For a long video you had my attention. Thank you for this deep dive into the new Sony Camera. I am interested and will look into it eventually.

Incredibly comprehensive review! Thank you!

You guys put a lot of work into this video. Thank you! It answered so many of my questions.

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! Jake

Still making my through this but this is already an excellent review, thank you so much CVP.

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I know it's a long one and appreciate your time. Jake

Your reviews are incredible!!! Seriously, the effort you put into it is amazing. Thank you so much for posting the files to download, that is very cool thing to do. A couple of weeks ago I was filming a couple TV spots with Venice at 6K in X-OCN and I was really, really impressed as compared to Arri Alexa/Amira. It would be awesome if one day you could do Venice / Alexa Mini / C500 MK II / FX9 test in the same controlled environment. If you could also post files the test that of course would be amazing.

A few edits/notes - Only the Mpeg Sub HD files are recorded on the XQD cards. The proxies are recorded on to the SD utility card. Also to be clear the Dual Base ISO is 800 / 4000 in SLOG-3. But when you're in custom mode the gamma you are shooting in changes that. Watch our short film shot with the FX9 here - kzread.info/dash/bejne/c2WItZWcadnAoKg.html Thanks for watching the video, what do you think of the FX9? Do you prefer long in-depth videos like this or should we separate them out into a few shorter videos? Here are the timestamps for the different chapters in the video. Physical - 00:50 Menu - 14:14 Tech Specs - 22:23 Controlled Comparisons - 30:16 Creative - 37:27 Conclusion - 45:32

Excellent review as always. Love the hockey footage - especially the fight haha!

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! and that was the only fight that night so glad we captured it. Jake

Wonderful review, very detailed and infromative, thank you.

Thank you for this extremely thorough review. Can't wait to get my hands on this camera.

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Jake

Fantastic in-depth review!

Thank you for the extensive tests. It goes to show how Sony have improved a lot on user feedback. I think its fair to say this is a little brother to the Venice for the normal operators, eng and docu or corporate users. The autofocus is impressive and the under and over exposing as well. Great that you included C500 mkII comparissons, where it really shows how strong the FX9 performs.

You guys are killing it! Thanks so much!

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ben!

I’ve been shooting on the FS7 for four years now and looking for an update more substantial than the FS7 II. I think it might have to be the FX9! Thanks for the highly detailed video 🙌🏻

Excellent test, I think the side by sides against the C500 II will be particularly helpful for people. Thanks very much for posting this!

35:57 FS7 to FX9 is remarkable. Skin tones and Bed hair clean up, significantly improved. Haha. Seriously great coverage. Well done guys.

Amazing Review Nice job

Thanks for review. Answered soooo many questions

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching. Jake

Thanks, this was awesome. I would love to see you guys compare this camera and the C500 mk ii

This was brilliant!!! Thank you.

Very perfect description ..keep uploading more reviews ..

Great review, man! Thank you!

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! Jake

Awesome review thank you

How would this camera be compared to the S1H in terms of video features an image quality?

Thank you for the very thorough review.

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Jake

Brilliant review

Really really well done video!

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Jake

So the one extremely useful feature on the Alpha cameras is the 1/2 Memory Recall buttons on the mode dial. I use those for fast frame rate changes. This would be the most useful thing if possible on the FX9

This was superb. Thank you! I have found AF doesn’t work on EF lenses. Metabones needs new firmware. Doesn’t work great in face mode thought. Latest mc-11 works really really well on the newer Sigma ART lenses. Although I need to update the firmware on those lenses

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Philip, appreciate your kind words. Yeah I want to test them all again once the firmware's for everything are released. Jake

@vaatimatonveivaaja3197

4 жыл бұрын

Just put the face detection off and put normal "squareshaped" AF insteadt. Should do it.

@mickymack1230

3 жыл бұрын

Slog 3

Holy Full Frame BEAST!

Excellent review ... thanks!

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Jake

Nicely done. Thank You.

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! Jake

Image quality is extraordinary

Quite confused by the Over/under results of the C500 mark ii. Can you tell us the Gamma, color gamut, and color matrix that we’re used for this test, and also which LUT you applied?

