I bought one of those decks back in the nineties when sales of cassettes were waning. It seemed nice when it was new, but didn't last long. I think Sony knew everything was shifting to CD's and put better quality in their early CD players. I bought one of those and everything was made of metal even the drawer holding the CD was heavy metal. It was built to last.

We in California used to use railroads to ship from one state to another which was less costly. Now everything is trucked, the fuel is $2 more than other states.

Appreciate the info on shipping from the States (Me) to Canada (You) Outrageous without question. Craziest dual cassette player I have ever seen, Sony went out of their way to be CHEAP. I Like cassettes and Thank You for this video.

ALRIGHT Dave ! ! ! no filter..... fixing this unit, don't buy, RUN ! ! ! It got a good laugh when you laid out the cards and drew a loosing hand for this SONY. Thanks for your candor. Happy Thanks for the Turkey ....or a shot of Canadian Mist.

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes i wonder why i bother. Lol.

@jameskrivitsky9715

Жыл бұрын

@@12voltvids From my point of view, you have a vast amount of knowledge to share with a plethora of viewers who are interested in electronics / repair methods / putting devices back to some of their former glory and be used again instead of being scraped. That , right there, should be a reward and a feather in your cap. We may not be able to come over to your home, show our thanks to you and your family and spread some joy. But we don't want to invade your privacy. There are a handful of Tuber content creators that rank HIGH on my list . You are in the TOP TEN. BIG THANKS Dave . I consider you as one of my mentors and good buddies. Happy Holidays and keep up the good work. JwgK in Houston , Texas

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

@@jameskrivitsky9715 thanks

Had one of these in the 90s and lasted about 6 months.

Had that same mechanism in a ‘modern’ audioset this week, all 4 belts were bad, after replacing them the thing actually worked but even worse W&F than yours. Also had to replace all 4 pinchrollers with ‘similar’ ones from panasonic which i had laying around. Ended up with a W&F around 0,35%, so quite bad, but at least the thing worked! Tapedecks in the minisets from the early-mid ‘90s like the mhc610 and the likes were a heck of lot better (but also much more expensive) But lots of them had a cracked gear on the ‘mode control motor’ We wanted stuff cheap, so we got it cheap 😂 By the way: whats the problem with ‘ghettoblaster’?

@albertocabezas282

Жыл бұрын

One solution to the cracked gear: try to carefully open a little big the hole where the gear is attached to the motor pole. Once it was done, apply a droplet of superglue on the crack. The plastic tends to shrink over time and that's why that little demon is fractured.

Those shipping prices are insane. I know it's not the same thing but I can ship from the UK to continental Europe for under $15 for a tape deck-sized box. And that does include customs etc as the UK is no longer in the European customs area. And this thing is cheap. I recently bought a Sherwood twin-deck, a better unit than this one albeit a "lesser" brand, locally in a faulty state (but just needed belts) for £2.57 on a collect-only auction. There is no way on God's green Earth I'd spend even a tenth of the money you're talking about on this!

It's not a $800+ cassette deck. Why would you even pay $70 to ship and +the repair???

Hi Dave...can't ship anything around in south africa...cost sky high as well if your parcel doesn't disappear at all. Quick one...my HC26 all of a sudden broke down. The display shows fine but none of the control "buttons" on the screen works...looks like a liqued christal display. Tried all my remote controls but none works. Cleaned all the ribbon cable connections...but no good. Everything else still 100% working. So sad...can't get myself dumping this. Please...some suggestions. Thanks

What's the shipping service that quoted you those prices ? I have been mixing in UPS for some orders for some decent prices.. but it depends on where it's going. More crushing of small businesses.

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

Canada / USPS

Got 2 mid 1990s Sony Walkmans, that have bad pinch rollers. It seems that Sony has had some bad rubber formulations in that period of time. These rollers get shiny quick, have no grip at all and cause inconsistent tape speed from beginning to end because of the changing takeup and supplier reel torque and they will probably turn into goo like belts soon too...

