I had this exact model a few years ago. I picked it up from a local garage sale for $10, so you know I really can't complain. I totally agree with you, this unit was PAINFULLY slow. I even made sure that it had the latest firmware update and that did not help at all. About the only positive thing I could say about this unit is that it would play all my Blu-Ray's and DVD's. (Eventually)

It's not all that slow considering it's only second gen and how slow all HD DVD models were at the time. This is basically a BDP-S1, Sony's debut BD player, "slimmed" into smaller case. The Silicon Image chip is HDMI signal intake, handles HDCP before sending video along to the Sigma chip.

@techfury90

6 жыл бұрын

sehnzeleid that would explain the goop on the chip, then. It's likely over the (unencrypted) input from the Sigma chip.

@ruikazane5123

6 жыл бұрын

yeah...bus speed are still out there. And with the processing power, they need more ram to compensate for the processing losses.

I think that the drive is so slow it has to buffer a huge amount of the movie to it's memory. That doesn't explain the boot up -time though. It can simply be because of java...

@techfury90

6 жыл бұрын

Benjami Lindqvist It's Java. I bought one when they were new and the early Blu-ray Discs were very bare on Java and menus and they loaded pretty fast. The power-on time was always slow, though. I think it was around 2008 that discs started getting more complex and brought it to a grinding halt.

@ruikazane5123

6 жыл бұрын

Remember how long it takes to brew coffee?

@CotyRiddle

6 жыл бұрын

that thing is slow not because of java it's self but mostly to do with the sigma DSP/Secure Processor.

I got one of these just a month ago for $40. The downsides are how damn slow it is and also it's enormous, but I guess that's because its a super early player. The plus side is it has an absolute slew of features and the picture quality is amazing.

I am glad that this isn't just a matter of my specific S300, not 301, being old or damaged or anything. I got a region B one fairly recently, and it is just as slow as this. I don't know very much about electronics, so first of all, could the drive be removed and installed in my PC, and would that mean its speed would be dictated by my PC, or is the drive hardware itself just that slow?

I have a Magnavox Blu Ray player that has a similar problem. It takes about 20 seconds to boot up, and when I put in a DVD, it only takes maybe 9 seconds to load, but when it loads up a Blu Ray, it takes almost 50 seconds

I would love to experiment with this player... can you use the BD drive in a PC? what happens if you put in a different BD/DVD/CD Drive? what happens if you put in a harddrive?

I found a Philips BDP-7200 Blu-ray player at a ditto's Saturday for $35. I know I have a Sony BDP S5500 ( 2015 model ), but I wanted to see what 2008 brought us in Blu-ray. it's as big or close to the one in this video and has a cooling fan. it's in fantastic shape and has No dust in it. also what I found interesting is they stored the firmware on a 256 MB Panasonic SD card that was on a reader inside the unit that can't be accessed unless you open up the unit. when it comes to loading times, I put in a copy of Dispicable Me 2 in it. The Philips unit took 1:35.72 and the Sony unit only took 0:31.83 to load the disc. Also the philips unit had 512 MB of Samsung DDR2-800 RAM, which I thought was pretty cool.

Has a date code on the back "7B" which means it was made between April-June 2007, the number is the last digit of the year and the letter (A-D) states the quarter of the year. lovely looking machine though. I have a Panasonic smart blu ray that blows the USB wifi dongles. Now saving for a 4K machine though, preferably not assembled in china. Love your videos, they are informative. Just subscribed 🤘🏻

I have had this since it was new and loved it for movies back then but bought newer ones a few years later for movies and put it in my closet. Took it out last week and now use it as a cd player and it sounds great for that and only takes a few seconds for that purpose.

Love your Vids.

Your Blu-ray player is 10 years old now

I love how they lined the caps up.

That's a great player! I have upgraded the software and it has improved. I love the simple and clean design and I love the analogue 5.1 output that connects to my stand alone 5.1 system, because I don't have an expensive receiver. Of course it could be better, but it still does its job and no other player cuts it for me because the lack of analogue audio output.

@databits

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comments!

I seem to recall having a unit similar to this around 2007 or so. when Blu Ray just came out. it was the first HDMI Device we owned, we were still using component cables to hook stuff up to a CRT haha. I wonder what we did with it, I know we still have it somewhere, not like it matters though since my Xbox one plays blu ray :P

Is that Tron Legacy Bluray from the 5disc special edition that included the original Tron on Bluray and Legacy on 3D Bluray as well?

