That demo video you made with his injuries literally just cracked me up 😂😂

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Shhh... don't tell everyone! 😂

Great inflection and energy in your read and review. Very pleasant to listen to! Thanks for this!!

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you... it's appreciated 👍

Great review and congrats with the cam!

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind comment... it might take a few years before if we know if this camera makes good business sense! 👍

That craftsman video so INCREDIBLE. I laughed so hard at the end.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Oh... thank you! Steve's very proud of his wooden gimbal 😂

That slow mo shot of the blocks of wood wobbling their way to the craftsman's workbench is British humour at it's finest!

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Steve's just not as fast as he once was !!! 😂

I think your opening chat is very true. It is rare we get to choose the camera we love the most!

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Seems that way!

Thank you for a very nice and informative FX9 rundown. Most videos I've seen just go on about the headline-features like the usual salespitch. But you've got alot of info here thats miles more useful. Fantastic. Maybe I'll swap my FS7m2 :)

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Andreas... very kind of you to say so! Your FS7M2 already has better colour science and variable ND doesn't it? Much harder decision !!!

So calm and well explained!!! Very nice video! That camera looks sweet!

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment... it's appreciated. For all its faults... I still think it's very sweet!

Thank you sir - this was a very well done review

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you VideoDrone... very kind!

Probably the best picture straight out of camera i've seen in a long time. Looks really natural. Beautiful and realistic colors. Awesome!

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

True... those pictures... all the other issues become irrelevant!

I've wondered where Steve's been all this time :P Great video as always!

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Adam... very kind! 👍

I LOVED that carpenter video! So spot on. Thanks! :-)

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

... and thank you for saying so... appreciated!

Great video and well put together

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Al... kind of you to say so!

Great purchase. Brilliant choice. Enjoy

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Yep... still enjoying it... ! 👍

Terrific review, thanks for this. Have you had a chance to evaluate the rolling shutter?

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment... actually I did do the usual test for rolling shutter and decided the video was getting too long! In fact, there's nothing much to report. It's all pretty acceptable without being amazing. Obviously, there's a little more rolling shutter when shooting Full Frame... but if you need to do a fast pan you could always drop down to S35 for the shot. The S35 mode did seem better than my F5... but I'd have to get both cameras together for a definitive comparison.

Ordered two of the handheld tanalised all-weather Woodstock DSLR cages thanks. You Nailed this review of the FX9 perfectly, got a body. best I could afford will make it work - waiting for FE C 16-35 mm T3.1 G.....will see how good catalyst really is

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Nice lens.... and thank you for the kind words! 👍

BEST FX9 REVIEW!!!! Hilarious and informative as always. BTW keep that guy away from saws and wood!! LOLOLOL

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Michael, luckily, the head injury means he can't remember any of it !!! 😂

Thanks for the video. Always very enjoyable and informative. I'm thinking of getting rid of my Ursa mini pro g2 and buying this thing. The autofocus is so good. Cheers.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Will, thanks for the comment... I think, for the first time, I can confidently say, Sony have nailed it with the colour science. Up until this camera, I would have hesitated to suggest selling an Ursa Mini Pro... I love the looks that you can get from the Blackmagic, it's also a great camera. However, this FX9 makes it a much harder decision. 👍

Loved the "woodworker" sequence, half way through I started to think, hang on a minute !

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

He tells me he's taking orders for the wooden gimbal... I'm just glad I kick started his new career ! 😂

We met again & I am happy to find you in my recommendation again.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

... and nice to see you back - Thank you!

Absolutely loved your review. I’m about to purchase an FX9 as soon as they are in stock and this just reinforced my decision. About the stabilization, though, isn’t the 28-135 lens stabilized and did you test it at all?

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Ryan... thanks for the kind comment. Yes the 28-135 does have optical stabilisation and it works quite well... if slightly subtle way! I've been using it a lot as most of my clients don't want to be bothered with another workflow step through Catalyst Browse for the internal stabilisation with the motion sensor. (Sony need to produce those plug-ins for FCPX, Premier, AVID and Resolve asap). I have done some tests with both methods... and the first surprise was that the I.S. will only work in post if all of the O.I.S is turned off on the lens (or any lens for that matter). I believe a lot of the accuracy Sony have achieved with the I.S., and the motion sensors, is because they need to know exactly what the lens is doing with regard to focal length, focus position and movement... so it you turn on the O.I.S. it doesn't know what's happening !!! Trouble is... you're usually sitting in post before you realise you can't use the motion sensor stabilisation from the meta data... so don't forget to turn off O.I.S. if you want to try it.

Great review and fantastic looking footage. I agree that this may be the best camera to buy based on business decision. I know my FS7 was. You gained a new subscriber!

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind comment, and the sub, it's appreciated... I'm sure Sony will be pleased with getting anywhere near the FS7 sales!

Thank you for producing this video. Though I am not looking to purchase I found it quite informative. Sony do produce well balanced gear and the FX9 appears to fit the bill for many. I must admit the Loupe has been a drama even for me with the FS7 which is my A cam for my commercial work. Cheers from Australia.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind comment. You're right the loupe is not the best design. The picture on the actual viewfinder screen has improved, with much higher resolution, and the squared off bar does help stop it all drooping! But really, Sony should have given this a bit more thought. Sometimes, I wonder if they are actively helping the 'after-market' suppliers? 😳. Cheers, from Bournemouth!

