I have an A7R4. It's a forever camera for me. Sure, I'll upgrade bodies down the line when the time comes. The A7R4 is just so good on so many levels, and it has helped me take some amazing shots. I'll never get rid of it.

@artemisfowl9002

2 жыл бұрын

i have to disagree, recently sold mine, firstly, no one needs 61mp unless you’re doing prints/crop in on your shots a lot, the biggest downside is low light image quality, unless you’re shooting with flash this camera falls apart at 6400 ISO, the a7iii beats it glaringly at 12800 ISO, it’s just overkill

@primermag

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have any issues with colors looking green? I have an A7R4 and my raw files in Lightroom take so much work to get skin tones to look right.

@AdventuresinBackpacking

2 жыл бұрын

@@artemisfowl9002 That's just not supported by what I have found. Compared to my A73, I honestly don't see much of a difference in high ISO image quality when the images are compared in similar sizes. I'll always go with more megapixels. I can't believe you had poor luck with yours. Maybe your lens?

@AdventuresinBackpacking

2 жыл бұрын

@@primermag No, I don't. I ETTR and use three lenses primarily: 20mm 1.8, 35 1.8, and the 24 G Master. No issues.

@primermag

2 жыл бұрын

@@AdventuresinBackpacking Awesome, thanks!

Always find the best reviews and tech info from Dan’s channel

A7RIV will still have that glorious 60mp sensor that no one else has and the used market value is unbeatable in 2021.

@Archonsx

2 жыл бұрын

somehow the A1 with what? 50 mp? actually has better sharpness and image quality than the 60 mp of the a7r4

@sosomelodies659

2 жыл бұрын

@@Archonsx well at $6500 it ought to be right? A7rIV still the better value for resolution.

@slurp3194

2 жыл бұрын

@@sosomelodies659 u dont need that much resolution the a7iv os simply a better overall camera while delivering similar image quality

@toddysurcharge771

Жыл бұрын

@@slurp3194 sure you do if you crop a lot in post

Thank you so much Dan for the detailed review! Good luck!

2023 and A7R4 is Still the best camera overall

Love this camera going on a year of owning it! I graduated from Sony’s APS-C line and still own my favorite crop lenses, as this makes the ultimate crop sensor camera. Nothing like shooting in full frame and glorious 60mp with the ability to zoom in like a high powered magnifier in editing. The negatives of having huge files have gotten less straining on our faster and more powerful laptops(!) and cheaper and faster storage options. Definitely wait, if you can, for it to go down to $3K when it did earlier this year, after the A reconfiguration 👌🏼 I currently use the A7C for video and casual shooting. I’ll be in the market for a used SIII to record home videos, after I have a kid to watch grow 🤞🏼 Even further down the line is a used A1 with hardly a shutter count lol

What do you guys think of the A7RIV??? BTW, if you are a student, you can get this camera on sale right now: bhpho.to/3CrxzSn

Dan’s not really seeing the big picture - he’s trying to push square pegs into round holes. Sony’s making each camera fit a market segment, which necessitates compromises to work. Each of Sony’s models is perfect for their target segment with many satisfied customers. So having mixed feelings because the compromises have caught you out is missing the point, because it means you’re looking at the wrong camera. Anyone wanting a no-compromise camera with resolution, speed, and great video should be eyeing the A1 - Sony’s just making you pay for it and if you’re a pro, then it’s still good value. If you can’t afford it, then you need to be comfortable with compromise. Wanting a camera that can meet everyone’s need without the price tag just isn’t rational, meaning the negative tone in parts of this video were unjustified. It’s like reviewing a Ferrari with mixed feelings because it didn’t have the comfy ride of a Rolls Royce or Bugatti Veyron, and feeling mixed about a Rolls Royce, because it didn’t have the speed of a Ferrari or Veyron. Why criticise the Ferrari or Rolls for things they’re not designed for when the Veyron meets your needs?

Great work Dan.

Thanks for this review, it was helpful in deciding to wait to see what the A7IV might come up with.

Your channel just gets better and better! I just switched over to Sony after shooting Nikon for 20 years. The A7R IVA was my choice. I really enjoy it so far. The lens selection is great. The biggest issues I've found with it so far are the increased noise vs my prior Z7 and D850, the slow ass write speeds when writing files to the cards, and that trash screen. Its so weird the areas Sony chooses to skimp on. Anyway though, overall, its been a successful move and I am very happy with the body. I loved this video as I think there are still people considering these slightly older cameras today (like myself). I'm glad creators like you are making videos like this. Keep it up Dan!

@MannyG32968

2 жыл бұрын

I own the A7RIVA and over time it has consistently been the right choice especially for wildlife with my 200-600mm lens. It's a winner!

@timothy790110

18 күн бұрын

shoot underexposed and bring up levels in Lightroom. No noise!

@Vlaakster

18 күн бұрын

@@timothy790110 thanks!

Just picked mine up last Friday, lot to learn, but love it!

I was able to get my A7RIV and some extra batteries for 2,600, and I’m so excited to use this! I hear great things!

Really interesting video - thanks! 😊

I love my 7rm4a and its for me the best camera with best lens collection. The picture quality is just amazing.

Just got mine in the mail & i'm loving it! Yes I ordered one in 2022, Yes its still amazing, Yes its still worth it! 😁 Great Video by the way, Good work!

A thoughtful piece of work, Dan. Thanks. I currently have an A6600 but am considering - for the ergonomics - the A7R4 to use in APS-C mode. I have a Tamron 11-20, Sony 16-55 and 70-350. With an A7RIV, that weighs 4lbs 12 oz, or 2.15 kgs in real money, for a reach of 16-525mm in 35m equivalent. What do you think? Thanks again for the stellar content and unintiidating style.