I have a Sony blue ray player that's made in Japan. BDP-S550. Bought it is '07 or '08 and it was around $500. At that time that was cheap. It's slow as Christmas to load some titles, but it does an outstanding job up converting dvds.

I ahve one, ITS SLOWWWWWWWW!!!! you can turn it on with the eject button, that way you can hear when its ready (saves about a minute waiting to press a 2nd button. Then you press the play button to close it, gets ready to go (3 minutes to load the menu, another minute to play - 5 minutes from on to play But it does a really good job at playing.

omg this (or a very similar one) was my first Blu Ray player I got used for like $75 back in early 2008. Yeah, you could make popcorn while it loaded.

Just thrifted the BDP - S300 and yeah it's a total pain lmao. Coincidentally I timed the read speed myself a few days ago. Once the player displayed "loading" , I got around 90 seconds before the logos finally arrived.

lol I had one the early blu ray players. I remember that thing being super slow. Still loved it.

Firmware updates might help with the speed.

Wow, that is amazing and surprising for a Sony!

look at the Date code 7B. This means the unit was made in the second quarter of 2007.

It should be noted this player is from 2007 as mentioned so the drive speed via IDE was horribly slow. They had SATA by this point also

I had that player and ended up selling it for $5 at a garage sale since it was so slow. Try playing Scott Pilgrim on it, it most likely won't even get to the menu because it wants an update of sorts. Bought a PS3 instead and never looked back.

Yesss,I bought this player brand new in 2008... for ~350$, played 2 bluray and 5 dvds on it in the last 9 years. Definitly the most money I spent on a barely used av-component. It was also quite picky when playing dvd-r's. I was convinced it also could play SA-cd's. Nice to be reminiscing this wallet-wound :) Audio quality was great though. -->Edit: My model is the BDP-S300, guess European model no.?

its because of the Java

@databits

8 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@rollercoastermaniac2

7 жыл бұрын

my java blue ray player takes five seconds at most...

@vdochev

5 жыл бұрын

@@rollercoastermaniac2 I think it also depends on the processor. As you may have seen in the video, there's not a single SONY part inside, LOL! If memory serves, the BD drive is Pionneer. I could be wrong, though.

@RobertK1993

4 жыл бұрын

Java is better than HDi

@AleksandarGrozdanoski

3 жыл бұрын

I guess it makes no sense making the same comment. Okay, I was going to word it differently: it's java powered, what do you want 😁

I agree, no better Blu-ray player than the PS3.

@RobertK1993

4 жыл бұрын

PS4

@moow950

3 жыл бұрын

PS5

i love your vids.

@databits

8 жыл бұрын

+yupimbackk - I love my subscribers! :D

Nice video Brad, we don't see BluRays very often here, because they are expensive for what they offer, so DVD still the most popular film carrying media here

@databits

9 жыл бұрын

André Campana Merétika I am sorry to hear that Andre. Bluray has a very lovely quality to it.

I thought my '08 Samsung player was slow but damn, that's a whole new level! I don't even bother with Blu-Ray anymore, it's honestly just much less hassle to watch things in nearly any other way.

I remember my first bd player was slower than Christmas! then again I didn't mind because I was so fascinated with being introduced to hi definition!! I didn't mind it being slow as long as it played!

I found it's older Brother at a Thrift Store (BDP-S300) and bought it because I wanted a player that I can use a Remote Control with. I have a XBOne and PS4 as well, but I wanted to see how well it would work. It works, but like this Player in the video, it loads Blu-Rays pretty slowly (however DVDs and CDs play fine) and I tested it with my Blu-Ray copies of Inside Out and Tron Legacy and it took from the point I turned on the Player to the point of the start of the music and both took a little under 5 minutes to load :p UPDATE: I tested the boot time with the 6.20 Firmware Update and it took 47 seconds to get to the part where it asks for a disc

@AirknightTails

Жыл бұрын

UPDATE #2: This was a while ago. But I got rid of the Sony player a while back and switched to a Basic Samsung Player

2:29 My Panasonic UB420 (US) was made in Czechia

i happen to have a pioneer blu-ray player thats slow too. it takes a moment or 2 to turn on, takes a few moments to eject the tray and takes a few moments to read the disc and play the disc and such but once it does it plays fine. i did update the firmware on the pioneer but still its dog slow oh well it was free anyhow

I've owned three Sony BD Players. Never again.