Great video thank you, I guess it is time to buy one.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you too.... (the camera or the wooden gimbal?) 😂

Great review - I’m buying one because I’ve been hacking my way through jobs with an FS700/Odyssey 7Q combo, but it was obvious that that combo is cumbersome and past it. For me it was a no brainer upgrade, but it was weird buying it without knowing how the camera worked or what features are really the best. Your review has helped a lot :)

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ollie... I do hope it works well for you. Certainly be easier not carrying the 7Q around!... and the picture quality is stunning, that sensor is going to be a classic !!!

Not sure what you shot this 1 on but at about 2:30ish the focus starts to wander.I've noticed this on a lot of Autofocus cameras,possibly using eye tracking or face recognition?, at the point where you are talking about the sensors being about 8 years old ? What is going on there I wonder?

Enjoy your new camera Paul! By the way the parody craftsman piece with the added bandages detail, gave me a good laugh. A bit of a bummer about the lack of variety of real power inputs but no doubt third party solutions are already designed and soon on the way. Is the perceptual graded picture quality better than that you saw coming from the Panasonic S1H graded footage? TheFX9 will no doubt be a very popular run and gun broadcast camera as well as a cheaper higher end documentary alternative. A good and reasoned choice.😃👍🏾🙏🏾

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Eugene, that's a good question... and a very subjective personal judgement, but I think the FX9 wins for me... that sensor is just a peach, and the way it handles highlight roll-off is up there with the best. Obviously, on a cost basis the S1H is amazing... and when you can output RAW onto an external recorder it might be a different story?

@EugeneMaynard

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Paul! I will definitely be waiting for that review with the SH1 +raw when it is eventually implemented! 😉🙏🏾

That transition was lit. Great video though.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

You know I'm old right?... not sure if 'lit' is good or bad! 😂

That intro with Peter Griffin's "Taa-Daaaa" just SLAYED me! XD

Price and availability for the gimbal please. Really nice to see something made in the UK. Do you have a distributor?

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

I'm just his agent... obviously I'll need a cut.

Very good overview. I own two FS7's and the FX9 is the next logical upgrade. You can easily load custom LUTS into the FS7 so it should be possible with the fx9. What I like about the fx9 is the focus tracking, and out of the box useability. You can set this up on the FS7 and even use Venice type LUT designed by Alister Chapman I think. There's also lots of “hyper-gamma” modes too which look very good. My FS7's will probably become B cams ... Only one wish and that's inbuilt optical stabilisation but you can't have everything.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

I have heard a rumour that user LUTs may be coming... and the focus tracking might even get an 'eye' tracking at some point... but on the whole, I think this is going to be one of Sony's 'classic' cameras (and the FS7 is a very hard act to follow). I must say... compared to the F5 with it's difficult to adapt FZ lens mount, the FX9 is a joy for usability! Thanks for the kind words Chris, take care.

Hi my dear colleague from the island. Thank you so much for your thoughts about the fx9. I like your style of mixing important information with British humor. Cheers for that! As I habe preordered a fx9 I am always on the hunt for news an tricks and opinions about my new future toy. One question: you mentioned horrible aliasing in a 2 k mode. Which mode do you exactly mean? As I will have to deliver FullHD in lots of cases to my clients it would be terrible to know a decrease in picture quality in certain modes caused by downscaling or anything like that. Thanks in advance, and keep on filming. Greez from Hamburg, Matthias

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Matthias, don't worry... it's gets complicated with the FX9 because we've now got four (and possibly soon five) different ways to scan the sensor and two different output resolutions. You can scan the sensor at FF-6K S35-4K FF-2K and S35-2K If you scan the sensor at 6K or 4K the output resolution of 4K or HD looks great. The 2K scans are really designed to reduce the data rate in order to allow for super slowmo of 120fps in HD. It does this by skipping pixels which causes really bad aliasing, which you don't notice at 120fps but looks horrible at normal frame rates. Stay away from 2K scans and your clients full HD will look wonderful !!!

best review ever 10/10

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

wow... thank you!

Great review

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jonathan, appreciated!

Thanks for the video.. right behind you as an f5 owner about to buy this fx9 beast.. are you keeping your f5..? I ask as Im wondering if the resale value is very low.. I would keep mine and just get the extra rental out of it by using it on some shoots.. if say 10 days working with it is more than I can sell it for..

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Robin, No, the F5 has already gone... probably too cheap... but I wanted to sell it before the prices started to drop quickly. I'm still scarred from selling my £30K digibeta on eBay for £250 including lens !!! 😂. I suppose, if there's a rental market, then it would be worth keeping if the rentals = sale price? I don't mind saying... I got £4.5K for the F5 body, plus shoulder mount, EF adaptor etc. and using my man maths... that makes the FX9 quite a bargain. 👍

@robinprobyn1971

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot ok thanks Paul.. by luck I kept my dust covered digibeta literally under the bed and got £1,500 trade in for the f5 ! .. this was a UK / Europe ? thing but paid the airfare for a holiday too.. yes fx9 is incredibly cheap esp for us that remember paying 50/60K$ for camera,s.. I really hope Sony's largesse includes the new cine lenses .. but maybe its the razor blade theory they are working with .. give away the razor ,blades expensive :)

10:44 Ha, I just love the head bandage and finger plasters. Very dry humour.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you... Steve wasn't that impressed, said I made him look like an idiot !!! 😂

That “push button thing from Shape” at 06:18 - do you have an affiliate link for purchases so that you make some money when I buy one?

