Sony FX3 Review - 8 Months Later
I flipped back and forth on which camera to get to extend my kit. The fx3 produces great images in line with it’s big bothers, and it’s nearly identical to the A7sii except for the body. I’ve had this camera for about 8 months now, and have really put it through it’s paces learning how to get the best images from it, and these are the things as a canon shooter I love and hate about the sony Fx3.
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I hate how much I love it 😬
I'm not a pro yet but seeing as Sony designed this to be a video camera, it should probably be reviewed as such. And I totally agree, gotta use the right tools for the job. I never liked going the hybrid route, trying to do it all with one camera so I stayed away from the Sony A1. I completely skipped over mid-range cameras, put away my old Canon S90 point 'n shoot, and dove completely into pro gear. I watched endless amounts of Canon and Sony video reviews and I am still happy with my FX3. This camera has seriously opened doors of opportunity for me. Everyone loves the videos it takes and they are blown away by its low-light capabilities. Great video sir.
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, there isn't a perfect hybrid camera, that satisfies both photo and video shooters. The R5 may be the closest perhaps. Thanks for watching and the comment Andy!
Dude, I'm looking into getting an FX3 and this video was still super helpful. 🔥
@RafaelLudwig
10 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you Patrick - It's a great camera!
Fantastic review Rafael 👊
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason!
That was just awesome, Rafael. Thanks so much for sharing your insights with the FX3.
This cam and FX30 changed my filming style! The 4K-120/60 cover all the ground I need to produce dynamic images. If they ever add a global shutter to these cameras…oh my goodness 😳🤯🙌🏽😎
@RafaelLudwig
10 ай бұрын
The fx3 can truly capture some stunning images, watch the BTS of "The Creator" and they shots good portions on the FX3. Again, Thanks for watching and the comment!
Good to hear your views. Thanks very much.
C70 user here. I just got the FX30. Thinking of switching to FX3 only to be able to use 20-70mm lens. The FX30 is an impressive piece of gear. Some annoyances - 2 channel proxy only? Why oh why? I’m not 100% sold on color science. The C70 looks better in more situations, Sony tends to look good in some scenarios and not so good in others. But I need to have more time with it. One tip. I got Lyre mounts and unscrewed the Sony mic Mount, screwed on the Rycote Lyre mounts with the same screws. So easy, isolates better, is more durable, is more flexible. I highly recommend.
@iamvelour
Жыл бұрын
How are you enjoying the fx30 now? I have a C70 and R3 and I’m thinking about switching to Sony and getting a fx3. It’s a really tough decision.
I own an Fx3 and understand most of your hates except for the photo ease button & evf issue the reason being this camera was not intended to be a hybrid, it was marketed as a compact cinema line camera. Sony has tons of hybrids available with that in mind. otherwise good analysts and video
@RafaelLudwig
8 ай бұрын
I agree (now) I absolutely love this camera the moment I changed my mindset to only video. It is my go to. Thanks for watching and the comment!
@napalmdom
8 ай бұрын
welcome love ya work
The high temperature option is there since the first firmware, the camera heated probably because it was on standard
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that is what was annoying, firmware 1.0 had it set to standard by default, for v.2.0 it is now set to High. I learned the hard way. Thanks for watching and the comment Pedro!
Great Video! I'm currently using the GH5 and looking to upgrade to a new full-frame camera. I'm torn between the S5iix and the FX3. Do you think the extra cost for the FX3 is worth it? I’ve watched several footage videos from both cameras on KZread, especially in the music video genre, and I find Sony’s look much more modern and cinematic. And you look like Usky.
@RafaelLudwig
3 ай бұрын
I love the FX3 it is so much better then when I made this video, firmware updates fixed lots of my gripes with the software. You can't go wrong with either of the cameras - if you like taking photos and videos a lot - go with the S5iix - the FX3 is a cine camera with a beautiful image more than a photo camera, I haven't taken a single photo with the Sony - I use my canon cameras for photos. I had to look up who Usky is, and yeah I kinda do! He has more muscles. ;) Thanks for watching and the question!