A friend of mine had a that same Blu Ray player and yes, it is slow, sometimes it won't even read the discs or freeze. Brand new, and it was already slow.

I am amazed at how slow that player is. I have a Panasonic Blu-Ray player that actually loads pretty quickly, about 15 seconds, but on the downside, it is made in China instead of Japan, like they used to be. So the life of the player will not be very long!!!!

Firmware updates (done through burned DVDs on these older players) improve the loading times, or so I'm told. I have a BDP-S1, which is basically this but bigger and can't play CDs.

it‘s really hard to find an IDE blu-ray drive for desktop computer

@databits

9 жыл бұрын

christopherxu1993 Now you have a source for one!

My Cousin's Samsung BluRay Player tooks almost 20 seconds to boot up and display some image. Made in Vietnam in 2012.

My first Blu-ray player was this player! The design is nice but it’s very very very slow at loading and opening and closing!

To all you commenters here, saying Blu-Ray is gonna be like VCR's, and how any other way of playing media, is better than this, et cetera. Maybe you're right, especially when it comes to this particular model/generation of machines. But I'm here to tell you, I just bought a Blu-Ray player, with 3D, 4K, Wi-Fi, USB, and all that good stuff. Less than a year ago. (Panasonic) Finally moved on from DVD, But since my old DVD player (Pioneer) still works, I put it in my bedroom. And will swap it out for a Blu-Ray when it dies. (But it's already 10+ years, and still works just fine, so......#indestructible ? 😆) And I also got a brand new PS3 and a (new) PS2 slim, four years ago. And that's not only cos I'm poor, but also because I like physical media. So while that initial statement might be true for most people, you also gotta keep in mind the #notall factor........😆

Oppo still makes Blu-Ray players that have analog surround sound outputs

@RobertK1993

6 жыл бұрын

Jacob Marzynski Sony does digital and digital inputs are better than analog.

@InsaneGamersOfficial

6 жыл бұрын

> digital inputs are better than analog Except in the case of Cinavia copyright protection. Then analog is much better

@jacobmarzynski7719

6 жыл бұрын

I do know that digital outputs are better, but Blu-Ray players with analog 5.1 outputs are still not very rare

@vdochev

5 жыл бұрын

@@jacobmarzynski7719 This one also caries audio through HDMI and optical, so it does have digital output. It just has more options with analogue if you want to use it like me.

I don't remember ever waiting even nearly this long for any videocassette to play. Last I recall, even a U-Matic machine from the 70s would be dozens of times faster than this machine!

Apart from the lack of SCART (which is replaced here with HDMI), that thing looks to have about the same set of ports, and to be about the same size, as the chunky-ass (but cheap! ...for the time) DVD player I bought in 2002. Given that DVD was a good 4 years old by then, it shows how much tech has shrunk in general that a Blu-Ray player in the first 18 months of the format's existence isn't any larger.

Man, and I honestly thought PowerDVD14 (demo) + Laptop BD-RE drive were painfully slow!

I bought a blu-ray player 3 yrs ago and used it about 10 times. Looks like it will be like vhs soon

@mspenrice

6 жыл бұрын

I think I've played all of two BDs on mine, from the LoveFilm mail-back rental service (that went bust a few weeks after I signed up for a trial membership). Haven't even bothered with the two titles that were packed in.

@chrisburns7979

6 жыл бұрын

didnt go bust btw amazon chose to close it i used to work for them

@mspenrice

6 жыл бұрын

Weird. Was it not making money for them, or was it because they were launching their Netflix rival and realised they could just make a scad more cash by providing the bits over the net at almost the same price, instead of sending out physical versions with postage-paid return envelopes?

@chrisburns7979

6 жыл бұрын

3 things happened 1) Amazon all ready owned some shares in lovefilm for years they decided to buy the rest of company. 2) loveFilm already had lovefilm instant and that was growing so amazon re branded it as amazon instant video and added it to the prime service and 3) they stopped the game rental service and being honest that was the major money maker for the by post service the service was ended a year after that

@mspenrice

6 жыл бұрын

Hmm, dropping the game service was probably the actual dumb thing, but then game discs get even more abuse than DVDs, it was probably a piracy risk, and it wouldn't have easily competed with Steam and the like.

My primary player is a Sony BDP-S360 from 2009, yea its old, but it is nice and it works great! And it is much, much faster than that one!