Yes Please More Videos On The Sony PXW-FX9 Vs Canon 500 Mk 2 Please Thanks Bro!!!!!

Awesome review.

Would love to see an AF comparison also with the Panasonic S1H thrown into the mix.

@philipbloom

4 жыл бұрын

kinda pointless no? The AF is terrible on the S1h

Could you do an Alexa vs Fx9 comparison like you did with the C500 mkII?

This is incredible. Thanks for being so indepth! Have you found the c500 mII raw to perform better than the XFAVC codec? It's really interesting finally seeing a comparison here, can't wait for more. You mentioned you last tests in CRM were much better, how does it compare with FX9 (or is it an unfair comparison since we don't have raw output yet?

Thanks for such a review rich with information. I have 2 on order.

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! You will not be disappointed with the cameras! Jake

the c500 ii seems to perform over and under similar to the c700 ff - what this shows is that the fx9 is absolutely remarkable in overexposure than most cameras, also how well the venice is as well on this

Amazing colors and AF...

God damn your review are simply the best, you guys go in so much details it's crazy. I enjoyed every second of it and now have no choice but to upgrade to an FX9 :P

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! What you upgrading from? Jake

@hpel1649

4 жыл бұрын

CVP I am currently shooting on a FS5, so maybe I should wait and see if they come out with an fx6 or whatever they call, it with only an Long-gop codec and SD cards.

Thank you! Subscribed!

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Jake

29:16 does the punch-in work while recording?

Great video please post more on the Sony FX9

Only the Mpeg Sub HD files are recorded on the XQD cards. The proxies are recorded on to the SD utility card.

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

I noticed how clunky my wording was when I re-watched the video on here before publishing. I will add your comment to the pinned comment!

Many thanks👍

As much as I love Kai W, and I say this with nothing against him but I am so glad he is not doing camera reviews for CVP. Really like your simple style and in depth breakdown of camera and gear. Keep up the good work🔥

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and the support! Jake

@LoverOfTech

4 жыл бұрын

@@CVPTV absolute pleasure mate🔥

The variable ND filter is one of the key features I would get this camera or the FS5m2/FS7.

@doug_EX

4 жыл бұрын

Me too. But I have to say that the auto focus, the gyro data and low light performance are quite impressive to me too. Did not consider the FX9 until now.

I'm still waiting for the Creative Rushes Download 😉

' can this camera fit with a Hi8mm videotape... is this camera can control stop blur focus in depth of field or NOT

A bit gutted they're using the same viewfinder connector as on the FS7, I've run into 2 FS7s and an FS5 which had issues with that type of port. Plenty of other good improvements on the upside!

Custom white balance in Cine EI mode? Praise gawd. Do you know if you can do a tint shift in cine ei mode after pulling your white?

Is there a way to make the transition of auto-focus smoother in the FX 9? To have it just pop out isn't as pleasing as it would be with a smooth transition. I do appreciate that it captures the face earlier than the Mark 2.

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Yes you can adjust this by using the AF Transition Speed & AF Subj. Shift Sens here - kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZGGfu9ajeJbLddY.html

Is the shape arm for the FS7 compatible with the FX9? Thanks

The autofocus test, that was the Canon 70-200 2.8 II or III vs the Sony G 70-200? And is that still a preproduction c500?

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

III vs the 2.8 G Master yes & yes I believe the unit we had was still a pre-production unit. Jake

Appreciate you comparing against the c500 ii. Looking forward to see if you can run them all against the Alexa mini!

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

You can kind of compare it against the mini if you watch both this video and this one - kzread.info/dash/bejne/kWiI09F7ctnKl5c.html where I compare the Mini with a few cameras! Jake

Love the video, please do this for the C500 Mark II before it comes out!!!!!

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

We've already done two videos going pretty in depth with the C500MKII which cover a lot! You can check them out here - kzread.info/dash/bejne/dJt4t5ute5eqo8o.html / kzread.info/dash/bejne/kWiI09F7ctnKl5c.html

Nice review... now lets see the video we have all been waiting for. Canon vs Sony head to head. C500 vs FX9... Fight

@zachhunter7897

4 жыл бұрын

The C500 mk II, like most of Canon's cinema line, is way overpriced, 6K or not. Canon just secured themselves another 5 or years as second fiddle to Sony in the 10-15k camera market.