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

I don't Ollie, sorry.... I'm a bit slow on all that stuff. Thinking about it... wouldn't it encourage me to praise kit for the wrong reasons?

@NoCredits

4 жыл бұрын

I’d not heard of them until I watched your video, and I can find them myself, but if I had the choice to click on a link that rewarded you for your work then I would have. I understand that you want to remain independent though, so I’ll like and share the video instead :)

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@NoCredits Thanks Ollie, that's very kind!

What do you think about C500 MKii?

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

I would like to do a review asap... I've played with one but haven't actually used it for any length of time. It's clearly a great camera, and obviously, the main competitor to the FX9. On the plus side, I really like having internal Canon RAW lite, it's a very nice codec, and the lockable IBIS, but on the down side it's very data hungry, which certainly goes through cards at some pace... and obviously, the price. It's 50% more than the FX9... this shouldn't matter at this level, but that's quite a bit of cash to most owner operators? The biggest question I have is the EF lens mount... that's getting quite old now and designed for DSLR's. I know there's a lot of EF lenses around but I can't help thinking this was the time they should have pushed the RF mount and included an adaptor? The pictures I've seen are very nice... it has that Canon 5Dm2 feel we all loved when it first came out !!!

How many battery’s would you need for a full day shooting in 4K ?

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

It depends how big your batteries are... at the moment I'm using 75Wh BP-U style, which, in theory, with the camera pulling 35W would be just over 2 hours. You can get this battery in 98Wh which would be nearer to three hours. Alternatively, if you put a V-Lock adaptor on the back then I seen these go almost to 300Wh or nearer to 8 hours continuous use. All of these figures should be taken as guides only because many things will shorten the running time... including the weather!

@robinprobyn1971

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot Do you think you will go V mount .. I need at least 1 D tap and the new Sony batts dont have them.. plus for weight I think I would go the V mount road.. Core one looks the best to me so far ..

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@robinprobyn1971 Hi Robin, definitely yes.... I'm hoping to do a review shortly of the three main adaptors I can get hold of.... Hawk Woods, Core and Wooden Camera... as soon as I've shot the review I'll sell the two I don't need... I also need a couple of power outputs and moving the weight back will help a lot.

@robinprobyn1971

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot I got my beast and by luck the show room had the Core V mount ! so I got that one and some tiny mini V mount 98wh batts .. loving it all so far .. a few more bits in the post ..

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@robinprobyn1971 Nice one... I still haven't got the wooden camera adaptor, they are like gold dust in the UK. I was going to do a review as soon as I had all three !!! How are you getting on with the FX9? What do you think?

genuinely cackled at the craftsman bandages

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Steve's not happy! 😂

I noticed one little thing. There is a show I film for, where the interviews need to be shot at 25fps and the b-roll etc at 50fps. All in 1080. But when I switch framerate, it jumps to 4K... I noticed that in the FS7 a long time ago and is something they fixed. Hopefully they'll fix that in the FX9 as well...

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

A few people have mentioned that... I'm sure the request has got through to Sony engineers... they seem quite good at wanting feedback at the moment. In the mean time, what I do is memorise an 'All Files" file for each setup. Then I can quickly switch formats safe in the knowledge that everything, (inc. shutter, frame rate etc.) goes back to where I want. It's a pain that the camera re-boots each time you switch, but it's still quicker than having to go through the menu each time! I'm planning another quick video with all the tips and tricks I've found on the FX9... hopefully soon!

@EdwinvandenAkker

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot The weird thing is, that Friday it didn't switch between resolutions. It almost seemed like a problem that appears randomly. There must be a reason that it doesn't do that.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@EdwinvandenAkker Strange?

Great review! I wonder how it compares with the Varicam's dual ISO?

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

I can tell you because I've tried them both... the FX9 is much cleaner. I suspect that it's a mixture of improved tech going on behind the Exmor R sensor, and just as importantly,, the full frame size physically collecting more light! Although the base 5000 is higher than the 4000 on the FX9 it actually feels the other way around simply because of the noise levels.

@retrospective

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot Ok wow that's something! Panasonic has always marketed the dual ISO of its Varicams but now perhaps Sony has taken over that. How about the colour science in comparison?

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@retrospective That's a tougher question... I've always liked the look of the Varicam's... the 'colour science', or whatever we call that thing that makes them look so good out of the box, has traditionally been a big Panasonic selling point. For years, Sony haven't been able to get that right... although you could grade them to look good, it was always hard work. Things changed when they developed the Venice... they put a lot of work into making the look of that camera appeal to Hollywood DOP's. I feels like a lot of that effort is now trickling down to the cheaper cameras... everyone wants that 'Venice' look. IMHO the FX9 nails it. This camera is all about that full frame sensor. To answer your question is tough because it's such a subjective decision!