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! So the A7R4 would definitely give you some extra features, dual card slots, and still plenty of resolution in APSC mode BUT...that's a LOT to pay for a camera that will not give you any better quality unless you use it in full frame mode. I certainly wouldn't buy that unless you find a massive sale or buy it used. Instead I would look at buying full frame capable lenses and maybe jump on the Sony A7IV when it is likely released later this year

@christopherthompson4464

2 жыл бұрын

@@learningcameras Fully agree with your points, Dan. The upside is that I can pick up a second had one for about €2200 here in Europe - and that will allow me to go FF in the future if I so wish.And I absolutely want to use the 70-350 which is fantastic for wildlife and even action - in good light of course. Also, the 16-55 is great. I left Fuji for Sony for those two lenses. Much lighter than the XF16-55 and the Fuji 100-400 is great but sooooo heavy. The A7IV will be great, I'm sure, but I think I would be taking a hit when it comes to the two APS-C lenses. Thanks again for your though-provoking reviews.

@vads4683

2 жыл бұрын

I had a6600 and now a7riva. Crop mode autofocus points are better on a6600 (less gaps), 11 fps vs 10fps. but that's about it. The image quality from a7riv is just amazing and you can customize buttons a lot. I also like, that when I change from horizontal to vertical, then I can program focus area to change to for example from zone to spot to target the right person. Not sure if a6600 had it.

I couldn't agree more with you, I have had the r4 from the start and its amazing and frustrating at the same time. I upgraded from the R2 and still maintain the 35 to 45 megapixel range is the magic zone. The R4 punishes you for any mistakes in technique, when you nail it it beautiful but I would get a Canon R5 or something else in that 40-50 megapixel range if I were starting today. If the A7iv is 33megapixels I am preordering one for wildlife

@fritsscholtenhzn6268

2 жыл бұрын

Waiting for a7rV end of 2022. Hopefully for 102 MP inside. Crop. Mode for wildlife and BIF. Must take time.

You did great work sir 👍

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate that!

Hi Dan! What do you think of the complaints about low-light noise in the a7riv? I've used all the Sony cameras at some point and I rented an a7r4 for a concert with terrible lighting. When I got home with my images, sure there was some added noise compared to my a73 and a7r3 experience but after going through my usual toning and correcting and then sizing it down to 2048p on the long end (the same size I'd save for the other two cameras) it looked remarkably better than any of the other cameras. But maybe I'm missing something. In other words, they all looked like a good quality to me.

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

I really don't think there is enough added noise for me to care. Certainly it isn't really an "improvement" in quality over the lower resolution cameras because of it (one of the reasons I have mixed feelings) but it isn't worse enough for me to care

I love this camera. Like true love and I know that I’m not using it to the it’s full extent but this thing is a tank like a tank tank.

Snagged a brand new one today for $2600. Coming from Sony's APS-C format, I've got several nice lenses that I'd like to have the option to use... This IVa in crop mode still produces great quality images, so that was the main selling point for me. Plus, I'm mostly landscape and portrait shooting, looking forward to getting it!

@alittlebitofjess_

Жыл бұрын

Where from? Everywhere is AUS is still sitting around 4.5 unless you opt for a shipped in model from overseas which I just don’t want to risk 🥲

This is an amazing camera, the files are sooo great and it's saves me all the time with crop-ability.

@primermag

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have any issues with colors looking green? I have an A7R4 and my raw files in Lightroom take so much work to get skin tones to look right.

@SilatShooter

2 жыл бұрын

@@primermag I use DXO for my files and I can't say that I'm having those issues. I have read others with the same issues and then I've read of shooters that love the skin tones out of the camera.

@primermag

2 жыл бұрын

@@SilatShooter Thanks! I'll have to try DXO.

I scored my a7riv for $2300 and I wouldn’t part with it. Those images are breathtaking with all that details when you have some great glass on it like the 135mm GM. It does everything I need a camera to do for weddings and portraits. Even a little action sports it’s still good. I picked up the Sony a9 for my back up and I barely use it. I love the image files on the R4. I really don’t see no difference in compressed or uncompressed when editing. So I shoot compressed and have had great luck with it. I could see me keeping this camera for a long time until it dies.

@vads4683

2 жыл бұрын

The tracking for sports is amazing on a7riv. It even works amazingly with ea5 adapter and old Minolta sports lenses. Keeper rate has picked up. But that 135 GM is something else, sometimes it feels you don't need a 300 or 400mm lens, you can just crop the 135 GM photo :).

@LMActionsports

2 жыл бұрын

@@vads4683 the 135 gm has replaced my 70-200. I don’t even use it but maybe twice since i picked up the 135gm. I just used the 135gm with my a7riv and A9 doing some shots for a client’s dog running towards me and I was surprised on how many keepers I had with the a7riv to the a9. About 75-80% accurate on my a7riv to 90% accurate with my a9. I didn’t think it would be that close. I think the 135gm is the best lens I have ever tried. And I thought the Nikon 200 f2 was a badass lens, the 135gm edges it out

Waiting for the A7R5..Yes Sony had an early start on the Mirrorless Game..but yet the are behind in some things as well..all I ask for if the A7R5 will still be around 60 megapixel that like you said Dan they need to give the option of L, M, S, raw files..I remember my Nikon D500 had that option..why is it so difficult for Sony to have this in the software?..in their cameras..