The king of wow and flutter

At the price of this late cassette era deck you could have bought a badly broken Teac or... a barely decent dinner for a family of 5. Most companies preferred to offer simpler electronics and controls but SONY exploiting their great expertise and production volume in integration and electronics design decided their 2nd most basic double cassette deck they'd be offering would have full logic control, Dolby B,C,HX Pro with the same high density head that was installed in upmarket models, although they might have been binned 1st choice, digital counters and all the convenience of remote control. It had absolutely respectable dynamic specs with the convenience of full remote control meaning you could play two tapes from side A to side B from the comfort of your sofa. Of course you could have bought something else (new) at that price point but it's highly likely it didn't sound any better and it would have been far less convenient: piano keys, analog tape counter, not remote controllable. Perhaps it would have been more reliable that this SONY unit... but these many years kind of defeated the point. I don't like SONY because it made the ES series... I like SONY because it made the ES series AND it was also able to pull the cheapest best sounding cassette deck at a price point no other company could match. And all this consumer stuff was designed to last 5 years... it's a testament to their build quality if they lasted so far. If you repair and service a Technics RS-TR series you can as well BUY and service this deck. The disadvantage being it's a one off, you won't find many plastic gears around in case something has cracked.

I had the TCWE-305 from Sony. It was all mechanical no logic controls at all. It used the cheap Tanashin mechanism. However, each deck had its own motor. It felt clunky but it sounded half decent. It had Dolby NR B type and could record on metal and chrome tape. Better than the garbage that you get at Walmart today.

That's why always clean your cassette deck, and keep up with the maintenance 👌

What year is this model tape deck? I see lots of plastic and cheapness :)

my Sony LBT-N355 stereo has the exact same deck and it's starting to sound the same crap when I play tapes like it wants to throw up, I think it's the belts, should I change them? although I have no idea where I can find the same belts to buy😢

Thinking you got a good and reliable brand tape deck

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

Was there ever a reliable tape deck ?

This one is from 1997. I would have expected an early 90s model to be better considering tapes were still popular in the first half of the decade.

I greet you very much, can I ask you for a link to the tin spider

Shipping costs are sending more electronics to the recycle bin, even the nicer gear. I have a DAT machine that I can't give away, and several dead CD players and cassette machines. People want to spend the same money for a broken piece of kit, than one that is gone through, then they are mad they have to spend even more money to make it work proper. When someone tells you the unit has been "gone through", ask them, what has been done.

11:32 Dolby B and C AND HX PRO. How is it bad?

@michaelturner4457

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Dolby B, C, and HX Pro, AND terrible wow and flutter. It'll probably be okay for playing vaporwave tapes. :D

I have a 1984 sanyo C30 boom box and there’s nothing wrong with it and it’s still plays like a champion and it’s 40 years old

1:09 I order things from Japan and I've been paying sometimes $80-$100 USD ... for like 2 pounds. Thankfully EMS is slowly dropping in price. Don't worry these prices can't hold.

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

Just on the news tonight. Fuel surcharge is going up to 42%. So if the freight charge is 100, 42 added for fuel. Is it is 200 an extra 84 for fuel. All the carriers are doing this. 42% for domestic stuff 39% for international shipments. I just pass these charges on. They will likely cone down after Xmas.

Remind me not to go the Canada anytime soon. Tax on tax + more taxes.

@998cooper

Жыл бұрын

@@12voltvids I'm not American I'm Australian. Im sidestepping Canada and the USA because of what you say even its just for a holiday. Not worth the $$$$.

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

@@998cooper well your taxes are pretty high there. My brother in-law lives there. He tells me what stuff costs. Housing here is redrcules though. House in my neighbourhood around 2 million. A bare lot is 1.2m minimum.

@998cooper

Жыл бұрын

@@12voltvids Yes depends on your affordability with increasing interest rates & corresponding wages etc but overall we are still okay here. Taking onto account exchange rates between Australia US & Canada and all additional taxes just makes it totally out the question.

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

@@998cooper travel is expensive. Just saw the travel best bet on the news a deal or so they would have us believe the 7-day trip was only $950 per person plus $1,650 in tax per person. 2600.00 per person and that was just the airfare.

By the looks of it, that build quality/components is definitely Sony's "ES" line. True craftmanship.

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

You do realize that ES really stands for Expensive Shite. Same garbage, just 3x the price LOL.