I have one of these on order, based on what I know I need and some of the info out there. Had I seen this excellent video before I coughed up my deposit, I would just have committed to the big spend without pulling out so much hair. I am sure it is going to be a great camera and keep Sony as the industry standard in this range. It might even drag some Venice customers away. I wonder if Sony has something in the pipeline regarding that?

Thank You for this review, hope you get to replace that color checker really soon =]

great review! thanks for that :) now sony, put this sensor in an a7sIV and take my money :D

F55 is still my favorite cinema/video camera from Sony. You just can't beat the filmic motion rendering of global shutter. It's 14 stops of dynamic range is not as good as the Arri Alexas, but I'll gladly give up a stop of dynamic range for global shutter. The FX9 is a good b cam to go along with the F55, but given the choice I will choose the F55 over any other camera out there right now.

@MrCJHamill

4 жыл бұрын

Is it better than the Venice? How about the auto focus of the FX9 Vs the F55 Vs the Venice? Would that sway your decision? The FX9 seems to be getting really good auto focus reviews.

@thatchinaboi

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrCJHamill I'd rather have a dedicated focus puller. Lol

@MrCJHamill

4 жыл бұрын

@@thatchinaboi Yes I didn't really think about that. Big budget productions would usually have a focus puller.

@thatchinaboi

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrCJHamill The motion rendering of global shutter may seem trivial to many that claim the fast sensor read out of the Alexas and Reds are "good enough".. But I assure you the subtle difference between a rolling shutter with fast sensor read out and global shutter is subconsciously appreciable. That's why some big budget action films still use film cameras. Just look at the motion rendering on the F55 on Vimeo.

@thatchinaboi

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrCJHamill I just wished the F55 had a sensor that covers the maximum height of the image circle for the true 2:1 anamorphic look without cropping. For now, the best film cameras are still king in terms of best quality, albeit hella expensive and harder to work with in post.

can you back button focus with this?

Does it record sound in S&Q mode?

I have zero interest in owning this, I'll probably never work on one either, but I watched your video just in-case :) Great review !

Great in-depth review - what are the available aspect ratios, that you can choose in camera?

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

I do say in the video but it's going to be 16:9 and 17:9. Jake

@VedaFilmCompany

4 жыл бұрын

CVP thank you, missed that 🙏

Reading the comments , you mention CRM in relation to Canon, what does that stand for ? I’m on the market for a new camera and I just want to assess where I stand between Sony and Canon. Thank you. Great video as always.

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Canons RAW Light. Check out this video if you want to learn more about the C500II -kzread.info/dash/bejne/kWiI09F7ctnKl5c.html

From 33:54 to 34:19, I'm a little bit confused. Did you say that the C500 II is still a worse performer in underexposure/overexposure using CRM over XF-AVC? Or it's better in CRM over XF-AVC in terms of underexposure/overexposure? Great comparison and thank you in advance.

@CVPTV

3 жыл бұрын

It's better in CRM than XF-AVC. Jake

@davidjohnbalce1111

3 жыл бұрын

@@CVPTV thanks for answering. Great video!

Excellent breakdown and review! 1. Was the autofocus test done on canon or sigma lenses? I have a feeling using a non canon lens is why the c500 mk 2 isn’t gonna be as good. 2. Is it me or is the footage from the FX9 over-sharpened, punchy, and crushed? 3. Based on testing both cameras, which would you feel is better for narrative/doc work: c500 mk2 or FX9? Thank you!

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 1. Canon was the 70-200 2.8 III and Sony was their G master 2.8. 2. What footage are you referencing? 3. Both have pros and cons but if your planning on not shooting RAW I would go with the Sony. Jake

@javierdepablosvelez3602

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Jake, Thanks for the response! 1. Good to know- kind of a shame DPAF isn’t as good but that’s great news for Sony owners. 2. Footage in general from the tests you shot as far as the over sharpened look and then the crushed comment was regarding the footage from the hockey game. It’s not that it’s bad, just not my preference for out of the box look. 3. The FX9 has so many positives and I can see why it has true potential to dominate its market. Better colors, great AF, much better price, and same form everyone already loved from the FS7. My concern is most of the work I do is Canon based and I’m focusing more on cine work atm. The FX9 seems to have the better compressed format while just being an absolute pain when it comes to RAW (not as streamlined as the c500mk 2). My biggest concern is what you found regarding the dynamic range in the over/under test with the C500.