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I have a metabones speed booster adaptor & external recorder, and focus primarily on manual video. The over-heating can be tricky, but I have learned to be patient using it optimally. Apart from that, it's only the lack of ND filters that bother me. Good review
Great review Rafael! Valid complaints for sure. Such a powerful tiny camera overall though. Thanks for your thoughts!
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
Great video camera, As a hybrid camera, the fx3 ain't it (at least for me)
@elix_productions
Жыл бұрын
Well, I have the Sony FX3 and it’s a cinema camera. So I wouldn’t expect it to have all the capabilities of the R5 in the photo department. That’s not what it’s made for. That’s like expecting the FX9, FX6 to take photos as well. Which that’s not what they’re made for! It’s made to film! Not photography. But the Focus breathing is on point. Hopefully they’ll fix this in an future firmware update.
love this review! Thanks!
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
Have the same sentiments with my FX3 but....I STILL LOVE IT! Pair it up with the Sony a7IV as the BCam...awesome!
Hi Rafael... if you would have to choose between keeping C70 and R5C or selling them and taking FX3 + FX30 would you change (no money on the table)? I am a bit sick of Canon and the trade offs I have to face everyday and also I was deluded by Canon service (for repairs)... Your opinion really does matter to me. Thanks!
Thanks for the comment on the auto-focus "breathing" by the way! I didn't know there was a term for the issue and I thought I was just an idiot who didn't know the right settings. Nice to know I am somewhat sane...LOL, very frustrating!
Great review! I love that camera.
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
Great camera for sure, but not the best hybrid camera for sure! (at least for me)
Agree. Much to like with the FX3. Only had mine a short time and trying to understand what settings are best for me as a newbie to video shooting. V3 firmware brings a heap of upgrades incl. focus breathing compensation on GM glass. So I'm sure you will be loving that now. I guess mixing systems is always going to bring another layer of complexity. I'm lucky now just working with Somy cameras and lenses. Time moves on and solutions to yesterday's problems emerge. You will have probably found on eBay and elsewhere the low cost split-rubber rings that shim out the mike holder on XLR top handle permitting use of high quality mikes, circa 19-20mm diameter, like Sennheiser's MKE 600 or MKH 416. No plug-in electronic viewfinder is a disappointment, but when I want to dhoot stills then I generally pack my a7iv which also does pretty good v video, even if not quite matching the FX3's low light and high frame rate capability.
@RafaelLudwig
11 ай бұрын
So many good updates since this video. Really like the camera and the footage I am able to get with it. For photos I still prefer using my canons just like the feel of it overall. Thanks for watching and the comment Ricky!
Great points 👍🏽
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and the comment Arianna!
That over heating issue and flimsy lcd screen could be a deal breaker for some.
Have they added focus breathing support for fx3 yet ??
@RafaelLudwig
6 ай бұрын
Yes they did and it’s great! Thanks for watching and the comment!
FX3 for video sounds like a great option . Hope they send a firmware update for the focus breathing
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed! That would be so helpful! Thanks for watching and the comment!
@maximumguitarage
Жыл бұрын
@@RafaelLudwig absolutely! Video was top notch. Cheers !
@techsuvara
Жыл бұрын
I doubt it. It’s not part of Sony’s strategy. I use the A7siii and there’s been little to no support. The Nikon Z9 however and other Nikon cameras have seen incredible support.
@maximumguitarage
Жыл бұрын
@@techsuvara I see 🙈 so if you want the goods it's now baked into our new cameras so go buy em ...heck of a sales strategy
@techsuvara
Жыл бұрын
@@maximumguitarage pretty much. As a software developer, it's hard to say how much of it they can or cannot change. In principle, if a camera is designed on a generic microprocessor, then it mostly should completely be able to update to support the new features. But! There may be certain issues preventing this, in particular on how the PCB and chips are put together to work. Looking at the fact that the FX3 had a major update of firmware, then I would lean towards the fact they just want you to buy new cameras, a sales strategy, not a technical limitation.