@HBAVHS

Жыл бұрын

@@12voltvids 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@KR1275

Жыл бұрын

@@12voltvids I have some ES stuff from the 80's and 90's and they still work. Even some tape decks with Alps transport have the original belts (like my TC-RX80ES).

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

@@KR1275 I'm not saying all the es products were garbage, they weren't. The es line used to be there elevated standard line of equipment. I say used to, they were a big expensive and very heavy. I have a couple of ES DAT recorders and an es CD player. The CD player weighs around 30 lb the DAT machines almost 20 each. They have copper chassis in them. Not just copper plated steel but actual copper chassis. Big power supplies, multiple power supplies. Built like a tank. Then the es line went downhill and they started slapping the es badge on regular crap. Late 70s early '80s yes meant something by the late 80s and into the 90s it was just another label. I have her es receiver that used to be a five channel now it's just the two channel because one of the drive ICS failed and the part was made out of unobtainium, so I rewired it he is one of the rear channel driver ICS to drive one of the front channels. I should show that unit off someday it still works as far as I know for stereo, I don't have it hooked up at the moment it's sitting in my living room blow my old TV not plugged in just sitting there. It's badge DS but it certainly isn't ES it's the same how's the regular junk that Sony was turning out back in the 90s. Now that sounds like I'm bashing Sony I'm not really Sony had some excellent products. They're broadcast gear was second to none, the cameras fantastic same with their VCRs, they were getting more resolution out of their VHS and super VHS machines then other companies. like everyone else though they started cutting corners and moving their manufacturing to China and Vietnam and Indonesia any place but Japan. If you got something you made in Japan or in Wales you got a really good product. What are they making whales you ask? That's where they're high-end cameras were being made. I'm not talking consumer cameras I'm talking their Cinema cameras and broadcast gear. Same factory that the original raspberry pi came out of and we all know how great the first and second generation raspberry pi is where. I've got two of them that run 24 hours a day they've never skipped a beat.

even tough it sound like Chinese garbage it works but your right it dose sound bad i would sell it on Facebook or ship it to eBay again or give it away for free on Craigslist but good video and i enjoyed it

i bought two sony single decks with auto calibration for 10 euro 3 monyhs ago 😁😁😁

I have Sony TCWE465 deck, and nylon gear was crag, like they all do... I glued in place now it's work some time... poor design. :D

I bet it throws away REAL NICE! haha

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

I'll throw it on craigslist, some idiot will buy it.

@gabrieleorioli1760

Жыл бұрын

@@12voltvids One of the belts looks slightly misplaced, but I do agree on this unit not being very high quality and unworthy of a costly repair. When fixing boomboxes with the same worn parts, it usually takes me days of artisanal labor and patience to round ovalized pinch rollers, straighten up capstans and clean/lubricate all of the rest.

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

@@gabrieleorioli1760 I think that was just from it sitting for a period of time. Where the belt looped around the small idler pulley it has misfarmed it slightly. Changing the May slightly lower the wild and flutter but a game once I emailed the owner and told him what sad shape it was in he didn't even want to go that route. I don't know what he paid for the unit I hope it wasn't too much but then he also paid the shipping to get it from whoever sold it to his place and then paid a little over $70 to ship it to me. I went back and looked at the original email and even initially I had suggested that it might not be worth fixing but he wanted me to look at it. Said it would be a good one for my channel even if it wasn't repairable. I guess we'll find out whether I make any money off this one or not. At least it's got a good motor in it that I could probably salvage for something else but certainly not going to be one that I would ever use and as far as selling it it's probably worth more to me for parts.

Yup, that is trash, i have the same mechanism salvaged from music centre and its noisy clicking poor quality as the whole device is. Sony was always bad on mechanisms but this is out of the charts, I don't know how they survived so long.

I think you should use it for parts not a good deck i have an fx 211 and that is dreadful as well, the belts cost more than its worth so i will most likly break it up i have a budget 1985 sony and its so much better in both build qaulity and sound a tc fx220 solid case and mostly metal deck mechanism.

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

I agree I mean if I were to try to sell this thing I might get 25 bucks for it but if I rip the motor out of it and use it to fix a high-end deck I can make a hundred bucks. That is if the motor is not the fault which I doubt that it is I think it's just a crappy plastic mechanism that's making this thing sound as bad as it does

The whole thing is only worth about $30 bucks at most isn't it?