Awesome long term review. I'm thinking about buying it now, considering that im able to do it at 2000USD new, the "A" model. So... Probably a great thing to do considering that im having a R34 and it's not able to use the wireless Sony shotgun mic fully. (Slowly starting to do some video work, but 99% of what I do is landscape and travel photography)

@17industries42

2 жыл бұрын

Where did you find one for $2000 new?

So I have a7siii for video. I have a PhaseOne150mp for still but I need a great photo only camera for when i go on location and don’t want to bring the phaseone for convenience and safety? Also it’s now $500 off. Recommend?

Has it been 2 years already? Wow, it has taken that long for the competition to catch up and they are still selling the a7Riv and the a9ii. That is crazy

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, the only reason Sony (seems) behind with a couple cameras is that they are 2-3 years old compared to brand new cameras from other manufactures. Any new Sony camera (A1/A7SIII) is way ahead of other options at the moment. Sony got the head start in mirrorless and that bet is still paying off

I got a question Dan. I own the A7R4. I'm really thinking about switching to the A74 now that it's out. Good idea or no. Great vid.

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Hey! So the switch would be justified if you are also a video shooter. Otherwise probably stick with the R4

As an avid wildlife shooter, crop mode on Ar74 is heaven sent!

Hey Dan! Great video as usual. I saw this video back in Sept 2021 and I re-watched it again recently. I noticed in the intro (time 1:19-1:30) is slow motion video that looks like 60P. Is that video HD 60P or 4K30P? It looks like 4K60P. Nice work.

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! So yes, the slow motion would be 1080p and I agree, it looks better than I expected. Some of that is due to the fact that 4k full frame is not oversampled so technically it's not the "sharpest" looking 4k compared with cameras like the A7IV that do oversample

@FlingerFilms

2 жыл бұрын

@@learningcameras So at this point, would you say that the A7IV is a better option for your business in comparison to the A7RIV?

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

@@FlingerFilms The A7IV is actually better if you shoot video like I do at all

@FlingerFilms

2 жыл бұрын

@@learningcameras Thanks. I,be seen sample footage and features. I recently started shooting with the FX3 and have been testing to see how closely the A7rIV matched the FX3. Since we do shoot stills the A7rIV still something we use. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Amazing - Magnifique - Kitoko

I own this camera plus a Fuji XT-3. I've owned all brands at some point. Nikon, Sony, Fuji, Minolta, Pentax... and more in DSLRs. I used to be proficient in film 35mm and Medium Format. Developed my own film and prints. Former pro wedding and portrait photographer. Honestly, the only thing I hate about this camera is the LCD screen. It's annoying in how it pulls out and moves. Color extremely accurate. Res off the charts. Focusing, controls, no complaints. I don't care for the menu system of all Sony cameras. But once you get used to it, not a big deal. I don't use it for video. I can shoot in the harsh Nevada midday sun and even in auto mode I don't get blown highlights. Shadows are perfect. I will never go back to Nikon or Cannon. The prices on their pro DSLRs are an insult. Unless you are concerned on "brand", forget them. Sony knows what they are doing and I know many pro wedding photographers who have fully turned over to the Sony system.

@EIyssium

2 жыл бұрын

I love it, ISO is shit on it, though

@reckerproduction9468

2 жыл бұрын

@@EIyssium , that's why You need to learn how to light things

@reckerproduction9468

2 жыл бұрын

@@EIyssium , that's why You need to learn how to light things

At this level of technology why hasn’t Sony fixed their software latency issues?? I feel like so many features could be fixed through updates

I had the A7R then sold it, now I'm back with the A7R2. I would like to make the jump to A7R IV be next summer.

I absolutely love this camera - and my clients do too. I can make so many wider food photography shots into cropped macro feeling shots with its ridiculously awesome resolution - I’m talking single grains of rice quality on sushi shoots. Sure there’s better AF now. And it’s my B camera for video if I’m shooting interviews when my a7siii is my A video cam. But for a serious powerhouse for photography you definitely will get more amazing shots.

Very good video, very informative 😊 I have a question for you. I don't understand why there is only a 2mpx improvement of 26.1mpx apsc crop mode for the A7m4 compared with the Sony A6400 with a 24.1mpx sensor? I would have thought that if you have 61mpx full frame that this would be able to render 40mpx apsc mode?

@vads4683

2 жыл бұрын

it's 1.5 crop on apsc lenses, but full frame sensor area is actually 2,3x larger than apsc. a7riv 35,8*23,8=852,04 and 23,5*15,6=366,6. That also must mean the apsc lenses dont use the sensor as effectively as full frame, because lenses are not 2.3x crop. Maybe someone else can comment more about it.

@vads4683

2 жыл бұрын

I figured out myself I think. If you calculate 366 from 852, then you get 43%. For marketing purposes it was then probably rounded up and classified as 1,5x crop or 50%. Magic of percentages, but actually the full frame sensor is 2,3x larger 852/366. So the photos you see from full frame sensor with similar lens is actually 2,3x times bigger and low light performance should be too. 1 stop advantage low light advantage is also 2x advantage (2,3x to be correct) :).

@voglerthevloger5870

2 жыл бұрын

@@vads4683 Thanks for looking into this. I still don't understand it, though. Regardless, it is the only full-frame camera that I am willing to upgrade to, and bring my apsc lenses along. I'll get an 8.3% increase in pixel power (not a huge difference) , while all other full-frame cameras in the Sony range will decrease my pixel power when using aspc mode (compared to the Sony A6400). I am into wildlife photography and the more megapixels I can get for distance shots the better.