@retrospective

4 жыл бұрын

​@@extrashot I agree, Sony got the colour science so well with the FX9. It looks so good out of the box (w/ the Venice like LUT) and that's a rare characteristic that's usually reserved for higher-end cameras such as the Alexa. Usually, you need to "massage" it post to get it right. As an LT owner I'm drawn to the FX9's out of the box Venice like colours, lighter weight, and lower power consumption. I'm a big fan of your channel, I hope you can make technical and footage comparisons with existing camera's out in the market that's more or so priced around the same bracket as the FX9.

I worked with the FX9 today. And I love it... so far. Especially in low light conditions. I need to do some extreme testing yet. Maybe next week. Also, I hope that new firmware will add all the things you mentioned. Good tip, to assign the High ISO to button 9. I had it on button 8. It happened a couple of times that I accidentally pushed button 8 with my cheek. I just changed it. Thanks! And I can't get the high framerate to work for some super-slomo shots. I should read the manual first... but hey... I'm a guy. We men first play around. Then figure things out in books, right?

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Yep... I started pressing high ISO by accident... until I moved it out of the way! I now hear a 5K scan at 50P should be in the firmware soon, 180fps, and maybe even the return of user LUTs, lets hope Sony support it as well as they did the F5? It is a great camera... I recon it's the best Sony have done for years. Now... where's that manual?

No camera image stabilization. Did you try using any lenses with image stabilization?

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

No in-body stabilisation.... but yes all my lenses with stabilisation work fine (even the Canons on a Metabones adaptor). The camera does have the gyro stabilisation using the metadata from the motion sensor - which is brilliant... but you can't use this at the same time as lens stabilisation... it needs to work solely from the camera movement and can't cope if it doesn't know what the lenses are doing!

Congrats! I am considering this camera, it's... an almost a perfect looking camera. I never pulled the trigger on the Varicam LT last year, despite the price drop, because it felt like 4 year old technology, and this camera showcases some of where the future of medium tier cameras are going. Blazing fast autofocus, dual ISO, Variable ND... Those are all game-changers for solo doc shooters like me. My biggest gripe with this box is the 10 bit limit, not 12 bit internally, and not even 12 bit out the 12g SDI, only 16 bit, and somewhere down the road, any no-one knows quite how it will work. I shoot 12 bit now, on my 8 year old FS700 with my trusty old Odyssey, with it's dinosaur sensor, granted, but it seems strange that in 2020, this FX-9 doesn't offer this. Maybe there is a F5/ F55 replacement coming after all?...

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Johann... maybe.... but if there is, you can bet it'll be significantly more expensive! What's a half way price between the FX9 and Venice? 😱 When it comes to the FX9....recording 16bit onto an Atomos recorder sounds interesting for the rare occasions I need RAW.

@JohannBauermeister

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot It will be interesting to see what the RAW solution ends up being. Hope its do-able, would be great for landscapes where extra colour detail comes into play. At the end of the day, this camera offers incredible useful features, has the best sensor bar top end cine cameras, and for my purposes, with the phase detection autofocus, the best sensor period. They've updated the colour filter array and science, and like you say, the image looks great. When I'm on the road, having the camera do the quantising and processing saves a lot of valuable hard drive space, which is actually a big plus. Also worth mentioning- Sony is still the only Japanese manufacturer that has their mirrorless mount running right through their camera range, which enables me to use any vintage lens, which is a downside to the C500 2's EF mount, a misstep in my opinion. Also, when that bloody A7S 3 finally drops, one can add a great little backup/ gimbal camera to the travel kit.... Anyway, hope you'll share some more thoughts on the camera as you go along after some field testing. Thanks for your insight.

@JohannBauermeister

4 жыл бұрын

​@@extrashot It will be interesting to see what the RAW solution ends up being. Hope its do-able, would be great for landscapes where extra colour detail comes into play. At the end of the day, this camera offers incredible useful features, has the best sensor bar top end cine cameras, and for my purposes, with the phase detection autofocus, the best sensor period. They've updated the colour filter array and science, and like you say, the image looks great. When I'm on the road, having the camera do the quantising and processing saves a lot of valuable hard drive space, which is actually a big plus. Also worth mentioning- Sony is still the only Japanese manufacturer that has their mirrorless mount running right through their camera range, which enables me to use any vintage lens, which is a downside to the C500 2's EF mount, a misstep in my opinion. Also, when that bloody A7S 3 finally drops, one can add a great little backup/ gimbal camera to the travel kit.... Anyway, hope you'll share some more thoughts on the camera as you go along after some field testing. Thanks for your insight.

Hilarious test video.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

i've used a tonne of cine/video cameras for different clients and sony cameras, i've never felt comfortable with. they just don't FEEL nice to use for me. tho i suppose i've mainly used blackmagic ursa cameras and canon cameras and a few times ARRI and those are ezpz 2 use imo. I haven't used this exact camera but honestly, it looks like the kind of camera that would take AGES to get used to, the ursa pro g2 button layout is simple and makes sense. just looking at the IO of this it looks like they made it easier to make and more things tessellate well behind the camera then what would feel intuitive for any operator

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Matthew, I do know exactly what you mean about the Sony 'feel'... they seemed to lose their way after the old Digibeta style! However, for me, the FX9 feels like a big improvement over recent Sony efforts. Personally, I loved the Ursa Mini Pro picture quality but found the 'feel' a little cheap... so I suppose it's all a very subjective judgement?

That movie was fun :D

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it... (probably more than Steve!)