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

Yes they sell in the second hand store for not much more than 30 bucks.

@KR1275

Жыл бұрын

@@12voltvids In the Netherlands no more than 5 - 10 euros.

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

@@KR1275 I would expect that thrift shops here this would be probably in the $20 range, however the last time I was at one of the big thrift shops I saw the prices on this type of stuff had increased dramatically. Cassette decks asking $80 or $90 for a basic tape deck. Portable old cassette tape recorders from 1970s asking $40. It seems that the thrift shops here have had people poking around on eBay seeing over inflated unrealistic prices and thinking that their junk is worth that and they've jacked up the prices. I don't see stuff flying off the shelves like before. Maybe for your shits and giggles all just check out the thrift shop today and see what they're asking I haven't been there in a few months but the last time I was there the prices were creeping up big time and I walked out with nothing. Last great deal I got was a tcd-5 professional portable cassette recorder for 10 bucks. Maybe someone saw my video and all the comments from people saying how much those things should sell for and they decided to put up the prices who knows.

@darinb.3273

Жыл бұрын

@@12voltvids Hey Dave I wonder if the belt boiling and a few drops of oil/grease would help elevate some (or all) of the wow and flutter (and yes it was horrendous LOL). I don't know if it would be worth the time/effort to try to get the belts out based on the work involved to get them out. If they are deformed as you mentioned non use for a long time with the number of belts within it may almost or completely eliminate the WOW and flutter, again though in the end is the deck even worth the trouble LOL.

@68pishta68

Жыл бұрын

@12voltvids the thrift shops (especially Salvation Army) must have someone looking at Ebay for their pricing. I told the clerk whomever is pricing this stuff is ludicrous, ie a Magnavox dual cassette for $49? That one has got to be worse than that single motor Sony! Some guy posted he found a Nak Dragon for $29 at Goodwill recently , I called BS. All their "good" stuff goes right to their auction site now and seems people know now as bid prices there have trippled over the last 3 years. Keep up the vids!

2 Months ago Canada Post FUBAR'd a pretty expensive parcel I was sending to Brazil.. the customer purchased all the expensive tracking ect... and guess where it has eneded up ... and pretty much right after I sent it..and it appears it's still there.... ISRAEL. Yes.. a package to Brazil is sitting in Israel. Canada post wouldn't even open up a case until the timeline of the tracking expected date of delivery was fullfilled.. and even now 2 weeks later they say it could be 30 days before they even know how it got there. Absurd right? If you owed them half a dollar you'd get a form in the mail within 5 days to pay that sucker back. The customer first informed me of this problem and I did not believe him at first.. it was so stupid.. and still is. And all my customer wants is the product.. he doesn't even care about the refund.

What ever happened to that quality 🤔 and not this cheap quality 🤔 we have now a day...

I would have done background to the unit’s specs, serviceability, parts availability. “Chinese Garbage”!

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

No parts available for this shit

Wow this has worse wow & flutter than a crappy VCR in the SLP speed does.

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

CRAPY VCR has a direct drive motor, so it shouldn't have much W&F

And this is the reason why I have STOPPED buying items from the USA ! It's almost cheaper just to drive down there to pick items up. Now that being said, I hate what Canada does to us on items coming into the country in terms of DUTY charges. Taxes are a crime !

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

I bet you enjoy all the benefits you get from those taxes though. No toll on roads, getting to see a doctor without having to shell out thousands out of pocket. The biggest scam is fed ex, ups and DHL. Sales tax gets paid regardless. If you buy something in a store you pay tax, if you import something you pay the same tax. If you went to the states you would pay state tax which varies from state to state. The couriers charge a fee which they then charge tax on that fee low cost items they generally don't collect tax on if shipped by mail but by the couriers they do.

Shipping a 20 pound box from California to Iowa $100.

They don’t make them like they used to

Had the same unit in my Sony complete hi-fi system. You know those all complete all in one things with a 6 cd changer on the bottom. Total crap. This is where Sony went crap.