@vads4683

2 жыл бұрын

@@voglerthevloger5870 yes you can get more reach with apsc mode. But as the sensor is 2x times smaller it needs more magnification and a full frame lens on full frame sensor gives better quality i think. I had a6400, a6600 and now zve10 for fun. Their sensor photo quality is not the same as full frame a7r cameras. A7r cameras also don't have aa low pass filter and images are sharper and clearer. But you can compare for yourself. There must be a reason why some buy very expensive full frame 600mm f4 lenses ;). And full frame lenses generally are better quality too additionally to the sensor size. But as a hobby photographer you can use 100 to 400 on apsc and it will be 150 to 600mm for you. Zoom lenses also tend to focus breath more when focusing closer so that lens is not 100 400 but more like 350 for close objects.

The pictures are just the best from this camera. If I ever want the BEST pictures, I grab this camera

how do I tell the difference between the a7riv vs the a7rivA? (I bought one but I am not sure its the A)

Always wanted to get one of the A7R photos for awesome photography potentially! Love hearing your insight! 💯✔️🔥

The price hasn't decreased in the UK..I recently bought a canon 90d but I'm now got my eyes on this

Hi Dan, great video. Need your help. I’m tired of doing research. I’m am A7RII user since 2015. I shoot mainly landscapes but occasionally shoot portraits. I also take several trips a year to shoot wildlife. I have no issue with image quality that comes out of the A7RII, assuming I nailed the focus. My biggest gripes are the buffer and focusing ability. Battery life sucks too but I have learned to live with that. My longest lens is a 100-400 GM with a 1.4 TC which is useless on this camera unless doing manual focus. Please recommend a camera. A7R3 or A7R4? I often thought about getting a crop sensor Sony but concerned about low light when shooting wildlife in the am or pm. Thanks!

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!! So there isn't a big quality improvement with the newer cameras unfortunately but there will be improvements to AF, ergonomics, and battery life. The A7RIII would probably be where I would go especially since it's on an awesome sale: bhpho.to/3EfTtZZ It has some big AF improvements over the A7RII and while not as many as the A7RIV, it is still plenty good enough for landscapes, portraits, and all but the most intense wildlife. Plus you will definitely see massive increases in battery life and ergonomics. Technically the A7RIV is better but I don't think you will really see the difference enough to justify the extra $1000+

@vettepwr23

2 жыл бұрын

@@learningcameras Thank you. I ended up ordering the A7RIII from B&H.

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

@@vettepwr23 awesome! Hope you have fun with that!!!

@catho6785

2 жыл бұрын

@@learningcameras thank you for the response - that helps me too! I have an a7r2 which I use for all types of photography, but have been doing more sports recently, and the focus speed/ability makes some sports really hard. I’d LOVE an a9ii (or even an a9), but as an amateur these are out of my budget. I hadn’t considered that the a7r3 would be a big jump in quality (without the next step up in price for the a7r4 - if you aren’t getting exponentially better tech)

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

@@catho6785 Yep! Also, if you shoot any video at all, definitely look at the Sony A7IV too

if i am only interested in photos because i already have a fuji XT4 (insane videos btw) is the A7rIV good for me?

@learningcameras

5 ай бұрын

Thanks! Absolutely, the A7RIV is solid for photos. The main advantages of the newest camera is some ergonomic tweaks, autofocus tweaks, and massive video improvements but for photo quality, the A7RIV is essentially the same

2 years a go this was a dream camera, now its a great happy lower price amazing photo camera.

Having owned the a7rIV for a year now, I have had some issues. For the portraits part..it has suffered from a lot of moire in clothes on subjects. Mostly men in jackets. Not sure why. It CAN be a pain in the ass on assignments, if you are not able to edit the flaws in post. Besides that, as a landscape camera I see no rivals to this. Paired to the 16 - 35 2.8 GM it is truly awesome.

@vads4683

2 жыл бұрын

Against moire you must choose a vintage lense, that's not so sharp ;). Some old Minolta 85.

@fotografmorteneriksen

2 жыл бұрын

@@vads4683 Or take more pictures, you get more good that way than bad :)

Hello. Now in 2023 what would you choose between Sony a7IV and Sony a7RIV? Both for photo and video.

@learningcameras

9 ай бұрын

If you are shooting video, definitely go for the A7IV. While the sensor in the A7RIV is great and it does have a few upgrades, the differences in video on the A7IV are MASSIVE and will make a much bigger difference in quality and features

Does anyone know how to disable/turn off the 'writing-to-memory card' animation in the viewfinder?

I am thinking to purchase the 7R IVA. Is it good and fast enough to shoot pictures of my little son when he is playing around or doing some sports action? Would the R5 be the better choice? Thanks a lot for any hint…

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely the A7RIVa is good enough for that and a great camera. But if the price is $3500, I think the R5 is a better camera in a few areas and barely more expensive. At that point it comes down to personal preference and lenses

@BrasilOO7

2 жыл бұрын

@@learningcameras Thank you very much Dan for your reply. Here in Germany the RIV is selling for 3.799 € less 300 € trade-in-bonus whereas the Canon cost 4.499 €, so I think I will opt for the RIV.