@hiawrj

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot Haha :D

Nice breakdown. I'll stick with my FS7. I've got it dialed in so that it's not so green, and has skin tones. Plus the rental market for FS7 is still so robust.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tyler... and I suspect you're right, I think it's a much harder decision for FS7 owners than ageing F5's. (that's cameras not the owners!)

For vid journalists the autofocus seems really interesting

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

I was hoping vid journalists wouldn't notice that !!! 😂

This video is so relaxing to watch, and listen to #namaste

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Oh thank you Sean!

Great video as always. That s-cinetone mode looks great, but no s-cinetone lut for slog3? That's crazy. The four worst things about the FS7 were the "viewfinder," color science, lack of power outputs, and overly complicated modes and settings. Seems like they fixed one of those, but they didn't make my job as an AC any easier. That viewfinder loupe is gonna break at least once every 3 months. And the viewfinder cable still doesn't look long enough to balance a big zoom lens like the canon 17-120. At least the image will look better (in s-cinetone, in custom mode, in 4k).

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment... and I fear you may be right, although, as I've been a Sony user for some time, I've got used to the complicated modes now. I hadn't thought about the length of the viewfinder cable... but you're right about that too. With a heavy lens you've either got to balance with a heavy battery or push the camera too far back. I'd already realised the squared viewfinder bar wasn't long enough !!! I bet there will be a good market for accessories?

@theinternet8319

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot Yeah, owner ops can usually rig something that makes sense, but all the rental houses I've worked with send FS7's with stock parts (first world problems). You should check out Zacuto's replacement loupe, which is significantly shorter and helps with the cable/rod situation. It's kinda expensive, but I think it's worth it. It's also awesome that they moved timecode onto the main body so you won't need that sony v-mount back anymore. Seems like that opened the door for some good looking 3rd party backs. www.coreswx.com/store.coreswx/product/cxv-fx9/

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@theinternet8319 I had thought about the Zacuto Loupe... might have to wait to next month! The Core V-Lock for the FX9 looks great. I'm hoping to do a video comparing that with the Hawk Woods and Wooden Camera solutions too. Need to try something... if only to add weight to the back !!!

@theinternet8319

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot 👍👍👍

I’d be very surprised if the DC power input cannot accept 24v. Onboard regulation is present on virtually all professional electronics, whether explicitly stated or not.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting thought Peter, the specs say 18v - 20.5v ... I think I'll let someone else try 24v first !!! 😂

@artysanmobile

4 жыл бұрын

extrashot Where’s your sense of adventure? That is a truly bizarre choice on Sony’s part. Usually, pro gear with a pro price brings with it the advantage of industry standards. Though of all manufacturers, Sony is often the first to violate this sort of thing, at least in my experience with their pro audio products. At a point of maximum frustration, we used to joke that Sony was an acronym for Serving Ourselves, Not You. Of course we made that joke while continuing to use their groundbreaking products.

@cyvideoprods

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot The FX9 power requirement for the following typical setup and shooting condition is: Power Requirements DC 16-19V Power Consumption Approx. 35.2 W (while recording XAVC-I QFHD 59.94p, SELP28135G Lens, Viewfinder ON, not using external device) Operating Temperature 0°C to 40°C - 32°F to 104°F. if you already have a V Loc plate with a regulated 12V or unregulated D Tap output just using a 9 to 18 volt input to a 19 volt 5 amp 95 watt step up DC/DC converter will work. Just insert it between the 12V output of the V Loc plate and the 19V DC input on the camera and you would more than meet the voltage and current requirements of the FX9. A water proof DC/DC converter with a 19V output and a 5A output that can handle up to a 95 watts draw with a 40MV ripple spec will fit the bill quite nicely. This more than doubles the power and current requirements of the FX9 with a big overhead safety margin. Just need to get some heat shrink, a soldering iron and a VAIO plug for the camera. Plug of an old or cheap aftermarket VAIO power supply I guess and you are in business. Means those of us with a stack of V Loc batteries that we have been using on our FS7's can continue to use the same power source we already have. These 19 volt DC/DC converters are available for around $20.00 of eBay. I have used these on OB's on other equipment, component to SDI converters that required 19 volt. They are pretty bullet proof. ebay.to/2wjBFiB

Great review! Not sure I can prise my trusted F5 off my shoulder yet - the lack of HD luts and the ludicrous power supply leave me cold!

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Steve... hope you're well. I did forget to mention the viewfinder assist (plain 709 LUT) is always available in HD and S&Q too... but the power supply is indeed a pain. I hope to do a review of the solutions soon. Trouble is... that picture quality.... I forgive it everything else !!! Take care.

@ChookFowler23

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot Hi, I read somewhere that you need to choose the LUT called "original" to give you the Cinetone LUT. I haven't investigated this personally, maybe someone can confirm this. It also may have been for 4K only, seems crazy you can't use a monitor LUT in HD. Also can you put a link to the Shape Button you mentioned in the beginning. Great video!!

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@ChookFowler23 Hi Richard, The 'Original' you refer to is actually the gamma setting in the custom paint menu... as in Standard, Hypergamma, SLog3 or Original. In 'Original' ... Cinetone is the only option. what I need is a Cinetone LUT we can give to clients and editors so they start in the right place! I believe the Shape extension is this one: www.shapewlb.com/sony-fs7-remote-extension-handle/. There's some confusion because they also make one for the FS7M2 which doesn't work on the FX9. Good news is... it looks like a dedicated FX9 version is also coming (which is the same as mine but black)... www.shapewlb.com/sony-fx9-remote-extension-kit/. Hope that helps.