I have that exact model,and yes it is slow...but worth the wait. I have a couple of the newer ones as well,this one is MUCH better made than any of the newer ones...which are all from China.I bought my Sony BDP-S301 NEW and paid over $300 for it. 48 seconds is not that long...just seems like it.

Think of it as foreplay

I got the same player for $10 from my local thrift, beautifully made, but un useable because of its slowness, a few weeks later the same thrift got a newer Sony BD player in that i picked up for again $10, this is a couple of generations up from that one and it is as fast as the PS3 or even faster, and its got built in WIFI, it took Sony a while but they got it right in the end.

@databits

9 жыл бұрын

Neil Robinson Glad to hear you found a faster one! I donated my slow one.

Interesting. I have an early make Toshiba HD DVD player; incredibly slow; turns out its a plain old Pentium 4 PC with custom firmware.

@databits

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, it was fun opening the hood on those machines.

I OWN this exact player. I bought it brand new in 2008. I paid $300 for it on Amazon. Just last year it died and I bought a Panasonic. I had no idea that it wasn't normal to wait that long for Blu-Ray.

@databits

8 жыл бұрын

+Greg Quick - sorry to hear it died, looks like you got your money's worth?

Thanks for sharing it, I will keep far away from it. To be complete, it would have been nice to see a quick player do exactly the same sequence, just to show the difference ;-) Maybe something for a next video?

@databits

9 жыл бұрын

vanuitdeauto Sounds like a great idea! Thanks for watching.

I'm from the Philippines and I think that's the same model that I saw which cost around Php 50,000 (over $ 1,000) many years back then. But you only got it for $ 30 (3:48).

@databits

9 жыл бұрын

bobskie321 I had a feeling that this player was originally an expensive model.

I have one of the earlier versions of these Sony Blu-ray players. I paid around $300.00 dollars for it, and it's painfully slow just like the one that you are showing.

@databits

9 жыл бұрын

Raymond Williams Wow $300, I'm so sorry. :D

Hi at least your blue ray works.

on my Philips player it takes that long too

Seem fast to me, my sharp bd-hp20s is way slower than this ... But i like using it good output and awesome DVD upscaling plus ten time less power consomption than my first gen 60gb ps3

hi to all out there i have this old player it has one ace thing the audio outputs are phono sockets 5.1 and i find it ace for playing back blueray audio. 5.1 on to my otari mx70 yes watching a film takes time. this cost tons of money. i payed £25 on ebay 100% working all the new blue-ray players are s--t .i may sound hard. by the way the new 100GB rw don't work very well i had one. save your money and use 25gb discs

You probably need to update the firmware

The front looks more violet or purple-ish than blue.

@databits

9 жыл бұрын

chadergeist Adjust your TV's color settings..haha

@chadergeist

9 жыл бұрын

I'm on my pc, not tv. :p Besides my color is fine. Hehe.

I got a pc blue ray drive I can make my own blue ray disks and DVDs and CD-R all in one drive

its slow because of java i bet

@RobertK1993

6 жыл бұрын

Core Dream Studios The Language is indeed hard to learn too.

Sony BDP-S301

The IDE drive will probably affect the speed. I didn't even know they made IDE blu-ray drives O_o

@AnonymousFreakYT

6 жыл бұрын

I doubt it - Even Blu-ray 16x speed is only 72 MBps, while the last generation of IDE (ATA/ATAPI-6) was 100 MBps. (Although many PC chipset makers added an unofficial 133 MBps speed later.) Heck, the IDE in my beige Power Macintosh G3 from 1997 is capable of 33 MBps speed, which is fast enough for a much more common 6x Blu-ray speed, which is still faster than UHD Blu-ray requires (only 16 MBps.) The speed of first-generation Blu-ray players is mostly in the seek time - which, just like first-generation DVD players, had issues because of the new technology that was resolved in later releases. Throughput wasn't a problem.

Its just giving you time to go in the kitchen and prepare some popcorn! LOL....Yea, this is pretty slow....amazing thing is, that was made in 2007 and by that time, the PlayStation 3 was already out.....its SO much quicker

Why is there even a fan in the first place? They can't possibly get THAT hot, can they?