Is it worth to update it now? It was some update issues recently,reason why i haven’t did the update just yet
Thanks for the review, very on point. I have been a C200 user for a while now and I am considering selling it to get an FX3. Do you think the image quality and colors are on par with a C200 and have you shot RAW with the FX3 yet? Can they be matched well?
focus breathing comes from the lens and not from camera, you have to use cine lenses, i mean real cine lenses to get rid of it
The focus breathing is a real issue for me also and I’m using Sony glass. I hope that they put breathing compensation on the next update.
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
It really is annoying! Thanks for watching and the comment Parker!
@jameswhitaker4357
Жыл бұрын
No matter what aperture you use?
Great review! Thanks for sharing the cons as well. That helps me with my challenge to stick with canon :D
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
As a hybrid camera, the fx3 ain't it (at least for me). Still a canon fanboy.
@AivarsMeijers
Жыл бұрын
@@RafaelLudwig if canon R6 don’t have that crazy woobling, I would need nothing more. I would love to have 4K for vertical crop from horizontal video. 1080p after cropping looks horibly bad :(
Thank you, you answered all of my questions about this camera. Specifications are one thing, but real life is another story. I am a Canon user and I was just tempted by this small yet powerful camera...Anyway the breathing is really bad. And I am starting to think that every camera with IBIS will have such a week point... I have a feeling that C70 might win it...
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
It's hard to recommend Canon these days, I am still a fanboy but it's unclear where canon will go with future cameras. The Fx3 ticks many boxes but not all, and still on the fence if I should slowly transition to Sony. Still hopefully Canon will come through. Have to be patient. Thanks for watching and the comment Matej!
@fotimtocimziju
Жыл бұрын
@@RafaelLudwig after spending whole weekend by looking at cine line cameras (small cameras) I must that you are absolutely right… i am tempted to switch. As I am lost with lenses on c70 - adapter, no adapter, rf lenses with no wide lens, speedbooster or no? But then I will have to buy ef lenses again - which I sold. Thats painfull… i was hired for next week to shoot with fx3 so at lesst I could test it… thank you again.
@StealthxSorr
Жыл бұрын
I believe the FX3 had a firmware update to compensate for the focus breathing
what lens are you using for the b roll in the intro of this video? looked really nice
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
It's the RF 35mm 1.8 Macro lens - so tiny so good! Made a review about it. kzread.info/dash/bejne/a3io1shvh6-we84.html Thanks for watching and the comment!
Sony A7iv vs. FX 3 vs. FX 30, which one should | buy for outdoor KZread videos and also cinematic shots in some time at night?
I did not know about the focus breathing. I am working with a Sony a 73 and have used many other cameras, I am constantly switching between manual and auto focus. There is a real art in knowing when to use which.
They sell inserts for the mic on eBay and Amazon..
I have a LOVE/HATE with all my cameras. That's 4 so far. It's funny cause the camera that has the least amount of usefulness I'll probably buy a second of. Weird how it all works.
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
There is no perfect single hybrid camera, that is why we end up with 4 cameras in our kits! Thanks Brandon!
@BrandonTalbot
Жыл бұрын
@@RafaelLudwig hahaha very true.
To be honest, the focus breathing happens mostly with g master lenses. My 35g annoys me. I have the tamron trifecta and I barely have any focus breathing
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
I will have to check out more Tamron lenses. Thanks for the tip!
Regarding EVF, on the low-end Kamerar has one for about $30 and on the higher end, Zacuto has one for about $350. True they're compromises but they'll get you there. Interesting that the new FX30 has focus breathing compensation whereas the FX3 doesn't. The FX30 also has the color Focus Map feature whereas the FX3 doesn't. If they don't come with a firmware update I can't help but think there's going to be an FX3mkII next spring (by NAB?). The focus breathing solution has me seriously looking at the FX30 as APS-C (super35) is still very much an acceptable "film" standard. Viewers will find super35 depth of field OK. On the other hand, focus breathing on the FX3 detracts from the image if you're changing focus. I'd hate to buy a camera with that issue and may be replaced with a newer version. Also not having Shutter Angle is a bother when changing frame rates. Regarding Canon lenses, if they're EF won't the MC11 get you there. In fact some even recommend the Sigma 28-70 EF with MC11 over E mount because the EF version is stabilized and retains that with the MC11 whereas the E mount is not.