Will this camera ever record 6k internally? Can XQD media record 6k?

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Sony say it'll never do 6K internally, and to be fair, the present XAVC spec only goes up to 4K. That's not to say the camera isn't capable of 6K... we know it is. I keep hearing rumours that 6K might be being considered as one of the RAW output options... but that might be getting uncomfortably close to what they charge a lot of money for in the Venice!

@vicious12394

2 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot And this right here is why I'll be buying a C500 mark ii

Compared the footage you have included in your S1H review, I don't really see much advantage when it comes to dynamic range. I've compared the footage you taken about the old church tower and the garden. Beside s the FX9 autofocus capabilities, I can see only drawbacks with the FX9.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

It's difficult to compare the S1H and FX9... they are so different. As well as the superb autofocus, the variable ND makes a huge difference. You could definitely build up the S1H into a lovely shoulder mounted cine style camera... It would be great value, but would it be as easy to use? I don't yet have the proper light boxes to do a definitive test for dynamic range between cameras... but the point to note here is that I was using the FX9 in original Cinetone mode... and even in SLog3 I left the exposure set where it was. If you were really out to obtain the best dynamic range, you'd expose to protect the highlights and give yourself more in the shadows. From when I try to properly grade the SLog3 'Clock Tower' shot, it looks to me that there's significantly more dynamic range on the FX9... I mean a lot more! That sensor is the best Sony have made for a long time...

@zsoltcselenyi622

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot Your answer is totally legit, I understand. I just tried to figure out from the source I have ;) Here is the comparison image: www.imagebam.com/image/30fd3b1330081386 For me the S1H is over exposed a bit more, the shadows seems have more details. Sure the position of the sun is not the same. On the other hand, it would be also great to share the original footage on a google drive or something or have an alternative link on Vimeo, for better quality ;)

Special 😊😊

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I could be wrong, but it seems to me your giving up a lot. Some things you would like to have and some things you'd just like to have back. Great video.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I can't think of anything I miss that much? I just wanted to make others aware of what's missing right now. Some of it will come back with firmware updates I'm sure... and something I failed to mention was the Viewfinder Assist. This is a simple 709 LUT which works in the viewfinder at all times... even with S&Q. At the moment... the plusses far outweigh the minus !!!

🤣🤣 "the creative space"

Nice ... Sony has come along way since the EX3.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

They certainly have Dean... I think the picture quality they achieved with the Venice was a major turning point in realising what's really important to customers. Maybe, what we're seeing now, is the trickle down effect!

@DeanHarringtonimages

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot That would in keeping with recent history!

Sony will be introducing 8K given the Olympics are this summer. This will include an 8K block for Venice, at least that is my thought.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting thought... the real test will be to see how many movies switch to 8K production? I'm convinced that the Olympics is just a technical exercise pushed by TV manufacturers!

@PlanetFrosty

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, but it potentially has value in interactive ATSC3 interactive broadcast which will be tested at the Olympics. We may be utilizing our fiber network to bring 8K to several countries using our new protocols/capacity expansion.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@PlanetFrosty Is the IP network ready for the massive data that 8K (and high frame rates) will bring? Exciting times!

Sony should sit down with you before they make a camera. Thank you for this video.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

I think I've possibly upset them a bit for that? 😂 (Thanks for the comment)

It's a shame it cannot do proper 24p, but Netflix approved it for 23.98 and that's alright to me. Not that I'll ever need autofocus but it's nice to have.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

That's true... and it's an easy convert if you need to. Also. I've now discovered you can just change the metadata in the header so the NLE interprets it as 24P! The autofocus is amazing.... I find I'm using it on talking heads (people only mode) simply because it follows better than I can... especially

@makatron

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot what a time to be alive mate

@K1LL4Cam

4 жыл бұрын

Easy to convert, not a deal breaker at all.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@K1LL4Cam That's true... and I've now discovered there's a way of simply changing the metadata so 23.98p plays as 24p in the NLE !!!

Beautiful camera, but that daddy is a Lot more beautiful hehe

This is exactly the video I was looking for before pulling the trigger. Couldn't sort how many of my fs7 accessories would fit on the fx9. The small bit about the eyepiece on a non rotating rod is big, that was the biggest pain on the fs7 to constantly fight, and glad my shape extension handle will work too.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Brett, thanks for the comment... only thing I should point out, there are a couple of different versions on the shape extension handle for either the FS7 or FS7M2. (and I think they are going to do a third in black for the FX9)... thing is... I think that it's only the FS7 one that works with the FX9. I've just looked at the box and it says FS7RH (right hand?). I was told that the FS7M2 version won't fit.... or I may have that the other way around !!! Sorry I can't be more help... the dealer sorted mine. 👍

@brettramone

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot that's all good to know. I have the first version, so hopefully your first inclination is correct. Appreciate you taking the time to respond!