@artemisfowl9002

2 жыл бұрын

get the a7iii, the a7riv is overkill

Hi Dan, a74 just got released. If I'm just an images taker, shall I buy the A74 or A7R4? If I prefer A7R4, shall I still buy the old A7R4 or the new A7R4a? Thanks,

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

If you are using it for video at all, the A7IV is a massive improvement. If you are ONLY shooting photos, either one is great with the RIV having a bit better screen/viewfinder and higher resolution if you want that but you probably can't go wrong either way

Hey Dan, great vid! New subscriber here. I am switching from Cannon to Sony, and now deciding between A7IV & A7RIVA....I do plan using it for video, I would go with A7 IV, but with EDU discount I can score RIVA for $2600....Now I can't decide which route to go...saving almost $1k on RIVA, or buying A7 IV at MSRP.

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate that! So the A7RIVa is technically better than the A7IV in a few areas (screen, viewfinder, resolution...) but the video side of the A7IV has more noticeable improvements over the A7RIVa that make a much bigger difference so if you are using it for video ...either hybrid or video exclusively, I'd be more likely to get the A7IV

Now, i have a dilemma, should I swap my leica q2 Monochrom for the sony a7r iv a? Or keep the q2 Monochrom? Which is the better camera? Im tempted but I feel like im going down a level in terms of luxury and class, it's almost like being in a special club, but i know the sony is fantastic and can do so much more. Also many pros seem to be using the sony a7r iv a for their main work. 🤔, but would i get ripped for getting rid of the leica?

@ldmndz4652

2 жыл бұрын

Chris Hewson ..not to sound disrespectful..but in your words "but I feel like im going down a level in terms of luxury and class, its almost like being in a special club." you kinda answered your own question already..dont get me wrong Leicas are awesome and their reputation is deserving of that no question..but is that all you see in Leica when you purchased yours?..to have that clout..and people see you have a Leica?..I know some fellow photographers who just buy a Leica just for that and im not saying thats what your reasoning was when you purchased yours and by all means people spend their funds on whatever they want im certainly not telling what to purchase with your funds..We all know the brands have all gotten good especially now..the so called competition helps everyone and at this point the cameras are all good its just the persons choice on what brand to get...Sony's, Fuji's and other brands certainly beats Leica in some performance aspect which you have mentioned that Sony is fantastic and can do so much more..you should keep your Leica..me personally im waiting for the Sony A7R5..lol I didn't upgrade from my A7R3 yet..

I've just purchased a brand new A7r IV for £1600, I'm not a professional but I wanted it to do landscapes. My last DSLR (a Nikon D700) and I sold that back in 2013 (originally purchased it for £1700) so I consider that a great deal, plus I'm just looking to getting back into photography and consider this camera for me to be more than enough :) (at that price especially).

@Hagenruck

Жыл бұрын

Where did you get the A7r IV for that price? I would get it immediately.

Hi Dan would you prefer buying 3 months old A7R4A ( 3000 shutter count )for 1900 USD or Brand new A74 for 2500 USD ? Mainly Photography with occasional Video work .

@learningcameras

Жыл бұрын

If you shoot video at all, get the A74. Still tons of resolution and it's massively better for video with a few photo upgrades as well like the AF system. If you only shot stills, I'd get the A7R4 which does have some hardware upgrades (better screen/viewfinder) in addition to the resolution bump. Although keep in mind more pixels doesn't mean better quality unless you actually need the resolution for large prints or pixel editing

@neethuandthomasphotography

Жыл бұрын

@@learningcameras thank you and have you experienced any shutter issue with A74 ?

@learningcameras

Жыл бұрын

@@neethuandthomasphotography Nope, shutter on all my Sony cameras have never. had issues

I chose the A7R4 over the A7IV because of the sensor mega pixel and I dont don't really do any video shoot.

Is getting this camera for $1000 a good deal? I’m a beginner….

Dan I love your work and all of it, but that curley hair man is crazyyyyy.

Just ordered one of these with Sony's mail in rebate for $3380 AUD ($2300 US dollars) while it's being cleared out of stock to make room for the A7R5. For just a touch over half the cost of the Canon R5 im stoked!

I picked up a used one for $1100, but it has 145.000 exposures. fingers crossed! I love the customizability it has, you can really make it "personal"

Except the a 7 iv turned out to not be as good as we expected it to be. Would love to hear your thoughts on it now with this new info? I am torn between a 7 iv and picking up the r iv a

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure why you think that. I actually sold my A7RIV to buy the A7IV lol. I mean, I wish it had full frame 4k60 but it's WAY better than the RIV for video. Other than the screen and viewfinder being a bit low in resolution, the A7IV is great

I feel like I'm playing hopscotch right now. Still debating on which sony camera to get to delve into the Sony ecosystem but everytime I think I've made up my mind about which camera body I'm gonna settle on I hear rumors of a new one around the corner so I just wait.

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha...rumors are definitely heating up!

This review is a bit weird. The complaints are price (still cheaper than the competition), file size (yeah, it is a 61 MP sensor. Why would you buy it if you want to shoot less???) and that they updated the screen (see the point on price). What would you want to recommend it? Turns out one thing. Cheaper. But still the A7RIV is cheaper than the R5. Sorry but this is hard to understand.

Dude,I just need a camera to shoot products and food with in a studio environment, sturdy and dependable. This good?

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, absolutely is great although if it's not on sale, the Canon R5 is slightly better and almost the same price: bhpho.to/3LFxfVd

If I had to guess, the A7rV will have the same sensor but the processor, menu and card slot improvements of the A1… this will mean faster operation, better image processing, lossless compressed raw and ability to use the faster cards …it will also probably mean better video specs…

@bwest6275

Жыл бұрын

Upcoming A7RV Specs: Same 61MP sensor because all the power goes to the new processor. TOTALLY New Autofocus system with AI deep learning 8k 24p (cropped) 4k60p 4k24p (full read out) S cinetone is available 8 stop IBIS (unclear yet if “native” or with “gyro data”) Body looks like a mix between the Sony A7sIII and Sony A7IV.

