless sacrifice being killed by the Reaver would just like with Ariel remove him from the usual cycle and via Raziel he could potentially bring actual balance to the world of nosgoth and have an immortal "legacy of kain"

This needs to be remade...this series is so awesome...I still play it now👍👍

Finally, after so many years... Big thanks to all, who works on it. Amazing to show. I still sure - Legacy of Kain franchaise is not dead.

Years over Years of hearsay and in the end... was real!!! Dude thank you so much for showing this!

No puedo creer todo el material q le quitaron al juego. Siempre q derrotaba A Dumah y me introducia en Oracle Cave sentia q faltaban cosas por explorar y resolver. Aqui un gran ejemplo de lo q nos han robado a los fanaticos de este juego. El poder conocer el Clan de Turel. Y encima la batalla en la montaña de Kain. Cuantas cosas maravillosas nos han quitado. Una pena grandísima. Gran aporte y gran trabajo saludos.

@RainaAudron

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed! Thank you for the comment!

Someone managed to tie the animations that Turel had to the model. It would be interesting to see the spoken dialog used with it.

You really want my heart to bleed and twist in pain of unfulfilled, huh...? I will cry... My nostalgia is going to kill me...

Frickin scary those models that just stand there. Unfinished characters scare me.

Its so satisfying to finally see a walkthrough of this, one of the most iconic screenshots of a cut area! The scale of this area, being one big puzzle, is awesome, a great way to access Kain's Retreat, as the final part of the game! :)

I can finally see Raziel exploring the territory of Turel, great work recovering that material. I'm fan of this LoK and I never thought I'd see this ,our great work.

@jamesriver3745

2 жыл бұрын

so wish I could play this. I like the idea of using the smokestack to glide up to the last level. Awesome level.

excellent video detailing this clan!! i loved this game series as a child and its still one of all time fav. game series. 👍👍👍

Been binge watching all your content over the last few days!! 😂 This area and the "Human Farm" under the Citadel have always really interested me and it's amazing to see what we could have had! Keep up the fantastic work!! ☺

@RainaAudron

Жыл бұрын

Haha, thanks! Glad you're enjoying 😊👍

Thank you so much for these videos!

In a parallel universe this is how soul reaver will be.

This is amazing! Great work! I've been wait for this since I was 10, so good to see it!

This video is so incredibel! Thanks a lot guy

Looking at all the footage from various Alphas and Betas over the 1Q99, I'm pretty sure that if an Late March-April Beta from which the Sanctus Christus Trailer was made and which contained what appeared to be a finished version of the Throne Room in Kain's Mountain Retreat, ever surfaced - enterprising fans would probably have enough to work with to eventually create a working prototype. It would seemingly be the final point when they were still going full steam for the original vision. Looking at the May betas, you can estimate that the decision to scale the project came in very soon after said content was released probably mid to late April. Judging from the promotional material, with some hard work it could probably be brought to working order. It wouldn't be pretty, but with some work it could probably be rendered functional. I wonder if the decision to scale back was because of the Mountain Retreat, most of the main removed areas are mostly complete in the Feb. Beta only needing some minor touch ups and texture work, and game logic for puzzles necessary. But the Mountain Retreat was barely a stump, which according to Dan Cabuco was supposed to be as big as any of the main areas. I don't think it's outrageous to think that had they cut off all the fat eg. forges and glyph shrines, they could make a wrap on the Undercity and the Smokestack with the time they had. Perhaps realizing they won't be able to finish the final area before the deadline, they chose a cut off point for the story that was viable with the least amount of redone voicework? Reworking the Undercity and Smokestack into the game, even if finished - would require substantial sessions of re-recording to fit into the revised story, which would drive the costs up even further.

@RainaAudron

4 жыл бұрын

Sanctus Christus was actually made from even earlier builds than those of 23rd Jan and later due to the old attack as you move combat system which was scrapped early in the development but seen in the trailer. It also did not have any footage from Kain´s mountain retreat (the throne room was still untextured). That´s an interesting perspective that maybe cutting the forges and glyphs could have given them more time to work on the Undercity and Smokestack instead, which is perhaps true. Forges were important for gameplay reasons as the Reaver was non-lethal weapon originally and they only added a killing blow after May Beta, right before finalizing the game. Actually, no re-recording would be needed as all the voice work has already been completed for the original story and they only added later recordings of Moebius and Tomb Guardian and a few other alternate ones to accommodate for the cuts.

I actually prefer this design over the defiance one, because it implies that the more gifted of kains children did not devolve as far as the weaker ones, like Rahab was still somewhat humanoid and not fully turned into a large creature like the youngest brothers

Excellent video ! ;-)

Man, I loved Turel's stage theme song!

This is cool evrey video made me goosebumbs😍😍😍

Wow. Hace tanto quería ver esto. Gracias.

thanks for keep lok alive

A boss fight early in the dungeon? Barely any script? If I was Raziel, I’d *try* to beat the brothers on PRINCIPLE (would probably take a LOT of strikes) with the Reaver rather than just offer the only way: using your surroundings.

I'm starting to think that Turel's Lair was not cut due to lack of memory but rather because of the game's release schedule, there just simply wasn't enough time

Cool update

I smell water..

I would really have loved to play this level... Such a shame it's been cut... Nice vids dude, i've watched all of them !

Man its sad and amazing at the same time

I want that turel model to 3d print. So cool.

Nice

Is amazing

thank yoi

The TLW walkthrough of this area stated that some of the upper ledges were unreachable without cheating, but you actually did reach them without cheating. XD Ah, damn, what I would give to be able to play this. This seems to be the deleted area with the highest level of completion (posession not working aside).

@RainaAudron

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, that climbable wall is actually easy to miss! It allows Raziel to glide down to the alcove and the giant double door.

kde se tyto smazané pasáže dají sehnat?