@willlodge5386

4 жыл бұрын

Alas, I think its the FSMK2 version that you need. I've literally just tried to attach my FS7 shape handle and it doesn't interface with the sliding arm properly. Bugger. Time to put all those tiny screws back in! Great vid as always Paul, thanks.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@willlodge5386 Thanks Will... Strange, the box mine came in definitely says FS7RH but maybe I was given the wrong box? That'll annoy Brett !!! Sorry.

Sunny, are you listening?! A7siii vs fx9 video next?

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

They might not want that comparison!... what is the A7Siii looks better? I'm still struggling to work out why the little camera can have RAW output over HDMI... but apparently, the £10k big one needs a £2,500 box to make it work ???

@jalexanderevans

3 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot maybe a more interesting comparison would be the fs700 vs the a7siii? The seem pretty close what with the 240 fps 1080p and all.

@extrashot

3 жыл бұрын

@@jalexanderevans Wow... the FS700... I haven't considered that camera for a while. Amazing slowmo and way ahead of it's time, although the form factor used to irritate me a little... particularly the viewfinder on top. 👍

@jalexanderevans

3 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot the view finder is rubbish haha

Cropping the lens does take away sharpness. Lenses designed for crop shouldn't be used on a full frame body. Even on the fs700 and the metabones speed booster you can see the difference between the fake full frame being way way way sharper than just an empty adapter and the same lens.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

I agree... but isn' it the other way around?... we're cropping a full frame lens with the S35 sized sensor. In other words, we're just using the centre of the FF lens which is why it's not as sharp. In the case of the FX9, when we do this, we're also losing colour resolution from not downsampling the image and colour info quite as much as 6K to 4K

Dearest Duke of Bournemouth .. has one used any PL s35 lenses on the new beast .. anything wider than the kit 28mm... or any other lenses aside the 28-135mm.. your thoughts sir ..tinkety tonk and down with the Nazis..

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Robin, I've tried to keep away from S35 so far? At the moment, all the other lenses I'm using are my trusty old Canon EF selection. I've bought the Metabones EF to E Mount T CINE Smart Adapter, and I've been surprised by how well it's working. All the shots it "For The Love of Wood" were basically on Canon EF lenses... 16-35mm f/2.8, 50mm f/1.2, 70-200mm f/2.8. I've got an 8-16mm super wide, but obviously have to drop down to S35 for that. They all seem to work very well. The big surprise was that with the adaptor left in 'advanced' mode... all the usual metadata from the lenses works correctly... so image stabilisation, focal length etc are all copied across. (The camera needs this data for the gyro stabilisation to work in Catalyst)... and best of all... even auto-focus !!! Maybe not as well as a smooth Sony lens, but useable at a pinch. The longer term plan is to swap all my Canon glass to Sony... hopefully the new Cine lens when it arrives, but also a couple of G-Master.

@robinprobyn1971

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot ok thanks .. yes I suppose the idea is to use the FF sensor ..

It would be trivial to get a Dtap->12-19 stepup converter (£5 on amazon)-> sony plug and make a Dtap to sony lead. While I think sony are dumb to do 19v the user base is also dumb not to see this super simple solution. I did the same but down stepping to my Gh4. Basically I make everything 12v compaatible or dont buy it - cameras lights follow focus monitors ps - love the couldnt find a craftsman gag

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Sam, You totally could do it that way... but aren't you worried about over discharging the 12 volt batteries? I'd like some warning or cut-off protection to prevent bricking the V-Locks. I'm also a little worried by any solution that abruptly cuts the power to the camera while you're recording. If the file isn't closed properly, it'll usually corrupt the last take, and sometimes the whole card. This can normally be restored in-camera, but it's not something I want to do regularly !!!

@sammorganmoore

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot Hi - discharge process should be the same as before just faster? Because its intuitive I dont think how I watch for discharge on my FS7 vlock - maybe I watch for it hitting 11.v (on the screen on the FS7) - Ive never had a conk out. - You would look not for 11.5 but maybe 18.2v or suclike (test first!) - you have do a few calcs on current as not all batts could deliver enough current, my hawkwoods can deliver aout 60w which is plenty (and also not enough for panels). ANother problem with this solution is accessing the Volts in port on the FS7. While I used to hang a Vlock from the back I changed to my Vlock being rod mount as it aids stripping the camera quickly for my gimbal or just a 'naked' setup.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Sam Morgan Moore Because the battery is connected through a step-up regulator, you don’t get a proper voltage reading on the camera... what you see is a slight drop below 19.5V just before the now flat battery can’t drive the step-up regulator any more...!!! At which point it’s already too late. I’m planning a video demonstrating the issue and looking at the alternatives. I’m now thinking of including the £5 Amazon adaptor as part of the tests?

Thank you for this sober (and sobering) review. Unfortunately, I can't forgive Sony for giving us a 'nicer' image while taking away so many features that I'd find useful in an upgrade. The 19.5v power is a horrid decision, as is the lack of IS. The icing on the cake is that I don't know of a single customer that will request this specific camera for a shoot. They'd more likely ask for a Red or even BlackMagic, especially if they're looking for RAW. Sorry Sony, you've lost me here.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Fair point... and you have to go with what your clients are going to want. The 19.5v is a total mess, I have no idea what they were thinking! The lack of IBIS doesn't worry me so much... many of my lenses have IS (which works fine), and I'm sure the plugins for geo-stabilisation in post, will be here soon? The RAW thing is a strange one... I can't work out why they couldn't just put an output on the camera for the soon to be announced Atomos recorder? RAW is actually 'less' processing to do... and if Nikon and Panasonic can do it on a compact mirrorless, then why can't Sony on a large body pro camera? A lot of people who don't like the Sony are looking closely at the Canon 500m2... does that interest you?