@silvestrocrino3256

Жыл бұрын

@@bwest6275 …yep…nailed it one year ago.. :)

Stupid question alert: I currently have this camera and had a question on it, or maybe this goes for any mirrorless? but is there a way for the camera to adjust the exposure on where you focus instead of the entire frame like a cell phone? Example; Dark subject with very bright background, if I select my focus area on the dark part I want it to auto adjust exposer to that even if the background is blown out and vice versa. Like I said, very easy on a cell phone. Lol.

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

So not exactly but you can set it to a large spot which puts a spot in the center of the frame so it will expose for whatever is in the center of the frame. This works well assuming you keep the subject in the middle of the frame

The rIV is a Studio Camera with an occasional video tossed in for fun. Excellent all around and solid high megapixel camera. If you are invested in Sony why bother with others. If you jump ship when another manufacturer comes on line with a tiny bit better in some areas then you are just a gear head. When the A7rV comes out with over 100mega pixels I'll be on board. I do have besides the rIV the new A1 and it pretty much covers everything I need and then some except it is only 50 megapixel. Rrrrrrrrr.

@bwest6275

Жыл бұрын

A7RV Specs: Same 61MP sensor because all the power goes to the new processor. TOTALLY New Autofocus system with AI deep learning 8k 24p (cropped) 4k60p 4k24p (full read out) S cinetone is available 8 stop IBIS (unclear yet if “native” or with “gyro data”) Body looks like a mix between the Sony A7sIII and Sony A7IV.

I mean I gotta respect this camera because to this day there's still only 2 other high megapixels cameras that can outdo it. And they cost more. And to this day the image quality is still arguably the best detail in the game. It was even the best video camera Sony made until they dropped their 10 bit cameras because it didn't have all the shortcomings of the A7iii. If you can catch it when they run it on sale for $2500 or so it's still the best thing blowing and going. For photography it's still my favorite camera. Until I can get my hands on an A1.

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, if it wasn't for Sony changing the version to the A7RIVa and it still being at the previous sale price, I'd be all over the A7RIV! It's only because they did that and jacked the price back to $3500 that I tell most people to hold off

@Yunhaisongtao

2 жыл бұрын

Which two can out do this?

@jmackultra

2 жыл бұрын

@@learningcameras facts for the that sub 3K price point it's much easier to recommend.

@jmackultra

2 жыл бұрын

@@Yunhaisongtao Canon R5 and the Sony A1

@Yunhaisongtao

2 жыл бұрын

@@jmackultra now R3 even better it seems like

The Shutter sound in the a7r4A is slightly dimmer definitely not the original shutter from a7r4. Apart from the screen and shutter, there isn’t much difference.

I love mine. Bring on the 102 a7rv. It’s my problem everyone else’s computers suck and are cheap when it comes to buying drives

I was so close to getting the A7rIV, I ended up getting the A7iv just recently, upgrading from an A7s Mk I… everything is a huge leap.

@TheShockwave44

2 жыл бұрын

Except the megapixels and 10fps.

@Athiril

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheShockwave44 A7iv has 10fps. Which I don't need or use. Files are already large enough and more than enough detail.

Landscape photographers need as much resolution as possible. I’d buy a 102MB FF camera, because when I’m hiking up mountains I’d be able to lighten my load with smaller and fewer lenses knowing that I can crop in half and still have 50MBs to play with. For special locations, I’d certainly shoot for 102MB for large fine art prints.

Vast majority of people I believe are locked into one camera brand because of all the investments in lenses flash etc before considering an ultra high end camera. So I wonder how many can easily jump from A7R4 to R5 or vice versa. Since every brand now has a sizable lineup of mirrorless camera bodies and lenses there is almost no reason to switch brands just because of some gimmicks on a body. So comparing across brands is now more like a fun hobby (which I like) than of any practical use. I have more than 10k invested in SONY bodies and lenses and I am not going to switch even if R5 is cheaper than A7R4.

Great video Dan!!! I am a landscape and wildlife photographer! I need speed for birds in flight, I need high resolution for landscapes! I have the a9 for speed, and the a7r3 for the resolution! I did not get the a7m4 because it did not have a flip out screen for low portrait landscapes! The a1 has speed and the right amount of megapixels, but no flip out screen! The only camera that fits what I am looking for is the Canon r5!!! But I don't want to leave Sony. Maybe there will be a a9iii, or a a1ii that will fit the need! Lol If I could fit my Sony 200-600mm lens on the r5, I would get that body!!!

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I definitely think the A7IV will give you what you want but will probably be limited to around 30mp. I don't think there will be a new a9III...I just don't see how Sony can make the A9 better without basically turning into the A1 haha

@catho6785

2 жыл бұрын

How do you find the A7RIII for autofocus speed for birds? I have an A7RII, which I’ve been using for all types of photography - including sports. I’d love an a9ii for all the great facial tracking features, but it’s completely out of my price range!

I have the Canon R5. But have a hard time getting RF lenses from 3rd party because Canon put a stop to their production.

I thought the update to the A7RIV LCD is 2.36million dots which is a better resolutions than the R5’s 2.1million. Because to me, the 2.36 million LCD is a bit selling point.