@DJAnamaly

4 жыл бұрын

@@CVPTV But I thought you said atomos is making the fx9 raw? I am interested in Raw for narrative and documentary work.

brabo!

Please do a rolling shutter test: Canon c500 mk II vs Sony fx9

@2gunzfilms425

4 жыл бұрын

Andrei Kizenko it would be nice if we didn’t even have to worry about rolling shutter. Give us a cc’d swnsor

@daniellove162

4 жыл бұрын

The industry has pushed the progression of so many technologies. I’m surprised that global shutter is ignored. I’ve had rolling shutter ruin more shots than weak dynamic range. ESPECIALLY when you try to do camera tracking in post.

To shoot 6K RAW in it , do we need to have external recording ?

I’ve had my hands on the FX9 twice and talked to a Sony guy about it. I’ll wait using/buying the FX9 until the first updates are coming next summer. The FS7 mk-I has 4K DCI and the 2K Center Image mode are both important features I use and would miss with the FX9. What I wonder is why some smaller adjustments and improvements are missing that makes a difference when working with the camera. I assume many of us work with different cameras of diverse camera manufacturers and could tell Sony about some easy to implement features. Is Sony asking anyone for this input? What about buttons that can be backlit when working in darker areas as a teater where it is not popular to use a torch? Buttons that can be switched off completely in the menu (as for example the «Full Auto» button at the FS7 MK-I, the Iso/Gain, Wht bal, Shutter buttons..) I don’t usw them and it is just irritating when I touch them by accident. It is mentioned that the Thumbnail button is such a candidate to. The LCD monitor cable that is weak and cannot be easily when it is broken (and that is happening). The bad plastic that is used at the Viewfinder and is broken at my camera. Sony wants 400.-€ for fixing this. A part that costs some cents. Good I could fix it with gaffer tape and super glue. The microphone adapter that breaks quite often, good this hasn’t been changed! Placement of buttons at the operator side that should easily be founded when working handheld/on shoulder. Why is the camera gray and not black. Black is better when thinking of reflections on windows etc. Why is there no recording lamp on the LCD when turning of all display info by pushing the Display button? Beta Sp cameras had this light... The record button of the new handle: why is it replaced? It makes more sense to have it next to the thumb as it was on the FS7 instead of «hiding» it between the other buttons. Sometimes recording must happen instantly. The menu is a mess. It doesn’t seem to be really improved. Without the User menu I would hate using the FS7. Menu bugs haven’t been fixed at least until v4.0. Why is it when using the Sony zoom 18-110 at Video>Monitor LUT ONLY possible to turn the MLUT for for SDI1&Internal «Off» and the other 3 settings «On» when the setting at System>Lens is «OFf» for Distirtion Comp. ?? You can find out in which case this is an issue:) Is it possible to transfer my settings for the FS7 to the FX9? I assume not. I’m sure there are more issues I don’t remember right noe. But of course the FS7 is a money maker and a work horse and I have my workarounds, but all this issues are why I would instantly switch to another camera if there would be a real competitor on the marked for my kind of work.

@axeldietrich3347

4 жыл бұрын

Sony guy said the LCD screen is actually a touch screen and will be activated later. He didn’t know when.

@axeldietrich3347

4 жыл бұрын

My hope is that Sony sees this:) A good camera but these details make me wait and see if there is coming a better camera or if these issues are going to be improved later by Sony. At the moment it is a camera made by engineers. Why should I buy an uncompleted camera lacking standard features as 4K DCI?

@axeldietrich3347

4 жыл бұрын

Another question I have is why the FS7/FX9 is labelled as very good for handheld work. In comparison the shoulder cameras as DigiBeta etc where much more balanced. FS7/FX9 is much more shaky (but still much better than it’s competors nowadays)

yaaawn!