@AwesomeShotStudios

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot I switched from Canon when I went from HD to 4K, invested in Sony e-mount glass. So I'm tied into their eco-system for better or worse. But I'm also using Panasonic's M4/3 format, and if it weren't for the smaller sensors' difficulty in achieving a shallow DOF, I'd be much more interested with that format overall. 5-axis stabilization is becoming the norm in small form-factor cameras, as is high-speed recording without buffering. I know there are difficulties adding these to a larger sensor, but with a larger form-factor camera, I don't think that size was the issue for housing the additional electronics. It's just Sony protecting their other cameras...and second guessing what the customer wants. BTW, I love the subtle humor of your test shoot, adding all those injuries caught me by surprise...as did the 'reveal' ending.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@AwesomeShotStudios Cheers AwsomeShot.... I'm also still loving the Panasonic M4/3rd format as my 'B' cam for gimbal, jibs etc. I wonder if there'll be a GH6?... and if so, what could it offer to make me want to spend more money?

@AwesomeShotStudios

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot Probably incremental improvements to the sensitivity, pixel density, IS, and focus. I'm not expecting huge changes from Panasonic. Similar to smartphone tech...but not making a great case for upgrading. Now, if they can give us global shutter, internal RAW and AI image enhancement, that would be compelling. I'd love to see a true HDR recording capability like Canon's Magic Lantern hack using multiple exposures within a video frame...if the motion interpolation issues could be resolved. That would massivly increase the 'apparent' dynamic range.

Are you Phillip Bloom's dad?

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

That's funny... someone else asked if I was his uncle... I don't know which is worse!!! 😂

@craigw.scribner6490

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot I thought Bob was his Uncle. (I know, another dumb Yankee joke. lol.) Thanks for the review--it was great and I laughed out loud at the carpenter's growing number of bloody bandages and band-aids (oh yeah, you guys call them "plasters," don't you?). All kidding aside, I'm a subscriber to your channel and really enjoy your videos. Thanks!

@deaniweenie

4 жыл бұрын

@@extrashot Ha ha, well at least no-one has said 'granddad'! :-)

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@deaniweenie I'm sure he did... when we worked together !!! 😂

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

@@craigw.scribner6490 Thanks Craig for the kind comments and the sub... it's really appreciated. For us... plasters are things you stick on cuts etc and bandages are things you wrap around for support. Steve's recovering well... apart from the head wound !!!

Sony have stated the FX9 will never shoot 6K

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Yes... but they said that about 4K on the F5 too... It may never shoot 6K, but that doesn't mean it's not capable! I think the main problem is what they charge Venice owners for the Full Frame 6K licence... this means they can't start adding it as 'standard' on a significantly cheaper model ???

autofocus is probably for weddings and fast run and guns.

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

I probably would have said the same a few months ago... but seriously, the AF on this camera is a game changer for professionals. Seeing it follow an interviewee, wide open on a long lens and full frame sensor, is amazing. So far, for me, it hasn't missed a beat !!! 👍

Beautiful camera but, probably $25K

@raeasley

4 жыл бұрын

$11,000

@mickcarson8504

4 жыл бұрын

@@raeasley That ain't bad, considering the quality. And it's a Sony. 🙂👍

@iNerdier

4 жыл бұрын

Compare it to an Alexa and it’s a bargain.

Typical carpenters hands, covered in bandages and old plasters. How long before he loses a finger 😄

Love your videos as always but this camera is ... meh. I still havent recovered from the menus of the F5. Soooo slow and poorly designed and uncustomizable. Yet the devision that made the A7S and so on had highly customizable quickmenus etc.

@willlodge5386

4 жыл бұрын

So this camera is "meh" because the menus on the F5 were slow and clunky?

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Colourberry, very kind. Coming from the F5... I'm now making good use of the top 'User' menu on the FX9... got it setup how I like it and finding it very usable!

@armandoriviere8997

4 жыл бұрын

The menus in the F5-55 are archaic compared to these new Sony cameras. The delay from when you scroll, the weird way you need to dig into menus for things like audio adjustments. The user menu solves most speed issues. I wish you could map S35 mode to a button, but hopefully that will come with a firmware update.

I dont like that fat tank he is driving, sorry. All that bulged up shape, totally unnecessary. Compared to earlier vans, the 80 had better designs, e.g. 1980-90s Toyota, Mazda, Mitsubishi, etc., with straight windows, easy to drive and park, less blind spots, no fat/bulged front and a joy to have. How do mechanics service or work on the engines these days?

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

Let you into a secret... I don't like it either! 😂

I abonded sony 30 years ago. They are snakes and never give you what you pay for. They hold things back and charge you but never get a good camera. I went for Panasonic SH

@extrashot

4 жыл бұрын

They definitely hold too much back for marketing reasons... as they have with the FX9... but I think it's a little harsh to say you never get a good camera? In it's day, the FS7 was amazing value for the quality it produced. Okay it had problems but if anything, it was too cheap!