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly the updated resolution didn't make that big of a difference in overall quality

@MarkBennettCameraCrisis

2 жыл бұрын

@@learningcameras ok - good to know. I am always disappointed with LCD screens on my Sony’s. Guess I just have to live with the fact they just aren’t great. I preordered the A7iv despite the lowly 1 million dot lcd 🤣

i had heard sony was discontinuing the a7r line in general.

After the leaks of the a7iv as a photographer, I’m putting my eyes on a7r iiia or even a7r iv a. Seems a7iv got many video updates leaving us photographer on the limbo. Will wait thes 48!hr until official announcement but…. As a photographer we got , what? 33 mpx?

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

So you will definitely get a bit more than that thankfully but yeah... Definitely more info soon!

Hi Dan, i am doing 30% video (only shoot on standard PP and not doing any color grading) and 70% photography - between the A7 IV and A7R IVA which one is better in term of image quality and overall use? In term of Autofocus performance for both still and video, how much better the new A7 IV with Bionz XR is when comparing to A7R IVA (older Bionz X)? The A7 IV and A7R IVA almost the same price here.

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Hey! I'd probably go with the A7IV which is 90% as good as the RIV for photography but the A7RIV is not even close to as good as the A7IV for video. AF performance on the A7IV is technically better but the R4 is already good enough that most people wouldn't care. Technically the R4 has a better screen and viewfinder as well but honestly I can barely tell the difference in normal use. Hope that helps!

@marcuschay8962

2 жыл бұрын

@@learningcameras Thanks for your reply. The A7IV oversampled 7k to 4k video, can we really see the 'extra sharpness' compare to A7iii (6k oversampled to 4k) in a say 50" TV, any idea? On scale 1 to 10 (10 is the best) - how well the A7R IV video's eye autofocus compare to new A7IV's?

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcuschay8962 Not really with moving subjects and motion blur but the big difference is having 10bit video which makes things look way better when it comes to colors. The RIV video AF is very similar to the A7IV but video quality on the A7IV is massively better

@marcuschay8962

2 жыл бұрын

@@learningcameras Thanks for your reply. Video 10 bit vs 8 bit - for non color grading user can we tell the different even watch in big screen?

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcuschay8962 yes. Highlights especially will look better with 10bit

i just got the sony a7riva and the problem i have is that i cannot open raw files on my iMac which is up to date. running the Monterey OS . It's not a new camera so it should support the raw files. What is the problem ?

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Are you running the latest Adobe Creative Cloud? What are you opening your RAW files with? Only certain software can open RAW files

@navahou

2 жыл бұрын

@@learningcameras Yes, my Adobe CC is up to date. I was storing my photos on my iMac but apple doesn't support sony RAW so from now on i'm going to use Lightroom as I should from the beginning :] Thanks for reply.

Still happily shooting an A7R3 and an A7R4. But, I'm not a pro.

THE A7RV SHOULD KEEP THE SAME 61MP SENSOR, BETTER ISO PERFORMANCE, 16 BIT RAW FILES IN AN ATTEMPT TO COMPETE WITH MEDIUM FORMAT, AUTO FOCUS POINTS FOR THE ENTIRE SCREEN, TOUCHSCREEN IN AND OUT OF THE MENU AND I'M GOOD FOR 10 YEARS AFTER PURCHASE

you touched on lenses but didn't quite express the importance of them. There are not a lot of lenses that can fully utilize the power of 61mp. I'd even go as far as saying if you plan to use zoom lenses then you're better off with an A7IV. The 61mp is so demanding, but slap on a lens like the 35mm 1.4GM and we see how truly glorious the a7r4 is. You should also add the insane amount of lowlight headroom. At 61mp you tend to see a bit of noise, and people misinterpret this and instantly say "bad at low light compared to the a73" but let me tell you. Shoot a 61mp RAW and export at down to 24mp or 12mp to compare to the a73/a7s3 and you'll have a better image that what both those camera's cant even think about getting at low light.

What about the A1?

Hey Dan I purchased your help guide and i tried loading your settings on my RIVA and it says cant load this settings. Any help?

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Hey! So actually I just found out the new A version requires a separate firmware version so it can't use the same file. Unfortunately I have the A7RIV and not the A7RIVa. All the rest of the help guide is exactly the same but the settings files won't work between the A7RIV and RIVa. Ideally Sony needs to fix this because if you have 1 new version and 1 old version of the A7RIV, you can't sync! Ruins the entire purpose of having this feature. If you need me to refund it let me know but until Sony fixes this, there is nothing I can do unless I were to buy both versions of the camera!

@udoh84

2 жыл бұрын

@@learningcameras so I’m guessing it would be the same if I were to use settings from A7IV as well. I guess you can refund it. Thanks 🙏

Why is the 2,4 mp screen on a7R4A worse the the 2.1 mp on Canon and Nikon? I am sure that you Are right, I am only curious.

@youknowwho9247

2 жыл бұрын

The back screen on the Sony is 1.4 million dots, the ones on the Canons and Nikons is 2.1 million dots. The Sony's screen is also way less touch enabled and somewhat laggy compared to the rivals. It's annoying to be honest, given that Sony makes TVs and Smartphones with great screens...

@TVe200

2 жыл бұрын

@@youknowwho9247 The a7R3A and a7R4A have a new 2.4 mp screen. All other Sony cameras have 1.4 or 0.9 screen.

@youknowwho9247

2 жыл бұрын

@@TVe200 That's simply incorrect. You can look up the spec sheet on the Sony website any time.

@TVe200

2 жыл бұрын

@@youknowwho9247 You obviously insist to look at specs for a7R4 and not a7R4A. The only differens between them is the screen. 1,44 vs 2,36 mp screen.