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
Definitely looking into the fx30! Was considering the A7c but the 30 makes way more sense for me. Thanks for watching and the comment!
Great review! Also, its crazy how much you look like the full adult version of Martin Garrix haha respectfully of course.
Hey man, I'm a c200 shooter and like you looking for a good B cam, FX3 high on the list. Just on your canon glass 'not performing well' on the FX3, do you mean in terms of using an adapter and trying to get autofocus etc, or do they just simply not work? Issues with image quality? I'm always on manual focus anyway so that wouldn't be an issue for me, any advice would be awesome cheers mate
I double up rubber spacers for my sennheiser mic. They’re invisible inside the mic holder.
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
I've tried a few things, will have to try this as well. Thanks for watching and the comment Christian!
My FX3 not getting the focus breathing compensation upgrade is a complete letdown from Sony. And it is a plain stupid brand strategy as it stops me buying G Master lenses. In fact, this is such a letdown that I am currently looking into divesting entirely from the system. Especially since Panasonic now has finally moved to phase detect AF - the only weakness their cameras had.
The AF is a problem...I've never had any camera focus breathes so much. I hope there's an update to fix it.
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I hope so too. Thanks for watching and the comment Matt!
You’ll be happy to know the Fx3 and the a7S3 are both getting breathing compensation. I will never buy a camera without an EVF. People keep saying we don’t need one, we don’t need one… Because they’re stupid. Have you ever seen a real cinematographer or on a major movie not using an EVF? The answer is pretty much no!
I mean for the lense issue couldn’t u just use Meta Bones getting the converter from E mount to canon
@RafaelLudwig
7 ай бұрын
I have the metabones, it’s hit or miss if it captures the focus or focuses at all. So not reliable for me with EF lenses, and there is no converter for RF lenses. Thanks for watching and the comment!
so can u suggest best canon camera with the same specifications of fx3?
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
I would say the R5C is the best for the comparison with the FX3. But the new R6 mk2 seems like a solid little camera for half the price! Thanks for watching and the Comment Braj!
Does focus breathing still available after firmware update 2.0/3.0 ?
What kind of Camera and Len have you taken on this video?
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
I shot this video on the C200, it's what I used for most of the videos on this channel. Thanks for watching and the comment Pol!
@polphearum
Жыл бұрын
@@RafaelLudwig how about the len/s?
@polphearum
Жыл бұрын
@@RafaelLudwig SJCAM C200?
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
@@polphearum 16-35mm 2.8 canon lens. I believe I had it 20mm,
@polphearum
Жыл бұрын
@@RafaelLudwig but I still not sure about the camera, is it SJCAM C200?
Oh no that sucks about the overheating. They even included an entire FAN into the camera body to deal with that! 😒
Thanks for the cons, I’m getting the FX30 😂…. Saving some money and getting other stuff as well, the FX-3 was my first plan.
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
If the image quality is the same as the fx3, the fx30 a banger of a deal!! Good to see you Mac!
@HomesickMac
Жыл бұрын
@@RafaelLudwig I've now seen sh.. load of videos about the FX30 and if we understand the differences between the real deal and the new kid, it's going to give the best results with what we've got (when I buy it 🙂). Meaning not filming in extreme low light, being aware of the cropping and using it as an advantage with the right lens, getting inspired to also take advantage of focus breathing compensation, oh well, It's not just about it being cheaper, it's more than sufficient for what I'll need it for. The FX-3 has always felt like buying into the higher league, hence not really needing it all..
@rizzo-films
Жыл бұрын
Something that gives the FX30 extra points over the FX3 or even a7sIII is that you can use APS-C lenses. On the two more expensive cameras, the sensor resolution is too low for digital zoom to be useful, so you're stuck with only full frame lenses. But on the FX30 you'll get a sharp image whether you're using APS-C or full frame lenses.
@MODESTYXO205
Жыл бұрын
What camera would you choose, the Sony fx3 or the canon r6 mark 2? For documentary/vlog content, I also take pictures occasionally. Great Content. My main focus is video
You are pretty picky. Focus breathing is a bonus. It’s not expected in any camera. Changing the power off setting to high is a hate? It’s a setting that you touch one time and never think about it again…
You must have a bad copy or update issue. I have never ever had overheat or focus breathing with my copy
Did you consider a bm 6k or 6k pro?