Sony's autofocus looks really great. Too bad the interface to select the autofocus points is a microscopic Atari joystick. That was a bonehead move by Sony. They should have went with a touchscreen. The FX9 ticks off so many boxes, it's weird they chose to handicap their amazing autofocus with a janky knob.

@jaggedtoothX

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's weird. Their cheap mirrorless cameras can all do it. I feel like Sony could have at least given us the option to buy a touchscreen with it.

Anyone please help, can you import your own custom luts into the FX9?

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

You can't yet. We have told Sony they should add it so let's wait and see if they do! Jake

The FX9 top handle is different to the FS7 (has a slight rise at the bottom rear) so some FS7 top plates that fit inside the handle won't fit the FX9.

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Noted! I need to try all of the existing and new rigs out and put a list together as I know this is something both customers and our sales staff are going to be asking! Thanks, Jake

@joelawryDOP

4 жыл бұрын

Do we know if the Wooden Camera FS7 top plate will work if you want to use the stock handle?

@joelawryDOP

4 жыл бұрын

Answering my own question for other peoples benefit. Yes the WC FS7 top plate fits fine on my FX9 with the stock sony handle still installed.

Did you say “industry standard” in the beginning of the video?

The camera you are using to make this KZread video, creates helluva moire on your shirt :)

Please do a rolling shutter test.

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

This shows it quite a lot! kzread.info/dash/bejne/c2WItZWcadnAoKg.html

Does the autofocus features on the FX9 work with canon EF Lenses (with metabones or without)?

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

I need to test it with some newer firmware metabones adapters. Jake

Yes Please , the difference between the C500 ‘s customer and and the FX9 ‘s customer !

I'm curious; why did you choose to under and overexpose the cameras by 5 stops? I can't think of why any one would want to over expose that much in a real world scenario. Is it just to find the camera's breaking point, or have you experienced the need for that much pushing and pulling? Thanks!

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly for that reason, to show extremes! Jake

That lack of internal RAW is a deal breaker. It would have been the perfect camera for us.

@MrlegendOr

4 жыл бұрын

Canon RAW isn't real RAW. is processed RAW like BRAW

ok I just bought one now I need to watch this entire 47:09 video

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Did you watch it all? Jake

Nice video I would say you should use a de-sser on your voices overs. They have a lot of high-end frequencies that are all in your face. And makes it hard to listen to on good headphones or monitors.

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and the tip! Jake

Great review Cinema 5D can learn this from you.

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Jake

@raredreamfootage

4 жыл бұрын

It's because CVP is a store. They're selling.

@ThomazMartinez

4 жыл бұрын

@@raredreamfootage No other store is doing like CVP most of the other store only talk good things about their product but don't go in-dept

@CineD

4 жыл бұрын

We love our friends (and partners) at CVP and their work, and this is not a pissing contest :-) We will work on a longer-term FX9 review, more from a user's perspective. No rush with this one! Nino

@CineD

4 жыл бұрын

@@ThomazMartinez I totally agree with your second comment! Nino

Does the zoom control on the grip handle communicate with the Sony FE 70-200mm?

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

No it does not as that lens does not have a zoom servo motor. Jake

I found two different videos where people said they were shooting in 25p... I know that 25/50fps used to be standard in a large chunk of the world, but aren't all displays capable of 24/30/60 now so isn't that kind of obsolete? Shoot 24 for film-like quality or 30/60 for standards compatiblity...

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Here in the UK the standard is still 25!

@Cowclops

4 жыл бұрын

@@CVPTV But isn't it actually 50i/50p? UK tvs in the 90s weren't 25p, they were 50i.

Why not upload the 4k version?

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

This is a 4K upload What browser are you using?

I'm not understanding how the "Over and Under" exposure test was done here. By your explanation of the test, each shot should be getting brighter or darker as you changed the aperture.

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

In resolve we adjust exposure back to our base exposure using the colour chart. Jake

Supreme high standard quality review. Impressed !

The dual base ISO's are not always 800 and 4000. That is only in CineEI. In Custom mode the base ISO's ratings are much lower and dependant on the choice of gamma curve.