This Turel is much much better than the one of Defiance i hope this becomes a fully fledged mod/add to Soul Reaver PC version

@RainaAudron

3 жыл бұрын

He is definitely different looking but there are similarities. Hopefully, there will be a way to add him in the future.

@zenicehero9154

3 жыл бұрын

YES I Hope so too

The original design for Turel looks like a bigger, badder version of Dumah.

"Kain is deified. The clans tell tales of him. Fe know the truth. He was mortal once, as were we all, but his contempt for humanity drove him to create me and my brothern." In the end Raziel didn't know Kain at all.

I really hope some day someone gets to reimagine Soul Reaver, this time including all this cut content. Though, it would certainly mess up the stories of the games that came after soul reaver, at least a bit

@Robert-rl7rd

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with the first part. Who cares about the later games they sucked

@LPgamedev

3 жыл бұрын

@@Robert-rl7rd haha fair enough!

Here Turel was a lot of smaller, than Turel from Defiance. But poor, that this wasn't complete.

I understand why they took it out , oh God. I would wanted to play but that would have got on my nerves.

The game would've been so much better if all this cut content had been included... though we'd either not have the sequels or the final battle with Kain would have to be the one we got.

Name the music

w8 a second if raziel did this then we would never know of the hylden ? cuz if he kills all the vampires then the hylden would have comeback?

Its been a minute

is there a release date to this i want to try it

so essentially the enhanced telekenisis would be reworked into the air reaver blast in the next game huh?

@RainaAudron

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty much, yes!

@selemanecu

2 жыл бұрын

@@RainaAudron hmm kinda wish now soul reaver would get the same treatment as shadow man... makes me wonder if the enhanced tk would eventually work similar to spirit death if the tk projectile was basically energy bolt

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There is a lot of created yet unused content , not sure why some of this was not included in the final version the game was and still remain a masterpiece!! I hope sony does something about it and make Soul Reaver remake and include all this!! If it ever....

@RainaAudron

3 жыл бұрын

It all boils down to needing to invest further time and money - they've already missed couple of their deadlines and to postpone further would mean potentially not releasing that year so they tidied up what they had and cut everything unfinished. Many games have similar issues (look at Cyberpunk).

@bartolocoforevah8663

3 жыл бұрын

@@RainaAudron yeah i know but still there is so much content almost finished and really i cant get get enough Soul Reaver!! I still hope for a remake same treatment as Resident evil 1 or 2 remake literally just better graphics same music but higher quality and expanded ( deleted parts) just to make it bigger even the lost elemental reaver powers anywsy hope it happens the game was a masterpiece even back then!!!

If Morlock in the retail version was originally Turel, where was Raziel supposed to get his original TK powers in the alpha? You've been referring to Turel's gained abilities as "amplified". I think I missed something. I watched all the vids up unto this point in one sitting, so I'm likely having a huge Derp moment...

@RainaAudron

4 жыл бұрын

Good point, we have debated this previously and it looks like Raziel was always meant to obtain the basic TK projectile underneath the Sarafan Tomb (room is labelled boss2 but is not listed under boss rooms in the debug menu). Looks like the Turelim there would still bestow TK projectile onto Raziel (originally by soul consuming, then it was changed into a separate relic item) and then Turel´s soul would amplify it.

damn, there's games that got released and were more unfinished than this. I mean compare this to ''big rigs'' p.s. kudos for doing this in one long take

Here i am

why didn't you put Turel's Lair music in the background while exploring?

@RainaAudron

4 жыл бұрын

The music playing in the background is the correct one. They reused it in the Sunlight Glyph. Turel Encounter track would only play during Turel´s cutscene/boss fight.

@thejjohn9504

4 жыл бұрын

@@RainaAudron i've spent ten years thinking it was the lair music, and didn't even know i could learn it wasn't

@RainaAudron

4 жыл бұрын

​@@thejjohn9504Hehe, no worries, it´s easy to assume :) The debug menu lists it under Morlock, so they simply reused it in the Lighthouse area.

@thejjohn9504

4 жыл бұрын

@@RainaAudron why was the lighthouse inhabited by Turelims? how is it connected to his territory?

@RainaAudron

4 жыл бұрын

@@thejjohn9504 It is not. As the Smokestack has been cut, they have placed them into the Lighthouse which had previously Dumahim there.

Is this build available to the public?

@RainaAudron

6 ай бұрын

Yes.

@pavma7

6 ай бұрын

@@RainaAudron oh nice, do you know the name of the build?

@RainaAudron

6 ай бұрын

@@pavma7 You can see all of them on a certain website, just check the dates.

why crystal dynamics cant remake this amazing game again its very gain

@drakonolus7922

3 жыл бұрын

Because the franchise, for today; it's from SqareEnix. Damned japanese people .....

Nossa como eu queria que você falasse em português

military time :)

Is this playable with a trainer?

@RainaAudron

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean? Debug menu is already enabled in this build.

@albertocastelli8371

Жыл бұрын

@@RainaAudron so If I use debug menu I can reach this deleted area. I didn't know that I could use that debug to reach previously unreleased areas. Thank you

@RainaAudron

Жыл бұрын

@@albertocastelli8371 Yes, you can access it via Start button 👍

So much work lost. Parts of this level ware one of most impressive visual wise (not without reason they ware shown in screens) and yet they ware cut - in exchange many less interesting tunnels and caves remained. Shame. When you build a game you focus on most impressive and signature elements first - this show how desperate and in chaos they ware.

i need the book Legacy of kain or the inspirational book of that masterpiece

make more videos, show people the change.org link to get more people to sign the petition, team up with other KZreadrs who support legacy of kain and the soul reaver games. do it....do it nowwww