@youknowwho9247

2 жыл бұрын

@@TVe200 Right, I missed the letter 'a'. My mistake. The update obviosly puts them on par with the competition in terms of resolution, but it still leaves the comparative lack of touchscreen features.

Sony a7riii actually is ranked very slightly higher at dxomark than the a7riv

Isn’t the lcd resolution 2.36 and the same as the canon R5 and Nikon Z7?

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Resolution only tells half the story. There are plenty of 4k tvs that look like crap and 4k tvs that look stunning. The quality of the display often has nothing to do with the resolution

@rubelukeable

2 жыл бұрын

@@learningcameras thanks for the quick response. I have the A74 on preorder, but was considering getting the A7R3A with the screen update. Not sure why Sony went with the crappy low resolution screen on the A74. Other than that love other updates on the A74

Have you had a problem with overheating with ghe a7riv

@learningcameras

Жыл бұрын

If you run the A7RIV in the direct sunlight, you might overheat it. When it's not in direct sunlight, I get really good run times...usually well over an hour with no issue

Oof, some Nikon shade 😂 ….still waiting for my “mirrorless D850” to replace my D850 but I do have an A7RIV so in the meantime I’m good.

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha... Just the Z7II which I think is below what the A7RIV and R5 offer. The Z6II I'm a much bigger fan of

Regarding the camera's LCD screen: - Sony A7R IVA: 3.0 inch w/ 2,359,296 pixels - Canon R5: 3.2 inch w/ 2,100,000 pixels - Nikon Z7 II: 3.2 inch w/ 2,100,000 pixels The Sony LCD is technically sharper (higher DPI), but obviously the Canon and Nikon screens are slightly larger.

@learningcameras

Жыл бұрын

But when it comes to screens, DPI is basically a meaningless spec unless all other things are equal...kind of like MP. My phone says it's 100MP but the sensor sucks compared to a 12MP A7SIII. The quality of the panel has less to do with DPI unfortunately. You can buy a 4k TV for $300 and $3000...same resolution but one looks massively better. Right now every Sony display lacks quality regardless of the DPI. The A7IV lacks in quality and DPI

@pzark3638

Жыл бұрын

@@learningcameras I get what you're saying, but that's very vague. What do you mean it lacks in quality: does it have poor contrast, color accuracy, etc.? I realize this video is also well over a year old, so if you can't remember, no worries.

@dswatson83

Жыл бұрын

@@pzark3638 It's hard to say exactly what it's lacking since the only screen spec they list is DPI but basically, colors look washed out, blacks are not very deep, and everything shifts a bit towards green compared to better screens on most Canon, Panasonic, and Nikon cameras (although Nikon is pretty green too)

My wishes for next generation A7RV (or A9R) are a new 75(+) megapixels sensor, a 9.5+ megapixels EVF with 1.2x magnification, dials for shutter times and ISO and improved IBIS. No video options or the ability to turn ALL video functions OFF !!!

@dreamsofhallerbos5261

2 жыл бұрын

Sony will announce the A7r V 102mp in July 2022. Canon will announce the R5x/R5s 120/125mp a month later.

@tumanforlife5977

Жыл бұрын

@@dreamsofhallerbos5261 hello from the future (august 2022), the Sony A7R V is not yet announced ☝️

Display on a7riva is 2.36 million dots. Z7 ii and r5 are 2.1 million dots. How can the screen be worse?

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Because resolution is not indicative of quality. You can pick up any $400 50" 4k TV which technically has a higher pixel count per inch than most other higher priced TVs but it will still look like crap compared to them because the actual quality of the panel, brightness, contrast ratio, led colors, materials...end up impacting the quality more than the pixel amounts

@vads4683

2 жыл бұрын

@@learningcameras thats true, but maybe should have mentioned that then. Is the screen darker? Of course some panels are better not just because of resolution. But interesting, because sony tvs are usually better than competition. I have a full hd sony tv, that still looks better than many 4K ones.

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

@@vads4683 That's why this is kind of disappointing. I have Sony's Xperia cell phone and the screen on that is freaking stunning 10bit hdr...if they put that it a camera it would be incredible! I'm not sure why a company that makes some of the best screens on the planet puts the worst looking screen in their camera. But honestly, it's bad enough that I'm usually embarrassed to show my back of camera shots to a client compared to some other cameras. Most other screens are also almost 10% larger at 3.2" instead of the 3" on the Sony

@vads4683

2 жыл бұрын

@@learningcameras maybe its possible to compare the screens of cameras too? Resolution, size, nits, hdr etc? Also touch screen functions. Just an idea. But 10% display size difference doesnt matter much for me and just "worse" left me wondering. Greetings from Estonia! :)

13:29 'a slightly lower resolution'... 33 vs 61 Mpx

Switching to Sony from Canon once the A7iv comes out.

@learningcameras

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, can't wait

1 year later and it's still at that ~3500 price point, unless you go renewed. :(

Get a used one, maybe?

still worth in 2023?

@learningcameras

8 ай бұрын

If you're only shooting photos, yes. But if you shoot video at all, the A7IV or the A7RV would be a way better choice

120Mb 😂 a shot boy I might just add a few more HDDs to my computer

Brands stay tricking ppl in believing the image quality is worth the upgrades. In a couple of years they will make you believe this camera isn’t as sharp 😂

I can never understand reviews like this its like he want you to be Dr Who and buy what might happen and not what is available at the time. If a camera is " The best in the World" How does it become worthles two years later.

Sir I want to work with you plzzz