@databits

9 жыл бұрын

***** Good question. The fan doesn't appear to be placed next to anything that would get hot.

I could load a movie faster on a Laserdisc player. It's even faster on a LaserDisc player to manually flip the disc! lol

BDP-S300 IS 2006 \ BDP-S301 IS 2007

LOL i picked up this for $20 and my only player

Java is slow ... Try to find firmware update , if there is one. Usualy its done with burning it on blank cd-dvd .. Ive done that 3x on my pioneer dvd DV 400V , got some new features , like fast start , so on. Here is the link esupport.sony.com/US/p/swu-download.pl?mdl=BDPS301&upd_id=7474&os_group_id=13 (Check it for correct model)

it must be faulty

It prob. needs it's software upgraded.

@databits

9 жыл бұрын

chadergeist Didn't help.

@chadergeist

9 жыл бұрын

Oh darn! I wonder what's wrong with it?

I got the bigger brother (BDP-S350) and its not slow like that xD got for like 6$ xD Has XMB menu that i like

No I think your used blu-ray player now has a weak laser you can try cleaning the lens inside the metal thing by the way I have a quite old Sony blu-ray player and I just hit a record! A full 6minutes to load how to train your dragon!

I have the same player and mine isn't that slow...no way near...

i think it is because of the IDE bus

An IDE BluRay drive... wut? xD.

@databits

9 жыл бұрын

Gordon Freeman Yes indeed.

@crashbandicoot4everr

9 жыл бұрын

Gordon Freeman Maybe that's why it takes too long to load a disc! If it was a SATA it wouldn't take so much time..

@HerecomestheCalavera

9 жыл бұрын

Gordon Freeman It would be interested to see if that drive would operate in a PC. The only problem is finding a PC that still has an IDE port lol.

@HerecomestheCalavera

9 жыл бұрын

ian totten That is true I forgot about that, I looked around and they apparently did make IDE Blu-Ray Burners for the PC.

@GoldSrc_

9 жыл бұрын

Classic80sStuff A 486 with a BluRay drive would be fun to see.

Most computers at the time could not decompress mp4 at true realtime video speeds. Java was going to save the world with dynamic menus, but Java sucks!!! in speed. Why not write it in BASIC that could be slower... Everything in Java must be compiled into machine code from byte code - oops that takes time but it slices and dices on any machine. The drive I doubt could read at 4x speed; more likely 2x or 3x speed - bluray is 56Mbit max compared to DVD 11.08Mbit, remember HD is 4x the resolution and DVD had pre-format video menus with action event points like a web page on computers. The Java menu was going to have animation and all that fancy scmancy stuff done on a $350 computer in a box - desktops were $1200-1500 at the time. Oops again. It was a transition time between SD and HD so money went to all worlds. Today a player has three wires and two buttons (AC, HDMI, USB, Power, and Eject) 8G USB sticks were $40 at the time and a mostly required option at the time as most disc wanted to store info about the disc - and don't buy the cheap slow one. All that fancy high tech whiz-bang electronic wonder stuffed in one box and you dare complain about speed - well maybe in 18 months the processor will double in what it can handle. (you know Moore's Law) Next year's model dropped discrete 5.1, only one SPDIF format, no S-Video, cheaper remote all to free money to add a better UI speeder experience..

I don't have a blu-ray player in my home for ethical reasons. I don't wish to be sold "High Definition" for the misleading purpose of sneaking in copyright protection, and I refuse to pay for movies that contain advertising. Blu-ray is a large disc of DRM and advertising. We pay for the products, and have very little control over how we can use them. It's more like a long-term rental than anything. Piracy avoids these two issues I have, which is the irony of it all.

@subg9165

6 жыл бұрын

Thats pretty much the reasons that, even though I have 3 computers with fresh Windows installs, I have never purchased a copy of Windows in my life. Microsoft sucks, adverts must die

Sony did that to push you buying a PlayStation. Because PS1s can play CDs, PS2s can play DVDs and PS3s play Blu-ray and DVD. Now what? PS4 did not improve at all.

I sues my xbox one S. almost instant load times.

@databits

6 жыл бұрын

I still use my PS3 for bluray.

my Xbox one can play blue ray disc's

Yeah the cheap Magnavox the sell at Walmart is better.

At least it was cheap…

Even my old E-max dvd player is faster! :)

My Samsung DVD E360 is faster than this.

Betamax is better..

@databits

9 жыл бұрын

Fivos Toutouts Totally...

Yeah, this player is a dog. My friend's aunt upgraded her player, so I took this one just to fool with it... It is paint-drying slow. And it has some problems playing some of my Blu-ray discs, even with the latest firmware update (6.20).