The lack of EVF is such a bummer!😂
Sony 35mm 1.8 has no focus breathing. It's a great versatile lens.
This or the a7rV?
u have noise in your footage aabove the shelf
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
I was shooting on the C200 for this review, which doesn't perform too well in the shadows as well as the Fx3. Thanks for watching and the comment Vishant!
Also it seems like Sony haven't learned much from making A7S cameras. Other than make cinema camera to compete with black magic
My question is how the fuck do y'all aford this type of gear
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
We get clients to pay for the gear. But that is a good question to unpack. Going to make a video on my second channel where I focus on Creator Finances. Thanks for the suggestion and thanks for watching!
@lucatkinson
Жыл бұрын
I work as a professional cameraman. When we work we charge for our kit on top of our rate hence we own lots of expensive kit that production pays for and makes me money. Before I owned loads of kit I’d hire it and anything i dont own now hire and mark up the price. I also hire my kit to other camera people.
@michaelbattista1334
Жыл бұрын
Yeah if you do this for a living then you have to have the tools for the trade. Like I’m a musician so I have 8 guitars, 1 bass, 2 Saxophones, all kinds of gear for a recording studio etc but still photography and videography / film equipment is much more expensive than music equipment. I’m watching reviews to see what kind of camera I should buy to do music videos or promo videos and I’ve never been more confused.
You shoot the B-roll with a iphone didn't you.
@RafaelLudwig
11 ай бұрын
Canon R actually, there may be a shot or 2 from the iPhone, can't remember exactly. Thanks for watching and the comment Kemar!
Yeah the screen isn’t great. You need a monitor to shoot with confidence.
Some of your complaints are nonsense, because FX3 is a cinema camera.
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
The fx3 is an A7Siii in a cine centric body. Putting Cine in the name does not make it a cinema camera. It has the A7Sii menu, sensor, all other internals. Does that Make the A7Sii a cine camera as well? What other actual Cine camera has a dedicated photo mode? 🤔. FX3 is a hybrid camera in a video focused body. That is all.
@dimitrimoonlight
Жыл бұрын
@@RafaelLudwig your point is only canon R5C which is true hybrid camera. Some cinema camera have basic still photo capability so FX3 is. Although FX3 is pretty different from A7Siii.
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
@@dimitrimoonlight R5C is the closest thing to a true hybrid. Large sensor for photos, Cine centric menu. - It's not a perfect camera. I chose the Fx3 because it performed better in video mode. It's a great camera. But the annoyances are just that. Annoying. The R5C wobble is the biggest reason I don't want it, it would make too much footage unusable Professionally. Also how is the Fx3 different from the A7Siii besides the body?
@dimitrimoonlight
Жыл бұрын
@@RafaelLudwig A7siii has 27.45% more megapixels, only shoot up to UHD. It has 132 more focus points. 2160 x 120fps vs 2160 x 60fps. Has a tilting viewfinder. It Has pixel shift shot.
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
@@dimitrimoonlight You do realize these differences are between the Photo and video modes of both cameras. They have the exact same35 mm full frame (35.6 × 23.8 mm), Exmor R CMOS sensor, and use the same focal points in video and photo modes respectively. They shoot the same formats, At the same frame rates. They both have tilting view finders. Check the Sony website to see for yourself. They are the same internal cameras.
Bro, we know all this. Creative much?
@RafaelLudwig
Жыл бұрын
says the one with an 8 in cre8tive. That's original.
bro its not a hybrid cam its a CINEMA CAM lol stick with canon bud
@RafaelLudwig
9 ай бұрын
name another "cinema cam" that takes photos. I'll wait.
@hxllywxxd22
9 ай бұрын
@@RafaelLudwig BMPCC 6k, URSA Mini Pro 12k, Canon EOS C300 Mark III lol
@RafaelLudwig
9 ай бұрын
@@hxllywxxd22 Ha, ok, you win, thanks for watching. *grabs my C300 to use at the next photo shoot*