Kinda sounds like a wurlitzer lol

sorry you are worser junk than this deck if you dont see that belt is out of his place. replacing and cleaning belt paths helps a lot even to 0.1 w/f in case of this deck. i had tascam 202 mkV and replacing belts in new machine helps reducing wow flutter a lot... and lubricating deck, even its mint new... and sony ... replacing rollers is essential

@12voltvids

2 ай бұрын

None of these are worth fixing. The guy that shipped this one abandoned it and I threw it away. Make nothing on this crap.

I thought Sony was a good brand. Like Panasonic. It's a shame they go cheap.

@_innerscape_

Жыл бұрын

Most big corporations (like Sony and Panasonic) make products on all the price spectrum, excluding very very low and very very high, it's up to the customer to choose how much to spend. Then there are companies that make only high level stuff (think Rolex or boutique hi-fi products or expansive whisky: anything above the diminishing return line) and low low level stuff (think generic Chang Star chinese brands rebranding the same cheap USB hub).

I’d take the transformer out and throw the rest away

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

Sell it as a parts machine.

To quote Huey Lewis, sometimes bad is bad.

Can't believe Sony made such CHEAP CRAP ! To think its the same company who made the beautiful ES Decks...

@KR1275

Жыл бұрын

We want it cheap, they make it cheap. It was less than 200 USD new.

Think all twin decks were cheap really I would never buy one

Thank your government, namely Trudeau, for the higher prices.

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

Thinks were broken long before trudeau. The tax hike started under Brian Mouroney with the introduction of the GST. Services that where never taxed before now had a 7% tax added. Everything, from restaurant to paying the barber that cuts your hair. Last time I checked he was a conservative. In 2010 they harmonized the provincial sales tax with the GST, which raised prices even more adding provincial tax to items previously exempt. That again under a conservative government federally and under BC liberals here.There was such an uproar out west that a referendum was launched, the sitting premier at the time Gordon Campbell was tossed and replaced by Christy Clark, and the HST removed and put back the old system. Prior to the tax changed by previous governments spending 40.00 to take your family out for pizza cost 40.00. After GST came in that rose to 42.80 and after they rolled in HST 45.20 for same thing. Harper gave us a break, reducing the GST from 7 to 5%, slap in the face basically. My personal income taxes have been lower under Trudeau and Horgan than previous governments. Keeping more of my hard earned dollars puts a smile on my face even if I do have to spend more due to inflation.

@tacofortgens3471

Жыл бұрын

@@12voltvids inflation is a tax

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

@@tacofortgens3471 not exactly.

@poisonduckee

Жыл бұрын

@@tacofortgens3471 inflation is the result of a lot of things. Currently corporations are just charging more for their products and services. That's probably the biggest influence to inflation currently.

I would save the transformer and throw the rest in recycling. Such a poor mechanical design. I cant see sony making that junk, outsourced.

Flat spots on the pinch roller? Poor choice of motors? Belts, pulleys slipping? Bad, cheap, design!

I don't buy any cassette deck that was made after 1983.

these units aren't worth nothing. i got one from goodwill for $5 before. thrift stores are full of these cheapo dual decks.

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

Yes i know. I have no idea what he paid for it but it cost 70 to get it to me.

@CT-vm4gf

Жыл бұрын

And probably in much better cosmetic condition as well.

everything has become more expensive all around the world it is not even funny

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

Can you say inflation?

Just junk...

That sounds like it needs a little WD-40

look up a company called netparcel heavy discounts on shipping labels via ups. and for the most part the us don't have to worry about crazy import fees since they get $800 import amount before they get tax vs our crappy $20. i use them alot i stopped using canada post when i found out about them canada post is a huge rip off.

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

I'm going to start using ups to return stuff. I still won't use them to receive as they charge 25.00 broker fees.

@mraaron1584

Жыл бұрын

@@12voltvids for sending to the us there is also couple companies one call Chit Chats and another called stallion express basically they take the package over the boarder for u and then ship it from with in the us then u basically pay the domestic rate vs international. last month i sold a motherboard package weight like 14 pounds had to sent it to the us. everywhere else wanted $30 to $40 to ship it. i used stallion express they took it some place in NY and shipped it fedex ground and cost was $22 cad .

@12voltvids

Жыл бұрын

@@mraaron1584 well i can take to the us myself to ship but the hassle is just not worth it.