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

I say this in the video. Jake

@alisterchapman

4 жыл бұрын

@@CVPTVAt 6:06 you clearly state that the dual ISO's are 800 and 4000 compared to the FS7's 2000. This is only true of S-log3. I spend half my life explaining that ISO is dependant on gamma and statements like that confuse the hell out of people and lead them to shoot with high levels of gain because "they heard it on the web" that the base ISO is "X" when in reality the camera has many different base ISO's depending on how it is setup. So to state that the base ISO is "X" without also making it clear that this is only in a specific mode is highly miss-leading.

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

@@alisterchapman I agree I should have been a bit clearer with explaining it but at 16:00 I actually reference your talk at Vocas and say that when in custom the base sensitivity is defined by the gamma you are shooting in.

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

@@alisterchapman Also I think this may be worth mentioning to Sony as their own Manual doesn't even list the different base sensitivities in the different gammas.

@alisterchapman

4 жыл бұрын

@@CVPTV Page 71 of the manual lists the ISO ranges for each gamma curve type, lowest being base.

30 seconds into this video I was like YUP worth the upgrade.... lol.

@DollyRanch

4 жыл бұрын

We Rose Network it's a shame it can't record 6K@60p, not even externally. C500ii has it beat there

@CVPTV

4 жыл бұрын

Both have pro's and con's! Jake

why is all the footage slightly green?

I NEED THIS ... but my wallet say "no" :D :D the fx9 bringst such amazing features to the table ... i am completely in love

Your neck must be swole after all those tests. ;P

wow the c500ii is freakin cleaner than the fx9 at 32:40

@MrlegendOr

4 жыл бұрын

FX9 beat c500ii on every aspect. AF, Color, Dynamic range, sharpness, noise reduct, better sensor, ND Filter, Audio I/O, One operator control, and more. Sony lack just one thing, internal RAW. but FX9 does not think to be a cinema camera but for broadcast.

@dcd6115

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrlegendOr They each have their pros and cons. The Sony does hold its own, especially for it being the cheaper the camera. But the Canon beats it when it's being shot in RAW (which was not shown in this video). The Canon has true anamorphic, interchangeable mounts, touchscreen autofocus control (much better than Sony's joystick), larger LCD, optional viewfinder, electronic image stabilization, true 6K at 60fps. I also like the form factor of the C500 II so much better than the awkward Sony. I still don't understand what they're doing with that form factor. It's front heavy and doesn't sit on the shoulder well and yet you can't really hold it in front of you with the grip being on that extender arm and whatnot. Out of the box, I'm not really sure how Sony wants you to hold it. It seems like you either need and additional shoulder mount or an Easy Rig. All in all, they are both great cameras. I think the Sony might be the better buy though. I love the new Venice Cinetone color. It looks really great.

@MrlegendOr

4 жыл бұрын

@@dcd6115 FX9's 4k downsample from 6k look better( more sharp, less noise, better dynamic range) than canon's 6k With 0 downsampling You don't get any benefice to shoot with 6k sensors who lack dynamic range and soft your image. (make side by side test Downsample 6k will blow your mind) When sony will put out 6K, it will be a 6k downsample from 8K. Overall FX9 beat c500ii on most important camera aspects. better AF, now better Color, better Dynamic range, sharpness, noise reduct, better sensor, ND Filter, Audio I/O, One operator control (this is why everyone loves the FS7), and more. For me, the form factor is not a big deal. The Design is awkward for you I can understand that. but not for me and for most of the people. I can easily balance my camera with a big/small lens and Fx9 is not the heaviest Camera of the market. Yeah you cant use it on gimbale but who use a gimbal on films or commercials today? Yes, FX9 lacks RAW aspect but this is compensated by a huge dynamic range. don't forget that Canon's RAW is very heavy better use XAVC or PRORES you gain 3-5 stops of Dynamic Range and space. FX9 does not think to be a real cinema camera, but a broadcast, video clip, short films, Commercial and Doc Camera. Don't take me wrong. C500MKII is not a bad Camera. Canon needs to improve one thing for me its Camera sensors. Sony is more advanced in this department.

@CVP - Filming sport at 25fps? You really dont see problems in this low fps? 50 FPS is another world.